How Reddit Shut Down the Most Violent School in America: Elan School
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Thanks for the great vid. ❤️
love this! thank you for the quality content
It’s different instead of waiting for Thursday or Friday. But I’m an adult and I can cope with it. Thank you for putting out content for us.
It’s different instead of waiting for Thursday or Friday. But I’m an adult and I can cope with it. Thank you for putting out content for us.
It’s different instead of waiting for Thursday or Friday. But I’m an adult and I can cope with it. Thank you for putting out content for us.
Believe it or not Elan is still around, they just rebranded as Ironwood in Maine. It's just like Elan, a building in the middle of no where and there are tracking dogs outside just in case of children trying to run away. I don't know what the abuse it exactly there but I know there is abuse. If you guys can help Hailey Elizabeth see this that would be great ❤
Carrabassett Valley area in Maine is a mysterious place...
what the hell, why does it still exist???
Shocking. Completely shocking. Not surprising, unfortunately, but shocking.
This just shows that children’s right aren’t being protected in developed countries today and it isn’t being taken seriously.. parents should not be able to sign away their children to places like these.
I hope that someone talks about this and that they can get out of there.. it's terrible that people still have to go through this.
the fact that 2 of the 3 kids who escaped got killed right after is so heartbreaking and insane . this world is so messed up.
literally got sa'd and killed right after.. so sick
Thisss!!!!! It genuinely makes me so mad.
So sick my heart literally sank, I thought the story couldn’t get worse.
The boy wanted help and was shot death… the girl wanted help and got SA and then strangled to death… what kind of sick world dow we life in😞 may all the victims Rest In Peace🥀
Wait whaytt ???!! Wthhh
One time, at a Christian daycare, we were told to come inside and I said "no". I stood where I was- no reason just being a kid testing the limits. My mother and the woman who owned the home run daycare drug me inside and ripped my pants down. Faced my bare bottom to the window and other children. Yelled obscenities at me as they beat my behind. Then the woman instructed my mother to leave me there crying alone, still indecent. It seems like older generations thought breaking a child's spirit and will was the way to discipline. The crazy thing is, I have never laid a hand on my child and they are more responsible and listening than I ever ended up being.
I was a child of the 90's and it's insane the kind of shit that my parents did to me. I remember being so proud of getting up early and I made this picnic in the middle of the living room for my family. I had made sandwiches and lemonade and had it all set out neatly. My parents were furious. My dad ripped the blanket off the ground, the food went everywhere. My mom beat me over the head with one of the plates and it cut my head (first time I had seen that much blood come out of myself) and my dad beat me for a good half hour with a belt. I then had to clean the mess up while still in agonizing pain and my head dripping with blood. I'm 34 and I still have nightmares about that. Still have no clue why they were angry about it. I tried to confront them years later after I realized the amount of gaslighting they did, but they deny doing anything at all. They act as if nothing ever happened or I'm 'exaggerating'. It was 'normal' back then to beat the shit out of your child so they felt no remorse. To them, it was just another day.
I remember times my mother threatened to whoop me in front of everyone. That's outright abuse and nobody can convince me otherwise. You shouldn't be allowed to hit your kids for any reason.
@@GummyDinosaursify WTF!!
@@GummyDinosaursify 😅
@@GummyDinosaursify you
The older generations are always calling us "soft" then turn around and support this shit
It's almost like they're abusive pieces of shit.
Honestly I'd rather be "soft" than be an 4ssh0l3
That's because a lot of older people struggle to accept that the world they grew up in has gone. They either don't have the coping skills or were not allowed the independence necessary to adapt and evolve. If they were able to practise some self reflection then they would realise that a lot of what they experienced from the "good old days" was actually really shitty and bad.
@@aelinorholloway3669 Like a sort of Stockholm syndrome for a bygone era and their earlier years?
They’ll feel differently if they fall into an elder abuse situation later.
I went to this "school". I'm now 44 years old and it still haunts me. Those of us that attended Elan went through a special kind of hell.
What happened to you there what did you parents say?
Omg how did you leave? Waited until the school shut down? How did your parents react and how are you now?
@@strawberrykiwiii The "students" can choose leave once they turn 18
@@whoopsie890 oh wow..
@@whoopsie890 unless the program convinces a court to keep them there longer depending how they went there in the first place (sometimes courts or hospitals divert ppl there, though usually it's just defrauding the parents)
the guy that escapes and was shot dead is just so sad, he must have felt so hopeful escaping. may he be at peace now.
it’s the same with the girl who almost escaped :(
@@areyoulostbabygorl231 I feel for her the most because she had to endure repeated abuse before her death, which was likely protracted due to the nature of it (strangulation). May she also rest in peace
@@jenl7094 i want terrible things to happen to him for doing that to her. that was deplorable and completely selfish. why is humanity so fucking evil and careless? people don't need to be self-absorbed pieces of shit to "survive", you just need to be assertive sometimes. what the hell is so hard to understand about that?! having power and control over people won't truly make one happy. complete isolation to all people like that truck driver.
@@areyoulostbabygorl231 super off topic....but are you a Sixteen Leo fan babygorl?? 🤣
@@oobiedoobie1204 read the room….
i’m glad this generation is more “sensitive” than the ones before them. adults are incredibly sick and cruel to children, they’re the most vulnerable group of people in the world and they’re constantly abused.
Not so fun fact.
When xrays became more commonplace doctors thought there was an unknown childhood disease that affected the bones.
Why?
Because so many children were abused.
Theres a positive to be a more sensitive individual but its often ignored.
I hate that this generation is seen as soft for wanting to bring awareness and stop systems of abuse and neglect🙄
@@retrogirl2498 literally, i wouldn’t even call it “soft” it’s just being a decent human being which is something older psychotic generations can’t comprehend
And yet after all of this people still think kids need a beating to get them to behave.. it's abuse! Not a way to get kids to behave and be the "perfect person"
My best friend was sent to a “school” like this in Arizona (we were from Pennsylvania so this was very far away) in the early 2000s she ran away multiple times only to get sent back each time she ended up getting pregnant and eventually ended her own life by the age of 22 from all the unresolved trauma. She also came from a “wealthy” “privileged” family that apparently couldn’t be bothered to get her actual help. She was beautiful smart and creative. Rest in peace Jennifer 🤍🌻
How far would she make it before getting recaptured?
Please expose the name of this “school”. Nobody should remain silent about these things.
@@jpmediaproable you would be surprised. There are probably hundreds of these places operating all around the US. There are/were a few documentaries on Netflix about Elan and other schools like this as well as a movie that is based on a story of a girl who's parents sent her to a "school" for being gay, but it is really just someone else's house in a different state. The family runs the "school" under the same loopholes that Elan operated under. You can also look into Turn Around Ranch (promoted by Dr. Phil) which is another troubled teen program
@@chillchica9626 Damn you Dr. Phil! (He's not a nice man I've heard.)
@@chillchica9626 Didn’t Paris Hilton come out about a similar experience?
Imagine the joy of escaping this hell school only to be treated worse in the real world
these kids didnt deserve all of that... nobody actually deserves. This shows how much crazy shit is out there in the world
The world is just so fucked up
Speaks volumes about the real world, most people already treat each other the same way people were treated in Elan... 0_0
this shits why im antinatalist and give 0 fucks what anyone has to say against it. and no im not a defeatist or nihilist, i strive to make shit better- step one by not subjecting more children to this fucking shit to compete for resources and fall through the gaps
I kinda feel like this comment shows you do not fully grasp the horrors of this school
How could these parents have went months or years without speaking with their children???? I talked to my kids pretty much hourly when they were teens. This school is horrific but there is also something seriously wrong with these parents.
