@@sugar_plum_fairy A Bit. She didn't get that worst actress award (whatever it may be called) for nothing. Lol. However, I could see the possibility that her somewhat exaggerated performance could've helped to fuel a more "realistic" anger from Jack Nicholson towards Shelly Duvall. Perhaps said anger could help tremendously in his portrayal of his character. If he slowly begins to dislike Shelly more and more over the course of filming due to her 'over done performances', that would mirror Jack Torrens' slow growing hatred for Wendy. This may not make sense lol.
@@TheOneTrueKingg Wow, that's insane! But it does make sense. It's a very plausible theory, but one also very disturbing, imo. Thus, if that would actually be true, then the director and Jack Nicholson alike were, indeed, going a bit off their rocker..
did u asume my species? She had a mental breakdown 30 years after the release of The Shining. Idiots love to claim that The Shining/Kubrick were the reason for her deteriorated mental health, even though those claims are complete bullshit. The reason why they say that is because Kubrick was tough on Duvall while filming and she was noticeably stressed out (losing hair). I guess by claiming she was driven insane while filming just adds to the lore of Kubrick and The Shining.
OmegaWarrior101 she was tormented for hours on end every day of shooting and they filmed this exact scene 127 times, telling her she was a horrible actress every time they got it wrong. she was being mentally screwed during the filming of this entire movie, on screen and off screen.
I never was too impressed with it, or jack's performance for that matter, for whatever reason. But I DO feel for her strongly, knowing how Stanley harassed her and broke her down for the sake of the movie. She was going through a stressful time in her life otherwise, she has said, and so how he treated stressed her out to the point of taking quite ill on the set.
even so, that scene where shes "running" through the halls is pure shit. she was just terrible at that point. she even got nominated for a raspberry award for this role
@@EphemeralProductions That kind of reminds me of how actors like Marilyn Monroe and Marlon Brando had trouble dealing with certain directors during their careers. When Marilyn did "The Prince and the Showgirl," Laurence Olivier was an asshole to her. He didn't want to treat her like an actress or a person, but rather as the sex symbol that she had been branded as, and that really upset her. Marlon Brando said his least favorite movie he worked on was "Mutiny on the Bounty" because he and the two directors of the film clashed a lot over how bad the script was and how the directors didn't want him to change the script or the way he played his character to make the film better. They just wanted Marlon to do what he was told, but he wasn't going to be a slave to any director.
this scene overwhelmed her and was so real. she was forced to do it over 120 times. she was so dehydrated and stressed that her hair started falling out
In my opinion she would never have accepted this role if she knew that it would drive her to mental illness. Stephen king wants jessica lange to portray this character but stanley kubrick was more interested with Shelley Duvall. Poor Shelley
My addiction to Bts And got7 I highly recommend it. Not because its a "typical" scary movie. No jump scares or things like that. After watching it I was more terrified of the Dad and how insane he became. You can really feel her fear throughout the movie like you're there with her. The sad thing is that this scene in particular was filmed 127 times(something like that) and since they wanted her genuine reactions they made sure that even off set and when they weren't filming they treated her very poorly. And sadly now she's schizophrenic. Dr. Phil did an interview with her and she's very delusional. Its heartbreaking because her acting in this movie was fantastic. So seeing her crying, and feeling scared isn't acting. She's genuinely terrified.
Shelley’s Razzie award for this film was finally retracted this year in 2022. So glad she’s finally getting the credit she deserves for her perfectly convincing portrayal of terror in this film.
a lot of people make fun of Jack's performance in this film, but in this scene he is truly frightening and it's one the most believable portraits of insanity I've ever seen.
I often wonder if fans of the movie (besides me) take in that Jack Torrance is a despicable human being and deserves what he gets, or if they just think Jack Nicholson making quips and terrorizing a woman and child is cool. From the clips and comments I see that's the impression I get from a lot of people.
WHAT?! people make fun of this performance? You're joking, it's one of my all time favourite characters, nothing funny about it, absolutely outstanding acting.
@@dejanjocin4421 No, they were pretty clear in the beginning of the movie that he yanked his kids arm so hard that it came out of the socket. He was a drunk and abusive before hand, the hotel just amped it up.
Glad to see people in the comments defending Shelley's role. I remember watching this for the first time a few years ago and thought Jack and Shelley were two of the most convincing actors I've ever seen in any movie, ever.
I agree. Shelley's great here. By now everyone knows that her experience on this movie wasn't pleasant. Kubrick deliberately treated her like crap. He said he just wanted to get that hopeless reaction out of her but he crossed the line. No reason to treat her so horribly. People say she was a weakling and annoying. But how the character was written isn't Shelley's fault. She was just playing the role as best she could. To the point of mental and physical exhaustion. I put all that on Kubrick.
Kubric said he need to bully her to the point she will be scared and stressed all time, "Don’t sympathize with Shelley" he used to say in the set. Sadly this scarred her.
I bet when Jack Nicholson was saying "give me the bat" at the end, the actress was seeing Kubrick's face and hearing "do another take... do another take".
Fun fact: her crying and screaming is genuine, Stanley Kubrick was a perfectionist who stressed Shelley Duval (the actress) during this movie so much that clumps of her hair fell out during scenes.
I wonder if he didn't already assume "this woman won't be too hard to break into the perfect emotional state for this movie, may as well go with her" Kinda of a chicken and egg thing maybe? He definitely stressed her like you said though. This scene took over 150 takes, he told crew not to sympathize for her. That shit definitely isn't gonna do any good for her either. Check out her Interview with Dr. Phil if you wanna see how she's been recently(if she's even alive still? The interviews like 8 years old). I think he actually ended up deleting it and didn't want it to air because she came across so damaged, the interview is actually brutal(I honestly think Dr. Phil has a moment where he says "geesh lady... I can't air someone in THIS bad of state" which is saying A METRIC FUCKTON if it's coming from the professional of milking mental illness for views and profit)
She also listened to sad music to keep her spirits down, she said her body would fight her because it didn't want to be sad anymore, but the tears came anyway.
I truly do not understand why people think she's bad. Because she's not a sexy young lass with revealing outfits? She's one of the best actors I've ever seen! She looks truly terrified!
Chris Brown this is almost universally know as one of the best pieces of acting. If you don't like it go ahead and be a nonconformist, but don't shit all over the genius of Kubrick unless we can see great works of cinema you produced that are better.
Chris Brown You have to take in account her personality: she is dumb, shy, and doesn't dare oppose anyone, nor even kill a fly. I think her impersonation was spot on
Reason why she looks so terrified is cause before she didn't take it seriously and he terrorized her off set so this is her literally being scared to death by him, this isn't acting, this is her in absolute fear
2:40 I love how he's talking about "responsibilities," when Wendy has been taking the most care of the hotel, and he's just being fucking around with ghosts and partying the whole time.
People say she didn't do a good job acting in this film. I disagree. She was supposed to be an average woman not an intellectual or superhero. She played an average woman reacting to an extremely bizarre, terrifying situation. I think she played it perfectly. She forced viewers to have empathy toward her character and gradually desire for her to become the hero.
I feel so bad because yes the lines were written but that part wasn’t acting. The director made them do the scene 127 times and she was truly mortified by that movie. The shakiness in her voice is true. So sad
nah, she didn't do a good job..."In an interview with the BBC, King also criticized Shelley Duvall's performance in the film, stating "[S]he's basically just there to scream and be stupid, and that's not the woman that I wrote about."
People don't give Duvall nowhere near the credit she deserves. Everytime mom watches this movie, she tells me she would have been near-dead if she was the one cornered in the bathroom with a knife only and I think almost any woman would feel that way. This isn't Wonder Woman, it's a goddamn regular woman who has to deal with his physically superior insane husband and considering his innocent, cheerful personality, how the hell isn't she gonna be scared shitless of her partner suddenly chasing her with an axe?
Tbh king said that about her and then made a mini series version of the shining which well, let's just say that it is "a little" less better compared to the original
This scene is super scary. If you’ve ever felt real fear, you feel numb, like you don’t have complete control over yourself. Wendy swinging the bat and missing Jack again and again is super realistic, and really puts you in her shoes.
Not just scary, it's horrifying at best, because the actress wasn't just acting, she was REALLY at her limits in mental ways. She suffered a heavy abusive treatment during this movie.
The bat scene has the world record for number of takes. It was shot 127 times before Kubrick deemed it acceptable. Shelley Duval's seeming stress and exhaustion was not an act. She was really stressed. The Shining was the hardest role of her life.
@@Icantremelmebrm Nope, it is the unfortunate truth. It likely contributed to Shelly Duvall's descent into slow madness. She did 148 takes. The exhaustion and desperation in the scene was not acting at all. She was on the brink of a mental collapse.
@@GrownManPat ... It's because we are witnessing a form of emotional abuse. They tend to take away the extreme nature of the abuse they do to someone else by mocking them, especially in times like these. When emotions are at their highest.
Coyote no I just meant that women would likely be more afraid of this scene because, physically, they would never be able to overcome the man in this situation (although she does, temporarily). He is being abusive and is off his rocker, and she must feel terrified for her son’s safety.
