Super thorough explanation, Mark! Appreciate it. I've seen the vast majority of other window cleaners who've tried wfp give up claiming it doesn't really work. They think it's a magic wand. It's still hard work and takes just a little bit of brains.
I love that you used the expression 'magic wand'. It's so true, whenever I hear someone say "oh my customer had some other guy use wfp and the results were horrible" I always know this is the issue. They were just shaking the pole up on the glass like a magic wand, not even realizing that there is a method to it. The difference between a pro and a .... well you know. ;-)
Great explanation! I didn’t know the milky residue is caused my oxidation on the window frames, been trying to work that one out for a bit haha. Talking from experience I would only add one thing. If you rinse the frames, then angle the stream into the corners of the glass, then do the face of the glass (all top down of course) it does a great job of mitigating everything you’ve talked about.
Brilliant video I've encountered all of the problems you've mentioned and have been able with time and experience to work it out like you've explained, if I was staring out I'd be the happiest man alive getting this video to watch😂 Was great to be reassured by everything you've mention just a great video 👍
Lovely video for new ones. Never scrub the bottom frame before doing the glass, there is always more dirt on the bottom, so you are just transferring the dirt back on top of the glass. First top frame, sides, glass, bottom, sill. Rinse , and sweep the sill off . Done.
Thanks for your shared experience, I’ve always cleaned the bottom frame before the glass because on every brush stroke going down, you will most likely touch the dirty frame and bring the dirt up onto the glass. May as well deal with it beforehand. Of course every cleaning job is unique so changing up technique from time is a thing.
For a first clean I had that milky residue that you mentioned at the end of the video. Thought it was something that i may have used, but now apprears not. I always give my first cleans an extra rinse when i've finished each side, but looks like i may have to repeat it for that job.
It’s also has to do with the elements .. if it’s windy day the dust that in the air will attach to the clean drips on the class.. also if there isn’t good sun, shaded area tend to last longer to dry there for you will get more spots left over. City areas where there is alot of traffic it’s really difficult to get good result dude to pollution.
Good thorough explanation, but from my experience it's not that easy. My area the majority of homes are extremely hydrophobic. you can scrub and rinse all day long and you still get spotting. You see all these wfp videos, where the windows are nice hydrphillic glass, sheeting water beautifully and they turn out great, but that just isn't how it goes most time for me in the field. TDS at zero, booster pump at 90-100psi, tons of flow with rinse bar angled so water is spraying past the bristles, and still alot of times there's spotting. All these ytubers say 'oh it's the technique, not rinsing enough,' I disagree, alot of times it's the glass. With Hydrophobic glass, water droplets cling too long before they dry, that's what causes the spotting. There's alot more science to it than people realize or care to learn. You never hear about any of these problems before you spend 5 grand on a pure water setup. Just sayin
If there are no minerals or dirt in the droplets, it doesn't matter how long they take to dry (within reason). I do agree that there is some science to it though. Maybe try one of the reach-it brushes. They are pricey, but their rinse bars are better than most. I do wonder if something could be added to the water that would break the surface tension better but evaporate with the water so it doesn't leave a deposit.
@@JJG323brother flip the window in. I genuinely only see this problem happen to me on double hung windows and french windows. I love using the water fed for this because of the dirty frames and possible heights. Being able to flip in the window and wipe away those spotting areas are massive. I just make sure to do them perfectly and scrub over an extra couples times with a more steady rinse. It’s still gonna drip smack the window sill and splatter on the corners of the Windows. Kinda just gotta get lucky and find a method that minimizes that at most.
If you work on full flow like I do and scrub twice there is no need to rinse as you have rinsed while cleaning Works for me here in the uk as my work is done 6 weekly
Number 4. This really made me think, beacause the waterfed pole kept leaving "watermarks" so i figured the "pure" water wasnt pure enough even going through filters. But this might be it. I will always prefer a skylift tho
For those who clean with pure water and water fed poles, they know the issues I bring up in this video and understand my problem solutions demonstrated in this video. Thanks for watching.
I've always wanted to know why cleaning once per year is so common in America. I clean 4-weekly in the UK and the windows are dirty when I start. I would imagine that customers are only getting a few weeks tops to enjoy clean windows. After that, wouldn't they be dirty for months? Kinda seems so brief. I would wonder if it's worth doing at all if they're not regularly maintained. Can someone explain?
Yes it is very interesting the differences. Window cleaning has always been more of a luxury service rather than a regular maintenance service in North America. Generally homes were always much larger and until recent years, pretty mush all had bug screens on the outside of the windows. It is a more involved cleaning. A lot of us also do in/out cleaning which means a house window cleaning job can sometimes take several hours. I’ve had a few over the years that have even taken the whole day with 2 people working. I would go so far as to say less than half of home owners even get their windows professionally cleaned..ever. And for renters? Forget about it. For some, getting your windows cleaned professionally gives you a big “pick me up” feeling in the spring (or fall as well). It’s like getting your car washed. If we all cleaned our cars as soon as they got dirty it would be one to two times per week but I’m sure the average person does it around once a month. And less in the winter for some because they they think, “I’m going to spend min $10 to get my car washed and it’ll be dirty by the afternoon, so what’s the point”. It’s all psychological in the end.