Remember, most of the kids were sent there by parents who were abusive themselves and the cause of their child acting out. They were probably glad to not have to deal with the kid while they were gone.
They're brainwashed by the schools.
Yeah the boarding school its obviously at fault but this parents can´t fake innocence either, it´s straight up neglect not visiting your kids in person for years, if they have even bother a little bit they could have seen eaisly how bruise, skinny and traumatice they were
@@marcelalopez9053 the problem with the school system is that all parents trust all teachers unconditionally
Most of the parents were/are also abusive. There's a lot of people who never should have been parents, and they were happy to pretend their child didn't exist, since it was no longer their "problem". I truly believe that no loving parent would ever send their child to some kind of punishment based school or boot camp.
the fact that joe died actually pisses me off. he should’ve endured the same torture he was allowing or rotted in jail. any students should honestly have been allowed free therapy bc nobody should ever have to go thru that alone and have another money obstacle in the way. they deserved the treatment they thought they were gonna get in the beginning.
Well at least he’s in hell
And you would inflict it on him, making you exactly what he is, and then someone could do it to you, and they're what you are, and on and on and on in the cycle of violence. Just like someone probably committed violence against him and thought, "this is ok because...." Brilliant. 🙄
it's for the best.. in the elan school webtoon the person who went to elan school actually saw him during his final days.. he wasn't looking too good and never spoke.. was just on his chair.. i think the webtoon said something about "hes in his own hell now"
He should have rotted in jail, not lived high on the hog off of the money he made abusing children
@@andrewthetruth he at least should serve jail sentence or death penalty it's not justice jusf the law
I'm autistic and I cannot imagine having to go through this. It already kind of feels like torture just having to exist in a world that wasn't built for you... but then to have to go through actual torture simply for having a brain that works differently??? I already know I wouldn't make it at a "school" like this... And the worst part is that a lot of "therapies" still exist like this today for autistic people and it's become kind of normalized to put autistic ppl through things like shock therapy in order to "correct our brains" .... I cannot fathom why the world hates us so much to do things like this.
They just don’t understand that autism is where our brains work stronger in some areas and weaker in some areas. It’s not you, they really need to know this
Welcome to my world
@@Trapcousindestroyer couldn’t have said it better myself. I’m autistic too and I agree wholeheartedly. I hope we are treated better in the future and we can be recognized as people someday. Cheers and have a day!
@@lambiegabby4055 aww thank you, you too ❤️
I, myself, am not autistic, but I do have a few close friends that are. I honestly can't understand why so much hatred is being directed to you guys. You all are no less human than we are, and it's kinda depressing that some people don't seem to realize that. I apologize if I've said something wrong here without realizing it, but I just want you guys to know that there is nothing 'wrong' with you, and that many others, including myself, are willing to stand with you. Stay safe out there!
Something tells me the dude "faking headaches" and died of an aneuryism probably wasnt faking headaches
The aneurysm was from a trauma to his brain that’s why he was seizing and then he was still continually beat.. but yeah he likely was not faking the headaches at all.
holy shit
what is wrong with society
I spent 36 months at this school.
My friend ran away and was brutally murdered,
another one of my friends was sexually assaulted multiple times by another student and never even got proper hospital care, it was never reported to the authorities, in fact it was always considered "consensual" even though 13 and 14-year-olds could not consent especially in that type of environment.
The boxing rings, the forced cleaning nonstop, the sleep deprivation, the nonstop verbal and emotional abuse.
I'm 46 years old and I know that I've lost a big chunk of who I was, who I could've been.
I mourn for that little girl every single day
We lost three of our brothers and sisters that were in that documentary
Within the year after it was completed or right before
We've lost so many of our brothers and sisters ...
Pete Rowe
Tania Merette willard
Marc Rosenberg
Geoffrey Gottlieb
Marty Kruglik
Missy Esty
*Clair Woodman
*edit to add her name
Staff who have gotten away with the abuse
So many names…
** The actual education teachers were real certified teachers, they only came for a few hours a day then they left,
it was the staff and the directors who had no certification.
I remember all of the young people that came to work there , college aged,
and it was so overwhelming for them that they left quickly
Oh my gosh. Are you alright?
This is so heartbreaking 😢 I had no idea this stuff even went on. I'm
So sorry ❤
this is saddening, i am so sorry you had to endure all that, all of the students
Id like to add a name to your list
Clare Woodman
The most evil woman I have ever met. She tortured me &my friends in unspeakable ways &clearly enjoyed doing so. None of these monsters have faced any accountability whatsoever for what they did to us. So many lives destroyed...
You are so strong I’m so sorry you went through this, i hope you are healing and doing well now
I was there for 36 months. I am IN SHOCK. I am a subscriber and I've watched your videos for a long time. The screaming in the beginning of this video went on ALL DAY LONG. We woke up and got screamed at, did it all day long, it literally broke my brain. So much anger, humiliation, hostility, violence, but the worst of it was the loneliness. No family, parents, smiling, hugging, no love, no compassion, no freedom to be yourself, no hobbies, no connection to the real world.
@13:00 Omg YOU JUST SHOWED MY PICTURE. That was me being silly with the big yellow towel on my head!!! We were allowed to have a disposable camera that day because we had been canoing. They always gave us cameras when we went out and did "fun activities". That way we would be smiling and happy in the photos. They could pass those on and show our families how happy we are. I had NO CLUE what a deeply sick and manipulative world of lies was being g fed to my parents. It was criminal.
@20:06 YOU JUST SHOWED ANOTHER PHOTO OF ME. it was a picture of three girls sitting on a couch smiling. I was all the way on the left. WOW, where did you find these!?!? The years I was there was 1997-2000.
i am so sorry you had to go through that and i hope you are in a better place today
i hope ur doing well
I’m so sorry for what you went through.If your comfortable with answering how did your parents react when/if you told them about what was really going on?
I’m so sorry you had to go through this and I hope you’re doing ok
That is such a wild coincidence that the pictures were in this video, but I’m not sure how many materials there are showing the insides. Hopefully you’ve been able to heal 💞
I started crying when I really thought about how one of the escapees got sexually assaulted and then murdered. She experienced an actual hell for the last years of her life. Everyone in her life failed her. It’s so cruel and makes me so angry and sad.
I fucking lost it at that part I couldn't continue the video anymore
So horriffic
For me it was when that one kid's sister said something along the lines of "I thought he'd come home. He came home, alright. In a box." I teared up and felt chills down my spine at that point. What a sick place.
I just don’t understand how someone could be such a cruel, disgusting and horrible person. At that point you aren’t human, you’re a disgrace.
😊B b
not gonna lie I clicked this kinda mindlessly thinking it was a full blown documentary, and my jaw dropped when you popped on the screen! the intro was amazing! so excited to watch
Same
Same here lol, when she started talking I was like "Oh! It's her!"
Same here this is so well done Hailey’s grown so much
17:33 that description would def suck my mom in. That is exactly how she thinks of me
Same 🤣
When I was in 7th grade I was a pretty good kid but I skipped school once and my grandma who had adopted me found out I was dating another girl and got sent to a “group home” and it was extremely abusive. I was surprised at school by the police who took me there. I would have never escalated past skipping school as I liked school and regretted doing it. The group home was religious but it did not make me straight either. Because of the trauma of the home(s) I ended up using drugs and acting out and running away. I asked to be placed in foster care and went to a foster home where I was finally loved and cared for and my grades went back up and I wanted them to trust me so I maintained good behavior. I only recently realized how harmful and traumatic this experience was.
