Enjoying the proper use of the accelerator is the best part of having one's own vehicle. Never having to wait for a ride is the next best part. Heading over to the snow video, as I'm looking at these as the next tires for my car.
It may not make a noticeable difference in noise level. but it does take away the PING sound, lake a basketball hitting the floor sound. Smack your hand on an inflated tire without the foam and then one with the foam, you can hear the difference
Just read article about Goodyear and their foam tires, two identical sets of tires, one with form and one without, same car, same road. Road noise was much more pronounced in the tires without the foam.
I just replaced my original tires on my LR dual motor Model 3 at just under 17K miles. Based on your video and a LOT of comparisons I elected to go with the Conti Pure Contact Exo. I originally was leaning to Michelin Pro Sport, and I actually was surprised that my salesperson at Mavis Tires recommended the Continentals over the Michelins even though I saved over 400 dollars. I noticed the difference immediately upon leaving the parking lot after the installation. After a week on the tires here are my immediate thoughts in the cabin. Smoother ride, quieter in the cabin and handling seems more positive. These tires are rated for 35k miles but that remains to be seen. I am not an aggressive driver as I grew out of that after playing with the car after the first six months of ownership. I only do hard accelerations on demo rides. So far, I've sold at least 4 Tesla's that I know of. Thanks again for your reviews. Great advice.
I got my 2020 model 3 long range awd with 18s. I plan on getting a set of aftermarket 19s with these tires and keep 18s for a dedicated winter set incase needed.
Great video! I am having a set installed today. I drive the hell out of my Model 3. I only got 17k miles out of the back tires. You can't put a $$$ on fun!
Appreciate the info, my Y has just 3K miles after 7 months of ownership so I won't be needing tires for years. But I won't be replacing them with ANY tire with the foam crap.
I have the Pilot Sport 4 Acoustic on my Model3 the tires decrease the noise levels only by 1-3 decibel which is not much. The biggest benefit from these type of tires is the change of the frequency of the sound. Perceived noise levels are noticeably lower. Rolling noise is thumpier more blunt driving 130 km/h on the highway as opposed the high frequency sound. Hope this helps
Yes, it helps. You mention considerations that I hadn't thought of. The issue of "perceived" noise due to the frequency of the sound may be a key factor to using foam. This is way deeper than I wanted to go into the issue. 😞 But it still leaves me wondering whether to try the foam-less tyres. It's not as if we can take them back after a few weeks of ownership if they turn our irritatingly noisy!
Michelin does tire studies on rolling resistance . Fuel saving. That low difference one tire close to wear out . That gain fuel mileage the more they wear . Comparing the last 10,000 to the other tire for a better number. Sounds like you like them and they make you comfortable. That what important to me . Have Michelin a /s 4 . Looking at those to replace on my v8 sedan. Think get with Michelin. Because run there tires on my cars and fleet on semi trucks for years .
Model 3 2021 AWD LR 33K miles OEM Continental ProContact RX Following Mr. TeslaGuy's advice and replacing with the PureContact LS We'll see how it goes! EDIT: 32,000 miles later, and still going strong!
Tesla model X 22 inch. Continental DWS 06 tires are great in every way in Northern VA snow/rain. I think they are more comfortable then the OEM Perelli‘s. The only downside is the slight increase in Wh per mile.
Ok, I'm finally getting ready to replace my tires on my model 3. The tires have an incredible 77,000+ miles on them. Tread is worn but not bald. Have had the car for 42 months. Continental. I'm replacing with the same tires as I've had no issues with these. Worth the extra money in my book.
@@Anchor7 it's a very subjective thing. Personally I don't notice a difference than any other car. Road noise don't bother me unless it's very obvious and starts to get annoying.