I wfp window cleaned for 5 years and NEVER got spoting, ever! If the frames have deteriorated, it won't matter how much you scrub them you will get spotting. Ready for this people.... you must DAB the frames! If one tiny drop of water goes from the fame to the pane, its game over. Redo it. Scrub the frames so they look clean, dab so nothing is dripping, then rinse the windows with a very low flow so the pane gets rinsed only. If any rinse water so much a touches the frame then redo it.
don't touch the frame, especially when they are not cleaned often, if the paint is old, hot water make it worse, when ever you can clean it from the ground by hand, du it.
I have a question? My pole leaves streaks on the sides and tops of the windows, near the frames. But the bottom and the whole middle windows are good. Anybody know how to fix that? Do I need to spend more time scrubbing it or watering it down when I’m done?
yes, scrub more around the frame longer and rinse more. Sometimes windows still have residue like silicone around the edge making that area hydrophobic so needs a tad more rinsing.
The video in question deals with water fed pole work. This is the method of cleaning with purified water running up a thin tubing, up trhough a pole (some go as high as 90ft) and out through a brush head, so 4th floor is very doable.
When you're new to it, it may seem that way. The only reason that is is because you're trying to do from the ground what you would normally do traditionally with the glass right in front of your eyes. With traditional methods, you react without much thought as you go along if the glass isn't perfect, you reach for your scraper, grab your detailing rag, scrub a second time, etc. Or even reach for a harsher chemical. Once you know the water fed techniques for spot free cleaning, it becomes second nature to you.
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Super thorough explanation, Mark! Appreciate it. I've seen the vast majority of other window cleaners who've tried wfp give up claiming it doesn't really work. They think it's a magic wand. It's still hard work and takes just a little bit of brains.
I love that you used the expression 'magic wand'. It's so true, whenever I hear someone say "oh my customer had some other guy use wfp and the results were horrible" I always know this is the issue. They were just shaking the pole up on the glass like a magic wand, not even realizing that there is a method to it. The difference between a pro and a .... well you know. ;-)
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Great explanation! I didn’t know the milky residue is caused my oxidation on the window frames, been trying to work that one out for a bit haha. Talking from experience I would only add one thing. If you rinse the frames, then angle the stream into the corners of the glass, then do the face of the glass (all top down of course) it does a great job of mitigating everything you’ve talked about.
Great added tips!
This video makes a lot of sense, thank you for your patience and expertise my friend.
Superb video. Great presenter George U.K.
Brilliant video I've encountered all of the problems you've mentioned and have been able with time and experience to work it out like you've explained, if I was staring out I'd be the happiest man alive getting this video to watch😂
Was great to be reassured by everything you've mention just a great video 👍
Haha, great. Thanks for watching!
Thank you i did my first wfp job today. And i do have alot to learn. Soon I will be able to buy the expensive pole and boars brush for my business
Good luck with your business!
Lovely video for new ones. Never scrub the bottom frame before doing the glass, there is always more dirt on the bottom, so you are just transferring the dirt back on top of the glass. First top frame, sides, glass, bottom, sill. Rinse , and sweep the sill off . Done.
Thanks for your shared experience, I’ve always cleaned the bottom frame before the glass because on every brush stroke going down, you will most likely touch the dirty frame and bring the dirt up onto the glass. May as well deal with it beforehand. Of course every cleaning job is unique so changing up technique from time is a thing.
10/10 advice. Valuable. Interesting.
Thanks for watching. 🙂
For a first clean I had that milky residue that you mentioned at the end of the video. Thought it was something that i may have used, but now apprears not. I always give my first cleans an extra rinse when i've finished each side, but looks like i may have to repeat it for that job.
Yea, oxidized frames are getting more common…unfortunately
Fantastic video, have subscribed :)
Very good advice. Great channel 🙌
It’s also has to do with the elements .. if it’s windy day the dust that in the air will attach to the clean drips on the class.. also if there isn’t good sun, shaded area tend to last longer to dry there for you will get more spots left over. City areas where there is alot of traffic it’s really difficult to get good result dude to pollution.
I love this ! Great info! Thank you
Thanks for watching!