Coyote oh, yeah, I didn’t mean any hate either and didn’t mean to ask it in a provocative way. I just genuinely didn’t know/ had never noticed that, so I was curious. My bad, I’m sorry
Shelley made this scene. I can think of any number of actors who could effectively portray Nicholson's role, but Duvall is the only actress who could ever play her part. The devastation, fear and exhaustion she portrays are so real. For this role specifically, no other person could fill her shoes.
I have to agree...to not take away from Nicholson's acting here, because there is no intention to do so and it's absolutely frightening and fantastic, but Duvall had the more difficult scene here. It's probably easier and more fun to play the villian...to play the victim (and 127 times at that), has to be taxing.
mini rant: Stephen King remade this because he was upset, and there had been a lot of criticism from his fans, that Wendy in Kubrick's version had been too wimpy. And whenever I hear that from King fans now, it makes me so angry. Wendy in this version is not some kind of horror movie hero. She's someone who is experiencing the crippling effects of extreme isolation as much as her husband is, and she's losing all composure as a result. Those comments ESPECIALLY make me angry after all that's come out about what Shelley Duvall was put through in filming this, and that her acting is largely a real response to a strenuous and abusive environment, as if any one of her critics could have withstood it more than she did. This scene is far more horrifying to watch than any scene in King's campy version.
I saw it when it came out in 1980, and although there are some fascinating sequences I didn't really like it then and I still don't. I've always thought Duvall gave the best performance in the film. Her reactions as the terror escalates are perfect, complete uncomprehending bewilderment, close to helplessly breaking down and then instinctive resourcefulness (locking her husband in the pantry) Horror movie heroines are usually directed to fit the flow of the action rather than to depict how a human being would actually respond when unreal, baffling and horrific things start crashing in on them. I think she's perfect; so on the surface, uncalculated and real.
You should actually watch King's version. It's a HELL of a lot more intense than Kubrick's. If anything, Kubrick's is the one that is "campy". Kubrick was a cinematographer, not a storyteller. The characters, setting, and conflict in the book/miniseries is a lot more gripping than Kubrick's movie.
I like to imagine that one day, in 50 years or whatever, Shelley Duvall's performance will be remembered and celebrated as the best horror film performance of all time. She deserves it. People were not ready for this kind of deep and honest expression of terror back then, the horror genre was still overstylized and over the top, but this performance was feral and instinctive. Kubrick broke her to bring this out and it's so sad how she turned out.
I think it is, and anyways for me I will always remember it. It is one of the best depictions of domestic abuse, i know its just a horror movie, but man my mom was just like this as a kid and while my dad never had a knife or weapon or such, he knocked the handle of the door trying to get into my mom’s room in a fit of rage. Nonetheless, Shelley is perfect, 100% perfect, absolutely nails it, anyone who’s seen or been victim of domestic abuse can recognise this.
It's not that good. Lol. I understand why Kubrick did it, and what he had to work with. I can tell she's not really that good of an actor. She's just bad in general.
Kubrick really had to push her to at least make it seem that Nicholson wasn't the only good actor. It's wierd because everyone else was really good, but Shelly Duval is just bad
I think for the most part, everyone that is an actual fan of the film and even people that just watched it casually, thought she did an amazing job. Just because the Razzies nominated her or whatever doesn’t mean anything to me. They have nominated many people that did not deserve it at all. Every single Shining video with acting or Shelley in it, all the comments are defending her performance so I think people overall liked her a lot in the film, and that it wouldn’t have been as good without her.
Can’t believe they filmed this scene 127 times! Just incredible. Even to this day, it baffles me that Shelley Duvall was nominated a Razzie for this. Her performance in this was intense and terrifyingly genuine.
Except it doesn't even make sense for her to be so terrified in this scene. She's terrified because what? Because her husband has been writing something strange? This causes her to have a complete mental breakdown to the point where she can't even speak? That's so dumb.
@@Piterixos - Just curious did you actually watch the film or did you just watch this one scene? Because her breakdown is pretty drawn out over the film and also has to do with the fact that Jack has abused their son before and has had a drinking problem. She was very clearly concerned about him before and this scene is her basically realizing her husband is gone, and that it poses a threat to both her and their child.
@@Piterixos i don’t understand how you could even ask that. If you saw the movie, you see the progression of the breakdown. He is about to attack her and then kill their son. Of course she’s terrified.
This acting (it wasn't even acting, tbh. It was genuine) is absolutely fantastic. You can see the terror in her body language and eyes. You don't need to be huge with screaming and large movements to show horrified feelings. She feels powerless and is only running on adrenaline.
I feel bad for Shelly. She tried her best, and didn't even know this was was an horror film, as this was her only Horror movie she was in. Kubrick pretty much did an number on her, and pretty much mentally tortured her, and she actually was scared at this scene because she was screamed and yelled at by Kubrick VERY aggressively for screwing up, because she was never in a serious role unlike Jack Nicholson. Like this scene was re-taken multiple times. They really should have recasted her, cause she's still haunted by Kubrick apparently.
Why recasted her lol?? She was a great actress. Her acting was fine. If they recasted they would’ve done the same thing to the next woman. The director just wanted the acting to be as real as possible.
@@decomposingdiamond7355 that’s,, literally what I said in different words. 💀 he would’ve just done the same shit to other actors. Idk why everyone is so against what I said when it’s literally what they’re all saying just in different wording .
What makes you think she wasn't already broken mentally and that's WHY he chose her? What the hell stopped her from ever going "fuck this guy, he's insane I'm out of here" and going along her merry way? Couldn't the argument be made that staying on a set THAT HOSTILE AND CRUEL would be evidence enough she was fucked in the head before hand? The filming techniques were cruel. Likely abuse by today's standards(and God fucking help Kubrick if anyone takes the lens of "Metoo" to any of his productions, smart move destroying unused footage on his part lol) but Holy shit some of you act like he literally just went and pimped out a newly born infant who never got a chance to learn a fucking word. And imagine how it must be for her now, all of a sudden thanks to a few bits of trivia, the whole world knows her as "that crazy bitch who lost her mind on the shining", none of her relatives death's played a role, none of her past relationships, childhood traumas, none of that. You're just a washed up actress who lost her mind on a set for internet needs to pretend charity and compassion and get pats on the back for.
“You’ve had your whole FUCKING LIFE, to think things over. What good’s a few minutes more gonna do you now?” that has to be one of the best line deliveries in the film. just incredible.
Of course, Jack Nicholson gave one of the greatest performances in the history of cinema, but Shelley Duvall's performance is underrated. Her performance in this scene in particular is absolutely brilliant.
Stephen King understood from experience the change in personality that comes from being a drunk. The sweetest person can turn into a monster. Alcohol just unleashes the demon beneath the happy demeanor.
What makes this scene so dam scary, is the degree of Jacks madness. How he is moving towards her like a vicious predator ready to pounce and kill. His state of instability is so heightened, there is no way to stop it, so its like if you make one wrong subtle move, he'll unleash like a Viper and kill you. It's actually an extremely menacing scene.
@@muzoshii2200 yeah it's sad because, she was very mistreated even when they weren't filming. She would get really sick from crying so much she got dehydrated. It's sad that now she's schizophrenic.
Some people apparently hate Shelley Duvall in this movie (including Stephen King himself). I guess she doesn't fit in their idea of a horror film scream queen - she looks and acts like she's genuinely scared.
Exactly. I think it's so good it makes some people uncomfortable and so they irrationally hate her for it. They don't like seeing a woman truly terrified and messed up like this. I think it's more the character people hate rather than the actress. They want her to stand up and stop being a push over but this isn't your typical horror slasher with the empowered heroine. It's a disturbing, unsettling look at domestic abuse taken to the extreme.
I don't know why people think Shelley Duvall is ugly. She looked really adorable in that scene where Jack yells at her for disturbing him from his writing.
Don Draper I have to respectively disagree. Wendy in the book might not respond to situations with the hysteria Duvall conveys in this film, and she's supposed to be hot I guess. But Wendy in the movie saves herself and her son, withstands far more abuse throughout the film than Wendy does in the book (up until Jack attacks her in the book, nothing happens to her personally) and is credited with being more resourceful than she initially presented herself to be BY THE GHOSTS THEMSELVES. And she starts off at much lower and more vulnerable place. Honestly if my husband told me to my face while backing me up stairs that he was going to bash my head in, I'd probably break down crying too. That she manages to find the fortitude to get herself and her kid the hell out of the hotel proves her to be a strong character. I think she has a much more thorough arch than in the novel. In the book, Wendy might having thicker skin but she's just as passive as King says Duvall's Wendy is, she only knocks Jack out because Danny distracts him and once the climax of the book starts, King disposes of her by having her pass out and never fully regaining consciousness. She plays literally no role whatsoever in protecting Danny, ultimately proving to be totally useless once the shit hits the fan. Does that make her a bad or uninteresting character? Certainly not. But I think the idea that she's "stronger" than Duvall's Wendy is pretty easy to dispute. Kubrick's movie actually pivots on Wendy getting it together and taking action. She essentially becomes the primary protagonist and the audience surrogate. King has to literally dispose of her so that the finale of the book can happen. Obviously this is just my own opinion. But I think Duvall's Wendy is an accurate depiction of a real human in extreme circumstances, responding spontaneously in the moment to what's being thrown at her. The Wendy in the novel is surely a compelling character, but that's all she is, a character who would only ever exist in a novel.
