If you want to +a refine its simple relogin than do hematite + anti until fail 5 time then change to Damascus ore + anti until fail 5 time then change to mirthil ore + anti i think it will success if still fail 5 time change world do the same thing again. If u want to refine +s don't do it like +a just spam hematite + anti and change world if fail 15 times
@@mr.f9858 I Haven't tried the 15 times hematite on +A instead I tried x5 hematite, Damascus ore, mithril ore for +S the x5 mitril ore fail but I haven't change world still at int1 sofya I was gonna do hematite x15 I forgot and do mithril ore x15 it work at 7th attempt Thank my boi
@@Solbashio Haha that's the plan for now. But I still need to lvl up my luk farmer cuz I just recently made it, currently not enough stat points to go full luk
Another thing to do is just use damascus ore (from mino) for 0 to 7. Then mythril ore until E and orichalcum til B. Easy refine B actually. I think A and S are for advanced players.
I feel like the luckiest person alive I did +B to +A on my first try and took me less than 10 tries to get to +S after that and my equipment even had a slot
never had the patience for lots of fails so no comment at all on A-S, except I'm about to try, and salty a bit over the changes made.. seems like the savings of pom and andeg was made nearly obsolete if you're up for boring grind
sensei, at 4:07 you said that the degradation prevention would be 95% if using full luk char, so does that mean 255Luk is equal to 20% prevention? and if we use super anti-deg, does our degrade prevention will always be 100%?
Side quest, trade mini skins. If you RUclips mini skin farming they should say how to sell them for max profit"anti degradation" hope this helps.... Ps side quest is next to board in sofya city talk to npc
Oh man, I relate with this so much. I tried levelling a TEC>STR Halberd. After the MQ, it was hell. Thank god for free resets, I reset to a BG/BS Tank with VIT=TEC (as of now) and it was soooo much easier. The best way to get to level a BS is free resets XD
It's really bothering me how I, for several times refined with mithril ore at +3 only to fail due to lag. So it has a 100% success rate all along? My phone is shitty.
I found out refining no slot the weapon only drops by 1, like from B to C for example But 1 slot can drop by 1 or 2 and that's the only difference. So if u find a good weapon with 1 slot get it, cheaper than buying a piercer
that's why i only want to be a merchant in toram(more on buying rush price from that board thingy then selling it for a little bit reasonable price hahahah)
Hi! Im a newbie blacksmith so i dont know much about smithing.. um when refining chara made weapons and armor which should come first? Do i put stat first then refine or refine first then fillstat and also do i need a max lvl my bs for better chance on refining? Is bs luk with 255 luk lv 135 still good at refining or is it risky? 😣😣
Is it better to get a ns and refine to +S and buy piercer later? I'm already dead inside from refining a 1s to +E. Besides, 2s equips are hella expensive. But then again, i'm not really sure which method is cheaper since i've never bought a piercer before.
Also, from A-S, if we use full luk and use hyper refining powder (+15% success rate), does it work? but yeah, it can degrade easier but x16 more sucess rate is still quite good
Can someone give me a list of refining costs from + D to + S? For example if I have refined my 2H to + C, what price should I add to get a profit? I want to do this method to get Spina, but I don't know the price, and I'm afraid to lose too
Dragoon if you have other ways of getting mp as the resistance is awesome. Sakura 4 is decent hw'd more like players first tank armor. Seele is slightly better in hp mp.
Im new player, i just try refining in this game I buy +B md, i want to get it to +S because i dont know how hard it would be. Im feeling confident with my 255 tec bs And oh boy i didnt think it would be this hard I waste like almost 3 stacks of anti degradations and its just fell off from +B to +7 And now i dont know how to feel, my day is ruined.
