These National Parks No Longer Exist.

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  • Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
  • We're used to thinking of National Parks as ever-present. At least since they first showed up in American history. Yellowstone was created way back in 1872, after all. It's over 150 years old. But, I'm here to tell you about the 5 National Parks in American history that no longer exist. Some are still part of the National Park System, but have just changed designations, while others have moved out of the NPS altogether. I think we can learn a lot about what it means to be a National Park by taking a look at these unfortunate 5, but we can also use them to evaluate our own collective relationship with National Parks over time. Enjoy!
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  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 5 месяцев назад +9

    I visited Fort McHenry back in 2010 and a memory I have was we visited Fort McHenry on the way back to Jersey City from a boy scout jamboree in Virginia that year and when we made to Fort McHenry, it was right in time for a flag ceremony, and I had the opportunity to hold the folded flag and walk to give it to a ranger. Doing that at the location where the national anthem honoring the flag was written...it was an experience. Something neat about Fort McHenry besides the anthem is that it has become national tradition that when a new flag is designed it first flies over Fort McHenry. The first official 49 and 50-star American flags were flown over the fort and are still located on the premises!
    For former National Monuments, there's Shoshone Cavern in Wyoming. Shoshone Cavern National Monument was proclaimed by Taft in September 1909, and the NPS administered it from 1916 until 1954. Why was it delisted? Because the city of Cody advocated to return it to local administration because they contended that the site could be better run if it were not in federal hands. However, after renaming it to the Spirit Mountain Cave, they were unsuccessful in luring tourists and so the city council allowed for the cavern and the site to be returned to federal ownership in September 1977. After that, the location was incorporated into surrounding federal lands and is currently administered by the Bureau of Land Management.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  5 месяцев назад

      I read about the new flag tradition at Fort McHenry. It's only fitting! Glad you could have that experience there as well, sounds like it was really powerful. Thanks for sharing!

  • @rahrens99
    @rahrens99 6 месяцев назад +64

    With how many get it wrong, I'm proud of your Mackinac pronunciation

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +9

      I've gotten so many pronunciations wrong lol, glad to get this one right!

    • @brandonjones1614
      @brandonjones1614 6 месяцев назад

      You're right... most get it wrong... 😶

    • @JayYoung-ro3vu
      @JayYoung-ro3vu 6 месяцев назад

      Same here, from "that state" down south.

    • @graffic13
      @graffic13 6 месяцев назад

      Well if you're gonna talk about the best parks in the nation you probably should talk about NW ohio's parks mainly oak openings wildwood maumee Bay Peirson ... and Magee marsh.
      And if you figure out why OakOpenings is the rarest park. I'll be impressed
      Your hints are
      1 %
      Savanna

    • @chaos0852
      @chaos0852 6 месяцев назад +4

      Confusing to some is the town of Mackinaw is spelled with the “w”, so when they see Mackinac they default to saying nack instead of naw

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 5 месяцев назад +7

    As one of the comments said in the beginning, the former Father Millet Cross National Monument is definitely odd for how small it was. It honors the wooden cross erected by Pierre Millet at the New French Fort Denonville in 1688. During the preceding winter, disease and starvation overwhelmed the fort's garrison of a hundred men and only twelve of them were saved by a rescue party. Father Millet, a Jesuit missionary, was with this rescue party. On Good Friday, he dedicated a cross to invoke mercy on the plague-stricken men. In September 1925, Coolidge set aside an 18-foot square section of land from the Fort Niagara Military Reservation for a new 18-foot bronze cross and National Monument. In 1945, Fort Niagara was declared surplus by the US Army and plans were laid to convert the site to a state park. In September 1949, Congress abolished the national monument.
    Another former National Monument is Holy Cross in Colorado. In May 1929, Herbert Hoover designated the area surrounding the mountain as Holy Cross National Monument under US Forest Service administration. The monument was transferred to the National Park Service in 1933. The mountain's remote location made visitor visits difficult, and so in August 1950, Harry Truman signed an act abolishing the national monument and returning the area to White River National Forest. The former national monument is now a part of the Holy Cross Wilderness.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  5 месяцев назад

      The fact that there are 2 abolished NPS units revolving around a "cross" is fascinating. Great stories though, thanks for sharing!

  • @Wilderness-Will
    @Wilderness-Will 6 месяцев назад +27

    This is a great video topic! I'd be interested about other NPS sites that have changed hands as well-- one I live a few minutes away from is Papago Park, which was briefly a Nat'l Monument in the 20th century but was sold to the state in 1930 because the Governor wanted to use the land for economic development to offset the effects of the Depression-- I think there was briefly a fish hatchery here; it later hosted a German PoW camp during WWII, and now there's a city park that protects the geologically significant buttes, as well as a zoo and botanical garden.

