The video does clarify what you’re saying, but Absolutely, if you’re intending on wearing a boot like this for actual work, Drew’s loggers is the way to go. Or Franks Patriots. I only own Drew’s but I came damn close to buying Franks on their Black Friday sale, they just didn’t have my size. But those boots are built with the proper last, thicker leather, taller uppers, full gussets. I would like to try the Thursday’s though and actually work in them as a test, and review it. Because no one is doing that on RUclips.
I currently have my Drew’s 8 inch loggers on and I love them for work but because the last they use is wider I have a harder time wearing them “out on the town”. I think the challenger could be a great “dressier” option for me since my feet feel most at home in a high arch last and would suit, like I said, a more dressed up occasion (especially the shell cordovan)
I might of missed it in your review but the fact that Nicks does custom SIZING is so huge. 6.5FF feet? Cool! 13B? Also cool! You can even pick your last. Having this level of custom design and sizing is pretty rare in this industry and is the reason they have to charge more. If Nicks went out of business, those customers would have to go bespoke, which starts at 2k dollars, if you can even find a guy that does that.
@@banbaji yeah I mention their crazy width selection, can’t remember if I said they’ll make two sizes for different feet if you need. It’s really nuts how hard it is to find brands that go as wide as nicks, doubly so for narrow brands
Few seem to comment on the faux counter cover. The upper is skived down and barely overlaps the counter cover. Also, the reported holes in the bottom of the gusset are no bueno. Good on them for using a leather toe puff, but the wierd sloped last, fake counter cover, fake gusset, etc. are huge red flags.
The problem with these Turdsday Challengers is that they didn’t build up the arch. All the PNW high heeled boots have arch support built up with layers of leather that you can see are not in the Turdsdays when they show it cut in half. The Turdsday just slopes downward. Your foot constantly sliding down is going to make these boots uncomfortable.
The big concern I’ve read everywhere with the Thursday Challenger is that the last causes your foot to slide to the front because the rear is too ramped up and the arch isn’t high enough to lock in the rear/heel of your foot.
I can’t remember- did we ever find out where the “Vanguard/Made in USA” line of Thursdays are from? It’s cool seeing Thursday come this far. I remember buying their boots in 2017 and the quality control was horrible! They even told me to keep a belt I ordered from them because it was so bad. I threw it away dude! Might revisit them once my whites break-in.
One thing I think that needs more light on is the way Thursday boots markets things. Thursdays' biggest selling point to me was the ability to resole the boot due to the goodyear welt construction. Admittedly I didn't get one so I don't have experience but I've kept a close eye on how people's experiences are with them. I've been reading more and more people talk about how the boots can technically be resoled but only once or twice or very rarely three times is the limit. That many times to resole a boot is great don't get me wrong but to my limited knowledge it only goes to the short end of where boots made of this caliber could potentially last. With that said, I remain skeptical of the marketing of these being "upgraded" from a goodyear to a stitchdown construction among many things with, again, seemingly enhanced versions of x,y,z brand doing x,y,z things. The price of these kinds of boots is great but how you sell it to get there matters too in. And because that's been a thing that I read constantly about Thursdays I hesitate to buy it even at that price. Maybe I'm wrong or misinformed here so if anyone can shed light or share their experiences that would be really helpful to me and anyone else who reads it.
To be honest mate, I'm not sure what question is. How many times a boot can be resolved depends on many factors. If you use the boots for workwear, then maybe once at most. If you wear boots casually and you own more than one pair which is the probably the case for viewers of this channel. Then, you could get two or more resoles. On a gyw, the welt can be replaced. My understanding is that stitchdown is more durable than gyw. As Nick says in the video there is a market for PNW boots then probably isn't you or I.
