@@Vanilla_Icecream1231 That's not the point, at their peak they were the best PnR duo ever, even when the rest of the Jazz wasn't particularly great, Stockton-Malone kept them going. They also made two Finals together, which is more than quite a few duos on that list, even ones rated higher than them like Hardaway-Mourning, Westbrook-KD, and CP3-Harden. They're a solid B-Tier.
I disagree, I would put them higher than he did for sure but generally across nba fans the overrated/underrated nature of how their ranked is still pretty balanced
I can't believe nobody else is pointing this out! Move LeBron/Kyrie and Hakeem/Clyde down one tier because they won ONE championship together. You need multiple rings to be S Tier. The lack of overlapping prime for Kareem and Magic is bullshit. They had so much talent, so much synergy, and each contributed massively to FIVE FUCKING RINGS. How is that not S Tier???
Seriously, 5 rings and 3 fmvps between them tells the entire story. They were THE duo. How can a duo that won 5 rings be anything less than S-tier? That's madness. It's gotta be a case of he wasn't alive for one but was alive for the other...
@@SwagnerCountsThings Hakeem* but I kind of agree with that. Hakeem was the 2nd best player in the league in the early 90s and won 2 championships. He would have been easily the best big man the Bulls had to face and Drexler was a legit number 1 scoring option.
@@xavierb9061 tf are you talking about? Malone and Stockton literally made back to back Finals appearances, 5 conference Finals, and never missed the playoffs as a duo even if you discount Stockton's first few years when he was coming off the bench (that's 16 straight years of never missing the postseason). Wouldn't be surprised if you're actually Jacob's burner 😭😭😭
I think it’s spot on. Back in 2020, everyone said they wouldn’t win and yet they dominated. All of the players were damn good defenders. Like he said, injuries and poor roster moves keep them from winning more championships.
@@deebogaillard Yeah they were good, THAT YEAR. But they haven’t been at that level since, with LeBron generally slowing in age since the injury in 2021, and AD being either out or inconsistent since then. There’s a reason they’ve barely ever touched the 2nd round since then
If this list is going by their best season together, I can get the ranking, but having LeBron and Kyrie/AD along with the likes of MJ and Pip, Steph and KD, Kobe and Shaq is absolutely insane.
@@meep7895 just bc they're the dynamic dickheads irl doesnt mean they arent a good nba duo. they're the best pnr duo ever, both elite defenders and they made 2 finals
they have a sub 500 playoff record as the longest tenured duo in nba history.. the definition of insanity is doing the same exact thing over and over again.. the fact they never though about going in a different direction is actually insane
Stockton and Malone took Hakeem's rocket out of the first round before proceeding to sweeping a Prime Shaq w/ 3 other all-stars and Duncan/Robinson Spurs a year before Duncans FMVP year.😂
Well, they weren't exactly a duo, that might be a reason 😂 The only time McHale did something in the finals was against the young/inexperienced Rockets... He was non-existent in his 1st ring and a role player in his 2nd, so you cannot simply pick a guy who was good in only 1 ring, pair him with Bird and create a "duo" when those Celtics were a superteam with more stars. Same case scenario for the Tim-Parker duo, I see people crying that they won 4 rings when in reality, Tim won 3 of his rings with Parker being below average or non-existent, how's that an all time great duo?
One more time (for Rusty, who can't seem to understand how stats work)....Best year together #10) Hakeem/Drexler - (96/97) - 41/15/9 (GTFOH) #9) Steph/Green - (15/16) - 44/15/14 (🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣) #8) LeBron/Wade - (14-15) - 49/13/11 #7) Steph/Klay - (15/16) - 52/9/9 #6) Kareem/Magic - (81/82) - 43/19/13 #5) LeBron/Kyrie (16-17) - 52/12/15 #4) MJ/Pippen - (91/92) - 51/14/13 (6 rings and monster defense, arguably #1) #3) Bird/McHale - (86/87) - 54/19/10 (Multiple championships and great defense, arguably #1) #2) Luka/Kyrie - (23/24) - 60/14/15 * because 1 season is not enough to judge all-time, so if they don't get back to the Finals (and win), they'll obviously drop. #1) Kobe/Shaq (99/00-) - 57/19/9 The reason PRODUCTION matters is because most of the best years these "Duos" had were also with other players who were just as productive so it wasn't a "Duo" carrying the team, your simple ass just picked 2 guys off a really successful team and called them a duo.
