On the topic of ppl whispering/not speaking while they sign: it's actually incredibly difficult to sign and speak at the same time because ASL has a different sentence structure than English. It's not a word-for-word translation, so keeping the English sentence straight in your head while signing is actually really hard, so people just usually only whisper or don't talk at all while signing
i love the undertone of this series of how the cousin's reunite and all hell breaks loose and they try to hide it from grandma. all the while grandpa just pleads the 5th
I didn't expect to like Echo because I didn't really care for her character in Hawkeye. Just finished episode 2 and I'm really liking her and the show so far!
Same, but I was loving her character in Hawkeye and thought a show would be cool but just not necessary but now I’ve seen it, it’s my favorite MCU show
1:28 This happened in the comics as well. However, both his eyes were damaged. He had surgery to repair them. There's also some cases that some people can survive gunshot wounds like that
I already and always loved and liked Alaqua Cox's MCU's live-action Maya Lopez aka ECHO in the MCU's Marvel Studios Hawkeye Television series Season 1.
5:30 Man, it's great to see Graham Greene again! He's an amazing actor, from Dancing with the Wolves, Green Mile, and the Defiance tv series! Glad to see him in the Echo series! 🙏🏽💪
I still have to review everything I saw, but the best thing about the show is the cast, everyone acts so well that they feel like real characters with different personalities. Personally this helps me connect more with echo🤔
Honestly! Its helping me savour the series due it only being 5 episodes. I can take a break between each episode to see everyones opinion and digest as many hidden details as possible.
Keep watching, there's more to that story that gets explained later on. That matter aside, surely Maya wasn't the only deaf Native American. Bilingual people don't just forget one of the languages they know. Someone out of practice could sound like a person whose vocabulary was sealed away in a time capsule, but they don't just forget it. To be clear, I'm talking about truly bilingual people, people who are fluent, which is what we see with Maya and her cousin and family friend?
Damn Jaby, shots fire so early in the reaction. Achara's going to get you for that one. I saw that stare, it was like "You're mine after the reaction". 🤣 I started to wonder if Maya was a blood descendant of the first Choctaw leader Chafa and each of the people named after episodes are as well. The last episode is called Maya after all. I'm only on the episode 2 and the scene at the beginning with a woman I assume to be Lowak in the game being played showed the same hands effect that Chafa had. I thought I'd have to wait until episode 5 called Maya to find out, but they answered it here. That "buy the damn thing" chant that Graham Green in the pawn shop had me rolling. He always makes me laugh at the things he says even when it's in a serious tone. He's delivery is awesome. Her grandpa has some nice mechanical skills. If I had skills like that I'd be constantly building cool stuff from things that were broken and selling them for a better price than the big companies that charge people way too much. If people supplied the materials I would build it for just a reasonable amount per hour spent working on it. I'm not the greedy type and I'd have fun just seeing if I can do it. That song "All my Life" by KC and Jojo in the bowling ally scene , as well as, "I Knew I Loved You" by Savage Garden are two of my favorite songs that I'd want to sing to the woman that I want to settle down with. I need to finish my love song playlist for that special lady when I meet her. I didn't notice any of the issues that the two of you notice in the episode. I wonder if it's because I don't know about all of the production stuff like you two my mind doesn't get distracted by it. I can just focus on and enjoy the story, the action and the emotional connection of what I'm watching. However, I still say that Marvel needs to stop with the 6 or less episode shows and start doing an 8 to 13 minimum to give shows time to breathe and build characters up better. It's not like Disney doesn't have the money to bankroll more episodes and they will get better reviews of the shows if they use writers and directors that have product great results like with the Loki series. Enjoyed the reaction 👍👍✌ out.
People have been shot up close in the face with a shotgun and have survived, so I can buy that Fisk standing three feet away from Maya survived a shot to his eye.
About the headshot - from Band of Brothers, the real-life Captain Sobel survived a self-inflicted shot to the head. Similar to this case, he was blinded as a result.
To Jaby’s Q about if this is authentic to First Nations. I grew up on a Reservation & the humour is spot on. I find it is quite accurate to what I’ve experienced. I also highly suggest immersing yourself in the culture sometime. True salt of the earth ppl.
Omg hi Cinepals I am so sorry for not responding earlier, I love your marvel echo season 2 series so much, the actors did a fantastic job, I can’t wait to see your videos soon.
Jabys right, there's a trick the show is missing, and it's all to do with the sound design. A quiet place nailed it, they should have taken notes from that.
I feel the same. I felt like there was something off. I watched all 5 episodes. No spoilers, but if I would to grade it, I would give it a C. There was enough entertainment for it to pass, but it was missing something, especially the fight scene in the final episode.