Goodyear welted boots can generally be resoled more times than stitchdown. Stitchdown stitches through the uppers everytime they are re-soled whereas GYW boots have a replaceable welt. Good cobblers will try and use the same stitch holes with both methods but having the welt, or upper in the case of stitchdown, in a vulnerabe location means that sometimes the welt will only last one or two re-soles before being replaced by a cobbler. With stitchdown you cannot just change the welt and if the stitched edges of the upper get damaged it is not going to be easy to repair. Having said all that, you need to have the rest of the uppers and the footbed also last through multiple re-soles and it very much depends on the individual and how they use the boots. For example, Red Wing boots have nice thick leather footbeds which appeals to boot people and should be better than synthetic footbeds but despite the traditional material used I've seen several cobblers say that they're prone to rotting away with sweat. That means the repair becomes much more complicated and expensive (assuming the cobbler is willing to do it) and may not be worthwhile if it costs 75% of a new boot to do. On the other side, the very thick outsoles used in PNW style boots will make them last a lot longer before needing re-soled. Generally the cheaper the boot the less likely people are to re-sole them though if the rest of the boot is still in good condition a straight forward re-sole will be more economical than buying new boots. Spend 50% of the new cost on a re-sole and get double the life out of the boots. I think the reality is that most people don't get more than three or so re-soles out of any pair of boots before there's so much wear and damage on the uppers that they decide it's not worth the cost of the re-build and decide a new pair is a better bet. Personally I don't think it's worth worrying about and even a cheap pair of standard Thursday boots are likely to last you a long time and longer still if they're in good enough condition to re-sole once or twice.
Have the Challengers in Black Teacore. Also have Thursday Vanguard. The Challenger is a completely different species. It is fairly comfortable out of the box. No slippage issue with proper socks like Smartwool or Darn Tough. No problem with logger heel on short hikes so far. Not great for driving though. I do not have personal experience with Nick's but I can attest these are a quality product on an entirely different level from the Vanguard, which was the premium Thursday offering.
Please Nick, I am begging you to ask the guys from Thursdays to make some challengers in a wide last for the wide footed gorillas like me who still want to splurge on a great pair of boots from a great brand. If there were a way to gauge interest that'd be awesome. I get that there might not be many of us. And it's probably partially my fault too since I started working out in barefoot footwear the last couple years.
I like all of the boots I have purchased from Thursday. Good boots and shoes for the money. For me, they have held up well. I did buy a Challenger in CF Stead leather. It's a beefy boot and I love the leather. The only problem is heel. I think the heel stack is a little too tall. It pushes me into the toe at an angle. Hopefully when they broken in better, this will go away. Never had this issue with my other boots. And, I am still waiting on my Nick's Americana boots to arrive. Thanks for the review. 20 weeks and counting on the Nicks.
I have always bought Timberlands, Doc Martens, Thursday boots and kind of viewed a lot of those logger Boots as a big waste of money. Well, Boy was I wrong. I was recently fortunate enough to find a $700 pair of Whites Boots on Craigslist for just $25 from a kid that lightly wore them and no longer wanted them. After wearing them for the first time I quickly understood that not all Boots are made equal and there are levels to this Boot game. Those White’s Boots are built like tanks 😂 I have now gotten the Boot itch and will be looking to buy a pair from Whites, Nicks, Truman or Drew’s.
Great video! Black Label looks awesome, even more so for the price. :) Black label looks like my opportunity to try horse hide... It is worth noting that Nick's also uses Horween Chromexel and veg-tan, ie slightly fancy leathers. I also believe that they cut their leathers 2,5-3,5mm, rather than 2-2,5 like black label.
I'm in England, bought Thursday boots, the shadow grey waxed suede Chelsea, absolute garbage, stitching coming apart after a few wears, my cobbler repaired them, he said they were trash. Convinced most RUclipsrs sponsored by Thursday, I'll stick with proven UK brands like Loake 1880, Crockett and Jones and Trickers in the future.
I need to get back to the Thursday store in Manhattan. I ordered the Diplomat with the lug sole and they just don’t look good to me. I really need to get in to try their other options with the lug sole for winter
I have the Thursday challenger and I really want to know if the heel is glued? The 180 stitch down is not 270 so is the other half glued, if it is I wonder how long it will last
I own two pairs of Nicks and love them. I 100% will continue to support USA made boots. That being said, I hope that Nicks’ sales stay strong so they don’t reduce their quality to compete with Mexico.
from my experience, celastic stiffeners are harder to break in then leather. these boots are a really good value but I would personally choose drews boots because i think a logger boot looks better with a taller toe box
Super video Nick!!! FWIW, your photo of Truman boots labeled stone rambler actually looks like coach rambler (with the more orange hues). Sorry to nitpick, but that's what boot nerds do, lol.🤪
i think i heard they were going to, but maybe they were just talking about that new "Thunder" boot, it has all the specs of the black label boots except the fancy leathers so it's not in that collection
I would love to see the black label in the captain style. Just the standard looking city boot built with the leather insole and midsole and none of the synthetic shit inside.
