“Who can you depend on besides Allen?” So no one sees what Khalil Shakir is doing? He’s been the most consistent and dependable receiver since the middle of last season. Cook balls out and lightens the load almost every game. Coleman and Kincaid have been hurt. Cooper has been an amazing safety net since joining the roster The opportunity falls on the defense just as it has in recent past. I don’t care who you have at QB. If you give up 44 points, you’re likely going to lose.
So sick of all these talking points. Josh Allen can play a perfect game and still lose because of the defense. Same thing happened in 13 seconds. Josh had that game won. But the defense and defensive coordinator let him down. This team is far more complete than it was last year on offense.
The problem is that the Bills have a great defense that can fall apart in half a quarter!!! EVERY YEAR!!! I know... it's been my life.!!!! Go BILLS!!!!!!
@@rafaelisslaam1894 Stanford 245 2 TDS, puka torched them too for 117 yds, kyren averaged almost 5 yrds a carry that’s half a first down every carry, yall held tutu at well to 30 yrds i guess that counts for stopping the rams, if anything yall offense just did the work
The rams scored 44, that doesn’t happen often definitely vs a bills defense, this game was a anomaly, take comfort knowing if need be and your QB can go put up 42 with no turnovers
The ravens scored 35 on them and they haven’t played any other elite offenses this year. Soon as they played two elite offenses, the rams and the ravens, they allowed 35 and 44. I think it shows that the defense can get got if you have a top offense in the league
@nighthawk8706 What does mean something is that the Chiefs are 12-1 and the bills are 10-3, with one of those losses from a supposedly inferior team with a 6-6 record but now they're 7-6, thanks to the bills 😂😂😂🤡🫏
@Emil2tx I love the fact Buffalo is sitting at 10-3 but the Rams game was completely winnable and a waste of the offenses effort. Defense can't allow 44 pts
the defense just had a really really bad game. it happens to all teams. The offense is very balanced and played near perfect despite missing coleman and kincaid.
This is exactly right. I've watched so many reactions to the game and nobody mentioned Kincaid and Coleman were out. The game would have been much different if the Rams were missing 2 of their top receivers, as well.
@@geek921 they gotta fill out their show somehow but it gets really irritating when they don't bring up the obvious. A usually very good bills defense had a terrible day against a great QB and wr duo despite the bills offense playing near perfect
James Jones always have the best takes on this show he the best by far! If your def not giving up 20 points to 8 teams then they definitely doin there job
He's 100% right. The problem is they didn't do their job against the Rams. It's that simple, and it happens. If the D got literally 1 more stop in that game, Bills win.
I think it is important to note that after Shakir was injured earlier in the Baltimore Game - he was then ruled out for the Houston Game - the Bills offense started to sputter as coverages would not allow any receivers to get open for Allen to throw to. Allen did have an "off game" in Houston, but even with Cooper joining the team (a GREAT Addition), he was injured for several weeks (he did make spectacular grabs when on the field, even while injured), but it was Shakir's return that seemed to once again get Buffalo's Offense rolling and allow other receivers to get open. Cooper is a big help - so is Coleman, who is still injured after the Miami Game, with his big strides in his WR Development - but Shakir seems to be vital to this Offense. Cooper might be a sort of insurance policy, as well as an AWESOME WR1, in case Shakir is injured again and unable to play (knock-on-wood)...his addition also takes the ability of defenses to try and simply take Shakir "away".....
I don't know how we need to fix the defense, better coach, different players, draft? Definitely disappointing to see Josh play so well and we still lose.
Thank you James. Sunday's game was an outlier where the opposing team played lights out on offense. Just feels like very few defenses in the league would have slowed Stafford and Puka down on Sunday.
Any QB that is asked to score 45 points just to win is being asked too much. Dude literally put up the most points in a loss in Bills history. Guy scored 6 tds himself in a way that has never been done, ever, in a regular season with 3 tds passing/running each. Also teams that scored 6 tds with no turnovers WERE 245-0. ZERO!! Well he is the first to be let down that way in NFL history.
They asked Stafford to score more than 42...and he did. All the easy broken TDs were Josh completing short passes that lead to missed tackles and 40 yard tds....How is that NOT help. Stafford had to drive the field every time working THE WHOLE FIELD without the luxury of using his running as a crutch when things weren't working.
As a bills Fan I’m totally disappointed in this team’s defense and the coaching. It’s the same thing every year Josh and the offense showed out but the defense checked out.
@@chrismichael1547 Fun fact, Stafford didn't score 44 points. He did not even lead his offense to 44 points. His special teams got 7 for him. 44-7=37. So no he was not asked to score that many. Also, to be technical, he only had 2 td's, not 6. So there are some flaws to your argument. Of course he led the scoring drives and looked like prime, gunslinger Stafford with 2 studs at WR, but he was not asked nor did he carry that the way Allen did.
The transition period of him adjusting to all the new players on his offense has honestly been immaculate. He can’t do it all tho . Need some defense in there .
