Monterey County declares state of emergency over California battery plant fire; questions remain
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- Опубликовано: 23 янв 2025
- The fire at a Northern California lithium battery storage facility prompted a state of emergency in Monterey County and a special meeting Tuesday on the fire and ongoing response. Wilson Walker reports that while the fire has burned itself out, a lot of questions remain from locals about what next.
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Who would have thought that the replacement for gasoline would be an even bigger fire hazard?
Like the 2005 BP explosion in Texas that killed almost 200 people? All of these technologies present hazards. We either find ways to safely store energy or stop using it.
Those who are “conspiracy theorists”
Definitely not the liberals pushing this pie in the sky fantasy technology.
Look up lithium lto technology that wouldn’t happen if everyone use those and manufacture those or sodium ion batteries it is a way safer chemistry’s than that trash they are using nowadays
Does California know how much food is grown in Monterey County?
Think your state government will let you know if that food got contaminated?
Think of how much toxic pollution came from just that fire?
Gotta get your recommended daily intake of cobalt ;-)
No it's fine. Newsom said so
Newsom's horrible policies has basically set all of California on fire
Excellent point
Good think they pushed out Duke Energy from burning fossil fuel to generate energy. A battery storage is much better. Worst case; burning inferno every five years, mass evacuations, water contamination, and only 100 fold of toxicities into the atmosphere.
This going green is working out amazing
Which hill are you heading for?
I need to know so I can pick mine!
😂😂😂
"put it in deserted areas" Which means put it in rural areas where people didn't vote for this toxic disaster.
or in some cases mislead about the dangers of what is being built
I hope not, kinda like the lady said, it needs to go out in the desert where there's no people.
You have to drive a lot of gas and diesel vehicles, for a lot of miles to make as much toxic pollution this one battery fire has caused.
@@dave3657 Then you have to account for all the pollution caused by petroleum fires and venting of natural gas directly into the atmosphere during oil production and refining.
all that smoke and dust will be toxic
After working in Engineering for over 30 years I can tell you that *NOBODY* has ever asked us to make a quality product - they only ask that it be done before the "deadline". Note the term "deadline", it implies that if you don't finish in time you will *lose your job* . Don't blame engineers or construction workers for this fiasco- it's all about bad management and politics.
It’s called CORRUPTION and the people are too timid to say the word🎪.
Those batteries where 100% organic,gmo free,cage free,and fair trade all the good stuff 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
I knew cage free batteries would be a problem 😂😂😂
Lmfao😂😂😂😂!
Why is nobody mentioning the stupid engineering of these battery storage sites. Why would you
put these battery packs so close together and with no fire barriers in between them so that
when one catches on fire it doesn't spread to all the rest of them! Don't even need a degree
to figure that out! Also why so damn close to populations? Absolute stupidity.
These projects are driven by costs, deadlines, contracts, and politics. The contractor is paid to build a facility based on the contract. All the boxes are checked and the politician of the time gets the credit - that's it. If the contractor wants to go beyond the contract, he foots the bill on his own. You want to do that? All the engineers on the job *knew* the dangers - they were simply not allowed to do their job. The entire "environmentalist" movement is based on the same principle.
It’s insurance fraud. Only reason.
@@sammyjoe2390 Wait 'till you find out about coal mine fires.
Blind Freddy could see that. But Woke Greenies cant see past their noses. The newer Teslas ones are better,, but still catch fire for days. But do not burn out the one next too it.
Simply ban Li batteries for anything bigger than a power tool battery. And those with care and regulation.The technology is not there and possibly never will be.
Nothing like a green industry that is so CLEAN with such a SMALL carbon footprint. SMH….
Don't mess with what you have limited knowledge of stop the endless bullying
@@shambalkaran9258what a bonehead
This is definitely not hurting the environment as much as clearing brush and trees does. Just ask Gavin he'll yell you.
What about those poor fish? 😅 like it matters anymore
California shouldn't be regulating anything!! Fed government regulations. Way to political there.
And do a little dance with is shoulders, too!
“Put it in Nevada”. because extremes of heat and cold are so helpful to battery efficiency and safety. 🤦🏽♀️
California, once again, leading the world in cleaning the air.
BS, they know how crappy these government “financed” businesses operate. They want the money, and they are slackers on safety wherever deregulation of an industry is paid.
He's pretty much saying what you're saying, nobody cares about safety.
Money, Money over people's lives
Sounds like the Monterey County board of supervisors should be sued.
absolutely, who there got payola for skirting EI reports?? word of warning: this should be a wake up to ALL counites to check on your Boards of Supervisors, they have been flying under the radar while ya'll been fighting over Trump and Harris...starts in your OWN BACKYARD
More like sue Vistra Energy, the Texas company that owns and operates the facility.
