I can imagine him wearing, hyacinths and lavender and him smiling slightly whenever a bee takes a nip of his flowers. And while he passes a cloud of spring reaches your nose.
I am also quite sad that when discussing Thranduil's badassery no one mentioned the fact that he's the only Elven ruler that does not possess a ring. That's why he's KING and not some Lord. He's held off the darkness on the Greenwood for so long with only his own resources and no fancy rings that can make magical river borders that sweep off your enemies when you will it.
Wow..I've never thought about that before... his special power is he gives others that withering, superior stare, with his spiky crown and everyone else just falls in line lol
Tbh I have a feeling if Sauron ever tried anything funny again, Thranduil would just give him the Look of Doom (TM) and Sauron would shut up and leave.
You are wrong. Elrond is the only half-elf. (Arwen is a three-quarter elf, but somehow counts as half-elf, apparently. Like his two sons, which do not make an appearance in the movies.)
Well Thranduil will be in the Amazon show, although how much of him we see depends on what they consider important. After that, the obvious next adaptations would be either a movie/show about the fall of Arnor (which they’ve apparently decided Thranduil was an active part of), or the Children of Húrin. The latter movie would show us young Thranduil, albeit with none of the self-assured sophistication that we see in The Hobbit movies. To connect the audience to the story more easily though, I could perhaps see them also having Thranduil be the narrator: telling the story to a very young Legolas. After all, Legolas in LotR is similar in many ways to Beleg Cúthalion: one of the heroes of The Children of Húrin. His father would have actually known Beleg and Túrin, and perhaps even witnessed much of the story. Certainly in any case, he would know the story well: because it was Daeron, the minstrel of Doriath, who wrote the story.
Liv Tyler and Lee Pace absolutely embodied what Tolkien described as his elves. They outshine even Cate Blanchett and Orlando Bloom in how they took their place in the story.
Except for the fact that he's not actually single. Elves don't actually "die" in the sense that humans do. When they are killed in Middle Earth, they are reborn in the Undying Lands beyond the western sea. It's why elves don't take second partners, because there's always the chance of one day being reunited with them, even if they have to wait thousands of years for that to happen. And here's what this also means. At the beginning of the Fourth Age, when all the elves, including Thranduil, eventually leave Middle Earth by sailing across the western sea, they all get to be reunited with their fallen loved ones who reside in Valinor. So basically, Thranduil gets to be with his wife again, and they can all live there happily until the end of days. How do I know all of this? Well, my mother is a fan of Tolkiens works. She's also read The Silmarillion, so she's familiar with all the lore behind the elves, and she's told me about it before. But yeah, I guess my point is... sorry ladies, Thranduil is still a taken man. And a faithful one at that.
"Those gems were not all your wife left you, my friend. She left you a son. Tell me, which would she have you value more?" WHY DID THEY CUT THAT FROM THE MOVIE!!?!?
Micah Woodward They should have kept it in because it explains Thranduil's motives clearer. In the movies it just seems like he's after gems the dwarves stole from the elves. it makes it personal
although these movies had great potential i feel they were a diaster, in 20 years we could get a proper hobit film or 2 (if they learn from the mistakes of these ones) also Amazon is making something else (following Aragorn pre-lotr, a young aragorn which will either be very cool or another missed opportunity.)
Matthew Burger i don’t think so. Of course, they weren’t great, but they werent a disaster, especially because there was so much effort and hard work put into it that you can notice the greatness within the movie. The reason no remake/reboot will work is probably because the Hobbit movies are part of the universe of the Lord of the Rings movies. And since those movies then are naturally held together by the same vision of Peter Jackson, its gonna be hard to get those movies made with success. Not to mention copy right problems.
Casting Lee Pace was such a good choice. Say what you will about the overall quality of this trilogy, I sure have, but it does have some absolute bullseye moments.
I was so disappointed that the real reasons for Thranduil's obsession with the gems never really came through in the movie because of all the cutting they did. Not one mention of his wife in association with the gems came up in the movie. As a result, many people of the audience thought he went to war because he was so materialistic.
+Kalkidan Woldetsadik I didn't really think that he went to war because of being materialistic but because just like the dwarves he wanted to regain something that carried a great importance to him and his people. He does state that and we do see that he really cares for his realm (or at I felt so) so it seemed to me an honorable thing to do even though I failed to see how these gems could be of any benefit to him. But even that reason felt quite, as Thranduil would put it, "prosaic", and besides being so struck with his persona, I really wasn't able to appreciate his motivation. I'd heard that his wife was never mentioned in the books so I obviously couldn't imagine they had intended to give him such a backstory. It was only after I watched this video and realized that something else, far purer and personal, was meant to be the driving force behind his actions, I could finally connect with this character.
@Elleth Andoiel It's such an amazing expert setup, that much is obvious. It's so realistic that I actually nearly thought that the long white hair was also the actors "REAL" hair, in real life. :p And the same with Legolas actor too. I nearly thought it was also his actual, real hair in real life. :p It's just because it's so clever again..... such a professional setup with the costumes e.t.c that makes everything look so realistic, and in this way, it has a tendency to fool and surprise the mind. (at least mine) Another element of surprise I feel, is the use of *"Green Screen."* You can see it in the background here at "9:30." I almost forgot that they still used these things in films. Again, it's so amazing.... such a professional setup. I actually thought these actors were ACTUALLY.... REALLY... in these ACTUAL PLACES. :p I didn't realize before that all/ most of the scenes were acted out in a studio. (hence the green screen) But the other thing that covers this up so amazingly well, (in a filming studio) is the clever use of artificial lighting and outdoor items like bushes, trees and rocks e.t.c. It is truly amazing, all these ideas they come up with. So clever indeed. :)
I cannot get over the fact that Lee Pace was helping out in Weta Workshop making costumes. That is SO cool, and yeah it's hilarious that he helped make costumes and swords for dwarfs instead of his own elven kins.
@@martinmp19 Yep, and Círdan and Elrond both got theirs from Gil-Galad who was the original owner after Celebrimbor created the three elven rings and gave two of them to him.
Yes but we also need to remember that the Main forces of Sauron were directed towards Gondor, Dale and Lothlorian. So Thranduil didn't exactly face Saurons significant force
@@srinjoyroychoudhury7034 True, but he and his Mirkwood elves fought in assistance to the men of Dale and the Lothlorien elves, in addition to fighting in Mirkwood (and vice versa) so technically he still faced an extremely significant force.
+NewDivded If the Hobbit was done in the 80's the only person I could see as Thranduil would have been David Bowie, but only if it had a feel like Labyrinth. But since that never happened, I do agree, Lee is Thranduil, much like how Ian is Gandalf.
Okay I admit I really adore that Gandalf and Thrundrial moment especially when he says, "Those gems aren't all your wife left you she left you a son." part I was crying of how sweet it is.
I've always imagined Thranduil's fighting style to look and feel like flowing water, every slash and slice mowing down the orcs as if he was dancing. I'm glad they didn't follow through with the acrobatic flamboyant version.
@@jessie_4921 The making-of content for The Hobbit has so many nuggets of wholesome content. I admit that I think I look at them as a sorta comfort thing now. I went through a very emotionally rough period of my life during my senior year of high school, and there were times when I just heckin' stayed home. One of these times, I watched the stuff with my mom, and it was just a really nice temporary distraction from being wracked with anxiety.
Lee Pace was fucking epic as Thanduil. All the hobbit cast was just perfect. I hope if Jackson makes more movies he recast all the actor from the hobbit and LOTR.
So sad, he was so weak looking when he was shooting the hobbit, and he still did it at his age for all the fans. What a great man. I hope he's looking down from Heaven seeing how much the fans wish he was still here so they could say "thank you taking time away from the end days of your life for us, it means the world to us." RIP
I know what you mean. No disrespect to Legolas--- he's still gorgeous...but Thranduil burns with an inner fire. ...and his voice, that height, that hair like a waterfall of blonde silk...it's a whole different level of hot.