Wish you would do a whole video on the Txtures boot lineup. From your recommendation, I bought a pair and absolutely love them. The for and finish is perfect and they look like a dress boot that can dig holes with the best of the best construction style boots!!!
I’m curious to see what other models Thursday will (possibly?) add to the Black Label Collection. Will they expand or just try to take on the more rugged type of boots (rather than a British or dressier style.) Also WTF is with that Showtime boot and how have they not been sent a cease and desist?
Oh you mean the Nike looking one…I mean the Thursday with the long Y. lol. Beyond a cease and desist not already happening the colors and that logo on that version just make them look like some weird cheap knockoff. Whoever designed that should be fired.
The relief cut midsole bothers me for a couple of reasons, longevity, noise, and comfort being the key points. Otherwise nice looking boots but not feeling em for the fab shop environment.
The lack of proper last development, arch support, and still cutting corners for safety make this a non starter. And at the price and not MiUS i can get quality boots from Bordon, Parkhurst, Blkbrd, or Grant Stone that are all better in every respect. Thursday is great for a sneaker head who needs a nice pair of boots. Nothing else, regardless of the sponsored opinions shared here.
Nice view but as usual these PNW comments are annoying. Can't look at anything Thursday without people telling you that you're feet are going to spontaneously combust.
I'm sorry, I just CANNOT buy a pair of logging boots. I'm from the NW, Oregon to be specific. My Great Grandfather lost his life logging, and his sons (my grandfather and great uncles) were all loggers too. I'd feel like such a poser wearing these..
Drews Loggers and Franks Patriot blows the Thursday out of the water if price is a concern
The video does clarify what you’re saying, but Absolutely, if you’re intending on wearing a boot like this for actual work, Drew’s loggers is the way to go. Or Franks Patriots. I only own Drew’s but I came damn close to buying Franks on their Black Friday sale, they just didn’t have my size. But those boots are built with the proper last, thicker leather, taller uppers, full gussets. I would like to try the Thursday’s though and actually work in them as a test, and review it. Because no one is doing that on RUclips.
I currently have my Drew’s 8 inch loggers on and I love them for work but because the last they use is wider I have a harder time wearing them “out on the town”. I think the challenger could be a great “dressier” option for me since my feet feel most at home in a high arch last and would suit, like I said, a more dressed up occasion (especially the shell cordovan)
@@kylemazur1447 Lol, wearing a V100 lug sole for "dressier occasions". Reevaulate your fashion sense
I have own both Nicks boots and Thursday boots. I would go with Nicks boots all day any day. I would rather save my money and buy Nicks boots.
I might of missed it in your review but the fact that Nicks does custom SIZING is so huge. 6.5FF feet? Cool! 13B? Also cool! You can even pick your last.
Having this level of custom design and sizing is pretty rare in this industry and is the reason they have to charge more. If Nicks went out of business, those customers would have to go bespoke, which starts at 2k dollars, if you can even find a guy that does that.
Kreosote being among them, with ~50 pairs made annually so good luck with those odds.
@@banbaji yeah I mention their crazy width selection, can’t remember if I said they’ll make two sizes for different feet if you need. It’s really nuts how hard it is to find brands that go as wide as nicks, doubly so for narrow brands
thursdays lack of wide in the challenger is disappointing.
Few seem to comment on the faux counter cover. The upper is skived down and barely overlaps the counter cover. Also, the reported holes in the bottom of the gusset are no bueno. Good on them for using a leather toe puff, but the wierd sloped last, fake counter cover, fake gusset, etc. are huge red flags.
I won’t be straying from my
Nicks, but I love that people have more options. These Thursdays look epic.
The fact that these boots are even being compared to something as premium as Nick’s is a testament to how far Thursday have come
The problem with these Turdsday Challengers is that they didn’t build up the arch. All the PNW high heeled boots have arch support built up with layers of leather that you can see are not in the Turdsdays when they show it cut in half. The Turdsday just slopes downward. Your foot constantly sliding down is going to make these boots uncomfortable.
Turdsday!!! 🤣
exactly...
Why does everyone leave Drews/Bakers Boots out of the list of QUALITY PNW boots? I have a pair...I love them. Better made than my Franks and JK.
Don't sleep on the journeyman Chelseas! They definitely give RM Williams a run for their money.