Sometimes it's just below million.. sometimes its above 5 million... Then you get very pissed and ended up using 10 million but still haven't made it to +s
You used magic hammer which means there 20% chance to lose the equipment while you refinement, don’t use it again , when I also was newbi did the same as you Xd
bad cat yea it’s hard at beginning but you can get good 4th anniv staff with B refinement cost around 700k, just farm energi bottles , the 5 Annie equipment Will be very expensive so anyway need a month after event to become a little bit cheaper
I did a +1 refine :D
Congrats bro 😂
Congrats ma friends 😂😂
da best quote of the day by stone mobile yt 😂
Omegad. U have my support :D
I'm go for a 2
the most satisfying sound in toram is when u get ur S refine successfully
I never feel that
@@Hapz137 i can feel you
but if is breaking sound. a pain in the ass of refiner.
I did twice the entire my life playin toram.
It's only satisfying because you failed so many times before.
The changing maps trick just helps reduce stress during refining.
Why is that?
@@ponzu638 maybe they believe its gonna help
lmao
@@shinramune8041 just like ppl belive in God
@@datsrough6217 Probably
Best record for this year, used 7 stack of anti degra in less than 24 hours... The results still at +B :p
So sad, xD
No that's alot of damage ≧∇≦
If you want to +a refine its simple relogin than do hematite + anti until fail 5 time then change to Damascus ore + anti until fail 5 time then change to mirthil ore + anti i think it will success if still fail 5 time change world do the same thing again. If u want to refine +s don't do it like +a just spam hematite + anti and change world if fail 15 times
@@mr.f9858 I Haven't tried the 15 times hematite on +A instead I tried
x5 hematite, Damascus ore, mithril ore for +S the x5 mitril ore fail but I haven't change world still at int1 sofya I was gonna do hematite x15 I forgot and do mithril ore x15 it work at 7th attempt
Thank my boi
its a sad story
Guess I’m the only player that has the type of luck where refinements go from A to 7
R.I.P
The Odore since that happened I refuse to refine stuff I just buy pre refined gear or get a trusted guild member
best day eva :v
You're not alone xD
A to 5 here :
Me: Procrastinates making a 255 LUK refiner
Also me: I need a LUK refiner
*cries in +B equipments*
Just use your luk farmer and add refine skill..
@@Solbashio Haha that's the plan for now. But I still need to lvl up my luk farmer cuz I just recently made it, currently not enough stat points to go full luk
And then i realized i cant even afford a single HP Orichalcum
because of that high price 25k/pcs XD
@@richzx it's about 200k a piece lmao
@@hagelschwaden840 wtf XD
Buy it from npc
@@rad_it4023there is no hp ori at npc shop
I remember my frist S refine...so much money gone...but worth it
every time i try to do refine with full luk and anti degrade, it degrades after just a couple attempts. very frustrating
Yeah same
Same damb bastards have some weird type of luck
I cant even see my fucking weapon cuz it degrades
Another thing to do is just use damascus ore (from mino) for 0 to 7. Then mythril ore until E and orichalcum til B. Easy refine B actually. I think A and S are for advanced players.
I feel like the luckiest person alive I did +B to +A on my first try and took me less than 10 tries to get to +S after that and my equipment even had a slot
Very honest info. There's no trick to refining. Just refine as usual keeping the cost in mind.
And peace don't forget about it .. Keep calm and continue refining
Sometimes you can easily have +s. Like one try.. but sometimes...
It's very ugly when your +A becomes +9
Yeah then you have spent 20m on a pcr then it just goes back to +9 from +A
@@vensilgalang964 cursed gear.. RNGesus didn't bless us
@@vensilgalang964 cursed gear.. RNGesus didn't bless us
That “little did i know i forgot to switch” got me dead laughing lmao
Been there, done that.
thanks to much odore sensei! i did my first +B, now im leveling the mage luk to do to S
Now we can refine from 0 to +S just using LUK char, mithril ore, and LV1 refine skill
Thanks for explaining what is refining and how to refine. 👍
I'm just gonna stick to +9
SAME 😂👌
Go at least +B the power difference quite much
What are the refinement values for each level of refinement?(How many attack It increases per lvl)
in the end, all u need is bunch of low to high end ores and RNG (Just hoping for RNGsus ) =33
Can you do a guide on how to BS for newbies? like what steps to make at the start and how to increase proficiency? fill stats etc?