Stop discrediting his team. Shakir took a slant 57 yards, Ty took a screen for 41 yards. The 3 (1- yard tds) he could of easily handed those off. His other passing td was beautiful.
How often do Ty and Shakir do that though? Cmon now. Those two are not scaring anyone. Are they trash? No, but they're not even as good as Zay or DJ Moore... guys of that caliber.
No Kincaid and Coleman our red zone and 3rd down threats. Amari is a pro Bowler and had 1200 yards last year with Joe Flac&co. Cook is a perennial 1000 yard scrimmage player. Shakir 😤 the best receiver in terms of YAC check the numbers and catch %. Mack Hollins is the definition of a role player reminds me of Hines Ward in the blocking game he’s never a negative to have if you don’t have to depend on him every series. 25 is my favorite RB ever, Top 3 in Bills history imo but he’s buggin🤦🏾♂️ Honorable Mentions to Ray Davis Dawson Knox
I think this was just an occurrence of our defense from a long road trip, we can tighten up for Detroit that way there’s no “help” argument, the defense just needs to be healthy for the playoffs
@@D.ocument.The.Journey you’re missing my point, it doesn’t matter if he gets better weapons, he won’t win with that coaching, I brought up Herbert because he’s had that and still couldn’t win cause of coaching, 6 tds and losing is insane
So all year long they’ve been saying Josh is doing better because they’ve been run heavy. This is the first time ever all season. The flip flopping is crazy
@@phil-f716 I mean there's only three elite passers in the game. Stafford, Burrow and Mahomes. Herbert potentially. He has to prove it in the playoffs though.
Why are we talking about a team with a top 10 defense, a number of playmakers offensively, and is 10-3 as if they’re .500 and Josh Allen is far and away carrying them through the season.
I don't think they ask too much, i think he volunteers too much. I'm a Josh Allen fan but even when there's better options Josh will do it himself just to get the praise. This cat loves the camera. 😅
He probably doesnt trust the players and why would he? Ok recievers and ok run game. Amari cooper isnt even schemed into the offense well josh is just good asf at making something happen out of nothing
You're not a JA fan if you think this 😂😂😂if you think he cares more about the stats and praise than the win, you are not a fan. Why do people get on the Internet to tell misinformation and lie?😭😭
That is possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The happiest I have seen him after a game was last year after the Cowboys win when he literally barely threw the ball or contributed, and he was so damn happy to see him teammates thrive and get all of the credit. I just think there are some people in life, like you, that do not understand insane internal competive drive to get a monumental job done. He gets it, therefore he steps up, and he does it because he is an intense competitor that will do anything to win. He would be happy to hand off the damn ball everytime if it meant winning. Or, he will use his legs, head, arm, and ability to get the job done if that is what it requires to win.
I don't think they watch bills games josh has enough on offense they should be talking about defense they don't have a guy who can make a play when needed like Jones for kc watt for Pitt Garrett for cle bosa with 49ers but those guys are hard to find I think the defense didn't have energy vs rams cuz they were rolling up to that point
these so called critics are crazy! the Bills have so many players with touchdowns and when Josh Allen has an incredible game then all of a sudden he's the only player on the team! GTFOOH!!
The issue is the Bills when they play other high superstar talent players in huge games Allen gets no help. Someone else can make a play is the point. And his coach often chokes is the biggest of moments during these massive showdowns. Bills could have won that game if McDermott didnt panic and burn a TO. Bills defense better show up in the playoffs or its may be the same thing again. Smh
The textbook example of recency bias, up until last week these same people are saying that they finally got him some help and he doesn't have to be superman all time, I mean, damn.
Not asking too much of Josh. If the defense forces one punt or turnover its a different game. The defense needs to olay better on the road. Rams played a great game. The Bills now have a bigger challenge on the road agaisnt the Lions. Go Bills!
Bills depend on nickel and run blitzing. When we play with a lead we dominant since teams become pass happy. When we off balance you can run up and down on us. Then we start run blitzing and get beat with the pass
Everyone acts like Mahomes has had a top 5 defense his whole career. He just started receiving that benefit the past 2-3 years. I watched him get to OT in the AFC championship against Tom Brady and he won his first Superbowl with a bottom 10 defense. So as a top tier QB you can definitely overcome deficiencies
James jones up there speaking in hindsight. All of a sudden josh got help but the story coming into the season is they have NOTHING. Now josh hooping and its he got some help he got some pieces. Amari Cooper wasnt the difference between missing the playoffs and the not winning the division. 9/10 its Josh and pick a wr vs A whole weapons room on the other side
Except for Jones, these guys are acting like this is the only bills game they watch this year. Players offense can depend on: cooper, shakir, kinkaid, cook, Knox. And by the way this o line is outstanding this year. Are there teams in the NFL that present matchup problems for our defense? Yes! But you can say that for 31 other teams as well. Bottom line is, the bills fell behind in a game early and it turned into a shootout that we lost by 2. Calm down. The sky is not falling this is still a 10-3 team with an MVP qb
The defense 8th in points allowed and 2nd in points per game. Josh really ain’t being asked to do a lot but the way he plays he’s gonna give it!!! On defense Terrell Bernard and taron johnson are our studs injuries destroyed us last year on defense. Also ed Oliver is a name to throw out there along with Milano
Are you kidding. Im a Josh fan but also a Patrick fan. Also a Lamar fan. They are all great. Stafford can't do that without those two recievers. The other three. All the time with minimal stars.
