I always try to track my teammates heads when playing csgo or when playing deathmatch you just track and dont care if you get shot this technique is also quite good cause you ingame and you can practice crosshairplacement n stuff in realtime
@@WestProter many cs players i know concentrates too much on stairing trough the crosshair i find it easier to look at enemy heads and just place the crosshair and shoot.
this is so difficult in real games, I do deagle only deathmatch sometimes purely focusing on hitting 1 taps and not caring if I get shot and I'll win with like 95% hs, but it's just impossible for me to try to convert this into real games so I just end up with shaky aim and missing my initial shots then getting killed
@@kiiturii maby you place your crosshair too tight to the corners i didd this a while and had to swing everytime enemy popped out leave some space if you think 0.5 cm is enogh leave a crosshair more
Tracking training improves smooth aim a lot basically , I experienced that as well , I’ve seen my flicks improving as well with the tracking for some reason I can adjust better
Hi, I've always been a wrist aimer, and recently trying to get my arm involved too. When it comes to tracking, do you use your wrist or arm? Or can you use both? I suck at tracking even with my wrist, but its still a lot better than my arm, I really cant see myself using arm to track, I feel a lot slower with it. Thanks in advance
@@lolcsgomoments2547 i try to never use the wrist to adjust , basically track with the arm and adjust with fingers, by using a claw grip esentially, wrist will be involved no mather what in reallity, but i allways try to avoid using it as much as possible, i feel like that way i will avoid carpal tunnel in the future, hopefully (also i use 34cm 360 if that helps)
@@PabloCarballo88honestly it’s more accurate to use your wrist to track unless the player you’re tracking goes too far and you have to start using your arm. I found if you drag your arm down, only vertically, and use your wrist to actually track left and right. Using the arm to control the recoil and the wrist to track allows you to aim with your wrist while your aim is unaffected by recoil, because you’re controlling it with your arm which is separate from your wrist. U just gotta practice it and make sure you bring your arm on the y axis and your wrist on the x axis. It’s helped me aim so much, you just have to get used to it
@@idkijustgothere I changed my approach since my comment , I’m using a true claw grip now so there is no finger or wrist involved , so much better , and ur sense is just insane , if u move to a fast pace fps ur done , that’s fine for valorant or cs I guess
West proter, I don't understand why palm grip would be considered so much more restrictive to finger motion than claw grip. The only thing that gets in the way of finger motion for me is whether or not the base of my palm is attached to the mouse or not, which is it for both palm and claw. Unrelated but I'm also trying to switch off of a palm grip right now, i just find hard to do on my deathadder v3 pro.
with palm ur fingers on the side of the mouse are straigt and u cant control it that much. while with claw ur area of impact is way smaller and u get alot more control
@@TheNegationist I use "claw" i guess, and i can move my fingers up but not down because of the palm yes, but when it goes up it can come back down too. can also do slight adjustments horizontally too.
I was wondering if I should be relaxed when flicking or tense up? My wrist specifically, I feel more crispy and in control when I tense my aim, but I feel like that's inconsistent.
Tension is a spectrum, no tension and you can’t move, too much and you can’t move. Usually people try to stay close to the minimum to prevent injury though most who’ve tried to learn less tension after already hitting a high level haven’t seen major score impacts positive or negative from what I’ve seen
In wider angle scens (past wrist rom) you need to mostly use arm. For small angle stuff check out syw scens (smooth your wrist). They’re designed to take the space your wrist uses and no more
Think about why/how you struggle, sort the scenarios by tracking and find scens that emphasize that. It’s a bit of work, but it’ll find great scenarios. The ones featured in the video have a lot of variants to fit to your ability and usually searching the word “smooth” comes up with a lot of beginner results
@@WestProter i find that even if i lower sens, dont tense my hand, and get used to smooth aim, I will still randomly get insanley shaky. I don't know what to do about it D:
ever clean your room? First you take everything down, acknowledge the problem that things are in weird places and make the room look like a mess then put things back.
kinda goes along with the shaky aim theory but do you have any advice for someone that feels gun recoil through the mouse? what i mean is if i’m not shooting i can move my mouse and slow and smooth as i want but as soon as i hold down left click to shoot and track my whole hand and wrist begin to vibrate until i stop shooting
*sorry bad english press button lightly, dont put too much pressure since your wrist and and forearm become stiff... maybe what you should do is try to not panicking and hold button calmly while tracking (like when you not into fight and just strolling around map) usually i do is when not into shooting enemy, i just change to melee, hold my firing button down and tracking friend movement while strolling (by this you can even train your strafe tracking, if you play apex you can even train your vertical tracking somehow)
Sir i need reply pls my q is - i found my perfect grip like its hybrid finger and palm but in starting my hand was paining a little after playing 30 40 minutes it is normal ?