Lol I had the biggest crush on Legolas when the trilogy came out(I was in high school). And then when the Hobbit movies came out and Thranduil came onscreen I was like 'Legolas who?'.
You just have to put it aside that Lee Pace is actually younger than Orlando Bloom. It was a huge compliment to Lee’s performance that he was convincing as being a far older, wiser Elf, but pained by ancient wars that he has a coldness that Legolas doesn’t have.
Lee Pace was so good in this role. In my opinion, arguably one of the top 3 most charismatic and badass in the entire Hobbit/LOTR movies. He really invested himself time and training-wise in the role and it shows.
Before the Hobbit movies I thought I was past the elf crush stage, because I had a huge crush on Legolas when I was younger. But oh how wrong I was. That elf crush stage came back and hit me like a train when we got to meet Thranduil.
Thranduil is the most beautiful elf ever!! And I like Peter Jackson's elves so much, they look so elegant with long hair and crown, their movements scream that they are elves, ...much better than The ring of power...
They could do a film about the war in the north. During the war of the third age, Erebor was sieged by the orcs and goblins. In good faith he helped defend the lonely mountain.
Me: watches LOTR and falls hopelessly in love with Legolas and Haldir... Me: watches The Hobbit and inadvertently falls for Thranduil... My friend: you might as well fall in love with Galadriel too.. Me: Who says I didn't?
Hey, how can you not fall for an elf? Beauty is literally in their nature. Oh, and don't even get me started on the stuff that I've heard happens in the Silmarillion. Do you have any idea how many humans have fallen for elves just by the sound of their voice? Yeah, apparently that happens a lot too.
Damn... I'm in love with Thranduil's character, and Lee Pace did a incredible job. I mean... INCREDIBLE. All about Thranduil is so unique and perfect - they way he moves, the way he speaks, those expressions on his face... he did more than acting, he really was Thranduil. ... but now I also see that he's an amazing person in real life, I mean, come on! He actually worked on weapons and armour! How cool is that : D And the way he was excited about his sword, just so heartwarming : D
I was quite surprised to see Lee Pace is actually so down to earth and he was building props for the movie. He did such an amazing job as Thranduil being so fabulous and so arrogant that it comes as a shock to see how completely different he is. Love his caterpillar eyebrows!!! and definitely this time, the dad is hotter than the son. BTW I was extremely shocked that many many people HATE the addition of Taurel to the movies, since she doesn't exist in the book. They also hate one of my favorite parts of the movie, where Thranduil tells her that it hurt so much because her love was real. I mean, how can you hate that? that's mho.
People hate that scene because they consider the relationship between Tauriel and Killi an impossible travesty so to them, the idea that a character like Thranduil, who had a long-term "legitimate/books accurate" relationship, could relate to Tauriel, who fell for someone she "in the book universe" never would and whom she knew only a few weeks/ a month top, is ridiculous and preposterous. Not my opinion but hey, quite popular. But, I was also surprised how much many people hate Tauriel because honestly, her inclusion makes a lot of sense, after all, it's not the 90's anymore and unlike the dwarrowdam, she-elves aren't rare so having one as a background character is 100% realistic and one would have thought people like realism when it comes to fictional worlds. Now, I get many were bothered by her relationship with Killi and also the romantic tension with Legolas, I can see that if she'd been just Legolas' friend/Thranduil's protégé she might've been more well-liked but, that still didn't warrant all the hate and people asking for cutting her character completely.
@@baseliacaliga425 I really wish people wouldn't get so bent out of shape by fan fiction ... And the impossible relationship just was well done ... especially if you've seen some of the silliness in the appendices with the dwarf character. It's not canon, but it's not entirely out of the realm of strange things happen in times of change. And that scene between Thranduil and Tauriel after she'd confronted him earlier ... It hurts. And it's perfect.
The people in this thread are absolutely deranged for liking her character and the absurdity of her liking Kili. Not to mention the ridiculousness of her wanting that dwarf over Legolas, a most handsome son of a king who adores her. The actress herself (Evangeline) was pissed off by the love triangle trope. When she accepted the part, she made them promise that they weren’t going to insert a love triangle with her character, yet sure enough the studio execs ended up demanding just that. Not to mention that it was clearly done to replicate the Aragorn/Eowyn/Arwen love triangle in the LOTR trilogy, but that one was at least well done, because Arwen was willing to give up her immortality for a heroic king that she had known for a long time (Aragorn was raised in Rivendell for some time because he was orphaned), and Aragorn would never even consider giving Eowyn the time of day because his heart was only for Arwen. Moreover, Aragorn loved Arwen so much that he was willing to give her up because he didn’t want her to lose her precious immortality. That’s legit love. The character of Tauriel is utterly ridiculous, and the writing of her and Kili was beyond cringe, shallow, baseless, and gross. Absolutely terrible writing, and terrible lines.
yes yes please make a movie about Thranduil and his battle with great serpents of the north. That will explain his story about his love. Maybe one single movie will do
Tihanyi Dani The Tolkien estate and Warner brothers have sued each other multiple times over breach of contract for the tiniest of reasons pertaining to these movies. Christopher Tolkien is a notorious critic and hater of the LOTR movies. That old cunt needs to die before any company even has a dream of purchasing the rights to the rest of Tolkien’s books (which include the silmarillion, forgotten tales, children of Hurin, Fall of Gondolin etc.)
B K dont dream of turning middle earth into star wars with yearly movies about every single event. no one needs it it will just make it boring and reoetitive if you want to enjoy the story read the damn books.(oh btw those stories wouldnt exist as rhey are without christopher so stop hating
Yes yes, but make that 3 films, add a love triangle and add in Tom Bombadil but as a proud person of color or we scrap the movie and give it to another director who can't say no to us!
I, like, honestly feel offended that these amazing scenes were not in the movies. I feel that they give Thranduil so much more depth I suppose. When I first watched the Hobbit a few months ago, I wanted to know why he wanted the necklace so badly and the story behind all of the rings he wore. The answers I had to find on Tumblr should have been in the movies
Ugi XXI I assume she fought in a battle at Gundabad since Legolas said that is where she laid forgotten or something along those lines. I guess she was beaten by an orc or maybe she saved Thranduil from a sneak attack. The possibilities are practically limitless
Lee Pace is such a beast... I already loved him since "The Fall", but his Thranduil role is just perfect! To think it's the ONLY actor in the whole cast who didn't needed a wig or make-up... He just showed on the set, and radiates charisma, power and glory "as is", all natural.
I'm pretty sure it will happen in a couple of years, I bet what you want they are already planning a new Tolkien movie. As they did with Legolas, they'll make up some new story with Thranduil/Lee Pace 'cause he's got so many fangirls. I just hope they won't come up with some other bs like that Tauriel/Kili thing. And they better hurry up since the guy is not getting younger. 😜
11vivisection11 I know. I just meant like in general, I would really love to see a movie with Angmar ;) Maybe a movie about the northern kingdom also? The opportunities are endless :D
+Mickey Holm does anyone know any info about Zinifer the Dark Elf who is also a character in the game Heroes of Newerth it would be kind of amazing if he'd also joined this movie trilogy
one of the things i liked about five armies is seeing the real Thranduil, this broken Elven King who lost the love of his life and became so obsessed with the white gems that he utterly destroyed not only his own life but his son by pushing him away. the utter shock when Gandalf mentions to Thranduil that his wife left another gift, gift of a son and ask what Thranduil would cherish most the Elven King gives Gandalf this look of horror almost like saying that how dare you accuse me of not loving my son and that was when Thranduil realized what he had become, he had become just as greedy and arrogant as the dwarves who in the end most were actually just normal people trying to live their lives
I would love to know Thranduil's story. How he met his wife, his story with her and what happened to her. Then, young Legolas with his father. Someone would have to write the story and that's some pretty big shoes to fill! But if done right, it would be wonderful!
