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"Jinnah was disgusted with losing matters in Sindh."
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- Опубликовано: 11 дек 2010
- Ram Jethmalani said that Sindh, particularly Karachi, had some great lawyers. "If they had been practising in Delhi or Bombay, would have probably been at the top."
He spoke about how Jinnah came thrice to Sindh after being engaged in some matters, and lost all three cases. "When Jinnah qualified for the Bar, he came to Karachi to practice. Jinnah belonged to the community of Khojas who were rich merchants and he expected to have a readymade clientele in Karachi. He went to a firm of Hindu lawyers called Harichandra and Co. Old Harichandra had interviewed him and once he said that he was perfectly qualified to practice, they had to settle the terms. Jinnah wanted hundred rupees, but the old Hindu miser was unwilling to go above seventy-five. I have always said, even in public, that Jinnah was not the cause of India's partition, but that old Hindu miser."
Jinnah was disgusted with losing matters in Sindh. Khan Bahadur Khuro, a powerful Muslim League leader, had been accused of murder. When he approached Jinnah to represent him, Jinnah declined, perhaps because he realised he was never going to win a case in Sindh.
Ram Jethmalani also spoke about Sindh being the cradle of Sufism, the gentlest form of Islam. He said that it was synonymous with the Kashmiriyat of Kashmir. Shah Abdul Latif, one of the greatest poets, was a product of Sindh. "We had developed a great synthesis between the two communities, that as a Hindu youngster, I would get my new clothes on Id and Muslin youngsters would get their clothes on Deepavali. Even when Partition had happened, and lakhs of people were getting killed, the Sindhi Muslim never killed a single Hindu. "
"Speaking for myself, for the sake of safety, I had brought my family to Bombay, but I had gone back to Sindh and continued my practice in the hope that things would become normal. I stayed till February 1948 and by that time a large number of Muslims had come from Bihar and other places to Sindh and that was the cause of great tension because they wanted Hindu properties.
"In February, when I was arguing a case in the Magistrate's court, my Pathan driver came in and said that the locality where I was living was in danger. I found on the way back that nobody was being hurt physically, but preparations had been made to rob all the property, to create fear and force Hindus to migrate. That is exactly what happened."
Ram Jethmalani's partner during his practice in Karachi was a secular Muslim gentleman and a great scholar - A K Brohi, who later piloted the first Constitution of Pakistan. "Seeing the incidents of February 1948, he said that he could no longer bear the responsibility of my safety. Then I left and settled down in Bombay and started practice." He said that there was a good bit of opposition but his attitude today was that he owed everything to the people of India.
at the age of 80 almost every person speaks truth and only truth. He provided great insight. Thanks for sharing his views.
A Legend Sindhi at the age of 80 still love his Sindh.
We are Sindh, we love Sindh more than our own mothers.
Sindhis love you Great Shri Ram Jethmalani ji ❤️❤️❤️
Whatever Ramjeth Malani says is true to my knowledge. Whatever properties and businesses of Sindhi Hindus in Hyderabad and Karachi were captured and occupied by migrants (Mohajirs) from present day Hindustan, which was condemned by Mr. Jinnah and that was why Mr. Jinnah disappointed from Prime MInister Liaqat Ali.
You are absolutely mad, my entire family migrated from eastern UP to Karachi and to my knowledge not a single Mouhajir captured any property of Hindu...
iam also a muhajir and yes some of the claims of occupying hindus properties may be right but the fact that we were also thrown out of our houses by hindus india should also be considered..
whats done is done we (mohajir and sindhis ) should now try to forget our bitter past and not listen to any parties and make a better future together .peace
@@MrTazsid waha 😍 don't vote for mqm.dont support altaf hussain
@@MrTazsid bro hindus migrated to India
@@MrTazsid you weren't thrown out, you chose to migrate!
He passed away today, 8th of September 2019, and I just came back to watch this amazing interview. RIP, Legend.
Accept my condolence from Sindh Karachi, i never knew him before but when i came to know he was from Sindh i followed his entire biography.
so sorry to hear this. good people r leavi g this world. rip0
@Bm S regardless of aik hindu kitna hee zalim aur gunnah gar ho usko shanti mil jaygi ??