I feel bad for Shelley Duvall I hated her first. But they shot this scene 127 times I would be that stressed and frightened in real life if I had to go through that.
Jess Brajer i know it sounds terrible but to an extent it helped her performance but i feel sorry for her cause she did end up going crazy apparantly her neighbours say she is always telling people aliens are living in her backyard and she always looks terrified but thats just a rumor
So bizarre anyone could say this is bad acting. This is so realistic and you really feel for her and want to protect her. I remember thinking how well she played a concerned mother and wife. Such a bummer talentless critics could see this as a poor performance
This was also done to actually cause stress to the female actress and those tears are supposedly real. This is what I have read, don't cite me on that.
Coming here after finding out the incredibly talented Shelley Duvall has passed away 😔 she deserved so much better, but I hope she knew how much she was treasured by horror fans around the globe. Her performance in this movie is unforgettable, for all the right reasons
This is beyond raw genius. It's at a level that the current generation of actors can never possibly hope to achieve. Jack Nicholson will go down as one of the all time greats. Shelley Duvall was seriously underappreciated. Her acting here was tremendous.
Viraf Karai I agree especially about duvall being underappreciated....at that time she was one of the best actresses of her time, and the boy playing ranny actually does look like her
the reason their acting was so good was because they went through 127 takes so i dunno if i would even consider it acting as much as it was just duval being genuinely terrified and jack going genuinely insane
oh pls...even King said this about her...In an interview with the BBC, King also criticized Shelley Duvall's performance in the film, stating "[S]he's basically just there to scream and be stupid, and that's not the woman that I wrote about.'
Grandizer12 king also hates the movie with practically everything in his heart. He criticized the writing, performances of both nick Danny and Wendy, and just Hates Spielberg in general
3:45 to 4:49 just shows you how talented Nicholson is! Look at how he approaches her with an evil voice and then goes soft and gentle to try and win her around. That minute or show just explains to you why he won oscars!
Megs Smart Thinking I love how the music fades out at 4:19 along with the sudden shift in the intensity of Jack's energy. As he suddenly goes from perverse to more serious. Truly convincingly frightening.
if she had to do it 127 times then so did he... he looked crazy here im glad i saw this as a teen and not with everyone spoiling what kubrick did to the actors on set. this movie moved my soul... now I just think kubrick is a mean bully...
Maybe it was about Danny. Maybe it was about him. I think we should discuss Danny. I think we should discuss what should be done with him. What should be done with him? I love the hidden poetry here.
Anastasia Lambert Truly terrifying. Imagine being confronted like this.. knowing there's no where to escape... there's no one that can help you... I think Shelley is really scared in this scene, unless she's that good of an actress. I can feel her fear.
4:09 Best moment of the entire thing. The way he dangles his arms after crazily chuckling really shows just how mentally insane Jack has become at this point in the film. He walks forwards towards her like a dummy.
This scene is so painful to watch knowing they did it 127 times and that she was so heavily abused on set. She did absolutely fantastic! The fact that she was nominated for worst actress is unbelievable. Maybe the fact that she was so heavily abused played into her very emotional and terrified performance. Partially, she wasn't acting.
The academy purposely did that because she spoke out about her mistreatment. Guarantee if she just let herself be abused & stayed silent she would’ve won an award
@@virtualmartini its abuse to make someone so stressed their hair falls out and they get traumatized. Plus, kubric told everyone to ignore shelly, he was emotionally abusive, he was a bad person
"You've had your whole FUCKING life to think things over. What good's a few minutes more gonna do you now?" - sick. I always found that amusing though :D
god damn, what a great performance. you gotta love how jack was almost romantic about it when he said 'bash them right the fuuuck in' then laughs, his cadence while delivering that line is genius
Poor Shelley. I think she did wonderful in this role. Even Jack Nicholson said he's never seen an actor work so hard or endure so much as Shelley. People give her crap and laugh but she busted her ass working on this film. Kubrick put her through total hell. She isn't acting here. Those tears and that hopeless, exhausted expression on her face is completely real. I wonder if her experience on this film is why she's so messed up now. Or at least one of the reasons. I feel so awful for her.
This is one of the best scenes in the movie and one of the most suspenseful scenes in cinema, but the way jack mimics Wendy's "as soon as possible" will always take me out of it for a second and laugh
RIP Shelley, this scene she gave everything to. So much emotion, she was incredible. She deserved sooo much better than Hollywood gave her. 🩵 This scene is iconic.
“Has it ever occurred to you that I have agreed to look after the Overlook Hotel until May the 1st?!” That line randomly popped into my head today while I was doing the laundry lol
shelley duvalls performance in this film is top notch! she really portrayed a woman brought to her breaking point and cocooned in pure terror. i cant believe the razzies were dumb enough at the time to nominate her as well as kubrick for worst director.
There are rumors that Shelley was actually not just acting this part, but the emotions she expressed in this scene were actually real, not acting. Rumors are that she was even like this even when the camera wasn’t rolling. The reason why is because this scene was redone 127 times. Rumor is also that Stanley Kubrick purposely wore her out in order for her to do the act well
@@thebosstex1172 Kubrick was not the one to take care of his actors well, he would burn them out to breaking point. This was taken a hundred and twenty-seven times
King: how do you like it? Kubrick: ahhhhh Stephen King: how do you like it? what are you doing down here? Kubrick: I just wanted to talk to you. King: ok... lets talk... what do you wanna talk about? Kubrick: I can’t... really... remember. King: you can’t remember. Maybe it was about the movie. Maybe it was about it. I think we should discuss the film. I think we should discuss what should be done with it. What should be done with it? Kubrick: I don’t know. King: I don’t think that’s true. I think you have some very diffident ideas on what should be done with the film and I’d like to know what they are. Kubrick: I think maybe... jack should have an axe. King: you think maybe jack should have an axe. Kubrick: yes King: and when do you think maybe jack should have an axe? Kubrick: at the very end. King: aT tHE VeRy eNd. Kubrick: Stephen... please. King: you Think this movie might be a stake? Kubrick: yes King: you are concerned about it. Kubrick: yes King: and are you concerned about me? Kubrick: of course I am. King: Of Course you are. Have you ever thought about my responsibilities? Kubrick: ohhhh Stephen what are you talking about. King: have you ever thought for a single solitary moment about my responsibilities for my novels? Has it ever occurred to you that I’ve agreed to have the novel made in my vision, that I wrote for hours at a time, that I signed to make a movie out of it, a contract in which I am entitled to see my vision of this novel to come to life? Do you have the slightest idea what a moral or ethical principle is? do you? Has it ever occurred to you what could happen to my future if the movie didn’t live up to the book? Has it ever occurred to you? HAS IT? Kubrick: get away from me. King: why? Kubrick: I just wanna go back to filming the movie. King: why? Kubrick: I just need a chance to think things over. King: you’ve had your whole fucking production to think things over!!!! What good is a few minutes more gonna do you now. Kubrick: get away from me!!!! Don’t sue me. King: I’m not gonna sue you. Stanley... sir... light of my film... I’m not gonna sue ya... you didn’t let me finish my sentence I said I’m not going to sue ya I’m just gonna bash this film in hahaha I’m gonna bash it right the fuck in. Kubrick: get away. King: I’m not gonna sue you. Kubrick: get away. King: stop filming the movie. Put the camera down Stanley. Give me the film. Stop filming the movie. Give me the film. STANLEY. Give me the film. give me the film. (Movie becomes huge) ohhhhh god damn it.
***** u know when he says hes gong to bash her brains in yeah i just had to chase a mouse around my living room and i eventually got so annoyed i start saying that entire scene to the mouse im going crazy hahaha
The only reason that people criticize this scene (or this movie) is because they have not lived with anyone who struggles with mental health issues, or have never been in an abusive relationship. As a person who has experienced them both, I would say that this is VERY accurate. Both performances were so convincing, I am spellbound by their expressions and words. #1 scariest movie of all time, hands down. Prove me wrong.
I swear, they'd better not do a remake of this film like they've already done to ruin other masterpieces... No remake will ever come close to this masterpiece... The Shining is an example that well-crafted dialogues, masterfully orchestrated score, a cast with talent, brilliant cinematography, and a dedicated director can build a horror film without jump scares or poorly applied CGI.
She looks SO tired! Like she can’t even hold herself onto her feet. She looks like she’d been running for miles and miles before this scene was shot.
Chicken Wing I know. I just think they exaggerated on that and the result wasn’t the best 🤷🏻♀️
And boy was it worth it.
The One True King kinda. I don’t agree. She just looks overly tired and stressed and way out of proportion terrified
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A Bit. She didn't get that worst actress award (whatever it may be called) for nothing. Lol.