This otherworldly gorgeous character is the epitome of Fabulousness, Arrogance, Badassness and Hotness. Very first time I saw Thranduil he had me, and years after keeps making things for me. I had such a damn crush on him, yet hoping one day to get over him, otherwise I might get burnt. Guess what? I never did. Sassy. Alluring. Tasty. Too f*ckin good to be real. Such an inspiration... This perfect creature holds me gracefully in his strong arms... only in my dreams. Too sad I can never have him...
5:39 What a great and cute moment. A man reduces to a giggling child the second he gets his hands on a cool sword. I feel like most people would just melt with excitement like he did lol.
Thranduill is so handsome and has a beautiful face and appearance that every time I was watching the film I could notice nothing but his face 😅 Only now I see how many amazing things are made for him such as a sword, a crown, costume design etc. That's really a great work 👍
Fair reminder that after the war with the Ring, Thranduil renamed Mirkwood to something like Forest of Green Leaves. Legolas' name means Greenleaf. if that's not father-son pride I don't know what is.
Aesthetically Emotional Eyrn Lasgalen. Wood of greenleaves. It's one of my favorite things that I have ever heard and read concerning LOTR and the hobbit
I actually thought that it was called Greenwood first and then the sickness came in and people in middle earth started to call it mirkwood and the elves just went with but idk. i haven’t watched it in ages.
The scene where Thranduil/Lee stands with the sword pointed downward and slightly backward to his right almost made me weep. Incredible beautiful. I think Peter Jackson might consider putting together an extended extended version of The Hobbit and LOTR. We can't get enough of these images. Some are truly breathtaking. Thanks for sharing your remarkable insights.
whidi arto same here I want to read the hobbit and LOTR but my problem is I am more interested in the side characters than the main ones hahaha we just need separate books for the elves
The extended edition shouldn't have omitted some of this scenes, it would've made the viewer have a better understanding of Thranduil. Thumbs up for this amazing clips!
I know people have their issues with the movie but you cant dent Lee Pace was PERFECT. Martin Freeman was PERFECT and clearly a lot of love went into these films despite it being rushed and not handled as greatly as it could have been.
12:05 This scene so should've been in the movie! Wtw were they thinking leaving it out?! It revealed to people a lot about Thranduil, why he acted the way he did and is the way he is. His character development is the best. How he changes a lot but yet is still the same intimidating, fabulous king from before. He, like Loki, needs a movie all to himself.
12:05-12:18... They cut the best part out. This part adds more meaning to his existence, he is so much more than just a king. Now I feel the movie is incomplete💕💖
This is beautiful. The writer was a woman, which is fantastic, and she was a nerd. She understood the story, and everything she added to the story was in-character and well thought out. She didn't despise the world like the writers of ROP did, or go on an ego trip, trying to insert herself into the story. She respected it. This is art
even though she looked over that fact that Aragon would have only been 10, yep totally "understood" the story among all the other crap these shitty movies had in it ruclips.net/video/B5Q-TjOsU3E/видео.html
I love that they left his dark eyebrows. Made his eyes so much more beautiful and compelling against the blond hair and fair skin. Really loved Lee Pace's portrayal of thranduil.
I love Lee Pace’s interest in everything behind the scenes and how he wanted to be a part of it. He loved every aspect of the film truly and completely
Actually as a sword enthusiast, dual wielding is not practical. This is my time to show how fun I am at parties. It looks cool but you are better with just one sword. Sword and shield is the best combination for sword fighting. The only way dual wielding is practical is if you have a sword and a dagger, you use your dagger to parry and your sword to riposte. Longer than a dagger it gets in your way. Capes or cloaks are also good if you know how to use them. You grab your cloak with your off hand and try to catch your opponent with it. If you have your cloak just hanging without grabbing it then it can get on your way. Here is an example of cloak being used in combat /watch?v=EOJW-F2BKZo
Good character development, consistent with Tolkien's vision. I think the good professor would like how Thranduil's character was fleshed out by this gifted team.
Possibly, but in the book he literally says: "Long will I tarry ere I begin this war for gold!" Basicly he was much more likeable and wise in the books. So would Tolkien have liked it? No clue. I however, do like his character quite alot.
Agreed: definitely more likable and wise in the book, however the book itself says this king and his people "were more dangerous and less wise" than the High Elves--a line helpfully echoed by Beorn in the Hobbit 1 movie. The elven king's behavior toward the dwarves belied much of his fair speech, and he did choose to bring a full army to the lonely mountain. Professor Tolkien was in the thick of parenting and many other responsibilities when he wrote The Hobbit, and simply didn't have the time to develop all his characters as fully as he would have liked to back then to meet his publisher's deadline. Few writers ever have that luxury, but when the writing is as good as Tolkien's, happily other talented writers like Peter & Co. have the privilege of helping make Middle-earth even deeper and richer. That's something Professor Tolkien himself was wise enough to anticipate in the letter he wrote that his son Christopher chose to use as the preface to The Silmarillion.
+Allacin Morimizu - The part in the book that describes the wood-elves as being "more dangerous and less wise" than the High Elves actually is referring to just that, the wood-elves. It doesn't say that their king is also "more dangerous and less wise". Thranduil doesn't even get mentioned until that long descriptive paragraph is over and then he is simply referred to as "their greatest king". Being one of the Sindar, Thranduil is considerably more wise than any of the Silvan elves - and don't forget that Celeborn (Galadriel's husband) is also one of the Sindar and is named in LOTR by Galadriel as Celeborn the Wise. As for his behaviour toward the dwarves, this is understandable and actually quite justified when you consider that they were caught trespassing in his realm and refused to give any reason why they were there and would not even identify themselves (Thranduil even believed that their actions had been attempted attacks against his people). Even without the background created by Tolkien later on (of Sauron recently sending his servants to search the Anduin which lies near the borders of Mirkwood, the attacks on Gondor, stirrings in Dol Guldur) his actions are realistic and are in fact the standard procedure in any country when someone is caught illegally crossing the borders. Taking his army to the mountain can also be understood when you remember that Tolkien was a soldier himself and knew the importance of ensuring a strong position didn't fall into enemy hands. He believed the dwarves to be dead, Smaug dead and the mountain now lay defenceless and a prime target for enemy forces - he even referred to the situation as "an ill wind that blows no one any good". All things considered, I believe Tolkien wrote the Elvenking in the style of a good, medieval king who was compassionate, kind and even possessed a sense of humour; but also knew the importance of security and keeping his realm safe. PJ and his team completely failed in bringing most of these qualities to the screen.
love the white hair reasoning, it fits well with his desire for the white gems made of pure starlight, as if their bloodline is a descendant of pure starlight
Whenever I see Thranduil, his entire bearing says: "Bitch, I'm fabulous." and it hasn't stopped making me laugh.
hes part of lucius' family from Harry Potter I swear
how is this so true HAHAHAH
So needed this explosive chuckle i just had.
@@emiilysheils5030 correct. he’s actually my uncle
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love how Thranduil canonically wore flower crowns
I know right! Yes
I can imagine him wearing, hyacinths and lavender and him smiling slightly whenever a bee takes a nip of his flowers. And while he passes a cloud of spring reaches your nose.
when u put it that way it is absolutely adorable, amazing and i love it
I expect nothing less from someone this beautiful looking canonically ❤️👄❤️... I mean elfs are known to be quite the flower loving folks too 😂😂
We all love it. 😌😌😌
That moment when you realize Orlando Bloom is actually older than Lee Pace
WHAT
@@MissStehkeks Yes, Orlando Bloom is 44 years old and Lee Pace is 41!