The big concern I’ve read everywhere with the Thursday Challenger is that the last causes your foot to slide to the front because the rear is too ramped up and the arch isn’t high enough to lock in the rear/heel of your foot.
Just from the first look, that's exactly what i though to myself. The heel looks like it is sloped.
This was the problem I had with the 1st version of the Thursday Captain boot. 😅
I can’t remember- did we ever find out where the “Vanguard/Made in USA” line of Thursdays are from?
It’s cool seeing Thursday come this far. I remember buying their boots in 2017 and the quality control was horrible! They even told me to keep a belt I ordered from them because it was so bad. I threw it away dude! Might revisit them once my whites break-in.
Great point/question!
One thing I think that needs more light on is the way Thursday boots markets things. Thursdays' biggest selling point to me was the ability to resole the boot due to the goodyear welt construction. Admittedly I didn't get one so I don't have experience but I've kept a close eye on how people's experiences are with them. I've been reading more and more people talk about how the boots can technically be resoled but only once or twice or very rarely three times is the limit. That many times to resole a boot is great don't get me wrong but to my limited knowledge it only goes to the short end of where boots made of this caliber could potentially last. With that said, I remain skeptical of the marketing of these being "upgraded" from a goodyear to a stitchdown construction among many things with, again, seemingly enhanced versions of x,y,z brand doing x,y,z things. The price of these kinds of boots is great but how you sell it to get there matters too in. And because that's been a thing that I read constantly about Thursdays I hesitate to buy it even at that price. Maybe I'm wrong or misinformed here so if anyone can shed light or share their experiences that would be really helpful to me and anyone else who reads it.
To be honest mate, I'm not sure what question is. How many times a boot can be resolved depends on many factors. If you use the boots for workwear, then maybe once at most. If you wear boots casually and you own more than one pair which is the probably the case for viewers of this channel. Then, you could get two or more resoles. On a gyw, the welt can be replaced. My understanding is that stitchdown is more durable than gyw. As Nick says in the video there is a market for PNW boots then probably isn't you or I.
Goodyear welted boots can generally be resoled more times than stitchdown. Stitchdown stitches through the uppers everytime they are re-soled whereas GYW boots have a replaceable welt. Good cobblers will try and use the same stitch holes with both methods but having the welt, or upper in the case of stitchdown, in a vulnerabe location means that sometimes the welt will only last one or two re-soles before being replaced by a cobbler. With stitchdown you cannot just change the welt and if the stitched edges of the upper get damaged it is not going to be easy to repair.
Having said all that, you need to have the rest of the uppers and the footbed also last through multiple re-soles and it very much depends on the individual and how they use the boots. For example, Red Wing boots have nice thick leather footbeds which appeals to boot people and should be better than synthetic footbeds but despite the traditional material used I've seen several cobblers say that they're prone to rotting away with sweat. That means the repair becomes much more complicated and expensive (assuming the cobbler is willing to do it) and may not be worthwhile if it costs 75% of a new boot to do.
On the other side, the very thick outsoles used in PNW style boots will make them last a lot longer before needing re-soled.
Generally the cheaper the boot the less likely people are to re-sole them though if the rest of the boot is still in good condition a straight forward re-sole will be more economical than buying new boots. Spend 50% of the new cost on a re-sole and get double the life out of the boots.
I think the reality is that most people don't get more than three or so re-soles out of any pair of boots before there's so much wear and damage on the uppers that they decide it's not worth the cost of the re-build and decide a new pair is a better bet.
Personally I don't think it's worth worrying about and even a cheap pair of standard Thursday boots are likely to last you a long time and longer still if they're in good enough condition to re-sole once or twice.
Have the Challengers in Black Teacore. Also have Thursday Vanguard. The Challenger is a completely different species. It is fairly comfortable out of the box. No slippage issue with proper socks like Smartwool or Darn Tough. No problem with logger heel on short hikes so far. Not great for driving though. I do not have personal experience with Nick's but I can attest these are a quality product on an entirely different level from the Vanguard, which was the premium Thursday offering.
Excellent comparison. I’ve been eyeing the Challenger. This video might have just put me over the edge.
Nick! Any comment on nails in the construction? Amount of them or actually almost lack of them in one or the other?
Please Nick, I am begging you to ask the guys from Thursdays to make some challengers in a wide last for the wide footed gorillas like me who still want to splurge on a great pair of boots from a great brand.