@@gonzalomanriquezjr864it's a team game. Mahomes leads the best 3rd down offense and best time of possession offense in the league. If you don't understand how that helps a defense, you have no business in this conversation
Your Bills couldn't beat them that's why they was there. Back to Back Superbowls. Last season they beat you at your house in the snow. Of course the season before that Chiefs house. Ijs
Impact players on Bills: Taron Johnson, Rousseau, Benford, Bernard, Shakir, Cook, Dawkins, Spencer Brown. Just because they’re not “names” doesn’t mean they’re not very good. Bills lost a lot of “names” last year but those players didn’t make the team better than it is this year. They were living off reputation from previous years. Current roster is in the process of cresting that reputation. Just a complete overreaction to a single game.
This conversation is ridiculous. Just because some players don't have big names doesn't mean they're not reliable. Just has the most reliable receiver in the NFL in Shakir. He also has an OLine better than most and definitely the best in the AFC. Josh can have bad games and win. The only QB that can't have a bad game and has to be perfect every game to the point where he can't throw a pick in a game is Tua. The Josh fetishization from people os too much man. That boy got hella help.
You joking? 3 and out on the first drive but a bogus roughing call let the Bills continue the drive...td that shouldn't have happened...Took another big play away with a weirdly fake OPI call...Rams took the penalty and scored a TD anyway...Rams got a fishy holding penalty...overcame the 10 yards and scored a td...You sick man. Rams have SB DNA, something the Bills have NEVER shown..............Literally........Ever. So glad I don't live in that dump ahha.
Or the fact that the Rams scored basically every time they had the ball. Seems like, if you look at the drive results...they probably score a TD after returning the punt....I doubt they were going TD, TD, TD, Punt, TD, TD, TD...just bc you said so.
Stafford hit at least 4 passes in that game that Allen simply is not capable of hitting. Not due to arm talent, Allen has plenty. He just doesn't have anywhere in the vicinity of Stafford's ability to place a ball. Different leagues. Josh makes up for that by cheaping all them rushing yards, which makes him the most dangerous dude in the NFL...but it's basically just a glitch/spam play...meh.
It could be me but Josh Allen has always been superman and since they picked up amari cooper they havent lost a game until the rams game and in my eyes the rams just performed a little bit better to beat the bills
Love Shady... He will argue that a door is blue and everybody will aggry with him and he'll say but the door is blue though...like blue blue... And get everyone to disagree...lol
@@HockeyDudeJames2 no way you can say a guy with no MVPs, no first team all pro selections, no Super Bowl is the best of a generation. You gotta have some accolades to define a generation.
@ 2nd team and that was a weird year. Him and Burrow split the vote for 2nd team, which I don’t think has ever happened before for the QBs. Both Allen and Burrow were given 2nd team honors. I almost look at those all pro selections with an asterisk.
Name a game where burrow or Lamar had 6 touchdowns and lost. Teams were literally 250-0 when they score 6 touchdowns and have no turnovers before that game 😭. I get that the ravens and bengals ask a lot out of Lamar and burrow but this is a reasonable segment.
Superman for years? Are you talking about the worst statistical mvp in years carried by the number 1 defense? The guy who dropped less then 14 points in the playoffs twice? THAT guy?
Lamar gets too much criticism. That's true. But Joe???? This is the first time he's getting SOME criticism, and it's valid. Lamar's playoff struggles are fair game too. Josh. He's solid in the regular season and solid in the playoffs every year. He got criticized for that 9-30 game for sure. But he's only loss 3 games this year and really only had 2 bad games
Sometimes McCoy talks to talk cause Josh definitely can depend on shakir and there on been one game Josh had to go crazy and that’s against the rams he keep bringing up Baltimore lost which was week 4 two different teams now
Allen is much better than Lamar and Borrow for 5 years in a row with more touchdowns, they will never match him. That's why he is Superman and not Lamar, Borrow or Mahomes. But these have more publicity than Allen, that's why the zebras and the NFL help these QBs. But he is what he is. Allen is much better. I can't imagine that if the Bills had that help, Allen would have 6 MVPs in a row and 5 Superbowls. LOL. (A fact, Mahomes had 2 fewer interceptions than Allen last year and they said that Allen was the worst, that's the help I'm referring to.)
All do respect shady. That take of if he doesn't play well they get blown out is COMPLETELY incorrect. The ravens loss this year was the first in the last 50 games now I believe. That they lost by more than 1 score. Literally do anything BUT get blown out.
This is the first time that these three characters think the same as McCoy. They were always against Allen, this year Allen plays way below what he is, now they want him, I don't understand it.
