@@pranatisinha3458 Now why would they trash her vocals? They arent even a professional. Im a singer, and Moka is a bit off with singing. No matter how much you've trained, a straining and cramped vocal is common. Moka is still undeveloped. Shes singing out of her comfort zone/vocal range, and as a singer myself, singing out of my range is so bad. Professional/expertises is also struggling with comfort and vocal range. In her Lucky Girl Syndrome MR removed, she improved bcs shes more comfortable singing in that range. Still strained, but better. In RUNext, the performances given to them was mainly dark/girl crush concepts and thats when Moka really stood out. Its the company's fault and producers to produce a song thats out of the artists' vocal range/comfort zone, or the public and the coaches picked the wrong ones. Its mostly your guys' votes that made the wrong ones/undeveloped/not ready people to debut. Idk why you guys are yapping about now when its your guys' choices.
they performed in front of live audience during runext and have you even seen the whole show? They were practicing while running and jumping and were extremely stable. That song is the problem not her. The whole ssfwl performance was my favourite and it's hard to sing during encores cause you can't hear your own voice. 'It's accurate' no it's not. Y'all sound dumb. Half of you just watched runext on reels or shorts and decide to hate on the girls over a single encore and would later make videos about how you miss idols of old generation cause they used to have fun during encore. Moka was never in my pick list at all I was only watching that show for Chanelle and Jiwoo. I didn't like Wonhee but she can definitely sing (if you all ever decide to watch the show, she did make many mistakes but she improved a lot). There was even a clip going around during ssfwl of the two wonhee and moka jogging while hitting the highnote in the song. Just accept that Magnetic isn't the song for them and move on. You sound goofy as hell.
Y’all clearly have no idea what survival shows are like if you think the survival show vocals are the accurate ones 💀 they use heavy auto tune, heavily edit the vocals, and literally redo performances. The actual live vocals on the encore stages are the accurate ones
Seeing/hearing her only once in a song like Tomboy was a crime but she was exceptional in the bright songs as well. She makes performing exciting you'll never know what kind of Moka you're gonna get next. I'm in awe at her ability to understand songs fully.
I became a fan of Moka after seeing her performances for Magnetic and now backtracking to see her in R U Next...OMG WHAT??? Such a chameleon. I want more performances like Tomboy and My Bag from her!
Dont get it wrong but her voice was heavily edited in the show as well, her real voice is what you hear in the MR removed. Be realist, shes a good dancer tho but she only got in the group bc visual are more important than talent in the industry
Her voice in Magnetic is off because its out of her comfort/vocal range. What you see in the show, that the songs were mainly dark/girl crush concept and thats her best vocal range. Im a singer and singing out of my comfort range is really bad. Her MR removed of Lucky Girl Syndrome is when shes clearly comfortable and have a more stabilization control of her voice. Hope you learn more abt vocals after this.
Her vocal range just don't suit Magnetic, give her a break guys, she has one of the best stage presence the group, maybe she's just not comfortable with lower notes
nah the vocal range it’s not the problem, her vocals are bad, but ofc we still shouldn’t hate on her, it’s not like she chose herself to debut, and she’s not responsible for hybe’s poor training system, obv i think she can improve, even tho that’s supposed to happen before and not after debuting
she was so underrated and im so sad i only started paying attention to her after ssfwl/tell me but once jihyun and chanelle got eliminated she became one of my favs shes currently now my bias in illit alongside minju
Tbh hype gave them such a low range vocals which required lot of practice and ofc hype didn't provide vocals coaches for them in order to get a low range vocals so this is also a reason they can't use their full potential , but only r u next viewer know that she sing pretty good ❤😊
It's because hybe gave them a song which is not suit with the tone they are comfortable with, it was too low for moka..hybe didn't also provide vocal trainers to help moka with the ranges😢
@@BookieCookie636 exactly! everyone is hating on them but in reality they haven’t seen runext and what they can really do! for example lucky girl syndrome is a song in their range and they perform it so well! i wish hybe would give songs suited for them and/or train their vocals for more diversity
moka definitely deserved to debut , her facial expressions, her vocals , her dance , her visual , and the fact that she can match any concept is amazing.
she have a good potential it’s sad that she only did her best for the survival show like ??? she was a potential vocalist in ru next ? And in illit my girl literally can’t sing 😞😞 I’ll hope she improve more cause I know she can do better !