I'm so sorry you had to experience that
It’s crazy how people think that is okay. I’m sorry you had to go through that and I’m glad you’re in a better situation now.
I am so proud of you for overcoming these struggles🤍
I’m so sorry you went through that. Sending you love ❤️
I just wanted to say I didn’t even expect anyone to reply to my comment and your replies are so kind❤️Thank you
Wow, the ppl who escaped got killed by others is crazy to me. They ran from trouble and went and got killed.
It's so wild and sad
Did they get killed by staff/other students from the school or just random people? I haven't finished watching the video and i've seen a lot of comments talking about this
The whole area is full of psychos
@@astridramirez558 not sure if u still want to know but a guy got killed with a gun by random guy he met and a girl got killed by a truck driver (she ride on it i guess?)
@@shezahmoy5232 she was sexually assaulted wtf
I hate how these parents dont know "why" their kid misbehaved. They probably abused their kid or mistreated them anyway, then sent their kid off to be beatened or killed.
Honestly i have no empathy or sympathy for parents who send their kid to boarding schools. Taking your kid to therapy and working with them has more of a chance to heal them than sending them off like a dog.
FACTS
The troubled teen industry is a dark toxic place, a safe place for adults with little to no background in child care can use and abuse these kids however they see fit.
I was sent to Logan River Academy back in 2016 to 2017, it was the equivalent of an asylum with kids trying to end their lives constantly or trying to run away. It was meant to be a transitional place for those getting ready to return home after previous stays at institutions, but it turned into a psychiatric ward since the school started accepting any and all kids, regardless of their mental states.
Where the hell was this?
I’m sorry for what you’ve been through I hope you’re healing well
Mannnn schools like these are crazy. I know Paris Hilton is raising awareness to the one she was sent to and was abused really bad bim glad more ppl are coming forward and putting these schools on blast. Thank you for raising awareness to this
What school did PH go to?
@@jenl7094 provo canyon in Utah!
Wasn’t that one of those outdoor reform programs vs a school per se?
yeah a lot of the Utah "wilderness camps" are horrible and abusive
@@laurenk8096 no, I just looked it up and read an article giving a brief history and former students detailing the abuse they suffered there. It’s a residential facility perpetrating as a treatment center and school, but it has a long history of allegations of physical, mental and sexual abuse. It’s horrible.
My Dad was sent to a school like this in the 70’s. It messed him up so bad. He ended up with horrible ptsd and unable to shake his addiction, and spent my whole life in and out of prison. He passed several years ago. Im glad he finally found his peace. These places are actual hell on earth.
It’s just terrible but also I’m thinking in past decades people didn’t understand mental illnesses or addiction or even normal developmental growth it’s normal for kids to rebel or separate from their family etc
@@oooh19
Abused kids tend to rebel super hard.
I was sent to a place like this as a kid. It didn't make me a "better" person. It only made me more violent and I started hurting a lot more people than I would have otherwise. I eventually corrected myself but it wasn't from any "help" anyone ever gave me.
i’m so sorry you experienced that. Nobody deserves that. Especially as a kid.. i’m glad you corrected yourself but you shouldn’t have to do it alone but you should of never gone to a place like that😞. I hope you’re doing better and you’re thriving!! You deserve that at least
I'm so sorry to hear that.
But, at the same time, I'm happy to hear that you managed to change, despite the horrible stuff that has happened to you. You can be really proud of yourself for that.
i’m glad you’re talking about this, more people need to know how dark this school and the whole “troubled teen” program is
The "troubled teen" industry is literally paid, legalized child abuse on a mass scale. My heart aches for all of the kids who have been abused in these programs.
I went to one at 16 ans it was horrible. I had issues, I did drugs, hung out with older guys, tanaway and my parents had enough. It was a "wilderness" program. When we got in trouble we would have week long "silence" periods where we couldn't speak. Most of the time we were cold, hungry, wet and sick. We would have to hike for miles daily for no reason at all, we'd be humiliated, have to go to the bathroom in front of eachother and even just stand on a tree stump for hours and hours, one of the other girls stood on a log one time for 15 hours. I was sent to "isolation" a few times which is just a separate tent where youre not even given a sleeping bag. I was there for 4 months and it was pure hell. I wouldn't recommend sending any child to any place like this.
@@hardyquinn9442 my friend went to one of those places, she described it exactly like that, she told me that’s what that old song “Peaches” was about cuz y’all ate a lot of canned peaches, canned foods on yr “hikes”. I’m rly sorry. I’ve been to a lot of bad programs. I been thru Phoenix House after they “cleaned up” and they were still doing signs and GM’s and I had to “sweep the sun off the floor” one day as punishment for verbal argument w another patient, and all that bull$h!t- but nothing like what you had to endure. Ppl should be in prison for this, the ppl left that were complicit.
Do ppl kno what this Michael guy is up to now cuz he totally seems like the type to weasel his way back into the industry in some capacity.
Again, I’m so sorry and angry for you at the same time. You didn’t deserve that. I hope hope hope yr life is peaceful and sweet.
I was far from a troubled teen and I remember as a 90s kid when people/movies joke about reform school I just hated it. A person (in my mind, as a child… a poor child now that I’m an adult) is struggling to live well and your solution is to isolate and punish them? It’s insane. It’s just insane
@@hardyquinn9442 that's like the one I was sent to. Was it run by the challenger foundation by any chance. Those pukes never made me "better", only angrier.
I'm 51 and literally crying and shaking hearing this horrific case. My heart is breaking for all of these children who endured this abuse. I thank God I had a wonderful childhood and parents who truly protected me. I always knew how blessed I was. Now I'm feeling it more. I wish I could hug all of these victims. ❤❤❤
I know right. I had such a great childhood and I'm so close to my dad. My mom and I never got along but I didn't go through things like these kids did. This is so heartbreaking. I always felt loved and protected too. My parents never would have thrown me in some facility. Also.. irrelevant but I'm glad to see your age actually, I thought I was out of place at 38 because all her viewers seem to be really young lol but I adore her and her content. She reminds me of my daughter too lol.
@@Witchygirl22 I’m 33, don’t worry! Us adultier adults just tend not to comment as much lol
@@Witchygirl22 also 33 here I know what you mean at times I wonder like am I the oldest in this group glad to see I’m not alone. I learned about this “school” probably a good 8 months ago and when I did it broke my heart completely and the scary thought is I could’ve been one of those kids only because my mom didn’t understand me being in the emo community and she believed the stigma behind it but thankfully I wasn’t sent anywhere altho I did spend some time in an institution for the medically disabled and that place was horrible I believe it’s shut down now this was back in the 90s thankfully I had a PT therapist who wasn’t apart of the place and she truly cared and would spend all day making sure I was well taken care of. Sadly a lot of the kids there were treated horrible and nothing could really be done because there wasn’t any parents around and they always knew when the state would be coming sorry for the long post I promise I’m done
I'm 56 and left a 1/2 a Novel for a comment. And like you TERA Cunningham, I had tears in my eyes as I listened. I didn't have the best childhood but compared to what these precious children went through.... Mine was a day at the beach. To know the sadistic POS's got paid to literally abuse children is mind-blowing! I mentioned in my comment that discipline was different for us older ppl... The '60s, '70s and part of the '80s... what we'd call abuse nowadays was normal back then. It was accepted. In school, teachers were allowed to spank us.... I got the big thick paddle board with holes in it a couple times. And the Teachers/Principles had our parents' blessings to spank us if we did wrong. But after the '90s... I don't know how any of this was accepted by ANYBODY! It was ABUSE! No 2 ways about it. And I feel like the "teachers" or "caregivers" at this HELL HOLE enjoyed giving and watching the abuse happen. Like BDSM or S&M or just plain sadisticness. They "got off" watching and dishing it out. They enjoyed it, IMO.