If there were a way to gauge interest that'd be awesome. I get that there might not be many of us. And it's probably partially my fault too since I started working out in barefoot footwear the last couple years.
My Nicks are absolutely the most insane boots. My Thursdays are cool. I like both. But the Nicks are wildly proper.
they do have an aura
I like all of the boots I have purchased from Thursday. Good boots and shoes for the money. For me, they have held up well. I did buy a Challenger in CF Stead leather. It's a beefy boot and I love the leather. The only problem is heel. I think the heel stack is a little too tall. It pushes me into the toe at an angle. Hopefully when they broken in better, this will go away. Never had this issue with my other boots. And, I am still waiting on my Nick's Americana boots to arrive. Thanks for the review. 20 weeks and counting on the Nicks.
I bought the Golden Brown Challengers for $289. Then darkened them with mink oil and brown Kiwi. Now they look better than any of the $500 boots.
Let’s be honest, there is no comparison. Nick’s are the best boots on earth.
And I own a pair from both companies.
Why not put all this effort into the Captain and President boots to try and take on Viberg? A horsebutt or steerhide Captain boot would be nice.
probably because they would not be able to compete with those bootmakers . just like they don’t compete with nick’s
@@justin3209it’s not that complicated.
I have always bought Timberlands, Doc Martens, Thursday boots and kind of viewed a lot of those logger Boots as a big waste of money. Well, Boy was I wrong. I was recently fortunate enough to find a $700 pair of Whites Boots on Craigslist for just $25 from a kid that lightly wore them and no longer wanted them.
After wearing them for the first time I quickly understood that not all Boots are made equal and there are levels to this Boot game. Those White’s Boots are built like tanks 😂 I have now gotten the Boot itch and will be looking to buy a pair from Whites, Nicks, Truman or Drew’s.
Great comparison! Review Canada West next for your Canuck fans
Yes please!!
Are you rocking the Ojai chore coat? Love that one, I have it in navy and tobacco but really wish they would bring back the olive
Great video! Black Label looks awesome, even more so for the price. :)
Black label looks like my opportunity to try horse hide...
It is worth noting that Nick's also uses Horween Chromexel and veg-tan, ie slightly fancy leathers. I also believe that they cut their leathers 2,5-3,5mm, rather than 2-2,5 like black label.
I'm in England, bought Thursday boots, the shadow grey waxed suede Chelsea, absolute garbage, stitching coming apart after a few wears, my cobbler repaired them, he said they were trash. Convinced most RUclipsrs sponsored by Thursday, I'll stick with proven UK brands like Loake 1880, Crockett and Jones and Trickers in the future.
Where is the "build your own" section for the Challenger? Checking their website I can only see the premade batches.
no it's the Nicks boots where you can build your own, not Thursday
@@Stridewise Ahhhh right, I got confused by the site layout, it's been a crazy morning, cheers for the clarification!
I need to get back to the Thursday store in Manhattan. I ordered the Diplomat with the lug sole and they just don’t look good to me. I really need to get in to try their other options with the lug sole for winter
I own Thursdays and Nick's. Captains and short Travelers.
There is no comparison. Thursdays are decent "dress boots". Nick's are real boots.
I have the Thursday challenger and I really want to know if the heel is glued? The 180 stitch down is not 270 so is the other half glued, if it is I wonder how long it will last
You can see the nail in the cutaway at the 9:16 mark.. otherwise cut yours in half and find out! Give Rose Anvil a run for his money
The “urban logger” style doesn’t do it for me, but if they do the Thunder in the black label leathers, I will absolutely be snagging a pair 🤌
I own two pairs of Nicks and love them. I 100% will continue to support USA made boots. That being said, I hope that Nicks’ sales stay strong so they don’t reduce their quality to compete with Mexico.
Please do a video on Drews and document their history.
Nick's vs Thursday's? Nicks boots for the easy win.
Bought the Whiskey challengers, now I’m considering the stone ramblers 😂 HELP
Ok but what about the clicking and QC on the Thursday 👀
wanted the full video from the interview to the co-founder, need more tech info from the company
Time to visit Rose Anvil
from my experience, celastic stiffeners are harder to break in then leather. these boots are a really good value but I would personally choose drews boots because i think a logger boot looks better with a taller toe box
Super video Nick!!! FWIW, your photo of Truman boots labeled stone rambler actually looks like coach rambler (with the more orange hues). Sorry to nitpick, but that's what boot nerds do, lol.🤪
nooo i didn't leave 'stone' onscreen did i? god damn it
Thursdays are the Sketchers of boots
they’re like a non boot person’s idea of a good boot
@@justin3209which is exactly the market they target tbf
That Thursday Last is not designed for such a tall heel. The angle of the heel stack looks like a door stop. Terrible.