  • @Chichi-sl2mq
    @Chichi-sl2mq 6 месяцев назад +5

    Having a video with AtlasPro would be cool. Like a "How National Parks are Islands or something.
    Anyaway, this was a very good video. Thank you for sharing

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +2

      Big fan of his channel - he does great work! Appreciate the suggestion an thanks for watching!

  • @Steveofthejungle8
    @Steveofthejungle8 6 месяцев назад +5

    I’ve spent a fair amount of time at Chickasaw NRA. It’s a really unique little place in Southern Oklahoma. The water is clear and blue and great to swim in on a hot day. Plus there’s a bison herd, and there’s lots of Armadillos. If you’re driving on 35 through Oklahoma south of OKC, it’s worth a stop to check it out

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +4

      To be honest, I wasn't that familiar with it before researching this episode. But, now I'm fascinated by the history of this little park! Gotta make a visit one day!

    • @bonniewills2814
      @bonniewills2814 6 месяцев назад +2

      I really appreciate how Platt is still given a distinctive designation within Chichasaw - we were able to tour the park during the National Park Service's 100th anniversary and really enjoyed the demonstrations of how the WPA workers lived while creating the park. Drive up the hill and see the town and park from above - one of our favorite parts of the park!

    • @InsertHandleHere968
      @InsertHandleHere968 18 дней назад

      @@NationalParkDiaries if you do, holler at me! My family has been camping and vacationing there for 5 generations. I know a great deal of history and all the special spots
      Edit to add: the park was hit by a twister a few weeks ago and historic downtown Sulphur was destroyed. They aren’t ready for visitors yet but they could probably benefit from some promotion when they recover a bit

  • @Automaster23
    @Automaster23 6 месяцев назад +1

    THANK YOU! For putting in the effort to learn how to pronounce Mackinac correctly. I was watching a popular history RUclips channel the other day that, of course, mispronounced the name. Fun fact Michigan has two first state parks because we have two state park systems. Mackinac State Park, being the first, first state park, and Interlochen state park being the second, first state park.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +1

      Haha, I've had my fair share of mispronunciations on this channel, so I'm happy to finally get one right!

  • @ericpierce3660
    @ericpierce3660 5 месяцев назад

    Really enjoyed this video! You're a good teacher and you made it very interesting.

  • @gtbkts
    @gtbkts 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the awesome content and great video!!!

  • @EWYMedia
    @EWYMedia 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for another great video! Future topic idea: Hohokam Pima National Monument. It’s the only park site that the public cannot visit.

  • @haleydavis-martin3966
    @haleydavis-martin3966 6 месяцев назад +5

    Great as always! It’d be so cool to see a historical timeline of park history and big moments for national parks as a whole, if you’re up for making something like that! You’re awesome!

  • @randyhebbebusche3644
    @randyhebbebusche3644 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for a very informative video. Was interesting in so many ways.

  • @user-wj3jl6tf2q
    @user-wj3jl6tf2q 6 месяцев назад

    Great job. I really enjoyed the video.

  • @susanbrennan5511
    @susanbrennan5511 6 месяцев назад +2

    Very interesting and informative content. You’ve actually sparked my curiosity into national parks. Thank you.

  • @derelict_wanderer
    @derelict_wanderer 6 месяцев назад +3

    Just got back from a road trip to Oklahoma and north Texas about a month ago. Chickasaw Recreation area (Specifically Buckhorn campground) was our home base for that week. While there, we checked out a few trails and was fascinated to learn it was at one time Platt National Park. Was glad to see that it was still maintained in the parks system. Interesting history, and it honestly still is an oasis in a dry area. Just in a different way. So many things to see within a couple of hours. We stayed busy. And the lakeside camping was amazing. Glad to see this video. It gives us more areas to potentially visit in the future.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +1

      Nice! Glad to hear y'all had fun and enjoyed some lesser known NPS history!

  • @real_OleMT
    @real_OleMT 5 месяцев назад

    You have great delivery and speech.

  • @alexconrad2904
    @alexconrad2904 6 месяцев назад +12

    I love these niche topics! I think the most interesting former National Monument (other than Fossil Cycad) is Old Kasaan NM in Alaska. The population was told by the mining company in the area to move to a new site, and later its totem poles, which were the largest attraction, were moved to New Kasaan and left the old town a shell that eventually burned down. I'm not even sure Old Kasaan has anything left at its location anymore.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +2

      Oh man, never heard of this one! Gonna have to look into it. Sounds super fascinating. Thanks!