Kareem and Magic's peak didnt overlap much, but LeBron and Wade's peaks overlapped that much more for you to put them above the arguable best duo of all time, despite having far less rings and years played together??? Edit: Bossman, Bron and Kyrie over Magic and Kareem??? It feel like you taxed Magic and Kareem a lot for one of their flaws, which is fair, but you don't do the same for other duos. Bron and Kyrie have 1 singular ring together, and you can say a lot of that is attributed to injury, which is fair, but you taxed Magic and Kareem for circumstances that were also out of their control
This is a pretty good list! You seemed tempted but unable to put Giannis and Dame any higher than C simply because they haven’t achieved anything together yet. Where would you have put Giannis and Middleton if they were the option instead?
They were better without J Will. J Will was like the 4th best playercon that team, honestly he might not be better than Bobby Jackson. Doug Christie was more impactful.
Rusty taking time off from his fried chicken training marathon to give the NBA record holder in assists and steals plus the third leading scorer in NBA history a C tier for 925 wins plus 2 Finals appearances and 85 playoff wins because if you aren’t shooting 3’s, he doesn’t believe you’re actually a basketball player.
@@tommartyn524 you can find astericks for any teams run. real suns fans wouldnt be watching this guy anyways. unless they hate watching. which is what i was doing. the people who agree with you are the same people who think we should break up our team after one year. think bout it.
@@Acoolyoutubename the booker era suns has never beat a healthy playoff team. I lost faith in this team in 2022 when the mavericks smoked us in game 7. I’ve been calling for a full rebuild for the past year. Booker ain’t that guy. The day we passed on Luka is the day this era of suns basketball died
The LBJ glaze is real. Magic + Kareem = 5 rings = A tier Wade + LBJ = 2rings = S tier??? Parker/ Duncan (A tier) won 2 rings over LBJ including 1 in MIA...
Fox and Sabonis over wall and beal? Also how do you go from saying Roy hibbert and pg13 were the only team challenging the heat and then put them below jjj and ja?
Yes, the Bulls famously dodged a big man and guard duo like Shaq and Penny by sweeping them by an average of almost 17 points per game and holding them under 60 in a game😂
Regarding the Rockets vs Bulls of the 90s, there was 8 opportunities for those teams to play in the finals. One of those teams failed to make it out of their conference twice, and the other team failed to make it out of their own conference six times. I think it’s a very tired “what if.” There’s no doubt the Rockets matched up very well against those Bulls, but please spare me the “Bulls were lucky not to see the Rockets” BS. If they were so good, they wouldn’t have been knocked out of their own conference playoffs SIX times. How can we look back and think the Bulls would be helpless against the Rockets when they were routinely handled by lesser teams in the west?
Tony Parker actually has a decent 03 finals considering it was I believe his second year. 14/4/3 while playing alongside speedy claxson. He had a coming out party that year in the playoffs vs the Sonics *edit* just checked, it was the year prior (2002) vs the Sonics where he averaged 17/3/2. It was his rookie year. He came out the gate decent/good
Dwight Howard only has one all star season in Houston and it wasn’t anywhere near his prime he thought he was Shaq or something but quickly found out what he was on the bench of other teams
Joe Dumars doesn’t get the respect he deserves for being the only non dirty player on the dirtiest team ever and still being the best defender on a team that built its reputation on defense.
A duo that deserves a mention is Boogie and AD when they were both on the Pelicans they for sure probably would be in B tier them two were just insane to watch attack the paint
IMO Luka/Kyrie & Brown/Tatum are just in the same tier. The only difference between them is the roster surrounding them which of course the Celtics is better last year. Legit could potentially be an iconic rivalry if the improved Mavs make it out the west next year again💯
Luka/kyrie need to have a few more years together as Brown/Tatum have had years of success together whereas Luka/kyrie is one year of success isn't a long time together to realistically put them too high at this point.
Thats crazy that you were at the game kyrie got hurt. Im an unfortunate bulls fan too and the tickets were shockingly so cheap for the playoffs for the bucks and its the only playoff game ive been to. Big giannis fan and rusty fan. So it was cool to hear i was in the building with both of them at the same time
Daugherty/Mark Price, Coleman/Kenny Anderson, Webber with either White Chocolate or Bibby, Tim Hardaway/Chris Mullin, Zo/Larry Johnson, Nash/Amare, Big Dog/Ray Allen were all duos that were crazy fun to watch playing at some point; I have good memories of all of them :)
@@inazuma3gou I'm a huge fan of J-Will AND Webber and definitely prefer this duo, but I can't deny (despite the fact that I never liked Bibby) the greater amount of success the team had with Bibby instead of J-Will. That's why I mention both duos. But yea, J-Will and C-Webb are both in my top 10 favorite players of all time.
