@@Sera_Ow sj wasnt actually a thing during moth meta! the bug itself was created because of slingshot being added as compensation buffs after nerfing mercy to the ground cause of moth meta. later on people discovered sj, but it wasn't possible until after moth meta :> sj will probaly be a thing in the next OW classic, where she will have her old slingshot/movement, along with the bug
Something about this that grinds my gears is how they went about changing Orisa’s barrier. Because fun fact, ALMOST EVERY ASPECT OF THE BARRIER ISN’T HOW IT WAS DURING THE SEPTEMBER 2017 PATCH. Her barrier should have had 900 health, an 8 second cooldown (it was 12 seconds on her launch but it was buffed in August a month before the moth meta), and the duration should have been 20 seconds. That last one specifically annoys me because the duration of Orisa’s barrier has LITERALLY NEVER been shorter than the ability cooldown. They actively went out of their way to nerf Orisa’s barrier so I know this wasn’t them just forgetting. This was an act of malice.
Ngl, they made mercys res animation crap by speeding the live version up, would kinda feel more nostalgic and better with the exact old animation! Since its ow classic
3:33 fun fact doom shuld still have a 3 SECONDS AIR LOCK ON HIS UPERCUT aka what ball does on piel driver but about 370% ish worse so have fun fighting that abomination
A small thing, but don't call barriers shields. The blue health is a shield. The deployable objects from Symmetra, Orisa, Reinhardt, etc. are barriers. Symmetra's shield generator generates shields but does nothing to barriers because barriers aren't shields. Also, Orisa deploys a djembe. It doesn't even look like a bongo.
This is technically dive. You assemble a dive team and take an aggressive dive when your mercy has ults. If the enemy wastes their ults on the dive that's even better. Bc the 3 dives keeps theirs and use them after they're rezed. Just need a Pharah for the Mercy to survive better since they nerfed the cd on ga and you can't bounce around as good w/o one. Though the Pharah was almost always there anyways.
mercy still having cast time on rez is bs if you just look at first mercy rework you can see its instant and increasing speed while rezzing is just another shit thing since its easier to cancel rez
im so annoyed, the version of lucio here is straight up a year older than what it should be, his major changes (speed boost at the end of wallride) was introduced in like mid 2017, the moth mercy patch was introduced late 2017/early 2018, i was so excited to play that version of lucio but they forgot him :(
i never get why you think the shield is useless, even if it did move forward its a shield you van just summon its also durable than sigmas too considering it doesnt break easily
Probably newgen but superjump wasn't even a ability. It was a bug found after massive nerfes to mercy since she was too strong in the moth meta. Hope this helps
@@HarryPropper I played Overwatch since 2016, Im making this comment just to highlight the fact that they called it this way but since it was a bug and that they implemanted it to the game, they also removed the og way to do it (that is why you can do it but pressing jump doesnt launch you) Im being sarcastic here cause I played mercy for almost 10 years now, so I know this isnt moth meta and not even Mercy back then...
@@Ravioli43 yh but sj was still able to be done, it is just implemanting the sj that killed it since it was a bug... they removed the best skill mecanism of Mercy's gameplay and make us think, Ow classic represents the true gameplay, but I feel like plat player when I play the mode ☠️
wish i knew someone who actually did that lol most people i know ended up dropping it due to the terrible and clunky optimization. marvel rivals isnt even that impressive looking graphics wise and they still messed up with UE5
@@polar60661. the art direction is why it looks like that it’s suoooed to look like a comic book . 2. plays better than overwatch classic when they had 2 months to optimize it 3. is way more fun 4. every role feels impactful not just one is completely dominating and the specific characters that are can be banned.
Mercy. Her Pre-nerfed Valk ultimate enhanced all of her abilities. GA and Rez were broken. 1. GA: She had increased movement speed and fast GA flying all over the place at increased speed making her hard to hit. 2.Rez was instant (no cast time). If rez was on cooldown and you popped your ult, you’d get it back. This meant you basically had 2 instant rez abilities back to back with no cast time. Mercy’s were basically flying around rezzing everything like moths drawn to a flame.
call me crazy but old sombra was better. change how hack work to how it is now and the character wouldn’t be the mot annoying person on the planet. hack the target hack duration is 2 seconds long but give her a damage boost.
