Wow! I had to pause watching this video to come say thank you for taking the time to make the distinctions between the different types of architects. I now have a lucid idea of the type of architecture that comes naturally to me. Thank you so much!
Great distinctions of the architects. Applying to the jobs and it seems to be a wishlist of everything so knowing your own skills can help to know which architect to apply for
This is definitely the video you needed. There are a lot of technical architects, solutions architects, and SEs (as I'm sure you know) that that are learning cloud technologies. I was a technical architect at a VAR that used an 'escalation' technique when it came to the business side. I would start with the IT folks first, make a relationship with them, and start fielding some basic questions and discovery. I wanted to sniff out the NEED or the WANT for tech. From that, we could determine if a further discussion with business stakeholders was needed due to a perceived disconnect from an IT that just wanted 'toys' or had budget to burn.
Welock. Thank you. We felt others new to these roles would benefit from learning more about them, so they could get the job the desire. It’s hard to train for the job when you don’t know what it is, so we make a lot of these kind of videos.
The differences between the Cloud Architect positions were clearly explained. What I learned from this presentation, as you move up the Architectural roles, your skill sets become less technical and more executive & business experience.
Hello. We did not include a domain architect as it is not a cloud architect. That is someone that knows one subject like storage or process redesign. It’s not someone that focuses on the full solution which is why they aren’t a cloud architect or enterprise architect.
Thanks for this very insightful video. A few questions I have... I am specialized in 1 SAAS Vendor Solution (CRM), and played roles as BA and Solution Architect for about 5 years in all for that solution (but over 10years of experience). However, in the long term I aspire to be an Enterprise Architect. 1. What next 2 roles will you recommendation in a path towards EA. Solution Architect or Business Architect or Cloud Architect? 2. On the average, how many years of relevant experience does one require to fill in an EA position? 3. How may one get into EA without prior EA experience ... especially an external applicant. 4. Considering an EA engages with an overview of a company's tech landscape which includes technologies from several vendors, what general other solutions would you recommend one should focus on with regards IAAS and PAAS? AWS, AZURE, etc? 5. Lastly, will you recommend an Architecture Certificate as a facilitation towards an EA role? 6. If Yes, which and why? TOGAF, Zachmann, ITIL v. 4, Gartner? Many thanks in advance of your response.
Attend one of our career question and answer sessions and we can help you. These roles have nothing to do with certification. Here is someone who we trained to be an enterprise architect and is now working with zero experience. ruclips.net/video/eQUsCDg96Go/видео.html It’s about having the correct set of skills and they are NOT covered in any certification. But we can tell you on one of our webinars.
I am learning so much from so many of your videos. Thank you for all the amazing content! Do you recommend any path or certifications from going from help desk to becoming a cloud architect? Should I go to a non-cloud job (Linux/network/ops admin) before going into the cloud from help desk?
Hi Wayne, We can easily tell you how to transition from helpdesk to Cloud Architect. Please attend one of our how to get your first cloud architect Job webinars. We will tell you exactly what to do- And it’s free. www.gocloudarchitects.com/free-cloud-webinar/
Why are you restricting this to Cloud as these ca be valid broadly !! Though I am not sure as the traditional definitions apply any more !! Good way to start Sunday morning 🌅
Well explained, Michael! Thanks for sharing... In recent days, another tile "Infrastructure Architect" appears frequently. What should be categorized? Technical, or solution?
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it! A cloud infrastructure architect is still an architect, which means this professional will need to ask the right questions to assess a business, then design the best solution to transform the business. #cloudhired
They are Data architects. It’s a specialist career. Although we retrain a lot of data architects to be cloud architects as there are far more jobs, much hire salaries and more career potential.
Generally Enterprise Architects who focus more on the business are much higher level in the company. The solution architect is the most junior of the architects. Then would be cloud architect. Then enterprise architect. Then business architect. That’s why we train cloud architects. As they can always take the more junior solution architect roles, cloud architect roles and sometimes enterprise architect roles. But generally the enterprise architect is a director or VP level platoon.