@@minutmed33 I am biased of course because I hated that Bibby was such a good boy. Nonetheless, I think it can be argued that J-Will/Bibby were better duo whereas Sacramento was better with Bibby.
@@mastersplinter1950 Yea, Run TMC, I know 😁 Mitch unfortunately shared only 2 seasons with the other two; I'm glad the trio remains so emblematic tho, it's a testament on how great they all were.
i feel like putting lebron and kyrie in s goes against what you said in the beginning of the video. You said S tier is when both players are superstar level, when by your own definition of a superstar doesn't include kyrie.
"Don’t see how you can put Clyde and Hakeem Olajuwon in S tier for 1 chip but have Curry and Klay/Draymond in A tier with 4 chips together." And then, AD and LeBron are in the S tier for one chip and a plethora of mediocre seasons, which is just insane to me. The poor roster decisions are definitely on LeBron.
Im sorry but you said the S tier is for super star duos.. Cousy was a superstar in that era no matter how you swing it.. honestly malone and stockton should be at lowest B tier
Rusty, great video as always but you gotta group your letter cells there in excel and center so your grey cells are even on both top and bottom. The top being skinner than the bottom kinda bugs me. 🤷
Kd Curry is the greatest duo of all time. First and only time we’ve seen the #2 and #3 players in the world on the same team. And they proved they were great through winning chips in dominant fashion. Kobe was not in top 5 conversations when he played with Shaq. Pippen wasn’t either. And none of LeBron’s teammates have ranked above 4.
Your reasoning for Magic and Kareem is very confusing. You have Wade and LeBron as an automatic S tier, when Wade was only at his peak with LeBron for 1-2 years, just like you said with Magic and Kareem. Don’t use how good they were outside of the duo to diminish what they did as a duo
@@Bobsyagod Well yeah, the list is bullshit. He literally put Klay and Steph in A along with Green and Steph, and both "duo's" best year was the same one. I fixed it for him with numbers to show who was actually the best "Duos" in NBA history (although I did it on the fly so can't be held responsible for missing a few old time player combos). What's really funny is although he's right about Shaq and Kobe being on top, the clear #2 duo (by production) he has in the B tier. He also had McHale /Bird in a lower tier despite them CLEARLY having the 3rd best numbers to go along with multiple championships. Honestly I think he does this shit just to piss people off and troll for views. There's no way he could be that dumb on purpose.
@@SDesWriter especially when so many of his other takes are on the money and then occasionally you get ones like this where so much is off or questionable. Feels deliberate
@@Bobsyagod Come on....Stockton and Malone C tier? 3rd leading scorer in history, 1st in assists and steals? 2 NBA Finals, 935 wins, 85 playoff wins? And they're C tier? While Steph and Green are A? It's either a troll or he honestly doesn't know anything about basketball. Dude....Bird and McHale's numbers are 2nd or 3rd highest of all time AND they won 3 championships during the time the Lakers were so good they won 5. Where are they on his list? No way that's an oversight.
Kareem and Magic and Curry and Klay in A tier is absolutely outrageous and I know this guy is a massive Stockton and Malone hater but C tier is just unfair, those 2 made the playoffs for over 15 years I believe and made the finals twice with Mark Eaton as their 3rd best player in history who was a good rim protector but that's about it, that alone should put them in B, I feel like if Malone wasn't a piece of shit person, people wouldn't be so quick to call them overrated, which I understand, Malone is a disgusting human being.
Bron and Kyrie in S tier while Timmy and Tony in A tier is a wild ass take imo. Forget talent, I care about results more than anything else and 1 Ring and significantly less regular season success =\= 4 rings and over a decade of regular season excellence. KD and Kyrie also deserve E or F tier for the disaster that was their Nets team.
He values fit heavily, Kyrie and Luka will just never be an ideal duo in that sense. They can play off each other well but neither of them cover the other’s weaknesses in any facet.
Tatum and Brown have played 107 playoff games together, 14-5 in playoff series together, and won a championship. Luka/kyrie might be better but they need to have multiple years of success together instead of one successful season together for me to put them ahead of brown and tatum.
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How could you possibly forget Kuzma and Poole bro ??
Fax
He doesn't have SS tier so no point in mentioning them
@@lazarmilosavljevic137 oh shi you right.