How has your efficiency/range been on the Extreme Contact DWS06 tires? I'm finding mixed reviews and curious to add another data point. Thanks in advance
Excellent vid Mike. I've been mulling over getting these for a few weeks now after seeing your first vid. My LR RWD w/19s is also at 37k miles. It was either the Contis or the Bridgestone Quietraks. My lifetime over 37k is 253 Wh/mi. I floor my car all the time... Maybe 10-20 times a day. I don't the increase in Wh/mi is because of that. It's from the new tires. I think I will choose these over the Quietraks. Quietrak users mostly report an increase in consumption. You only went up approx 10 Wh/mi. I drive a lot and often in mountains so the efficiency is important to me.
Next, try Michelin Energy Saver A/S tires, they're the most energy efficient tires I've ever tested, but, the traction in snow may or may not be quite as good. They will last a long time.
Hmm. I would never have used the terms TESLA and FRUGAL in the same sentence. Nevertheless, I appreciate the deep dive review on these tires. One model tires I am considering as replacement on my V6 Camry. Thanks!
I'm now on my second set of these tires and still like them. However, the sidewalls are easily damaged if you're not careful when parallel parking next to a curb. In fact, I totaled two tires when the sidewalls grazed a lane separating curb.
I was told by a big tire store, if tire has sound insulation foam, they cannot fix a flat. Another tire company claimed they cut out the foam, plug the hole, patch inside and replace cut out foam. My local Tesla service center refused to fix a flat when hole was more than 1" from tire center-line. They hide behind ridiculous safety concerns and want to profit from sale of 4 new tires.
Les Schwab fixed two or three flats when I had the originals and never had any issues. They just cut the foam away and actually don't replace it. You can see an image of what it looks like in my original new tires video.
Mike I bought exact same tires replacing original one after 33k miles. I will be getting them put on this week once delivered to installers near my home. Hoping I will get similar experience like you did . 👍🏻
35,000 miles of hard driving in my Model S and replaced Michelins with same tires without sound deadening foam that tire guy said was useless. Thought I noticed an immediate increase in road noise in the first block I drove and that sensation of increased noise was consistent. Anyone else have the same experience?
Could the driving efficiency be due to the fact that the new LS tires' efficiency was calculated during winter months, vs the stock ones during warmer weather?
I have a 2020 M3 SR. I’ve driven with the 19 inch OEM Continental Procontact tires for 70K miles. I recently replaced them with the Continental Purecontact LS. The only difference I’ve noticed is that the Purecontacts are not as efficient as the OEM Procontacts. There is around a 8% delta I’m observing so far.
Did you change the tire pressure during Winter driving? If the tire pressure is dropped just a bit from the recommended 42psi (on my Model Y LR) to, say 39psi the resultant wider tread patch should provide a better grip. If this pressure were maintained in Summer there would be a noticeable reduction in range due to the extra friction induced as "rolling resistance". The approach is simply to lower the pressure in Winter and return it to spec in Summer. In Redding the hot Summer and minimal Winter snow and ice may not necessitate this kind of adjustment but I'd be interested to hear any thoughts you may have on this idea. In Colorado, we encounter about 3-4 months of hard winter driving so I'll be trying this approach myself. Thanks and drive safely.
I just spent yesterday researching new tires for my Model 3, so of course, your video popped up now. These are the tires I'm looking to get later this summer. I have 18" tires on my duel motor so I'm excited to see how these perform. I don't understand the stock tires...the cost is absurd, the ratings are so poor compared to most other options out there, and they wear out wayyy too fast. Thanks for putting this together. It really confirms that I am going with a good alternative to the stock option soon. Also, I do use the Michelin X Ice snow tires in the winter and they have worked out extremely well. I was completely unable to spin out with them.
2018 Tesla M3P AWD. One month after I got it I removed those 235/35/zr20 92y tires, I replaced them with NITTO 235/35/zr 20 92w. I replaced them because the factory tires were a nail/screw magnet. My first month and I had to pay to replace the tire ($450) at Tesla. I my tires from tire rack fro a fraction of the cost. I have 37k miles on them and no more nails, tires sound the same or I can’t tell, and to be honest, I don’t care about tire noise.
