I'm super surprised you still have the stock "hanguards" After I looped mine and watched them fold they got replaced with enduro engineering bark busters. only issue I've had with mine is the kickstand switch malfunctioned within the first week or two.
order a "counter sharft" o'ring and put it on yourself to fix oil leak, with the dash battery get a medical "hospital" spec battery as they last 3-4 times longer.
I came back to this review because as you might remember from a comments section I started racing a CRF450 Supermoto at Crail. And honestly I don't want any other style of bike anymore. I'm getting in contact with Saltire motorcycles to get a 701 for the road and hopefully at the end of July. Absolutely love this bike. Thank you for the great content Chops!
I’m still deciding between this and the 2018 MT-07.. problem is, the MT07 was pretty perfect the way it was. I haven’t ridden the 701 yet but I heard it’s a bit gutless stock, and you NEED to change the rear sprocket and maybe do an ECU tune .. which doesn’t help the higher price in any way. Any tips ? Is the 701 fun enough to spend the extra money on ?
The main reason i was looking at the 690smc is the new 2018/19 has been made with a lower seat hight and a bigger tank which is good for me a 5.7 tall.
An honest review of something for once! Been looking at the SMC (had EXCS in the past for enduro) & 701. Any idea on the '18 release date? Also. Have you done anything 100+ miles? I travel to my parents a lot & it's 150 miles. Wondering what it's like & what the range on the tank is?
+Moto Dork thanks Mate, I've no news on 2018 version I don't think it will change much.. Yes I've done 150+ miles in a day on it, tank range is about 110 miles give or take.. it's very good on fuel. Only downside to long distance is the hard seat
Hey Chop. Didn't want to buy a '17 and then '18s come out a day later! Seat can be swapped I guess, and I can't imagine the SMC is any comfier. Not that I can actually find one. Appreciate the help, so I've linked to your channel a couple of times on a blog I've started, ready to start posting up pictures & videos :) motodork.com/best-supermotos-my-1st/
There is a company in Germany who sell a new spring for the gear selector inside the gearbox, that will get the false neutral sorted if you are interested. Awesome videos you have. I'm curious if you would test the tenere 700?
couldn't find the oil leak, is that the particular person at the dealership you spoke to, their way of saying we cant be bothered to have it stripped apart to fit a new seal ? lol, sorry just my un-trusting nature towards men in either suit's or very clean overall's at dealership's, I worked as a panel beater ( now known as someone that takes a panel off and put's another one on rather than repair ) and i met some dodgy not interested unless their making a lot of money peaple whilst working in that trade, that was a ford and vauxhall franchised place though, not saying all dealerships or franchised bike or car places are like that, sorry about that, i haven't had a bad week honest ;) nice bike though getting to the subject mate, what weight are them 701's they look really light
+Daz070 yes I think so! I told them it was leaking, it was clean without anything dripping when I dropped it off. I suspect they started the bike from cold for 30 secs and no leakage so that was that!
Hey LCR! Was just wondering about which of the seats you bought? I can see there's an "original" kind and a tall one.. Gonna buy one, but are a bit unsure if I should go for the regular one or the tall one:/ Scared the "tall" one will look stupid:p
+martinmyrene mine is the regular and I find it perfect. I was like you didn't want to risk it looking odd... they don't have any pics of the tall one either
Yeah, I noticed:/ But thank you for replying, I'm pretty sure I'll go for the regular one too! Now I just have to find some enduro-friendly mirrors:p Wanted the Rizoma's, but jeez, they cost a fortune:O
I've owned an '08 WR250X for almost two years. It's insanely fun, and yeah I want a 701 like mad but don't be afraid to start with the Yammie. It's a very good bike.
Clarence Cohen Google "trailtech" they make universal tacometers with a single wire pickup that simply wraps around the plug lead to detect spark. Nothing invasive just cable ties (zip ties) and a handlebar clamp. They do make full feature units for enduro with speed, time, clock, laptimer, tacho, temperature etc. Their temp pickups are either coolant hose inline, or a schweet k-type that attaches to a copper washer that your spark plug screws down on, between the plug and the head.
True. If they release a 2018 model with some decent weight savings and more refined engine I might nab one. What impresses me the least is that my 500exc has a better power/weight ratio than either of these bikes. Aprilia was on the right track with the SXV, too bad it was horribly unreliable.
It's fantastic. Nice and thin for filtering, and can blip away from traffic when needed. I mainly commute around Birmingham, and even there, there's lots of nice corners to have fun with... sensibly of course ;). I ACF50'd it over winter, but the downpipe is a looking a bit rusty at the front where most of the road grid hits it - everything else looks great though.
The husky 701 brought me to your channel mister :). You seem to love it a lot! Don't you miss it now that you had to let her go? I miss the 701 ride outs with your mates, i really enjoyed watching all of them :). I think you need to buy it back, you have room for it :D Ride safe!
+bioni76 yes I did love it, it will be missed. But never say never, the enduro bikes are just as fun plus you can go proper offroading. Winter time will be lots of enduro bikes 😎😎
Loads of 701s at Loomies on sunday. I think people are getting the message that they are more fun than sports bikes... at least on the road. Glad you are promoting the lanes. Our group ride the lanes all the time and never see another bike... they are all stuck in traffic on the A272!
That looks such a fun bike!!! May have to try one now.. Aaahhhhhh That's a 1290 Superduke, a Tuono Factory, and now a 701!! You're going to cost me a fortune 😳😁 By the way, I bloody hate GoPro's too, nothing but problems with the Hero models, but I find the sessions are fairly good.