WHAT!!!
@@eleamrsk_1986 Yes Orlando is two years older born in 1977 and Lee in 1979.
@@perpetual61 I'm aware
Thranduil is the most beautiful character design I have ever seen... just amazing
Absolutely agree!!🙏❤
What are the instruments I am hearing around 0:32? Can anyone please tell me! It is different from a Celtic lyre, zither, dulcimer or harp!
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Ya mean lee pace
Yes. Lee Pace is one of the beautiful people. LLAP
So sad that they deleted a lot of the scenes that showed Thranduil's character development.
The whole filmatisation of Hobbit was sad.
Jesus christ its bad, its so bad!!!!!!!
The choreography is bad AND the CGI is bad
Ikr. They could have done away with the pointless Kili Taurial romance and given Thranduil more screentime.
God i love him...
@@PoojaDeshpande84 I thought the first movie was good though
@@vipr1142 no it isnt??? Tf you on
@@PoojaDeshpande84 I wouldnt mind if the movie was more focused on him and Legolas. Even though its technically about Bilbo.
I am also quite sad that when discussing Thranduil's badassery no one mentioned the fact that he's the only Elven ruler that does not possess a ring. That's why he's KING and not some Lord. He's held off the darkness on the Greenwood for so long with only his own resources and no fancy rings that can make magical river borders that sweep off your enemies when you will it.
Wow..I've never thought about that before... his special power is he gives others that withering, superior stare, with his spiky crown and everyone else just falls in line lol
that and i think he is the only race of elf that is pure elf. I could be wrong but the rest of the elves you see like Elrond and them are Half-elven.
Tbh I have a feeling if Sauron ever tried anything funny again, Thranduil would just give him the Look of Doom (TM) and Sauron would shut up and leave.
You are wrong. Elrond is the only half-elf. (Arwen is a three-quarter elf, but somehow counts as half-elf, apparently. Like his two sons, which do not make an appearance in the movies.)
(One could argue that Earendil is somehow in the movie, and he would be a half-elf, too.)
Somebody needs to make a movie about Thranduil's early years, quick while Lee Pace is still young.
Well Thranduil will be in the Amazon show, although how much of him we see depends on what they consider important. After that, the obvious next adaptations would be either a movie/show about the fall of Arnor (which they’ve apparently decided Thranduil was an active part of), or the Children of Húrin. The latter movie would show us young Thranduil, albeit with none of the self-assured sophistication that we see in The Hobbit movies. To connect the audience to the story more easily though, I could perhaps see them also having Thranduil be the narrator: telling the story to a very young Legolas. After all, Legolas in LotR is similar in many ways to Beleg Cúthalion: one of the heroes of The Children of Húrin. His father would have actually known Beleg and Túrin, and perhaps even witnessed much of the story. Certainly in any case, he would know the story well: because it was Daeron, the minstrel of Doriath, who wrote the story.
I would still watch an older Lee Pace, he is so gorgeous and his personality is playful and fun.
I totally agree
They could have casted him in ring of power but latino elf are the norm now
Perhaps the new Amazon series will ignite an inspirational spark in Peter Jackson and we will get this to see this.
Liv Tyler and Lee Pace absolutely embodied what Tolkien described as his elves. They outshine even Cate Blanchett and Orlando Bloom in how they took their place in the story.
Agee, they are beyond ethereal
Betty Ross, Ronan The Accuser, Hela.
from the heavens above ....... exquisite beings.
Sure they were great but saying outshine Cate Blanchett is a massive stretch my guy.
No, they are all equal just different. Legolas and Jate from Lotr still tooo amazing as elves.
I love that it seems like the entire crew refers to legolas as "leggy". it's beautiful
I was reading through the comments on another video and they were calling him “The leg man”
I don’t know which is better
It really is
@@little_leaf_linden yup
What is the lyre like instrument I am hearing @0:18?
Это смешно, при его 176 см😄
When your father is hotter than you and he's single....
Yeeees
I offer myself as his sacrifice.
Is it bad I have dreams about being married to Thranduil? He's so freaking hot and a bad ass lol
Except for the fact that he's not actually single.
Elves don't actually "die" in the sense that humans do. When they are killed in Middle Earth, they are reborn in the Undying Lands beyond the western sea. It's why elves don't take second partners, because there's always the chance of one day being reunited with them, even if they have to wait thousands of years for that to happen.
And here's what this also means. At the beginning of the Fourth Age, when all the elves, including Thranduil, eventually leave Middle Earth by sailing across the western sea, they all get to be reunited with their fallen loved ones who reside in Valinor. So basically, Thranduil gets to be with his wife again, and they can all live there happily until the end of days.
How do I know all of this? Well, my mother is a fan of Tolkiens works. She's also read The Silmarillion, so she's familiar with all the lore behind the elves, and she's told me about it before.
But yeah, I guess my point is... sorry ladies, Thranduil is still a taken man. And a faithful one at that.
Exactly!
We need a reality show of Thranduil just running his kingdom, doing his daily routins and just being fabulous
If they made him today, he'd probably be black and transgendered
We absolutely do, that would be awesome 😂
And name would be thrandthem
I'm so glad they didn't pluck his eyebrow
His eyesbrow and eyes just screams Alpha lol
His eyebrows make him even more powerful and badass
Came here to say this!!!! Would’ve been tragic
Wow LMAO
Like a caterpillar twin
"Those gems were not all your wife left you, my friend. She left you a son. Tell me, which would she have you value more?" WHY DID THEY CUT THAT FROM THE MOVIE!!?!?
Mickey Bear its in the extended edition
Micah Woodward They should have kept it in because it explains Thranduil's motives clearer. In the movies it just seems like he's after gems the dwarves stole from the elves. it makes it personal
Good that I have the extended edition lol
Hobbit Movies suck.
Micah Woodward it’s in the extended version
just think. in 20 years, some fool is going to try to remake this film and all of us will show no mercy to him.
Not even 20 years, Amazon is doing it right now. Fools!
And no mercy shall be shown to YOU. The same as in our real life history. Interesting......
although these movies had great potential i feel they were a diaster, in 20 years we could get a proper hobit film or 2 (if they learn from the mistakes of these ones) also Amazon is making something else (following Aragorn pre-lotr, a young aragorn which will either be very cool or another missed opportunity.)
Matthew Burger i don’t think so. Of course, they weren’t great, but they werent a disaster, especially because there was so much effort and hard work put into it that you can notice the greatness within the movie. The reason no remake/reboot will work is probably because the Hobbit movies are part of the universe of the Lord of the Rings movies. And since those movies then are naturally held together by the same vision of Peter Jackson, its gonna be hard to get those movies made with success. Not to mention copy right problems.
This needs more likes.
Casting Lee Pace was such a good choice. Say what you will about the overall quality of this trilogy, I sure have, but it does have some absolute bullseye moments.
I can always watch the 1st episode of each trilogy....aaaaand I have to admit Thranduil was so badass and hateable char I really like him.
I'll be honest, I love both lotr n hobbit trilogy almost at the same level , I hope a tv show will be so good as well
There now is an official 4K HD version of the movies. So the quality is much better and clear.
@@truehappiness4U Buddy.... It's not about the resolution 😐
I’ll say it. I like the hobbit more than lotr
The way Lee Pace sits down at 0:52 is so graceful and elegant. I didn't think a man could be so majestic.
1:07 the way Thranduil stare at us is so majestic too
1:10
Ballet dancers. I'll leave it at that...
He's so awesome. Are we sure Lee Pace doesn't actually have some elf in him? 🤣
Hey, he"s a freaking. KING....