Clean energy 🤭
Misnomer, it's renewal energy.
LP Battery systems have alot of recalls...look it up...Moss Landing has had 5 fires related to defective LP Battery's and hopefully they will remove the monolith of health hazard that is now in the environment.
LG , not LP.
It's been 4 fires
3 at this plant and 1 at the Tesla high voltage plant. Same location though. I know this as I am an electrician who has personally worked at this plant.
Rename it to Mos Eisley
The design of that battery facility was obsolete and would never be allowed with today's knowledge of how lithium batteries turn without any ay to control or extinguish them. Large open racks of batteries in one open building without containment compartments is a receipt for disaster when a thermal runaway occurs, like it did in Moss Landing last week.
They choose this over independent batteries. If one goes they all go. Just to spite Tesla. Coal plant somewhere, Idaho? will supply our homes for now.
These fires have depleted the years of clean air from E'Vs .
@@doublem6027 let’s not forget what it took to mine materials and energy to make them batteries. The cost of them even if it’s a private sector investing but you know tax dollars went in there and that’s our money. And now I’m sure some if not mostly our tax dollar is going to pay cleaning up all the mess and getting rid of the environmental toxic waste.
It won’t stop there because we will spend even more replacing them batteries with more and larger ones because we have to be carbon free while the rest of the world says hell no I’m not spending more money on this stuff.
Don’t say China is ahead with more Electric cars. They are doing it to make money not to be green. How can electric cars be clean when the power is being produced dirty with coal and fossil fuels power plants that not designed to be clean. At least my hybrid car gets 50 mpg and has a catalyctic converter and I run expensive formula gasoline mandated by carb in Ca.
@ CARB NEEDS TO GO, including NEWSOM!
Battery energy storage is not "the future". It is a 'green' necessity that has failed miserably. We need to stop 'green' energy and stop these battery plants from ruining the environment.
There's a coal mine fire outside Boulder Colorado that was burning for over 100 years. Uncontrolled coal fires have been starting wildfires for decades.
State of emergency aren’t really emergencies anymore seems like a cry for financial help from government it’s used for any little thing now
This isn’t a little thing..
@@mike7984that’s the scary thing, they’re trying to sweep it under the rug. This was the worse case scenario for the batteries and energy storage plant.
If they had actually asked people who know anything about engineering, it never would have been built!!
did they mention how incredibly toxic those fumes are??.
hmmm no...
suprising huh?
Most people don't realize at there's another Lithium battery storage plant in Nipomo ca. Next to Santa Maria right next to hwy 101. Santa Maria is Just 2 miles away down wind from this extremely Dangerous plant. Santa Maria has a population of over 115,000 people that may have to be evacuated in case of an emergency. This area is also a huge agricultural producer. This plant was quietly built . ... We don't need this in our backyard
As a Nevadan, I agree with the lady ! I used to make batteries at the Gigafactory. That factory being so close the the water and around people is extremely bad ! A lot of engineering went into the construction of the Gigafactory's including the ground and how chemicals are set tested mixed and drained, cleaned in mixers. I'm betting that factory's don't or didn't have the same federal or state/county OSHA standards and guidelines the Gigafactory had and was held up too. If their was a deep investigation im putting my money of corrupted politicians and community leaders that gave the licenses and admissions for the plant to operate.
EV’s are the D.E.I. of the automotive world 🍻🤙🏻
You've probably been exposed to some pretty toxic stuff
Lol...that fremont factory had its problems with Elon always attempting to shortcut OSHA guidelines along with building permits. part of my department managed facilities. can't tell you all the fire hazard and safety problems he had to deal with. i was fortunema i maganged remote logistics for Tesla. he had to deal with all the fallout😂
It’s not actually a factory, it’s just a big battery. Why they keep calling it a plant I can’t understand.
NO, batteries are not the direction we are going any more. People now understand how dangerous and environmentally destructive batteries are.
I live at 3000 and could taste a strong metallic taste. My headache won’t go away. Is the air quality being tested at various levels? No. They are looking to get clean test results !
So California, you still trust going straight battery power for everything. Start looking at stats on electric car fires. Be informed.
Stolen technology you never understood
what ever environmental protection that was intended is magnitudes worse
You get the government you deserve.
Lithium free batteries are needed and seem to be on the way. I love my little Bolt.
The California governor needs to resign, now!
This doesn't belong on a wildlife sanctuary. How can you build a plant of this magnitude, with the fire plan of , "Let it burn itself out ."
We don't want this crap in Nevada either
pretty much why some electric cars get banned from under ground parking lots underneath high rises
No, not acceptable. The power plant should get no money, none. Humans yes, corporations should get nothing.