However, I could see the possibility that her somewhat exaggerated performance could've helped to fuel a more "realistic" anger from Jack Nicholson towards Shelly Duvall. Perhaps said anger could help tremendously in his portrayal of his character. If he slowly begins to dislike Shelly more and more over the course of filming due to her 'over done performances', that would mirror Jack Torrens' slow growing hatred for Wendy.
This may not make sense lol.
@@TheOneTrueKingg Wow, that's insane! But it does make sense. It's a very plausible theory, but one also very disturbing, imo. Thus, if that would actually be true, then the director and Jack Nicholson alike were, indeed, going a bit off their rocker..
Jack Nicholson said she was the most talented actress he ever worked with.
And let’s not forget he has worked with nurse Ratched
Awe, that's sweet of him.
That’s a pretty big statement coming from a legend like Nicholson
Wow. And he worked with Louise Fletcher as Nurse Ratched too. Shelley Duvall was great in this film.
You get the joke?
The fact she was nominated for worst actress is so ridiculous. This movie took so much out if her, not to mention she is very convincing.
bro this is 127 takes long --- this almost killed her --- Kubric was brutal
the bat scene is 127 takes
That's a thing? Worst actress?
Cameron Santiago apparently. So cringeworthy
Callsign Static he was abusive!
Rip Shelley Duvall.
She really helped make this movie a masterpiece.
her acting is great because she's not acting lol, kubrick nearly drove her insane
Nearly?
She was dehydrated from crying so much that there were no more tears
"Nearly" dude have you seen her now?
Now she is insane :(
nobody really 127 takes god damn
She was driven insane,those tears are real she really cried this whole movie
did u asume my species? Countless sources full of research and Shelly Duvall herself
did u asume my species? She had a mental breakdown 30 years after the release of The Shining. Idiots love to claim that The Shining/Kubrick were the reason for her deteriorated mental health, even though those claims are complete bullshit. The reason why they say that is because Kubrick was tough on Duvall while filming and she was noticeably stressed out (losing hair). I guess by claiming she was driven insane while filming just adds to the lore of Kubrick and The Shining.
How was she scared? Honestly liked did she not know it was fake?
OmegaWarrior101 she was tormented for hours on end every day of shooting and they filmed this exact scene 127 times, telling her she was a horrible actress every time they got it wrong. she was being mentally screwed during the filming of this entire movie, on screen and off screen.
did u asume my species? Cause working with Kubrick was excruciating for her
Shelley's performance breaks my heart, specially considering how stressed she was on set :(
I never was too impressed with it, or jack's performance for that matter, for whatever reason. But I DO feel for her strongly, knowing how Stanley harassed her and broke her down for the sake of the movie. She was going through a stressful time in her life otherwise, she has said, and so how he treated stressed her out to the point of taking quite ill on the set.
even so, that scene where shes "running" through the halls is pure shit. she was just terrible at that point. she even got nominated for a raspberry award for this role
Yup. Understandable. Lol
theseaweedguy So did Kubrick.
@@EphemeralProductions That kind of reminds me of how actors like Marilyn Monroe and Marlon Brando had trouble dealing with certain directors during their careers. When Marilyn did "The Prince and the Showgirl," Laurence Olivier was an asshole to her. He didn't want to treat her like an actress or a person, but rather as the sex symbol that she had been branded as, and that really upset her. Marlon Brando said his least favorite movie he worked on was "Mutiny on the Bounty" because he and the two directors of the film clashed a lot over how bad the script was and how the directors didn't want him to change the script or the way he played his character to make the film better. They just wanted Marlon to do what he was told, but he wasn't going to be a slave to any director.
Just found out we lost Shelley. Rest in peace to a legendary performer :((
Awww no way! May she rest in peace. She deserved so much better
this scene overwhelmed her and was so real. she was forced to do it over 120 times. she was so dehydrated and stressed that her hair started falling out
I mean, for real?? Why did she have to sustain al that? She was already famous, why go through all that abuse?
@@83loveanimals the director mentally abused her and made her believe that she'd be blacklisted from Hollywood if she tried to leave the movie.
That’s horrible
it's said that they did it 127 times... like... wow
120 times? that is waaaay to excessive
Worst actress? She was actually terrified, she nailed the scene.
I know right! She had to go through so much to do this movie to only be called the worst actor.
Damn right she did
In my opinion she would never have accepted this role if she knew that it would drive her to mental illness. Stephen king wants jessica lange to portray this character but stanley kubrick was more interested with Shelley Duvall. Poor Shelley
Literally nobody called her the worst actress
@@WakaWaka2468 look at the comments
I can't believe they nominated her for worst actress for this film... she's so convincingly terrified
jtv612 I loved her! But it breaks my heart knowing how damaged she is now because of this movie. It was too much for her
She really was scared..shame what this movie did to her
Xiomara Videz I’ve never seen this movie before but that’s so sad that filming this was that traumatizing for her
My addiction to Bts And got7 I highly recommend it. Not because its a "typical" scary movie. No jump scares or things like that. After watching it I was more terrified of the Dad and how insane he became. You can really feel her fear throughout the movie like you're there with her. The sad thing is that this scene in particular was filmed 127 times(something like that) and since they wanted her genuine reactions they made sure that even off set and when they weren't filming they treated her very poorly. And sadly now she's schizophrenic. Dr. Phil did an interview with her and she's very delusional. Its heartbreaking because her acting in this movie was fantastic. So seeing her crying, and feeling scared isn't acting. She's genuinely terrified.
It's not even acting; she's genuinely terrified and stressed.
Shelley’s Razzie award for this film was finally retracted this year in 2022. So glad she’s finally getting the credit she deserves for her perfectly convincing portrayal of terror in this film.
Honestly, that's wonderful to hear
I’m happy about that. People don’t seem to realize just how incredible she is an actress.
@@cheekyhazelnut It's a lot sadder when you realize that scene was a genuine response after a abusive treatment in backstage.
a lot of people make fun of Jack's performance in this film, but in this scene he is truly frightening and it's one the most believable portraits of insanity I've ever seen.
I often wonder if fans of the movie (besides me) take in that Jack Torrance is a despicable human being and deserves what he gets, or if they just think Jack Nicholson making quips and terrorizing a woman and child is cool. From the clips and comments I see that's the impression I get from a lot of people.
Nothing wrong with liking things about bad people. I do. I just wonder what perspective some people commenting have.
WHAT?! people make fun of this performance? You're joking, it's one of my all time favourite characters, nothing funny about it, absolutely outstanding acting.
***** some people say he goes over the top. Which he kinda does at times, but he's still frightening.
Danilo Pochini
going over the top portrays the mad character 100x better though? He's meant to look like a psycho
The most terrifying abusive husband in cinematic history. Brilliant performance by both Jack and Shelly.
KN 1215 he wasn’t abusive, he was being influenced
He wasn't abusive, he was driven insane by ghosts in hotel.
@@dejanjocin4421 No, they were pretty clear in the beginning of the movie that he yanked his kids arm so hard that it came out of the socket. He was a drunk and abusive before hand, the hotel just amped it up.
Jon Miranda oh, so true and sad ☹️
I’m your 💯 like
“Wendy, darling, light of my life...”
Wendy, I'm home.
@Mary Sutton one of my favorite lines in the movie
When you just read it like that, out of context, it sounds very sweet
imakegoats My favorite is “You’ve had your entire fucking life to think things over, What good will a few more minutes do you now?”
@@thegroup9025 Jack said you've had your whole fucking life to think things over what's a few minutes more gonna do you now
Glad to see people in the comments defending Shelley's role. I remember watching this for the first time a few years ago and thought Jack and Shelley were two of the most convincing actors I've ever seen in any movie, ever.
I agree. Shelley's great here. By now everyone knows that her experience on this movie wasn't pleasant. Kubrick deliberately treated her like crap. He said he just wanted to get that hopeless reaction out of her but he crossed the line. No reason to treat her so horribly. People say she was a weakling and annoying. But how the character was written isn't Shelley's fault. She was just playing the role as best she could. To the point of mental and physical exhaustion. I put all that on Kubrick.
Kubric said he need to bully her to the point she will be scared and stressed all time, "Don’t sympathize with Shelley" he used to say in the set.
Sadly this scarred her.
He may be a Genius
But he'll always be a monster for doing something like this....poor creature
I reckon it's great.
i know.
he got an amazing performance out of her with the downside being fucking her up mentally to this day. Poor Shelley.
No movie is worth real trauma
“as soon as possible!”
“aS sOoN aS pOsSiBle” LMFAOOOO
thank you!💘
I Laugh Out Loud Every Time!
Joey Owens 🤣
*jack fucking chops the door down and says in a nice sane voice* wendy! Im home😆😈
I'm gonna bash right the FUCK in ! ahahahaha
my God... he doesn't blink. That whole time she's swinging, he doesn't blink!
Ryan Heppel thats because they did it 127 times
That´s because you`re blinking at the same time as him, so you can`t see it ;)
@@interestedviewer2081 Oh stop it.
@@LoinclothRising As soon as possible?
