Winegard Vs Channel Master Antenna Test. See info section for Winegard modification.
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In this video I compared my Wingard HD7694P antenna to my Channel Masters Advantag 45 antenna just to see which one performed the best. The signal strength on these antennas were almost identical, except for channel 5 which operates on 79 Mhz. Since Winegard doesn't recommend this antenna for the VHF Low band my results were not surprising, But I have since discovered a simple modification for the winegard antenna which boosted its range on channel 5. You can see it in this video. • Winegard TV Antenna Mo...
Both of these antennas had a listed range of 45 miles, but their real range is based on several factors such as the transmitters power and the transmitter location.. One important thing to note about the TV antennas is the manufactures will often list what frequencies their antennas do the best at, and they may offer other antennas that do better at specific frequencies. A good example is the channel master advantage 45 antenna Vs the channel master digital advantage 45, These Two antennas are said to have a 45 mile range, but the one I demonstrated in this video performs far better on channel 5 than the digital advantage 45.
I think a good rule of thumb is: If you want to pickup Low-VHF signals, you need an antenna with LONG elements. Channel 2 (about 57Mhz) needs to be about 100" wide! It's pretty clear just looking at those antennas that the wide one (ChannelMaster) is going to mop the floor with the others in the Lo-VHF (Ch 2-6) range.
Grant, I always like your videos fella. They are informative, to the point and never to long. Job well done Sir. Look forward to seeing morer.
Thanks you. To be fair to Winegard I should have mentioned that the Winegard antenna isn't really made for channel 5.
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Nice work Grant.
channel 5 is below the range of the wineguard.. in some areas with repacked frequencies.. those low vhf are no longer available, so not necessary for many urban areas.
Thanks ! It appears that the Winegard might be built better than the Channel Master. Which would better withstand harsh winters in Central Indiana? And, have you had any problems with the plug-in balun cartridge on the Winegard antennas? '73 Bob
The naming is so similar that it can be confusing. I would like to say I have been researching these antennas. I have learned that the Digital Advantage 45 (CM-2016) is for UHF and only high VHF channels. The Advantage 45 (CM-3016) is for UHF, high VHF and also for low VHF channels. Physically the Advantage 45 (CM-3016) has more VHF elements and is indeed a larger antenna than its baby brother the Digital Advantage 45 (CM-2016).
For sure. Were it not for Channel 5 VHF I could have gone with either one.
Thanks for the info videos on over the air tv.
Many people are going back to it.
Is there anyway to get around searching for channels
every time I move the antenna with the rotor.
Channel scans take so long! Thanks
The Winegard isn't even designed to receive the Low Band VHF Channels so that's why it didn't pickup your channel broadasting RF Channel 5.
Yes I understand about channel 5. That's wny I did this modification.
Well, you should have said the Winegaurd Model wasn't designed to receive Low VHF Channels 2-6. Many TV Markets today don't have Stations broadcasting on these channels. Thank you for your video.
@@mktwatcher Yes I should have mentioned the antenna is not designed for VHF 5. I've since learned a simple modification to the winegard antenna which makes it work much better on channell VHF 5. ruclips.net/video/9AJOafHJ8fI/видео.html
Very interesting. Will you be doing a Video regarding that mod? I had though that you could extend at least one of the active elements so you would have one element become a dipole antenna that would resonate on the Low V Frequencies.
@@mktwatcher All I did was add 14 inches of wire to each of the Two elements, and I saw no degredation to the other chennels by doing this, The winegard HD7694P has been one of my favorite antennas for this area other than the problem it's had getting channel 5, so this saves me from having to buy a more expensive antenna. Prior to discovering this modification I used the Channel Master advantage 45 which is another good antenna.
Great Video!
The channel master has longer elements made for low vhf where as the winegard looks like the elements are cut for higher vhf
Yes your correct. Channel masters has a couple different antennas that appear very similar, but one of them is designed to do better on VHF low than the other. I should have compared that one in my test as well.
@@GrantsPassTVRepair I have learned that the Digital Advantage 45 (CM-2016) is for UHF and only high VHF channels. The Advantage 45 (CM-3016) is for UHF, high VHF and also for low VHF channels. Physically the Advantage 45 (CM-3016) has more VHF elements and is indeed a larger antenna than its baby brother the Digital Advantage 45 (CM-2016).
@@jimownby3234 Yes . I only go with the Advantage 45 now. I wish I had caught that sooner.
Question, Back when I was a kid TVs had a UHF and VHF channel selector. What do these new HD TVs use?
well, the HDTV's have one ant connection so you will need to find an antenna that does both. i would go to antennaweb.org and enter in your address and it should tell you what antenna to buy.
