The 2023 Dodge Hornet R/T is the Plug-In Hybrid Cure for Boring Crossovers
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- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2023
- 30 miles of EV range and the fastest subcompact crossover in America? Yep, that's the Dodge Hornet if you spring for the 288 HP plug in hybrid system. Thanks to a blend of Italian DNA and American pricing, the Hornet is also likely going to be one of the least expensive PHEV crossovers around. Sadly it won't get the tax credit as it's made in Italy, but if you lease one Dodge is saying the'll factor it into a lease making this quite an attractive option if you're looking for right-sized fun.
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Brian, Nobody can ever accuse Alfa Romeo/Fiat cars of being boring. Owners should expect excitement even when they don't want it. 😉
If you’re trying to be funny it won’t work. You’re misinformed. This is not 1932. Alfa Romeo forums FULL OFF people buying their cars off lease and with people that have little to no issue. Just like a crap Japanese car. And don’t get me started on fiat cars. I was SHOCKED to know the reliability of those. Owners LOVEEEEE their fiats and simply don’t have issue with them. At least no issues that MATTER. they got home and made it to work the next morning.
You mean expect aggravation.
I love the detail in this video, Brian! Please keep it up. The interior detail such as the infotainment system, instrument cluster, and the driver side door quick look is exactly the kind of down into the details we all need more of.
I'm not in the market to buy a car in this size category but the detailed video review is definitely the half step that I would be combing Google for prior to deciding on a test drive or not. Keep up the great work!
I don't see that many deep dives into the infotainment or ADAS from AoA/ABG anymore but that would be nice content to see if the channel deems it significant enough to make reviews on (and has resources to spare for making those videos).
Good job Brian. You did keep up with the expectations for this channel following the same style and pattern Alex has been using. Question on this PHEV- Does it turn on the engine if you want to heat the cabin? A heat pump? Or something else like 4xe?
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If there are no electric motors in the front, just the rear, I wonder why Dodge didn't choose to offer the 2.0 turbo with the electric motor in the rear unless they are saving that for a potential srt version.
Great job. Easy to see why you're an Alex on Autos astute review.
This presentation reminds me of Alex on Autos, which is a good thing. 👍
However, an Italian built car sold by Dodge… 🤔 What could possibly go wrong, right?
Good presenter regardless, and the vehicle is nice looking.
I wish the seats didn't come in ONLY black color. Great video.
IMO, the Alfa version looks better but will definitely be more expensive and not fit in everyone's budget. I commend dodge for making a compact crossover that isn't anemic (like the jeep compass was). But will the added oomph be worth the fuel economy penalty when every competitor is pushing 30+ mpg. Also big question is reliability.
Reliability is not a big question. Chrysler jeep dodge and ram vehicles DO
NOT have bad reliability. Open your freaking eyes don’t you see any of those brands vehicles on the road older than 3 years old in mass ??? Or do you ONLY see new CDJR cars ?! Stop the bs. Reliability will be fine.
The hornet does not fit anyone’s budget. I was one of the first allowed to purchase one. Total cost over 6 years financed was $73700. For the “cheap” one. A little over $80k for top of the line. Absurd it’s a dodge
@@Natethegreat200cthat’s the exact opposite of what all the reliability rankings say. Jeep/Fiat vehicles always pull up the rear on those lists. Now for that they are the price of BMW and Mercedes. Stellantis has lost their collective minds. That’s why they can’t sell cars or trucks right now
I have a PHEV and my key considerations as I ponder to keep or replace are two things: does the car being considered have more electric only range and does the car being considered have equal to or greater total fuel plus electricity range?
So I will be interested to hear what the Hornet RT has in both those categories.
I'm very interested in the hornet. I currently am in a PHEV that is rated at a 47km and this is supposedly 50km. Mine, however is a small hatch that does 0-60 in about 9 seconds which is worse than my minivan... So this would be far less depressing to drive.
The other big feature is that this supports 32A 240V charging (7.6kw) which my PHEV is stuck at 3.3kw which meant it wasn't worth running a 240v circuit to where I park and I'm actually just using 120V which is capped at 12A on a 15A circuit which is 1.5kw so it takes forever to charge.
I'm kind of torn between this and the Mitsu Outlander, which seems more practical and has longer EV range but only 3.3kw charging and not as much fun.
I was interested in it until I found out the “cheap” one would cost $73k with financing. Now I’m looking at an outlander also. The outlander being very reliable, dodge/Jeep /fiat not reliable at all. Outlander is made in Japan as a bonus
You’ll be less interested when you hear the insane price they are asking for it
@@gcanada3005 I really like the look of the Hornet, but I like the tech of the Outlander. Being driven almost exclusively by the motors makes that part simple and smooth but then the trade off is inefficiency after the battery is low since the generation and storage of the power loses efficiency while being moved around between all the parts.