For years Josh could exhale with Diggs; now that the tables have turned it’s a problem🤔😂🤔🤣 - Mahomes and Burrow could exhale for years; first year out of 7 years for Lamar to have an elite weapon, someone besides Lamar that teams fear - it is what it is - Josh wanted team ball he got it 😭😭😭
and yet he's still averaging more points with his worse weapons, and has as a far better record then both lol, this isn't the argument you think it is.
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“Who can you depend on besides Allen?”
So no one sees what Khalil Shakir is doing? He’s been the most consistent and dependable receiver since the middle of last season. Cook balls out and lightens the load almost every game. Coleman and Kincaid have been hurt. Cooper has been an amazing safety net since joining the roster
The opportunity falls on the defense just as it has in recent past. I don’t care who you have at QB. If you give up 44 points, you’re likely going to lose.
Everything you guys said is exactly why Josh Allen is the MVP this season. No question about it now
So sick of all these talking points. Josh Allen can play a perfect game and still lose because of the defense. Same thing happened in 13 seconds. Josh had that game won. But the defense and defensive coordinator let him down. This team is far more complete than it was last year on offense.
They were a top 5 defense before this game. They lost because Allen got outplayed played
@@CS-wn2sz the difference was the blocked punt, neither defense showed up
@@CS-wn2sz youre just trolling lol josh was the best player in football on sunday lmao
They are 10 and 2.
@@CS-wn2sz Some would say the defense got outplayed.
The problem is that the Bills have a great defense that can fall apart in half a quarter!!! EVERY YEAR!!! I know... it's been my life.!!!! Go BILLS!!!!!!
I would never have guessed Douglas and the rest of the secondary would have played that bad!
Go bills
Everyone's acting as if the rams don't have a HOF QB and PROBOWL WR(S)....
Agreed...I'm not sure any defense was stopping the Rams Sunday night
@@Dsanchez2904 eagles defense would lmao, they already stopped that same offense last week lmao.
@@rafaelisslaam1894 Stanford 245 2 TDS, puka torched them too for 117 yds, kyren averaged almost 5 yrds a carry that’s half a first down every carry, yall held tutu at well to 30 yrds i guess that counts for stopping the rams, if anything yall offense just did the work
@@ESTxxThorr nah he has a point there for sure . Held them to 20 pts.. no touchdowns for puka.. eagles defence played way better than bills defence.
don’t have a hof qb but he’s good
People are forgetting... Josh LIKES to play like that. The coaches want him to tone it down.
The rams scored 44, that doesn’t happen often definitely vs a bills defense, this game was a anomaly, take comfort knowing if need be and your QB can go put up 42 with no turnovers
Exactly 💯💯
The ravens scored 35 on them and they haven’t played any other elite offenses this year. Soon as they played two elite offenses, the rams and the ravens, they allowed 35 and 44. I think it shows that the defense can get got if you have a top offense in the league
Josh Allen does not play on the defense nor special teams. He is undoubtedly the MVP and should have been last year as well. Unanimously!
I’d rather throw 2 TDs and win rather than 6 TDS and lose.
Have you ever played a down in football cause I know I haven't so it's easy foe you to say that but don't honestly know 🤷🏼♀️
The running backs should have at least 15 carries between all of them.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mjosh Allen wants to
Be a hero and not hand off
Until the other team is putting up 44 points. Then your two tds mean nothing
@nighthawk8706 What does mean something is that the Chiefs are 12-1 and the bills are 10-3, with one of those losses from a supposedly inferior team with a 6-6 record but now they're 7-6, thanks to the bills 😂😂😂🤡🫏
If the Bills defense could make 1 or 2 stops the team would be winning more
They’re 10-3 and the defense is ranked top 10
@Emil2tx I love the fact Buffalo is sitting at 10-3 but the Rams game was completely winnable and a waste of the offenses effort. Defense can't allow 44 pts
I mean they've only lost 3 games bro.
@@skaterboi65it’s a critical 3 games as they have SB aspirations and being the 1 seed goes a long way
@@Emil2txfraudulent defense year in year out…
the defense just had a really really bad game. it happens to all teams. The offense is very balanced and played near perfect despite missing coleman and kincaid.
It's really that simple. And against a future HOF QB. Bills still almost won solely on Offense.
This is exactly right. I've watched so many reactions to the game and nobody mentioned Kincaid and Coleman were out. The game would have been much different if the Rams were missing 2 of their top receivers, as well.
@@geek921 they gotta fill out their show somehow but it gets really irritating when they don't bring up the obvious. A usually very good bills defense had a terrible day against a great QB and wr duo despite the bills offense playing near perfect
James Jones always have the best takes on this show he the best by far! If your def not giving up 20 points to 8 teams then they definitely doin there job
I love when he said that Dak quit on his team and wasn’t hurt. Dak had surgery and hasn’t played since. 😂
He's 100% right. The problem is they didn't do their job against the Rams. It's that simple, and it happens. If the D got literally 1 more stop in that game, Bills win.
Good show. My only issue is the hosts have too many allegiances. They show to much favoritism to teams they played for and people they are cool with.