  • @antoniodelrio1292
    @antoniodelrio1292 6 месяцев назад

    Great info! Thanks!!

  • @lannyfaulkner6697
    @lannyfaulkner6697 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for this! My wife and I had our first date at Platt National Park on November 1st, 1971. When she passed away eight years ago, we had been married over forty-three years!

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      I'm sorry for your loss, but glad to know a National Park could provide you with such a special moment in your life. Thanks for sharing.

  • @kathywendt7861
    @kathywendt7861 6 месяцев назад

    Just wanted to com😂pliment you, sir. So proud of someone your age having a love for special areas and wanting keep them protected!! 👏👏👍👍❤️❤️

  • @YosemiteJ
    @YosemiteJ 6 месяцев назад

    Dude, is that a Washed Out sweater you're wearing? If so, that's awesome! He's my favorite artist.

  • @AbqDez
    @AbqDez 6 месяцев назад +2

    I just learned about Zombie Deer Disease. Can you explain the effects of these epidemics.
    Also, what role do National Parks have in understanding, controlling, & preventing outbreaks (especially zoonotic diseases.)

  • @PurpleandGeauxld
    @PurpleandGeauxld 6 месяцев назад +1

    WELL DONE!! Thanks for the shout out in the video - that was quite unexpected. I do have a postcard of Platt NP. I’ve never found any signage photos of the other 4 - not surprising though due to the era.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +1

      No problem, thanks for watching and thanks for the suggestion! That Platt NP postcard sounds AWESOME btw. What a cool piece of NPS memorabilia!

    • @PurpleandGeauxld
      @PurpleandGeauxld 6 месяцев назад

      Cameron, have you ever considered doing a video on the ANILCA Act from 1980 (Carter’s last major act as President)? I thought it would be fascinating to understand all that went into ANILCA and exploring the opposing opinions.

  • @sumo_catz4016
    @sumo_catz4016 6 месяцев назад

    Watched this video while in sully’s hill!! What a coincidence. Also great video

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      Oh wow, that's quite the journey! Have fun and thanks for watching!

  • @aazhie
    @aazhie 3 месяца назад

    This reminds of Pluto being reclassified as a dwarf planet. It's still out there doing it's thing, just a little different name :)

  • @cynthiaspear-duncan7661
    @cynthiaspear-duncan7661 6 месяцев назад

    oh and the Mackinac story reminds me of Jefferson Barracks in an odd way. Some history there, but there was a military barracks. Its next to the National Cemetery.

  • @imhappy5266
    @imhappy5266 6 месяцев назад +1

    You forgot Mystery Flesh Pit NP... use to love that place

  • @20thcenturytunes
    @20thcenturytunes 6 месяцев назад

    Bravo sir, good job on the pronounciation - now try Ypsilanti, Charlevoix, and Epoufette - All Michigan towns. TR and John Muir really were forward thinking in the need to preserve areas of natural beauty for future generations.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      I'm going to pass on those lol 😅 But yep, couldn't agree more about the foresight some of our early conservation leaders had!

  • @matthewgentry7660
    @matthewgentry7660 6 месяцев назад +2

    Dope video dude. I think a great idea would be doing a historical timeline of park history and big moments for national parks as a whole. Totally an original idea. By me.

  • @MiniBullyMom
    @MiniBullyMom 6 месяцев назад

    Love the quote on your shirt!

  • @donaldscott3921
    @donaldscott3921 6 месяцев назад +1

    Fine episode. Subscribed to this series. Wish it had been up and running when I was working on NPS history for the 75th Anniversary.
    By the way, have you done/are you doing an episode about the NPS/UC Berkeley connection?

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +1

      Welcome to the community, happy to have you here! I've done episodes on Stephen Mather and Horace Albright, both of whom graduated from UCB, but other than that I haven't touched on it much. Do you have any resources or recommendations? I don't know much about the relationship, honestly.

    • @donaldscott3921
      @donaldscott3921 6 месяцев назад

      ​ @NationalParkDiaries Yes, I worked with the Mather family on a series of workshops for GGNRA rangers about the connections. It's been a while, but I'll see what I can turn up in the storage unit. Albright's book on the Birth of the National Park Service is excellent; Shankland's Steve Mather of the National Parks ditto. There is a Stephen Mather archive in the Bancroft Library; not much there, mainly UC student stuff, but worth checking out. The NPS has an excellent website about the first Park Naturalists conference, held at Berkeley; the group is photographed on the steps of (as I recall) Hilgard Hall and the entire conference publication is there: www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/symposia/conference-pn1/proceedingst.htm

  • @DavisBenjaminA
    @DavisBenjaminA 6 месяцев назад

    FSK was on a ship when he recognized that “the flag was still there”. It is in Baltimore harbor just north east of the Key Bridge.