My 19’ continentals have had screws and nails in everyone of them. Most times just pull out and don’t have to patch them. They seem to seal themselves but popped two on passenger side by a pothole. 600 dollars for two tires
Excellent, excellent tire review! I would love to install tires that are just one size wider on my Model 3's, 18" rims, because I am tire of curbing my wheels so easily.
I got my 2018 AWD in late November 2018. Living in Québec Canada, we must install Snow tire, by law, when i checked with my regular tire shop, he could not get the std 18" size 235/45 R 18, he suggested going one size up (it is ok as long as you do not exceed 3% in tire roration / mile) I accepted and he installed 245/45 R 18. I have now driven two winters with these, first they fit so much better the std 18" Tesla wheels, the rubber is almost 1/2" outside of the rims, they are fantastic in the snow, i will never go back to std specs, ever if there may be a small penalty in electron consumption, the looks and stance is worth it.
Ive got 245 on a 7J wide aftermarket wheel (7,5J stock) for extra kerb protection and its lovely! I use my tesla for my drivingschool so i regularly hit kerbs with the front or rear wheels. After 1.5years 0 damage.
So Mike I was ready to get the Pure Contact LS which had a great promo. then the promo ended at my tire shop. So I ended switching to Bridgestone Quiet Tracks.... 1000 miles later. .. uh... Big mistake. 800 treadwear rating is way too stiff for Model 3 already stiff suspension. Tracks poorly, very bouncy. Especially on grooved and rough pavement. I had to lower the air pressure to 38-39 psi. Noisier than OEM too. I will hope to switch to Pure Contact LS in a year or so as this has a 700 treadwear rating, should be softer.
@@dcdttu yes... My consumption increased from 258 wH/mi to 272 wH/mi... At forst it was even higher but as the tires wore It did improve to 272. I do drive more highway though now than before so that does have an effect... But still, it's still 5% less efficient. When you drive a lot of long distances and to rural places without charging, that 5% diff really adds up.
I live in the Los Angeles area where we rarely ever get rain and I was debating between the new Pirelli Cinturato P7 all season plus 2 and the Purecontact LS. I read the Pirelli plus 2’s are improved over the original Pirelli Plus’s. What do you think?
Thanks for the video. I have the same car Model 3 LR RWD with 19inch wheels. The choice for me came down to Continental PureContact LS at Discount Tire or Michelin Pilot Sport 4 AS at Costco. Continental had higher mileage warranty but Michelin had better traction, lower braking distance and higher speed rating. Costo had a deal on Michelin tires and includes free road hazard coverage so I went with Michelins. Initial impresssion is that ride is more comfortable and less rattling over bumps although this could just be the difference between worn out tires and new tires. Wet traction is definetly much better than my oem Continentals. For my driving a small drop in effeciency is not a concern so I am ok with that. Overall I am happy with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 AS.
This was a great video. I really don’t want to stay with the same tires if there are cheaper options out there. I’d also like to know if nitrogen helps as well.
just saw this......the UTQG for Tesla tires is 700AA.....a harder tire and probably the reason you efficiency is at 250......the new tires are 400AA and should have more road resistance causing your efficiency to go up to 261......I think I am right about this
Any experience with Michelin MXM4 (55k - thread warranty) vs Continental Pure Contact LS? That seems to be a good choice for Tesla Model 3 19 inch wheels too. Available in Costco as well.
I have a hard time with Costco and sams club and mavis discount tire getting them to install this continental pure contact LS on my model 3 AWD in NJ. Sams and mavis don’t want to touch tesla at all. Costco highly recommend to go elsewhere with very limited tire choices for 19 inch wheels. They don’t carry continental brand and won’t install any other brand tire which is less in speed rating. Speed rating V is upto 149 miles per hour is not good enough for my model 3. 😳
Are you still happy with the Tires. Have you noticed an increase in road noise? My understanding is that these tires should give a much more comfortable ride than the ProContacts. Do you agree with that?
@@FrugalTeslaGuy Mike, thanks for the feedback. From what others seem to indicate it was significantly smoother and quieter, likely because it is new tires more than anything it sounds like. Also thank you for your videos! I enjoy them very much!