+teapotone you and me both bloody bike shopping list getting long & longer! 😂😂 yeah that gopro been sold on now, my hero 4 Silver been perfect for 3 years, just bought a second black and this one seems fine.. trouble with session is the battery life but I guess it's OK if your only riding for a couple of hours
I never knew the 701 had a separate battery for the clock... That's quite dumb... I wonder if there's a mod to connect it directly to the main battery isntead.
+AiroRider it's connected to the main battery also, when the watch battery goes you only loose the clock and trip mileages. It's a pain as like being able to tell the time whilst riding! They work but reset when you turn the bike off
+stickerbomb moto never tried one but supposed to be amazing so can't compare unfortunately. 701 is great though and 6k servicing is incredible for the performance compared to enduro / competition machines. Dropping a tooth on the front has made it feel like a competition bike tbh
Where do you buy your aftermarket parts for your 701? i am simply looking for something like those levers and cant find anything here in the US help! I am willing to buy from the UK as long as they ship to the US. Thanks
Lamb Chop Rides i found them, tons of good parts, but not willing to ship to the US. Thanks for your help. I went to R&G directly to get bike protection but will have to figure out where i can get other parts.
I'm so envious about anyone that can wheelie, I couldn't even do it on my bmx in the 80s and my mountain bike in the 90s, or even when I tried when taking my bike test in 94, though that was only a 125cg 🤪 great video, they all are that I've watched 👀 😊
Very insightful review. Regarding the false neutrals, 5th and 6th gears have three dogs instead of four, hence these two gears are especially prone to false neutral or slipping out of gear. I have replaced the stock shifting arm with the Pro Tuning shift kit for my '16 Duke R and no more false neutral! It's a 100 quid fix and only takes 20 minutes to swap out. www.ktmforums.com/forums/duke/68914-pro-tuning-shift-kit.html
I do miss my Husky SM510R, am looking into the KTM 790 duke for next year as I think it will possibly offer almost the same experience with added legs for the longer journeys.... I don't think it'll be much more comfy though lol :D
+Hippo-Drones I've never tried the 510 but loads of people rate them, it's on my to try list! I'm also looking foward to 790, also keen to see next year's 690! Oh so many bikes 😎😎
3 rear tyres in 4500m ouch I've just picked up a set of those for my drz 400 sm and I was reading on the forums that you'd get 3000m on a rear 5000m on a front but I suppose your bike is twice the power of a drz. Where they just bald in the middle or where the edges well worn as well? PS I haven't actually fitted them yet I got 2mm left on my rear and 3mm left on the front so probably another 1000m for me until I swap or 1 track day.
+bchant19 yeah I've just put the third on so worn out two rears and one front. It's the middles which go on the rear and the edges on the front, I must say the other guys get better wear than me, tufty rear lasted 4.5k. It's the wheelies which kill my rear
it can be done then but I have a bit of the heavy right wrist action myself as well so I think if I can get 3000m out of the rear I'll be happy got a great deal on a set so I'm not too fussed about longevity as long as they last the summer and have loads of grip that's all I want seen as the sm is just my toy bike anyway 😁
+bchant19 I love them I'm sure you will too! Special compound for an SM as the bikes are lighter so they heat up enough. Sure you will get 3k out of the rear no probs 👍
Lamb Chop Rides I've heard bad things about the wet grip though not that I'm want to ride in the rain but you know how it is in UK especially this time of year it can rain anytime really even if the sky is clear. Have you had any issue with them on a wet surface?
I wish I could do only 4K miles on a bike. I can’t get off it that’s my problem my first year of riding did 15k miles then the Covid came I had 2 bikes and 20k miles in total I need something to last like a gs1200 but I really would love this 701 as a back road local ripper
It all depends on how you ride the bike. If you torque it around the city and backroads .. maybe. If you ride it sporty/agressively or on track, 100% DO IT.
I put 5k miles on my 19 with full bolt ons and a dyno tune. Only issue is I have the same tiny tiny oil leak. And I replaced the slave cylinder just bc they’re known to fail.
Glad you're still loving the bike chap, she looks great! I'm always getting false neutrals between 5th and 6th and fairly often between 4th and 5th, could be worse on the older bikes or maybe it's just me... If you're ever looking for another 690 to join for a ride, you know who to message ;D
I just spent 2000 miles on it during the 701 rideout, much better motor than the 2016 version. sell it while it still has some reasonbly low miles on it 😁
+SupermotoCentral haha I tried one today, yes very quickly. I would say half the vibes of the 2016 but didn't feel quicker than mine as I have the power commander so hard to judge. Going to wait and see what ktm do with the 690 next year 😀
Im getting my 1st supermoto. Ive watched all you videos thank you. Im still torn between this or the KTM690 The 701 will be brand new where as the 690 will be 2nd hand. Are these bikes ok for large people, Im 120kg will it pull ok?
The 701 sm/E 2017 model has the updated better engine than the ktm690 smcr/E. The bike's stock rear suspension sucks for anyone above 80 kgs. If you plan to get it you will have to upgrade the rear shock spring from 69nm to 90 nm or more depending on what is available on rally-raidproducts. Basically the bike doesn't come full ready to ride for anyone.