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Question: In the normal flow of work. Losely speaking, who does more work earlier? Data architects or Solution architects. I'm guessing solution architects would take the baton from the business architect, then pass it to technical architect, who in term work with data architect etc? Right? Also, thanks for awesome explaination.
They are completely different. The cloud architect focuses on the end to end design. The data architecture only focuses on the data. They work together. Different parts for the solution. If it’s big data the data architect is involved from the beginning. It’s it’s a total solution the cloud architect gets the data architect to consult on the big data piece. But many data architects come to us to become cloud architects as it’s a bigger role with the potential for much higher pay. The closer you are to the business the higher the pay. The closer you are to the tech the lower the pay. But what matters is doing what you love. Business architects are strategy consultants and may or may not have anything to do with the technology.
Thanks Mike for the key distinctions. The Tech roles that align with my focus at the moment are: the Cloud & Enterprise Architect positions. while I've done some Business Architect roles in the past. Your videos are a key resource guide for Tech Leadership Careers.
This really helped me understand the clear distinctions between different architect roles and plan my own career path. Your videos keep getting better and better!
This is a long-term goal. If you don't have any previous experience as a cloud architect or solutions architect you will probably need to work in one of those roles for a few years. However, it is an attainable goal. Enterprise architects are very very very senior.
Dear Sir, Could you please help to find a way to choose path. I am working as Hadoop Admin from 8 years (knows maximum insights of it), knows linux, networking, and programming languages (workable) but want to move out as Solution Architect as no jobs for hadoop Admins.. If you please can tell what will be better... Do I need explore more tech or managerial works ?
Hi. We can help you. You are describing engineering skills that you have. Engineering and architecture skills are very different. Please come to this webinar where we will show you what you need to do to transition to architecture. www.gocloudarchitects.com/become-the-ultimate-cloud-architect-webinar-youtube/
this was so helpful. Enterprise Architect is my dream job but i didn't even know it was a job until this video. Thought my options to do that was to start my own company (which I tried for 3 years and I was miserable the whole time). I will now be pivoting my plan to ultimately get an enterprise architect job. Thank you Michael!
Today's problem is that many people give themselves the title of architect without using any recognized standard, method or framework. That is why there are so many misunderstandings in business about the role of architecture and the resulting expectations! One possibility would be to go e.g. in the direction of the Togaf standard of the Opengroup. This methodology is completely vendor neutral and well 600 Enterprises like IBM, Phillips, Fujitsu etc. recognize the Togaf standard! Of course, it is always important to describe the role of the architect transparently to the customer and also within the own company, then no false expectations can arise. Anyway, I think the video explains well how the respective architectures could differ.
Business Architects can be classified based on levels of seniority like Junior, Proficient, Senior and Expert? If that is right, how do you characterize them based on seniority?
Great question Seniority or how long someone is at the company is not very important How good the person is at their job is what matters There are plenty of capable rising stars who achieve great things in their youth There are also people who have decades of experience that are incompetent So seniority is relatively unimportant, what’s someone’s capabilities are and the impact they can make to the organization is what matters most
No they are almost complete opposites A digital architect is more about how to improve business with technology. More like a cloud architect or enterprise architect. The focus here for a digital architect, enterprise architect or cloud architect is digital transformation A technical architect is really an engineer with an architect title. They focus more on the tech.
Sometimes. Generally the business analyst does the research and makes recommendations. Generally the business architect is about taking the information and transforming the organization with business process redesign, nee tech, new offerings etc Having said that all of these roles have overlap and they don’t have clearly defined roles in many cases.
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Hello, Mike. I specifically desire to be an enterprise architect (coming from a buidling architect / visual designer / entpreneur background.). How do I get started please? Also, the link to your LinkedIn page seems broken.
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Wow! I had to pause watching this video to come say thank you for taking the time to make the distinctions between the different types of architects. I now have a lucid idea of the type of architecture that comes naturally to me. Thank you so much!