I've had three flats on the original tires on my Model 3. All three were repaired at Discount Tire without a problem. Thinking of putting light truck tires on just to avoid flats. Just kidding of course. I don't see how the foam reduces noise, the sound is generated between the tire and the pavement, it doesn't come from inside the tire. Good video, thanks.
Thanks for the review! It’s really informative. I am considering buying these tires for my 2018 M3AWD LR but only worried about range impact, there are a lot of mixed results online and it’s confusing. I would really appreciate if you could do a video update on these again focusing on range impact. Thanks
What time of year you take measurements can really affect the efficiency. I am wondering if his stats for the stock tires (only 8000 miles) was during warmer weather overall than his full year's worth of driving on the new tires, but he'd have to reply for us to be sure. I am at 254 Wh/mi on my '18 Model 3 LR RWD with about 27k miles on them - and I need to replace my stock tires soon.
Thanks for that review. But I had the belief that the foam in the original tyres was to help reduce cabin noise from the wheels. It would be nice to have some decibel readings to compare the originals to the new ones w/o the foam. Even though you no longer use the originals, perhaps you have a local who has the same car with original tyres and you could use the same measuring tool in each. (After all, you are a public servant 😉)
In my humble opinion the foam doesn't make a difference based on my experience. If it does, it's very minimal. I didn't do a decibel test in my first tire video but played audio from the same stretch of highway with both sets of tires.
@@FrugalTeslaGuy it’s an interesting issue as when a puncture has to be repaired apparently the foam is destroyed and therefore a new tyre is required. Thankfully it hasn’t happened to me yet but I’m keenly interested so will keep looking into it. But despite all that, it’s so great to be able to drive without burning fossil fuels.
@@petrosinoz It has happened to me. You don't have to replace the tire if you go somewhere like Tesla (as I did) where they will cut-out the section of foam where the puncture is & patch the puncture spot. But a lot of tire shops won't do that (like Tire Kingdom). And it isn't cheap; Tesla charges about $80 for that repair, whereas some shops will do a patch to a regular tire for free as a courtesy (like TK).
@@christopherm.6094: Thanks, good to know. Except that if I get a puncture I’d use the tyre repair gunk I bought from Tesla which I understand will render the tyre subsequently unrepairable. I hope that elaboration explains my question.
@@petrosinoz Hey Peter, one more thing to know then is that the sealant gunk may not make it into the puncture hole if it is in the tread where the foam is (foam gets in the way). Lots of good conversation & ideas about all this on either Tesla Owners Online or TMC forum (sorry that I'm forgetting which one!). Some folks have even had a shop remove their tires & rip-out all the foam to avoid the possible hassles. I'm going to call more shops in my area to see who else will do this type of repair (hopefully cheaper than Tesla) so I'm ready for the next time....
This is helpful. With less than 7,000 miles on my brand new Tesla Model Y I took my car to have my tires rotated. To my alarm, the inside tread on the front tires were bald and would not pass the state inspection. It was clear that Tesla delivered the car without aligning the tires. I notified Tesla in Peabody believing that this was clearly a warranty issue. His reply: Good Afternoon John, This is Blake from Tesla Service in Peabody. Unfortunately, both alignments and tires are not covered under your vehicle warranty as they are a wear and tear item. There are many factors which contribute to a vehicle's alignment which could have led to the kind of wear in the photos. We can keep the appointment for the 3rd at this time so that we can order 4 new tires if you wish. We can send you the estimate for them and the alignment through the app or I can attach it to this email if you prefer. Best, Blake Williamson | Service Advisor 210 Andover St. Peabody, MA. 01960 (978) 326 1623 ext. 76204 | blwilliamson@tesla.com Office Hours: Monday - Friday 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
I did not know this; Tesla OEM tires on your car have foam glued to the inside of the tires for noise dampening? If you have a flat tire some garages will not repair the flat due to that foam. Do you have this in your tires?
They can still repair tires with foam, they just cut a piece out for access. The new set of tires I ended up getting do not have foam and road noise isn’t any different.