He did a good job in the role as Ronan also in the Guardians of the Galaxy movie too
I was so disappointed that the real reasons for Thranduil's obsession with the gems never really came through in the movie because of all the cutting they did. Not one mention of his wife in association with the gems came up in the movie. As a result, many people of the audience thought he went to war because he was so materialistic.
yup..me too..i was very disappointed with the deleted scenes about his wife's gems.
+Kalkidan Woldetsadik I didn't really think that he went to war because of being materialistic but because just like the dwarves he wanted to regain something that carried a great importance to him and his people. He does state that and we do see that he really cares for his realm (or at I felt so) so it seemed to me an honorable thing to do even though I failed to see how these gems could be of any benefit to him. But even that reason felt quite, as Thranduil would put it, "prosaic", and besides being so struck with his persona, I really wasn't able to appreciate his motivation. I'd heard that his wife was never mentioned in the books so I obviously couldn't imagine they had intended to give him such a backstory. It was only after I watched this video and realized that something else, far purer and personal, was meant to be the driving force behind his actions, I could finally connect with this character.
me two, I thought it was a really beautiful idea especially Gandalf lines "those gems were not all ahe left you"
tbh his relationship with tauriel pretty much explained it all to me
But he WAS materialistic in the fucking book! Honestly, it should have remained that way, instead of giving him a sob story.
Lee wearing the crown without Thranduil's hair still looks super badass
sassy badass lol
2:12 is the stuff.
@Elleth Andoiel It's such an amazing expert setup, that much is obvious. It's so realistic that I actually nearly thought that the long white hair was also the actors "REAL" hair, in real life. :p
And the same with Legolas actor too. I nearly thought it was also his actual, real hair in real life. :p
It's just because it's so clever again..... such a professional setup with the costumes e.t.c that makes everything look so realistic, and in this way, it has a tendency to fool and surprise the mind. (at least mine)
Another element of surprise I feel, is the use of *"Green Screen."*
You can see it in the background here at "9:30."
I almost forgot that they still used these things in films. Again, it's so amazing.... such a professional setup. I actually thought these actors were ACTUALLY.... REALLY... in these ACTUAL PLACES. :p
I didn't realize before that all/ most of the scenes were acted out in a studio. (hence the green screen)
But the other thing that covers this up so amazingly well, (in a filming studio) is the clever use of artificial lighting and outdoor items like bushes, trees and rocks e.t.c.
It is truly amazing, all these ideas they come up with. So clever indeed. :)
ik I literally went "OH MY GOD"
This might be an unpopular opinion but Thranduil's crown is my favorite thing about Thranduil.
I cannot get over the fact that Lee Pace was helping out in Weta Workshop making costumes. That is SO cool, and yeah it's hilarious that he helped make costumes and swords for dwarfs instead of his own elven kins.
And u would believe and Gollum directed few scene ....😂😂😂😂Peter Jackson play hobbits and a soldier ....just pj thing
"As if there was another force looking after his hair for him"
Perfection 👌❤
Increíble espectacular fantástico hermoso bellos todos soy fanática del señor de los anillos y los jobbiths no hay películas que los pueda superar
Yeah, the crown is a magic item
Es increíble quisiera tener ese cabello
Thranduil doesn't have a Ring of Power, right? Which means he managed to protect his realm with his own power. Gods, I love him more.
Yeah, the Elven Rings are held by Galadriel, Elrond and Gandalf.
NATIK ? And Gandalf got his from Cirdan I believe
@@martinmp19 Yep, and Círdan and Elrond both got theirs from Gil-Galad who was the original owner after Celebrimbor created the three elven rings and gave two of them to him.
Yes but we also need to remember that the Main forces of Sauron were directed towards Gondor, Dale and Lothlorian. So Thranduil didn't exactly face Saurons significant force
@@srinjoyroychoudhury7034 True, but he and his Mirkwood elves fought in assistance to the men of Dale and the Lothlorien elves, in addition to fighting in Mirkwood (and vice versa) so technically he still faced an extremely significant force.
Lee *IS* Thranduil! I can't see anyone else as the official Thranduil actor!
You said it for me ! 👌
+NewDivded yeah..!
+NewDivded If the Hobbit was done in the 80's the only person I could see as Thranduil would have been David Bowie, but only if it had a feel like Labyrinth. But since that never happened, I do agree, Lee is Thranduil, much like how Ian is Gandalf.
+NewDivded Hmmmmm I can see Tom Hiddleston as a great Thranduil
+tonertonki I can see many interest cosplay of Thranduil ;)))
Okay I admit I really adore that Gandalf and Thrundrial moment especially when he says, "Those gems aren't all your wife left you she left you a son." part I was crying of how sweet it is.
Who the hell is thrundrial
Thranduil*
Seeing Lee's real personality and how it contrasts with Thranduil on screen is amazing.
So beautiful, yet masculine at the same time.
yup well said..
+Nbella21 lots of yaoi hentai drawn of him..... you can find them all over the internet...
redcodec thanks for the information.
Barduil 💙
YAAAAS! Like how you do that though bro ... HOW?
they should just make a a trilogy just on Thranduil
David Rivera I agree and how he fought dragons..
I totally want to see that trilogy! It would be SO EPIC! :D
Rocio Flores yeah,especially how he fought in the last alliance where they fought against Sauron!
YEEESSSS!
David Rivera just on the elves I think could carry a couple movies
Lee Pace playing with his sword is like a child that found a stick and now can’t stop playing with it
I've always imagined Thranduil's fighting style to look and feel like flowing water, every slash and slice mowing down the orcs as if he was dancing. I'm glad they didn't follow through with the acrobatic flamboyant version.
*That moment, when you love a boy, but you also fall in love with his father...*
Me!
Yes... that’s it...
Yea.....
Me! I was like Orlando who....
@@LeeLee-nz1kq Orlando who...?
When the cape when over Lee's head, I heard Edna's voice in my head, "NO CAPES!"
Omg XD
Super man movie..grabed by the cape...Edna "no capes"
well, an orc had to help him out. That's just bad form. LOL!
*THRANDUIL:* Your King is blinded! Come over here and get this thing off of me!
😂😭HAHAH so true I'm dead 😭😂
Thranduil was THE BEST part of the whole series, nailed the part. Couldn't have done better.
That moment when he’s holding the sword and saying it’s great, he sounds like an adorable 14 year old boy
What are the instruments I am hearing around 0:32? Can anyone please tell me! It is different from a Celtic lyre, zither, dulcimer or harp!
Lee's reaction to his first time holding Thranduil's sword makes me so friggin' happy.
"Richard, it's f**king GREAT :D"
Aw :3
tHE Sword reminds me of the Scimitars that DRIZZ handles as well !
Ikr omg I just watched that part and omg 😭🥺🥺🥺
@@jessie_4921 The making-of content for The Hobbit has so many nuggets of wholesome content.
I admit that I think I look at them as a sorta comfort thing now. I went through a very emotionally rough period of my life during my senior year of high school, and there were times when I just heckin' stayed home. One of these times, I watched the stuff with my mom, and it was just a really nice temporary distraction from being wracked with anxiety.
Lee Pace was fucking epic as Thanduil. All the hobbit cast was just perfect. I hope if Jackson makes more movies he recast all the actor from the hobbit and LOTR.
I agree, all brilliant!
Christopher Lee :(
So sad, he was so weak looking when he was shooting the hobbit, and he still did it at his age for all the fans. What a great man. I hope he's looking down from Heaven seeing how much the fans wish he was still here so they could say "thank you taking time away from the end days of your life for us, it means the world to us." RIP
Who are talking about?
Christopher Lee in the last comment.
I really wish Thranduil had more fighting sequences in the film. Love him so much!
Yeah we havent seen so far an elven king fight
I just wish he had more scenes of him insulting people and being sassy!
