Just something to consider: there’s really no such thing as an Android arc and Cell arc. If that were to be believed, the former would begin at the beginning of the arc and end with Vegeta monologuing to himself after an inconclusive defeat. That’s not a complete story arc; that’s just a beginning, a couple things happening, then an abrupt end. I know this is how it is for you, and I’m not gonna step on your toes here, but there’s only one arc, not two. I call it the Cell arc personally, since while it didn’t originally involve him, that’s what the story morphs into as its “final form” and leads to being about. Or the Androids/Artificial Humans arc to accentuate the fact that the main focus/villains are all these.
It's more a fan thing. There's only Saiyan, Frieza, Cell and Buu arcs. But when in detail, those can be divided in more mini arcs. Cell saga being a unique case since Cell was never planned from the beginning, the Androids were. So you can see the abrupt change from one to the other.
Im glad you did a tier list/power scaling video rather than just throwing out random numbers like those old power level videos did. I agree with most of the rankings but I think Gohan is stronger than Tien. He trained for 3 years with Goku and Piccolo, and he had already nearly surpassed Tien even during the Saiyan arc. Tien is impressed by Goku’s power against Android 19, while Gohan is not - because Gohan had trained with a full power Goku during the time skip. Given how much growth Piccolo made from training with Goku, I think it’s fair to assume Gohan made great gains as well. Gohan being sent away from the fights has more to do with him being a child than his actual power level in my opinion. I think the adult characters wanted to keep him out of harms way unless it was absolutely necessary. In the Namek arc Gohan and Krillin were literally the only options, so he had to fight, but in this arc all of the adults are present. Obviously a tri beam would kill Gohan, but otherwise I think he wins.
I clicked (with my finger on a touch screen so I guess not really a click) on this because of “new creator pity” and the cool thumbnail, but my guy, you are the scientist this review scene needs. Nice ! 👍 🎉
@@sadclownjoin5021 I did? I don't agree with this guy...his word isn't law. Toriyama has always said that Krillin is the strongest human... Krillins feats are better. Tien did hold off semi perfect cell bc his KKH does damage way above his PL but it literally kills him.
@@sadclownjoin5021 Krillin did better during the Saiyan saga too. Hell he was the only human (besides Gohan) who survived against nappa. On namek Krillin was super vital. Idt Tien would've been more useful.
@@thediaz07 Your logic doesn’t quite apply but whatever. He's actually never said it. An interviewer said it, then he agreed. It was an interview that happened years after the series ended. I don't care who’s stronger anyway, but suggesting that krillin is only half of freezers final form is ridiculous.
I'll make a case for tien being B tier, if he somehow could goad vegeta or imperfect cell into taking the full brunt of a shin kikoho he would probably dust them at the cost of his own life, tien stating he wont be of much use is probably him realizing that if his opponents put the effort in avoiding the shin kikoho he would just die in exchange to only wounding or seriously wounding them But tien would get absolutely and utterly MOGGED by any character that can absorb energy 19 Dr. Gero Any character that has the android barrier 17 18 Semi/Perfect Cell Any character that can teleport Goku Any character that can kinda teleport(?) Guldo (If he could goad tien into trying to kill him with the shin kikoho)
@@Antonio-hb8rd "if he somehow could goad vegeta or imperfect cell into taking the full brunt of a shin kikoho he would probably dust them at the cost of his own life" you dont say
Humans cannot be more powerful than Frieza because that would mean the Saiyans are even much stronger in their base form, and that can't be the case since there are a couple of occasions during the Android saga where it's still remembered that Trunks could easily defeat Frieza but couldn't against the Androids. If Frieza were so insignificant as to be left behind by everyone, he wouldn't be used as an example of someone powerful. Furthermore, both Tien and Krillin continue to mention and remember Frieza as someone too powerful during the Android saga.