@@oliviaisnicole1835 If our voice vibrates in a high tone, that means we can't do it in a low tone? What will our voice be like, I don't know. But what is certain is that if I have a low tone, my voice will be heavy.
@@bwin8740I mean she does have a pretty good voice just not comfortable with lower reg. In R U Next, she seems very confident and comfortable with singing higher parts, but in Magnetic both her lines and chorus are super low which is her weakest range
She's literally best at putting a good performance and her expressions are always been good and getting better everytime with experience. Her rapping skill is decent. Her vocals can be improved with time or she can become like Ni-Ki. But she never been bad except for the vocal.
@@QuangToMinh-h8i atleast she's not hopeless considering LE SSERAFIM was a rushed group without proper training period they're pretty decent to me. They just need proper training let them get it.
@@AP-fi2diwhat part of her rap is decent? lol,illits fan not satisfy with lowering kpop standards now they coming for rap industry. and u wonder why ppl hate illits
No matter how many years you've trained, a song thats out of your comfort/vocal range can definitely make a change. Im a singer and singing songs thats out of my range is really bad. Hope you get to know some more abt vocals before commenting.
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コンセプトによって別人かってぐらい雰囲気変わるから本当にすごい毎回驚かせられる
What I love about Moka that she can interpret any type of song and execute it well. This girl can literally can flip to any form
@@b_nazirafathieelnino5858yup .. like at all 💀
@@b_nazirafathieelnino5858like sakura
@@b_nazirafathieelnino5858 💀💀💀
@@b_nazirafathieelnino5858 leave her she probaly sing better the you
God loves you! Repent and believe that Jesus paid the price for our sins! He can give you so much love, joy and peace!💕
コンセプト消化能力の高さよ
Рапероо
高貴な感じもできて、tomboyみたいなかっこいい女系もいけて、デビュー曲のようなプリキュアみたいな感じも行けてモカちゃんのコンセプト消化力すご
She killed every concept so well from the start of the show to the end. I'm glad this talented girl made her debut
now she killed us with her encore😢
@@hidayucantik8672so true 😂😂
@@hidayucantik8672how about you post a video of you singing?
@@honeybeebsyyhe/she doesn't get paid to sing nor has he/she trained for YEARS just to sing this horrible
@@pranatisinha3458 Now why would they trash her vocals? They arent even a professional. Im a singer, and Moka is a bit off with singing. No matter how much you've trained, a straining and cramped vocal is common. Moka is still undeveloped. Shes singing out of her comfort zone/vocal range, and as a singer myself, singing out of my range is so bad. Professional/expertises is also struggling with comfort and vocal range. In her Lucky Girl Syndrome MR removed, she improved bcs shes more comfortable singing in that range. Still strained, but better. In RUNext, the performances given to them was mainly dark/girl crush concepts and thats when Moka really stood out. Its the company's fault and producers to produce a song thats out of the artists' vocal range/comfort zone, or the public and the coaches picked the wrong ones. Its mostly your guys' votes that made the wrong ones/undeveloped/not ready people to debut. Idk why you guys are yapping about now when its your guys' choices.
Moka deserves it she’s one of my top pics and now she made it thankfully
デビューしてから好きになったけどデビュ前とじゃ雰囲気全然違ってすごい…
お人形さんみたいで可愛いと思ってたけどカッコいいのもできて七変化じゃん
In my opinion she fits like dark concepts
True
everyone in illit fits darker concepts except for wonhee
She can devour any concept
実力あるし何よりどのコンセプトでもいける容姿が強すぎる
メンタルも強そう
hi
シャオティン味のある強い顔に甘くて可愛らしい声に華奢な体で踊るお手本のようなダンス。ほんとにすごい逸材見つけた気がする
moka is my bias cause she’s so cute, her facial expression is really statisfying. she’s a literal true performer
I need an update after her live performances
@@championakali2253 The Songs are out of her comfort rage u gotta understand that.