Rip
Even today sindh is centre of religious tolerance,,, whenever we meet our Hindu friends we greet them RAm Ram slogan,,,and they reply with assalam o alaikum,,,
sindhis shold get their home land back so Kashmiri hindus. he lost his homeland.
just like punjab whose freedom movement u crushed brutally !!!
PS sindhis are happy to be a part of pakistan !!!!!
@@omerashraf9357 shup up bastard we know ...u suppress their language
@@benefactor4309 they are free to speak their language OKAY !!!!!! just like my parents and servants who always chat in Punjabi and suraiki !!!!!!!! someone has been listening to a lot of propaganda lately .
@@omerashraf9357 shut up no body talks in Punjabi ki Punjab assembly
@@benefactor4309u been there and so what ???? it does not mean that they are oppressed
How nice to hear this dialogue between sindhi hindu and sindhi muslims.When it comes to language that is the only uniting force,not religion.We have problem with Muhagirs who want to back stab Sindhis by claiming Karachi as Muhagir colony.They will never succeed in this.Jai SINDH. Parveen,Houston,Tx,USA.
+PARVEEN SADIQ brother there is always uniting forces around us to unite with one and the all. Just one is required to find out and recognise those uniting forces. As you found language is uniting force between Sindhis, so on try to find out uniting forces with Muhagirs too, they left every thing they owned and came to you to get united with you in the name of religion. use whatever mean you get to unite with every one around and ignore everything which can separate you from others.
In my 25 years of existence i never thought planned or conspired to back stab sindh in any way whatsoever i pay taxes and utility bills and still live here in this corruption ridden outrageously divided country of ours but still got the relevence to say Pakistan Zindabad
The solution to this is giving Muhajirs a seperate province or place where they can form a govt.
This happens in India all the time.
New provinces are carved out as per the aspirations of the people.
In a real democracy, these things are automatically taken care of.
Muslims are third grade citizen in india..but in pakistan,you people are distributed in ethenic groups.tell me do you see any states in the world created on language basis.not even india.
Racism is man's gravest threat to man - the maximum of hatred for a minimum of reason. Jai Pakistan !
It is such a pleasure to watch Ram Jethmalani speak. This is the first time I heard about the details of how and why he and his family migrated. His honesty, integrity, legal acumen and contribution to Indian public life are legendary. We are fortunate to still have him active in public life. I didn't realize that he was in a contemporary of MA Jinnah in any way. I would love to find out if he wrote any memoirs. BTW MA Jinnah was one of the most successful lawyers in the Bombay bar. I didn't know he had attempted to start his career in Karachi.
At the same, same thing happened opposite side of border. Why you Indian hindu blame one party only.
Dada thanks for leaving this for us
He is a typical secularist
He was a living history book... Dont read history books of India nor Pakistan, just listen to these kind of old people talk.
A conscience keeper who collected the names of people who deposited in Swiss bank. He was good in many aspects.
we are missing great honest Sindhi Hindu community
We already have lot of population . We don't need any more
off course you are, you killed them
2:37 Khan 4:00 Shah abudul Latif
Love from Sindhi people of Sindh to Ram Jethmalani
Appreciated great personality
Love you the legend and identity of our Sindh
I am from Karachi,he was right and thorough in his saying except he missed one thing....In west Pakistan (Karachi), mostly Muslims immigrated from UP/CP and other provinces of India while Muslims from Bihar's mostly chose to immigrate to E.Pakistan (Dacca) due to proximity. Violence was just reactions in a charged atmosphere at that time and raging all over the India /Pak unfortunately. ...Madness...
Who created the mess?
@@MrTMrT007 Majority and that time's hindu leaders.
Even today those hindus shifting to India cry and shiver on the memories of Pakistan they can't have windows in their houses in fear of someone peeping inside and would take away the girls 😬😬🕉🕉🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏
@@kaaaah2003 Hindu and Muslim leaders to be precise.