I believe you’re wrong because your statement is made under the presumption that human/earthlings or frankly any non daily a functions like Santana in that they need transformations to achieve the heights of their strength. There are many instances of non Saiyan beings acquiring great power relative to the arc through training merit. A base human is likely not the same as a base saiyan. Humans likely have more inherent base potential overall. I don’t want to rely on this as an example but dragonball Xenoverse 1 and 2 has received some direction from Toriyama and those created characters function where humans are some of the best “balanced” base fighters in the game stats wise and saiyans only dominate ahead due to transformations statistical boosts and other passive assistance qualities.
I love your videos, man, and im not the kind of guy who would ever take power scaling seriously, but there aint no WAY yamcha’s even close to what frieza was. I think the androids meant that he looked like goku.
That's false, tho. They clearly mistake his power for goku. Both the manga and anime make it pretty clear. Yamcha even has winning quotes against super saiyan level characters in games. Yamcha Ws: Dragon ball •Hungry kid goku •Great ape kid goku(Team effort with Puar. Oolong helped in the anime) •11 Tournament participants •Transparent •Kid Chi Chi •2 Armed robbers(anime) •2 Rabbit gang goons •21 Martial artists(anime) Mystical adventure •Andre the giant Dragon ball Z anime •Saibaman •Gorilla •Olibu •Recoome •Piccolo(Triple teamed with tien and Chiaotzu) Dragon ball raging blast •Vegeta(Yamcha's resolve) •Trunks(Yamcha's resolve) •Krillin(special winning quote) •Tien(SWQ) •Android 18(SWQ) •First form cell(SWQ) •Saibaman(SWQ) •Turles(SWQ) •Future Gohan(SWQ) Dragon ball budokai 3 •Tien(World tournament) •Vegeta(World tournament) •3-4 other tournament participants Dragon ball xenoverse 2 •CAC character(3 failed training quotes) •Gohan(Yamcha is number 1) •Piccolo(Yamcha is number 1) •Tien(Yamcha is number 1) •Between 583 to 604 Time patrollers(Possibly 2,300+/Yamcha's rampage) •Held his own against 3 saibamen, androids 21, 13, 18, 17, 16, and Cell max. All of which were being amped by Fu except cell max. (The man, the myth, the Yamcha) Dragon ball super manga •3 convicts Dragon ball super •God of destruction baseball Dragon ball attack of the saiyans: •Boss rabbit •6 Elite rabbit gang guards •6 Rabbit gang privates •1 Wolfman •1 Bear bandit Fighter Z[Doesn't count for scaling due to machine nerfing people's power] •Android 21(Team effort with Piccolo, Goku, Vegeta, Gotenks, android 18/17, Krillin, Tien, Buu, and Gohan) •Nappa and Saibaman(special winning animation) •Yamcha clone • More or less 16 cloned z fighters and villains •Krillin(SWQ) •Tien(SWQ) •Goku/Ssj/Ssjb(SWQ) •Vegeta(Saiyan saga/SWQ) •Vegeta/Ssj/Ssjb(SWQ) •Piccolo(SWQ) •Ultimate Gohan(SWQ) •Trunks Ssj(SWQ) •Android 18(SWQ) •Goku black or Bardock(SWQ) •Gotenks(SWQ) •Gogeta(SWQ) •Vegito(SWQ) Kakarot •2 Capsule corp enhanced pirate robots •33-50 Frieza soldiers(300-450 hundred frieza soldiers vs. 9 Z fighters.) •1 Individual amongst the ginyu force, Cui, Appule, and 6 super commandos •Gohan Heroes World mission •Seven Red ribbon enhanced Saibamen(Assisted by saiyaman 4) •Dr Gero(Assisted by saiyaman4) Fusions •Saibamen •Saibaking(Assisted by tekka and Goku) •Stabba •Vegeta Curse of the blood rubies •5 Gurume soldiers Heroes ultra god mission: •Chilled(Double teamed with Vidro) •3 glass soldiers •Captured fairy Dragon ball legends: •2 Saibamen Burst limit: •Android 18(SWA) •Tien(SWA) Budokai tenkaichi: •Android 20(SWA) •Kid goku(SWQ) •Saibaman(SWQ) •Tien(SWQ) •Krillin(SWA) Goku's legacy 2: •Gohan(SWQ) Dokkan battle: • Red ribbon soldiers • Yamcha, Trunks, and the protagonist hold their own against Towa, Fasha, Borgos, and Shugesh. The ginyu force show up(Jeice, Burter, Recoome, and Guldo), and team up with bardock's crew, making it a 3 v 8. They are losing, but Tien arrives, giving them the opportunity to retreat. • 1 Crusher Corps member Sparking zero: • 3 Saibamen(Depths of despair again) • 2 Tournament participants(Yamcha games) • Tien(SWQ) • Chiaotzu(SWQ) • Master roshi(SWQ) • Kid goku(SWQ)
Great video! I agree with most of what you said except I think Krillin is stronger than Tien. I was hoping you would comment on who you think is stronger between Mecha Frieza and Andriod 19 & 20 because I always see debates on it even to this day with good points from both sides.