I thought Jabby was gonnay say that the thing that he likes in this episode is the lady that is taking the score. lol Also, Achara is right, just be true to yourself, even if I don't disagree with Jabby often, but at least I get to see his point sometime. :)
jaby has valid questions, but didn't even cross my mind there were any sort of issues until he brought it up. the problem with being from the entertainment industry as jaby is, you know how the sausage is made. unlike a normie audience, instead of just appreciating the show for what it is, you instead look at it with the critical eye of someone who's been behind the scenes. kinda takes the fun out of it.
The way the stick-ball game is characterized here makes me wonder if the modern sports culture in America (and by extension much of the rest of the world) might have evolved more from Native American influences that European ones. It's hard to picture British people in Shakespeare's day getting riled up about a football match the way they do today. I thought it started with rivalries between universities, but maybe there's more to it than that...
Hard of hearing person here: Even if just whispering the words, giving an opportunity to reinforce the sign language with lip reading can make a huge difference in comprehension. That's why they're doing that. It can also help the person signing to keep track -- at least that's been my (admittedly limited) experience.
as of episode 2 i am right there with Jaby of not caring (yet). i want to but im kind of numb to what they are giving me. hopefully that will change starting with episode 3, maybe?
@@bibek12332 there not "completely different" in the comics echo was abele to mimic other people in the show she can mimic her ancestors its the same power they just changed how it works
@@NickHall-gm1gu nah mate its completely different Wth😂 In comics she doesn’t have any cosmic superpowers, she’s just a hard worker who trains alot In comics it shows how she is trains and becomes so strong She can also predict and replicate other fighter's movements She was definitely indigenous but had no cosmic superpowers that brings her ancestors infront of her to give her strength Not saying its bad or good but there are alot of changes from the comics You can fact check aswell because the showrunner mentioned this like months ago You can google her quote
I can be watching my favorite movies and shows and still notice wonky cg, weak performances, poorly fitted costumes, background actors doing way too much, a Starbucks cup....For me, that has nothing to do with my investment in the story.
In the comics her super power was being able to mimic some one's fighting style immediately, the powers that be decided that power was " lame". I prefer the comics better, disney thinks they are better than the person who created the character.
It's not lame, but it isn't visually interesting or easily communicated to a viewing audience. Most viewers can't tell the difference between judo/taekwondo/karate...etc mid-fight scene, so it would be a power of verbal exposition rather than visual presentation. I get why they made a change.
Come on Jaby, a person doesn't have to talk loudly when signing with a deaf person. They can't hear anything anyway. They are doing it how it is supposed to communicate. Not like fake other movies that do it your way. Complain Complain Complain
Many deaf people learn to read lips, so people who can speak, and use ASL will also verbalize the words, but keep it quiet as their target can't actually hear it.
In case you didn't realize, the actress that plays Bonnie is the voice actress for Kahhori in "What If...?"
I keep calling Bonnie "Kahhori" every time she shows up because of that 😅
Biscuits face as he drove past his grandma was hilarious
the guy bears a strong resemblance to zach galifianakis
On the topic of ppl whispering/not speaking while they sign: it's actually incredibly difficult to sign and speak at the same time because ASL has a different sentence structure than English. It's not a word-for-word translation, so keeping the English sentence straight in your head while signing is actually really hard, so people just usually only whisper or don't talk at all while signing
i love the undertone of this series of how the cousin's reunite and all hell breaks loose and they try to hide it from grandma. all the while grandpa just pleads the 5th
I didn't expect to like Echo because I didn't really care for her character in Hawkeye. Just finished episode 2 and I'm really liking her and the show so far!
I think her being the normal one in her family is kinda funny everyone is so fun and it's sad that she had to grow up away from them
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Same, but I was loving her character in Hawkeye and thought a show would be cool but just not necessary but now I’ve seen it, it’s my favorite MCU show
“Sexy Canoe” guys name for anyone who wants to know is SUYETA DROWNINGBEAR. He said thank you Cinepals for the compliments.
1:28 This happened in the comics as well. However, both his eyes were damaged. He had surgery to repair them. There's also some cases that some people can survive gunshot wounds like that
I already and always loved and liked Alaqua Cox's MCU's live-action Maya Lopez aka ECHO in the MCU's Marvel Studios Hawkeye Television series Season 1.
From Phase Four and Five of The Multiverse Saga of the MCU aka the Marvel Cinematic Universe made of movies and tv shows adapted from Marvel Comics
5:30 Man, it's great to see Graham Greene again! He's an amazing actor, from Dancing with the Wolves, Green Mile, and the Defiance tv series! Glad to see him in the Echo series! 🙏🏽💪
I feel like the grandma was ALSO in Dances with wolves as his wife! I swear that's the same lady. Cool if they reunited on this
I still have to review everything I saw, but the best thing about the show is the cast, everyone acts so well that they feel like real characters with different personalities. Personally this helps me connect more with echo🤔
11:00 I remember him from Limitless and Agents of Shield season 3
i’m loving the content every reactor channel is putting out, i’m glad marvel released all episodes out at once
Honestly! Its helping me savour the series due it only being 5 episodes. I can take a break between each episode to see everyones opinion and digest as many hidden details as possible.
