Bricks Query Loop Builder - Is This Goodbye Elementor?
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Elementor Pro is the top page builder for WordPress but it lacks many tools - a Loop Builder being top among them. Bricks Builder has just released the demo of their Query Loop Builder and it rocks!
Could this be the one key feature that has many Elementor Pro users jumping ship to Bricks Builder?
Let's take a look at how the Query Loop Builder works and whether it is the final nail in the Elementor coffin for many loyal users.
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Bricks is awesome and promising. The founder is very nice and not a greedy guy. This type of founders definitely deserves to be supported. Glad I bought it last year.
I've been moving away from Elementor for some time now. Their emphasis from day one was releasing features and not so much perfecting the sofware, as updates continue to break sites or features. I purchased Bricks 6 months ago and happy I did....Thomas is a very skilled developer. Thanks again Paul for another great TuT
glad I picked up Bricks on lifetime a while ago, the development speed of Bricks is crazy. I love their public road map as well. Its great to know what's coming. They will have css grid coming too!
And so is the community and the sense of the developers really listening to what is NEEDED and not stuffing it with pointless crap that should be left to 3rd party add-ons. 😏
@@WPTuts DITTO!
Top 5 Wordpress RUclipsrs, Love this channel! More Bricks videos please!!
More coming. 😁
Plus, don’t forget my dedicated website for all my Bricks tutorials and more. learnbricksbuilder.com. 👍😁
Oh, nice to have a page builder that actually listens to their customers and community. I have no idea why Elementor don't think about this positive aspect.
Totally agree. Elementor is slowly but surely turning into money extortion scheme. Besides missing custom Query Loops, the most frustrating missing part is their non-existent MEGA MENU option. Elementor tutorial/help page will instruct you to use, yet another pricey (bloatware) "extension"/subscription service, from ((subsidiary shell) third party developer from India?), in order to enable the "Mega Menu" feature in the Elementor Pro. This is almost a deal-breaker for me at this point, since Elementor Pro is a very popular and mature page builder, yet lacks basic "pro" features.
Maybe the biggest red flag was their extortion level abrupt changes in their Elementor Pro pricing scheme. 🚩
Thank you very much for your "Bricks" Query Loops video! It was very informative and insightful! 👍
Good day dear Paul. This is great. As allways you provide creat content.1
You are so outstanding - contributiong a video right before the presentation of WP 5.9
Its so awesome to see a video that covers WP 5.9 topics : i mean topics, like FSE, Block-Theming etc. This presentation meets the needs of many many wordpress-users: 5.9 is so awesome and outstanding new - and here the community needs some amazing, clear and concise educational videos. Keep up the project
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!! Total game changer Paul. Elementor has a lot of "features" but there is a clear trade-off when some fundamental features like the loop builder are available natively. I personally do not (and never will need) lottie animations, so I'm not sure why Elementor felt it important to prioritise that over loops and similar. Great vid as always mate!
Game Changer.. because of a loop builder? Not hardly. True one has to look at a 3rd party for loop builder, which for me is JetEngine (which comes with so much more power) there is no way possible Bricks can measure up to that AT THIS POINT. And until the plugin / 3rd party tools ecosystem grows substantially for Bricks it will never surpass or come close to Elementor.
@@bmizzle010 Spoken like a true Elementor fanboy!
Thanks Paul for this Bricks update. I bought it based purely on how excited you were about it. Looks like Bricks is becoming an amazing page builder! I will be taking the time to build a new project using It instead of Elementor (my go-to).
Paul, thanks for this video. A Bricks update like this is definitely a GREAT thing. I really need to take a serious review of all the features to get back up to speed on what Bricks can accomplish.
I took the plunge and bought it just to have it since it was so cheap before the price hike. Was already moved over to Oxygen for the most part, and I've been playing around with this already. Things are looking pretty good. I'm hoping for 'grid' to be coming as well soon, and I might start taking this for production runs. Thanks for your take on this!
After using Bricks for awhile, how do you like it compared to Oxygen? Are there any noticeable lacks, or areas where it shines?