Make that the WHOLE scene too! Crazy!
RIP Shelley Duvall (July 7, 1949 - July 11, 2024), aged 75
You will be remembered as a legend.
I bet when Jack Nicholson was saying "give me the bat" at the end, the actress was seeing Kubrick's face and hearing "do another take... do another take".
LOL! Explains her screaming right at the end of the scene, too...when it's fading to her dragging him. :>
***** LOL with Jack Nicholson.. there are NO EXTRA TAKES.. you either get your lines right ... or you have him on your back
Just don't sleep for one day take orders from somebody like Kubrick and u would blow the worst shit of your humanity like Nicholson here
what?..
Rob Thompson wasn't many "takes".. with Jack,get your lines right or else
Fun fact: her crying and screaming is genuine, Stanley Kubrick was a perfectionist who stressed Shelley Duval (the actress) during this movie so much that clumps of her hair fell out during scenes.
Damn wth
what's fun about this fact
I wonder if he didn't already assume "this woman won't be too hard to break into the perfect emotional state for this movie, may as well go with her"
Kinda of a chicken and egg thing maybe?
He definitely stressed her like you said though. This scene took over 150 takes, he told crew not to sympathize for her. That shit definitely isn't gonna do any good for her either.
Check out her Interview with Dr. Phil if you wanna see how she's been recently(if she's even alive still? The interviews like 8 years old). I think he actually ended up deleting it and didn't want it to air because she came across so damaged, the interview is actually brutal(I honestly think Dr. Phil has a moment where he says "geesh lady... I can't air someone in THIS bad of state" which is saying A METRIC FUCKTON if it's coming from the professional of milking mental illness for views and profit)
It is a very abusive strategy but if it wasn’t abusive like it was, the scene would t have been nearly as good as it is.
She also listened to sad music to keep her spirits down, she said her body would fight her because it didn't want to be sad anymore, but the tears came anyway.
I truly do not understand why people think she's bad. Because she's not a sexy young lass with revealing outfits? She's one of the best actors I've ever seen! She looks truly terrified!
The only reason she looks terrified is because Stanley Kubrick is standing off-camera ready to tear her paycheck up for that awful acting!
Chris Brown this is almost universally know as one of the best pieces of acting. If you don't like it go ahead and be a nonconformist, but don't shit all over the genius of Kubrick unless we can see great works of cinema you produced that are better.
Chris Brown You have to take in account her personality: she is dumb, shy, and doesn't dare oppose anyone, nor even kill a fly. I think her impersonation was spot on
LMAO!!!! genius of Kubrick??? HAHAHAHAHA!!! Try reading the book and you'll see how much he actually BUTCHERED the story.
Reason why she looks so terrified is cause before she didn't take it seriously and he terrorized her off set so this is her literally being scared to death by him, this isn't acting, this is her in absolute fear
Even Jack Nicolson once said that she's the most talented actress he'd ever worked with. RIP Shelly Duvall 🙏.
That "ha ha" after he says "I'm gonna bash em right the fuck in"
Perfection of insanity
What are you doing down here?
I love the line "Light Of My Life", it's so distinctive.
+Safespace Invader I......just eh..wanted to talk to you
The saddest part was that she wasn’t even acting anymore. She was actually terrified.
No she wasnt
@@mell_yzma4726 Kubrick was not exactly nice to her during the filming.
@@mell_yzma4726 don’t comment shit without information
@@mell_yzma4726yes she was
@@noraabb what r u yapping about
2:40 I love how he's talking about "responsibilities," when Wendy has been taking the most care of the hotel, and he's just being fucking around with ghosts and partying the whole time.
My guy Jack hangs out with ghosts
I love how he's like "you've had your whole fucking life to think things over", I don't know why but that line is hilarious
I love how he referred to it as "my future" singularly personifying it instead of saying "our/their" future. So subtle, yet so scary.
You love really easy
People say she didn't do a good job acting in this film. I disagree. She was supposed to be an average woman not an intellectual or superhero. She played an average woman reacting to an extremely bizarre, terrifying situation. I think she played it perfectly. She forced viewers to have empathy toward her character and gradually desire for her to become the hero.
I feel so bad because yes the lines were written but that part wasn’t acting. The director made them do the scene 127 times and she was truly mortified by that movie. The shakiness in her voice is true. So sad
nah, she didn't do a good job..."In an interview with the BBC, King also criticized Shelley Duvall's performance in the film, stating "[S]he's basically just there to scream and be stupid, and that's not the woman that I wrote about."
People don't give Duvall nowhere near the credit she deserves. Everytime mom watches this movie, she tells me she would have been near-dead if she was the one cornered in the bathroom with a knife only and I think almost any woman would feel that way.
This isn't Wonder Woman, it's a goddamn regular woman who has to deal with his physically superior insane husband and considering his innocent, cheerful personality, how the hell isn't she gonna be scared shitless of her partner suddenly chasing her with an axe?
@@drewstar412 well Rebecca dorme who played Wendy in the Stephen King remake did exactly do a Emmy performance herself
Tbh king said that about her and then made a mini series version of the shining which well, let's just say that it is "a little" less better compared to the original
This scene is super scary. If you’ve ever felt real fear, you feel numb, like you don’t have complete control over yourself. Wendy swinging the bat and missing Jack again and again is super realistic, and really puts you in her shoes.
I don’t think she was missing him at all. She was just trying to keep him at a distance, not to actually hit him.
Not just scary, it's horrifying at best, because the actress wasn't just acting, she was REALLY at her limits in mental ways. She suffered a heavy abusive treatment during this movie.
Shelley Duvall's performance is friggin' amazing.
Can't believe she got a Razzie nomination
She worked really hard for that razzie I think she deserves it
probably because they did the this scene 127 times
Especially since unlike Nicholson she wasn't playing herself.
It was a little overracted. But she was good imo
The bat scene has the world record for number of takes. It was shot 127 times before Kubrick deemed it acceptable. Shelley Duval's seeming stress and exhaustion was not an act. She was really stressed. The Shining was the hardest role of her life.
Thanks for sharing and here's me thinking her most difficult role was in Suburban Commando with Hulk Hogan
Doesn’t the Rosebud scene have more takes?
U are lying. Its not the record
Shame on u
@@Icantremelmebrm Nope, it is the unfortunate truth. It likely contributed to Shelly Duvall's descent into slow madness. She did 148 takes. The exhaustion and desperation in the scene was not acting at all. She was on the brink of a mental collapse.
@@indridcold8433 there was one scene with 300+ takes
Wendy: As soon as possible?!
Jack: aS sOoN aS pOsSibLE?!
😜
F**king horrifying
GrownMan Pat Homer looking at himself in the mirror was 1000x horrifying and gave me nightmares.
Patrick PLEASE 😩
@@GrownManPat ... It's because we are witnessing a form of emotional abuse. They tend to take away the extreme nature of the abuse they do to someone else by mocking them, especially in times like these. When emotions are at their highest.
Only a mother can fully understand the true horror of this scene. She’s so protective over Danny it’s incredibly sad..
Coyote no I just meant that women would likely be more afraid of this scene because, physically, they would never be able to overcome the man in this situation (although she does, temporarily). He is being abusive and is off his rocker, and she must feel terrified for her son’s safety.
Coyote what do you mean with that? Do women swinging bats and weapons in movies always end up being hurt? Do they always get in danger? Why?
Coyote oh, yeah, I didn’t mean any hate either and didn’t mean to ask it in a provocative way. I just genuinely didn’t know/ had never noticed that, so I was curious. My bad, I’m sorry
Coyote and thank you!
Coyote ohh, ok
Shelley made this scene. I can think of any number of actors who could effectively portray Nicholson's role, but Duvall is the only actress who could ever play her part. The devastation, fear and exhaustion she portrays are so real. For this role specifically, no other person could fill her shoes.
Nonsense, Nicholson's intensity is terrifying.
That could be because made her do 127 takes... but I agree, she is phenomenal in this movie
I have to agree...to not take away from Nicholson's acting here, because there is no intention to do so and it's absolutely frightening and fantastic, but Duvall had the more difficult scene here. It's probably easier and more fun to play the villian...to play the victim (and 127 times at that), has to be taxing.
Wes so very true, her performance is sublime.
That’s because she really is terrified
mini rant: Stephen King remade this because he was upset, and there had been a lot of criticism from his fans, that Wendy in Kubrick's version had been too wimpy. And whenever I hear that from King fans now, it makes me so angry. Wendy in this version is not some kind of horror movie hero. She's someone who is experiencing the crippling effects of extreme isolation as much as her husband is, and she's losing all composure as a result. Those comments ESPECIALLY make me angry after all that's come out about what Shelley Duvall was put through in filming this, and that her acting is largely a real response to a strenuous and abusive environment, as if any one of her critics could have withstood it more than she did. This scene is far more horrifying to watch than any scene in King's campy version.
