What I like more about voiceflow is that you can make a deal with them to get better prices when you have more volume. That is super cool to build a business around it. The more clients you get, the cheaper it gets.
I like this topic. Our main platform is Voiceflow and our backup is Botpress. Both options are very good but we stick with Voiceflow as main because Botpress often has network issues that prevent us from using API posts that are necessary for automations.
I struggle with the Sandbox plan on Voiceflow, the token limit basically means I can't really learn, test, develop chatbots because I will eventually run out of tokens. I like how Botpress doesnt have that limit. Not sure why there's such a hard limit when in their free plan.
I'm not sure how it was 5 months ago, but right now Botpress also has a limit of 5 dollars. Also for me, it was much easier to configure AI responses and the knowledge base in Voiceflow. The botpress bot kept responding with long answers and I couldn't fix it several hours into development. In Voiceflow I've spent like 5 minutes and it was already better in terms of tokens usage
Hi Alex, please could you help me? I can't get my chat bot to open itself on my clients website. I've have Google wahy js code to use etc but nothing is working the user has to slick the chat icon for the chat bot to open. How do you do it? Tell me briefly and I'll, work the rest out ie put code here. Thanks
Thank you so much for the superb video bro! I dig the in depth comparison you did here. I'll definitely take these points into consideration while building bots. Thank you and take care! ❤
It's worth noting that Voiceflow can work in languages even though they're "not supported" in the options. You just have to add a prompt to KB that he can only respond in certain language. I just did that with Croatian and it works better then in Botpress even though you have a translator agent there because it often bugs out and breaks. I get a lot less answers in English when I build a bot in Voiceflow then in Botpress.
Awesome vid dude. In botpress when integrating with whatsapp, is there a way to hand the conversation from the bot to a human/agent so that we can chat manually with the customer using the same whatsapp/meta business number?
Hey Great Video ! Though, Pretty sure Botpress allows entity extraction, in fact they've been offering that feature for more than 4 years. It's just a little complicated, you have to define an entity before you capture it. Any case, well done. Keep these videos coming !
Hey Alex thanks for such a complete and comprehensive review. I've got one question . When should one opt to fine tune and llm such llama2 instead of using a platform like Botpress?
Great video and thanks for the info! As another commenter noted, it's a shame the sandbox plan for Voiceflow only gives you 100,000 tokens which is nowhere near enough to build out anything useful! How are u finding VF compares when in production for costs compared to BotPtress? It looks as though it would be a lot more expensive to keep running.
Hi Alexander and thanks for this video! Given your experience on both platforms how did you deal with the chat hallucination issues? I switched from Botpress to Voiceflow I found an improvement but the problem still persists! What is your experience? Thank you :)
Hey man , Great Video, I am planning to build a chat bot for my Hindi Speaking Community niche being DEFI, Crypto, Does Bot press support Native languages like Hindi, DO I have to translate the data in Hindi at the time of sourcing or even if I upload documents in english or if I connect with various API will the bot still be able to chat in HINDI with the user ?
Thanks! Yes, Hindi is supported by GPT and therefore also by Botpress. In my first video, I teach in the beginning how to include a translation system. With that method, you can create the bot for your hindi speaking community. Hope that could help!
Great video. Would you say as someone who doesn't code (my strength is design and business) is it worth learning all these tools myself or hire/partner up with someone like you? I'm working on a SaaS for companies with sales teams and what's holding me back is the backend and building out all the features fast enough
Thanks! Learning and understanding bot builders like Botpress doesn't take that long. The problem there is that building a bot most of the time goes hand in hand with coding because of some customization requests. Learning the coding fundamentals takes multiple months, really learning how to code multiple years. I would advise you to partner up with an agency that brings the development knowledge in, so that you can focus on your strengths and areas you are great in and familiar with.
What do you think about combining botpress with stack Ai as a fallback, and add open ai as a 3rd fallback this can be a good setup for your chatbot then you can charge more to your clients 😊
I would always aadvide to use Stack AI / Flowise for the KB. I don't like to rely on the built-in one from Botpress. But building multiple fallback layers is definitely a smart thing to do.
What I like more about voiceflow is that you can make a deal with them to get better prices when you have more volume. That is super cool to build a business around it. The more clients you get, the cheaper it gets.
Great video man! The way you were able to explain the strengths and shortcomings of both shows you actually took the time to understand them
I like this topic. Our main platform is Voiceflow and our backup is Botpress. Both options are very good but we stick with Voiceflow as main because Botpress often has network issues that prevent us from using API posts that are necessary for automations.
Exactly. The network issue on Botpress gives me trust issues as well.
Good stuff man. Keep them coming, I know you are just starting but the quality is exemplary! Kudos
Voiceflow was original a IDE for alexa apps. The chatbot function was implemented later.
BotPress Is the hidden gem, it's going to crush all other no code platforms
Been using VF for a long time, pretty decent tool and very easy to use.
You deserve a sub mate. Much needed content. Keep it up.
Great Video. I am data scientist and starting a AAA. Hopefully it will help me.