Brilliant demo - thanks Paul. I'm so jealous that I can't get my hands on that yet. Meantime Mr C, it would be great to see a fresh review of Bricks Woo features. I don't know if there's much in the new 1.3.7 release in that area but Bricks Woo filters that were (or are) so promising need some scrutiny and nudging in the right direction as they're not quite usable yet, I don't think, except for very simple unrelated filtering - but can't wait to test the new loop-builder on the product lists, product category loops and cross-sells etc. Great job on the loop-builder from the Bricks team meantime and in the demo - thanks bud.
Thanks Paul. I should think your effort here will go a long way to waking them up. For sure they understand your influence. This vid will cost them thousands in lost revenue. To be honest, they do appear to have started their own loss of industry position with the change in pricing. People are looking at alternatives .
I'll bet they now wish they had listened to you when you tried to tell them all year what we need and want. And they gave us Lotties and equal columns.
Serves them right for putting more effort into figuring out how to rest on their laurels and continue to gouge the up and coming small pro devs working on tight budgets.
Good on you.
I wish I did have some form of influence over their decision making. Sadly, I feel Elementor have a roadmap laid out in front of them that focuses on new customer acquisition over happy customer retention. Since they took the VC investment, my feeling is the direction and the focus of the company shifted and now it's about the numbers and not the product.
While there are a lot of features in Elementor Pro I really enjoy using, the constant addition of useless (IMO) crap and the avoidance of the tools many feel are important, means that for me, it's lifespan is getting shorter every release.
I've already moved away from using it on my own main projects in favour of a simplified stack that doesn't use any PBs and this is something that makes updates and maintenance easier and less stressful.
@@WPTuts We feel the same way about Brizy.
Elementor was a big NO for us a few years ago UNTIL we discovered "Anywhere Elementor Pro" - which adds a Loop Builder to Elementor. We've been using it for at least 4 years and love it.
Thanks for the amazing videos though - we're super keen to see the progress of Bricks Builder though - looks like it gaining a large fan base!
Fantastic video as always Paul. This looks great. However, I have spent so much time becoming proficient at Elementor and a few addons that I would be reluctant to change. Brilliant to know what other options are out there though.
Kadence does this too along with most other block editors now, as I recall. 2022 is the death ☠️ of all page builders!
Great video as always!!!
I'd have to disagree with you there sorry Aaron. While Page Builders are not for everyone, they have a place in the WordPress ecosystem and until any form of Gutenberg block editor can replace the ease of use and actual WYSIWYG nature of the experience, they aren't going anywhere. :)
We are a third through 2022. Not seen any dying yet. When will this phenomenon occur exactly?
They now should make filter and serch for this Query Loop Builder. This can replace a bunch of plugins and would worth more than 1k USD IMHO.
Glad to have Bricks. Good job
I love your work!!! 😀👍
I just bought the bricks builder a few days ago to test the speed and possibilities. I was not even aware of this query builder feature and was hoping that Crocoblocks will move in. But this query builder built in option is already a pretty good start for me. Thanks
I switch to something new when it seems like the current tools are becoming a hindrance. It's always great to know what's out there - and to fiddle around with them (it can spark new ideas for design & workflows, etc.).
Cooool. It looks like webflow CMS. I should try the bricks. Thx alot Paul.
difficult to change when we have invested already so much in plugins made for elementor (crocoblock, etc etc)
I'm sad I jumped headlong into Brizy and gave them so much money when their builder has so many hidden bugs and flaws which they have said themselves will not be addressed anytime in the future.
@@agoogleuser2081 Yes, I too am hugely disappointed in that Brizy is falling by the wayside. It has such potential, but I think the developers are concentrating on their cloud version that it will never be more than simple brochure sites.
Thanks much on your thoughtful videos. I wish if you can make a video comparing cons and pros of websites with Elementor and Bricks. I would like to see the most important differences esp when it comes to speed and google rating.
Looks good, but I think I'll stick with Elementor Pro + JetEngine :)
Who needs page builders? Wp api + jet engine.
Hi Paul, I hope the Elementor dev team are listening LOL
Now, wouldn’t that be a thing. Lol
Wow, I had no idea this tool existed! Like others on this thread, I'm invested heavily into the elementor toolset and "way of working".
However, I love their lifetime licence model for early birds, so I feel I should support this project anyway and getting an unlimited lifetime licence now could be a great investment down the line if this tool starts to dominate.
I stay by Elementor. 1. Much easier for customers to change little things. 2. in combination with crocoblock it is still much better than Bricks.