@@mathis8007 i see two rings between them. Pretty clearly S-tier
i know you are trolling, but he has monroe and drummond as duo so yeah why not
Rusty if you did a video covered in baby oil… that would be cool I think
Nice try Diddy
Aye aye aye run for your life
Diddy snuck a phone up his ass
Didn’t you get arrested?
Should he do it clothed or nah?
Ok I don’t like EDP and The Assist merchant as much as the next guy guy but C tier is kinda ridiculous
Yeah he’s a big Stockton and Malone hater
@@adilhoxha5443 me too but damn 😂😂
This is why you really can't let issues outside basketball affect how you think of players AS players.
Ranking Stockton-Malone that low is stupid
@@greekifreekifan870what did they win though? Like what did they really accomplish
@@Vanilla_Icecream1231 That's not the point, at their peak they were the best PnR duo ever, even when the rest of the Jazz wasn't particularly great, Stockton-Malone kept them going.
They also made two Finals together, which is more than quite a few duos on that list, even ones rated higher than them like Hardaway-Mourning, Westbrook-KD, and CP3-Harden.
They're a solid B-Tier.
Stockton and Malone are starting to become the most underrated players in nba history
I disagree, I would put them higher than he did for sure but generally across nba fans the overrated/underrated nature of how their ranked is still pretty balanced
Stockton and Malone at C is just straight up hating
How is tf Bird/McHale, Steph/Klay, Kareem/Oscar, Russell/Cousy, Magic/Kareem not in S tier?
kyrie and lebron over kareem and magic 💀 (hakeem and drexler over kareem and magic is ever crazier)
I can't believe nobody else is pointing this out!
Move LeBron/Kyrie and Hakeem/Clyde down one tier because they won ONE championship together. You need multiple rings to be S Tier.
The lack of overlapping prime for Kareem and Magic is bullshit. They had so much talent, so much synergy, and each contributed massively to FIVE FUCKING RINGS. How is that not S Tier???
I can get LeBron and DWade as a S tier, but no way in hell is LeBron and Kyrie an S tier over Kareem and Magic, Steph and Klay, and Duncan and Parker.
Seriously, 5 rings and 3 fmvps between them tells the entire story. They were THE duo. How can a duo that won 5 rings be anything less than S-tier? That's madness. It's gotta be a case of he wasn't alive for one but was alive for the other...
Ngl Stockton and Malone in the same tier as Derozan and Lowry is WILD 😂
And then he put Hakeem and Drexler on S because the Bulls "never played an elite big man guard duo" like wtf level of revisionists history is this?"
@@SwagnerCountsThings Hakeem* but I kind of agree with that. Hakeem was the 2nd best player in the league in the early 90s and won 2 championships. He would have been easily the best big man the Bulls had to face and Drexler was a legit number 1 scoring option.
The whole time I was listening to this I just kept comparing everyone to Stockton and Malone 😂.. C tier is insaneee
Yep after that I couldn't take anything seriously. I kept comparing everyone else to that.
@@joeknapp9162does Hakeem being better mean Stockton-Malone is not an elite duo?
I’m lost on how Malone and stockon are c tier but Jimmy and bam are b tier
Um….he doesn’t actually know anything about basketball. This is sn entertainment channel.
@@SDesWriter Am I nuts or has the quality of these videos fallen off super hard? Off season blues maybe
Finals twice in less years, ecf other year..more success in less time
@@xavierb9061 tf are you talking about? Malone and Stockton literally made back to back Finals appearances, 5 conference Finals, and never missed the playoffs as a duo even if you discount Stockton's first few years when he was coming off the bench (that's 16 straight years of never missing the postseason). Wouldn't be surprised if you're actually Jacob's burner 😭😭😭
I normally agree with you on a lot of your takes, but some of these are just so wrong.
Kareem and magic A tier is insane
lebron and AD being S tier is wild
I think it’s spot on. Back in 2020, everyone said they wouldn’t win and yet they dominated. All of the players were damn good defenders. Like he said, injuries and poor roster moves keep them from winning more championships.
definitely S tier
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Yeah they were good, THAT YEAR. But they haven’t been at that level since, with LeBron generally slowing in age since the injury in 2021, and AD being either out or inconsistent since then. There’s a reason they’ve barely ever touched the 2nd round since then
If this list is going by their best season together, I can get the ranking, but having LeBron and Kyrie/AD along with the likes of MJ and Pip, Steph and KD, Kobe and Shaq is absolutely insane.
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Facts
putting stockton and malone in C is just hating bro 💀
should be in F
@@meep7895nah, C stands for cradle so it’s perfect.