I saw it when it came out in 1980, and although there are some fascinating sequences I didn't really like it then and I still don't. I've always thought Duvall gave the best performance in the film. Her reactions as the terror escalates are perfect, complete uncomprehending bewilderment, close to helplessly breaking down and then instinctive resourcefulness (locking her husband in the pantry) Horror movie heroines are usually directed to fit the flow of the action rather than to depict how a human being would actually respond when unreal, baffling and horrific things start crashing in on them. I think she's perfect; so on the surface, uncalculated and real.
Right?? And Kubrick made his actors and staff to "don't sympathize to Shelly". Abusive and deconstructive direction method.
You should actually watch King's version. It's a HELL of a lot more intense than Kubrick's. If anything, Kubrick's is the one that is "campy".
Kubrick was a cinematographer, not a storyteller. The characters, setting, and conflict in the book/miniseries is a lot more gripping than Kubrick's movie.
With all my flaws with this movie as an adaptation, Wendy is not one of them honestly
Agree 100%, King was lucky to have Kubrick adapt his middling 5/10 novel
I like to imagine that one day, in 50 years or whatever, Shelley Duvall's performance will be remembered and celebrated as the best horror film performance of all time. She deserves it. People were not ready for this kind of deep and honest expression of terror back then, the horror genre was still overstylized and over the top, but this performance was feral and instinctive. Kubrick broke her to bring this out and it's so sad how she turned out.
They just rescinded her Razzie Award for this. That's a start.
I think it is, and anyways for me I will always remember it. It is one of the best depictions of domestic abuse, i know its just a horror movie, but man my mom was just like this as a kid and while my dad never had a knife or weapon or such, he knocked the handle of the door trying to get into my mom’s room in a fit of rage. Nonetheless, Shelley is perfect, 100% perfect, absolutely nails it, anyone who’s seen or been victim of domestic abuse can recognise this.
It's not that good. Lol. I understand why Kubrick did it, and what he had to work with. I can tell she's not really that good of an actor. She's just bad in general.
Kubrick really had to push her to at least make it seem that Nicholson wasn't the only good actor. It's wierd because everyone else was really good, but Shelly Duval is just bad
I think for the most part, everyone that is an actual fan of the film and even people that just watched it casually, thought she did an amazing job. Just because the Razzies nominated her or whatever doesn’t mean anything to me. They have nominated many people that did not deserve it at all. Every single Shining video with acting or Shelley in it, all the comments are defending her performance so I think people overall liked her a lot in the film, and that it wouldn’t have been as good without her.
4:27 it’s so sad and tragic she begs him to stop, she’s really perfect in this scene. Kubrick was really a bellend for putting her through that shit.
yeah as much as I love Kubrick movies he was a total dick to his actors, but that helped the realism of the acting I guess.
I hate how Kubrick acted towards his actors but you have to admit, it got results.
Not a bellend, a master.
Totally devoted to his craft
@@clifftheplanteddvd6330 more like a fuckin asshole
lol this parts in the simpsons aswell aha
Can’t believe they filmed this scene 127 times! Just incredible. Even to this day, it baffles me that Shelley Duvall was nominated a Razzie for this. Her performance in this was intense and terrifyingly genuine.
it was genuine. every cry and scream she did in this movie was real. she was genuinely scared and the people working on this movie drove her insane
Except it doesn't even make sense for her to be so terrified in this scene. She's terrified because what? Because her husband has been writing something strange? This causes her to have a complete mental breakdown to the point where she can't even speak? That's so dumb.
@@Piterixos Blame Stanley Kubrick for literally terrorizing and abusing the actress so she would seem genuinely broken.
@@Piterixos - Just curious did you actually watch the film or did you just watch this one scene? Because her breakdown is pretty drawn out over the film and also has to do with the fact that Jack has abused their son before and has had a drinking problem. She was very clearly concerned about him before and this scene is her basically realizing her husband is gone, and that it poses a threat to both her and their child.
@@Piterixos i don’t understand how you could even ask that. If you saw the movie, you see the progression of the breakdown. He is about to attack her and then kill their son. Of course she’s terrified.
This acting (it wasn't even acting, tbh. It was genuine) is absolutely fantastic. You can see the terror in her body language and eyes. You don't need to be huge with screaming and large movements to show horrified feelings. She feels powerless and is only running on adrenaline.
I feel bad for Shelly. She tried her best, and didn't even know this was was an horror film, as this was her only Horror movie she was in. Kubrick pretty much did an number on her, and pretty much mentally tortured her, and she actually was scared at this scene because she was screamed and yelled at by Kubrick VERY aggressively for screwing up, because she was never in a serious role unlike Jack Nicholson. Like this scene was re-taken multiple times. They really should have recasted her, cause she's still haunted by Kubrick apparently.
Why recasted her lol?? She was a great actress. Her acting was fine. If they recasted they would’ve done the same thing to the next woman. The director just wanted the acting to be as real as possible.
@@invaderrash she is still recovering from the trauma.... search and then talk
@@invaderrash
..... Because she was tortured ._.
@@decomposingdiamond7355 that’s,, literally what I said in different words. 💀 he would’ve just done the same shit to other actors. Idk why everyone is so against what I said when it’s literally what they’re all saying just in different wording .
What makes you think she wasn't already broken mentally and that's WHY he chose her? What the hell stopped her from ever going "fuck this guy, he's insane I'm out of here" and going along her merry way? Couldn't the argument be made that staying on a set THAT HOSTILE AND CRUEL would be evidence enough she was fucked in the head before hand?
The filming techniques were cruel. Likely abuse by today's standards(and God fucking help Kubrick if anyone takes the lens of "Metoo" to any of his productions, smart move destroying unused footage on his part lol) but Holy shit some of you act like he literally just went and pimped out a newly born infant who never got a chance to learn a fucking word.
And imagine how it must be for her now, all of a sudden thanks to a few bits of trivia, the whole world knows her as "that crazy bitch who lost her mind on the shining", none of her relatives death's played a role, none of her past relationships, childhood traumas, none of that. You're just a washed up actress who lost her mind on a set for internet needs to pretend charity and compassion and get pats on the back for.
“You’ve had your whole FUCKING LIFE, to think things over. What good’s a few minutes more gonna do you now?”
that has to be one of the best line deliveries in the film. just incredible.
it's so abusive and raw. excellent writing.
Nobody ever talks about that line. I fucking love it!
The same thing Antón Chighur says to the store owner but with other words
Such a haunting line with perfect delivery.
That's the line I looked up ha
Shelley Duvall is insanely cute. She was precious in the movie.
@@Ballislife32
Wtf nooo don't be mean
Bro there is a girl at my school who looks like her
BAHAHAHAHAA
@@matthewlewin9437 who did you say that too bro
gulag gamers bro she looks like somebody pushed a turd through a shower drain
Of course, Jack Nicholson gave one of the greatest performances in the history of cinema, but Shelley Duvall's performance is underrated. Her performance in this scene in particular is absolutely brilliant.
"I'm not gonna hurt yah... I'm just gonna BASH your brains in." I love that.
Both Jack and Harley Quinn share crazy attributes and one of them involves brain bashing.
"I'm not gonna hurt ya... I'm just gonna Bash your brains in. I'm gonna BASH right the FUCK in hehe!
@@megabulwark442 😂🤣😂🤣😭
This is where my mom got that line.
"Im just gonna bash them right the FUCK in haha" lol
God the background music is completely perfect in this scene. Creepy as fuck.
Penderecki.
more horror movies today need that.
A pure masterpiece...incredible. Jack is so amazing in this film.
Jordan Groff sounds like spiders
It Follows had similar music
This is literally my dad when he got drunk and the worst part is the mannerisms and he looked like jack.
Oof that's sad dude ;-; hopefully he didn't hurt you or anything right?
God u okay?
Stephen King understood from experience the change in personality that comes from being a drunk. The sweetest person can turn into a monster. Alcohol just unleashes the demon beneath the happy demeanor.
DudeThatsEffedUp
If alcohol changes you in a negative manner such as this then the individual is weak in the head and should not drink
Shelley Duvall (1949 - 2024). Rest In Peace!
What makes this scene so dam scary, is the degree of Jacks madness. How he is moving towards her like a vicious predator ready to pounce and kill. His state of instability is so heightened, there is no way to stop it, so its like if you make one wrong subtle move, he'll unleash like a Viper and kill you.
It's actually an extremely menacing scene.
The entire movie I feel so sad for the mother... She seems so innocent and scared. The actress did a great performance
Gotta be honest though if I was stuck in a confined space with her for 6 months I'd probably go insane also
Bro you know that she literally had to take 127 takes for the movie, right? It was basically torture for her.
@@muzoshii2200 yeah it's sad because, she was very mistreated even when they weren't filming. She would get really sick from crying so much she got dehydrated. It's sad that now she's schizophrenic.
MemeTiger 55 Not even for the whole movie. 127 takes for just this scene. That’s a lot
We’re all going to turn into Jack from being quarantined because of corona.
Crazy Catholic Chick 2.0
Give me the remote baby, give me the remote... give it to me
GIVE ME THE FUCKING REMOTE!
Gav and win A. That but it’s with hand sanitiser
I'm about 1/4 of the way there. Thankfully it's not winter.