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Good thorough explanation, but from my experience it's not that easy. My area the majority of homes are extremely hydrophobic. you can scrub and rinse all day long and you still get spotting. You see all these wfp videos, where the windows are nice hydrphillic glass, sheeting water beautifully and they turn out great, but that just isn't how it goes most time for me in the field. TDS at zero, booster pump at 90-100psi, tons of flow with rinse bar angled so water is spraying past the bristles, and still alot of times there's spotting. All these ytubers say 'oh it's the technique, not rinsing enough,' I disagree, alot of times it's the glass. With Hydrophobic glass, water droplets cling too long before they dry, that's what causes the spotting. There's alot more science to it than people realize or care to learn. You never hear about any of these problems before you spend 5 grand on a pure water setup. Just sayin
I’m just starting out. What’s the solution then? Getting up on a ladder and doing it by hand?
@@JJG323 yes
If there are no minerals or dirt in the droplets, it doesn't matter how long they take to dry (within reason). I do agree that there is some science to it though. Maybe try one of the reach-it brushes. They are pricey, but their rinse bars are better than most. I do wonder if something could be added to the water that would break the surface tension better but evaporate with the water so it doesn't leave a deposit.
agreed! Jesus CHRIST AGREED
@@JJG323brother flip the window in. I genuinely only see this problem happen to me on double hung windows and french windows. I love using the water fed for this because of the dirty frames and possible heights. Being able to flip in the window and wipe away those spotting areas are massive. I just make sure to do them perfectly and scrub over an extra couples times with a more steady rinse. It’s still gonna drip smack the window sill and splatter on the corners of the Windows. Kinda just gotta get lucky and find a method that minimizes that at most.
If you work on full flow like I do and scrub twice there is no need to rinse as you have rinsed while cleaning
Works for me here in the uk as my work is done 6 weekly
In North America, residential cleanings are usually done once to twice per year at best.
Number 4. This really made me think, beacause the waterfed pole kept leaving "watermarks" so i figured the "pure" water wasnt pure enough even going through filters. But this might be it. I will always prefer a skylift tho
How can you show how to clean a window with a clean window as example ?
For those who clean with pure water and water fed poles, they know the issues I bring up in this video and understand my problem solutions demonstrated in this video. Thanks for watching.
I've always wanted to know why cleaning once per year is so common in America. I clean 4-weekly in the UK and the windows are dirty when I start. I would imagine that customers are only getting a few weeks tops to enjoy clean windows. After that, wouldn't they be dirty for months? Kinda seems so brief. I would wonder if it's worth doing at all if they're not regularly maintained. Can someone explain?
Yes it is very interesting the differences. Window cleaning has always been more of a luxury service rather than a regular maintenance service in North America. Generally homes were always much larger and until recent years, pretty mush all had bug screens on the outside of the windows. It is a more involved cleaning. A lot of us also do in/out cleaning which means a house window cleaning job can sometimes take several hours. I’ve had a few over the years that have even taken the whole day with 2 people working. I would go so far as to say less than half of home owners even get their windows professionally cleaned..ever. And for renters? Forget about it. For some, getting your windows cleaned professionally gives you a big “pick me up” feeling in the spring (or fall as well). It’s like getting your car washed. If we all cleaned our cars as soon as they got dirty it would be one to two times per week but I’m sure the average person does it around once a month. And less in the winter for some because they they think, “I’m going to spend min $10 to get my car washed and it’ll be dirty by the afternoon, so what’s the point”. It’s all psychological in the end.
I wfp window cleaned for 5 years and NEVER got spoting, ever! If the frames have deteriorated, it won't matter how much you scrub them you will get spotting.
Ready for this people.... you must DAB the frames! If one tiny drop of water goes from the fame to the pane, its game over. Redo it. Scrub the frames so they look clean, dab so nothing is dripping, then rinse the windows with a very low flow so the pane gets rinsed only. If any rinse water so much a touches the frame then redo it.
Thanks for sharing your experience
don't touch the frame, especially when they are not cleaned often, if the paint is old, hot water make it worse, when ever you can clean it from the ground by hand, du it.
Dead powdery paint from the sash getting on the glass is a pain.
I have a question? My pole leaves streaks on the sides and tops of the windows, near the frames. But the bottom and the whole middle windows are good. Anybody know how to fix that? Do I need to spend more time scrubbing it or watering it down when I’m done?
yes, scrub more around the frame longer and rinse more. Sometimes windows still have residue like silicone around the edge making that area hydrophobic so needs a tad more rinsing.
How would you take care of a 4th floor window from the ground level ?
The video in question deals with water fed pole work. This is the method of cleaning with purified water running up a thin tubing, up trhough a pole (some go as high as 90ft) and out through a brush head, so 4th floor is very doable.
Never knew there was so much work in water fed pole work.
When you're new to it, it may seem that way. The only reason that is is because you're trying to do from the ground what you would normally do traditionally with the glass right in front of your eyes. With traditional methods, you react without much thought as you go along if the glass isn't perfect, you reach for your scraper, grab your detailing rag, scrub a second time, etc. Or even reach for a harsher chemical. Once you know the water fed techniques for spot free cleaning, it becomes second nature to you.
Hugs brush all day long for efficiency but more slightly more fatigue
Thanks for your input.