  • @roktman
    @roktman 6 месяцев назад +5

    Definitely an interesting video idea. While I'm more into naturally significant national parks myself, I wouldn't mind watching a video that goes more in-depth into some of the historical parks mentioned in the video.

  • @SupernovaBetty
    @SupernovaBetty 6 месяцев назад +1

    The Abraham Lincoln birthplace is kind of hilarious because they built this whole huge extremely fancy shrine over what they THOUGHT was the cabin he was born in. Further scholarship about 30 years later proved this was not the case. So it’s preserving the IDEA of his birth cabin. The signage was very amusing in this regard.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, that was pretty jarring when I visited, not going to lie. It's just this rural, modest area in the Kentucky Backwoods, and then bam, some giant neoclassical shrine thing. Pretty out of step with the whole Lincoln mythology as well lol. I don't thing it would be built today.

  • @Luciferwinchester
    @Luciferwinchester 6 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing video!
    I'd love to see you talk about Hanford Reach National monument. It's a really weird place, half wildlife habitat preservation half nuclear waste cleanup. There's a lot of history to it and no one talks about it.
    Thanks keep up the great work!

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +2

      Oh man, Hanford is really interesting. I first read about it in a book called "A River Lost" by Blaine Harden. It's fascinated me ever since and I'll definitely be covering it at some point here on the channel. Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @supacheef1
      @supacheef1 6 месяцев назад

      Rocky mtn arsenal is kinda the same without the national designation

  • @davesing
    @davesing 3 месяца назад

    Excellent research, as always. Do you know the story of Waterloo National Park in Southeast Michigan? Created in the 1930's as a training area for WPA and CCC workers, Waterloo is now Waterloo State Recreation Area. I think you would find its history fascinating.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  3 месяца назад

      I had not heard of it until now, but looking into it a little bit, it looks like it was one of the Recreational Demonstration Areas created during the Depression (part of the same program that created Catoctin Mountain Park and Prince William Forest Park). Those have a really fascinating history (which I touched on in my Catoctin video), and it looks like Waterloo is no different! I love areas like that and their connections to conservation history. Very cool, thanks for sharing!

  • @creekbandit
    @creekbandit 6 месяцев назад

    59 seconds and I’m subscribed ✌️

  • @puttentanesame6687
    @puttentanesame6687 6 месяцев назад +1

    Public lands are gold nuggets to the American people. They are beyond precious, regardless of so-called 'designations'...

  • @gfoltz5580
    @gfoltz5580 7 месяцев назад +3

    Why and how was the gateway arch made a national park?

    • @meganstahlberger608
      @meganstahlberger608 6 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/video/ahAt1thQV74/видео.html he talks about it in this video!

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +1

      Made a video all about this! You can watch it here: ruclips.net/video/ahAt1thQV74/видео.html

  • @rdaltry777
    @rdaltry777 6 месяцев назад

    As I go to work passing Folger, Marion, Seward....did I mention it's a 2 mile trip?

  • @jamesbean1962
    @jamesbean1962 6 месяцев назад +1

    How about covering state parks that should / could be national parks? eg Custer State Park, Goblin Valley State Park.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      Good topic suggestion! I haven't covered many State Parks on the channel yet, but I'm certainly open to it - lots of good state park stories out there. Thanks!

  • @meganstahlberger608
    @meganstahlberger608 6 месяцев назад +4

    Can you do a video with a timeline of big laws for National Parks (antiquities act, national park service being established, ect)? Thanks!

  • @sarashaffer-henry3796
    @sarashaffer-henry3796 6 месяцев назад

    I believe Lake of the Ozarks in MO is a former NP too, and now a state park.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 6 месяцев назад

      Recreational Demonstration Area under the NPS but was one of a a bunch to become a state park rather than a national park

  • @thtyeyo
    @thtyeyo 6 месяцев назад

    ohhh 💕 for actually pronouncing mackinac correctly!! i'm a michigander, it's so rare to see people from outside the state pronounce it right

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      Haha, I'm glad I could make all my Michigan subscribers happy on this one 😂

  • @calvinfloyd6879
    @calvinfloyd6879 6 месяцев назад

    You did Mackinac!! Thank you!!!

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      Haha, yep! Fascinating park with a fascinating story. Might even deserve it's own video at some point!