+Air Doctor I disagree, I'm 110 KG and bike handles fine. Yes ideally I want a stiffer rear spring but still quick on track in stock form. I've not even increased the preload on the spring yet as you have to remove it. I would say go for it Mr Partridge 👍
Check the term "setting the sag". The stock rear spring is too soft for my 90 kgs weight(100 kgs with full gear) to be set correctly. If you already haven't set the sag on your bike then unfortunately you don't know exactly how much better your bike would feel in terms of handling. 69nm spring rate is made for standard weight riders which is between 70kg and 80 kgs. I have already dissected the rear end of my bike and was forced to over preload the spring to get a decent riding sag. Over pre loading is a sign that the spring is too soft. Which would end up making your rear end of the bike static sag way too much. Hope this clarification , helps you understand my point of view. Same thing with many* of the mods you have made , gear indicator etc. The spring has to be on your list also add to it the hydraulic preload adjuster to avoid dissecting the rear end of the bike every time you want to increase the preload ;)
+Air Doctor I get what your saying exactly and your right I do want to upgrade the shock. I set the sag on the blade so know the process and your right it could make a huge difference... my point was even stock it's fine, can probably be improved of course but don't be put off buying if your a larger gent 👍
Nah nah it is not like I'm going to gain 3% profit off his purchase of the bike. "Are these bikes ok for large people, Im 120kg will it pull ok?" Just answering his question objectively. :D It's a cheap upgrade anyways , probably he might wana do a deal with the dealer to install it for free! See we saved him time and money :D (rally-raidporducts)
@@c-zen890 I know at least on the older smc the caliper will hit spokes on oem rims. Also head angle and axle placement make it really twitchy in the dirt
@@humzilla707 Possibly they changed it for the newer models then. Some other Motovlogger who rides a 701 Enduro said he bought the SM package at his dealer and it was with Warp Wheels and it was "plug n play". Well a tad bit of shaving down the forks to get the SM set-up to fit.
dont love the gear box on the 690.. clunky SOB.. Best thing about 690 is people dont freak out thinking its a 250 or something, but it goes like a sport bike til bout 110mph
honestly once you get used to it you'll never need it again. I learned riding on oldtimers which never had rev counters and never ever missed looking at that rev counter. On my R6 I realised I never ever really look at it to be honest
I use to have GoPro Hero 4 Black it's ok camera but when i got the DRIFT ghost S i never look back on GoPro, unless i'm using it for differnt stuff lol nice video :)
I am planning to get one but i will mainly commute with it at about 100 to 120 km/h which is 64 till 74 miles an hour, would you still say fuck it and get one or is it too much of a struggel with the wind blasting?
I don't have that bike but.... Just ask any chopper rider with no windscreen. It sucks balls... Your neck gets tired from being pushed from the wind. and the helmet buffeting is felt much more. Its totally do-able but it just sucks for longer rides. depending on your height/weight and what jacket you are wearing, you might feel like a parachute at high speeds too. I bought a taller windscreen for my hayabusa because my neck would actually be sore for a day or two.On short rides, who cares right?
brilliant review. been thinking of getting the 2017, supermoto but not sure how it would handle motorways, day in day out. In the past, I've owned a Honda FMX650 and I know it's not a proper supermoto but I loved it. But wasn't the best bike for motorways. A head on wind would zap all the power. Can you tell, what yours is like for distance rides. I ask because my commute is about 40 minutes but once a month, I do a 2 hour journey to visit relatives. I've not found a bike yet. That can do the journal in one hit. Even breaking the journey half way. Still leaves a sore bum. I don't really want the expense and weight of an adventure bike. So when are you buying the Tuono or SDR1290? lol
Hi. brilliant review. I just bought a 2017 701 Enduro. started looking for a european seat concepts dealer and I can't find one. did you buy yours in the UK? and is the seat cover on your the original or the seat concepts one?
The key is to change the run in procedure to get the piston rings to seal up properly. There’s loads of stuff around about it. Check out MotardSteve’ s RUclips video. Basically, if you do this the bike won’t burn oil at all. You’ll get much better engine life as the cylinder won’t coke up either
Just ordered fork seals and that counter shaft sprocket seal and o-ring myself for my 17 with just under 3k on. Seal looked fine when put on 15T but weeps still and no groove yet in spacer from the seal lip. Was leaking a lot, enough to drip on garage floor but washed and cleaned chain lube gunk and was better when changed the sprocket this weekend. Fork leaking pretty good, slower after using seal buddy but didn't stop. Fork seals are a expensive kit, double what they are on any bike I have replaced on yet. Fuel screen plugged up once and kept shutting off, cleaned and fine since but yeah its a fun bike but not Honda reliable IMO for a road machine. Do like the tires, they grip and soft tires that grip wear out faster so expected. Wish they made the throttle tube with less slop, feels like a child engineered it.
+Aspired329 thanks for the feedback, I've avoided fork seals yet still not done seal yet buy doesn't seem to be leaking as bad as it was... your right about throttle tube all ktm's are the same.. it's a pet hate of mine also but guess you get used to it..
Could you do reviews on the latest 600 bikes? Like the zx6r. I know theyre a fart in the wind for you performance wise, but still fun to see what they got.
Re that primary sprocket leak: Just check that the nut is nipped up properly, the one on my 690 loosened off even though it is tabbed. Just torqued it up and problem solved ✌
Very tempting to add a supermoto in the garage with the Panigale, also, I love how you need to watch right to the end on your vids Chops, it's like not leaving the cinema when the credits roll!
+Paul Ford yeah it's not practical but can do most things... only thing it can't do is long distance as it's hard work. But super comfortable once you sort the seat 😀
Ah ok cheers thats not too far, i did see that shop on google maps but as it was so tiny and didnt have a website i didnt bother looking into it. Are these lanes you ride on around the Winchester area too? i live closer to London and dont see many lanes that nice!
Yep we're only half way in the metric system. No Brit would have a clue how far a KM is. Our fuel is priced in litres but know consumption in miles per gallon.
Mine - Wobbly instrument lights: check, leaking oil from same place as you, check. A few others; stickers fell off wheels (don't care), drinks more oil than fuel (over exaggeration), sometimes won't start (F1 fault - throttle position sensor) seems to have fixed itself. Done 5500 miles, squeezing the life out of original tyres (agreed they are awesome!). All in all, I love this bike sooo much. Considering these things get thrown around I'm surprised that they don't fall apart. Testament to very good build quality. Anything else feels heavy and slow turning. I'd love to get my hands on a Husky FS 450 Supermoto for the weekend. But the 701 is the perfect blend for me!!!