UTQG is not comparable across different brands; only within the same brand and that brand's "control" tire. My conti dws06 I bought have had a shimmy since day 1 on a 2200 mile wrx. Road force balanced multiple times and 34k mi later the shimmy is still there. Not sure the dws will be back for a rnd 2....
Conti’s all day long. More advanced and better priced. Balanced all season performance. I’m a picky mf and these tires are awesome in my performance car! When They say extreme contact Continental means it!
That was just one of the editable trip cards in the odometer. Instead of trip “a” or “b” I labeled it Rotate Tires at (fill in 7,500 miles later). That way I can go back to it and see when I need to do my next rotation.
What psi do you keep your Pure Contact LS tires at? I filled ours back up to 42psi and they dropped down to 38psi over the past few days. Is that normal?
@@davesilvestri3003 Adjust for the correct pressure in the morning, or whenever time the car has been sitting for 8 hours. Then check the pressure the next day at the same time under the same conditions.
Useful info, thanks. I have same spec car as yours and at 27k miles, original tires look good (two have been replaced, one due to sidewall leak and other from pothole blowout). I wish now I'd gone with the 18" wheels with slightly higher profile tires.
@@FrugalTeslaGuy Keep up the great work! Love watching your videos; especially the ones that are family trips. Wife and I own a 2020 M3 LR AWD and we love it but don't get out too often on longer (over 500 mile) trips. Hoping this summer is different.
If that is true it’s not working for me. I’ve had 3 nails/screws and needed to get the tire patched each time. Thankfully America’s Tire does it for free.
@@22tbond what he write is another art of tires. "pirelli SealInside" or "ContiSeal" are these kind of tires. But the "low noise" Tires are another thing
Enjoying the proper use of the accelerator is the best part of having one's own vehicle. Never having to wait for a ride is the next best part. Heading over to the snow video, as I'm looking at these as the next tires for my car.
It may not make a noticeable difference in noise level. but it does take away the PING sound, lake a basketball hitting the floor sound. Smack your hand on an inflated tire without the foam and then one with the foam, you can hear the difference
One thing I learned on my M3P is rotate the tires around 4k! Especially if you're a Hot Rod grandpa like myself :-)
Just read article about Goodyear and their foam tires, two identical sets of tires, one with form and one without, same car, same road. Road noise was much more pronounced in the tires without the foam.
I just replaced my original tires on my LR dual motor Model 3 at just under 17K miles. Based on your video and a LOT of comparisons I elected to go with the Conti Pure Contact Exo. I originally was leaning to Michelin Pro Sport, and I actually was surprised that my salesperson at Mavis Tires recommended the Continentals over the Michelins even though I saved over 400 dollars. I noticed the difference immediately upon leaving the parking lot after the installation. After a week on the tires here are my immediate thoughts in the cabin. Smoother ride, quieter in the cabin and handling seems more positive. These tires are rated for 35k miles but that remains to be seen. I am not an aggressive driver as I grew out of that after playing with the car after the first six months of ownership. I only do hard accelerations on demo rides. So far, I've sold at least 4 Tesla's that I know of. Thanks again for your reviews. Great advice.
I have the reg 18” wheels with conti extreme contacts. Amazing, did great at big bear and other snowy areas nearby.
Just got these tires for my Model S. The mobile service tech also recommended these. So far I really like them.
I got my 2020 model 3 long range awd with 18s. I plan on getting a set of aftermarket 19s with these tires and keep 18s for a dedicated winter set incase needed.
Good plan. I am going to the same.
Great video! I am having a set installed today. I drive the hell out of my Model 3. I only got 17k miles out of the back tires. You can't put a $$$ on fun!
just the review i needed in terms of it being in all seasons as i live in michigan. thanks for this video!
Appreciate the info, my Y has just 3K miles after 7 months of ownership so I won't be needing tires for years. But I won't be replacing them with ANY tire with the foam crap.
I have 4,351 miles in the first 30 days on my 2021 3LR AWD!
This was so helpful.. There's a stupid amount of tire options out there.