Mostly shady he's so biased
Maybe they need to ask more from the Defensive Line. They disappear in big moments consistently.
I think it is important to note that after Shakir was injured earlier in the Baltimore Game - he was then ruled out for the Houston Game - the Bills offense started to sputter as coverages would not allow any receivers to get open for Allen to throw to. Allen did have an "off game" in Houston, but even with Cooper joining the team (a GREAT Addition), he was injured for several weeks (he did make spectacular grabs when on the field, even while injured), but it was Shakir's return that seemed to once again get Buffalo's Offense rolling and allow other receivers to get open. Cooper is a big help - so is Coleman, who is still injured after the Miami Game, with his big strides in his WR Development - but Shakir seems to be vital to this Offense. Cooper might be a sort of insurance policy, as well as an AWESOME WR1, in case Shakir is injured again and unable to play (knock-on-wood)...his addition also takes the ability of defenses to try and simply take Shakir "away".....
It almost seems like they were just ignoring Shakirs existence.
These guys are bad analysts Shakir and James cook are killing
Shakir the most underrated player in the league
Are you a honest fan of mine?
@@kennya5165 Are you a honest fan of mine?
"Top 10 rushing offense "...."but is josh part of that??" ..."well yeah.."😂😂
Khalil Shakir and Amari Cooper are the only proven and consistent help for Josh allen
James cook
Is better than both of them
I'd argue Kincaid too. He's always been his 2nd and 3rd down safety blanket. People just overhate cause he doesn't have the stats
Bro Bills got plenty of help . Yall just underrated the bills
I don't know how we need to fix the defense, better coach, different players, draft? Definitely disappointing to see Josh play so well and we still lose.
Thank you James. Sunday's game was an outlier where the opposing team played lights out on offense. Just feels like very few defenses in the league would have slowed Stafford and Puka down on Sunday.
Are you a honest fan of mine?
I didn’t like Shady on Speak, but I love him on the Facility. Dude came a long way - he and James Jones are my favorites.
Any QB that is asked to score 45 points just to win is being asked too much. Dude literally put up the most points in a loss in Bills history. Guy scored 6 tds himself in a way that has never been done, ever, in a regular season with 3 tds passing/running each. Also teams that scored 6 tds with no turnovers WERE 245-0. ZERO!! Well he is the first to be let down that way in NFL history.
They asked Stafford to score more than 42...and he did. All the easy broken TDs were Josh completing short passes that lead to missed tackles and 40 yard tds....How is that NOT help. Stafford had to drive the field every time working THE WHOLE FIELD without the luxury of using his running as a crutch when things weren't working.
Also, give all the credit that you want for those 1 yard td lunges hahaahha. Super badass:)
As a bills Fan I’m totally disappointed in this team’s defense and the coaching. It’s the same thing every year Josh and the offense showed out but the defense checked out.
This lose I consider worse then the 13 second game it was the defense letting the team and fans down for four quarters !
@@chrismichael1547 Fun fact, Stafford didn't score 44 points. He did not even lead his offense to 44 points. His special teams got 7 for him. 44-7=37. So no he was not asked to score that many. Also, to be technical, he only had 2 td's, not 6. So there are some flaws to your argument. Of course he led the scoring drives and looked like prime, gunslinger Stafford with 2 studs at WR, but he was not asked nor did he carry that the way Allen did.
The transition period of him adjusting to all the new players on his offense has honestly been immaculate. He can’t do it all tho . Need some defense in there .
They are straight disrespecting Shakir
Stop discrediting his team. Shakir took a slant 57 yards, Ty took a screen for 41 yards. The 3 (1- yard tds) he could of easily handed those off. His other passing td was beautiful.
@micwest3983 It's how you utilize your weapons brother. Pat's been dinking and dunking for two years and he's on pace for a three peat. Win the game.
How often do Ty and Shakir do that though? Cmon now. Those two are not scaring anyone. Are they trash? No, but they're not even as good as Zay or DJ Moore... guys of that caliber.
No Kincaid and Coleman our red zone and 3rd down threats. Amari is a pro Bowler and had 1200 yards last year with Joe Flac&co. Cook is a perennial 1000 yard scrimmage player. Shakir 😤 the best receiver in terms of YAC check the numbers and catch %. Mack Hollins is the definition of a role player reminds me of Hines Ward in the blocking game he’s never a negative to have if you don’t have to depend on him every series. 25 is my favorite RB ever, Top 3 in Bills history imo but he’s buggin🤦🏾♂️ Honorable Mentions to Ray Davis Dawson Knox
I think this was just an occurrence of our defense from a long road trip, we can tighten up for Detroit that way there’s no “help” argument, the defense just needs to be healthy for the playoffs
Are you a honest fan of mine?
3 weeks ago everyone up there said Lamar was top 2. And inbetween that it was Joe.