The tv just automatically switches in between the frequency's .
Most TV's switch between the frequencies electronically based on the firmware and hardware. Thats the only difference.
In the older TV's you are talking about with the manual tuner is set to the frequency indicted by the channel it's set on...Modern Tv's use digital tuning which is known as a PLL or Phase Lock Loop circuit...A bit more involved than that, but called an encoder...
Hello just moved to Glendale Oregon from rogue River looking at the cm pro with amp and the winegard Platinum series that features VHF low high and uhf what are your thoughts and thank you for the video
If you live in Glendale Oregon, the only TV signals you can pick up are channel 5, 8, and 12 plus their sub-channels which come from the King Mountain transmitter, and you probably need to point your antenna 93 degrees for best reception if you live near the center of Glendale.. I would suggest you first try a TV antenna without an amplifier to see if an amplifier is necessary. A good antenna for Glendale would probably be the channel masters "Advantage 45" although I'd be curious to try the smaller RCA ANT705E antenna, to see if you can get away with a much smaller antenna. I've only done one antenna in Glendale, and I know it's not the best location of TV reception, but they have good internet speeds through fiber optics in Glendale. Here is one I did in Glendale a few years ago. ruclips.net/video/7HAPt5dH4IE/видео.html
Thanks
Thanks for your videos, My question is where do I find the over-the-air frequency's for my area?
I live in Escondido, Ca. Thanks Carl
There are some online sites that may have this info such as tvfool.com, but sometimes their info isn't up to date. In my case I have a meter that tells me the frequency, but you can also call the TV stations to get this information.
@@GrantsPassTVRepair Thanks for the info. Carl
Can't read your comparison chart numbers on the high VHF range. Too bad. Thanks for trying.
Sorry about that. The main difference was channel 5 which is in the VHF low band. In all fairness to Channel Masters they don't suggest this antenna for the low VHF bands.
I could not see your data well...could you post it?
The winegard 7694p is not designed for vhf lo frequencies such as 79 so that's no surprise. But im interested in how the 2 compared at other vhf hi and uhf frequencies.
On the UHF frequencies the Two antennas had almost identical numbers, but on the lower VHF frequencies such as 79 Mhz the signal went from zero meaning no readable signal at all with the Winegard antenna, and about 50 percent with the Channel Masters antenna. On 183 Mhz there was also an improvement of about 10- s units using the Channel Masters antenna.
@@GrantsPassTVRepair interesting..on paper the channel master is listed as less gain in the 183 mhz range.. I apologize ..i went to channel masters site and it is indeed the advantage 45..not to be confused with their digital advantage 45
@@robm7076 When I first started doing antennas I made the mistake of buying the digital advantage 45 antennas, not realizing they didn't do well on VHF Low, so now I stick with the advantage 45. I noticed they just raised their prices on this antenna to 100 bucks.
if UHF is your gain then go with Winegard hd7694 but Channel Master cm3016 us better for VHF Winegard is 1/2 the price
I've experimented with both antennas, and the only signal difference I've noticed around here was on channel 5, but with the modification I did to the winegard antenna they should be about equal. ruclips.net/video/9AJOafHJ8fI/видео.html
I had zero luck with the bowtie antenna!
What frequency are the TV station transmitters in your area? If they are on the VHF frequencies a Bow Tie antenna is a poor choice.
Some are on VHF and most are UHF, I have several Stealth Hawk antennas that work very well. I bought it just to see how it worked and was not surprised. Another clunker is the ones that comes with the built in rotor!
@@williamzoom I'm not to impressed with the antennas that have the built in rotors. The would be fine for UHF if they lasted a while, but many of them will go bad in a short time.
Wineguard uses that stupid plastic balun connector and after time it gets corroded and the connector pushes pins to connect. Horrible. I had one and after a year the whole connector fell off. The antenna was up 40 feet and had to be fixed. I now buy channel master.
I know what you mean. I always glue the plastic balun after snapping it to the antenna.
That looks channel master advantage 60..not 45.
All I know is the box it came in said Advantage 45, so I hope I got it right.
Rob M you might be thinking about the Digital Advantage 45 it is different than the advantage.
@@99telskidSnake You are correct, the Digital Advantage 45 (CM-2016) is for UHF and only high VHF channels. The Advantage 45 (CM-3016) is for UHF, high VHF and also for low VHF channels. Physically the Advantage 45 (CM-3016) has more VHF elements and is indeed a larger antenna than its baby brother the Digital Advantage 45 (CM-2016).