You can check other video there are freaking tons of
@@puffpuffpanda4383 you don't say. But decided to ask I him anyways 🤷♂️. If you don't like it that's on you lol, already made a Int BS.
@@MrDiegoc16 pfft dipshit
@@MrDiegoc16 Don't gotta be so rude. They were just telling you that there are tons of videos out there already.
I just start playing for last 4 day and I don't even know what u doing,but it's look quite frustrating 😅
Basically pray to RNGesus and every RNGods when you've finally reached B+
i have a question a wanna build a black smith so what should i go for tec 255 or luck 255 and i can only go for one i don't think i can go for both
255 tec blacksmith does everything except B-S refining
im lowbudget so im going to skinned the minos...
same
Just failed miserably following those refine trick thing few hours ago, then this showed up on my notification
Broo anti deg cost high as hell, might as well sell my second liver for that
Just farm in mino lol a lot of bs farms in mino to save money
best way to farm mino is with finale tho
Finale is 7-9 secs, 2h is 6secs, halberd is 1-4secs
What? Andeg price crashed due to quarantine because of too much supply
@@rizzyneutron209 meteor breaker for the win
Best reffinement tips ever
I've been seen other video and at the video it say " Use this trick so u can got + s easily"
Huh that bullshit
faster way at least to B from E is using pom refinement of various sizes with Ori naturally gold and HP Ori for slotted B..
This is what should very youtuber do . Straight short and easy to understand .. not like the other making stories too many tactics. But doesn't work.
I can do A+ easily with tec n hp but never get any S+ afraid of losing my A+ to E+ 😓
sometimes you have to take risks in order to grow in life
@@wallflower7016 that trueeT-T
I never did +S in my life , I did +A .....
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It's just end here with my all spina gone 🤐
I cry every time when +S
never had the patience for lots of fails so no comment at all on A-S, except I'm about to try, and salty a bit over the changes made.. seems like the savings of pom and andeg was made nearly obsolete if you're up for boring grind
sensei, at 4:07 you said that the degradation prevention would be 95% if using full luk char, so does that mean 255Luk is equal to 20% prevention? and if we use super anti-deg, does our degrade prevention will always be 100%?
Yep, but refining with super anti-deg is very non profitable.
Nope, he meant that 75% + 20% = 95% prevent degrade
Hhhmmmm for example a mob that drops orchalcum appear, would the price refining services drop? By how much?
not much...since there are mobs that drop orich..the drop rate is near impossible tho...Seele Zauga NM is a good way to farm orich i suppose
@@moekabuan7202 I tried farming oric from the mobs in Brahe Lab. Took me an hour to get just 1 ori ore
Thanks for the info! But one question. Where I could get the anti degredation potion.
Side quest, trade mini skins. If you RUclips mini skin farming they should say how to sell them for max profit"anti degradation" hope this helps.... Ps side quest is next to board in sofya city talk to npc
A dude shouted out levling with no mq was so hard
Those BS player in a dark corner of the room that looked crazy : hehehe,the totoring is just begun
Oh man, I relate with this so much. I tried levelling a TEC>STR Halberd. After the MQ, it was hell. Thank god for free resets, I reset to a BG/BS Tank with VIT=TEC (as of now) and it was soooo much easier. The best way to get to level a BS is free resets XD
I just wait for reset event then change my bs to dps then change back lol
(i leveled my bs prof b4 i lvled)
Can you explain why refine skill has no effect for B-S?
I dont really know, Old Player still use all refine skill 10
bcuz no matter whut us do B-S is already 1% no matter whut ore you use
Asobimo way to shit on everyone~
Same in Iruna u cant have Max refine without dropping a tear of blood and rage
It's really bothering me how I, for several times refined with mithril ore at +3 only to fail due to lag. So it has a 100% success rate all along? My phone is shitty.