They not even consistent with who they like😂
Shady stay making excuses for players he played for or like😂
Ah youre black. Okay😅
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Mannn what is shady talking about, give Herbert Cook, Kincaid, Cooper and Shakir and see what happens, Josh Allen does NOT need more help
Herbert had eckler mike Williams Keenan allen and lost in the playoffs to Jacksonville what are you talking about?🤣
This was probably the dumbest comment up here
He wasn’t talking about offensively
To be honest, Herbert had that, coaching was the issue over there
@@D.ocument.The.Journey you’re missing my point, it doesn’t matter if he gets better weapons, he won’t win with that coaching, I brought up Herbert because he’s had that and still couldn’t win cause of coaching, 6 tds and losing is insane
Yep..
They all just made the case for Josh to be MVP for sure 👏🙌
So all year long they’ve been saying Josh is doing better because they’ve been run heavy. This is the first time ever all season. The flip flopping is crazy
@@phil-f716 I mean there's only three elite passers in the game. Stafford, Burrow and Mahomes. Herbert potentially. He has to prove it in the playoffs though.
Great stuff James
Why are we talking about a team with a top 10 defense, a number of playmakers offensively, and is 10-3 as if they’re .500 and Josh Allen is far and away carrying them through the season.
Guess what reciever on the bills has the most tds? Mack hollins. A special team player. 🤣🤣🤣
Josh is just being Josh! He can’t stop being what he is. If he is on the field big plays with him are going to happen!
I don't think they ask too much, i think he volunteers too much. I'm a Josh Allen fan but even when there's better options Josh will do it himself just to get the praise. This cat loves the camera. 😅
He probably doesnt trust the players and why would he? Ok recievers and ok run game. Amari cooper isnt even schemed into the offense well josh is just good asf at making something happen out of nothing
I mean, the defense let up 44 points though.
You're not a JA fan if you think this 😂😂😂if you think he cares more about the stats and praise than the win, you are not a fan. Why do people get on the Internet to tell misinformation and lie?😭😭
That is possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The happiest I have seen him after a game was last year after the Cowboys win when he literally barely threw the ball or contributed, and he was so damn happy to see him teammates thrive and get all of the credit. I just think there are some people in life, like you, that do not understand insane internal competive drive to get a monumental job done. He gets it, therefore he steps up, and he does it because he is an intense competitor that will do anything to win. He would be happy to hand off the damn ball everytime if it meant winning. Or, he will use his legs, head, arm, and ability to get the job done if that is what it requires to win.
@@gunerz3146 Don't give trolls oxygen.
They’re asking for way too much.. they’re on some bs. 6 TDS and yal lose? Tf is the defense doing at this point fr
Poor thing. Do you want some cheese with that whine?
They’re 10-3, the defense is doing their job; we can’t really base whether they’re asking too much of him off of one game
@@charlesledbetter907Are you slow? Where was this person whining? It’s facts.
@ you have two rolls under your chin instead of talking to me you should be at your local planet fitness 🤡
Now Josh don't have any help 😂💀
I don't think they watch bills games josh has enough on offense they should be talking about defense they don't have a guy who can make a play when needed like Jones for kc watt for Pitt Garrett for cle bosa with 49ers but those guys are hard to find I think the defense didn't have energy vs rams cuz they were rolling up to that point
these so called critics are crazy! the Bills have so many players with touchdowns and when Josh Allen has an incredible game then all of a sudden he's the only player on the team! GTFOOH!!
I don't think y'all watch football
These are no name players. U obviously do not watch football, only way to be this dumb
Iight he has help on offense, but bro put up 6 TDs no turnovers… that defense is the definition of no help
We all know this loss landed on the defense shoulders. Then McDermott’s time management is terrible.
James jones always speaking facts per usual
The issue is the Bills when they play other high superstar talent players in huge games Allen gets no help. Someone else can make a play is the point. And his coach often chokes is the biggest of moments during these massive showdowns. Bills could have won that game if McDermott didnt panic and burn a TO. Bills defense better show up in the playoffs or its may be the same thing again. Smh
The textbook example of recency bias, up until last week these same people are saying that they finally got him some help and he doesn't have to be superman all time, I mean, damn.
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How can you sit there and say Josh has no help when the offense put up 42 points? Also no mention of Shakir absolutely hurts
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Not asking too much of Josh. If the defense forces one punt or turnover its a different game. The defense needs to olay better on the road. Rams played a great game. The Bills now have a bigger challenge on the road agaisnt the Lions. Go Bills!
When Pat puts the cape on in the 4th Quarter. It's the best we've ever seen.
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Bills depend on nickel and run blitzing. When we play with a lead we dominant since teams become pass happy. When we off balance you can run up and down on us. Then we start run blitzing and get beat with the pass
Shady’s diamonds were dancing this segment damn !😂
Everyone acts like Mahomes has had a top 5 defense his whole career. He just started receiving that benefit the past 2-3 years. I watched him get to OT in the AFC championship against Tom Brady and he won his first Superbowl with a bottom 10 defense. So as a top tier QB you can definitely overcome deficiencies
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Josh has Cook Shakir Cooper Davis Hollins Johnson the OL is lit this year (finally) D is the problem (in tough games) not the O.