So Maya’s the only hearing impaired family member, but she hasn’t seen her family for 20 years. Yet they’re all still great at ASL. That’s impressive.
Keep watching, there's more to that story that gets explained later on. That matter aside, surely Maya wasn't the only deaf Native American. Bilingual people don't just forget one of the languages they know. Someone out of practice could sound like a person whose vocabulary was sealed away in a time capsule, but they don't just forget it. To be clear, I'm talking about truly bilingual people, people who are fluent, which is what we see with Maya and her cousin and family friend?
Its obvious her family have learned ASL since she was young. Even w/ her being gone for 20yrs, they will have that instilled in them
Damn Jaby, shots fire so early in the reaction. Achara's going to get you for that one. I saw that stare, it was like "You're mine after the reaction". 🤣
I started to wonder if Maya was a blood descendant of the first Choctaw leader Chafa and each of the people named after episodes are as well. The last episode is called Maya after all. I'm only on the episode 2 and the scene at the beginning with a woman I assume to be Lowak in the game being played showed the same hands effect that Chafa had. I thought I'd have to wait until episode 5 called Maya to find out, but they answered it here.
That "buy the damn thing" chant that Graham Green in the pawn shop had me rolling. He always makes me laugh at the things he says even when it's in a serious tone. He's delivery is awesome.
Her grandpa has some nice mechanical skills. If I had skills like that I'd be constantly building cool stuff from things that were broken and selling them for a better price than the big companies that charge people way too much. If people supplied the materials I would build it for just a reasonable amount per hour spent working on it. I'm not the greedy type and I'd have fun just seeing if I can do it.
That song "All my Life" by KC and Jojo in the bowling ally scene , as well as, "I Knew I Loved You" by Savage Garden are two of my favorite songs that I'd want to sing to the woman that I want to settle down with. I need to finish my love song playlist for that special lady when I meet her.
I didn't notice any of the issues that the two of you notice in the episode. I wonder if it's because I don't know about all of the production stuff like you two my mind doesn't get distracted by it. I can just focus on and enjoy the story, the action and the emotional connection of what I'm watching. However, I still say that Marvel needs to stop with the 6 or less episode shows and start doing an 8 to 13 minimum to give shows time to breathe and build characters up better. It's not like Disney doesn't have the money to bankroll more episodes and they will get better reviews of the shows if they use writers and directors that have product great results like with the Loki series.
Enjoyed the reaction 👍👍✌ out.
It's so cool to see Devery Jacobs (aka Kahhori/Bonnie) throughout these episodes!
Carl got shot in the eye and lived lol
15:48 You just witnessed a visual echo in time, the first Choctaw to her most recent descendant, Maya.
People have been shot up close in the face with a shotgun and have survived, so I can buy that Fisk standing three feet away from Maya survived a shot to his eye.
they’re so beautifully different it’s so sweet to watch them together 🤍✨🤍✨🤍✨
Jaby's reaction is very Jaby. I love the people of her town.
About the headshot - from Band of Brothers, the real-life Captain Sobel survived a self-inflicted shot to the head. Similar to this case, he was blinded as a result.
Skvli iksho means “No money” so I busted out laughing when he said that 😂😂
To Jaby’s Q about if this is authentic to First Nations. I grew up on a Reservation & the humour is spot on. I find it is quite accurate to what I’ve experienced. I also highly suggest immersing yourself in the culture sometime. True salt of the earth ppl.
Its always a good day when cinepals posts a new video
Omg hi Cinepals I am so sorry for not responding earlier, I love your marvel echo season 2 series so much, the actors did a fantastic job, I can’t wait to see your videos soon.
Jabys right, there's a trick the show is missing, and it's all to do with the sound design. A quiet place nailed it, they should have taken notes from that.
I feel the same. I felt like there was something off. I watched all 5 episodes. No spoilers, but if I would to grade it, I would give it a C. There was enough entertainment for it to pass, but it was missing something, especially the fight scene in the final episode.
The best way I can describe it is, it started off feeling like the Marvel Netflix shows and by the end it felt more like a Marvel Disney show
It was decent until they shoehorned in the silly ancestor powers
The Bonnie actress is the voice of Kahhori in What If?
2:41 yeah, I wanna know her name too 😂
1:43 😂
5:24 Yikes! 😂
I liked the tone, and the story. Pacing problem yes, but because the first two good points I can forgive the action scenes. I give it a pass.
15:57 Actually, I can see that! 🙏🏽💪
Definitely agree that the first two episodes weren't great. I enjoyed the other three for the most part.