You are so welcome Captain Umoru. I am going live in about 15 minutes. If you have any questions, feel free to come ask me live :-)
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As always, very well articulated, clear and concise.. I look myself somewhere between Solutions and Cloud Architect 👍
That’s great Harshal. I have rotated back and forth too between roles. All are fun
Great distinctions of the architects. Applying to the jobs and it seems to be a wishlist of everything so knowing your own skills can help to know which architect to apply for
This is definitely the video you needed. There are a lot of technical architects, solutions architects, and SEs (as I'm sure you know) that that are learning cloud technologies.
I was a technical architect at a VAR that used an 'escalation' technique when it came to the business side. I would start with the IT folks first, make a relationship with them, and start fielding some basic questions and discovery. I wanted to sniff out the NEED or the WANT for tech. From that, we could determine if a further discussion with business stakeholders was needed due to a perceived disconnect from an IT that just wanted 'toys' or had budget to burn.
Welock. Thank you.
We felt others new to these roles would benefit from learning more about them, so they could get the job the desire.
It’s hard to train for the job when you don’t know what it is, so we make a lot of these kind of videos.
The differences between the Cloud Architect positions were clearly explained. What I learned from this presentation, as you move up the Architectural roles, your skill sets become less technical and more executive & business experience.
Thank you Derrick. Yes your got it right. As you move up it’s all about the business
Finally found a clear description of the differences between these roles. I knew I should've stopped here first! :-D Thanks so much.
Thanks, Marla!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
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Thank you. My path to my end goal is clear now. Excellent summary and clarity.
That’s great. Do what you love and build and incredible career.
Great Explanation Mike. I think you missed "Domain Architect" in the video
Hello. We did not include a domain architect as it is not a cloud architect. That is someone that knows one subject like storage or process redesign.
It’s not someone that focuses on the full solution which is why they aren’t a cloud architect or enterprise architect.
Best video on this topic
Thank you for the recognition.
Waaaaow awesome presentation and explaining - thanks a lot for it!!!
Wonderful insight as usual, thank you Milki
Thank you Geni
Thanks for this very insightful video. A few questions I have...
I am specialized in 1 SAAS Vendor Solution (CRM), and played roles as BA and Solution Architect for about 5 years in all for that solution (but over 10years of experience). However, in the long term I aspire to be an Enterprise Architect.
1. What next 2 roles will you recommendation in a path towards EA. Solution Architect or Business Architect or Cloud Architect?
2. On the average, how many years of relevant experience does one require to fill in an EA position?
3. How may one get into EA without prior EA experience ... especially an external applicant.
4. Considering an EA engages with an overview of a company's tech landscape which includes technologies from several vendors, what general other solutions would you recommend one should focus on with regards IAAS and PAAS? AWS, AZURE, etc?
5. Lastly, will you recommend an Architecture Certificate as a facilitation towards an EA role?
6. If Yes, which and why? TOGAF, Zachmann, ITIL v. 4, Gartner?
Many thanks in advance of your response.
Attend one of our career question and answer sessions and we can help you.
These roles have nothing to do with certification.
Here is someone who we trained to be an enterprise architect and is now working with zero experience.
ruclips.net/video/eQUsCDg96Go/видео.html
It’s about having the correct set of skills and they are NOT covered in any certification. But we can tell you on one of our webinars.
Your content has been helpful for years! Thank you
Thank you!
I'm glad it has been helpful to you!
#cloudhired
nice , could you please create video on SHarePoint technical architect
Thank you for the suggestion.
I am learning so much from so many of your videos. Thank you for all the amazing content!
Do you recommend any path or certifications from going from help desk to becoming a cloud architect? Should I go to a non-cloud job (Linux/network/ops admin) before going into the cloud from help desk?
Hi Wayne,
We can easily tell you how to transition from helpdesk to Cloud Architect.
Please attend one of our how to get your first cloud architect Job webinars.