No one is bringing up the blocked punt that was returned for a touchdown...if that punt had gone off, the entire game could have been different
No blocked punt for a TD, get a stop (whether due to false starts or holds or whatever... just get off the field 1-2x), let's not over react
If it wasn’t for the blocked punt the bills would’ve won but I give it to the rams for playing a good game and pulling it off.
Really balanced team....man has the most TDs in football rn 😂😂
James jones up there speaking in hindsight. All of a sudden josh got help but the story coming into the season is they have NOTHING. Now josh hooping and its he got some help he got some pieces. Amari Cooper wasnt the difference between missing the playoffs and the not winning the division. 9/10 its Josh and pick a wr vs A whole weapons room on the other side
Shakir doesn’t get any respect. Most underrated player in the NFL
Totally agree with shady
Except for Jones, these guys are acting like this is the only bills game they watch this year. Players offense can depend on: cooper, shakir, kinkaid, cook, Knox. And by the way this o line is outstanding this year. Are there teams in the NFL that present matchup problems for our defense? Yes! But you can say that for 31 other teams as well. Bottom line is, the bills fell behind in a game early and it turned into a shootout that we lost by 2. Calm down. The sky is not falling this is still a 10-3 team with an MVP qb
The defense 8th in points allowed and 2nd in points per game. Josh really ain’t being asked to do a lot but the way he plays he’s gonna give it!!! On defense Terrell Bernard and taron johnson are our studs injuries destroyed us last year on defense. Also ed Oliver is a name to throw out there along with Milano
Guy keeps talking about rushing numbers but fails to mention Josh is half the run game too
Preach shady. All them other qbs got at least 1 star outside of him. Jost playing with 3 and 4th stringers and a rookies
Amari Cooper ????
@@michaelnance8917not a superstar
James cook is headed for his second pro bowl he's actually been over used
Yall spent like 4 years saying that Lamar needed to elevate his teammates but now josh has no help lol
@thatgwana took the words right out of my mouth lol. This is facts
Why don't you guys talk about the team that just over 500 that he's played.It's only four teams
Lamar lost to gardiner minshew😅
Are you kidding. Im a Josh fan but also a Patrick fan. Also a Lamar fan. They are all great. Stafford can't do that without those two recievers. The other three. All the time with minimal stars.
Aye Acho did he solidify your vote yet? Ion got a vote, but I'm convinced
His receiver Shakir is all world like they’re just not giving him credit
Mahomes literally carried the chiefs to a Super Bowl when they had no business being there 😑😒
The Chiefs carry Mahomes to the SB that's how it's been.
@@Beastmode95not true at all but ok
@@daquaylenavie3740the defense carries that team. If also helps that they get away with more holding penalties than any other team too
@@gonzalomanriquezjr864it's a team game. Mahomes leads the best 3rd down offense and best time of possession offense in the league. If you don't understand how that helps a defense, you have no business in this conversation
Your Bills couldn't beat them that's why they was there. Back to Back Superbowls. Last season they beat you at your house in the snow. Of course the season before that Chiefs house. Ijs
JOSH ALLEN IS THE BEST INDIVIDUAL FOOTBALL PLAYER IN THE NFL!
*this season
Impact players on Bills: Taron Johnson, Rousseau, Benford, Bernard, Shakir, Cook, Dawkins, Spencer Brown. Just because they’re not “names” doesn’t mean they’re not very good. Bills lost a lot of “names” last year but those players didn’t make the team better than it is this year. They were living off reputation from previous years. Current roster is in the process of cresting that reputation. Just a complete overreaction to a single game.
Shady thought you were a bills fan sounds like your a heater we don't need the help played a really good team
This conversation is ridiculous. Just because some players don't have big names doesn't mean they're not reliable. Just has the most reliable receiver in the NFL in Shakir. He also has an OLine better than most and definitely the best in the AFC. Josh can have bad games and win. The only QB that can't have a bad game and has to be perfect every game to the point where he can't throw a pick in a game is Tua. The Josh fetishization from people os too much man. That boy got hella help.
Agree comments Bills defense can gave bad game. Quarter, half.
Refs were not giving rams flags when needed...plus defense failed us.
You joking? 3 and out on the first drive but a bogus roughing call let the Bills continue the drive...td that shouldn't have happened...Took another big play away with a weirdly fake OPI call...Rams took the penalty and scored a TD anyway...Rams got a fishy holding penalty...overcame the 10 yards and scored a td...You sick man. Rams have SB DNA, something the Bills have NEVER shown..............Literally........Ever. So glad I don't live in that dump ahha.
Plain and simple the reason they lost is because of the blocked punt. That was the extra possession with points.
Or the fact that the Rams scored basically every time they had the ball. Seems like, if you look at the drive results...they probably score a TD after returning the punt....I doubt they were going TD, TD, TD, Punt, TD, TD, TD...just bc you said so.