Curious is Thursday makes a low block heel version of the black label collection.
i think i heard they were going to, but maybe they were just talking about that new "Thunder" boot, it has all the specs of the black label boots except the fancy leathers so it's not in that collection
@ oh yea, I forgot. Their catalog got enormous. Though that boot had like a mini logger heel.
Love what Thursday is doing to bring the price down, but gotta support USA made all the way
I would love to see the black label in the captain style. Just the standard looking city boot built with the leather insole and midsole and none of the synthetic shit inside.
Thank you. Always enjoy watching your videos. c:
8:14 that double row stitching in the toe on the left got a bit rough...
Wish you would do a whole video on the Txtures boot lineup. From your recommendation, I bought a pair and absolutely love them. The for and finish is perfect and they look like a dress boot that can dig holes with the best of the best construction style boots!!!
if you wanna come to new york i'll interview you for the channel!
I’m curious to see what other models Thursday will (possibly?) add to the Black Label Collection. Will they expand or just try to take on the more rugged type of boots (rather than a British or dressier style.) Also WTF is with that Showtime boot and how have they not been sent a cease and desist?
Oh you mean the Nike looking one…I mean the Thursday with the long Y. lol.
Beyond a cease and desist not already happening the colors and that logo on that version just make them look like some weird cheap knockoff. Whoever designed that should be fired.
The relief cut midsole bothers me for a couple of reasons, longevity, noise, and comfort being the key points. Otherwise nice looking boots but not feeling em for the fab shop environment.
No idea what they were thinking with the heel. There is no history for this sloped heel. They really need to get their act together...
Great review.
No comparison! Buy within your budget and be happy.
That Challenger is a stupid looking boot but the Journeyman is nice.
That Truman was coach rambler.
The lack of proper last development, arch support, and still cutting corners for safety make this a non starter. And at the price and not MiUS i can get quality boots from Bordon, Parkhurst, Blkbrd, or Grant Stone that are all better in every respect. Thursday is great for a sneaker head who needs a nice pair of boots. Nothing else, regardless of the sponsored opinions shared here.
The only thing I don’t like is the heal on the challenger boots. 🥾uncomfortable 😅
Nice view but as usual these PNW comments are annoying. Can't look at anything Thursday without people telling you that you're feet are going to spontaneously combust.
I'm sorry, I just CANNOT buy a pair of logging boots. I'm from the NW, Oregon to be specific. My Great Grandfather lost his life logging, and his sons (my grandfather and great uncles) were all loggers too. I'd feel like such a poser wearing these..
Ya lost me with grooves in the insole if you wanted beefy just stick with beefy this will be a fail point on the boots
I wonder if that's true!
@Stridewise I'm sure if we give it 6 months we will see reviews and see if it happens
How much is Thursday paying for this shill job?
Nice.
No wide size. Can't buy them.
Probably an already wider last. Let's just give em a try!
yeah Nicks definitely wins with widths
I have many pairs of boots. But not one with those type of heels. They look straight out of a burlesque dancer’s footwear. They look very feminine.
lol. Funny how these boot influencers never review boots unless they are sent to them.
I mean that’s pretty normal in the “review” space. Not everyone does that but the most popular and well connected ones for sure
hey man my last review was on Viberg and I paid full price for _both_ pairs
@@SteelKreel you’re right. But just shows that you can’t trust or value their opinion.
@@Stridewise well good for you! Out of hundreds of sponsored videos and paid reviews from brands you finally bought a pair yourself.
@@AmericanPieLightsOut yay good for me!!!!!!
Finally , took you a while.
YOU'RE WELCOME
I don’t get the need for high heels. Doctors always tell women how bad high heels are for them. Yet, it seems to spreading in men’s wear.
Women's heels don't have arch support like boots do
Research the need for “high heels” your ignorance is showing
Kind of an Apple vs orange argument comparing a 2 inch woodsman or block heel to a 4-6 inch spike
they look like trash. hard pass
@@justin3209 🤷🏻♂️
Great review.