@@kaaaah2003 it was jinnah
People residing in Balochistan and Sind area never wanted Pakistan and pakhtoonistan area were under the control of Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan and were derisively called CONGRESSWALAS because they were congress followers!.Only Muslims in United provinces,Punjab,Bihar and Bengal areas supported Jinna!.Partition was forced upon unwilling people due to whims of the villains Jinnah and Gandhi!.
There were popular public elections in Chief Commissioner's Province of Balochistan and Sindh Provincial Assembly.
Mr jinnah was the greatest leader ever in the history remember he created a new country for the poor and oppressed people of the subcontinent and know look at lynchistan India…namard modi the butcher of gujrat
He is 100%ryt.no one hindu was killed by sindhi muslim community.
0:44 “the great mr Jinnah” and I closed this video.
yeah because you're habitual of calling a crook disguised as a saint your leader, so what else could be expected from u? for you a womanizer and a racist can be great only!
It is a taunt
Pakistan was a blunder.Created by British as they left and they knew the ppl vry well.two countries means infinite clashes btwn dz countries fr ages n ages n dey jst sit n laugh abt der creation
+Syed Siddharth Hassan created by bitish becuase muslim wanted it. they never forced anyone but yes they did supported muslim league members and mullahs.
blaming them for the real cause is of no use. there was hindu hate and we saw the same when hindus genocide took place in pakistan resulting in all hindus and sikhs dead.
now pakistan is no more indian it is a muslim naion and we don't want any of them. just stay in you country and dont bother others
no dear jinnah was not in muslim league,the attitude on then congress compel him to join muslim leauge..kindly go and read history
Syed Siddharth Hassan
u an india muslim ????????
It was planned to have a buffer state between India and Soviet Union which would be friendly to British , interest, this was to prevent communism from spreading into South Asia , so Pakistan was hatched in 1933 - as an Islamist concept to counter communist spread
This Syed is a joker. You can't call the creation of a nation, with so many sactifices, a blunder!!.
This guy did not speak about Raja Dahir who fought fiercely against Arabi invaders but he is taking proud is speaking about the overhyped sufism. What a shame!
LAWYER UNDERSTANDS ONLY BUSINESS AND MONEY LIKE JINNAH AND JETHMALANI. NO WONDER HE APPOINTED BY DAWOOD IBRAHIM KASKAR. HOW CONVENIENTLY HE FORGETS GREAST SINDH KING RAJA DAHIR SEN.
Hence proved failed lawyer jinnah
Failed doctor Zakir naik
There's always a pattern
and failed saint gandhi, no? oh i m sorry, he was only a crook not a saint.
Human Bng - please stop your hate. Peace!.
@@qurratulainzehra8760any way you are right.
We Hindus do not consider Mr Gandhi as a Saint..
He may be a Saint to you Muslim Islamic fanatics but not for us...
This shameless man took the cases of gangsters, criminals and corrupt politicians and now he is saying I owe everything to people of India.
Height of Hypocrisy.
True! he was really a piece of rotten faeces! he should have been shipped to pakistan where I am sure couldn't have survived a day!Finally some burden off the mother earth,I
Everybody deserves a law counsel. How can you decide they were criminals even before conviction. If you yourself declare them as criminals why are courts for. You too are shameless and senseless.
Know the basic of modern law and judiciary. You are not living in Akbar or ashoka kingdoms
RAVI TEJA Because the criminals who he represented were convicted in courts before for other criminal cases.
When court convicts someone , I can call him criminal. Jethmalani took their cases just for the sake money.
@@RAVITEJA-ge8zo I agree, but the people who are not belongs to this profession, wouldn't get this, so there is no point to make them understand... 🙏🙏🙏💙💙💙
it is his professional duty to defend even the worst of criminals ..just like a doctor to even save the murderer ..and Ram did it brilliantly
Thanks for sharing this beautiful and surprising historical house
Beautiful conversation
He speaks like my baba
The day Vajpayee sacked him from ministry I lost all the respect I had for Mr Vajpayee
Lawyers role is overrated in criminal cases atleast.decisions depend on evidence.
*Lawyers
@@sattikrout3480 thanks.
It is not, it is the lawyers who influence the evidences to be admitted in court
@@sarcasticcf3553 well i m a public prosecutor for 12 years daily conducted and scrutinized at least 50 cases daily including murder, rape, norcotics and all kinds of criminal cases. I know from my vast experience. Role of investigation officer and witnesses is most important.