Hey poohead is there space in the dbz and anime lore community for a channel exclusively focusing on power levels with amv-esque editing? I noticed Sedmo quit his work, and I really want to do something besides sparking zero gameplay.
I'd say that's up to you, my man. I didn't think I was really niche, but people tend to think my approach to DBZ is different from other guys. I think if you got the editing skills and wanna try it, there's no harm in that. You won't know unless you do it
@@pooheadz189Thank you for this comment, it motivated me to give it a shot in 2025! Also, for all it’s worth, you’ve likely garnered viewers who choose to think critically over every detail presented in lore. With that comes a fanbase of longevity, we’re here for the long haul fam.
I definitely think that'd be something that'd garner a good bit of views. People love power level videos with barely any editing at all, so this would be an improvement.
considering rof gohan's base power, and goku's strength in daima, there low key may be a huge difference between Perfect Cell, Super Perfect Cell/SS2 Gohan & Rageful SS2 Gohan
base vegeta did do more damage to gero's door than tien & krillin, but it only gets weird if gohan is deemed weaker than base vegeta & goku pre-time chamber
Bro, sorry, but I can't sit through any more power scale videos; the whole thing is so convoluted and fantastical that it boarders on the grotesque. Let's just admit that Toriyama's writing on this was incongruous with all reason and logic. However, I will leave you a like to help in the algorithm.
Hey it's no worries, that's why I don't really do these. But I felt the Android saga was so contradictory that people might need some help with it. Appreciate the like!
@@mrpopo8298 how dare you dude, I would drag my greasy cocj and ballès through miles of broken glass and mint scented isopropyl alcohol just for the privilege to lick poohead’s feet like a small dog
With app due respect this tier list is utterly nonsense. One highly blatant miscue is Gohan being slightly stronger than Krillin during the Android saga but also throughout Namek and Frieza. He clearly got zenkai after zenkai and surpassed fused Piccolo momentarily well in the millions with regard to power level with rage boost. Re watch the series and try again.
Sorry, but rage boosts, unless they become transformations, are not permanent. Gohan's PL raises, and then it lowers again when he gets tired/less mad.
@pooheadz189 no he was multiples stronger than killing able to throw hands with second form Freiza and then beat him momentarily with rage boosts and 2nd form Freiza is in the millions PL Krillin is not even close to that go back and look at official guides
@@zackhaynie7961 The final PL we get of Gohan is 200,000 after his zenkai, which made him go from the 75,000 he was right alongside krillin. Now Gohan is much stronger than Krillin, but in the Android saga when PL are in the millions, that's still not a large difference. Especially compared to Piccolo and Vegeta who are in the millions during the fight without rage boosts
Are you going to tell me krillin is faster than frieza because he was out speeding him before he cut off friezas tail? That's not how this works, re watch the series and try again
Another bangin ass video from POOHEADZ189
I need that phrase on a T shirt
Same tbh
I know it's probably easier to get out shorter content, but I love the longer videos.