This is the good, blast to play Overwatch i remember!! Still not enough to win against Rivals....too little too late OW2. You ruined it when you went free to play and started charging $20 a skin. Loot boxes were literally better. Free skins just for playing.
so mercy isn’t even how she was during moth meta??💀
Sj was a bug, they kinda fixed it and since you can do the tech but cant fly after pressing jump key :D
So no she is not
What do you mean?
@@Sera_Ow sj wasnt actually a thing during moth meta! the bug itself was created because of slingshot being added as compensation buffs after nerfing mercy to the ground cause of moth meta. later on people discovered sj, but it wasn't possible until after moth meta :>
sj will probaly be a thing in the next OW classic, where she will have her old slingshot/movement, along with the bug
@@Sera_Ow Idk but I think OP means Mercy doesn't have her insta rez like when she was first reworked
Why would they market this as moth meta when the two the things that made that meta (instant res and the speed on GA) is not there/nerfed
dps doom is enough to bear lmao
@polar6066 but it's not technically Moth meta. It's doom meta.
Baiting mercy mains back
Something about this that grinds my gears is how they went about changing Orisa’s barrier. Because fun fact, ALMOST EVERY ASPECT OF THE BARRIER ISN’T HOW IT WAS DURING THE SEPTEMBER 2017 PATCH. Her barrier should have had 900 health, an 8 second cooldown (it was 12 seconds on her launch but it was buffed in August a month before the moth meta), and the duration should have been 20 seconds. That last one specifically annoys me because the duration of Orisa’s barrier has LITERALLY NEVER been shorter than the ability cooldown. They actively went out of their way to nerf Orisa’s barrier so I know this wasn’t them just forgetting. This was an act of malice.
Yes! The Actual Good Overwatch Classic is out!!!
Trash, regular 6v6 2-2-2 or even quick play 6v6 is way better...I'm going to miss it 😢
Nah it's a pain if you're not playing Mercy and you're gonna get gunned by a Mercy in this mode for sure
this was one of the worst eras in og ow. mercy res was quick and roadhog got nerfed to the ground lmao.
Ngl, they made mercys res animation crap by speeding the live version up, would kinda feel more nostalgic and better with the exact old animation! Since its ow classic
3:33 fun fact doom shuld still have a 3 SECONDS AIR LOCK ON HIS UPERCUT aka what ball does on piel driver but about 370% ish worse so have fun fighting that abomination
A small thing, but don't call barriers shields. The blue health is a shield. The deployable objects from Symmetra, Orisa, Reinhardt, etc. are barriers. Symmetra's shield generator generates shields but does nothing to barriers because barriers aren't shields. Also, Orisa deploys a djembe. It doesn't even look like a bongo.
What’s next dive,goats,double shield ? For overwatch classic ?
Tecnicalyy this is dive
This is technically dive. You assemble a dive team and take an aggressive dive when your mercy has ults. If the enemy wastes their ults on the dive that's even better. Bc the 3 dives keeps theirs and use them after they're rezed. Just need a Pharah for the Mercy to survive better since they nerfed the cd on ga and you can't bounce around as good w/o one. Though the Pharah was almost always there anyways.
mercy still having cast time on rez is bs if you just look at first mercy rework you can see its instant and increasing speed while rezzing is just another shit thing since its easier to cancel rez
But blade does 120 damage(without nano btw)
The combo slash dash slash can one tap
So basically he got buff.
So all this is is old features that have returned
Yup ow in a nutshell
Thank you for a breakdown of all changes and additions. Very helpful.
Dawg seeing og orisa back makes me happy 😊
the devs must really hate sombra
Everyone does even when she's bad. Ptsd
omg thank u so much for the vid!!