@@meep7895 just bc they're the dynamic dickheads irl doesnt mean they arent a good nba duo. they're the best pnr duo ever, both elite defenders and they made 2 finals
If Malone was a normal person they'd def be higher 😂 having KD and Kyrie and CP3 and Harden over Stockton and Malone makes no sense
they have a sub 500 playoff record as the longest tenured duo in nba history.. the definition of insanity is doing the same exact thing over and over again.. the fact they never though about going in a different direction is actually insane
Stockton and Malone took Hakeem's rocket out of the first round before proceeding to sweeping a Prime Shaq w/ 3 other all-stars and Duncan/Robinson Spurs a year before Duncans FMVP year.😂
Explain how you have bird and McHale in a team and have lebron and ad on s team.
Lebron glaze tax aka the lecheck must've cashed
Well, they weren't exactly a duo, that might be a reason 😂
The only time McHale did something in the finals was against the young/inexperienced Rockets... He was non-existent in his 1st ring and a role player in his 2nd, so you cannot simply pick a guy who was good in only 1 ring, pair him with Bird and create a "duo" when those Celtics were a superteam with more stars.
Same case scenario for the Tim-Parker duo, I see people crying that they won 4 rings when in reality, Tim won 3 of his rings with Parker being below average or non-existent, how's that an all time great duo?
@@Anton1oSainzalso if anything it’s always noted as a trio Duncan-Parker-Manu cuz Duncan-DRob is the best and better trio
One more time (for Rusty, who can't seem to understand how stats work)....Best year together
#10) Hakeem/Drexler - (96/97) - 41/15/9 (GTFOH)
#9) Steph/Green - (15/16) - 44/15/14 (🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣)
#8) LeBron/Wade - (14-15) - 49/13/11
#7) Steph/Klay - (15/16) - 52/9/9
#6) Kareem/Magic - (81/82) - 43/19/13
#5) LeBron/Kyrie (16-17) - 52/12/15
#4) MJ/Pippen - (91/92) - 51/14/13 (6 rings and monster defense, arguably #1)
#3) Bird/McHale - (86/87) - 54/19/10 (Multiple championships and great defense, arguably #1)
#2) Luka/Kyrie - (23/24) - 60/14/15 * because 1 season is not enough to judge all-time, so if they don't get back to the Finals (and win), they'll obviously drop.
#1) Kobe/Shaq (99/00-) - 57/19/9
The reason PRODUCTION matters is because most of the best years these "Duos" had were also with other players who were just as productive so it wasn't a "Duo" carrying the team, your simple ass just picked 2 guys off a really successful team and called them a duo.
Kareem and Magic's peak didnt overlap much, but LeBron and Wade's peaks overlapped that much more for you to put them above the arguable best duo of all time, despite having far less rings and years played together???
Edit: Bossman, Bron and Kyrie over Magic and Kareem??? It feel like you taxed Magic and Kareem a lot for one of their flaws, which is fair, but you don't do the same for other duos. Bron and Kyrie have 1 singular ring together, and you can say a lot of that is attributed to injury, which is fair, but you taxed Magic and Kareem for circumstances that were also out of their control
West and Baylor are a minimum A tier and putting them in B is an admission that you've never watched them or bothered to learn about them.
You can’t put a duo in A tier if they didn’t win a championship
stockton and malone are definitely b tier
Yeah, I get he hates Stockton's game and Malone's character (completely justified in the second case) but they were legit.
@@diegodelcid2235fr..
@@diegodelcid2235Malone character?
@@Justfrank_0 Malone is a kiddy diddler. . . Got a 13 year old pregnant and refuses to acknowledge the child
This is a pretty good list! You seemed tempted but unable to put Giannis and Dame any higher than C simply because they haven’t achieved anything together yet. Where would you have put Giannis and Middleton if they were the option instead?
I feel like grading duos on accomplishments is weird there’s three other players on the court the two of them can only do so much.
If Moses & the Doctor are S I think you gotta have Bird & Mchale S too
really flawed list, theres zero consistency
Yh magic and kareem being in A below kyrie and bron is laughably absurd
Stock/Malone at C is criminally underrated. Where is Jay-Will/Chris Webber?
They were better without J Will. J Will was like the 4th best playercon that team, honestly he might not be better than Bobby Jackson. Doug Christie was more impactful.