I like them too! But shorter vids are definitely easier.
Not Poohead droppin a fire video for me on my home from the gym
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Just something to consider: there’s really no such thing as an Android arc and Cell arc. If that were to be believed, the former would begin at the beginning of the arc and end with Vegeta monologuing to himself after an inconclusive defeat. That’s not a complete story arc; that’s just a beginning, a couple things happening, then an abrupt end.
I know this is how it is for you, and I’m not gonna step on your toes here, but there’s only one arc, not two. I call it the Cell arc personally, since while it didn’t originally involve him, that’s what the story morphs into as its “final form” and leads to being about. Or the Androids/Artificial Humans arc to accentuate the fact that the main focus/villains are all these.
It's more a fan thing.
There's only Saiyan, Frieza, Cell and Buu arcs. But when in detail, those can be divided in more mini arcs. Cell saga being a unique case since Cell was never planned from the beginning, the Androids were. So you can see the abrupt change from one to the other.
Great video bro I didn’t put much attention to the powers pre Cell Games. This was very enjoyable for me to think back to
I appreciate that!
love your vids man, keep it up my guy.
Honestly I wish Cell stayed in his first form for the rest of the story, his design was waaaayyyy better than his next 2 forms imo
Yeah his first form was so mysterious and terrifying. Really added a mysterious sci-fi element to the saga.
Perfect Cell is an iconic villain that is still beloved like 30 years later. Hard to make an argument that a single thing should be changed about it.
Luv your content brother, always enjoyable to watch 💯💯💪🏾💪🏾
Always good to see you, Math! Thanks my dude
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Im glad you did a tier list/power scaling video rather than just throwing out random numbers like those old power level videos did.
I agree with most of the rankings but I think Gohan is stronger than Tien. He trained for 3 years with Goku and Piccolo, and he had already nearly surpassed Tien even during the Saiyan arc.
Tien is impressed by Goku’s power against Android 19, while Gohan is not - because Gohan had trained with a full power Goku during the time skip. Given how much growth Piccolo made from training with Goku, I think it’s fair to assume Gohan made great gains as well.
Gohan being sent away from the fights has more to do with him being a child than his actual power level in my opinion. I think the adult characters wanted to keep him out of harms way unless it was absolutely necessary. In the Namek arc Gohan and Krillin were literally the only options, so he had to fight, but in this arc all of the adults are present.
Obviously a tri beam would kill Gohan, but otherwise I think he wins.
I clicked (with my finger on a touch screen so I guess not really a click) on this because of “new creator pity” and the cool thumbnail, but my guy, you are the scientist this review scene needs. Nice ! 👍 🎉
LMAO thanks so much, and I appreciate you being happy you stopped by!
All of this guy's stuff is fire. I can't recommend subscribing enough.
Been binging your videos for a while, keep it up!!!
Appreciate that man, glad you're liking it!
Thanks for the shoutout, dude!
It's my honor, Liz :)
Thank god someone understands how powerful the humans actually are
Yes. Krillin is definitely the strongest human. Probably half of Freeza's final form.
@ did you not watch the video?
@@sadclownjoin5021 I did? I don't agree with this guy...his word isn't law. Toriyama has always said that Krillin is the strongest human... Krillins feats are better. Tien did hold off semi perfect cell bc his KKH does damage way above his PL but it literally kills him.
@@sadclownjoin5021 Krillin did better during the Saiyan saga too. Hell he was the only human (besides Gohan) who survived against nappa. On namek Krillin was super vital. Idt Tien would've been more useful.
@@thediaz07 Your logic doesn’t quite apply but whatever. He's actually never said it. An interviewer said it, then he agreed. It was an interview that happened years after the series ended. I don't care who’s stronger anyway, but suggesting that krillin is only half of freezers final form is ridiculous.