  • @arc4705
    @arc4705 6 месяцев назад

    5:11 typing it 7eventh in the captions is a mood, I'm out here handwriting 4our 😭

  • @carllivingston169
    @carllivingston169 6 месяцев назад +3

    I live in the Pinelands National Reserve in New Jersey, the Nation's first. A video describing what a reserve is and how it differs from a preserve, monument, park, etc. Also, at least the Pine Barrens seems to be run by the NPS, State of NJ, Public & Private Foundations and the Pinelands Alliance. A video on either the Pine Barrens or National Reserves would be awesome!

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +2

      The Pine Barrens are fascinating to me. Definitely going to cover them some day. Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @markreetz1001
    @markreetz1001 6 месяцев назад +1

    Of the 5 you listed, Mackinac is the only one no longer under Federal administration according to the picture of White Horse Hill National Game Preserve. It's interesting that of all the places that you would think should be protected and has vast historical significance and natural beauty, Mackinac is it. But I really am not bothered that it isn't a national park. Having the Feds running it is not much better than selling it to developers. The state has a pretty tight reign on the Island.

    • @markweaver1012
      @markweaver1012 6 месяцев назад +1

      I'm never particularly happy when any particular place is 'promoted' to a full national park. The crowds inevitably increase due to the publicity and the management become more heavy-handed than when the land was managed by the state, the Forest Service, BLM or others. I often hike with my dog, am a mountain biker, and enjoy dispersed camping. National Parks typically prohibit all these activities, and so we often find ourselves having to specifically avoid national parks when enjoying the great outdoors.

    • @markreetz1001
      @markreetz1001 6 месяцев назад

      You brought up some things I didn't know or hadn't thought about! Thanks! Having "National Park" status doesn't automatically make something "better".

  • @Donnys_speedshop
    @Donnys_speedshop 6 месяцев назад

    Please do a video on Old Kasaan. I am Haida from Prince of Wales island in Alaska and would love to see it

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      I've actually gotten several recommendations for this one and it sounds like a fascinating topic. I'll definitely be covering it at some point!

  • @skykaptain007
    @skykaptain007 6 месяцев назад +1

    As a Yooper, props to pronouncing Mackinac Island correctly

  • @jeremiahrobineau6932
    @jeremiahrobineau6932 6 месяцев назад +2

    There's a couple National Monuments that were decommissioned in Colorado that I've always wanted to learn more about... they have heavy ties with the 4 great surveys of the American West in the 1800s... you should look into Wheeler National Monument and Mount of the Holy Cross National Monument...

  • @kylesmith7437
    @kylesmith7437 6 месяцев назад

    General Grant NP? Or was that a name change to Kings Canyon NP? and now administered jointly with Sequoia

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, technically just a name change and acreage increase. And it wasn't "demoted" like the others in this video since it kept its NP status. But, super fascinating story nonetheless and a good one for a future video!

  • @aita2565
    @aita2565 6 месяцев назад

    the dig at the Gateway Arch was funny
    sincerely,
    someone from St. Louis

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +1

      Hahahaha, I've been to Gateway Arch and it was cool! I enjoyed my visit, but it should have remained a National Memorial. It's just not a National Park worthy place...

    • @aita2565
      @aita2565 6 месяцев назад

      @@NationalParkDiaries lol, definitely agree! though I'm not gonna complain about it 🤣

  • @cynthiabergloff
    @cynthiabergloff 6 месяцев назад

    You should check out the tribal national park at red cliff Wisconsin

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      Tribal National Parks are a fascinating subject! Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @peggyfoster3638
    @peggyfoster3638 6 месяцев назад

    I'd love to see the complete list.

  • @tedmiles2110
    @tedmiles2110 6 месяцев назад +1

    They did some tree ring research on the logs; they turned out to be newer than 1809. Woops! I worked at San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park for 30 years. It was a private museum, then part of Golden Gate National Recreation Area, then a National Historical Park. Some other parks have been private museums. You might want to discuss those sites. TM retired but interested

  • @bostonrailfan2427
    @bostonrailfan2427 6 месяцев назад +3

    Mackinac wasn’t the first state park, it was actually Yosemite that was first as it was a state park for years before the feds took it over…Mackinac was beaten by Niagara Falls State Park as the newest state park by months, and technically both were beaten by the Metropolitan parks around Boston by two years but those weren’t opened to the public until 1896

    • @RunSwimDrum
      @RunSwimDrum Месяц назад

      Minnesota’s Itasca State Park was also established earlier than Mackinac (as a state park), in 1891.

  • @wetbobspongepants
    @wetbobspongepants 6 месяцев назад

    Great idea for content. Well presented.
    How about stories about the people behind these parks

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching! I've actually got an ongoing series called "Park Profiles" where I talk about various figures in National Park and conservation history. Check it out if you're interested and more to come!