*me realizing u hab 9m spina but i only hab 10k spina*
im doomed i cant afford shts anymore
Have*
Little did he realize...he done f'd up. nice tutorial keep it up.
haha thanks, you seem satisfied with the tutorial
Idk if im wasting more if i refine with mithril ore (no andeg) to C but it seems less expensive if you have time to spare lol
I refined 0-B with damascus ore, mithril ore, and orichalcum ore and it's very easy o.o
By refining what changes happens in weapon
The weapon attack will increase:
+1 : +2%
+2 : +6%
+3 : +12%
+4 : +20%
+5 : +30%
+6 : +42%
+7 : +56%
+8 : +72%
+9 : +90%
+E : +110%
+D : 132%
+C : 156%
+B : 182%
+A : 210%
+S : 240%
I got Scammed
Then found out that half of my money was gone.
The next day.
I used 5 antideg for B-S!
lucky? coz dunno how much ur spina gone btw
He scammed himself
The pity system noticed your distress
Best video on refining so far.
HP B-A is the cheapest method since you save a lot of time(time is gold) and only struggle on A-S with luk smith
Yea i get that alot
Pretty hard from B to A
But only 3 times from A to S... Sometime less than 10 times
What do you think is more profitable for a mid range player? Refining a ns then piercing or buying 1s then refining?
Commenting here so I get notif when someone replies 👌
Depends on how much you're buying that piercer
Following this thread. I wanna know too.
I found out refining no slot the weapon only drops by 1, like from B to C for example
But 1 slot can drop by 1 or 2 and that's the only difference.
So if u find a good weapon with 1 slot get it, cheaper than buying a piercer
And I have +B equips (add and sword) that I only bought for not more than 500k. With xtal. RIP ores, why those for so low if it's this hard?
How much to sell indigo jet sword no stat +S refine?
2.5m minimum
apparently in my Experiences it's Really Easier to Refine in Int 1 than other servers
that's why i only want to be a merchant in toram(more on buying rush price from that board thingy then selling it for a little bit reasonable price hahahah)
How to buy a ref service without getting scammed?
Only buy from trusted ones
Or you can ask for a 80-90% insurance
Guildmates?
join at facebook group, rpg toram, many legit refiners their
Insurance item
Exam: Xtal
Can you elaborate the difference between TEC refiner and LUK refiner? Thanks.
Tech is purely for better refine success
Luk is for refine security, less degrade chance.
(s refine is always rng hell)
Cold cut thats all it means.
Oh I see thank you very much 😊😊😊
If you refine in a blacksmith can you have higher rate
Great How much for an S refiner service
Just 4stack of mithriel ore and +s. With no anti degradation
do i need blacksmith profiency lvl 150+ to make an effective refiner?
I refine it +D already but... when tryin to +C refine fail and my weapon gone... T-T
Hi! Im a newbie blacksmith so i dont know much about smithing.. um when refining chara made weapons and armor which should come first? Do i put stat first then refine or refine first then fillstat and also do i need a max lvl my bs for better chance on refining? Is bs luk with 255 luk lv 135 still good at refining or is it risky? 😣😣
You can fill then refine later or do the opposite, check the video
Are u have recommendation how much ore/andeg for refine +A & +S?
Coz i already able to refine +B but never try refine +A and +S
Consider your budget around 5M for total cost. Depends on luck.
What is the difference between b equip to s equip. I bought a 5m bow not knowing 1m more will have given me s grade and a higher base atk
U already answer ur question lol
@@ayanokojikiyotaka331 bruh so late. Thx anyway
Well, I was going to finally make a refine character until I seen this. I ain't wasting time on a broken system
Refining is one of the best ways to earn money in this game, it's just that your luck is put to test.
Like I said, broken.
i remember anti degrade only prevent 75 %, hyper anti prevent 95%
I'm confused, which should I get then? Luk or Tec?
Tech from +0 to +B
Luk from +B to +S
Is the bs prof metter when u do refine??
So informative thankyouu very much! ^o^
Is it better to get a ns and refine to +S and buy piercer later? I'm already dead inside from refining a 1s to +E. Besides, 2s equips are hella expensive. But then again, i'm not really sure which method is cheaper since i've never bought a piercer before.