I'll make a case for tien being B tier, if he somehow could goad vegeta or imperfect cell into taking the full brunt of a shin kikoho he would probably dust them at the cost of his own life, tien stating he wont be of much use is probably him realizing that if his opponents put the effort in avoiding the shin kikoho he would just die in exchange to only wounding or seriously wounding them
But tien would get absolutely and utterly MOGGED by any character that can absorb energy
19
Dr. Gero
Any character that has the android barrier
17
18
Semi/Perfect Cell
Any character that can teleport
Goku
Any character that can kinda teleport(?)
Guldo
(If he could goad tien into trying to kill him with the shin kikoho)
@@Antonio-hb8rd "if he somehow could goad vegeta or imperfect cell into taking the full brunt of a shin kikoho he would probably dust them at the cost of his own life"
you dont say
I did recommend the Kai video. I think they're interesting organisms 😅
AW YEAH I was right!
Humans cannot be more powerful than Frieza because that would mean the Saiyans are even much stronger in their base form, and that can't be the case since there are a couple of occasions during the Android saga where it's still remembered that Trunks could easily defeat Frieza but couldn't against the Androids. If Frieza were so insignificant as to be left behind by everyone, he wouldn't be used as an example of someone powerful.
Furthermore, both Tien and Krillin continue to mention and remember Frieza as someone too powerful during the Android saga.
Right, Tien remembers Trunks beat Freeza but he's still helpless against the androids
dragonball fans cant read but they sure can write
What human fighters can be stronger than Saiyan Sega Frieza have you not read the manga?
I believe you’re wrong because your statement is made under the presumption that human/earthlings or frankly any non daily a functions like Santana in that they need transformations to achieve the heights of their strength.
There are many instances of non Saiyan beings acquiring great power relative to the arc through training merit. A base human is likely not the same as a base saiyan. Humans likely have more inherent base potential overall.
I don’t want to rely on this as an example but dragonball Xenoverse 1 and 2 has received some direction from Toriyama and those created characters function where humans are some of the best “balanced” base fighters in the game stats wise and saiyans only dominate ahead due to transformations statistical boosts and other passive assistance qualities.
I love your videos, man, and im not the kind of guy who would ever take power scaling seriously, but there aint no WAY yamcha’s even close to what frieza was. I think the androids meant that he looked like goku.
They only said it when they read his power and hadnt seen him. Yeah it is contentious though I didnt think it for awhile either.
That's false, tho. They clearly mistake his power for goku. Both the manga and anime make it pretty clear. Yamcha even has winning quotes against super saiyan level characters in games.
Yamcha Ws:
Dragon ball
•Hungry kid goku
•Great ape kid goku(Team effort with Puar. Oolong helped in the anime)
•11 Tournament participants
•Transparent
•Kid Chi Chi
•2 Armed robbers(anime)
•2 Rabbit gang goons
•21 Martial artists(anime)
Mystical adventure
•Andre the giant
Dragon ball Z anime
•Saibaman
•Gorilla
•Olibu
•Recoome
•Piccolo(Triple teamed with tien and Chiaotzu)
Dragon ball raging blast
•Vegeta(Yamcha's resolve)