Except for gamers.
Yep I think I'm nearly there lol
RIP Shelly. Now you can finally have the rest you so desperately needed. Thank you for giving your all to make this movie so incredible. ❤
@@dragnfly917 she should've been nominated for an Oscar for best supporting actress
@@vincentbarney3091 I agree 100%
Some people apparently hate Shelley Duvall in this movie (including Stephen King himself). I guess she doesn't fit in their idea of a horror film scream queen - she looks and acts like she's genuinely scared.
That's what makes it really scary and intense. She was ace.
Exactly. I think it's so good it makes some people uncomfortable and so they irrationally hate her for it. They don't like seeing a woman truly terrified and messed up like this. I think it's more the character people hate rather than the actress. They want her to stand up and stop being a push over but this isn't your typical horror slasher with the empowered heroine. It's a disturbing, unsettling look at domestic abuse taken to the extreme.
Kevtb87 She did stand up and stop being a pushover so what problem do people have?
I don't know why people think Shelley Duvall is ugly. She looked really adorable in that scene where Jack yells at her for disturbing him from his writing.
Don Draper I have to respectively disagree. Wendy in the book might not respond to situations with the hysteria Duvall conveys in this film, and she's supposed to be hot I guess. But Wendy in the movie saves herself and her son, withstands far more abuse throughout the film than Wendy does in the book (up until Jack attacks her in the book, nothing happens to her personally) and is credited with being more resourceful than she initially presented herself to be BY THE GHOSTS THEMSELVES. And she starts off at much lower and more vulnerable place. Honestly if my husband told me to my face while backing me up stairs that he was going to bash my head in, I'd probably break down crying too. That she manages to find the fortitude to get herself and her kid the hell out of the hotel proves her to be a strong character. I think she has a much more thorough arch than in the novel. In the book, Wendy might having thicker skin but she's just as passive as King says Duvall's Wendy is, she only knocks Jack out because Danny distracts him and once the climax of the book starts, King disposes of her by having her pass out and never fully regaining consciousness. She plays literally no role whatsoever in protecting Danny, ultimately proving to be totally useless once the shit hits the fan. Does that make her a bad or uninteresting character? Certainly not. But I think the idea that she's "stronger" than Duvall's Wendy is pretty easy to dispute. Kubrick's movie actually pivots on Wendy getting it together and taking action. She essentially becomes the primary protagonist and the audience surrogate. King has to literally dispose of her so that the finale of the book can happen.
Obviously this is just my own opinion. But I think Duvall's Wendy is an accurate depiction of a real human in extreme circumstances, responding spontaneously in the moment to what's being thrown at her. The Wendy in the novel is surely a compelling character, but that's all she is, a character who would only ever exist in a novel.
She's strangely beautiful.
What
she's just beautiful.
She is beautiful
@@ryantomkyles yes
@@ryantomkyles yes
I feel bad for Shelley Duvall I hated her first. But they shot this scene 127 times I would be that stressed and frightened in real life if I had to go through that.
I would probably snap.
+Jess Brajer i heard she was treated badly in the making of the movie too
+Josh Smith indeed she was. stanley kuberick, although brilliant, was known for mistreating the actors.
Jess Brajer i know it sounds terrible but to an extent it helped her performance but i feel sorry for her cause she did end up going crazy apparantly her neighbours say she is always telling people aliens are living in her backyard and she always looks terrified but thats just a rumor
i agree that it did assist in a realistic performance and terror but along with it comes sympathy.
So bizarre anyone could say this is bad acting. This is so realistic and you really feel for her and want to protect her. I remember thinking how well she played a concerned mother and wife. Such a bummer talentless critics could see this as a poor performance
i have countless time seen critics deem absolutely priceless material as dogshit and it has made me indifferent to all of them
I think it was more a misogynistic panel of critics who can’t respect vulnerable emotion. They think it’s “weak”
127. One hundred and twenty seven takes. Jesus Kubrik...
I think Jack really did go crazy for doing this scene over and over.
This was also done to actually cause stress to the female actress and those tears are supposedly real. This is what I have read, don't cite me on that.
Kubrick was a goddamn visionary, nobody has revolutionized nor had the impact on filmmaking as a whole as much as he has.
No wonder Shelly Duvall was reduced to a blubbering mess....
Just what it takes to get the performance out of Duvall..
ONE HUNDRED TWENTY SEVEN TIMES!!!
109 likes for you friend come see
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Justin Troll 127 yep Fuckin’ A!!! No wonder Shelley has lost it over the fucking years, nice going Kubrick asshole!
Goddam! That's the same # of reshoots for the "Here's Johnny" scene! Shit like this is why perfectionists like Kubrick don't belong in Hollywood.
This seems harder on Jack
This scene is actually so scary
Is it actually?
It's kinda funny too lol
Coming here after finding out the incredibly talented Shelley Duvall has passed away 😔 she deserved so much better, but I hope she knew how much she was treasured by horror fans around the globe. Her performance in this movie is unforgettable, for all the right reasons
This is beyond raw genius. It's at a level that the current generation of actors can never possibly hope to achieve. Jack Nicholson will go down as one of the all time greats. Shelley Duvall was seriously underappreciated. Her acting here was tremendous.
Viraf Karai I agree especially about duvall being underappreciated....at that time she was one of the best actresses of her time, and the boy playing ranny actually does look like her
the reason their acting was so good was because they went through 127 takes so i dunno if i would even consider it acting as much as it was just duval being genuinely terrified and jack going genuinely insane
Viraf Karai Shelly was nominated for a razzy for worst actress in this film. Can you believe that?
oh pls...even King said this about her...In an interview with the BBC, King also criticized Shelley Duvall's performance in the film, stating "[S]he's basically just there to scream and be stupid, and that's not the woman that I wrote about.'
Grandizer12 king also hates the movie with practically everything in his heart. He criticized the writing, performances of both nick Danny and Wendy, and just Hates Spielberg in general
3:45 to 4:49 just shows you how talented Nicholson is! Look at how he approaches her with an evil voice and then goes soft and gentle to try and win her around. That minute or show just explains to you why he won oscars!
Megs Smart Thinking I love how the music fades out at 4:19 along with the sudden shift in the intensity of Jack's energy. As he suddenly goes from perverse to more serious. Truly convincingly frightening.
if she had to do it 127 times then so did he... he looked crazy here im glad i saw this as a teen and not with everyone spoiling what kubrick did to the actors on set. this movie moved my soul... now I just think kubrick is a mean bully...
Jack is creepy man
But he’s a jerk
@@dextervolkof425 that's why he played the joker
I loved her. She was so convincing so terrified. I dont why she was nominated for the worst actress hm 😒
The razzies are idiots lol
'Cause she wasnt acting
@@diegojoabkn Are you male or female?
@Osman Yousif sure.. Because she wasn't acting. The director tore her right down... Awful.
she was mentally traumatized and abused everything that was on that screen is because of the pain and misery she was put through
The way how he imitates Wendy with ‘As soon as possible!’ 😂
LOL
😂
02:02
"Give me the bat!"
"... Okay. *Tosses the bat into another room*"
Morgan Hoskins Nostalgia critic? 😂
Yep.
Which room? ;)
i’d just lock him in a room and leave it out there for him lmao
Maybe it was about Danny.
Maybe it was about him.
I think we should discuss Danny.
I think we should discuss
what should be done with him.
What should be done with him?
I love the hidden poetry here.
Paul Riet am I missing something? What's the hidden poetry? That it's just written in a poetic manner?
Paul Riet where is that part
I thought the commenter was being sarcastic 😂
Explain pleaseeeee
It sounds morelike a riddle to me
R.I.P. Shelly Duvall
(1949-2024)
He's so good at acting. my god
Anastasia Lambert Truly terrifying. Imagine being confronted like this.. knowing there's no where to escape... there's no one that can help you... I think Shelley is really scared in this scene, unless she's that good of an actress. I can feel her fear.
Jack nicholson is phenominal in this film
Xiomara Videz the director made her do this scene 127 times and traumatized her so this isn’t acting this is really how she felt on the scene
He's not blinking which makes it even more terrifying
"As soon as possi-bal?"
+Beyond The Infinite That nearly made me shit myself.
+Beyond The Infinite -This sends me into helpless fits of laughter. Every Single Time.
+Beyond The Infinite As soon as pussy bal?
As soon as pause a bull?
IS IT IMPOSSIBLEEEEE HOW DO WE REWRITE THE STARSSS
I always said she made this movie 100% the pure Innocence, and yet the pure trauma you see in her voice and eyes. She was bloody amazing in this!
4:09 Best moment of the entire thing. The way he dangles his arms after crazily chuckling really shows just how mentally insane Jack has become at this point in the film. He walks forwards towards her like a dummy.
Mddk
I have these Jack Nicholson moments frequently as I finish Law School.
Proximate Cause damn is law school that difficult?
I absolutely love Duvall’s performance here. But I still feel bad for the fact she was bullied through production
This scene is so painful to watch knowing they did it 127 times and that she was so heavily abused on set. She did absolutely fantastic! The fact that she was nominated for worst actress is unbelievable. Maybe the fact that she was so heavily abused played into her very emotional and terrified performance. Partially, she wasn't acting.