Jason Williams was a flashy role player that was inefficient and didn’t play defense. He was Jamal Crawford before Jamal Crawford
2017 kawhi was really his peak, if he never got injured I think the spurs would’ve won in the next couple years
yea, spurs squads around him defo could’ve been even deeper than the raptors ever were, we missed out
The Zaza play changed his career
Maybe. At this point Kawhi is best known for blowing a 3-1 lead in an embarrassing fashion
@@vulcanraven9701no he's not
@@imJB23 he hasnt done anything since then.
Drop power forward and center live tier list!!!
Did you listen to the intro
Hakeem and Ralph Sampson did upset magic and Kareem to get to the finals that year. Should be noted for both duos.
Lebron and Kyrie / AD over Parker and Duncan is actually mad bro tf you talking about 😂
Lebron,Ad, and kyrie are all better than Tony Parker and yes kyrie was/is better than Parker at their peaks.
Solid video with consistent logic! I really enjoyed listening to your takes
When talking about harden and Joel: if you didn’t execute you didn’t execute
Kd and kyrie: 🙈
putting steph and dray in a with some of those duos above them is pretty hilarious
Rusty taking time off from his fried chicken training marathon to give the NBA record holder in assists and steals plus the third leading scorer in NBA history a C tier for 925 wins plus 2 Finals appearances and 85 playoff wins because if you aren’t shooting 3’s, he doesn’t believe you’re actually a basketball player.
Thanks rusty!! Gonna hit the gym and watch this
Book and CP3 are a B tier duo. That finals run was special.
I’m a suns fan and every team we faced was severely hurt. It was a fluke run.
@@tommartyn524 your not a suns fan then
@@Acoolyoutubename I’m a suns fan. I’m not delusional. I didn’t state my opinion, I stated a fact. That was a fluke run riddled with injury.
@@tommartyn524 you can find astericks for any teams run. real suns fans wouldnt be watching this guy anyways. unless they hate watching. which is what i was doing. the people who agree with you are the same people who think we should break up our team after one year. think bout it.
@@Acoolyoutubename the booker era suns has never beat a healthy playoff team. I lost faith in this team in 2022 when the mavericks smoked us in game 7. I’ve been calling for a full rebuild for the past year. Booker ain’t that guy. The day we passed on Luka is the day this era of suns basketball died
The LBJ glaze is real.
Magic + Kareem = 5 rings = A tier
Wade + LBJ = 2rings = S tier??? Parker/ Duncan (A tier) won 2 rings over LBJ including 1 in MIA...
LBJ + kyrie = one ring = S tier
Parker + Duncan = 4 rings = A tier 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Ari19904 Agreed. It's disgusting.
Yeah this channel would be a lot better if he could stop tryna cover Lebron in Diddy's baby oil collection constantly
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Bruh, I'm saying. The LeBron bias is crazy. "Oh LeBron's in the duo? S TIER AUTOMATICALLY!" Shit is dumb asf.
Fox and Sabonis over wall and beal? Also how do you go from saying Roy hibbert and pg13 were the only team challenging the heat and then put them below jjj and ja?
Yes, the Bulls famously dodged a big man and guard duo like Shaq and Penny by sweeping them by an average of almost 17 points per game and holding them under 60 in a game😂
Regarding the Rockets vs Bulls of the 90s, there was 8 opportunities for those teams to play in the finals. One of those teams failed to make it out of their conference twice, and the other team failed to make it out of their own conference six times. I think it’s a very tired “what if.” There’s no doubt the Rockets matched up very well against those Bulls, but please spare me the “Bulls were lucky not to see the Rockets” BS. If they were so good, they wouldn’t have been knocked out of their own conference playoffs SIX times. How can we look back and think the Bulls would be helpless against the Rockets when they were routinely handled by lesser teams in the west?
Great video dude. Was wondering which tier you'd put Haliburton/Siakam?
Tony Parker actually has a decent 03 finals considering it was I believe his second year. 14/4/3 while playing alongside speedy claxson. He had a coming out party that year in the playoffs vs the Sonics
*edit* just checked, it was the year prior (2002) vs the Sonics where he averaged 17/3/2. It was his rookie year. He came out the gate decent/good
love the channel but Stockton and Malone in C tier is low key disrespectful
Dwight Howard only has one all star season in Houston and it wasn’t anywhere near his prime he thought he was Shaq or something but quickly found out what he was on the bench of other teams
Ranking signature moves would be dope
Joe Dumars doesn’t get the respect he deserves for being the only non dirty player on the dirtiest team ever and still being the best defender on a team that built its reputation on defense.