•Trunks(Yamcha's resolve)
•Krillin(special winning quote)
•Tien(SWQ)
•Android 18(SWQ)
•First form cell(SWQ)
•Saibaman(SWQ)
•Turles(SWQ)
•Future Gohan(SWQ)
Dragon ball budokai 3
•Tien(World tournament)
•Vegeta(World tournament)
•3-4 other tournament participants
Dragon ball xenoverse 2
•CAC character(3 failed training quotes)
•Gohan(Yamcha is number 1)
•Piccolo(Yamcha is number 1)
•Tien(Yamcha is number 1)
•Between 583 to 604 Time patrollers(Possibly 2,300+/Yamcha's rampage)
•Held his own against 3 saibamen, androids 21, 13, 18, 17, 16, and Cell max. All of which were being amped by Fu except cell max. (The man, the myth, the Yamcha)
Dragon ball super manga
•3 convicts
Dragon ball super
•God of destruction baseball
Dragon ball attack of the saiyans:
•Boss rabbit
•6 Elite rabbit gang guards
•6 Rabbit gang privates
•1 Wolfman
•1 Bear bandit
Fighter Z[Doesn't count for scaling due to machine nerfing people's power]
•Android 21(Team effort with Piccolo, Goku, Vegeta, Gotenks, android 18/17, Krillin, Tien, Buu, and Gohan)
•Nappa and Saibaman(special winning animation)
•Yamcha clone
• More or less 16 cloned z fighters and villains
•Krillin(SWQ)
•Tien(SWQ)
•Goku/Ssj/Ssjb(SWQ)
•Vegeta(Saiyan saga/SWQ)
•Vegeta/Ssj/Ssjb(SWQ)
•Piccolo(SWQ)
•Ultimate Gohan(SWQ)
•Trunks Ssj(SWQ)
•Android 18(SWQ)
•Goku black or Bardock(SWQ)
•Gotenks(SWQ)
•Gogeta(SWQ)
•Vegito(SWQ)
Kakarot
•2 Capsule corp enhanced pirate robots
•33-50 Frieza soldiers(300-450 hundred frieza soldiers vs. 9 Z fighters.)
•1 Individual amongst the ginyu force, Cui, Appule, and 6 super commandos
•Gohan
Heroes World mission
•Seven Red ribbon enhanced Saibamen(Assisted by saiyaman 4)
•Dr Gero(Assisted by saiyaman4)
Fusions
•Saibamen
•Saibaking(Assisted by tekka and Goku)
•Stabba
•Vegeta
Curse of the blood rubies
•5 Gurume soldiers
Heroes ultra god mission:
•Chilled(Double teamed with Vidro)
•3 glass soldiers
•Captured fairy
Dragon ball legends:
•2 Saibamen
Burst limit:
•Android 18(SWA)
•Tien(SWA)
Budokai tenkaichi:
•Android 20(SWA)
•Kid goku(SWQ)
•Saibaman(SWQ)
•Tien(SWQ)
•Krillin(SWA)
Goku's legacy 2:
•Gohan(SWQ)
Dokkan battle:
• Red ribbon soldiers
• Yamcha, Trunks, and the protagonist hold their own against Towa, Fasha, Borgos, and Shugesh. The ginyu force show up(Jeice, Burter, Recoome, and Guldo), and team up with bardock's crew, making it a 3 v 8. They are losing, but Tien arrives, giving them the opportunity to retreat.
• 1 Crusher Corps member
Sparking zero:
• 3 Saibamen(Depths of despair again)
• 2 Tournament participants(Yamcha games)
• Tien(SWQ)
• Chiaotzu(SWQ)
• Master roshi(SWQ)
• Kid goku(SWQ)
@@myduckisonqauck7227damn you REALLY like yamcha I respect it
@@kingn0ah377 yamcha’s strongest soldier
Love this deep dive into those power levels because they made no sense when we were younger lmao
I agree with your take on tien and the humans
YAY
Great video!
Need more of this.
Gooooood vidddddd 🔥
thanks goat
Great video! I agree with most of what you said except I think Krillin is stronger than Tien.
I was hoping you would comment on who you think is stronger between Mecha Frieza and Andriod 19 & 20 because I always see debates on it even to this day with good points from both sides.
Definitely 19 & 20, though Mecha Frieza might not have been full power. Still would say 19 & 20 though
thanks
Hey poohead is there space in the dbz and anime lore community for a channel exclusively focusing on power levels with amv-esque editing? I noticed Sedmo quit his work, and I really want to do something besides sparking zero gameplay.