@@b4ubcomeold definitely the guy who was talking about corporal punishment in this video enjoyed it, you could see it in his eyes 🤮🤮🤮🤮
I get anxious hearing people screaming like that when I'm not even the target, I can't fucking imagine having to stand there and just take that without giving any kind of reaction or response. That poor girl who had the panic attack broke my fucking heart and really hit me so hard because I could see myself in her.
I was almost sent to one of these schools when I was a teen. I was severely depressed and my “acting out” was based around hurting myself. The school counselor kept trying to push one of these schools to “help” because the school couldn’t. My parents luckily refused and decided actual therapy and medication was the way to help. I’m so thankful they didn’t give up on me just because I made their lives complicated. I 100% believe that if I went to one of these “treatment programs” would have pushed me over the edge. This was in 2005. These programs still exist and it’s terrifying.
I feel like that counselor should not have been a counselor. Or at the very least, reported.
This is horrific. I can't even imagine the trauma this "school" has brought to so many people. I truly hope they can find some type of peace and happiness.
There's a docu from real people who were students and some of them are happy they went. Very interesting, I think it's called Real Life True Stories Elan School, should pull it up.
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@@PINKFONG2011 reminds me of ppl loving their abusers. Probably convinced themselves it was needed to ease the pain they went through
@@PINKFONG2011 Stockholm
@@PINKFONG2011 if you have to point to individual cases to go "see? these students liked the school" and can't go "90% of students loved this school", then you're cherrypicking data and are lying by omission.
I was in one of these programs as a kid. My dad was in and out of his life when it was convenient for him, having all kinds of affairs and extra-marital kids in the process. He was a raging alcoholic and couldn’t care less about anyone but himself. My mom is very mentally ill, and was extremely verbally/emotionally/physically abusive. All of those factors combined turned me into a very manically depressed teenager. When I was 16 I was woken up at 4am to two strangers in my room demanding that I take my pajamas off and change (in front of them) into my clothes. They grabbed my arms, put me in a car, and drove me to the airport. I was flown from Detroit to Las Vegas, then took another four and a half hour car ride into the desert to a town too small to even be on a map. There was a “school” there, that ended up being my home for the next 8 months. That was eleven years ago and I still have PTSD from the things that happened there. Every single one of these things should be burned to the ground and the owners imprisoned.
This is horrible... We're so glad you got out of this situation and it must have been or still is overwhelming, you sharing your story helps bring awareness and consolidation to others who feel hopeless, thank you
OMG.. I'm crying. I have no words.. sending you strength and hope for a life without PTSD (i have it too, but from war.. when I was 14-17). Hugs 🤗🌷
That's exactly what happened to my friend except she was flown to Samoa.
Whatever happened after that?
@@MASTEROFEVIL I came home to the same toxic, abusive environment I left from. Less than three months after coming back my mom kicked me out of the house (I was 16 at the time). A family of a mutual friend took me in and completely changed my life. Helped me heal, helped me get a job and car, helped teach me what real family and real love looked like. Now ten years after the fact, I have a family of my own (partner and two beautiful girls). Neither one of my parents has reached out or even made some kind of attempt to be in my life and I hope it stays that way. It took years to overcome the panic attacks and anxiety. They went from being nearly daily, down to weekly, to now only if I’m completely overwhelmed or get caught off guard by very specific triggers. While I love my life and I’m grateful every day for what and who I have, I’ll never be the same.
while i was watching this i kept thinking “there must be a way to survive there” but you just kept bringing up more ways to break the children there and i wouldn’t lasted a month before the psychotic break killed me.
how horrific. indescribably horrific.
There were people who did survives there. Who did quite well actually. They were on weekend trips, they went home to visit their parents, they had a lot of freedom and privileges, but it came at a cost. You do not get these privileges without severely abusing and mistreating the other kids
@@gurlfiend76 honestly I can't even blame them. I might have been willing to do horrible things if it meant my freedom and being able to see my family. It the fault of the adults for creating an environment that rewards this abusive behavior.
I gotta be honest. The whole "they made it seem nice" thing is bull. It was always pretty obvious what this place was. It was a threat to other kids when my mom was young. Every parent involved should be sent to a camp just the same.
Also I can't believe that none of the parents that couldn't communicate with their children never went to check on them to see if they were alright.
oh my god, the stories about the escapees really hit hard, to get out after going through all that abuse and then have no one believe you and/or be killed afterward... it made me feel nauseous
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after bhad baby and Paris Hilton told their stories and then the stories about indigenous children's experience.. it's horrible what we do and have done to children
Except the fact that it takes Paris Hilton to get anyone to listen and care
What happened too Bhad Bhabie and Paris Hilton ?
@@venicebby777 Paris Hilton’s parents set up a fake kidnapping to take her to a school for troubled teens. Bhad Baby was sent to the Ranch by Dr Phil, which was an abusive program.
@@venicebby777 they were sent to similar homes like this. Bhad baby was sent to Dr Phil’s ranch which was a “troubled teen” place
I’m not sure about Paris tho
@@venicebby777 paris hilton went to 4 different 'troubled teen' programmes. She talked about it in her documentary; she experienced abuse, including forced medication, solitary confinement and physical punishments. Her claims have been corroborated by other people who went to the same facilities. She has campaigned for these places to be closed down and outlawed.
I know the “troubled teen” industry has been exposed a lot in recent years but this really disgusts me. Most of these kids were let down by numerous adults before they even entered this “school”. Idk how many parents watch Hailey’s videos but I’m just saying, if you’re kid seems to be having issues DO NOT send them to “schools” like this. People who will actually help this situation won’t tell you to pay them so you don’t have to see your kid for years, it’s basically a scam. You pay them and they get free labor to exploit and abuse.
The fact that you could be punished for reading, SMILING AND EVEN LAUGHING is INSANE. I cant imagine ever being there
I'm still stuck on needing SIX people to say it's ok to go pee! Wtf
i think if a school like this is actually safe to attend to and works, then it shouldnt have to be in the middle of absolutely fucking nowhere
When that boy was killed, they had a discipline called “ the ring “ and it’s where the kids would create a circle around 2 people a “bully” and a “hero” usually the bully got the shit beat out of them, with several rounds with several students. My mom went to elan…. It’s scary seeing it.
what would the hero do what what did the bully usually do to deserve it?
@@kiarara7014 Usually the bully had broken the "rules" of Elan School (in reality, it could've been for no reason at all), and I'm guessing the Hero is a Strength or randomly chosen out of the circle.
@@hotel_arcadia wow
@@kiarara7014 what I essentially remember from Nexpo’s documentary.
Bully’s are against the school. Trying to destroy the rules and structure. The ‘hero essentially is there to ‘fight back against the bully, to break their spirit and ‘keep peace’
Hey. Never went to this school but I have a similar experience. So I have ADHD and I was unmedicated for around 8 years in my childhood. Instead of I don’t know…actually getting me help my mother used to lock me in the garage (there was absolutely nothing to do in there and if there was something she’d take it out). And now that I’m an adult I literally only want an apology from my mother because obviously locking up your special needs kid because YOU don’t want to deal with them is wrong. She refuses to give me that and instead hits me with “I was depressed” “That time was SO hard for me.” Etc. There are evil people in this world.
i hope you’re doing okay xx
This may be doing the same, but maybe tough to a much less extent had her lock in that same garage with nothing and leave her there for a day while telling her she did that yto you gor being "Depressed" or "having a bad day" and tell her if she likes it and questioning if she did like it by being you who she did it to, and if she STILL refuses to apologize, guess uts time to conpletele sever all ties.