Haha you spoke my mind😂
I have the Pilot Sport 4 Acoustic on my Model3
the tires decrease the noise levels only by 1-3 decibel which is not much.
The biggest benefit from these type of tires is the change of the frequency of the sound.
Perceived noise levels are noticeably lower.
Rolling noise is thumpier more blunt driving 130 km/h on the highway as opposed the high frequency sound.
Hope this helps
the americans dont know about summertires. all the tires he is driving are allweather
Yes, it helps. You mention considerations that I hadn't thought of. The issue of "perceived" noise due to the frequency of the sound may be a key factor to using foam. This is way deeper than I wanted to go into the issue. 😞 But it still leaves me wondering whether to try the foam-less tyres. It's not as if we can take them back after a few weeks of ownership if they turn our irritatingly noisy!
Michelin does tire studies on rolling resistance . Fuel saving. That low difference one tire close to wear out . That gain fuel mileage the more they wear . Comparing the last 10,000 to the other tire for a better number. Sounds like you like them and they make you comfortable. That what important to me . Have Michelin a /s 4 . Looking at those to replace on my v8 sedan. Think get with Michelin. Because run there tires on my cars and fleet on semi trucks for years .
Model 3
2021 AWD LR
33K miles
OEM Continental ProContact RX
Following Mr. TeslaGuy's advice and replacing with the PureContact LS
We'll see how it goes!
EDIT: 32,000 miles later, and still going strong!
Tesla model X 22 inch. Continental DWS 06 tires are great in every way in Northern VA snow/rain. I think they are more comfortable then the OEM Perelli‘s. The only downside is the slight increase in Wh per mile.
Ok, I'm finally getting ready to replace my tires on my model 3. The tires have an incredible 77,000+ miles on them. Tread is worn but not bald. Have had the car for 42 months. Continental. I'm replacing with the same tires as I've had no issues with these. Worth the extra money in my book.
You put 77k miles on a single set of tires? What foam clouds are you driving on?
Haven't seen past 35k out there
77k with no flats? Bull
Thank you for the review
I have had these tires on my dual motor 3 since Dec '18. Love them and will buy another set when the time comes.
How is the road noise on the Pure LS? Thats my main concern, thanks!
@@Anchor7 it's a very subjective thing. Personally I don't notice a difference than any other car. Road noise don't bother me unless it's very obvious and starts to get annoying.
How has your efficiency/range been on the Extreme Contact DWS06 tires? I'm finding mixed reviews and curious to add another data point. Thanks in advance
@@ebw82 Not sure about Extreme Contacts
Hi I have just done 50k on a set of Michelin Sp 4 19’ on a model S and had 2 mm left !
Conti DWS are the go to tires for ally cars as are Blizzak for Snow where I live ( NYS). Nice video as always, keep it up
I don't believe that there is a Blizzak with the load rating required for a Model 3.
Excellent vid Mike. I've been mulling over getting these for a few weeks now after seeing your first vid. My LR RWD w/19s is also at 37k miles. It was either the Contis or the Bridgestone Quietraks. My lifetime over 37k is 253 Wh/mi. I floor my car all the time... Maybe 10-20 times a day. I don't the increase in Wh/mi is because of that. It's from the new tires.
I think I will choose these over the Quietraks. Quietrak users mostly report an increase in consumption. You only went up approx 10 Wh/mi. I drive a lot and often in mountains so the efficiency is important to me.
Just ordered the tires ... been looking for a replacement for the michelin premier A/S tires that got discontinued ...
Next, try Michelin Energy Saver A/S tires, they're the most energy efficient tires I've ever tested, but, the traction in snow may or may not be quite as good. They will last a long time.
Hmm. I would never have used the terms TESLA and FRUGAL in the same sentence.
Nevertheless, I appreciate the deep dive review on these tires. One model tires I am considering as replacement on my V6 Camry.
Thanks!
I bought the same tires for my Model S based on reviews in TireRack. Still happy after 18 months.
Do you notice your efficiency (Wh/mi) to be worse as well?