+Chris Burgess haha yeah did mention oil burning but cut that bit as going on too long 😁 not had the starting issue I will watch our for that.. yeah agreed on the FS 450 👍
oil leak? don't you mean active weight reduction?
False neutrals on supermoto happen when you are a girl... You need to kick the gears!
Now that's a review.
Honest and no bullsh!t.
We know now what to expect.
I need to get my hands one 1.
Thank!
I'm looking at 17 701sm now...I saw it today and fell in love... I wish there was a gas meter tho
I hear people taking about an issue with the slave cylinder.
Thoughts on that?
Awesome review man. Love to see that there are more reviews like this 🙌
+beni8978 thanks beni, yeah all sorts of shit on my channel hehe 👍👍
I'm super surprised you still have the stock "hanguards" After I looped mine and watched them fold they got replaced with enduro engineering bark busters. only issue I've had with mine is the kickstand switch malfunctioned within the first week or two.
order a "counter sharft" o'ring and put it on yourself to fix oil leak, with the dash battery get a medical "hospital" spec battery as they last 3-4 times longer.
Great video, I loved it! And sorry, I am getting a supermoto 😂
I came back to this review because as you might remember from a comments section I started racing a CRF450 Supermoto at Crail. And honestly I don't want any other style of bike anymore. I'm getting in contact with Saltire motorcycles to get a 701 for the road and hopefully at the end of July. Absolutely love this bike. Thank you for the great content Chops!
I want one now 701 2nd bike??
what bikes do you own in 2020 ? I am considering a supermoto, also considering an 890 duke and MT09
I have a 690 SMC Love it!!! I installed a factory pro Shift Kit, SOOOOO much better shifting now!
I’m still deciding between this and the 2018 MT-07.. problem is, the MT07 was pretty perfect the way it was. I haven’t ridden the 701 yet but I heard it’s a bit gutless stock, and you NEED to change the rear sprocket and maybe do an ECU tune .. which doesn’t help the higher price in any way. Any tips ? Is the 701 fun enough to spend the extra money on ?
A thought- just get the mt 09??
I have dr650 2off. And MT 07. MT07 great bike no problems. But i have not test 701. Oil leak mention???
I think the mt07 feels more gutless than this bike, the weight and flick-ability really make it feel more fun an lively. But why not mt09 or 10?
Doesnt feel gutless stock at all but I'm sure a tune would wake it up even more
In doubt between this and the 790 duke. Different types of bikes I know..
can someone tell me please where to buy that thing that indicate the current gear please? Thank you
www.healtech-electronics.com/products/gipro/gpxt
Did you buy it??
@@EuropeanDreamz no, I'm sorry
@@fabiobrambilla6922 no worries 🤘
The main reason i was looking at the 690smc is the new 2018/19 has been made with a lower seat hight and a bigger tank which is good for me a 5.7 tall.
Ah makes sense 👍
Where did you find that information ? I could only find some reviews saying it still has the same 35 inch / 890mm seat height ..
i feel like ditching my 4cylinder 1200 after watching this...its amazing we can do so much on a large bore single cylinder engine today!
You own a Super Duke 1290 and still you're in love twith this Husky. It most be good. Got to try it. My current bike is a Ducati Monster 821 (2017)
Great video, I love mine 2018 SM
An honest review of something for once! Been looking at the SMC (had EXCS in the past for enduro) & 701.
Any idea on the '18 release date?
Also. Have you done anything 100+ miles? I travel to my parents a lot & it's 150 miles. Wondering what it's like & what the range on the tank is?
+Moto Dork thanks Mate, I've no news on 2018 version I don't think it will change much.. Yes I've done 150+ miles in a day on it, tank range is about 110 miles give or take.. it's very good on fuel. Only downside to long distance is the hard seat
Hey Chop. Didn't want to buy a '17 and then '18s come out a day later! Seat can be swapped I guess, and I can't imagine the SMC is any comfier. Not that I can actually find one.
Appreciate the help, so I've linked to your channel a couple of times on a blog I've started, ready to start posting up pictures & videos :)
motodork.com/best-supermotos-my-1st/
I wonder why all english speaking say "husqAvarna"? Love your reviews by the way.
There is a company in Germany who sell a new spring for the gear selector inside the gearbox, that will get the false neutral sorted if you are interested. Awesome videos you have. I'm curious if you would test the tenere 700?
Company details please?
couldn't find the oil leak, is that the particular person at the dealership you spoke to, their way of saying we cant be bothered to have it stripped apart to fit a new seal ? lol, sorry just my un-trusting nature towards men in either suit's or very clean overall's at dealership's, I worked as a panel beater ( now known as someone that takes a panel off and put's another one on rather than repair ) and i met some dodgy not interested unless their making a lot of money peaple whilst working in that trade, that was a ford and vauxhall franchised place though, not saying all dealerships or franchised bike or car places are like that, sorry about that, i haven't had a bad week honest ;)
nice bike though getting to the subject mate, what weight are them 701's they look really light
+Daz070 yes I think so! I told them it was leaking, it was clean without anything dripping when I dropped it off. I suspect they started the bike from cold for 30 secs and no leakage so that was that!
i came on here hoping to lose interest in the bike... but now i just want it more than ever
Hey LCR! Was just wondering about which of the seats you bought? I can see there's an "original" kind and a tall one.. Gonna buy one, but are a bit unsure if I should go for the regular one or the tall one:/ Scared the "tall" one will look stupid:p
+martinmyrene mine is the regular and I find it perfect. I was like you didn't want to risk it looking odd... they don't have any pics of the tall one either
Yeah, I noticed:/ But thank you for replying, I'm pretty sure I'll go for the regular one too! Now I just have to find some enduro-friendly mirrors:p Wanted the Rizoma's, but jeez, they cost a fortune:O
Just crashed my 2019 ZX6R, def thinking about going this route in March 2020. Great video!