@@sibghatmansoor5125 I am not denying that but role of lawyers cannot be diminished either
erol miranda... you are christian for sure.. no ways a sindhi... i am a sindhi hindu from sydney with my family in karachi, my village ghotki.. and my relatives in bombay... i know of the catholics in bombay wid names like you.. you dont have a sindhi mum or dad.. sindhis in mumbai look down upon u... sindhi hindus in karachi like myself don need your badge. i m frm a very well known sindhi hindu family worldwide. u might be shocked to knw who i m!
Aakash Tolani ada tawan sacho sindhi ayo ain jadhen tain tahan jhera sindhi ahin asan fakhur mahsos kandha ahin jeay sindhu desh and I'm from khairpur mirs Sindh
we have so many sindhu hindu wholesale business man still doing there business in Joria bazar...
great sir, Allah khush rakhy awhan khy
Now theres no point to the sindhi-muhajir conflict to be honest because sindhis are getting married to urdu speaking people nowadays, very common.
Shivay Nomoho Nomo Shivay Har Har Mahadev. Dr Rmdebnath
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gentle sufism also follows the same book .
Subtitles have many wrong spellings
Great person
If Pakistan is great country. You will live in Indian soils
'Sufi ism is the gentlest form of Islam, it is Like the Kashmiriyat of Kashmir...Sufi poets were better than Tagore and Shakespeare combined'- Ram Jethmalani. Proof that a legal luminary may well be a noob and naive about things not related to his professional speciality. And even in the law- he was only famous for representing ultra rich crook clients, who in a near lawless subcontinent could get witnesses disappeared and purchased on a whim. He was street smart and a hustler - not much more.
Work required for them..
He says tottaly true as Sain Gm syed said
MTFR
muslim guy but a great scholar............"but" explains everything about muslims
Required act.. Independence
I am from sindh, there are so many Hindus living here peacefully,
But there are reports that they were forcefully marriged by muslims what u say for them
@@bhavikkk10 who told you, is Kareena Kapur married with Saif Ali Khan forcefully , nargis was a Muslim , mother of Sanjy dutt she married with Sunil dutt, we never said that was forcefully,
@@bhavikkk10 there are so many muslim girls who are forcefully married too. Bhai un logn se ham khud hi tang hen to socho hindu ko kese chorengy
@@asadaliopp7225 Are bringing up irrelevant examples your best defense?
These marriages are elite marriages that have happened in INDIA.
The point is made about forceful marriages in Sindh.
@@asadaliopp7225Then who is mitthu miya that mo**erf***er is converting hindus openly how come reports are coming on how 1000+ hindu girls are getting converted every year for there marriages with tharki old people by pagal mullas there, open street violance on Hindus and sikhs, demolition of temples are happening there so shut the f**k up kuch theek nhi hai haiwaan ho saare ke saare....
so great sindh that he should leave maharashtra for great sindh
prasanna rane why? You lack the brains to understand that he’s remembering a place from 70-80 years ago. What did you jokers do for Maharashtra anyway?
He was born in akhand bharat. Will u say that line ko kashmiri hindu if he loves kashmir
He lived in delhi😅
@@sanjayb0886 malani want to say that v should take our Sindh back align with India coz it was part of india
@@salahshah3858 are you sindhi ?
the prophet (pbuh) said respect the minority.the jews were the minority, they cheated on the prophet and were thus slayed. the sindhi hindus were also a part of the first isamic empire but never cheated the muslim empire till today. we were called deewan- i.e. the knowledgeable. why would you call us dirty? our parents told us that sindhi muslims have aways respected us and sindhi muslim frends of mine were told that hindus are real sindhis of sindh. wot are u on abt?
we respect all languages as well as religions..karachi pakistan..
@@imtiazhussain9570 lol.. Jokers... Visit www.thereligionofpeace.com 35000 Jihadi attacks since 911 and counting............
Love you❤️..Hope you still have the same feelings after all these years.