1. Depends on customers basic WP knowledge and willingness to learn "how-to"
2. Any additional paid "must-have" extensions, that enables you some essential "pro" features, like Mega Menu option, is a red-flag for Elementor Pro future.
I hope that I'm wrong.
Are you really depending on a third party company (Crocoblock) to stay in business as long as Elementor Pro does, in order to keep your clients websites in working order?
Just picked up Bricks yesterday. I think using Bricks in 2022 will be a possibility for certain client websites. Elementor will still be my main builder of choice, but for how long?
You are the Best Paul 👊👊👊
Great video as always. I bought also Zion Builder, and lately, I'm starting to dig it more than Bricks.
What stands out with Zion in contrast to Bricks (or Oxygen if you know)?
Nice ! Job!
I can see me switching to Bricks. If it’s faster than Elementor and if it’s easier to code your own widgets for it.
You do not need to use Emenetor pro for dynamic functions. The free version has it too but you have to unlock it with the Kava theme for example. But I thank you for this video. I can't wait for you to upload something again 👍
We can use both according to client needs. I would be happy to learn brick
I am a big fan of elementor but this builder looks stunning. Lots of things can't be done in elementor and they need separate widgets . With this it can be done in just 1 widget
Are page structures created by Bricks better than those created by Elementor?
If you’re referring to DOM size, then yes it is much better than Elementor.
Brilliant tutorial! Thank you!
Paul, I’m trying to convert some of my basic clients site’s over to Bricks. I was fortunate and jumped on the LTD deal they offered before they changed their pricing structure.
This is a massive improvement and can’t wait for it to hit live. I’m still hopeful they’ll develop and integrate a modal builder before too long, which will make Brick’s basically the king 👑 of page builder’s IMHO!
Hi Paul, I’ve used Elementor for a few years and have a lot invested into it site wise, but bricks has really peaked my interest. I’ve got a few page speed issues with an elementor site as it really does load the kitchen sink on page load. Time to investigate bricks I think.
I'm curious how Bricks compares to Oxygen. Has anyone compared them?
Interesting. I dont see the need to move from Elementor just yet. Surely they will make loop building native this year...? Quite happy to use 3rd party plugin for loops, but this builder looks like something to keep an eye on!
Hey Paul, this was ground breaking... And the potential is huge!! Do you have a Bricks purchase link for their lifetime offer? Thanks 👍🏽
No purchase link I’m afraid. They don’t currently do an affiliate thing, so just go ahead and grab the Ltd from the site directly. 👌🏼👍😁
@@WPTuts sounds like a plan 😁 thanks
Is the Loop builder a little like Jet Listings with Elementor and croco?
Prediction: Give it a year or two, Bricks Builder has grown popular, large and unruly, and people are complaining about long turnarounds for new features - and suddenly a new option shows up doing «everything» and updates almost daily - repeat loop. Personally I think it’s too soon to write Elementor of as yesterdays news, probably they are working on a shake-up for 4.0 rather than plug som half ass feature into their existing «rig» :)
This is the way. 😉
This is really a game-changer!
I only stick to Elementor because of the active development of the third-party plugins that support it. The irony!
Well, I almost bought Oxygen but now I'm going Bricks all the way. Less fuss, less code and more production.
Muchas gracias.
oh man i wasn't buying a new page builder this morning, but this has been a frustration with elementor
This looks good, but i'm good in Elementor. Would you which from element or to bricks?
A lot has been added to Bricks since this video which makes even more viable.
Switching would depend on the project. I’m not married to a single tech stack and will happily use the right set of tools for the job. If that is Bricks, I’d happily build the site with it. 😁
My answer:
Jet Engine!
Greetings from Colombia
Just bought it ! farewell elementor !
Great video Paul. Just noticed your mouse pad. Is it a keeper - or are you just testing? Could you share a name or a link to it?
It’s the Apple Magic Trackpad. I’ve got 3 of them and they are great. I can’t use a mouse on the Mac, I’m just too used to all the gestures.
It's not only goodbye Elementor. It's also goodbye Brizy. Bricks is amazing in the way they truly listen to their users. Brizy not so much. Brizy is much more arrogant. Bricks has accomplished more in a few months than Brizy has in years.
can we already use query relationships???. It will be enough for me and would be the final step for switching to bricks. Thanks Paul :)
Gotta admit your demo here of Bricks did look really snappy and responsive! Sorry, but a loop builder isn't even remotely enough of a reason for me to jump ship on Elementor + JetEngine.. there is just wayyyyyy too much functionality with that combo, including loop builder.
totally agree. People are getting too carried away with some of this.