I only started playing in OW2 so i had no idea what the changes were!
this was very helpful and detalied ♥
Old Fist is Back
Thank god there isn’t brigitte
Widowmaker still exists. hard pass on playing this.
im so annoyed, the version of lucio here is straight up a year older than what it should be, his major changes (speed boost at the end of wallride) was introduced in like mid 2017, the moth mercy patch was introduced late 2017/early 2018, i was so excited to play that version of lucio but they forgot him :(
the fact they actually advertises this with "moth meta" boggles my mind. like "yeah i REALLY wanna play moth meta! (sarcasm)"
Finally my old orisa is back❤
i never get why you think the shield is useless, even if it did move forward its a shield you van just summon
its also durable than sigmas too considering it doesnt break easily
wait, no extra rez charge during valk yet they kept the 10 second cd?
How i miss Sombra
The flight feels really whacky
Sry but Classic was Mercy Mass Rez
This was helpful
The abilities of overwatch classic feels more like hero abilities but overwatch 3 just feel abit dumbed down
Calling it Moth Meta but having no superjump :D
Probably newgen but superjump wasn't even a ability. It was a bug found after massive nerfes to mercy since she was too strong in the moth meta. Hope this helps
I just scrolled through all the patch notes and this classic event is the September 2017 patch while mercy gets her GA slingshot in October 2017 ):
@@HarryPropper I played Overwatch since 2016, Im making this comment just to highlight the fact that they called it this way but since it was a bug and that they implemanted it to the game, they also removed the og way to do it (that is why you can do it but pressing jump doesnt launch you)
Im being sarcastic here cause I played mercy for almost 10 years now, so I know this isnt moth meta and not even Mercy back then...
@@Ravioli43 yh but sj was still able to be done, it is just implemanting the sj that killed it since it was a bug... they removed the best skill mecanism of Mercy's gameplay and make us think, Ow classic represents the true gameplay, but I feel like plat player when I play the mode ☠️
Also GA is slower but anyway.
No offense to plat players, it is my way to express the feeling I have, like im not able to play fully 🥲
we just need to go back to this patch and start over instead of with ow2.
not instant res tho so not the same so not worth playing imo
NO ANA NANO MOVEMENT SPEED?👹
i think they got rid of that before doom came out. bayblade meta was AIDS! 😂
The problem is that most people are moved on and playing marvel rivals now,
wish i knew someone who actually did that lol most people i know ended up dropping it due to the terrible and clunky optimization. marvel rivals isnt even that impressive looking graphics wise and they still messed up with UE5
@@polar6066no its impressive lol
@@polar60661. the art direction is why it looks like that it’s suoooed to look like a comic book .
2. plays better than overwatch classic when they had 2 months to optimize it
3. is way more fun
4. every role feels impactful not just one is completely dominating and the specific characters that are can be banned.
why was it called moth meta?
Mercy. Her Pre-nerfed Valk ultimate enhanced all of her abilities. GA and Rez were broken.
1. GA: She had increased movement speed and fast GA flying all over the place at increased speed making her hard to hit.
2.Rez was instant (no cast time). If rez was on cooldown and you popped your ult, you’d get it back. This meant you basically had 2 instant rez abilities back to back with no cast time.
Mercy’s were basically flying around rezzing everything like moths drawn to a flame.
so this aint moth meta
Rip genji
I actually prefer og orisa and I'm a ow2 player
Ngl marvel rivals sounds kinda fun right now
call me crazy but old sombra was better. change how hack work to how it is now and the character wouldn’t be the mot annoying person on the planet. hack the target hack duration is 2 seconds long but give her a damage boost.
they still coping huh
Classic legit plays better than modern day 5v5 lol
me when the bro is wack 👻
oh. Hey ho
Boring.
This is the good, blast to play Overwatch i remember!! Still not enough to win against Rivals....too little too late OW2. You ruined it when you went free to play and started charging $20 a skin. Loot boxes were literally better. Free skins just for playing.
Ah yes the 20€ Marvel rivals skins are better because ... Gonner game