It saves much more time. Get to s refine, farm bosses with your new op weapon sell xtals and mats, buy piercers is way My guildies always do it.
@@blindedjourneyman alright, thanks!
Can I use my luk mage to do the B - S?
Also, from A-S, if we use full luk and use hyper refining powder (+15% success rate), does it work? but yeah, it can degrade easier but x16 more sucess rate is still quite good
As long as your luk mage got 255 luk, that 15% success rate increase would just be 0.15%(1.15% total)
@@TheOdore9 ouh I see 😂 thankyou sir
I can only do 9 the most I can't go up to E
Can someone give me a list of refining costs from + D to + S?
For example if I have refined my 2H to + C, what price should I add to get a profit?
I want to do this method to get Spina, but I don't know the price, and I'm afraid to lose too
At long last a refining vid with more sense. Unlike those who believe there are tricks to it lmao.
Will the refine be removed if you change the appearance? Example: +B refine and the apperance you want is 0.
Appearance has nothing to do with the equipment's status
Thank you got refine +s more easier ty bro ^O^
Is the new sakura garb good for tank or should I still use dragoonmail?!
Dragoon if you have other ways of getting mp as the resistance is awesome. Sakura 4 is decent hw'd more like players first tank armor. Seele is slightly better in hp mp.
Don’t trust any tricks, best advice!
Giga schlong in just 3 weeks using this little trick!!!¡¡¡
Now I can get to +E using hematites alone....
Im new player, i just try refining in this game
I buy +B md, i want to get it to +S because i dont know how hard it would be.
Im feeling confident with my 255 tec bs
And oh boy i didnt think it would be this hard
I waste like almost 3 stacks of anti degradations and its just fell off from +B to +7
And now i dont know how to feel, my day is ruined.
uhh why does it became +10 not E
the odore pls notice this question. How much spina does it usually cost to refine 0-S? Just the average guess
Above 2m
Sometimes it's just below million.. sometimes its above 5 million... Then you get very pissed and ended up using 10 million but still haven't made it to +s
beside ore and tec is there anything that affect refine?
spina 😅
I wonder how much spina did he loose on one weapon
Can you try refine 2s item to +S ?
Just experienced two times of B to E and I’m broke now RIP
Usually it takes how many Andeg to reach +S??
Does BS proficiency affect refinement success or not?
i get why +S items cost so much now
You have equipment for katana or have a katana?
Is it my luck, that my first and only expensive staff i lost in refinement.. :) newbi here
You used magic hammer which means there 20% chance to lose the equipment while you refinement, don’t use it again , when I also was newbi did the same as you Xd
@@radwanalaghawani7053 is this how newbi friendly this game >_
bad cat yea it’s hard at beginning but you can get good 4th anniv staff with B refinement cost around 700k, just farm energi bottles , the 5 Annie equipment Will be very expensive so anyway need a month after event to become a little bit cheaper
Toram hates newbied lol
Even settings aren't set up for newbies
Is the slot weapon effect the refinement?
If failed, it will degrade more miserably.
NS degrades by 1
1s degrades by 1-2
You can imagine how tough it is for 2s
Does blacksmith proficiency affects fill statting?
just the material cost
how much spinas usually does it take to refine 0-S on your own?
4m
Hi Odore , i want to ask u something. So If we using antideg, The deg is about 95-99% . So? How about super andeg?
better but not 100%
@@TheOdore9 but why?
so glad when you say refine is pure luck and change places just waste your time
Which one is harder to refine npc made or player made or the same?
npc requires spina to refine but the success rate is just the same with players.
We don't need proficiency in refining right?
Do u lose the item that ur refining if it fails?
Cz im tryna refine my 5th anniversary vii and im afraid of loosing it
of kors not, there is no wAY your item will gone, but please dont use magic hammer, its scam
I just stop at +E altogether knowing how my luck is. 😅
Best guide with explanation