I suspect that "nice guys" at some point in their development heard something like "He's just trying to sleep with her" and interpreted that as "trying to sleep with women is bad, a good man tries to be friends with her and won't try to sleep with her." The full version though is more like "He's pretending to be her friend just so he can try sleep with her." Pretending to be her friend is bad. Trying to sleep with a woman isn't bad, it's good; very good even depending on how much she likes you. A good potential long term partner is *supposed* to want to sleep with her, to make her feel desired, but also wanting to get to know her as a person; becoming both a lover and a friend simultanously, never one before the other
Interesting dialogue. That unattractive trait stems from the idea of “Reject first before you get rejected.” It’s a defense mechanism for insecurity and more often than not, self-perceived rejection (which is where Mark’s “The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck” should come in handy). And yes, a woman being angry is good because indifference means she has given up on the relationship. The opposite of love (uphold dignity) is not hate, but to use another (objectify). Ultimately, having self-awareness (of subconscious intention), self-honesty and being genuine/authentic is key. -Florence Chuah
Look up what attracts a man, not a woman, tbh if you’re gay and you can’t find a guy still despite how horny and simple men are to attract idk what to tell u
I suspect that "nice guys" at some point in their development heard something like "He's just trying to sleep with her" and interpreted that as "trying to sleep with women is bad, a good man tries to be friends with her and won't try to sleep with her." The full version though is more like "He's pretending to be her friend just so he can try sleep with her." Pretending to be her friend is bad. Trying to sleep with a woman isn't bad, it's good; very good even depending on how much she likes you. A good potential long term partner is *supposed* to want to sleep with her, to make her feel desired, but also wanting to get to know her as a person; becoming both a lover and a friend simultanously, never one before the other
Its not good because your suppose to try to create a relationship not sleep with her, that is grows.
Good conversation, thank you.
Interesting dialogue. That unattractive trait stems from the idea of “Reject first before you get rejected.” It’s a defense mechanism for insecurity and more often than not, self-perceived rejection (which is where Mark’s “The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck” should come in handy).
And yes, a woman being angry is good because indifference means she has given up on the relationship.
The opposite of love (uphold dignity) is not hate, but to use another (objectify).
Ultimately, having self-awareness (of subconscious intention), self-honesty and being genuine/authentic is key. -Florence Chuah
So... how can this be applied to gay people? Cause... nah
Look up what attracts a man, not a woman, tbh if you’re gay and you can’t find a guy still despite how horny and simple men are to attract idk what to tell u
The entire framing of dating is wrong in this pod
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Elaborate!