デビューしてから知って今過去を追ってるからいい意味でびっくりしてる
黒髪前髪なし美しすぎるやろ😂
今のふわふわガーリーお人形さんみたいなビジュから振り幅の広さに推すしかない凄い子きたな😂
She was my main pick since the first ep, i'm so happy she made it 😭
She's a top tier vocalist in R U Next- what happend in ILLIT?
toned down the autotune
they performed in front of live audience during runext and have you even seen the whole show? They were practicing while running and jumping and were extremely stable. That song is the problem not her. The whole ssfwl performance was my favourite and it's hard to sing during encores cause you can't hear your own voice. 'It's accurate' no it's not. Y'all sound dumb. Half of you just watched runext on reels or shorts and decide to hate on the girls over a single encore and would later make videos about how you miss idols of old generation cause they used to have fun during encore. Moka was never in my pick list at all I was only watching that show for Chanelle and Jiwoo. I didn't like Wonhee but she can definitely sing (if you all ever decide to watch the show, she did make many mistakes but she improved a lot). There was even a clip going around during ssfwl of the two wonhee and moka jogging while hitting the highnote in the song. Just accept that Magnetic isn't the song for them and move on. You sound goofy as hell.
I think the problem is the song, you can perfectly hear how she's forcing her voice while singing magnetic. Her voice just sounds different
Y’all clearly have no idea what survival shows are like if you think the survival show vocals are the accurate ones 💀 they use heavy auto tune, heavily edit the vocals, and literally redo performances. The actual live vocals on the encore stages are the accurate ones
@@cosas_de_gatosdude.. it’s just magnetic doesn’t suit her voice.
Moka before debut : ⛓️🍷🏴☠️🖤👠💀
Moka after debut:👛🎀🌸👄🫶🏻😊💕
モカちゃんかわいい系のグループだから選ばれたって言われてたけど、コンセプト消化能力高すぎるね！デビューしてくれてありがとう！
Clear voice, pretty, can do diff concepts. So far I like her the most. Oh and she’s not a minor. It’s a win for me
She's not minor?? Finally i can watch the mv without feeling guilty 😂
@@Daniel-D97 Nope not Moka haha but Wonhee & Iroha are
@@llm412 another reason to focus on Moka fancam then 😂
Her vocal is so bad not gonna lie.
@@edelweiss2118 I wrote this before any live stages 😂
まじデビューしてくれてありがと一生推す
スクラム1番好き！
コンセプト消化力はもちろんのことモカちゃんに1番あってる気がした
オマゴルの5番目の季節の時のモカちゃんのビジュが美しすぎて…
She ate I’m glad she debuted she’s my bias❤❤
“she loves cats” and she’s so real for that
She caught my attention ever since the first episode, so glad she debuted! ❤
毎回違う雰囲気なのすごすぎる❤
That Feel Special group was phenomenal. Best performance of the show. I remember saying at the time: just debut whoever is in this group lol
concept master
Seeing/hearing her only once in a song like Tomboy was a crime but she was exceptional in the bright songs as well. She makes performing exciting you'll never know what kind of Moka you're gonna get next. I'm in awe at her ability to understand songs fully.
コンセプト職人モカちゃん！！❤
モカほんとに可愛い
I became a fan of Moka after seeing her performances for Magnetic and now backtracking to see her in R U Next...OMG WHAT??? Such a chameleon. I want more performances like Tomboy and My Bag from her!
I never changed my bias within a week but after seeing moka I'm in love
Stan moka❤모카❤
I can see why Hybe debuted Moka. She's really good in any concept. Moka should train more in her vocals.
ほんとなんでも似合う
she is by far one of the most versatile idols i’ve seen in kpop, and i’ve been around since early 2nd gen so that’s a major compliment!
she still needs to improve her vocal
Then your taste sucks or something cause she can't sing
She does everything, and Feel Special is my Favorite.