Why did you put Dwade and Bron as a duo? They wouldn’t have done what they did without bosh..that’s a big 3
You can say that with about 80% of the list...
Stockton Malone should be A and I don't even like them
A duo that deserves a mention is Boogie and AD when they were both on the Pelicans they for sure probably would be in B tier them two were just insane to watch attack the paint
wheres the power foward ranking livestream?
IMO Luka/Kyrie & Brown/Tatum are just in the same tier. The only difference between them is the roster surrounding them which of course the Celtics is better last year. Legit could potentially be an iconic rivalry if the improved Mavs make it out the west next year again💯
Luka/kyrie need to have a few more years together as Brown/Tatum have had years of success together whereas Luka/kyrie is one year of success isn't a long time together to realistically put them too high at this point.
How come you didn't mention Phi Slamma Jamma when talking bout Glide and Dream
Thats crazy that you were at the game kyrie got hurt. Im an unfortunate bulls fan too and the tickets were shockingly so cheap for the playoffs for the bucks and its the only playoff game ive been to. Big giannis fan and rusty fan. So it was cool to hear i was in the building with both of them at the same time
Daugherty/Mark Price, Coleman/Kenny Anderson, Webber with either White Chocolate or Bibby, Tim Hardaway/Chris Mullin, Zo/Larry Johnson, Nash/Amare, Big Dog/Ray Allen were all duos that were crazy fun to watch playing at some point; I have good memories of all of them :)
Webber/White Chocolate - A tier
Webber/Bibby - F tier
@@inazuma3gou I'm a huge fan of J-Will AND Webber and definitely prefer this duo, but I can't deny (despite the fact that I never liked Bibby) the greater amount of success the team had with Bibby instead of J-Will. That's why I mention both duos. But yea, J-Will and C-Webb are both in my top 10 favorite players of all time.
@@minutmed33 I am biased of course because I hated that Bibby was such a good boy. Nonetheless, I think it can be argued that J-Will/Bibby were better duo whereas Sacramento was better with Bibby.
@@minutmed33 Hardaway/Mullin was a trio with Mitch
@@mastersplinter1950 Yea, Run TMC, I know 😁 Mitch unfortunately shared only 2 seasons with the other two; I'm glad the trio remains so emblematic tho, it's a testament on how great they all were.
Gotta love all the triggered fanboys saying you’re blatantly wrong, but being unable to make an actual argument why your opinion is wrong 😂
Summer league Lonzo and Kuzma???
Nash Amare??
LeBron and AD S? But Kareem and Magic dont make that cut? Make it make sense, Rusty.
Splash brothers and showtime not being S is crazy
I hate Stockton and Malone but I'd still put them in like B or something. Respect for the hate tho game recognizes game
i feel like putting lebron and kyrie in s goes against what you said in the beginning of the video. You said S tier is when both players are superstar level, when by your own definition of a superstar doesn't include kyrie.
How are putting Stockton and Malone in the C list when you never saw them play?
How could you forget JaKuzzi and Poole Boy??
"Don’t see how you can put Clyde and Hakeem Olajuwon in S tier for 1 chip but have Curry and Klay/Draymond in A tier with 4 chips together."
And then, AD and LeBron are in the S tier for one chip and a plethora of mediocre seasons, which is just insane to me. The poor roster decisions are definitely on LeBron.
Malone & John should be B tier and if lbj & kyrie are S tier Kareem & Magic have to be S tier. They both won FMVPs together
Im sorry but you said the S tier is for super star duos.. Cousy was a superstar in that era no matter how you swing it.. honestly malone and stockton should be at lowest B tier
kawhi and siakam should be here.. one of the most underrated duos ever.
Bro in what world are Lebron and AD S tier but Bird and McHale are only A
anyone know what website he used for this ? i’m curious cuz i wanna do my own
Cj was def an all star level player- just a small market guy in a stacked west
Stockton and Malone are an A!
You’re a Showtime Lakers Hater
Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph
Duncan and Robinson
Putting DeMar/Lowry in the same tier as Stock/Malone is simply ignoring any sort of results
that cavs duo take hahah
Feels like Bird and Mchale should be in S with 3 chips but I get it
Man, I just... I can agree with ALL of them, I swear to God, but Kareem and Magic not in S tier... what else do you want them to do??
Rusty, great video as always but you gotta group your letter cells there in excel and center so your grey cells are even on both top and bottom. The top being skinner than the bottom kinda bugs me. 🤷
What about Khris and giannis?
shit that's a good one.