Lee Pace is absolutely gorgeous in this film. He is stunning.
Lee Pace......what a beautiful man. I thought Legolas was hot before but Thranduil.........omg
I know what you mean. No disrespect to Legolas--- he's still gorgeous...but Thranduil burns with an inner fire. ...and his voice, that height, that hair like a waterfall of blonde silk...it's a whole different level of hot.
Gays!!!
tornickin omg! I thought the exact same thing!
LunaWolf29 don’t forget his eyes, omg! I would faint if he looked at me.
Lol I had the biggest crush on Legolas when the trilogy came out(I was in high school). And then when the Hobbit movies came out and Thranduil came onscreen I was like 'Legolas who?'.
Ok but can we admire Lee's enthusiasm for the behind the scenes stuff and weapon/costume making? So cool!
What are the instruments I am hearing around 0:32? Can anyone please tell me! It is different from a Celtic lyre, zither, dulcimer or harp!
Lee was just a closet LARPER who got his dream job, I reckon. 😉
You just have to put it aside that Lee Pace is actually younger than Orlando Bloom. It was a huge compliment to Lee’s performance that he was convincing as being a far older, wiser Elf, but pained by ancient wars that he has a coldness that Legolas doesn’t have.
Lee Pace was so good in this role. In my opinion, arguably one of the top 3 most charismatic and badass in the entire Hobbit/LOTR movies. He really invested himself time and training-wise in the role and it shows.
Why is no one talking about the orc helping thranduil move his cape from his eyes.
omg i was looking for this comment that was kinda cute lmao
9:39
The Orc: This dude is such a fucking disaster, I deadass pity him at this point.
what a top beb!!!!! orcy!!!!!
@@thejoshumitsu Thanks for the timestamp!
Before the Hobbit movies I thought I was past the elf crush stage, because I had a huge crush on Legolas when I was younger.
But oh how wrong I was. That elf crush stage came back and hit me like a train when we got to meet Thranduil.
Here comes the Thranduil Express!
Same with me
I have loved elves since I was a child. I’m almost 60 now.......still love elves.
Thats what! Its not Lee Pace exactly for me, but Thranduil. That makeup, the hair, the piercing eyes. His wife was so fortunate. Rip elven queen
Same
Thranduil is the most beautiful elf ever!! And I like Peter Jackson's elves so much, they look so elegant with long hair and crown, their movements scream that they are elves, ...much better than The ring of power...
Yeah. The trilogy elves are so mystical. Why on earth does the Rings Of Power made them wore rags and fckin short hairs
Don't forget the fact that Lee Pace did a remarkable work, one of the best in all 6 Tolkien's movies by Peter Jackson
What are the instruments I am hearing around 0:32? Can anyone please tell me! It is different from a Celtic lyre, zither, dulcimer or harp!
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I think that everyone who watched this movie wants a Thranduil movie
Agree
I need a solo Thranduil movie plss
+Alice Bellamy There's an idea perhaps with his wife and it shows what really happen to her.
me too
Alice Bellamy shit I just want Thranduil Porn he is so yummy
OMGOSH YES a solo Movie about King Thranduil's life and when Legolas was little perfect
They could do a film about the war in the north. During the war of the third age, Erebor was sieged by the orcs and goblins. In good faith he helped defend the lonely mountain.
Lol I love that everyone pronounces his name differently...Thrandral, Thondril, Tarronduil, Thandruil, Tandrell, Thrandrille
it's Thar (rolling r) AN do eel
Thranduil definitely had the most character development out of any in the Hobbit trilogy.
I'd say Thorin did but Thranduil's definitely a close second
And then they deleted the scenes with the development 😔
@@belladonnacrow5775 was there an extended version though? Which showed the deleted scenes?
@@thegreatunknown8574 possible but I don’t have it in dvd
How cool is Lee. King of the Elves in the morning, weapons fabricator by night.
A king must work to prove his worth
Ops i lv the king
He prob taken some tips from the dwarves on weaponry.
He was so cute when he got his sword
Yup he got very excited
Very cute
Shvaughn ikr
Like a big kid. x3
I know, it was adorable.
Me: watches LOTR and falls hopelessly in love with Legolas and Haldir...
Me: watches The Hobbit and inadvertently falls for Thranduil...
My friend: you might as well fall in love with Galadriel too..
Me: Who says I didn't?
Hey, how can you not fall for an elf? Beauty is literally in their nature. Oh, and don't even get me started on the stuff that I've heard happens in the Silmarillion. Do you have any idea how many humans have fallen for elves just by the sound of their voice? Yeah, apparently that happens a lot too.
Haldir 🤩
laughs in uncontrollable bisexual...
This is Arwen erasure and I won't stand for it. Fall in love with Arwen too.
@@l.hendriks93 I love Arwen too but not the kind of love I feel for Legolas, Thranduil, Galadriel and Haldir...because Arwen is my mom...😂
"Shove that in that crown !" most badass line from an Elven King.
Damn... I'm in love with Thranduil's character, and Lee Pace did a incredible job. I mean... INCREDIBLE. All about Thranduil is so unique and perfect - they way he moves, the way he speaks, those expressions on his face... he did more than acting, he really was Thranduil.
... but now I also see that he's an amazing person in real life, I mean, come on! He actually worked on weapons and armour! How cool is that : D And the way he was excited about his sword, just so heartwarming : D
Yup he got very excited with his sword..
I would Love to learn to make swords and armor like that! Amazing!
Even when he fights he is incredibly handsome
Lee is the personification of an elven lord
Not a mere Lord, he is the King of the Woodland Elves!
He IS the elven lord! hahaha
Right! No added masquery is necessary!
Elves are...by far, the most fascinating, charming and lethal forces of ME. Long live Thranduil!!!
What are the instruments I am hearing around 0:32? Can anyone please tell me! It is different from a Celtic lyre, zither, dulcimer or harp!
I was quite surprised to see Lee Pace is actually so down to earth and he was building props for the movie. He did such an amazing job as Thranduil being so fabulous and so arrogant that it comes as a shock to see how completely different he is. Love his caterpillar eyebrows!!! and definitely this time, the dad is hotter than the son. BTW I was extremely shocked that many many people HATE the addition of Taurel to the movies, since she doesn't exist in the book. They also hate one of my favorite parts of the movie, where Thranduil tells her that it hurt so much because her love was real. I mean, how can you hate that? that's mho.
People hate that scene because they consider the relationship between Tauriel and Killi an impossible travesty so to them, the idea that a character like Thranduil, who had a long-term "legitimate/books accurate" relationship, could relate to Tauriel, who fell for someone she "in the book universe" never would and whom she knew only a few weeks/ a month top, is ridiculous and preposterous. Not my opinion but hey, quite popular.
But, I was also surprised how much many people hate Tauriel because honestly, her inclusion makes a lot of sense, after all, it's not the 90's anymore and unlike the dwarrowdam, she-elves aren't rare so having one as a background character is 100% realistic and one would have thought people like realism when it comes to fictional worlds. Now, I get many were bothered by her relationship with Killi and also the romantic tension with Legolas, I can see that if she'd been just Legolas' friend/Thranduil's protégé she might've been more well-liked but, that still didn't warrant all the hate and people asking for cutting her character completely.
@@baseliacaliga425 I really wish people wouldn't get so bent out of shape by fan fiction ... And the impossible relationship just was well done ... especially if you've seen some of the silliness in the appendices with the dwarf character. It's not canon, but it's not entirely out of the realm of strange things happen in times of change. And that scene between Thranduil and Tauriel after she'd confronted him earlier ... It hurts. And it's perfect.