@@jamesdavis8731 I think that really depends on what you value in a page builder.
If you are happy using 3rd party tools or have no need to create your own loop layouts, then this isn't a very important feature for you specifically.
However, for me and many others, that reliance on 3rd party addons to fill in an important part of what Elementor should be offering could well be a game changer.
Bricks is amazing.
Brilliant!
Can you please make a detailed tutorial about Bricks? could be perfect
I did not see a query builder option for a carousel or tabs in the blog. Is that a thing yet? I seen slides and accordion.
This is on beta version. Bricks sent an email as to how to download it. But not present on the stable version.
As an agency with over 70 sites built with Ele, changing builders is a bit like changing banks, it's a pain it the arse. To change builders now would require two licences because which client would be willing to pay for an ele site to be ported to Bricks?
I agree that it is a PITA to change tools, but as for sustaining 2 licenses, Bricks is currently offering a lifetime deal on unlimited websites. So, the investment could easily be made back on a single page website for a client as opposed to the likes of Elementor and the annual subscription.
At the end of the day though, the licenses are a cost of doing business and I'm sure you're factoring that into the annual renewals with your clients. :)
@@WPTuts Dude stop telling people to jump to another PB. Like the OP said, its a PIA, time and money consuming and reflects poorly on the client side to ask them to buy a new license because we are rebuilding their site just because.
I expected better from you Paul tbh. But it seems you keep jumping from bricks to oxygen to kandance in order to find the perfect replacement for elementor, which you havent. Which tells me, elementor is still the best.
@@WPTuts Valid points Paul. I wasnt aware of the Bricks LTD. Thanks for responding.
@@MadnessInsanityful I don’t tell anyone to do anything. I give an objective opinion which is entirely up to the reader or viewer to do with as they choose.
As for jumping to Oxygen or Kadence, I think you have me confused with someone else.
I’ve never (to my recollection) recommended anyone to leave Elementor for Oxygen and I’ve openly said I’m not a fan of the Kadence theme. 🤷🏼♂️
nice! did you build a complete job board with wordpress?
Think this is more a matter of goodbye Oxygen. It will be tough to fight against the Elementor marketing machine for the time being.
Just a matter of time.
Nice video bro
Wow! Now we're talking!!!
Nice, its great :)
Comments here are a very nice tutorial as well :-) Thank You Guys!
Bricks does indeed look promising. Jumped on the Ltd about a week ago.
Once phase 2 of woo support is in it will be very interesting.
But, would love to see native filters, search and much better control of things like the account page (support for endpoints added by things such as subscriptions)
The way I look at it is that if Bricks has come this far in around 10 months, imagine where it 'could' be in 2-3 years from now. 😀
@@WPTuts by that time Elementor will be compatible with VR! 😉
how to make the posts on archive page 3 per row? horizontoally
looks very similar to the Tatsu builder?
I was thinking in my video, to say that I manage to beat you to the Query Builder video. PS: I have send you an email about Live collaboration.
Lol, you did beat me to releasing the video.. I saw yours after I finished editing mine for release today. ;)
I'll be in touch about the love collab once I get back on track ready to do some streaming (soon). We'll get a date in the diary then ;)
Paul, has there been any word on when this will actually drop into the full working version of Brick’s?
Not yet, but they don't usually take too long once the public beta is released.
Sorry not yet :) Elementor still more powerful, but could try Bricks in test enviroment :)
Consider to Piotnet Bricks Addons
Maybe we'll all soon witness "Brixit" from Elementor Pro eco-system 🤔
🤣
I can't wait to ditch Elementor - still don't think Bricks is ready to replace all my client sites running Elementor
Lol... I still wonder why people still make comparisons with Elementor. I couldn't support it for more than one project due to its limitations and compromise. When a company is money driven they posses similar xters to Elementor. Now they have real competitors and thins are about to get tight for them.