As someone who lived in Maine for 10 years, it is absolutely not surprising to me that something like this happened. Maine is one of those states people forget about. I will tell you, that was the most horrific, twisted place I have ever lived. The small town life there means drugs, assault, and TONS unreported criminal activity. -from experience
True but like Detroit
the fact that i have been doing all this research and listening to stories from people in wilderness therapies and boarding schools anything related to the troubled teen program and now you release stories about the elan school is crazy on time
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Yes! It’s so crazy how similar the punishments are, it’s so sad
I had to experience a program very similar to this back in 2013. I was sent there against my will for s3lf h@arm and unaliving. My parents thought they were doing the best thing for me. I was abused there and my parents thought I was magically "healed" thereafter, although realistically I was abused and traumatized to the point I was scared sh!tless to do it again. I'm an adult now who works in the healthcare system as a therapist and it has been my mission to shut down places like this. I unfortunately confront similar places once in a while. I didn't know about this place, so it is somewhat consoling to know I was not the only one who had to do it. I used to wish I didn't survive, but I am glad I did. It nearly put my parents through bankruptcy to pay for it. Let's shut em all down!
Do you have any advice on who is usually in charge of sending people to these places from within the medical system? Like if I were to send literature to hospitals, whom should I target as the head of outside referrals for children's residential programming?
@@Anonymous-54545 I don't know exactly the right answer to this, but in my experience most places today require a referral from a medical doctor and evidence of being examined by a doctor in an emergency room. This is usually for "short term" stays, or emergent holds(72 hrs most common), but really they can hold you for however long they want to after you're transferred from a hospital to a separate inpatient facility. Like in my case, it was supposed to be for 72 hours but I was held against my will for multiple weeks and my parents had to schedule monitored visits with me with me being a child. Psychiatrists can make referrals for it, mandated reporters like psychologists, teachers, healthcare workers, social workers, direct care workers, nurses, etc. I think as a general answer my best guess would be to send literature to human relations or an intake coordinator. I usually contract with the state so I don't know exactly how it works in most hospitals, especially private ones. I hope this helps! Thanks for advocating!
@Bluejay Productions A bit of both. They know what I went through but naively think that’s all behind me. In a way it is as far as I’ve recovered but the trauma still deeply affects me.
@@sevenseatcinema I hope you and your parents have forgiven and understood each other. I would hate myself if I put my child through that.
@@mybodyisamachine We have. My parents know what happened and have apologized for it. They thought they were doing what was best for me. I think they feel really guilty about it as well, but there’s no way they could’ve known.
I spent one day, ONE DAY, in a place like this. I'll never forget that day, and I have deep sorrow for all the kids who had to spend any longer than I did in these abusive hellholes. I was incredibly lucky and my parents felt that the vibes were off and pulled me out after one day. I truly believe that that place was evil.
As a survivor of a psychiatric ward I can say that anyone claiming to offer asylum to neurodivergent individuals is lying. The ward was advertised as a place of healing and connection and they scarred me so deeply I still have nightmares to this day. I was TWELVE and they killed the girl I used to be. There is nothing we can gain by opening up about our mental illnesses other than a prison sentence. I wonder if there will ever be a world where we don’t have to live in fear.
This is absolutely horrifying and disgusting. I cannot imagine the amount of trauma you would have from a place like this
It’s like the extended Harvard Prison experiment which is something that has been deemed unethical and could NEVER be done today. These behavioral camps aren’t led by actual therapists to begin with but damn
I want to punch any person who thinks it’s okay.
It's like being in Gilead!
Also, this reminds me of the Stanford Prison experiment to some extent esp in terms of designating people to certain roles in a power hierarchy. These roles are then enforced by the culture inside this facility and you are rewarded for your compliance and disciplined for your malfeasance.
Yes!! I was thinking this.
My first thought was Scientology and their “going clear” method of making you confess all your traumas and darkest secrets with the sole intention of using it against you in the form of blackmail, humiliation, extortion etc. if you try to escape their cult.
the stanford prison experiment was recently exposed as fake. researchers encouraged the “guards” to abuse their power (providing batons, coaching cruel behavior, etc.), making the “data” unusable. in addition, some participants came out as faking hysteria and panic attacks and one said they felt “very safe,” during the experiment. not to take away from what you’re saying, it is a phenomenon that exists, just wanted to let you know that the stanford prison experiment is now considered a fraud.
I’m pretty sure that the experiment was debunked because the person who made the experiment was telling the “cops” to be more aggressive and just generally interfering with the experiment
The problem here is that the "Stanford Prison experiment" was mostly made up by the person who "did it."
There's an autobiographical webcomic (?) called Joe vs Elan School written by a guy under the pseudonym of Joe Nobody that details his journey through Elan and its far-reaching impact on his life and relationships. It's very well written and extremely heartbreaking. I would definitely recommend it to anyone who is interested.
My heart breaks for these children who didn’t deserve any of this. My only thought is “why?” there is no reason or discipline that warrants this sadistic abuse and the most fucked up part is that children are forced to abuse each other physically and verbally.
Money probably:(
Money + people are sadistic bastards. No mentally healthy adult would think that kind of treatment on literally anyone is a good thing.
I imagine a good bit of the trauma is down to having done awful things to other kids.
There's an online comic called 'Joe vs the Cult' a guys first hand experience of Elan, it's a chilling read, i very much recommend to get a good understanding of what it would have been like
I haven't watched the whole video so idk if this info is redundant lol
so i don't think she mentioned the comic, which is weird cause she definitely used images from it but w.e, maybe i missed her giving credit, but check it out!!
@@fashionvibe101 Yeah I didn't hear her giving credit either, which is very unfortunate. It's possible she put the title of it on screen at some point, but I really wish she had given proper credit.
Thank you for making me aware of this, I'll definitely read this
Link please
@@MASTEROFEVIL just look up joe vs elan:) it's the first link
I'm honestly speechless at how horrific this is. No amount of words could describe the pain and trauma these kids endured and I really hope they're all able to heal from it all. My heart goes out to all the victims of that hell hole
Made me cry a little bit . The poor kids . None of those kids deserved this
The girl who had to wear the sign and was harassed for holding a boy’s hand for 5 seconds…did he get punished as well?
No that kind of treatment only reserved for us.
@@dogperson4436 always... Always
I went to a residential “treatment” center from november 2020 to june 2021 and it was the most traumatic experience of my life. we were yelled at for asking to go to the bathroom, kids were thrown around, if you misbehaved you were put in the hallway and if you continued to misbehave you would be restrained in such a way you would throw up and pee yourself and that position had actually been known for killing people. this facility also had a unit for kids as young as 5 who were treated like animals and yelled at for being kids and wanting to play. the worst time was when one of the units was having a night where everyone was acting up and a girl managed to get in her room and tie something around her neck and no one found her until she literally almost died and had to be taken to the hospital unconscious and purple. that place was hell and is still operating
FILE A LAWSUIT ASAP!
BURN IT TO THE GROUND,
holy shit i am so sorry, i cannot believe shitholes like that still exist
as someone who physically can not handle when someone starts yelling at me i couldn’t even imaging what that was like. the whole thing is horrible.
YOU SON- I'm just kidding. I totally agree. That was terrible.