It's march 2020 - what did you decide?
@@lionhead333 it’s currently March 2021, we’re all dying of anticipation
June 2021 what did u get
Dang, I didn’t realize this was still here! Sorry! I actually fixed my ZX6R and it’s running smooth. Didn’t get the super moto 😅
I will buy a supermoto one day. So, be prepared!
I've owned an '08 WR250X for almost two years. It's insanely fun, and yeah I want a 701 like mad but don't be afraid to start with the Yammie. It's a very good bike.
Do you think it would be possible to put the tach from the KTM 690 on the 701.?
Clarence Cohen Google "trailtech" they make universal tacometers with a single wire pickup that simply wraps around the plug lead to detect spark. Nothing invasive just cable ties (zip ties) and a handlebar clamp. They do make full feature units for enduro with speed, time, clock, laptimer, tacho, temperature etc. Their temp pickups are either coolant hose inline, or a schweet k-type that attaches to a copper washer that your spark plug screws down on, between the plug and the head.
glad you are loving the 701!! I think I need one in my life too :D
+BHP Bikes yes it's a great bike and everyone needs one in their life 😀
Lamb Chop Rides I already love bombing round on my crf so can totally get the attraction
Unfortunately it's pretty much the same as SMC 690 which has been exactly the same since 2014. Nothing to be that astonished about.
True. If they release a 2018 model with some decent weight savings and more refined engine I might nab one. What impresses me the least is that my 500exc has a better power/weight ratio than either of these bikes.
Aprilia was on the right track with the SXV, too bad it was horribly unreliable.
One year and it hasn't been stolen. Amazed & happy for you of course...
Hi there :) are you guys able to wheelie the 701 in the 2nd gear without the clutch?
Cheers
I've had my 701 for over a year now, and still absolutely love it. never fails to make me grin.
I did commute on it all over winter too ;).
+spammachine great to hear, what's it like as a commuter?
It's fantastic. Nice and thin for filtering, and can blip away from traffic when needed. I mainly commute around Birmingham, and even there, there's lots of nice corners to have fun with... sensibly of course ;). I ACF50'd it over winter, but the downpipe is a looking a bit rusty at the front where most of the road grid hits it - everything else looks great though.
The husky 701 brought me to your channel mister :). You seem to love it a lot! Don't you miss it now that you had to let her go? I miss the 701 ride outs with your mates, i really enjoyed watching all of them :). I think you need to buy it back, you have room for it :D Ride safe!
+bioni76 yes I did love it, it will be missed. But never say never, the enduro bikes are just as fun plus you can go proper offroading. Winter time will be lots of enduro bikes 😎😎
to clarify the 2016 ktm 690 and 701 share the same motor but not the 2017 the 701 got a new updated motor
Yeah, the 2017 has the new 690 Duke motor in, Ive borrowed the Duke the engine is very nice
@@LambChopRides more reliable as well from what I hear.
Do they come with pillion pegs in the box like the KTM? I've never seen a 701 with them fitted.
around 2K miles per rear? Ouch!
At least you're saving wear on the front ;)
I say not enough front brake usage xD
Loads of 701s at Loomies on sunday. I think people are getting the message that they are more fun than sports bikes... at least on the road. Glad you are promoting the lanes. Our group ride the lanes all the time and never see another bike... they are all stuck in traffic on the A272!
haha that was me and my 701 mates :-) there was 5 of us in total hehe
Cool. Are you working for Husy Sport! Ha ha. With a supermoto you get more laughs per gallon and you see more of our lovely countryside.
That looks such a fun bike!!! May have to try one now.. Aaahhhhhh
That's a 1290 Superduke, a Tuono Factory, and now a 701!! You're going to cost me a fortune 😳😁
By the way, I bloody hate GoPro's too, nothing but problems with the Hero models, but I find the sessions are fairly good.
+teapotone you and me both bloody bike shopping list getting long & longer! 😂😂 yeah that gopro been sold on now, my hero 4 Silver been perfect for 3 years, just bought a second black and this one seems fine.. trouble with session is the battery life but I guess it's OK if your only riding for a couple of hours
Lamb Chop Rides Aye I use the sessions for B-roll footage, use the Drift for main helmet cam stuff and DSLR and phone for piece to cam work 👍
1 year owner still calls it a huskavarna
Gijs Schoonaard who cares
Brendan Mahrt idk Bremdon Merht, why would someone care?
I never knew the 701 had a separate battery for the clock... That's quite dumb... I wonder if there's a mod to connect it directly to the main battery isntead.
+AiroRider it's connected to the main battery also, when the watch battery goes you only loose the clock and trip mileages. It's a pain as like being able to tell the time whilst riding! They work but reset when you turn the bike off
What levers are you using! I cannot find any for my 701
im thinking about selling my 07 510smr for a new 701 just cuz the oil changes..
+stickerbomb moto never tried one but supposed to be amazing so can't compare unfortunately. 701 is great though and 6k servicing is incredible for the performance compared to enduro / competition machines. Dropping a tooth on the front has made it feel like a competition bike tbh
Where do you buy your aftermarket parts for your 701? i am simply looking for something like those levers and cant find anything here in the US help! I am willing to buy from the UK as long as they ship to the US. Thanks
+devon gawlik do a search for mud pig racing most of my parts are those, eBay seller
Lamb Chop Rides i found them, tons of good parts, but not willing to ship to the US. Thanks for your help. I went to R&G directly to get bike protection but will have to figure out where i can get other parts.
supermoto seems to be the way forward ! maybe one day...