The people in this thread are absolutely deranged for liking her character and the absurdity of her liking Kili. Not to mention the ridiculousness of her wanting that dwarf over Legolas, a most handsome son of a king who adores her. The actress herself (Evangeline) was pissed off by the love triangle trope. When she accepted the part, she made them promise that they weren’t going to insert a love triangle with her character, yet sure enough the studio execs ended up demanding just that.
Not to mention that it was clearly done to replicate the Aragorn/Eowyn/Arwen love triangle in the LOTR trilogy, but that one was at least well done, because Arwen was willing to give up her immortality for a heroic king that she had known for a long time (Aragorn was raised in Rivendell for some time because he was orphaned), and Aragorn would never even consider giving Eowyn the time of day because his heart was only for Arwen. Moreover, Aragorn loved Arwen so much that he was willing to give her up because he didn’t want her to lose her precious immortality. That’s legit love.
The character of Tauriel is utterly ridiculous, and the writing of her and Kili was beyond cringe, shallow, baseless, and gross. Absolutely terrible writing, and terrible lines.
yes yes please make a movie about Thranduil and his battle with great serpents of the north. That will explain his story about his love. Maybe one single movie will do
First Christopher Tolkien’s corrupt ass needs to die. Then we’ll have a shot.
@@BK-qx6pl you dont know what your saying...
Tihanyi Dani
The Tolkien estate and Warner brothers have sued each other multiple times over breach of contract for the tiniest of reasons pertaining to these movies. Christopher Tolkien is a notorious critic and hater of the LOTR movies.
That old cunt needs to die before any company even has a dream of purchasing the rights to the rest of Tolkien’s books (which include the silmarillion, forgotten tales, children of Hurin, Fall of Gondolin etc.)
B K dont dream of turning middle earth into star wars with yearly movies about every single event. no one needs it it will just make it boring and reoetitive if you want to enjoy the story read the damn books.(oh btw those stories wouldnt exist as rhey are without christopher so stop hating
Yes yes, but make that 3 films, add a love triangle and add in Tom Bombadil but as a proud person of color or we scrap the movie and give it to another director who can't say no to us!
The most beautiful and elegant king on the Tolkien world.
What are the instruments I am hearing around 0:32? Can anyone please tell me! It is different from a Celtic lyre, zither, dulcimer or harp!
oh honey, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
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Самый совершеннийший эльф киновселенной😍
This is what an elf is meant to look like. Looking at you rings of power
We should've gotten more of Thranduil's story in the Hobbit 😭. Such an interesting character.
5:42 Lee Pace's reaction is pure gold for wielding that sword.
If that was me I would jizz a bit.
What is the lyre like instrument I am hearing @0:18?
I, like, honestly feel offended that these amazing scenes were not in the movies. I feel that they give Thranduil so much more depth I suppose. When I first watched the Hobbit a few months ago, I wanted to know why he wanted the necklace so badly and the story behind all of the rings he wore. The answers I had to find on Tumblr should have been in the movies
+Fair Strife agree.
+Fair Strife also Im really curious about his wife
Ugi XXI I assume she fought in a battle at Gundabad since Legolas said that is where she laid forgotten or something along those lines. I guess she was beaten by an orc or maybe she saved Thranduil from a sneak attack. The possibilities are practically limitless
Thats terribly sad. I wonder why Tolkien didnt mention about her in the book.
Ugi XXI I guess he didn't want to stray to far away from the main plot?
Lee Pace is such a beast...
I already loved him since "The Fall", but his Thranduil role is just perfect!
To think it's the ONLY actor in the whole cast who didn't needed a wig or make-up...
He just showed on the set, and radiates charisma, power and glory "as is", all natural.
Thranduil is really 100% accurate of how I imagine an Elf King
I heard in one interview he would love to do more of the Trilogy and play Thranduil again!
really??
U kidding ??!! I want this to be true but dis really to good to be true😃😃
what interview
it was behind scenes an interview, he said he would love to do it again...I don't remember which one, he enjoyed it very much
I'm pretty sure it will happen in a couple of years, I bet what you want they are already planning a new Tolkien movie. As they did with Legolas, they'll make up some new story with Thranduil/Lee Pace 'cause he's got so many fangirls. I just hope they won't come up with some other bs like that Tauriel/Kili thing. And they better hurry up since the guy is not getting younger. 😜
I want the movie about young Thranduil!!! The battle between Morgoth and the elves 🙏 And I really wanna see something with dark kingdom of Angmar! 😮🖤
+Mickey Holm the battles between morgoth and elves was long before angmar
11vivisection11 I know. I just meant like in general, I would really love to see a movie with Angmar ;) Maybe a movie about the northern kingdom also?
The opportunities are endless :D
+Mickey Holm I, too, young Tranduil and his Father and his lovestory
+Mickey Holm oh gods YES! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!
+Mickey Holm does anyone know any info about Zinifer the Dark Elf who is also a character in the game Heroes of Newerth it would be kind of amazing if he'd also joined this movie trilogy
King of the Elves, making weapons&armors for the Dwarves. Classic.
one of the things i liked about five armies is seeing the real Thranduil, this broken Elven King who lost the love of his life and became so obsessed with the white gems that he utterly destroyed not only his own life but his son by pushing him away.
the utter shock when Gandalf mentions to Thranduil that his wife left another gift, gift of a son and ask what Thranduil would cherish most the Elven King gives Gandalf this look of horror almost like saying that how dare you accuse me of not loving my son and that was when Thranduil realized what he had become, he had become just as greedy and arrogant as the dwarves who in the end most were actually just normal people trying to live their lives
I would love to know Thranduil's story. How he met his wife, his story with her and what happened to her. Then, young Legolas with his father. Someone would have to write the story and that's some pretty big shoes to fill! But if done right, it would be wonderful!
Thranduil is the most beautiful being I have ever seen, thats incredible
It’s so cool how lee pace discovered a passion for prop-making while he was working on this film, that must have been so fun for him
This otherworldly gorgeous character is the epitome of Fabulousness, Arrogance, Badassness and Hotness. Very first time I saw Thranduil he had me, and years after keeps making things for me. I had such a damn crush on him, yet hoping one day to get over him, otherwise I might get burnt. Guess what? I never did. Sassy. Alluring. Tasty. Too f*ckin good to be real. Such an inspiration... This perfect creature holds me gracefully in his strong arms... only in my dreams. Too sad I can never have him...
same!! i thought that it was just a passing attraction, years later im like boy was i wrong
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I admit that even I find Thranduil alluring. To hell with The Witchking of Angmar, I'll have my Bitchking of Mirkwood.
Omg 🤣
Can you imagine how captivating the queen of Mirkwood had to have been to have someone like Thranduil so in love with her though....
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Thandruil could play a Targaryen. Also Lee Pace is handsome.
Lee Pace is a God!!
True
This whole time they talked about Rhaegar Targaryen I had this idea of someone like thandruil.. imagine my disappointment 😞😔😪
@@andpoof9305 I wonder if he even auditioned for the Targaryen role..? If only 😣
Agreed, he would make a wonderful Aegon the Conqueror.
5:39 What a great and cute moment. A man reduces to a giggling child the second he gets his hands on a cool sword. I feel like most people would just melt with excitement like he did lol.
Thranduill is so handsome and has a beautiful face and appearance that every time I was watching the film I could notice nothing but his face 😅 Only now I see how many amazing things are made for him such as a sword, a crown, costume design etc. That's really a great work 👍
Fair reminder that after the war with the Ring, Thranduil renamed Mirkwood to something like Forest of Green Leaves. Legolas' name means Greenleaf.
if that's not father-son pride I don't know what is.
Aesthetically Emotional Eyrn Lasgalen. Wood of greenleaves. It's one of my favorite things that I have ever heard and read concerning LOTR and the hobbit
I actually thought that it was called Greenwood first and then the sickness came in and people in middle earth started to call it mirkwood and the elves just went with but idk. i haven’t watched it in ages.