I know the rumours concerning brinks, and if it's true then it's gonna be the no. 2 on the list, If not no.1 - we've got more no-code folks than the low-code and coders. You dig??😅
Bricks prices are better , I think with more time Bricks will be better than Elementor
the biggest problem of switching to other builders is the plugins/extensions and big community of Elementor
I'm so tired of Elementor. I have to depend on third party tools for every basic feature that it should have built-in given the money we're spending on it. For a blog for example, you have to install Custom Loops plugin. Elementor has every trash built-in(& continue to introduce new garbage) except the useful widgets.
Low hanging fruit for perceived ongoing improvement! 😉
*************LAST DAY FOR BRICKS LIFETIME*************
I wonder if bricks are able to loop through the "acf repeater fields"
I don’t believe so yet. Hopefully, this will be added in the future.
@@WPTuts Thank you for your quick reply my dear urchin
Can someone tell me how this is different than making a page template in Elementor and then use a shortcode? I feel like I'm doing this a lot already in Elementor Pro.
@@IDonThaMon I understand that, but the contents of the video show nothing that I can't do right now. Maybe that's what is confusing me
Any builders speedtest comparison?
Watch Jack Cao Yt. He did one for old school and another vid for new school pb.
Spoiler: Bricks the best of all in therms of speed. Oxygen was similar.
My point: If this is created in Elementor I definitely would stick with elementor or if things like Gutenberg or jet engine & crocoblock implement this again I wouldn't trip on it. I just hope every other thing gets implemented or fixed.
After woo phase 2 and popup builder we can say goodbye elementor
It definitely opens up a lot of potential to move a lot of use cases over to Bricks.
@@WPTuts and here's another, the bricks are 50% compatible with the jet engine
Why should i buy this builder instead of Oxygen, when this one is very clear is a copy of Oxygen? The UI is somewhere between Oxigen and ELementor.
No one is suggesting that you should buy anything. This is more about features that are important if you want to build more custom websites and don't want to rely on 3rd party tools.
If you're happy with o2, stick with o2. There's no arm twisting here. 😉
It's actually - just like Oxygen - a copy of Webflow. And you will have to be blind and prejudiced to not see the difference in the quality of the UI, stability, and backend speed between Oxy and Bricks. I think Bricks is what Soflyy intended to do when creating Oxygen. A better coding team just did it, well, better.
Personally, I need Bricks to get a few more features done, like CSS-grid and conditional display logic, before I move over from Oxygen, but I see it more and more as a likely scenario. I have a hard time understanding how one could not see this as a superior piece of software compared to clunky and buggy Oxygen (and I love Oxygen and use it for most of my projects).
Would love to move away from elementor! Their support is practically non-existent, as in, not really helpful.
Really looking into Bricks!!
this nice, but not so nice as crocoblock. And the new relations are as good as toolset right now.
Gonna stay with Elementor, easier to hand over to customers.
Yes but Brick does not have a free trial they need people to purchase even they do know they will like it or not, I don't think this makes sense if they need to compete with Elementor. also they are $79, more expensive than Elementor, did they provide same features? also with Elementor, you can use sections to create loops. Thanks
I can’t comment on pricing as that’s a subjective topic. But, Elementor does not offer a way of building loops. You still need 3rd party tools for that.
Something Themify has had for years now
Is Bricks Query Loop Builder Free?
No, Bricks is a paid theme and page builder.
What country accent is that?
Welsh 😁
ELEMENTOR IS A NIGHTMARE FOR NEW USERS
Oxygen vs Bricks!!!
At this point why not just use Gutenberg?
Try building intricate designs in Gutenberg and you'll see why. 😀
@@WPTuts I have Toolset so I can build any kind of loop w Gutenberg, relationships, repeatable fields.
@@robertturner2687 I wasn’t so much talking about loops specifically, more about intricate page/site designs.
Out of the box, Gutenberg sucks for design.
@@WPTuts thanks for creating and sharing your videos, they are great.
Just bought Bricks. Very happy to leave Oxygen for it… Elementor is a mess…
Does it work with Crocoblock integration?
crocoblock and the
Kava theme it might work but I'm not sure.
The single reason why I am staying with Elementor is because of the massive community. Bricks looks incredible and looks very lightweight. But if their dev team gets struck by lightning one day….so does my business.
Just to add a bit more…..the only platform I’ve considered next will be a headless setup. This by far has way more flexibility in every way, as API driven content lets us integrate with our client systems much easier.