We will tell you exactly what to do- And it’s free.
www.gocloudarchitects.com/free-cloud-webinar/
Why are you restricting this to Cloud as these ca be valid broadly !! Though I am not sure as the traditional definitions apply any more !! Good way to start Sunday morning 🌅
Thank you for your explanation.
Well explained, Michael! Thanks for sharing... In recent days, another tile "Infrastructure Architect" appears frequently. What should be categorized? Technical, or solution?
Thank you!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
A cloud infrastructure architect is still an architect, which means this professional will need to ask the right questions to assess a business, then design the best solution to transform the business.
#cloudhired
Well explained! Thanks for this.
Thank you, Micah!
I'm glad it was helpful!
#cloudhired
Thank you,Mike
What about Functional Architect, is that the same as a Business Architect? Thanks for your material.
Wassim. Functional architecture is more related to enterprise architecture then business architecture.
@@GoCloudArchitects Thanks
Technical and cloud architecture have merged and ends up being well paid equal to EA or an SA if not moreso.
Thank you, Stan!
I am glad you are enjoying it!
#cloudhired
Where do you place the Data Architect ?
They are Data architects.
It’s a specialist career.
Although we retrain a lot of data architects to be cloud architects as there are far more jobs, much hire salaries and more career potential.
Thank you for this, are there situations where Enterprise Architect work with Solutions Architect? Who reports to who?
Generally Enterprise Architects who focus more on the business are much higher level in the company.
The solution architect is the most junior of the architects. Then would be cloud architect. Then enterprise architect. Then business architect.
That’s why we train cloud architects. As they can always take the more junior solution architect roles, cloud architect roles and sometimes enterprise architect roles.
But generally the enterprise architect is a director or VP level platoon.
Thank you, Adekunle!
We offer our FREE How to Get Your First Cloud Job Webinar, where you can ask your cloud career questions, and I answer them for you.
Please register for the next webinar at: gocloudcareers.com/free-cloud-webinar
In the webinar, I can give you a more meaningful answer.
#cloudhired
Question: In the normal flow of work. Losely speaking, who does more work earlier? Data architects or Solution architects.
I'm guessing solution architects would take the baton from the business architect, then pass it to technical architect, who in term work with data architect etc?
Right?
Also, thanks for awesome explaination.
They are completely different.
The cloud architect focuses on the end to end design. The data architecture only focuses on the data. They work together.
Different parts for the solution. If it’s big data the data architect is involved from the beginning.
It’s it’s a total solution the cloud architect gets the data architect to consult on the big data piece.
But many data architects come to us to become cloud architects as it’s a bigger role with the potential for much higher pay.
The closer you are to the business the higher the pay. The closer you are to the tech the lower the pay.
But what matters is doing what you love.
Business architects are strategy consultants and may or may not have anything to do with the technology.
Thanks Mike for the key distinctions. The Tech roles that align with my focus at the moment are: the Cloud & Enterprise Architect positions. while I've done some Business Architect roles in the past. Your videos are a key resource guide for Tech Leadership Careers.
Precious, thank you so much. I am confident that with your continued focus and effort, you'll get to where you aim in no time.
Hey precious, did u happen to go through the GoCloud architect course?
This really helped me understand the clear distinctions between different architect roles and plan my own career path. Your videos keep getting better and better!
Thank you Rohan.
I have a nee team helping me with the videos.
The placement of cloud arch above Soln arch is nonsense. It is a domain specific tech or Soln arch
That sounds is so loud and annoying
The def of soon arch is only half right
My goal is to become an Enterprise Architect. Unsure where to start
This is a long-term goal. If you don't have any previous experience as a cloud architect or solutions architect you will probably need to work in one of those roles for a few years. However, it is an attainable goal. Enterprise architects are very very very senior.
Dear Sir,
Could you please help to find a way to choose path. I am working as Hadoop Admin from 8 years (knows maximum insights of it), knows linux, networking, and programming languages (workable) but want to move out as Solution Architect as no jobs for hadoop Admins..
If you please can tell what will be better... Do I need explore more tech or managerial works ?
Hi. We can help you.