Lithium batteries should be made illegal. Need a different battery technology.
I agree
Why do you put it by where people live? Because that's who is using the power. The farther the plant is away from people, the more electricity you lose in the transmission lines.
You’re right about location, but this plant was making the batteries that go into machines, not producing electricity with them there.
@@Sparklfoot Wrong. These batteries store wind and solar power to be used later in the day when there is a peak demand for power.
This was a battery power storage facility, not a manufacturing plant.
@Sparklfoot They were storing power in those batteries. That's a power plant right beside the fire. Please do some research. The woman at the end is your typical leftist. They want the benefits of green technology, but want the future Superfund site in some poor person's community.
@@SparklfootBatteries do not produce electricity, they release stored electricity.
Plus it was a generation plant for years, all the infrastructure was right there.
I would have to think that the paliside fire might have gotten worse from numerous electric vehiles that caught fire. These car battery fires cannot just be out out conventially.
Payment for your evil
@shambalkaran9258 not my evil
Don’t forget the decrepit power lines were maxed out trying to charge all these vehicles🎪
@E_Clampus_Vitus good call
@@E_Clampus_Vitus No power lines were maxed out in SoCal that week. The weather was cool. But the power lines are decrepit, thanks to corrupt utilities.
More than once, the comment was made that these batteries should be stored out in the desert somewhere, but the desert, at least in southern CA is being used for so many square miles of solar panels. Energy from the panels is lost in the transmission to the battery storage, so it is probably desirable, on the part of the power companies, to place the batteries close to the consumer. All of the pitfalls and short comings associated with solar power's dependence on adequate battery storage was highlighted at least ten years ago in scientific publications but nobody cared to pay attention. The final word in these publications was, there will never be enough batteries. Couple that with this current evidence that the batteries can self destruct
1:45 - LOL! But that's not stopping us from going ahead and deploying them at scale. This is what happens when you have government corrupted by corporate interests. Profits first, safety as an afterthought
I think the debate about lithium battery energy storage in prime ecological locations is over. They wanted to install these huge lithium battery plants all up and down the coast, and my town said hell no to your wind, hell no to your lithium battery, and hell no to your "states of emergencies".
Don't use the products if you don't want to deal with the fallout..like computers, cell phones, electric socks? (yes, they exist in case) Nice you're proud of saving your environment, now put away your computer and pick up a pen, try writing a letter by hand. I have trouble signing my signature these days. Knowing how to write, by hand, actually is becoming a problem
@@jaygray7102 apples to oranges, dont be daff
@@oops5015 quack quack ...
It’s not new. Even hobby batteries should be in a burn proof package during charging. Too much college education not enough common sense.
Green energy baby
Until they can put the fires out this needs to stop.
Move it to Las Vegas
Move it to Los Angeles.
Is it near the Monterey Aquarium?
Yes 19 miles away
@@ytb97 That's not that close.
Love the NIMBY.... as a Nevada resident, please keep your bad policies local....
What's the lesson from this? You double down and put in more LI batteries! Ain't renewable energy beautiful?
If there was ever a mirror image of the state government this would be it.
Not in my backyard!
Was the fire arson, also?
Most likely!
She said put the batteries in Nevada. Yeah, no. Your problem in your backyard. Price YOU pay for YOUR bad ideas.
This battery type is established technology with it's known issues. Putting them in large storage arrays is the issue. One of the Green Tech hoaxes revealed.
Who is in charge of the outside investigation?
Newsome
Vistra Energy ;-)
"It's the future". Sure. Stay with the poor decision. Typical California.
The good news is (if there is any..), every time this happens, those materials are forever GONE, and can no longer be used to build new ones. Supply is dwindling, and not sustainable.
Im all for battery technology for hybrid automobiles, motorcycles trucks etc.... but let's really phase out lithium ion cuz it ignites when it gets too hot, and it also ignites when it gets wet
Chemistry doesn't change. EV and storage lithium batteries are a forever hazard. They burn intensely and cannot be easily put out. No doubt the lithium batteries in the Los Angeles fires added to the persistence and ferocity of those fires in the neighborhoods that burned. Add to that the inevitably accumulating spread and density of lithium in the environment over time and you have a developing, continuing and growing health and fire threat to people. Lithium carbonate is used to treat mental disorders by the psychiatric community. What will it do to people as it rises in the general environment over time?
Never any mention about putting a battery park right next to a natural gas fired power plant.
I agree. Why on earth would you zone an industrial battery plant next to ocean front views like that? Stupid.
This was done to utilize the transformer yard and the high tension power lines that were installed years ago. They were used to distribute power from the Moss Landing Steam Generating Plant that has been retired due to exceeding the equipment design life. To install new power lines and transformer switching yard would be massively expensive. The batteries absorb wind and solar power and discharge it into the grid when it's needed later. Morro Bay voters just turned down the plan to put a battery storage facility at the closed down plant next to the Bay.