She can do any concept I love her
MokaのRUNextの舞台は当たりしかなくて大好き💕
모카 너무 예뻐❤
I think moka and haerin is same vibe and same little personality and both of them is my bias now♥️ (sorry for my English 😅)
Yess theyre like twins
Thanks for the compilation, Moka is really good and confident in her performance. SAIKOU! 👍👍👍👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️💯💯💯
The most versatile contestant, Sakai Moka
Dont get it wrong but her voice was heavily edited in the show as well, her real voice is what you hear in the MR removed. Be realist, shes a good dancer tho but she only got in the group bc visual are more important than talent in the industry
Her voice in Magnetic is off because its out of her comfort/vocal range. What you see in the show, that the songs were mainly dark/girl crush concept and thats her best vocal range. Im a singer and singing out of my comfort range is really bad. Her MR removed of Lucky Girl Syndrome is when shes clearly comfortable and have a more stabilization control of her voice. Hope you learn more abt vocals after this.
Acting like you know stuff but you actually don’t and look stupid is a summary of this comment
@@illitoutsold who are u talking to?😭
@@honeybeebsyy not u the original poster
MR removed🤡🤡😂
SHES SO CUTE
かわいいはかわいいでも1色じゃないのが本当に素晴らしくて好き
Her vocal range just don't suit Magnetic, give her a break guys, she has one of the best stage presence the group, maybe she's just not comfortable with lower notes
nah the vocal range it’s not the problem, her vocals are bad, but ofc we still shouldn’t hate on her, it’s not like she chose herself to debut, and she’s not responsible for hybe’s poor training system, obv i think she can improve, even tho that’s supposed to happen before and not after debuting
Nah singing her part in Magnetic wasn't hard it's actually not too low nor high she just doesn't have the proper technique.
モカちゃんはコンセプト消化能力に長けてるからもちろんのこと、アユネクを見てるからILLITが年数重ねて路線変更したとしても安心なんよ
SSFWLがほんとにモカの神ステージだと思う……どれも似合ってるけど
shes my top pick after funa eliminated but the amount of people discrediting her is crazy bcs she honestly one of the best contestant in there
I love moka shes so cute
本当になんでもできるモカちゃん
Dream of youのスタイリングめちゃすこ
moka gives me tsuki vibes, the facial expressions are immaculate yesyes😌😌
she was so underrated and im so sad i only started paying attention to her after ssfwl/tell me but once jihyun and chanelle got eliminated she became one of my favs
shes currently now my bias in illit alongside minju
She was not picked by the coaches, the coaches were just guests on the final, she was chosen by belift producers
Moka fits into any concept and she is really talented. She deserves to be in ILLIT
My bias 🥰🥰
She can pull any concept!! The girl that you are 😌😌
Tbh hype gave them such a low range vocals which required lot of practice and ofc hype didn't provide vocals coaches for them in order to get a low range vocals so this is also a reason they can't use their full potential , but only r u next viewer know that she sing pretty good ❤😊
モカ、全部別人みたい💦
スゴすぎる
I love her sm 😭💕
She's my fav from the clips I saw. She's always matching with the concept of the song
the following concept, really suits her voice just letting that all out and doesn't sound stranded😍🤩
MOKA is the best 🤍
透明感やばい！
When I watched Moka in RUNext I was absolutely in love, she could inch dance and rap but then in ILLIT she cannot sing and it’s so odd.
It's because hybe gave them a song which is not suit with the tone they are comfortable with, it was too low for moka..hybe didn't also provide vocal trainers to help moka with the ranges😢
@@Bambiiheee Yes! These girls have so much potential and Hybe really ruined it.
@@BookieCookie636 exactly! everyone is hating on them but in reality they haven’t seen runext and what they can really do! for example lucky girl syndrome is a song in their range and they perform it so well! i wish hybe would give songs suited for them and/or train their vocals for more diversity
@@danyelreynolds2952 I know! These girls have just so so much potential and Hybe isn’t even trying to use it.
moka definitely deserved to debut , her facial expressions, her vocals , her dance , her visual , and the fact that she can match any concept is amazing.