It's the only bike lol
+ft rider do it!!!
I'm so envious about anyone that can wheelie, I couldn't even do it on my bmx in the 80s and my mountain bike in the 90s, or even when I tried when taking my bike test in 94, though that was only a 125cg 🤪 great video, they all are that I've watched 👀 😊
Never too old to practice
naaah this bike makes it much easier to do..its not your fault
Very insightful review.
Regarding the false neutrals, 5th and 6th gears have three dogs instead of four, hence these two gears are especially prone to false neutral or slipping out of gear.
I have replaced the stock shifting arm with the Pro Tuning shift kit for my '16 Duke R and no more false neutral! It's a 100 quid fix and only takes 20 minutes to swap out.
www.ktmforums.com/forums/duke/68914-pro-tuning-shift-kit.html
I do miss my Husky SM510R, am looking into the KTM 790 duke for next year as I think it will possibly offer almost the same experience with added legs for the longer journeys.... I don't think it'll be much more comfy though lol :D
+Hippo-Drones I've never tried the 510 but loads of people rate them, it's on my to try list! I'm also looking foward to 790, also keen to see next year's 690! Oh so many bikes 😎😎
It had an oil leak from the factory??
Where are you guys based Mr Chop? Would love to come ride my 701 with you's!!
Yes super moto are fun have a ccm 604 😀
3 rear tyres in 4500m ouch I've just picked up a set of those for my drz 400 sm and I was reading on the forums that you'd get 3000m on a rear 5000m on a front but I suppose your bike is twice the power of a drz. Where they just bald in the middle or where the edges well worn as well? PS I haven't actually fitted them yet I got 2mm left on my rear and 3mm left on the front so probably another 1000m for me until I swap or 1 track day.
+bchant19 yeah I've just put the third on so worn out two rears and one front. It's the middles which go on the rear and the edges on the front, I must say the other guys get better wear than me, tufty rear lasted 4.5k. It's the wheelies which kill my rear
it can be done then but I have a bit of the heavy right wrist action myself as well so I think if I can get 3000m out of the rear I'll be happy got a great deal on a set so I'm not too fussed about longevity as long as they last the summer and have loads of grip that's all I want seen as the sm is just my toy bike anyway 😁
+bchant19 I love them I'm sure you will too! Special compound for an SM as the bikes are lighter so they heat up enough. Sure you will get 3k out of the rear no probs 👍
Lamb Chop Rides I've heard bad things about the wet grip though not that I'm want to ride in the rain but you know how it is in UK especially this time of year it can rain anytime really even if the sky is clear. Have you had any issue with them on a wet surface?
I wish I could do only 4K miles on a bike. I can’t get off it that’s my problem my first year of riding did 15k miles then the Covid came I had 2 bikes and 20k miles in total I need something to last like a gs1200 but I really would love this 701 as a back road local ripper
For a first bike, befinder, Would This be too much or?🤔
htothejay yes 500 cc too Much 😀
I’m so frustrated that I’m 5’9 and I won’t be able to touch the ground with both feet.
5'10 riding a 525 exc ktm sm. It's very light so no need for both feet on the ground
im 5,9 and ride the 690.. its the same height as any other SM really.. youll be fine.. you get used to it
173cm. Here. Who gives a fuck?
Thats nuts.
5’7” it’s 100% worth the acrobatics of getting on and off 😂
I'm 5'9 and have no issues riding any bike out there.
Stop being a bitch lol
I know this vid is a bit old now but how was the healtech quickshifter on the 701? Was thinking about one for my 2013 690.
It all depends on how you ride the bike. If you torque it around the city and backroads .. maybe. If you ride it sporty/agressively or on track, 100% DO IT.
COVER YOUR REAR BRAKE! that first wheelie got me worried XD
Stfu dude 🤡
Il most likely be trading my MT07 for either a 701 or a 690 later in the the year! this was a very interesting video though!
+TheJittyMan mt07 is a great bike took one out for the afternoon was impressed. Not quite up to the fun level of the 701 though 😁
I put 5k miles on my 19 with full bolt ons and a dyno tune. Only issue is I have the same tiny tiny oil leak. And I replaced the slave cylinder just bc they’re known to fail.
Lol tiny tiny oil leak. My yammie xt660 has 30k miles and hasn’t had a single leakage or problem. When it comes to quality nothing beats the japanese.
Hello sir want To ask you how did you change the routing of the throttle and braking hose so they dont scratch the front panel
I don't think he rerouted them. Just a piece of paint protectionfilm underneath the cables.
Glad you're still loving the bike chap, she looks great! I'm always getting false neutrals between 5th and 6th and fairly often between 4th and 5th, could be worse on the older bikes or maybe it's just me... If you're ever looking for another 690 to join for a ride, you know who to message ;D
thanks Jambo, sure dude will let you know when we are all out again :-)
Don't ride the 2017 version, you'll want one 🙈
+SupermotoCentral yeah afraid of that haha
I just spent 2000
miles on it during the 701 rideout, much better motor than the 2016 version. sell it while it still has some reasonbly low miles on it 😁
+SupermotoCentral haha I tried one today, yes very quickly. I would say half the vibes of the 2016 but didn't feel quicker than mine as I have the power commander so hard to judge. Going to wait and see what ktm do with the 690 next year 😀
Im getting my 1st supermoto. Ive watched all you videos thank you. Im still torn between this or the KTM690
The 701 will be brand new where as the 690 will be 2nd hand.