Sorry, I didn't pay close attention to changes in efficiency. It would make sense if Tesla's OEM tires were super efficient to maximize EPA rating.
I'm now on my second set of these tires and still like them. However, the sidewalls are easily damaged if you're not careful when parallel parking next to a curb. In fact, I totaled two tires when the sidewalls grazed a lane separating curb.
I was told by a big tire store, if tire has sound insulation foam, they cannot fix a flat. Another tire company claimed they cut out the foam, plug the hole, patch inside and replace cut out foam. My local Tesla service center refused to fix a flat when hole was more than 1" from tire center-line. They hide behind ridiculous safety concerns and want to profit from sale of 4 new tires.
Les Schwab fixed two or three flats when I had the originals and never had any issues. They just cut the foam away and actually don't replace it. You can see an image of what it looks like in my original new tires video.
I patched the original conti myself with no issue.
Is great to see a tire review. Way too much attention is focused on appearance items
Mike I bought exact same tires replacing original one after 33k miles. I will be getting them put on this week once delivered to installers near my home. Hoping I will get similar experience like you did . 👍🏻
35,000 miles of hard driving in my Model S and replaced Michelins with same tires without sound deadening foam that tire guy said was useless. Thought I noticed an immediate increase in road noise in the first block I drove and that sensation of increased noise was consistent. Anyone else have the same experience?
Foam does make a noticeable difference
Could the driving efficiency be due to the fact that the new LS tires' efficiency was calculated during winter months, vs the stock ones during warmer weather?
I have these tires (in 245/40R19) on my 2019 SR+. They have been awesome.
I have a 2020 M3 SR. I’ve driven with the 19 inch OEM Continental Procontact tires for 70K miles. I recently replaced them with the Continental Purecontact LS. The only difference I’ve noticed is that the Purecontacts are not as efficient as the OEM Procontacts. There is around a 8% delta I’m observing so far.
Interesting. I’m noticing slightly less efficiency as well. Thanks for sharing.
I didn’t know you could set a time to rotate mileage indication on the mileage card. Time to figure that out.
Did you change the tire pressure during Winter driving? If the tire pressure is dropped just a bit from the recommended 42psi (on my Model Y LR) to, say 39psi the resultant wider tread patch should provide a better grip. If this pressure were maintained in Summer there would be a noticeable reduction in range due to the extra friction induced as "rolling resistance". The approach is simply to lower the pressure in Winter and return it to spec in Summer. In Redding the hot Summer and minimal Winter snow and ice may not necessitate this kind of adjustment but I'd be interested to hear any thoughts you may have on this idea. In Colorado, we encounter about 3-4 months of hard winter driving so I'll be trying this approach myself. Thanks and drive safely.
I just spent yesterday researching new tires for my Model 3, so of course, your video popped up now. These are the tires I'm looking to get later this summer. I have 18" tires on my duel motor so I'm excited to see how these perform. I don't understand the stock tires...the cost is absurd, the ratings are so poor compared to most other options out there, and they wear out wayyy too fast. Thanks for putting this together. It really confirms that I am going with a good alternative to the stock option soon. Also, I do use the Michelin X Ice snow tires in the winter and they have worked out extremely well. I was completely unable to spin out with them.
2018 Tesla M3P AWD. One month after I got it I removed those 235/35/zr20 92y tires, I replaced them with NITTO 235/35/zr 20 92w. I replaced them because the factory tires were a nail/screw magnet. My first month and I had to pay to replace the tire ($450) at Tesla. I my tires from tire rack fro a fraction of the cost. I have 37k miles on them and no more nails, tires sound the same or I can’t tell, and to be honest, I don’t care about tire noise.
My 19’ continentals have had screws and nails in everyone of them. Most times just pull out and don’t have to patch them. They seem to seal themselves but popped two on passenger side by a pothole. 600 dollars for two tires
Excellent, excellent tire review! I would love to install tires that are just one size wider on my Model 3's, 18" rims, because I am tire of curbing my wheels so easily.
Tesla should install tire that are wider than the rims from the factory. Curb rash is real.