I'd say that's up to you, my man. I didn't think I was really niche, but people tend to think my approach to DBZ is different from other guys. I think if you got the editing skills and wanna try it, there's no harm in that. You won't know unless you do it
@@pooheadz189Thank you for this comment, it motivated me to give it a shot in 2025!
Also, for all it’s worth, you’ve likely garnered viewers who choose to think critically over every detail presented in lore. With that comes a fanbase of longevity, we’re here for the long haul fam.
Thanks so much man, and if you start making that shit, lemme know!
I definitely think that'd be something that'd garner a good bit of views. People love power level videos with barely any editing at all, so this would be an improvement.
Is Chiaotzu stronger than King Vegeta?
In this saga? Yes
@BPOOHEAD189 that's awesome
🔥🔥🔥
Krillin got a potential unlock from guru that's why he's stronger in my humble opinion
considering rof gohan's base power, and goku's strength in daima, there low key may be a huge difference between Perfect Cell, Super Perfect Cell/SS2 Gohan & Rageful SS2 Gohan
base vegeta did do more damage to gero's door than tien & krillin, but it only gets weird if gohan is deemed weaker than base vegeta & goku pre-time chamber
Yes I do agree piccolo fused with kami would win against Android 17 💯
5:44 all of them are hepful.
Because krillin was helpful against freeza.
So yamacha with a power of 24 thoudsned its still usefull.
Always glad to see poohead198 on the timeline
Thanks Hallow mah boi
Bro, sorry, but I can't sit through any more power scale videos; the whole thing is so convoluted and fantastical that it boarders on the grotesque. Let's just admit that Toriyama's writing on this was incongruous with all reason and logic. However, I will leave you a like to help in the algorithm.
Hey it's no worries, that's why I don't really do these. But I felt the Android saga was so contradictory that people might need some help with it. Appreciate the like!
@@mrpopo8298 how dare you dude, I would drag my greasy cocj and ballès through miles of broken glass and mint scented isopropyl alcohol just for the privilege to lick poohead’s feet like a small dog
With app due respect this tier list is utterly nonsense. One highly blatant miscue is Gohan being slightly stronger than Krillin during the Android saga but also throughout Namek and Frieza. He clearly got zenkai after zenkai and surpassed fused Piccolo momentarily well in the millions with regard to power level with rage boost. Re watch the series and try again.
Sorry, but rage boosts, unless they become transformations, are not permanent. Gohan's PL raises, and then it lowers again when he gets tired/less mad.
@pooheadz189 no he was multiples stronger than killing able to throw hands with second form Freiza and then beat him momentarily with rage boosts and 2nd form Freiza is in the millions PL Krillin is not even close to that go back and look at official guides
@@zackhaynie7961 The final PL we get of Gohan is 200,000 after his zenkai, which made him go from the 75,000 he was right alongside krillin. Now Gohan is much stronger than Krillin, but in the Android saga when PL are in the millions, that's still not a large difference. Especially compared to Piccolo and Vegeta who are in the millions during the fight without rage boosts
Are you going to tell me krillin is faster than frieza because he was out speeding him before he cut off friezas tail? That's not how this works, re watch the series and try again
You smoke alot man
I have asthma, I literally can't smoke
Honestly I completely disagree. I don’t think the humans are to full power frieza that soon after namek
Within the Sayian Saga they jumped from a power level weaker than Gokus to above Radtiz within about a year….
Lol if the humans are close to frieza that means they’re beating Goku in base because base goku doesn’t surpass frieza until the perfect cell fight
Tien in the bojack movie fights evenly with trunks, to the point trunks thought it necessary to go super saiyan on him.
Can you prove that?
Dragon ball fans proving yet again they can’t read lol
@@myduckisonqauck7227 first off using the movie to power scale is dumb
@@sadclownjoin5021 bro get on with that dumb shit. Please tell me when is it shown or stated that humans are above frieza the very next arc.
The thumbnail is terrible.
I think it looks good
that’s not very nice
@@dreinstar2352 that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.
Cringe