You are describing engineering skills that you have.
Engineering and architecture skills are very different.
Please come to this webinar where we will show you what you need to do to transition to architecture.
www.gocloudarchitects.com/become-the-ultimate-cloud-architect-webinar-youtube/
this was so helpful. Enterprise Architect is my dream job but i didn't even know it was a job until this video. Thought my options to do that was to start my own company (which I tried for 3 years and I was miserable the whole time). I will now be pivoting my plan to ultimately get an enterprise architect job. Thank you Michael!
Great job and excellent delivery
Thank you very much
This was great; very informative. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this easy and amazing explanation.
Thank you!
I'm glad you liked it!
#cloudHired
Today's problem is that many people give themselves the title of architect without using any recognized standard, method or framework. That is why there are so many misunderstandings in business about the role of architecture and the resulting expectations! One possibility would be to go e.g. in the direction of the Togaf standard of the Opengroup. This methodology is completely vendor neutral and well 600 Enterprises like IBM, Phillips, Fujitsu etc. recognize the Togaf standard! Of course, it is always important to describe the role of the architect transparently to the customer and also within the own company, then no false expectations can arise.
Anyway, I think the video explains well how the respective architectures could differ.
Seb - completely agree
That’s exactly why we made this video tell people know exactly what architects do
Business Architects can be classified based on levels of seniority like Junior, Proficient, Senior and Expert? If that is right, how do you characterize them based on seniority?
Great question
Seniority or how long someone is at the company is not very important
How good the person is at their job is what matters
There are plenty of capable rising stars who achieve great things in their youth
There are also people who have decades of experience that are incompetent
So seniority is relatively unimportant, what’s someone’s capabilities are and the impact they can make to the organization is what matters most
I was always confused among these. Thanks for explaining.
Thank you!
I'm glad it was helpful!
#cloudhired
Thank you Mike. We meet those terms out there and don't really know the difference. Thanks again for the clarification.
I’m so happy to help. Thank you for watching 😊
Doing a presentation for work and this was super helpful!!
That’s wonderful and I’m so happy to hear we were able to help you.
Is a digital architect the same my as a technical architect?
No they are almost complete opposites
A digital architect is more about how to improve business with technology.
More like a cloud architect or enterprise architect.
The focus here for a digital architect, enterprise architect or cloud architect is digital transformation
A technical architect is really an engineer with an architect title. They focus more on the tech.
Business architect is similar to a business analyst
Sometimes.
Generally the business analyst does the research and makes recommendations.
Generally the business architect is about taking the information and transforming the organization with business process redesign, nee tech, new offerings etc
Having said that all of these roles have overlap and they don’t have clearly defined roles in many cases.
Very well explained. Thanks
Thank you Olivera
This is really insightful. Thank you
Thank you, Ameya!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
#cloudhired
Great insights.Thanks Mike
Thank you Kenny
Very interesting
Thank you
8:15 I’m a New PACS Administrator but want to become an Enterprise Architect. Great video !!!
That’s great. PACs might be a good start for a healthcare enterprise architect
@@GoCloudArchitects would your program help with my journey and if so which one?
Thanks 😊
Thank you!
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I would like to know about what degree or bachelor you graduated from in college
Hi!
Thank you for the question!
We offer our FREE How to Get Your First Cloud Job Webinar, where you can ask your cloud career questions, and I’ll answer them for you.
Please register for the next webinar at: gocloudcareers.com/free-cloud-webinar
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@@GoCloudArchitects Thanks
Hello, Mike. I specifically desire to be an enterprise architect (coming from a buidling architect / visual designer / entpreneur background.). How do I get started please? Also, the link to your LinkedIn page seems broken.
Hi. Thanks for reaching out. I’ll have my team look into the Linkin link
We replied to you on LinkedIn.
@@GoCloudArchitects Great! I got the replies. Anticipating!!
Wonderful
Wonderful insight!
Thank you Navneet
@@GoCloudArchitects welcome and keep going, you are providing useful information 👍
Thank you very much