  • @chagrined4days
    @chagrined4days 6 месяцев назад +1

    Mackinac island is one of my favorite places ever, and I didn't know it used to be a national park! Extremely cool to learn.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      Yea, it's one of those ones that just kind of flies under the radar because it was deauthorized so long ago. But, very cool piece of NPS history for sure!

    • @DENVEROUTDOORMAN
      @DENVEROUTDOORMAN 6 месяцев назад

      Nope

  • @MojaveZach
    @MojaveZach 6 месяцев назад +1

    I learned a little bit about Mackinac Island in my history of the national parks class so that was interesting to see

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +1

      It's the one that gets overlooked the most I feel like simply because it was "demoted" before National Parks really became a thing. Super interesting history though!

  • @nathanjw940
    @nathanjw940 6 месяцев назад

    Macinac is beautiful either way highly recommend

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      Definitely want to make it up there one of these days!

  • @HabeasJ
    @HabeasJ 6 месяцев назад

    Roadless areas video please!

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      That's been at the front of my mind recently! Might start working on that soon 👌

  • @AJShiningThreads
    @AJShiningThreads 6 месяцев назад

    Something I would like to hear about is how we can interact with these parks.
    Talk about perhaps lessor know trails and adventures. Paint more of a picture. I come to these channels to be inspired. Its escapism! Please don't talk so much about environmental issues. I so care about them but I need mental rest from all the negatively in the news. I want to learn about the history, the plabts and animals and the geology and learn about the dangers of the parks.

  • @stayorbit1666
    @stayorbit1666 6 месяцев назад

    Could you do a video on the history of the national park passport program?

  • @mwolfe7883
    @mwolfe7883 6 месяцев назад

    So what you showed of Abraham Lincoln’s birthplace national park is two separate sites that you have to drive to get from one to the other.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      Correct - but still all technically part of Abraham Lincoln Birthplace NHP

    • @mwolfe7883
      @mwolfe7883 6 месяцев назад

      @@NationalParkDiaries just commenting so travelers realize that. They are not right next to each other.

  • @custodialmark
    @custodialmark 6 месяцев назад

    ? Have you looked into our local, Blackwell school, for natives pre civil rights. now a Monument last month

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +2

      I read the story of the Blackwell Schools for the first time in National Parks Magazine just a few months ago. I'd love to cover it here on the channel someday.

  • @3rin817
    @3rin817 6 месяцев назад +2

    Laura S. Walker State Park in South Georgia used to be a National Park (Laura S. Walker National Park) from 1937-41.
    The nearby Okefenokee National Wildlife Refuge is one of those places that would have been an amazing National Park had most of the Swamp not been logged. The Wildlife Refuge is protecting what is left & what has grown back since the naval store days.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +5

      So... this comment sent me down a bit of a rabbit hole lol! I did find some info from the "Friends of Georgia State Parks and Historic Sites" referring to it as a "National Park," but I couldn't find any official documentation from the NPS that it was considered an actual _National Park_ . Best I can tell (and again, this is just what I could find online), Laura S. Walker was _a park_ under Federal control (from a New Deal-era land reclamation project), but never held the title _National Park_ . Super pedantic, I know, but I'm weird about these administrative divisions and titles lol. If you have any other resources I could look into, I'd love to learn more. I'm happy to be wrong on this one!

    • @3rin817
      @3rin817 6 месяцев назад

      @@NationalParkDiaries I wouldn't know any other resources, but I know it was a CCC camp. Some of the older buildings are old CCC cabins.
      If you ever venture out into other federal lands (non-NPS federal lands), the Okefenokee would make a fantastic episode. It's my favorite Interior Dept site. So beautiful!

  • @tac185
    @tac185 6 месяцев назад +3

    Would be interesting if you covered the "Recreational Demonstration Areas" that were set to made National Parks but never were. It's funny that Pennsylvania had six (Ricketts Glen, French Creek, Raccoon Creek, Laurel Hill, Blue Knob, and Hickory Run State Parks) and were built up by the CCC, but currently has no National Parks. I think WWII ended that whole plan. Seems like the IUCN even classified some of them as National Parks until fairly recently.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +2

      I actually covered these briefly in the video I did about Catoctin Mountain Park and Camp David. They probably could be their own video as well, but if you need something to hold you over, you can check that one out!

    • @mountainsintomemories
      @mountainsintomemories 6 месяцев назад

      We’ve been to Ricketts, Blue Knob, and Laurel Hill. I’d want to get to the others as well. The work of the CCC in these areas is really spectacular. Ricketts Glen is really underrated. It’s interesting that the one place in PA (Delaware Gap) they now want to make a NP is lackluster by comparison.