🤷♂️ Just let them yap. Idk why it bothers others so much lol
@@joevaghn457 doesn't understand how feelings work, and it shows
@@cewla3348 me? Of course I do. I just chose to not dwell on it because you’ll just get stuck.
There was another person that escaped. It was in the last stop documentary. His name was Matt Hoffman. They had the guy scrub the dumpster and when know one was looking he ran in woods met a dude that went by the name sticks that was a shell shocked Vietnam vet and he could build anything out of sticks that’s how he got the name. Anyways the dude showed him the art of living in the woods and The guy that escaped ennded up becoming an outdoor survival trainer.
When did that happen?
@@MASTEROFEVIL Source:
The closest thing I got to This “Matt Hothman” is this “Leaf killer”
@@MASTEROFEVIL It’s in the documentary The last stop
@@evagineer9165 watche “the last stop” documentary about elan its on RUclips and it’s on there
This video brought me to tears, what a nightmare. I had a gym coach in middle school who played games like this with his students - nowhere near as bad - but encouraging them to bully one another, picking favorites, praising the kids who turned into the 'hardest' of the bullies. He always claimed that he was 'teaching us about the real world' because he'd been bullied as a kid and only become successful because he'd 'toughened up'...he seemed to think the right thing to do as an authority figure was inflict the same pain on others to 'tough them up' too. He's in jail, now. I can only hope the same is true for EVERYONE WHO WORKED AT ELAN. These were CHILDREN, who could live with themselves after doing this kind of thing??
stuff like this is why im a big believer in /fan of a safe/code word with your kids, so if anything is ever wrong or theyre in an unsafe situation no one else knows but the two of you what is being communicated... couldve helped a lot of the kids (and many more today) in situations like this
When I was a teen, I became a father. My partner at that time was a teen woman who came from a big NJ Italian family, & she had some life experience with babies, while I had been adopted at birth & raised by a single gay man with not much extended family & zero kids. My daughter's mother suggested I go to some parenting classes, & my continued opinion is that parenting is the hardest & most important job anyone can have, especially if you are a single parent. I learned so much that most people never learn & it informed my parenting even to today as a grandparent. All that just to say 1 big lesson in parenting is that punishments are bad parenting & consequences are good parenting. We get consequences for our actions & choices in both good ways & bad ways, meaning if you have good choices, you get good consequences, same with bad choices, so you're not focused on punishing the bad behavior, you work on teaching kids how both sides of that work & that some consequences are even out of our hands. The other part of this idea is that consequences that we deliver to our children MUST make sense to the CHILD. One easy illustration of the idea is that if you had a toddler, & they do something you want to teach them not to do, spanking them won't make sense to the child. In the child's perception, they did something & got suddenly assaulted, & there's no inherent connection between the action & the punishment. I have used this argument to convince parents to stop hitting their kids several times.
Also, Hailey makes a lot of great, insightful points about addiction & why so many of us become addicts, but the modern rehab industry, while not this horrific, IS filled with untrained people, they are not federally regulated, so people create them to earn big $$ & create expensive nonsense like goat yoga therapy.
Your comment means so much to me. My mother is abusive and my father is a victim but also an enabler. I lived with them for 21 long years, and it was awful. They would, and still are, excusing their behaviors toward me and my siblings by saying that there isn't a way to "learn" to be a good parent, and this has been accepted by people I have reached to for help (doctors, social workers...) has a good excuse for the treatment I received, probably because the abusive turned to only be psychologic as the years went on (telling me my existence was ruining their life, threatening violence for crying, implying they would k*ll themselves because of me...) I never agreed. The fact that teen parents had the maturity and good sense to take some parenting classes but 30 years adults couldn't is just reaffirming to me that I am right. I hope you and your family have a great day
yeah this is so true... my parents beat me as a kid and all I remember is suddenly being attacked randomly when I do something. So now as an adult I am anxious and hypervigilant because i expect to be punished randomly for anything I start doing. I'm doing therapy for this and I still cannot stop it. parents who beat their kids are the worst
This literally makes beyond scared straight look like a playground. In all seriousness, it's actually so sickening how Elan was able to get away with all of this for such a long time.
It's still happening. There are about 150 of these types of schools open in the US.
@@Anonymous-54545 WHAT
HOW ARE THEY NOT SHUT DOWN YET??? WHAT TF ARE WE DOING
@@Anonymous-54545 if this was the ussr, those schools would have been burned to the ground in the 70s
The owner was constantly paying off journalists and other people that could've shed light on the situation, they advertised themselves as some fun and wholesome place so the parents didn't suspect anything, the internet was in its relative infancy and didn't have as much power as it does now. Also, disorders like autism, ADHD, and others weren't completely understood at the time.
It's awful no matter what though, yes that much is true.
This “school” shouldn’t have run for this long. It’s so weird how the parents didn’t question the school any further while paying so much. I know most parents weren’t able to speak with the kids but did none of them bother to visit and speak to their child in person. To see their “improvement”.
This is not a school, this is a torture house..
The fact that this was considered a “school” by anyone is horrific.. and it’s terrifying that it was only shut down recently.. A child dying should’ve been enough to stop it..
It literally gives me chills that two people that escaped literally entered into more traumatic events nd then were killed like that’s insane
its so hard to think abt how normal ppl went thru this, and its even harder when u think abt the drug addicts that went thru withdrawl symptoms and abuse at the same time.
that is so sad. Withdrawal is so painful on its own, then imagine going thru this? I didn’t even think about that until I read ur comment 😔
These terrible abusive parents should be held liable and put thru the same torture they put their kids thru
no, the schools administration should
The amount of adults that failed the kids that managed to get out is... Scary. It makes you rethink before asking for any help. My older brothers always tell me to never look vulnerable when asking for help, I'm staarting to see whta they mean.
‘It’s unfair to say nobody benefitted from this’ no I think it’s totally fair. Addiction recovery is always a good thing, sure, but it was only (allegedly in the video) a couple of kids who achieved that, and I’m almost certain they left with a different set of issues than they had when they entered. The abuse and torture of dozens of children isn’t remotely justified just because it got the desired results in a couple of them.
Yep
This reminds me of Bhad Bhabie’s experience in school for troubled kids. I don’t want to generalize things, but it really got me wonder how many schools like these are getting away with it cuz they don’t get any spotlight.
There's a lot. Look up Preacher Boys Trouble Teens and there are at least two videos about two different schools, with religious ties that are similar to Elan.
And their not overseen or regulated either
@@katelynbrown98 not surprised there’s religious ties..
Not even close
Too many to count, often flying under the radar due to all the renames they've gone through over the years.
I live a couple hours away from the Elan School. I've pulled up to it a couple times to check the place out since it's abandoned, but I can never bring myself to get out of the car. Something about just looking at the building fills me with so much dread and uneasiness, knowing about all the pain that went on there. I can't imagine what it was like actually going to this place when it was functioning. I hope everyone who did is able to find peace, and I hope those who never lived to see life after Elan are in a much better place now.
I dont understand how these kids went back to live with their parents. I would have resented them and hated them for the rest of my life
I’m glad ppl are speaking up about these type of “rehabilitation” schools. I knew a few ppl in high school who were pulled out of school and sent away to places like this
Was it forced?
i love this new video format hailey! i think that changing outfits and locations for different headings is really nice because it keeps the watchers engaged. it also shows that you’re not overwhelming yourself by filming everything in one day all at once :)
i felt the same way!!
My boyfriend went to two different wilderness camps disguised as a treatment facilities called teen challenge USA and narrow gate in Franklin TN. Narrow Gate made them sleep outside and “camp”. He almost got SA’ed at teen. He called his Dad the next day after it happened and thankfully he has such a caring and smart parent, his Dad raised hell and got him out that day. His parents were seeking help for his substance abuse issues and these place’s purposely target families like his.