I wonder why Stellantis does not recycle the PHEV powertrain from Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid which granted the engine is large but electrical part of it can accelerate up till 80 MPH in pure EV mode and the battery is almost 20 kW capacity which gives 32 miles to Pacifica and at least 45 miles pure EV for this smaller vehicle, the dual electric motors sandwiched as transmission resemble the system from Toyota which is highly reliable. In this smaller vehicle only the engine should be replaced.
Love it. Want one !
Does any trim of the R/T have heated seats in the back?
This is a very interesting little car for sure, great review! :-)
Excited to see this. A new PHEV is still a great idea and will be for at least 15 years.
15 YEARS? Let’s not be silly now PHEVs will probably stop being made in 5 years because people will either go full EV or want to stick to internal combustion, PHEV is a very here and now thing and the shelf life is NOT very long that they will continue to be made
Shout out the Allbirds.
They are stating this will achieve up to 70 mpg
Quite a step up in price to get the plug in version. I'm thinking you would buy this model for the so called 'performance' gains. But if you are buying it to offset the price of gas, you would probably no break even on that cost savings equation until about the 75,000 mile mark. Perhaps you could share a calculation like that on all of these plug in hybrid reviews in the future.
That is true for almost every vehicle that comes in a regular gas model and PHEV model. Usually the break even period will be in the 5-10 year range depending on how much driving and how much charging you can do.
that steering, that paddle shifter, that is alfa romeo
Saw the GT vid already . . . love the idea of the PHEV and 33 miles is plenty of range.
Competition for the RAV4 Prime… & it sounds like its quieter. Nice.
And it’s way better than the rav4 prime in every way
Are you seriously comparing a Toyota to a Fiat/Dodge? Toyota knows how to build cars that don't fall apart after 75k miles. Stellantis is a grab bag of trash brands. One with both ICE and EV components to fail is going to be much less reliable than a Toyota.
@@Noah_E it’s not like Toyota quality is tops anymore. They’ve really fallen off a cliff in that regard. Have you seen the interiors of most Toyotas? They’re dated and boast crude fit and finish and poor nvh as well
@@naveenthemachine Check JD Power Dependability Ratings. In 2022 Toyota had 158 problems per 100 vehicles. It was 166 for Dodge. 201 for Jeep. 240 for Chrysler. 245 for Alfa Romeo. 266 for Ram. That was on new cars. Give them a few years and the Stellantis brands will start to show the results of poor engineering and cost cutting like they have for decades. The Japanese aren't as good as they used to be and are falling behind the Koreans, but they are still miles ahead of Stellantis when it comes to build quality/materials and long term reliability.
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Well, there was that insane recall for the BZ4X, wheels falling off and all....
Kinda jumping the line, with not having fuel economy numbers for the first economy car Dodge gas made since the Dart...
Perhaps in person it will look better, but for now the front end is not for me.
My Audi A3 e-tron would do 82mph before kicking on the gas engine. Far more usable for commuting.
The Tonale’s front end and wheels are so much nicer. Unfortunately.
I would rather have more power in a Jeep Wrangler for that price you get more vehicle backwheel drive with the best 4x4 4xe
Pretty sure folks would rather their dodges look like an Alfa Romeo🤣. That being said, let's hope it also doesn't have the reliability of an alfa Romeo.
You say it looks more like an Alfa than a Dodge as if that's a bad thing.
Looks like they stole the lower grill from BMW 3-series.
They should be made in America and Back wheel drive not front wheel drive.
Not an American company anymore. Hasn't been for quite awile...
They have got to stop deleting basic features like fog lights, rear wipers, real dials and buttons, and reducing availability of "luxuries" like real leather and sunroofs while simultaneously increasing prices. Consumers need to vote with their wallets and stop buying new cars until the value for money returns to where it should be. They should earn your purchase, not act like they are doing you a favor by selling to you.
the worst of both worlds, yay....
You’re misinformed. This is not 1930.
Still boring and not a Dodge. It's a rebadged Alfa
Why do all PHEVs have such poultry EV range. I want 80-100 EV miles and a small ICE engine.
Because battery is expensive and heavy
Why though? Is that your commute? That’s way longer than most.
Also, thats not economical. 80-100 mile range on this car means it needs at least 3x the battery - an extra 30+ kWh. That’s a minimum $4000 more, another 500 pounds of weight, and lose another cubic foot or two in the passenger area.
Also, don’t see what chickens have to do with it (perhaps you mean paltry)
Actually, you should wait for the Mazda mx30 with the range extender
Yep, because batteries are expensive and heavy and after 30-40 miles there's little benefit for the average driver. Most commutes are short so the point is daily driving in EV mode and longer trips on gas. If you want 100+ miles of ev range a small battery EV is a better option.
At that point just get a BEV…
I refuse to support Alfa Romeo by buying this fake Dodge.