Hola! saludos desde Argentina. Los extrañaba!
Maya has the One for All quirk.
Achara is going to snap on Jaby one of these days and I'm ready for it lol. Be nice Jaby!
3:53 Yikes! 😂💪
I feel the same way as Jaby. Something is holding me back.
2:58 it’s the winners that get sacrificed.
HEEEEEEEEEY it's the old man from TLOU episode 6.
I thought Jabby was gonnay say that the thing that he likes in this episode is the lady that is taking the score. lol
Also, Achara is right, just be true to yourself, even if I don't disagree with Jabby often, but at least I get to see his point sometime. :)
they may not be native american but achara on the echo reactions and steph on the what if reactions could easily pass for indigenous imo. 😄
I like episode 1 2 but they great but something feel like a missing like a what next kind of curiosity missing
2:41 👀 😂
It's interesting to me, I don't notice or care about the nitpicky stuff you refer to.
It is entirely entertaining
jaby has valid questions, but didn't even cross my mind there were any sort of issues until he brought it up. the problem with being from the entertainment industry as jaby is, you know how the sausage is made. unlike a normie audience, instead of just appreciating the show for what it is, you instead look at it with the critical eye of someone who's been behind the scenes. kinda takes the fun out of it.
The way the stick-ball game is characterized here makes me wonder if the modern sports culture in America (and by extension much of the rest of the world) might have evolved more from Native American influences that European ones. It's hard to picture British people in Shakespeare's day getting riled up about a football match the way they do today. I thought it started with rivalries between universities, but maybe there's more to it than that...
did you guys stop watching monarch: legacy of monsters
Hard of hearing person here: Even if just whispering the words, giving an opportunity to reinforce the sign language with lip reading can make a huge difference in comprehension. That's why they're doing that. It can also help the person signing to keep track -- at least that's been my (admittedly limited) experience.
Watching Ep4 while I'm typing and I think it's really good! Not enough for me to scream "Marvel is BACK, Baybee!," but still..... :)
U commented exact same thing on rxn 1
@@marvelhq5241 Yep! Still lovin' it :)
@@IsiahBradley do u think marvel is dead?
@@marvelhq5241 Nope, but it has to do better.
@@IsiahBradley yup believe there is still hope but if secret wars doesn't turns out right then its gone
Madripoor comes back up!!!
as of episode 2 i am right there with Jaby of not caring (yet). i want to but im kind of numb to what they are giving me. hopefully that will change starting with episode 3, maybe?
I mean echo had powers in the comics so i dont know why she wouldnt here🤷♀️
Completely different powers though
@@bibek12332 there not "completely different" in the comics echo was abele to mimic other people in the show she can mimic her ancestors its the same power they just changed how it works
@@NickHall-gm1gu nah mate its completely different
Wth😂
In comics she doesn’t have any cosmic superpowers, she’s just a hard worker who trains alot
In comics it shows how she is trains and becomes so strong
She can also predict and replicate other fighter's movements
She was definitely indigenous but had no cosmic superpowers that brings her ancestors infront of her to give her strength
Not saying its bad or good but there are alot of changes from the comics
You can fact check aswell because the showrunner mentioned this like months ago
You can google her quote
I can be watching my favorite movies and shows and still notice wonky cg, weak performances, poorly fitted costumes, background actors doing way too much, a Starbucks cup....For me, that has nothing to do with my investment in the story.
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14:31 👀
In the comics her super power was being able to mimic some one's fighting style immediately, the powers that be decided that power was " lame". I prefer the comics better, disney thinks they are better than the person who created the character.
You mean like Taskmaster ?
I think they just didn't want to use the stuff they were doing with taskmaster again. They are focusing on her ancestors here
It's not lame, but it isn't visually interesting or easily communicated to a viewing audience. Most viewers can't tell the difference between judo/taekwondo/karate...etc mid-fight scene, so it would be a power of verbal exposition rather than visual presentation. I get why they made a change.
@@lightdarksoul2097duhh thy did Taskmaster dirty already.
Hurr durr anything I don't like is lame boo hoo
Jaby *fart
If you want a better deaf mute mc watch tanking of kings
Seems a bit cheap and forced to make her part of a superpowered native American bloodline.
This show had so much opportunity and potential... the creators, directors, and writers dropped the ball on this. sorry to say
Marvel is well and truly dead
No it's not whiner
The show was pretty decent until they added the silly ancestor powers
Come on Jaby, a person doesn't have to talk loudly when signing with a deaf person. They can't hear anything anyway. They are doing it how it is supposed to communicate. Not like fake other movies that do it your way. Complain Complain Complain
Many deaf people learn to read lips, so people who can speak, and use ASL will also verbalize the words, but keep it quiet as their target can't actually hear it.