Hot take, Steph having 2 entries and not being in S once is wild work,
Khris Middleton and Giannis are S tier right? I haven’t watched yet
Actually insane putting kyrie and kd hugher than blake and cp3
Kd Curry is the greatest duo of all time. First and only time we’ve seen the #2 and #3 players in the world on the same team. And they proved they were great through winning chips in dominant fashion. Kobe was not in top 5 conversations when he played with Shaq. Pippen wasn’t either. And none of LeBron’s teammates have ranked above 4.
KD and Curry were lower scoring/rebounds/assists than Luka and Kyrie. Get Steph’s sweaty balls off your tongue and join reality.
@@SDesWriterwhy are Luka and Kyrie so deep in your throat lmao? Kyrie never been a top3 player in the world
KD and Kyrie at B tier😭 Not sure what they did ever.
Day 19 of demanding Rusty make a video on the underrated greatness of Raymond Felton!!
Your reasoning for Magic and Kareem is very confusing. You have Wade and LeBron as an automatic S tier, when Wade was only at his peak with LeBron for 1-2 years, just like you said with Magic and Kareem. Don’t use how good they were outside of the duo to diminish what they did as a duo
prime cj mccollum was definitely an all star level player, unfortunately both he and dame were traffic cones on defense
Dwade was hella washed on the last ring. Ur knocking Kareem and Magic down then LeBron and dwade should also be a tier
cannot express how quick I clicked on this video
i feel like steph and draymond really stick out in A tier and should be in S
They never would have won without Klay and were more of two people in a trio than a duo
@@SDesWriter and yet Lebron and Wade are in S despite Bosh
@@Bobsyagod Well yeah, the list is bullshit. He literally put Klay and Steph in A along with Green and Steph, and both "duo's" best year was the same one.
I fixed it for him with numbers to show who was actually the best "Duos" in NBA history (although I did it on the fly so can't be held responsible for missing a few old time player combos). What's really funny is although he's right about Shaq and Kobe being on top, the clear #2 duo (by production) he has in the B tier. He also had McHale /Bird in a lower tier despite them CLEARLY having the 3rd best numbers to go along with multiple championships.
Honestly I think he does this shit just to piss people off and troll for views. There's no way he could be that dumb on purpose.
@@SDesWriter especially when so many of his other takes are on the money and then occasionally you get ones like this where so much is off or questionable. Feels deliberate
@@Bobsyagod Come on....Stockton and Malone C tier? 3rd leading scorer in history, 1st in assists and steals? 2 NBA Finals, 935 wins, 85 playoff wins? And they're C tier? While Steph and Green are A? It's either a troll or he honestly doesn't know anything about basketball.
Dude....Bird and McHale's numbers are 2nd or 3rd highest of all time AND they won 3 championships during the time the Lakers were so good they won 5. Where are they on his list? No way that's an oversight.
How is kareem and magic worse than pau and kobe
Because he doesn’t know anything about basketball. This is an entertainment channel.
MJ and Rip Hamilton on the wizards.
Kareem and Magic and Curry and Klay in A tier is absolutely outrageous and I know this guy is a massive Stockton and Malone hater but C tier is just unfair, those 2 made the playoffs for over 15 years I believe and made the finals twice with Mark Eaton as their 3rd best player in history who was a good rim protector but that's about it, that alone should put them in B, I feel like if Malone wasn't a piece of shit person, people wouldn't be so quick to call them overrated, which I understand, Malone is a disgusting human being.
Bron and Kyrie in S tier while Timmy and Tony in A tier is a wild ass take imo. Forget talent, I care about results more than anything else and 1 Ring and significantly less regular season success =\= 4 rings and over a decade of regular season excellence. KD and Kyrie also deserve E or F tier for the disaster that was their Nets team.
Wheres Arenas and Crittenton? Dual Guns akimbo
doing a duo list and now showing Lavine and Vucevic damn
KD and kyrie in B tier is hilarious
Easy idea...do trios next
monroe and drummond dont count as a duo come on now
Kyrie has lost 2 championships due to injury, 2015 & 2021.
why isnt availability taken more into consideration?
Tatum/Brown are on a better team but they aren’t a better duo than Luka/Kyrie.
He values fit heavily, Kyrie and Luka will just never be an ideal duo in that sense. They can play off each other well but neither of them cover the other’s weaknesses in any facet.
Tatum and Brown have played 107 playoff games together, 14-5 in playoff series together, and won a championship. Luka/kyrie might be better but they need to have multiple years of success together instead of one successful season together for me to put them ahead of brown and tatum.