And this is why abortion should be legal . These kids are troubled BECAUSE OF THE PARENTS incapability to raise children with love
Dude, don't use real human beings as your argument on why they shouldn't have been born. No one should feel they or someone else were better off death, that's a horrible mindset to live.
@@antoniomv9444 dude don't be so naive . It's called reality if it's that cruel to you think about the consequences of not being able to make ur own choice . Its that bleak
@@antoniomv9444 one isn't dead if they never existed in the first place.
Don't care for a child? Don't get a child in the first place.
@@angeljordan619 who are u to decide the worth of another’s life? You never know what they could grow up to become, help them grow or give them to someone that would be happy to watch them get older.
@@He4rtz4u have u ever talked to someone who was taken from an abusive home as children and put into homes. They wish they were dead. They grow up with a lot of trauma and pain. Yes some grow from it but alot don't.
I’m from Maine. I think the real problem is that these are troubled kids and the state (all states) just don’t care about children with criminal records or if they are “in the system.” They probably want to use their money for “bigger cases” . 😓
It’s really sad. My father use to work with kids like that and loved it.
They’re training future criminals they can extract money from
Lots of States seem to care more about clumps of cells than actual living breathing children..
I wish they put the same amount of effort into helping troubled kids or kids in the foster care system as they did supposed “unborn” babies..
@@KingOfGaymes an unborn child should not be any less important than a born child, and vice versa
@@daisy-wt9pd yes except one can actually you know feel things like emotion and pain
44:50 oh my god I keep forgetting how young some of these kids were. Obviously everyone there was made to suffer, but imagining 12/13 year olds with a bunch of 18 year olds who were given authority by the abusive staff is horrifying. Heartbreaking.
I'm glad this 'school' shut down, the information and events happened and caused there pissed me off. Nobody deserves to be treated that way, not even my worst enemies. Whoever participated in the abuse or supported this action should face horrible consequences maybe go through what these poor kids went through.
what's most frustrating to me is that the authorities weren't the ones who shut down the place even though that was their job. No, they left the traumatized people who were abused there and a few allies to fight for YEARS to shut down this place. I can't imagine how frustrating and painful that must have been....
The Authorities were never intended to help us, they only exist so the rich and powerful can get away with whatever sick and inhumane stunts they want all the while we can’t do anything about it.
there are many many places like Elan still in existence. Highly recommend people do their research into wilderness treatment centers to protect themselves, families, friends, etc. My own sibling was sent to one of these, they are beyond terrible.
reddit.com/r/troubledteens
and submit documents to my repository at troubledteens.wordpress.com
Basically legal kidnapping and torture. That's how crapitalism works.
EDIT: ELAN HAS REBRANDED AS “IRONWOOD”
hi! I did not go to Elan but I did go to a similar school in the troubled teen industry, actually just down the street from Provo Canyon School (where Paris Hilton went and eventually got shut down for ab*se). I can confirm firsthand that this is an accurate portrayal of what it is like to be sent away to a place like this. I am happy to share more details but do not want to trauma dump unsolicited lol! thank you for making this video and bringing attention to it.
EDIT: I went to eva carlston academy, also known as mount olympus preparatory school. A lot of stuff happened but the worst in my opinion was when girls were put on “talking interventions” (myself included as an undiagnosed autistic woman, kind of incompetent that the whole time I was there autism never crossed any mental health professionals mind) where you straight up were not allowed to speak, make eye contact, or even gesture without explicit permission from a staff member.
I think people need to hear more testimony. It's not trauma dumping... I seriously think that that expression was made up by people with no boundaries.
i would also like to hear more about this ^^
@@Anonymous-54545 I appreciate that, genuinely
you should totally edit and add more information about your experience! it’d really help people, that’s not trauma dumping!!
@@whihoney okay I will :) thank you for the encouragement, truly
"I don't know how this place didn't get shut down even after Phillips death" this is how you know she doesn't live in Maine. We have so many bad things happen here that should get investigated by authorities that don't because our system up here is absolute ass.
I could not finish this video. Elan hurt so many people. It hurts me to hear about it. The start of the video, i could only think of how similar these punishments were to what i have wished to happen to me in horrible days, but by 45 minutes in, i could not stand it any longer. I send prayers and/or wishes to all families who had to endure this and be left in the dark of what happened to their poor children and brothers and sisters. Thank you Hailey for shedding light on what was a silent yet national tragedy.
I've lived in Maine my whole and I've only heard about this in the past year. I was severely mentally ill as a teenager, it could have been me. This is outrageous.
same. Same. Same. Acadia alum. There’s so much shocking history in Maine regarding psychiatric treatment. Pineland, AMHI, Elan, etc… so horrific.
it’s terrible as i’ve also lived in maine my whole life and never heard of this. it’s terrible to hear about.
@@amy-ec1tt yep. long creek is still alive and well too. so much madness here. :(
I’ve lived in maine for all my life. Disgusting. That these “schools” are tainting Maine with this disgusting institution.
I’m surprised that none of the kids snapped on everyone around them.
Right like you’d think people would go nuts and catch real charges and try and burn that place down. I know I would
You either rebel and get punished or run away and get killed
I would personally know myself that nothing that happened was a choice by anyone.
They were forced into it and every single person that’s there has experienced that embarrassment. As angry and hurt as you’d be you’d know it’s not them, it’s the evil people running it!
Sadly there are still schools out there like this. I went to one back in 2020 and they would not let me out till 2021. If you did something that they think is wrong then they call big huge men to hold you so hard you think your gonna snap and then lock you in a room for hours. Do not think that these type of places are over! I am #Breakingcodesilence!
I would suggest if you’re comfortable with it to go on the different platforms and find people who went to the same school as you, gather up testimonies, and take them down. But only if you’re comfortable with it obviously
the school is called youthcare of utah
i highly recommend the joe v. the cult online comic series that’s about a guy’s experience at elan. there’s some panels of it in the video and it goes in way more detail about the specific punishments and “therapies” they had to endure. he has an incredible story that deserves more attention.
where do u find that
I was born in 1970. Stuff like this went hand in hand with the whole 'tough love' system from the 70s and 80s.
Personally, I thought it was a load of hypocritical bs. It worked just about as well as 'Just say no.'
Seriously, how hypocritical did parents have to be to think that they could pull this crap when most of them used to be rebellious hippies that practiced 'free love' without shame and used drugs very publicly in the 60s?
Pro tip for hypocritical parents: Don't try the wrong 'tough love' group therapy routine on your kids if you caught them smoking pot but currently smoke it yourself. You'll just end up being publicly embarrassed by the very people you're trying to call out.
That's what I did to my parents anyhow.
So much this!!!
@@A_Ducky let's be honest here. Someone has to call out the Boomers.
A concerning percentage of them have lost their damn minds and actually believe that their opinions are the only ones that matter.
These are the very same loons that think that the rest of us should be grateful to be in their godlike presence.
Us Gen Xers may be sh*theads from time to time but our stupidity is a candle next to the Boomer's sun.
So, not that you'll ever need it, I'm freely offering irrefutable information that you can use to shut them down cold.
The facts are 100% accurate and there's no way that they can't bs their way through them with some bs semi legitimate excuse.
If you want it, it's yours. If not, I'm not going to hunt you down and force you to listen to it.
I just think that things would be a lot more fair if the younger generations had some ammo to engage the Boomers with. It's just not a fair fight as things stand now and this needs to be addressed before they get completely out of hand.