@@knowledgeispowersquare be a shit and get shit too, being a Sindhi Muslim i always had a Hindu supervisor and manager at my workplace in karachi yet to date.
Love from Sindh brother,
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The days have gone.... And ideology beggined.... Sorry tosay
Quaid e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah Great Leader and The Father of the Nation Quaid e Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah ZINDABAAD
If Indians and Pakistani s r intelligent enuf.dey shud unite as one country
Syed Siddharth Hassan I wish that day comes.
+Syed Siddharth Hassan they may not unite as one country, but they can certainly live in peace and harmony as good neighbors
+Syed Siddharth Hassan i wish that day never come....bcoz most Muslim majority countries have civil war or detector ship. i dont want that happen to india....
two countries ans two religons i-e hindu/muslim pakistan/india cannot become good neighbours how can they work good as one nation? 90% of the people of india and Pakistan dont even know the real reason of partition you guys werent even born back then so how can you say whether this was a good choice or a bad one? ask your grandfathers the times before partition if they were present and as adults anyways let me tell u the reason of partition
muslim/hindu religious riots, wars, conflicts
the theory was a two nation theory where hindus were allowed to live their way and muslims were allowed to live their way making of pakistan and india is the best solution for both the Hindus and the muslims PERIOD
its not illogical its completely logical
in india muslims are a minority in india muslims are overpowered by hindus and its not only about the population it has always been religious the muslims living in india are only living there because they were born their same goes for hindus of pakistan..
Wat...
Y is he calling Jinnah great
So it was the people from Bihar who were responsible but not the people living there hehehehe what a big joke. So it was not Punjabi Muslims and sinha Muslims
He is talking about sindhi muslims not punjabis
Ye to mar gaya. Jin logo ko India ne apnaya unhe Sindhi ki baat nahi karni chahiye. Sindh mein Muslims ne crore Hindus ka katl kiya behen betiyon se rape kiya. In logon ki tarif mat karo nahi to hamare purvazo ko dukh hoga
In 1947 several hundreds of Sikhs were beheaded in Karachi. Bhuttoo was from Sindh. Everyone knows he instigated both Ayub Khan to invade India in 1965 and provoked Yahia Khan to commit mass murder in East Pakistan. Kashmirriyat is a myth, Hundreds of Hindus were killed and the rest were forced to leave.
precisely, this whole "kashmiriyat" is a joke.
Stop being so thick, today's Pakistan, even if the name was not there, has always been separated from India. See what Rasool Bux Palijo (a Sindhi nationalist) wrote about the matter. Even Ptolemy separated the region centred around the Indus (today's Pakistan) with the region situated around the Ganges (today's India), and this thousands of years before the Partition.
There's no "Indian" culture like there's no "White" or "Black" - there have always been differences, therefore the Partition.
stop with the islamic separatist lies.
Lol. Who cares about such despicable lies that are repeated a billion times. The truth is it was full of hate, malice and propaganda that pushed out millions of Hindus and Sikhs out of their own homelands.
Ptolemy was a Roman born in Egypt lol when Egypt was a part of the Roman Empire. India gets it's name from the river Indus and Sindh.
Wtf is sindhi
*Old FART now dead may have something up his sleeves that may or may not be true but he projects it as true. Liar*
Mara jata karana property your
Roti.......
Jinnah did what people want to did ...
Indian fantasies.
India was never partitioned because there was no Indian nation, nor a country before 1947.
India was always just a region, nothing more. It was Punjab and Bengal that were partitioned, not India.
Lol. India/Bharat has always been there with its different provinces. Talk about Pakistan which was never a country and is famous today for all the wrong reasons.
@@pranavdubey7883 you fool, India was always a region, never a country, there's a difference.
Stop spreading childish lies.
Like other regions of the world, India the region had many different Kingdoms, that's why you still have dozens of different ethnic groups with distinct identities different languages, different dress, different cuisine, different cultures, different everything, you don't get that if you have a single country.
India was created in 1947, that's a fact.
Pakistanis have never claimed Pakistan existed 1947, because they're not stupid like Indian's. But you can't ignore the fact that all the ethnicities of Pakistan share lot of similarities going back to the Indus Valley Civilisation.