デビュー後のお人形さんみたいな感じとは全然違う！びっくり😮
she have a good potential it’s sad that she only did her best for the survival show like ??? she was a potential vocalist in ru next ? And in illit my girl literally can’t sing 😞😞 I’ll hope she improve more cause I know she can do better !
She looks like hello kitty🐱🐱
She is so pretty! Also I'm happy to see someone 2004 liner same as me
Honestly idk why is she getting all the hate. I mean she did really well in r u next but idk what happened after debut
She looks so different now that she's on Illit! It looks cuter and younger!
My favourite girl out of all! Love the rest however she’s a standout for me
She fits every concept well!
She really slays every concept
Moka sings very well and extraordinary, It's just that ILLIT's debut song has a low tone
Nah … that’s not even a good excuse. She literally can’t even hold a note let alone a low or high one.
exactlyyy!! people refuse to believe not everyone can sing low tone but they can understand if someone cant sing high note
@@oliviaisnicole1835 If our voice vibrates in a high tone, that means we can't do it in a low tone? What will our voice be like, I don't know. But what is certain is that if I have a low tone, my voice will be heavy.
She fits every concepts !! Impressive 😮
初期のモカもいい〜❤
i miss this moka who had a goddess vocals
Lol she never had goddess vocals. The vocal processing is so much.
@@bwin8740I mean she does have a pretty good voice just not comfortable with lower reg. In R U Next, she seems very confident and comfortable with singing higher parts, but in Magnetic both her lines and chorus are super low which is her weakest range
dang? she's so versatile
Ikr she's stable and good at singing. I think she was just too nervous during the encore stage. Ya'll are too sensitive🙄
😆
番組最後の方のスクラム→Feel Specialでやっと評価されて苦労したよね、、、デビュー出来て話題になってたくさん愛されて活躍してるの嬉しい👼🏻💞
Shes my bias
YESS IM SO HAPPY CUS TXT SOOBIN AND ILLIT MOKA ARE ISFP LIKE ME ❤😭
omg she was born only 2 days after Hanni of new jeans 😭 my loves!! ❤
Moka rap so cool❤❤❤
She is very versatile
Now I understand why they used backtrack for All perf… none of Hybe trainees can sing well they’re literally just backup dancers
trained for 3 years
i actually can’t see it
She's literally best at putting a good performance and her expressions are always been good and getting better everytime with experience. Her rapping skill is decent. Her vocals can be improved with time or she can become like Ni-Ki. But she never been bad except for the vocal.
@@AP-fi2di Vocal is the most important skill and "except" :)
@@QuangToMinh-h8i atleast she's not hopeless considering LE SSERAFIM was a rushed group without proper training period they're pretty decent to me. They just need proper training let them get it.
@@AP-fi2diwhat part of her rap is decent? lol,illits fan not satisfy with lowering kpop standards now they coming for rap industry. and u wonder why ppl hate illits
@@hinahina10 check her performances in RUNext program. Wait a minute! Y'all giving criticism without knowing them?????!!!
But her vocal abilities💀
Trained 3 years what happened to her vocal then ????
She can sing.. magnetic is just not her comfort/support range. Every idol has a comfort range
No matter how many years you've trained, a song thats out of your comfort/vocal range can definitely make a change. Im a singer and singing songs thats out of my range is really bad. Hope you get to know some more abt vocals before commenting.
@@honeybeebsyy fr 💀 like they should know that before they comemnt
I had the highest hopes for Moka.
Moki's vocals didn't deteriorate by the debut, it was just that there was a normal, tuned microphone and she could perform normally
she can pull off every concept
もかちゃん最高❤❤❤
She was underated during the whole RUNext? Show.
omg shes so versatile 😭😭😭
Oh they definitely gave her bangs cause they hate her😭, I wouldn’t even know it was the same person without the captions and title
What did she do for those 3 years of training? Does Hybe doesn't have vocal coaches?
watch the intro???
@@ducky3490Do you ever know that pre-recorded performance exist?
@@ducky3490pre recorded video isn't something to be proud of
i laughed a little when Moka was surprised😂
i laughed a little when Moka was surprised😂