Just let me know. Best of luck to you.
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Haha not only do I completely agree, but YES PLS!! 😃
@@A_Ducky did you know that, when Boomers were college aged, they could pay for their schooling with a summer job and not a friggin $100,000 loan?
How about the fact that the original minimum wage laws required employers to pay employees enough money to support a family of four on one income?
Is it just me or does it seem to be running a little differently nowadays? I mean, I could be wrong...after all, I am a bit ancient myself, you know? But I've got no problem with being told about my errors either.
How about the fact that all of the innovations they're soooooo proud to shove in our faces are largely due to the fact that most of the manufacturing factories and development labs in other countries were blown sky high during WWII?
Of course they were making more incredible innovations than anyone else...no one else had the means to do it!
By the way, you do know why they're called Boomers, right? It's because people started popping kids out like crazy when WWII ended.
So that means that the Boomer's sole claim to fame is literally the fact that their parents were horny. How tf can you walk around being proud of *that*?
However, you'd think that the Boomers would at least be smart enough to realize that they're p*ssing off and alienating the exact group of people that are best positioned to decide what happens to them as they age and how they're cared for while they age.
Great work guys! You're f*cking brilliant...
And wtf kind of thinking can they be doing to believe that it's perfectly reasonable to blame everything that's falling apart (due solely to their actions and decisions) on people who weren't even alive when this crap was set into motion?
You guys must be good...and I mean really good. You've been running the show from inside sperm and eggs going back at least two generations.
That's some friggin amazing sh*t right there. Those are, at the very least, God tier powers. You and your friends must be very proud!
How about the phones they're always bitching about? Yeah, I'm sure that every middle and high school aged person in America has enough disposable income laying around to pay for their phone and cell service.
I mean, it's not like someone else gave them to you and pays for the service or something. You guys definitely deserve all of the blame. /s
Don't even get me started on the whole 'Me Generation' bs that they've managed to sweep under the rug. This whole clusterf*ck of an economy is due to that crap.
I doubt you've ever heard of this because, so far as I know, I'm the only one who uses this phrase so I respectfully request that you bear with me on this. In my world, I call Boomers the "Jesus is coming, everybody look busy." generation. I know it's a lame joke but I really do love it.
They act like a bunch of toddlers because they're jealous that they didn't have all the cool stuff that people have these days when they were growing up.
Get a clue people! Your whole damn job is supposed to be making life better and safer for the generations that follow yours. Not having a friggin temper tantrum because you didn't get the new toy that Bobby got. Damn narcissistic idiots!
And, even if they had the damn stuff they'd be screaming bloody murder over the stress levels that you guys have to deal with.
My God, these people piss me right tf off! I cannot express that strongly enough. It's wrong and it's for damn sure unacceptable.
They have no idea how lucky they are that I'm not sneaking into their houses at night and rubbing Icy Hot in their dentures.
And the one thing that I consider to be their worst sin? They treat anyone under 50 like they're some kind of lesser creature and that is simply disgustingly unacceptable.
My son is 10. He is treated as an equal because he is one. They need to stop equating a lack of training/experience with a lack of social and/or personal value.
They wouldn't want it to happen to them and they damn well don't have the right to do it to anyone else.
Let's be clear here, I'm as guilty of hypocrisy as anyone else. No one can see hypocrisy in themselves because no one can be that objective about their own actions and beliefs. But that doesn't mean that it's not your responsibility to try to do everything within your power to avoid making yourself a hypocrite. That sentence actually does make sense, I promise.
If you want to spread the information I've given you around, you have my blessing. I don't even care if you claim the ideas as your own.
I don't need credit; I need to live in a world populated by rational and reasonable human beings.
@@A_Ducky Holy cow! I just realized that I posted a War and Peace sized mock manifesto. I think I might have gone a little too far.
Well...maybe not...I'm pretty sure that I could still add a few more chapters.
I apologize for sending over something that you probably don't have enough hours in the day to read though.
I just get so frustrated with people that I have to blow up every now and again.
For example, I probably embarrassed the hell out of my husband a couple of weeks ago when he started criticizing our son's taste in music because the artists 'aren't a good influence'.
Evil witch that I am, I looked him dead in the eye and said, "How is that any different than when we listened to NWA, 2 Live Crew, Slayer and about a hundred other groups?"
It probably wasn't the greatest idea in the world to call him out like that in front of our son but...what's done is done.
I think I might have come dangerously close to igniting a divorce by doing that though.
But, honestly, the truth is the truth no matter how much you try to deny it.
Let me know whether or not the information I gave you is credible enough and/or useful enough once you've recovered from the exhaustion of reading it.
Apologies for the novella. People my age refuse to listen to reason so I'm stuck posting it on the internet.
Thank you for your patience, I really, truly appreciate it.
There is no other word than horrendous. I actually can’t believe there was a school based around torturing each other. The complete opposite of how you should treat behavioural and trauma issues. I can’t believe young, and malleable people had to endure this
The stories about the ones who escaped Elan but were still failed by adults who they looked at for help outside is awful 😢 they never got to go home
This is really sickening to look at, it makes me uncomfortable because I know if my family knew of a place like this, they would’ve sent me there and I don’t like thinking about that.
all of your videos are actually so put together like how do you do that ONCE A WEEK wonderwoman??
The editing and scripting of this video don't go unnoticed, I love the attention to detail and how it feels like I'm watching a documentary. Luv u Hailey
I heard about Elan through a documentary called "Children of Darkness", and I always thought "what ever happened to this place?". Now I know.
The fact that a whole male truck driver who was supposed to HELP a girl whose already been through so much abuse from that hellhole of a school but decided to assault her made me lose faith in men even more
Ahm hello, not everyone is the same abuser as that person. I just lose hope in humanity
Don’t worry, we don’t claim the truck driver.
Not just men, but people as a whole. Men and women are basically the same.
Calling these "people" as "humans" is offensive.
@@lancetheking7524 Somethings are getting better at least, but somethings are as bad as it was before, if not a bit better or a bit worse.
I feel traumatized just by hearing the "therapy" they got there. It's just insane.
This is absolutely one of the most evil "institutions" ive ever heard of in my life. The amount of horror, trauma and anxiety I can't even imagine. My heart breaks for those children now adults. I hope they find a deep amount of peace, happiness, tranquility in their hearts and mind and body. Brings tears to my eyes.. I hope the low life demonic pigs than "ran" this "school" rot in the deepest darkest holes of hell. Thank you for the video Hailey. Amazing video and research once again ♥️ God bless you and everyone ✨
Hailey, saving me on long flights and drives for the last 2 years. Still too underrated!!!
I wonder how thing's would have been if these children's parents had just had a conversation with them rather then sending them to a "troubled teen rehabilitation" facility. In no ways the fault is anyone's but the founders of the school and staff, but I think many parents with "troubled teens" could improve their relationship just with healthy communication.
I hugely appreciate you bringing up this topic and discussing " treatment schools ". However I however I would also encourage anyone that was affected by this to look into how these programs are still active and still happening all across the country. I myself am a survivor of one of these schools, they're horrendous and and attention needs to be drawn to this so they can be stopped.
Exactly. Even the “wellness retreats” are like this.
Daytop (which u mentioned in the beginning) is about 15 min from me. They used to punish the kids by making them dig their own graves (just an exersize not that they were gunna kill then still traumatizing) cleaning the sun off the floor which meant cleaning floors from sun up till sun down with a toothbrush and thats just the tame stuff.....ive had friends go to othwr schools and the things they went through are just beyond horrible
its just so comically evil. hard to believe its real