All the regional languages share the same script, everyone has accepted Urdu as the national language, they all have the same ethnic dress, their food is very similar, there are way more similarities than those existing in India. Similarities develop over time due to shared history.
Understand the issues before attempting to discuss them, please grow up.
@@youknow6968 loooooool. As if Pakistan doesn't have multiple ethnicities, languages and cultures. Oh wait! Urduization and Islamisation has ruined it. India was previously known by multiple names Bharat, Hindustan and then presently India. There were many princely states that more or less share the same cultural characteristics.
@@pranavdubey7883 fool read what I wrote again, how can you contradict and claim the same thing I wrote, that's stupid. I gave you a detailed explanation. You're giving me fantasies.
Hindustan, India, bharat never referred to a country but a region.
Hindustan and India are names given by foreigners, did your family name you or a passing stranger on the street?
Identity is first and foremost self created not given by others.
Bharat was a name taken from the King of a tiny kingdom near Nepal, it's nothing to do with India or South Asia as a whole. It has been used at various times to describe a region, never a country nor a nation.
Read what I wrote properly then answer properly, you're a child, because you're running away from the points I raised.
@@youknow6968 Sure :) How about doing yourself a favour of more reading? Japan for example is called Nihon or Nippon but we're not getting into semantics here.
India/Bharat/ Hindustan are the names referred to the present day South Asia sans Ceylon ofcourse.
The deviation from original point being how millions of innocents were pushed out from their homeland for their crime of being an innocent Hindu(Sanathani), Sikh or Jain. It's one of the largest human tragedies and now you're hell bent on proving that they're not related to the region they came from 😂. SURE.
Cause of Hindustan partition were gandhi and nehru.jinnah made all attempts to keep india joint but gandhi nehru were not ready to give one third seats and ministeries to muslims in assemblies and cabinet.
I feel it's the right thing not to have quota in the parliament on the basis of religion. We in India are indians first. Our religion comes later. I do appreciate the fact that there was no quota for Muslims in the parliament. Gandhi and Nehru did the right thing.
not 1/3, but 1/2. it is utter madness to give 50% of court seats to muslims who were less than a third of the population. that's called tyranny and supremacy of the minority.
@@thisisanewusername4662 one third read jinnah,s 14 points.it was madness of gandhi nehru to live in the past to take so called revenge from muslims for ruling 1000 years over hindus.they wanted to annihilate muslims like moodi lunatic is doing these days.
@@sibghatmansoor5125 you seem to be nothing but a very ignorant person. I do not even understand why should Muslims or for that matter anyone be given seats in the ministries based on religion. Adding on to it you talk about revenge! Nehru and Gandhi were much more secular and accepting of Muslims than present day liberals. When my country was formed, the forefathers allowed everyone to stay in India and equal rights are provided for everyone in India irrespective of religion, caste or creed. With all due respect, keep your weird thinking of quota for Muslims out of my country. As I've said earlier, in India, we are all Indians first. Our religion shall in no way give us privilege or enslave us. We are a democracy and we are proud it.
@@darryndsouza7896 we r not a democracy we r hindu cracy.government of the hindus for the hindus by the hindus.we are a hindu dominated country based on caste system.
Buddha margaya...
khalistan movement long live khalistan only solution for Sikhs
+Sherry Jat at LAHOR only ha ha ha
Sure.
You are welcome to carve out your Khalistan from present day Pakistan and make Lahore its capital.
After all, Lahore was the capital of Ranjit Singh's kingdom.
Khalistan with Lahore as capital😁
brainwashed alert
Sindhidesh*
Personally i am off the opinion that all Punjabis,Sindhis,Pushtoons,Kashmiris should unite under the flag of Pakistan
Are you of the opinion or off the opinion?
I am of the opinion you should go back to school and learn some English basics!
Do you know grandfather of Muhammad Ali Jinnah's name is " POONJA GOKULDAS MEGHJI" 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳 Now entire pakistan is suffering from identity crisis.
His two nation theory failed in 1971 when the Bangladeshis stood up for Bangladeshi nationhood, and carved out their independent nation.
Either complete exchange of populace should have happened in 1947 or partition shouldn't have happened at all.