Ya thats 61g so pretty heavy imo. Look into sub 40 and sub 30g mice ig though those would all require a complete grip redesign, but it seems like viper mini isn’t great for you either. Idk really hard to say especially if you’re on a budget
Hey west I’m doing really good in siege I’m currently top 300 in the world actually marquetant is my gamer tag but I’ve been having another problem I feel like I always have to lower my sense like I can be doing great on 100 sensitivity for a example but the next day 100 will feel bad and I have to switch it to 98 to do good and this keeps happening
i always suffer because of a problem, i cant seem to solve (specially if i overthink). should i track with wrist or arm. also should i flick with arm or wrist? my sens is 46cm. valorant rank Plat 1/Plat 2. CSGO rank MGE
@@WestProter I play .9 1600 on apex which when converted to val equals .28 but thats shaky for me. So i am playing .2 on val. Any problem with using diff sens in games that will cause shaky aim?
The Finals is exactly why I’m playing aim labs. So hyped. Also struggling with a bit of shaky aim
Don't play aimlabs, it's too laggy.
Oh wow this looks like my aim
Same. I mean in warzone I can track in the air super well but in kovaaks it looks like this. 😅😂
@@ItzHatoradefr my aim so ass in cod but then I hit everything on aim trainers and fortnite
I always try to track my teammates heads when playing csgo or when playing deathmatch you just track and dont care if you get shot this technique is also quite good cause you ingame and you can practice crosshairplacement n stuff in realtime
I’ve done this too
@@WestProter many cs players i know concentrates too much on stairing trough the crosshair i find it easier to look at enemy heads and just place the crosshair and shoot.
this is so difficult in real games, I do deagle only deathmatch sometimes purely focusing on hitting 1 taps and not caring if I get shot and I'll win with like 95% hs, but it's just impossible for me to try to convert this into real games so I just end up with shaky aim and missing my initial shots then getting killed
@@kiiturii maby you place your crosshair too tight to the corners i didd this a while and had to swing everytime enemy popped out leave some space if you think 0.5 cm is enogh leave a crosshair more
Tracking training improves smooth aim a lot basically , I experienced that as well , I’ve seen my flicks improving as well with the tracking for some reason I can adjust better
Hi, I've always been a wrist aimer, and recently trying to get my arm involved too. When it comes to tracking, do you use your wrist or arm? Or can you use both? I suck at tracking even with my wrist, but its still a lot better than my arm, I really cant see myself using arm to track, I feel a lot slower with it. Thanks in advance
@@lolcsgomoments2547 i try to never use the wrist to adjust , basically track with the arm and adjust with fingers, by using a claw grip esentially, wrist will be involved no mather what in reallity, but i allways try to avoid using it as much as possible, i feel like that way i will avoid carpal tunnel in the future, hopefully (also i use 34cm 360 if that helps)
@@PabloCarballo88honestly it’s more accurate to use your wrist to track unless the player you’re tracking goes too far and you have to start using your arm. I found if you drag your arm down, only vertically, and use your wrist to actually track left and right. Using the arm to control the recoil and the wrist to track allows you to aim with your wrist while your aim is unaffected by recoil, because you’re controlling it with your arm which is separate from your wrist. U just gotta practice it and make sure you bring your arm on the y axis and your wrist on the x axis. It’s helped me aim so much, you just have to get used to it
@@PabloCarballo8834cm damn lmao I am playing 76cm/360 good luck tracking with wrist on that sens 😅😂
@@idkijustgothere I changed my approach since my comment , I’m using a true claw grip now so there is no finger or wrist involved , so much better , and ur sense is just insane , if u move to a fast pace fps ur done , that’s fine for valorant or cs I guess
okay no this made more sense than the other videos i've watched tysm !
These coaching videos are very helpful, Thanks
You should reach out to woohoojin, he's a radiant coach who's looking to get aim coaching
Things tend to go better when people reach out to me and my dms are always open
West proter, I don't understand why palm grip would be considered so much more restrictive to finger motion than claw grip. The only thing that gets in the way of finger motion for me is whether or not the base of my palm is attached to the mouse or not, which is it for both palm and claw. Unrelated but I'm also trying to switch off of a palm grip right now, i just find hard to do on my deathadder v3 pro.
with palm ur fingers on the side of the mouse are straigt and u cant control it that much. while with claw ur area of impact is way smaller and u get alot more control
Yeah but with claw my palm blocks my fingers from having impact
@@TheNegationist I use "claw" i guess, and i can move my fingers up but not down because of the palm yes, but when it goes up it can come back down too. can also do slight adjustments horizontally too.
I was wondering if I should be relaxed when flicking or tense up? My wrist specifically, I feel more crispy and in control when I tense my aim, but I feel like that's inconsistent.
Tension is a spectrum, no tension and you can’t move, too much and you can’t move. Usually people try to stay close to the minimum to prevent injury though most who’ve tried to learn less tension after already hitting a high level haven’t seen major score impacts positive or negative from what I’ve seen
I feel like I will rely to much on arm aiming when i am trying to be smooth
Also this could be due to having a mousepad that’s softer than normal
In wider angle scens (past wrist rom) you need to mostly use arm. For small angle stuff check out syw scens (smooth your wrist). They’re designed to take the space your wrist uses and no more
@@WestProter thank you west!
another great video from west
Love these kinds of videos
Holy shit my mic is terrible on discord 😭👎
Nah you sound sexy imo
All good
Didn’t bother me. You’re good man
Any specific scenarios other than the ones shown that help with speed and smoothness? Really trying to focus on this aspect and reactive tracking.