    • @Nolan.Grimes
      @Nolan.Grimes 6 месяцев назад

      That’s interesting. I live near Raccoon Creek and saw an old map from the 40s or late 30s where it was labeled as a National Park. I had just assumed it was a mistake

  • @sethlogee
    @sethlogee 6 месяцев назад

    You should do a deep dive on Kings Canyon National Park one of the least known and least used national park. And Don’t include Sequoia 😂

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      King's Canyon does have a really interesting history, especially with its beginnings as General Grant NP. Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @josephhirsch1796
    @josephhirsch1796 6 месяцев назад

    Pictured Rocks in MI has National park status. I think its important that MI has some areas of scenic value.

    • @PurpleandGeauxld
      @PurpleandGeauxld 6 месяцев назад

      I think Pictured Rocks is a National Lakeshore, managed by the NPS/Dept. of Interior, but not a full fledged National Park (Grand Teton NP as an example).

    • @josephhirsch1796
      @josephhirsch1796 6 месяцев назад

      @@PurpleandGeauxld That makes sense. I know you would know the proper status of it.

  • @shirleybalinski4535
    @shirleybalinski4535 6 месяцев назад

    Mackinac Island is important in this Nation's history in 2 ways. The Island was the beginning of America's fur trade years before it moved to its more celebrated trade in the Rockie Mountains. The study, developement & understanding of all gastrointestinal medicine had its beginning in medical knowledge due to a gun shot abdominal wound suffered by a French fur trader. Dr Beaumont, who was on the island, made this fellow his " study" subject for many years. The wound never healed over allowing Dr.Beaumont visuall observation of human digestion, which he wrote & lectured on. The Island remains pretty much as it was with a small village, no motor transportation allowed, and little commercial development,despite 300 years of European occupation.

  • @Pigpen1202
    @Pigpen1202 6 месяцев назад

    I’m from Michigan and I cringe when I here people pronounce it wrong. Good job on doing it right 🎉

  • @justjohnn
    @justjohnn 6 месяцев назад

    Love the sweatshirt

  • @mikalpechota770
    @mikalpechota770 6 месяцев назад

    The man made NP in St.Louis should be changed back to a NM.

  • @pewtercity3591
    @pewtercity3591 6 месяцев назад

    My man forgot about the Mystery Flesh Pit National Park

  • @rikspector
    @rikspector 6 месяцев назад

    I haven't scene any of your vlogs I didn't like...yet!!!!
    Be Warned:)
    Cheers,
    Rik Spector

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +1

      Hahaha, thanks Rik! I'll try and keep the streak going 😂

    • @rikspector
      @rikspector 6 месяцев назад

      @@NationalParkDiaries “scene “was intentional😁

  • @jomama5186
    @jomama5186 6 месяцев назад

    How does this even happen ??? How is this ever allowed ???

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      All of these places are still protected in some fashion, some are even still under control of the National Park Service. With these particular parks, most were redesignated because they didn't "fit" the prevailing notion of what a National Park should be at the time. I find it a fascinating time capsule into how we've historically thought about what a National Park should be.

  • @safron2442
    @safron2442 6 месяцев назад

    I am curious about something. I hear all the time here in MS about how a park on the coast, Davis Bayou, is a "National Park" despite me being unable to find any information about it being given that designation. It *is* a part of the Gulf Islands National Seashore. I am wondering if the GINS was ever considered to be a park rather than a seashore? I'm unsure as to what the designation of "National Seashore" does to protect our beauty along the coast

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      I personally have never seen where Davis Bayou would have been a separately legislated "National Park." I think what's probably happening is its being referred to as a "National Park," even though it's "official" designation is part of the National Seashore, which is technically part of the National Park System, but not an official "National Park." All of the designations are kind of confusing (I have an entire video on it lol), but generally speaking, all units of the National Park System are treated the same, even if they don't carry the "official" National Park designation, and so you'll often see people just refer to them all as "National Parks." I'm guilty of this myself.

  • @skysthelimitvideos
    @skysthelimitvideos 6 месяцев назад +2

    I’m glad these places are still being persevered in other ways

  • @kiltsurfer
    @kiltsurfer 6 месяцев назад

    Suggestion for a video: What are the hardest NP to visit? How do you visit them and what is there to see/do. I would suggest including Isle Royale National Park & Dry Tortugas National Park.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      Interesting topic - thanks for the suggestion!

    • @DENVEROUTDOORMAN
      @DENVEROUTDOORMAN 6 месяцев назад

      Walk on your two feet

    • @kiltsurfer
      @kiltsurfer 6 месяцев назад

      @@DENVEROUTDOORMAN You can't! That was the whole point of the suggestion. They are parks you cannot walk to.