Are these bikes ok for large people, Im 120kg will it pull ok?
The 701 sm/E 2017 model has the updated better engine than the ktm690 smcr/E. The bike's stock rear suspension sucks for anyone above 80 kgs. If you plan to get it you will have to upgrade the rear shock spring from 69nm to 90 nm or more depending on what is available on rally-raidproducts. Basically the bike doesn't come full ready to ride for anyone.
+Air Doctor I disagree, I'm 110 KG and bike handles fine. Yes ideally I want a stiffer rear spring but still quick on track in stock form. I've not even increased the preload on the spring yet as you have to remove it. I would say go for it Mr Partridge 👍
Check the term "setting the sag". The stock rear spring is too soft for my 90 kgs weight(100 kgs with full gear) to be set correctly. If you already haven't set the sag on your bike then unfortunately you don't know exactly how much better your bike would feel in terms of handling. 69nm spring rate is made for standard weight riders which is between 70kg and 80 kgs.
I have already dissected the rear end of my bike and was forced to over preload the spring to get a decent riding sag. Over pre loading is a sign that the spring is too soft. Which would end up making your rear end of the bike static sag way too much.
Hope this clarification , helps you understand my point of view. Same thing with many* of the mods you have made , gear indicator etc. The spring has to be on your list also add to it the hydraulic preload adjuster to avoid dissecting the rear end of the bike every time you want to increase the preload ;)
+Air Doctor I get what your saying exactly and your right I do want to upgrade the shock. I set the sag on the blade so know the process and your right it could make a huge difference... my point was even stock it's fine, can probably be improved of course but don't be put off buying if your a larger gent 👍
Nah nah it is not like I'm going to gain 3% profit off his purchase of the bike.
"Are these bikes ok for large people, Im 120kg will it pull ok?" Just answering his question objectively. :D
It's a cheap upgrade anyways , probably he might wana do a deal with the dealer to install it for free! See we saved him time and money :D (rally-raidporducts)
You are upsetting me with those wheelies
+Im Dead Silence haha be you in 6 months!!
Dream bike goals.
Did you have to replace the clutch 700 miles later
got a 2020 690 in july , great fun !!!
701 Supermoto or 701 Enduro? People say you can convert the Enduro to Supermoto but not vise versa.
both options are posible enduro to sm and sm to enduro
@@robsjoe1 Idk about that man. All the forums I've read up on state otherwise. 🤔
@@c-zen890 I know at least on the older smc the caliper will hit spokes on oem rims. Also head angle and axle placement make it really twitchy in the dirt
@@humzilla707 Possibly they changed it for the newer models then. Some other Motovlogger who rides a 701 Enduro said he bought the SM package at his dealer and it was with Warp Wheels and it was "plug n play". Well a tad bit of shaving down the forks to get the SM set-up to fit.
@@c-zen890 I was referring going from sm to enduro. Enduro to sm is plug and play-ish, stuff like the kick stand will be a small issue
How many RPM's in top gear at 70mph with stock gearing? Thanks in advance. :-)
+Johnny Smokestack no rev counter so hard to tell! Cruises at 80 no bother though
Wanna ask where can I find ur 701's brake lever .it looks pretty good thx
OMG, you sir are first who i've seen keep the footpeg rubbers. bin those now, mate. also nice to see wheelies are getting better.
dont love the gear box on the 690.. clunky SOB.. Best thing about 690 is people dont freak out thinking its a 250 or something, but it goes like a sport bike til bout 110mph
In the comments below, you say that it's normal for one of these bikes to use 1.5 litres of oil in 1,000 miles. How can that be normal?
because of the break in period
Only thing what puts me off this bike is no rev counter
honestly once you get used to it you'll never need it again. I learned riding on oldtimers which never had rev counters and never ever missed looking at that rev counter. On my R6 I realised I never ever really look at it to be honest
Fuck the tachometer we need a fuel gauge
When i started to the video i was like " this dude is going in the wrong lane, wth" then i figured out you are from England :D
I use to have GoPro Hero 4 Black it's ok camera but when i got the DRIFT ghost S i never look back on GoPro, unless i'm using it for differnt stuff lol nice video :)
I am planning to get one but i will mainly commute with it at about 100 to 120 km/h which is 64 till 74 miles an hour, would you still say fuck it and get one or is it too much of a struggel with the wind blasting?
I don't have that bike but.... Just ask any chopper rider with no windscreen. It sucks balls... Your neck gets tired from being pushed from the wind. and the helmet buffeting is felt much more. Its totally do-able but it just sucks for longer rides. depending on your height/weight and what jacket you are wearing, you might feel like a parachute at high speeds too. I bought a taller windscreen for my hayabusa because my neck would actually be sore for a day or two.On short rides, who cares right?
I like the breeze on my drz400
I only ride dry weather too. I hate being rained on at work why would i ride in it.
brilliant review.
been thinking of getting the 2017, supermoto but not sure how it would handle motorways, day in day out.
In the past, I've owned a Honda FMX650 and I know it's not a proper supermoto but I loved it. But wasn't the best bike for motorways. A head on wind would zap all the power.
Can you tell, what yours is like for distance rides. I ask because my commute is about 40 minutes but once a month, I do a 2 hour journey to visit relatives. I've not found a bike yet. That can do the journal in one hit. Even breaking the journey half way. Still leaves a sore bum.
I don't really want the expense and weight of an adventure bike.
So when are you buying the Tuono or SDR1290? lol
+semajohn89 it can handle motorways no problem just windy! There are better bike for commuting for sure though but it's serious fun 😀
Hi. brilliant review. I just bought a 2017 701 Enduro. started looking for a european seat concepts dealer and I can't find one. did you buy yours in the UK? and is the seat cover on your the original or the seat concepts one?