Stafford hit at least 4 passes in that game that Allen simply is not capable of hitting. Not due to arm talent, Allen has plenty. He just doesn't have anywhere in the vicinity of Stafford's ability to place a ball. Different leagues. Josh makes up for that by cheaping all them rushing yards, which makes him the most dangerous dude in the NFL...but it's basically just a glitch/spam play...meh.
It could be me but Josh Allen has always been superman and since they picked up amari cooper they havent lost a game until the rams game and in my eyes the rams just performed a little bit better to beat the bills
They have a defensive coach and the defense always let's them down the coach should have been fired in 13 seconds
Josh Allen MVP 🤘🔥🤘
The defense has to get stops!!!
Why they do not even bring up Shakir. Wild.
I wouldnt trade Josh for Pat at all. Not even close.
“Asking too much too often” now you gotta tase of Lamar goes through.
Side note, bills only beat 2 teams with a winning record 🙃
Love Shady... He will argue that a door is blue and everybody will aggry with him and he'll say but the door is blue though...like blue blue... And get everyone to disagree...lol
Two best QBs of this generation are Lamar and Mahomes objectively.
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Its not objective sir. When lamar droos to 2-5 in the playoffs a lot of us are going to question him.
@@HockeyDudeJames2 no way you can say a guy with no MVPs, no first team all pro selections, no Super Bowl is the best of a generation. You gotta have some accolades to define a generation.
@@chrischilds368 Allen has an all pro though
@ 2nd team and that was a weird year. Him and Burrow split the vote for 2nd team, which I don’t think has ever happened before for the QBs. Both Allen and Burrow were given 2nd team honors. I almost look at those all pro selections with an asterisk.
It’s about when he has to be Superman not being Superman every time. Defense doesn’t show up against good teams, that’s the issue.
They never had a segment like this for when Lamar had to be Superman for years or Joe Burrow being Superman 💀
Name a game where burrow or Lamar had 6 touchdowns and lost. Teams were literally 250-0 when they score 6 touchdowns and have no turnovers before that game 😭. I get that the ravens and bengals ask a lot out of Lamar and burrow but this is a reasonable segment.
Yet Nick Wright will go on this network and continually say “the media doesn’t criticize Lamar Jackson”
Thank you Lamar had to be Superman for years and got it done 💯💯
Superman for years?
Are you talking about the worst statistical mvp in years carried by the number 1 defense? The guy who dropped less then 14 points in the playoffs twice? THAT guy?
Lamar gets too much criticism. That's true. But Joe???? This is the first time he's getting SOME criticism, and it's valid. Lamar's playoff struggles are fair game too. Josh. He's solid in the regular season and solid in the playoffs every year. He got criticized for that 9-30 game for sure. But he's only loss 3 games this year and really only had 2 bad games
IF NOT for Josh Allen, Bills DO NOT win 5 straight Years Division Titles. NOT EVEN close!!
You put up 42 points how Josh don’t have help lol😂
He had multiple very short passes broken for 40-50 yard tds...looked like help. Rams had longer/tougher td drives...and still scored more.
Bills have help, the help has just been out with injuries the last couple weeks
Sometimes McCoy talks to talk cause Josh definitely can depend on shakir and there on been one game Josh had to go crazy and that’s against the rams he keep bringing up Baltimore lost which was week 4 two different teams now
Allen is much better than Lamar and Borrow for 5 years in a row with more touchdowns, they will never match him. That's why he is Superman and not Lamar, Borrow or Mahomes. But these have more publicity than Allen, that's why the zebras and the NFL help these QBs. But he is what he is. Allen is much better. I can't imagine that if the Bills had that help, Allen would have 6 MVPs in a row and 5 Superbowls. LOL. (A fact, Mahomes had 2 fewer interceptions than Allen last year and they said that Allen was the worst, that's the help I'm referring to.)
Way better. I have Burrow above Lamar but both, if you put them on the Ravens they have a sb. Both are far superior to lamar.
Nah he needs to use what he has just like they said Lamar had to do
Do these guys not see Shakir out there being a top 10 WR all year long?
All do respect shady. That take of if he doesn't play well they get blown out is COMPLETELY incorrect. The ravens loss this year was the first in the last 50 games now I believe. That they lost by more than 1 score. Literally do anything BUT get blown out.
Bro, the only reason Buffalo lost is because of the block point.
Bill's defense is absolutely embarrassing
This is the first time that these three characters think the same as McCoy. They were always against Allen, this year Allen plays way below what he is, now they want him, I don't understand it.
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I like when chase pretends that he can say people aren't talented. Buddy you were terrible in the league
statistically u can hardly tell he was in the league
Coach just gotta make better decisions when its down to the wire
For years Josh could exhale with Diggs; now that the tables have turned it’s a problem🤔😂🤔🤣 - Mahomes and Burrow could exhale for years; first year out of 7 years for Lamar to have an elite weapon, someone besides Lamar that teams fear - it is what it is - Josh wanted team ball he got it 😭😭😭
and yet he's still averaging more points with his worse weapons, and has as a far better record then both lol, this isn't the argument you think it is.
No running game , situational 🏈 🤷🏽♂️