  • @SnepperStepTV
    @SnepperStepTV 6 месяцев назад

    The reason Mystery Flesh Pit National Park isn't on this list is they reopened in 2022

  • @cynthiaspear-duncan7661
    @cynthiaspear-duncan7661 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love the Abraham Lincoln Birthplace. I am not so sure about the need as National Park, but its a beautiful place and close to other really cool places like Gethsemane Abbey and some awesome distilleries with historic significance.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      I really enjoyed my visit to Lincoln Birthplace! I tacked it on to a trip to Mammoth Cave (along with Lincoln Boyhood in Indiana) and had a wonderful time. Small, quiet, contemplative - really great experience.

    • @cynthiaspear-duncan7661
      @cynthiaspear-duncan7661 6 месяцев назад

      I love all of those.@@NationalParkDiaries

    • @ninjagirl226
      @ninjagirl226 6 месяцев назад

      I my opinion the distinction between parks has shifted with Gateway Arch. I’d rather see Lincoln’s birthplace or Fort McHenry (which I love Fort McHenry) as a full park before the arch.

  • @HunderbarDachs
    @HunderbarDachs 6 месяцев назад

    good video but the timestamps are whack

  • @mightytax
    @mightytax 6 месяцев назад

    I went to Macinac during the winter season. Big mistake don’t do that

  • @kimberchick8527
    @kimberchick8527 6 месяцев назад

    What a sad video title... not your fault or anything. Just sad to hear of even one going away. I'll watch this video later after work, just wanted to comment now.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад +1

      Have no fear! All parks in this video are still under some form of protection! Just no longer have the "National Park" title.

  • @jimc.goodfellas226
    @jimc.goodfellas226 6 месяцев назад

    Amor fati! Are you a fellow Nietzsche respecter

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      Haha, it's actually Nathaniel Drew merch, but I completely agree with the sentiment behind the quote. It really resonates with me.

  • @elwoodblues9613
    @elwoodblues9613 6 месяцев назад

    I'm new to the channel. You want ideas, here's one: I'm a proud EX-Californian. And I love Yosemite; people from both NorCal and SoCal love Yosemite. It has a fascinating history since 1890, you could cover that. Or specifically the Valley's former trails. Especially the Ledge Trail, a treacherous trail that led straight up the Valley wall from Camp Curry to Glacier Point.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      Welcome! Yosemite is one of my most covered parks at this point! I've recently told the early history of Yosemite and the Supreme Court case that legitimized National Parks, plus covered things like the old Firefall. Anyway, thanks for your suggestions - much appreciated!

  • @dumbcow1
    @dumbcow1 6 месяцев назад

    I love looking at NPS properties of the past. My favorite has to be Papago Saguaro NM. People who live in Phoenix, have no idea that the NPS set aside the Papago Park area as a prime example of saguaro cacti, and the history of the WW2 POW camp (where the largest POW escape on American soil took place). NPS got frustrated by so many people going there, said it ruined the ecosystem. Were happy to give it over to the city, and then established Saguaro NP down by Tucson as the new site of saguaro preservation.

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      So much fascinating history in these places! That's why I love telling their stories!

  • @CampDanimal
    @CampDanimal 6 месяцев назад +2

    As a Michigander, learning that Mackinac may be the oldest state park just made me love this state even more

  • @meganstahlberger608
    @meganstahlberger608 6 месяцев назад

    I am not doubting your pronunciation, I know you're right because you do a lot of research. I just hate that that is how it's pronounced...

    • @NationalParkDiaries
      @NationalParkDiaries  6 месяцев назад

      It's a strange one, for sure. A holdover from a French pronunciation of an originally indigenous name.

    • @cherylsiedelmann6329
      @cherylsiedelmann6329 6 месяцев назад

      Go to Mackinaw City, at the tip of the LP if you want spelling and pronunciation to match. When videos pronounce Mackinac wrong I stop watching because I know they haven't done their homework.

  • @PDXLibertarian
    @PDXLibertarian 6 месяцев назад

    A good topic would be the Orrick peanut and enlargement of Redwood National Park in the late 70's and how the promises that were made were not kept. What the public was told was that the park would draw tourism, but they never built the amenities, and all the lumbermen lost their careers.

  • @Robert_McGarry_Poems
    @Robert_McGarry_Poems 6 месяцев назад

    I thought I cared, but learning about the nationalism of our war faring slavers, isn't my go to anymore... nice video, I'll see myself out.

  • @flashwashington2735
    @flashwashington2735 6 месяцев назад

    You say I'll know what it means to be a national park. You are so cruel!! I just found out I can never be a national park. LIAR!!!!