The batteries should be stored in an underground air tight bunker.
Nevada had the Pepcon plant, for years, in a desolate area, outside of Las Vegas. Paved roads and cheap land garnered the attention of real estate investors and homes encompassed the area. Workers moved in, with their families. A community "Henderson", was born. When the plant experienced a fire and explosion, people realized the current "accepted" protections, weren't enough and the plant was forced to move. The process, then, starts all over. Wherever these plants are, workers and their families will want to live near and housing will continue to surround them. Moving the plants to "rural" areas, reduces regulation and inspections. Better solutions need to be found
Move away from population centers and zone surrounding areas?
In San Diego county, in the last year or so, we also had a possible dangerous battery fire along I-15… I believe the issue was an over-heated HVAC units caught fire at an SDG&E battery facility. Fortunately, the power fire was knocked down, but was in a very populated area. What is the regulatory body of gov’t that would be overseeing safety concerns? 🤔
The only way to improve air quality is to stop having fires but that gets in the way of people with money on their minds
Why the f would they create such a facility without having a way to suppress such a situation immediately. They should have protocols in place. Shame on them for putting their rewards over the risks they subject us to.
hydrocarbons are simply better at storing energy. more than an order of magnitude energy denser than the bleeding edge of what electrical batteries can offer and they seem to be much safer to store
How did people get steep learning curve backwards?
People are worried about “air quality and safety hazards” regarding this fire while they’re eating so much contaminated foods and drinking unhealthy water but they don’t think about those issues being worse than any other thing… contaminated food and water are going straight into their bodies… come on!
Why not both? Food and water can be contaminated by what? Toxic chemicals. Lithium batteries contain what? Toxic chemicals
@@EffectiveMuscle All batteries contain toxic chemicals. The refineries in Martinez are constantly having incidents.
False dichotomy. It's a both, not an or.
plants love co2 they make a by product called o2.
sucks for the environment.
This guy equates cheeseburgers to toxic waste!😅
...RIGHT AFTER VOTING FOR IT!
Dont let these guys build these plants and destroy your Towns, your people , and your food sources
Why didn’t they build the storage facility over the water with a trap door, then if there’s a fire, open it up, and the burning batteries fall into the water extinguishing themselves…
Been burning for days, what took so long for the declaration?
Where’s Nuisance?
What started the FIRE?????
Who was the contractor?
IMHO, the battery facilities need the same safety rules and procedures as a nuclear power plant.
All of California IS a disaster! 'nough said! 🔥🤬🔥
Batteries aren’t green. Just the lack of emissions is green. But they’re dirty to make snd dispose of.
Who owns that plant???
Perhaps you should now how dangerous something is before you manufacture and sell a product.
People need power where they need power. They just need to make it a lot safer.
All the farmlands and any land is contaminated now. Meat is tainted.🤮
Going green is destroying the planet 😱
This has to be the most stupid comment I've ever seen on RUclips.
@ Stop virtue signaling and grow up, lmao 🤣
When politicians get credit for "clean energy" on a budget.
what went wrong? wrong battery vendor with lots of fires on their products
Vistra got some explaining to do.
Hold Newsom accountable for failed policies !
'saving' the environment one toxic fire at a time.
Toxic Change!
Li-Ion battery fire risks are real. Not sure why the plant didn't have adequate thermal separation/isolation between individual packs so when a pack catches fire, it can't easily spread to adjacent packs.
Li-Ion batteries have pretty high energy density, separating the pack by OSHA recommended 3' plus some in-expensive masonry or other types of non flammable insulation should be adequate to isolate the fire to a single pack. And electrical isolation of the pack once fault is detected.
Plus having adequate space around the packs would enable easier/safer inspection, upgrades, and swapping of packs, in the future.
Well as we know, PG&E is totally safety conscious, especially of civilian populations.
I'm sure they'll get right on it....
how about where nuclear reactors are placed? Or any number of toxic realities placed in our face. now our artichokes are slathered in Lithium
Why put those plants anywhere! They are not the answer.
Towers? They look like smokestacks
We need those batteries to save our planet.
😂😂😂
Essential? Says who? Obviously people who live no where near these plants...
Battery storage is NOT essential. It is a band-aid applied by non-electrical-engineers to make intermittent solar and wind more palatable, at a significant increase in cost. I bet these were Li-Ni-Co batteries, not Li-Fe-P. The less combustible batteries are larger/heavier for the same amount of energy storage.
Solar power is worthless without energy storage - you should do research before making comments.
Not in my backyard.