Think about why/how you struggle, sort the scenarios by tracking and find scens that emphasize that. It’s a bit of work, but it’ll find great scenarios. The ones featured in the video have a lot of variants to fit to your ability and usually searching the word “smooth” comes up with a lot of beginner results
@@WestProter i find that even if i lower sens, dont tense my hand, and get used to smooth aim, I will still randomly get insanley shaky. I don't know what to do about it D:
@@logi-operationsseem like you just need to keep playing and feeling it out honestly
Still wating for that aimlab playlist...😆
Kinda feel like the advice in this video on how to not be shaky was just to not be shaky
ever clean your room? First you take everything down, acknowledge the problem that things are in weird places and make the room look like a mess then put things back.
@@WestProter this has to be a bait
How pros and top 500 players u aim coached?
i can aim a little i guess cause im asc1 peak, however, when i press the fire button, thats the only time it gets shaky :(
i need to fix my tracking, it is very flicky and not smooth
That looks exactly like me trying to track lol. This is why I play Val…
Is it just me or does west sound like the "burger king foot lettuce" guy?
very slightly
This was big in my comments 6 months ago
The finals is out now, how is he doing?
kinda goes along with the shaky aim theory but do you have any advice for someone that feels gun recoil through the mouse? what i mean is if i’m not shooting i can move my mouse and slow and smooth as i want but as soon as i hold down left click to shoot and track my whole hand and wrist begin to vibrate until i stop shooting
Try to be as light and delicate as possible when pressing mb1
*sorry bad english
press button lightly, dont put too much pressure since your wrist and and forearm become stiff...
maybe what you should do is try to not panicking and hold button calmly while tracking (like when you not into fight and just strolling around map)
usually i do is when not into shooting enemy, i just change to melee, hold my firing button down and tracking friend movement while strolling (by this you can even train your strafe tracking, if you play apex you can even train your vertical tracking somehow)
u need a better mic for discord bro , great video tho
My disc my is my normal mic idk what was up with it for this stream
hi west bb
Hi crony bb
Zywoo used in smooth aim
bro i had this problem too tysm
Why when i do things like aim trainers, my aim starts pretty decent but then starts declining?
you probably lose focus and get too frustrated OR you grip your mouse too tightly and exhaust your muscles.
Sir i need reply pls my q is - i found my perfect grip like its hybrid finger and palm but in starting my hand was paining a little after playing 30 40 minutes it is normal ?
Try a lighter mouse if it’s still happens after a week, whenever it starts happening stop, if neither helps, it’s not your perfect grip
@@WestProter so what can i do my mouse is viper mini
Ya thats 61g so pretty heavy imo. Look into sub 40 and sub 30g mice ig though those would all require a complete grip redesign, but it seems like viper mini isn’t great for you either. Idk really hard to say especially if you’re on a budget
@@WestProter hi sir i found the claw grip is comfortable and easy to play for me and my aim improve so much so i found my grip thanks to you
Hey west I’m doing really good in siege I’m currently top 300 in the world actually marquetant is my gamer tag but I’ve been having another problem I feel like I always have to lower my sense like I can be doing great on 100 sensitivity for a example but the next day 100 will feel bad and I have to switch it to 98 to do good and this keeps happening
From a quick r6 tracker run appears you’re on play station and I know nothing abt controller aim unfortunately. Sorry but idk how to help
What about oblivity, could you make it for oblivity.. for shaky aim
I probably won’t use oblivity much. I bet they have similar scens, but that sponsorship was one video
What was the apex style game he is training for
I think it’s called the finals idk never heard of it
the finals. its made by a lot of ex battlefield devs
i always suffer because of a problem, i cant seem to solve (specially if i overthink). should i track with wrist or arm. also should i flick with arm or wrist? my sens is 46cm. valorant rank Plat 1/Plat 2. CSGO rank MGE
Stop thinking. There is no answer, the two are not exclusive, their balance is not conscious
That and loosen your muscles n relax . Relaxing helps the jitters.
can you coach me for my aim for fortnite
@westproter on discord
Added you
So what scenerios is required to achieve smooth aim?
Any scens that allow you to track smoothly without being too easy or overwhelming
@@WestProter You know any scenerios that will help in making arm aiming not wierd.
@@WestProter I play .9 1600 on apex which when converted to val equals .28 but thats shaky for me. So i am playing .2 on val. Any problem with using diff sens in games that will cause shaky aim?
Matty for best player !!
Stark for best player (matty left my meme on delivered)
PAHA ITS SZN WTF
If it’s not Ridd or WP istg
why kovaak isnt free honestly , its garbage
literly worst then him
There is zero gameplay on the finals how would he know the ttk is similar to apex….
Idk
Hey that's my name on flickerxyz long dash at #4
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