+Bo B. Jacobsen I did get it from the US, don't think they have a European dealer unfortunately 😣
thanks. I'll just have to order it from uncle Sam land the 😬
Have loved every minute of 701 ownership! Supermoto 4 life 👍🏻
Mine eats up oil like a two stroke. 1.5 liter per 1000 mile, is it ok?
Dont worry thats pretty normal
@@LambChopRides Normal!!!! No way am I buying one of these, then. And I was thinking about it.
The key is to change the run in procedure to get the piston rings to seal up properly. There’s loads of stuff around about it. Check out MotardSteve’ s RUclips video. Basically, if you do this the bike won’t burn oil at all. You’ll get much better engine life as the cylinder won’t coke up either
Top end rebuild
Just ride it in hard and you’ll never have this issue
Just ordered fork seals and that counter shaft sprocket seal and o-ring myself for my 17 with just under 3k on. Seal looked fine when put on 15T but weeps still and no groove yet in spacer from the seal lip. Was leaking a lot, enough to drip on garage floor but washed and cleaned chain lube gunk and was better when changed the sprocket this weekend. Fork leaking pretty good, slower after using seal buddy but didn't stop. Fork seals are a expensive kit, double what they are on any bike I have replaced on yet. Fuel screen plugged up once and kept shutting off, cleaned and fine since but yeah its a fun bike but not Honda reliable IMO for a road machine. Do like the tires, they grip and soft tires that grip wear out faster so expected. Wish they made the throttle tube with less slop, feels like a child engineered it.
+Aspired329 thanks for the feedback, I've avoided fork seals yet still not done seal yet buy doesn't seem to be leaking as bad as it was... your right about throttle tube all ktm's are the same.. it's a pet hate of mine also but guess you get used to it..
A year already?! That's gone fast! Getting good at the wheelies ;) another ace vid mate, take care!
+2Stroke Squashie yeah I know incredible isn't it! Time flys when your having fun eh haha. Thanks dude on the wheelies do love em 😎😎
A bike you can ride hard pretty much anywhere, unlike whatever is next to come ;)
+Samuel Wicks haha 😉😉😉
Could you do reviews on the latest 600 bikes? Like the zx6r. I know theyre a fart in the wind for you performance wise, but still fun to see what they got.
+Victor L going to be testing all sorts soon Victor, your right some 600 would be a good idea!
2 year update if you still got the bike please :)
Yes sorry sold now
wat ur ridin now?
@@LambChopRides A lot of problems?
I must have an iron backside, every bike I've owned where people complain about the rigidity of the seat I've loved it... Firmer is betterer!
+krazed0451 haha you must! You must have buns of steel 😂😂
Please can you explain if the wings exhaust is road legal and by fitting it are you removing the cat ?
Yes, Wings removes the cat.
@@TomErikBrauer It's just a slip-on muffler so why would it remove the cat ?
@@mooiboyace Because the cat is inside the huge original muffler. The front parr is just a pipe
Tom Erik Brauer Never knew this, thank you !
Re that primary sprocket leak: Just check that the nut is nipped up properly, the one on my 690 loosened off even though it is tabbed. Just torqued it up and problem solved ✌
Very tempting to add a supermoto in the garage with the Panigale, also, I love how you need to watch right to the end on your vids Chops, it's like not leaving the cinema when the credits roll!
+Liam Kiely would highly recommend trying one Liam, rumours of a new 690 next year from KTM could be worth a look! Great companion bike to the pan 👍👍
the lack of quality control on such an expensive bike just blows my mind.
it's such a great bike so you live with them but its still inexcusable
No kidding. A crf250l is better built. Sure it doesnt have high end materials but doesnt have these quirks
Lost in heaven watching this... Lucky u got to do this in real life
I took one mean growler of a dump this mornin'. Not this evening! It was this morning.
The oil leak can be a hair line crack (is that's what it's called?) that only starts leaking when the oil get's warm.
Great review. It's a bike that's hard not to like. Yes a bit silly, and slightly impractical, but that's half the fun
+Paul Ford yeah it's not practical but can do most things... only thing it can't do is long distance as it's hard work. But super comfortable once you sort the seat 😀
Where did you get it from? Im not seeing many local Husky dealers near London
I bought it from Husky Sport near Winchester which is my local dealer
Ah ok cheers thats not too far, i did see that shop on google maps but as it was so tiny and didnt have a website i didnt bother looking into it.
Are these lanes you ride on around the Winchester area too? i live closer to London and dont see many lanes that nice!
Quick question, I see you use gear indicator? What make is it? Where do you connect this to? Nice wheelies btw 😜
u gave miles in a british video. Thanks!
Yep we're only half way in the metric system. No Brit would have a clue how far a KM is. Our fuel is priced in litres but know consumption in miles per gallon.
Mine - Wobbly instrument lights: check, leaking oil from same place as you, check. A few others; stickers fell off wheels (don't care), drinks more oil than fuel (over exaggeration), sometimes won't start (F1 fault - throttle position sensor) seems to have fixed itself. Done 5500 miles, squeezing the life out of original tyres (agreed they are awesome!). All in all, I love this bike sooo much. Considering these things get thrown around I'm surprised that they don't fall apart. Testament to very good build quality. Anything else feels heavy and slow turning. I'd love to get my hands on a Husky FS 450 Supermoto for the weekend. But the 701 is the perfect blend for me!!!
+Chris Burgess haha yeah did mention oil burning but cut that bit as going on too long 😁 not had the starting issue I will watch our for that.. yeah agreed on the FS 450 👍
Inseperable Generation cool thx :- )