The academy purposely did that because she spoke out about her mistreatment. Guarantee if she just let herself be abused & stayed silent she would’ve won an award
It's not abuse it's her job.
@@virtualmartini its abuse to make someone so stressed their hair falls out and they get traumatized. Plus, kubric told everyone to ignore shelly, he was emotionally abusive, he was a bad person
@@virtualmartini It was supposed to be a job, until you realize that she was suffering abuses in set.
"You've had your whole FUCKING life to think things over. What good's a few minutes more gonna do you now?" - sick. I always found that amusing though :D
hatmonger Hah, it is true.
I found it pretty scary because it was a thinly veiled threat, basically saying he was about to kill her. It sent a chill down my spine.
god damn, what a great performance. you gotta love how jack was almost romantic about it when he said 'bash them right the fuuuck in' then laughs, his cadence while delivering that line is genius
Yeah that line is straight from the book and he says it perfectly, total dark humour and scary
Poor Shelley. I think she did wonderful in this role. Even Jack Nicholson said he's never seen an actor work so hard or endure so much as Shelley. People give her crap and laugh but she busted her ass working on this film. Kubrick put her through total hell. She isn't acting here. Those tears and that hopeless, exhausted expression on her face is completely real. I wonder if her experience on this film is why she's so messed up now. Or at least one of the reasons. I feel so awful for her.
The Tommyknocker Man i actually thought that she did good
@@Bob-ol3hl I do too.
I’m here after finding out. Rip legend 🕊️
This is one of the best scenes in the movie and one of the most suspenseful scenes in cinema, but the way jack mimics Wendy's "as soon as possible" will always take me out of it for a second and laugh
That's Jack Nicholson for you. He can be comical most times.
Incredible acting!
rushed here after she passed, unbelievable
RIP Shelley, this scene she gave everything to. So much emotion, she was incredible. She deserved sooo much better than Hollywood gave her. 🩵 This scene is iconic.
HAHAHA I totally forgot about the ONE hilarious moment out of this frightening, demonic scene.....4:44
"WendAYY"
+Mark Hazleton 4:44
Jack at his most demonic until he kills Dick Halloran. Then he levels up to Super Saiyan Demon Beast Mode.
Mark Hazleton THAT scared me!!
My favourite part to lol this scene was always so funny to me
127 takes because of the damn staircase... What a perfectionist, Stanley was...
Mishta Romaniello thought it was 173 takes but still either way it's a shit ton
seth d Yep, what's even worse is that the average amount of takes per shot was 30. ._.
yeah and tortured Shelley on set, what a perfectionist
tormented
Mishta Romaniello IT WAS NOT SHOT 127 TIMES!!!! It was shot 45 God damn times
“Has it ever occurred to you that I have agreed to look after the Overlook Hotel until May the 1st?!”
That line randomly popped into my head today while I was doing the laundry lol
Maybe you were thinking: Has it ever occurred to you that I agree to do laundry everyday until May the 1st?
da96103 hahaha
Just as long as Mr. Grady didn't visit you in the laundry room to apologize for spilling Advocaat all over your dinner jacket.
rest in peace shelly;( i’m coming back too see all of her iconic scenes.
shelley duvalls performance in this film is top notch! she really portrayed a woman brought to her breaking point and cocooned in pure terror. i cant believe the razzies were dumb enough at the time to nominate her as well as kubrick for worst director.
She was indeed brilliant. Bravo Shelley.
Pebbles Looksee Proof that sometimes the Razzie people are as dumb as the Oscar people.
There are rumors that Shelley was actually not just acting this part, but the emotions she expressed in this scene were actually real, not acting. Rumors are that she was even like this even when the camera wasn’t rolling. The reason why is because this scene was redone 127 times. Rumor is also that Stanley Kubrick purposely wore her out in order for her to do the act well
@@thebosstex1172 Kubrick was not the one to take care of his actors well, he would burn them out to breaking point. This was taken a hundred and twenty-seven times
When he starts sticking his tongue out saying "wendy, gimme the bat". Terrifying!
sheesh exactly!
Yeah then she'll totally give him the bat
I just noticed Nicholson did not blink when making this scene
Probably cuz it was the 127th time he's facing that swing! Haha
RIP Queen !
You will always be an icon.
Amazing performance in The Shinning.
King: how do you like it?
Kubrick: ahhhhh Stephen
King: how do you like it? what are you doing down here?
Kubrick: I just wanted to talk to you.
King: ok... lets talk... what do you wanna talk about?
Kubrick: I can’t... really... remember.
King: you can’t remember. Maybe it was about the movie. Maybe it was about it. I think we should discuss the film. I think we should discuss what should be done with it. What should be done with it?
Kubrick: I don’t know.
King: I don’t think that’s true. I think you have some very diffident ideas on what should be done with the film and I’d like to know what they are.
Kubrick: I think maybe... jack should have an axe.
King: you think maybe jack should have an axe.
Kubrick: yes
King: and when do you think maybe jack should have an axe?
Kubrick: at the very end.
King: aT tHE VeRy eNd.
Kubrick: Stephen... please.
King: you Think this movie might be a stake?
Kubrick: yes
King: you are concerned about it.
Kubrick: yes
King: and are you concerned about me?
Kubrick: of course I am.
King: Of Course you are. Have you ever thought about my responsibilities?
Kubrick: ohhhh Stephen what are you talking about.
King: have you ever thought for a single solitary moment about my responsibilities for my novels? Has it ever occurred to you that I’ve agreed to have the novel made in my vision, that I wrote for hours at a time, that I signed to make a movie out of it, a contract in which I am entitled to see my vision of this novel to come to life? Do you have the slightest idea what a moral or ethical principle is? do you? Has it ever occurred to you what could happen to my future if the movie didn’t live up to the book? Has it ever occurred to you? HAS IT?
Kubrick: get away from me.
King: why?
Kubrick: I just wanna go back to filming the movie.
King: why?
Kubrick: I just need a chance to think things over.
King: you’ve had your whole fucking production to think things over!!!! What good is a few minutes more gonna do you now.
Kubrick: get away from me!!!! Don’t sue me.
King: I’m not gonna sue you. Stanley... sir... light of my film... I’m not gonna sue ya... you didn’t let me finish my sentence I said I’m not going to sue ya I’m just gonna bash this film in hahaha I’m gonna bash it right the fuck in.
Kubrick: get away.
King: I’m not gonna sue you.
Kubrick: get away.
King: stop filming the movie. Put the camera down Stanley. Give me the film. Stop filming the movie. Give me the film. STANLEY. Give me the film. give me the film. (Movie becomes huge) ohhhhh god damn it.
Haha XD
Taylor Pack lolol very good!!!!😂
This deserves more likes Xx
Hahahahaha
Haha, this is genius! 😂
“you think MAYBE he should be taken to a DOCTOR?”
When do you think MAYBE he should be taken to a DOCTOR?
As soon as possible?
Lol...
@@TimothyBrown2010 aS sOoN as pOsSiBeL
I love how condescending and insulting he sounds when he says that
This has the same energy as the Onision meltdown
Stix N' Stones bro chill just say phaguette
I CANT BREATHE THIS IS SO MENTAL LMFAOOO
Do not compare that trash to one of the greatest horror films, my dude.
KAI IS CRYING
honestly i clicked this video to show it to a friend bc i think some of his exes behave pretty much like wendy :(
RIP Shelley. Love you forever. No one could’ve played Wendy the way you did ❤
GIMME THE BAT MARGE GIMME THE BAT GIMME THE BETEBLEUBLRLBTE!!!!!
+Solomon the kaiju demon jack got the bat when he became thejoker haha
Josh Smith HEH
lol
***** u know when he says hes gong to bash her brains in yeah i just had to chase a mouse around my living room and i eventually got so annoyed i start saying that entire scene to the mouse im going crazy hahaha
***** im sitting watching a youtube vid and my mum comes in scared out her mind saying theres a mouse downstairs so ineed to go downstairs and get it
The only reason that people criticize this scene (or this movie) is because they have not lived with anyone who struggles with mental health issues, or have never been in an abusive relationship. As a person who has experienced them both, I would say that this is VERY accurate. Both performances were so convincing, I am spellbound by their expressions and words. #1 scariest movie of all time, hands down. Prove me wrong.
I swear, they'd better not do a remake of this film like they've already done to ruin other masterpieces... No remake will ever come close to this masterpiece...
The Shining is an example that well-crafted dialogues, masterfully orchestrated score, a cast with talent, brilliant cinematography, and a dedicated director can build a horror film without jump scares or poorly applied CGI.
Benny Kwok Agreed.
Benny Kwok - They did the remake. Miniseries from 1997.
JohnDoe Se7en that wasn't a remake that was a closer rendition to the novel
They`ve remade IT
If they do remake it, jim Carrey needs to play jack
rest in peace shelley duvall(1949-2024)
Wendy: As soon as possible
Jack: aS sOoN As PoSsIbLe