I struggle with the Sandbox plan on Voiceflow, the token limit basically means I can't really learn, test, develop chatbots because I will eventually run out of tokens. I like how Botpress doesnt have that limit. Not sure why there's such a hard limit when in their free plan.
I'm not sure how it was 5 months ago, but right now Botpress also has a limit of 5 dollars.
Also for me, it was much easier to configure AI responses and the knowledge base in Voiceflow. The botpress bot kept responding with long answers and I couldn't fix it several hours into development. In Voiceflow I've spent like 5 minutes and it was already better in terms of tokens usage
Hi Alex, please could you help me? I can't get my chat bot to open itself on
my clients website. I've have Google wahy js code to use etc but nothing is working the user has to slick the chat icon for the chat bot to open. How do you do it? Tell me briefly and I'll, work the rest out ie put code here. Thanks
Thank you so much for the superb video bro! I dig the in depth comparison you did here. I'll definitely take these points into consideration while building bots. Thank you and take care! ❤
Thanks for this, and do you have a video on how to build out a great chatbot for a client site?
It's worth noting that Voiceflow can work in languages even though they're "not supported" in the options. You just have to add a prompt to KB that he can only respond in certain language. I just did that with Croatian and it works better then in Botpress even though you have a translator agent there because it often bugs out and breaks. I get a lot less answers in English when I build a bot in Voiceflow then in Botpress.
jel mozes pojasniti kako se to tocno radi? ne znam bas puno u voiceflowu
Exceptional video. Thank you very much.
Really great explanation Thanks
Excellent video Bro!
Awesome vid dude.
In botpress when integrating with whatsapp, is there a way to hand the conversation from the bot to a human/agent so that we can chat manually with the customer using the same whatsapp/meta business number?
Hey Great Video !
Though, Pretty sure Botpress allows entity extraction, in fact they've been offering that feature for more than 4 years. It's just a little complicated, you have to define an entity before you capture it.
Any case, well done. Keep these videos coming !
Great video!
Thank you for clear comparison
Hey Alex thanks for such a complete and comprehensive review. I've got one question . When should one opt to fine tune and llm such llama2 instead of using a platform like Botpress?
I subscribed just for this video alone, thanks.
Great video bro! Keep it up! 🙏🏻
lovely stuff man - just dropped u a linkedin message. would love to catch up at some point
Great video and thanks for the info! As another commenter noted, it's a shame the sandbox plan for Voiceflow only gives you 100,000 tokens which is nowhere near enough to build out anything useful! How are u finding VF compares when in production for costs compared to BotPtress? It looks as though it would be a lot more expensive to keep running.
Does either of these two platforms have the option for a human fallback? Basically the bot assigning the chat to a human in very very specific cases?
Gutes Video, danke dir!
Amazing job, thanks!
Great job on this video!
Great video! Thank you!
Hi Alexander and thanks for this video!
Given your experience on both platforms how did you deal with the chat hallucination issues? I switched from Botpress to Voiceflow I found an improvement but the problem still persists! What is your experience?
Thank you :)
Great video🔥 thanks for the advice
how well is your agency doing?
a very useful video.. thank you.
Hey man , Great Video, I am planning to build a chat bot for my Hindi Speaking Community niche being DEFI, Crypto, Does Bot press support Native languages like Hindi, DO I have to translate the data in Hindi at the time of sourcing or even if I upload documents in english or if I connect with various API will the bot still be able to chat in HINDI with the user ?
Thanks!
Yes, Hindi is supported by GPT and therefore also by Botpress.
In my first video, I teach in the beginning how to include a translation system.
With that method, you can create the bot for your hindi speaking community.
Hope that could help!
Thanks Man. @@Alexander-Baer
Great video.
Would you say as someone who doesn't code (my strength is design and business) is it worth learning all these tools myself or hire/partner up with someone like you?
I'm working on a SaaS for companies with sales teams and what's holding me back is the backend and building out all the features fast enough
Thanks!
Learning and understanding bot builders like Botpress doesn't take that long.
The problem there is that building a bot most of the time goes hand in hand with coding because of some customization requests.
Learning the coding fundamentals takes multiple months, really learning how to code multiple years.
I would advise you to partner up with an agency that brings the development knowledge in, so that you can focus on your strengths and areas you are great in and familiar with.
@@Alexander-Baer makes a lot of sense, thanks :)
Can you make video about outreaching?
For sure!
What do you think about combining botpress with stack Ai as a fallback, and add open ai as a 3rd fallback this can be a good setup for your chatbot then you can charge more to your clients 😊
I would always aadvide to use Stack AI / Flowise for the KB. I don't like to rely on the built-in one from Botpress. But building multiple fallback layers is definitely a smart thing to do.
@@Alexander-Baer Why? What's wrong with the built-in one?
@@NoobFriendlyAI The algorithm Botpress uses to crawl tehe data from the KB in Botpress is not really great.
@@Alexander-Baerso in this case is better voiceflow?
Entities can be captured in botpress too...