@@paris-bf3wn that's info from the book iirc
They both have the last name GreenLeaf
Ughhhhh ikr
Thranduil is so beautiful , so swift, always composed ahhh
denise leong yup he acts so kingly
denise leong yup
denise leong nothing more attractive the a.calm and composed person. losing their shit
Yep, he was a believable elven-king.
What is the lyre like instrument I am hearing @0:18?
The scene where Thranduil/Lee stands with the sword pointed downward and slightly backward to his right almost made me weep. Incredible beautiful. I think Peter Jackson might consider putting together an extended extended version of The Hobbit and LOTR. We can't get enough of these images. Some are truly breathtaking. Thanks for sharing your remarkable insights.
A character who seems so elegant with a cold personality that changes beautifully throughout the story. Love it
Lee peace is perfect for this role. And Thranduil is my favorite character in The Hobbit. I don't know why, but i just like his character so much.
whidi arto same here I want to read the hobbit and LOTR but my problem is I am more interested in the side characters than the main ones hahaha we just need separate books for the elves
The extended edition shouldn't have omitted some of this scenes, it would've made the viewer have a better understanding of Thranduil. Thumbs up for this amazing clips!
When the Elves didn't just look like regular guys with pointy ears.
I know people have their issues with the movie but you cant dent Lee Pace was PERFECT. Martin Freeman was PERFECT and clearly a lot of love went into these films despite it being rushed and not handled as greatly as it could have been.
12:05 This scene so should've been in the movie! Wtw were they thinking leaving it out?!
It revealed to people a lot about Thranduil, why he acted the way he did and is the way he is.
His character development is the best. How he changes a lot but yet is still the same intimidating, fabulous king from before.
He, like Loki, needs a movie all to himself.
Ave Estrella that scene is sad and emotional 😭
I have a crush on both.... ;_;
Loki is getting a series next year and it's gonna be awesome!!
@@Celestiiad same
@@MsBluebot REALLY?! :D
I would love to see the Thranduil in love with his beloved wife. The bond, the interaction, the joy.
Now this is an elf. Not the Rings of Power elves.
12:05-12:18... They cut the best part out. This part adds more meaning to his existence, he is so much more than just a king. Now I feel the movie is incomplete💕💖
he looks so beautiful and elegant and graceful and majestic it's almost making me cry
You are absolutely right
What are the instruments I am hearing around 0:32? Can anyone please tell me! It is different from a Celtic lyre, zither, dulcimer or harp!
Such a badass character. They couldn’t have picked a better actor to play that part.😊
What are the instruments I am hearing around 0:32? Can anyone please tell me! It is different from a Celtic lyre, zither, dulcimer or harp!
This is beautiful. The writer was a woman, which is fantastic, and she was a nerd. She understood the story, and everything she added to the story was in-character and well thought out. She didn't despise the world like the writers of ROP did, or go on an ego trip, trying to insert herself into the story. She respected it. This is art
even though she looked over that fact that Aragon would have only been 10, yep totally "understood" the story among all the other crap these shitty movies had in it ruclips.net/video/B5Q-TjOsU3E/видео.html
well thauriel character was a bit useless tho, there was no need of adding her and this cringe love story
I love that they left his dark eyebrows. Made his eyes so much more beautiful and compelling against the blond hair and fair skin. Really loved Lee Pace's portrayal of thranduil.
Lee Pace is fucking GORGEOUS............ Not handsome; GORGEOUS.......... That fits the bill of an elf perfectly !! Also MAN CRUSH.
Thranduil somehow reminds me of Lucius Malfoy
YES
Its the bleach blond locks for sure
YESSS
At the second part
Eww no...
I love Lee Pace’s interest in everything behind the scenes and how he wanted to be a part of it. He loved every aspect of the film truly and completely
We need a movie just about the elves.
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9:40 *Edna Mode (the Incredibles) voice* "NO CAPES"
me too
Lol Ikr? Capes are such a pain! I can't imagine trying to dual-wield swords with a cape and it NOT getting in the way.
Actually as a sword enthusiast, dual wielding is not practical. This is my time to show how fun I am at parties. It looks cool but you are better with just one sword. Sword and shield is the best combination for sword fighting. The only way dual wielding is practical is if you have a sword and a dagger, you use your dagger to parry and your sword to riposte. Longer than a dagger it gets in your way. Capes or cloaks are also good if you know how to use them. You grab your cloak with your off hand and try to catch your opponent with it. If you have your cloak just hanging without grabbing it then it can get on your way. Here is an example of cloak being used in combat /watch?v=EOJW-F2BKZo
farrex0 he's good with dual wielding sword..but I think it would be better without the cape
Sam Sanderson hahahaha I love Edna 😂
Good character development, consistent with Tolkien's vision. I think the good professor would like how Thranduil's character was fleshed out by this gifted team.
+Allacin Morimizu
IDK, This one was more of an asshole.
But I think that's the point: he WAS arrogant and self absorbed, BUT he changed for the better. I find that encouraging. :)
Possibly, but in the book he literally says: "Long will I tarry ere I begin this war for gold!"
Basicly he was much more likeable and wise in the books. So would Tolkien have liked it? No clue. I however, do like his character quite alot.
Agreed: definitely more likable and wise in the book, however the book itself says this king and his people "were more dangerous and less wise" than the High Elves--a line helpfully echoed by Beorn in the Hobbit 1 movie. The elven king's behavior toward the dwarves belied much of his fair speech, and he did choose to bring a full army to the lonely mountain. Professor Tolkien was in the thick of parenting and many other responsibilities when he wrote The Hobbit, and simply didn't have the time to develop all his characters as fully as he would have liked to back then to meet his publisher's deadline. Few writers ever have that luxury, but when the writing is as good as Tolkien's, happily other talented writers like Peter & Co. have the privilege of helping make Middle-earth even deeper and richer. That's something Professor Tolkien himself was wise enough to anticipate in the letter he wrote that his son Christopher chose to use as the preface to The Silmarillion.
+Allacin Morimizu - The part in the book that describes the wood-elves as being "more dangerous and less wise" than the High Elves actually is referring to just that, the wood-elves. It doesn't say that their king is also "more dangerous and less wise". Thranduil doesn't even get mentioned until that long descriptive paragraph is over and then he is simply referred to as "their greatest king". Being one of the Sindar, Thranduil is considerably more wise than any of the Silvan elves - and don't forget that Celeborn (Galadriel's husband) is also one of the Sindar and is named in LOTR by Galadriel as Celeborn the Wise.
As for his behaviour toward the dwarves, this is understandable and actually quite justified when you consider that they were caught trespassing in his realm and refused to give any reason why they were there and would not even identify themselves (Thranduil even believed that their actions had been attempted attacks against his people). Even without the background created by Tolkien later on (of Sauron recently sending his servants to search the Anduin which lies near the borders of Mirkwood, the attacks on Gondor, stirrings in Dol Guldur) his actions are realistic and are in fact the standard procedure in any country when someone is caught illegally crossing the borders.
Taking his army to the mountain can also be understood when you remember that Tolkien was a soldier himself and knew the importance of ensuring a strong position didn't fall into enemy hands. He believed the dwarves to be dead, Smaug dead and the mountain now lay defenceless and a prime target for enemy forces - he even referred to the situation as "an ill wind that blows no one any good".
All things considered, I believe Tolkien wrote the Elvenking in the style of a good, medieval king who was compassionate, kind and even possessed a sense of humour; but also knew the importance of security and keeping his realm safe. PJ and his team completely failed in bringing most of these qualities to the screen.
love the white hair reasoning, it fits well with his desire for the white gems made of pure starlight, as if their bloodline is a descendant of pure starlight
The care that Peter and his team put into these movies was awesome. Amazon did nothing like this.