@@KJSvitko I think that Tesla is going for maximum range.
I asked, no, BEGGED, my tire shop to do it and they wouldn't. :(
I got my 2018 AWD in late November 2018. Living in Québec Canada, we must install Snow tire, by law, when i checked with my regular tire shop, he could not get the std 18" size 235/45 R 18, he suggested going one size up (it is ok as long as you do not exceed 3% in tire roration / mile) I accepted and he installed 245/45 R 18.
I have now driven two winters with these, first they fit so much better the std 18" Tesla wheels, the rubber is almost 1/2" outside of the rims, they are fantastic in the snow, i will never go back to std specs, ever if there may be a small penalty in electron consumption, the looks and stance is worth it.
Ive got 245 on a 7J wide aftermarket wheel (7,5J stock) for extra kerb protection and its lovely! I use my tesla for my drivingschool so i regularly hit kerbs with the front or rear wheels. After 1.5years 0 damage.
So Mike I was ready to get the Pure Contact LS which had a great promo. then the promo ended at my tire shop. So I ended switching to Bridgestone Quiet Tracks.... 1000 miles later.
.. uh... Big mistake. 800 treadwear rating is way too stiff for Model 3 already stiff suspension. Tracks poorly, very bouncy. Especially on grooved and rough pavement. I had to lower the air pressure to 38-39 psi. Noisier than OEM too.
I will hope to switch to Pure Contact LS in a year or so as this has a 700 treadwear rating, should be softer.
I'm assuming your efficiency took a big hit as well? Those are heavy tires.
@@dcdttu yes... My consumption increased from 258 wH/mi to 272 wH/mi... At forst it was even higher but as the tires wore It did improve to 272. I do drive more highway though now than before so that does have an effect... But still, it's still 5% less efficient. When you drive a lot of long distances and to rural places without charging, that 5% diff really adds up.
I live in the Los Angeles area where we rarely ever get rain and I was debating between the new Pirelli Cinturato P7 all season plus 2 and the Purecontact LS. I read the Pirelli plus 2’s are improved over the original Pirelli Plus’s. What do you think?
@@JohnathansWorld I wish there were better efficiency tests from tirerack and others. At this point we just can’t know.
Thanks for the video. I have the same car Model 3 LR RWD with 19inch wheels. The choice for me came down to Continental PureContact LS at Discount Tire or Michelin Pilot Sport 4 AS at Costco. Continental had higher mileage warranty but Michelin had better traction, lower braking distance and higher speed rating. Costo had a deal on Michelin tires and includes free road hazard coverage so I went with Michelins. Initial impresssion is that ride is more comfortable and less rattling over bumps although this could just be the difference between worn out tires and new tires. Wet traction is definetly much better than my oem Continentals. For my driving a small drop in effeciency is not a concern so I am ok with that. Overall I am happy with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 AS.
How they holding up ?
This was a great video. I really don’t want to stay with the same tires if there are cheaper options out there. I’d also like to know if nitrogen helps as well.
Air is 78% nitrogen, you are paying for additional 22%. Does that seem like a good deal?
just saw this......the UTQG for Tesla tires is 700AA.....a harder tire and probably the reason you efficiency is at 250......the new tires are 400AA and should have more road resistance causing your efficiency to go up to 261......I think I am right about this
Any experience with Michelin MXM4 (55k - thread warranty) vs Continental Pure Contact LS? That seems to be a good choice for Tesla Model 3 19 inch wheels too. Available in Costco as well.
I have a hard time with Costco and sams club and mavis discount tire getting them to install this continental pure contact LS on my model 3 AWD in NJ. Sams and mavis don’t want to touch tesla at all. Costco highly recommend to go elsewhere with very limited tire choices for 19 inch wheels. They don’t carry continental brand and won’t install any other brand tire which is less in speed rating. Speed rating V is upto 149 miles per hour is not good enough for my model 3. 😳
Always informative. Great job.
Thanks for update.
You mention another update on the tires in another year. Are you planning to do one still?
Are you still happy with the Tires. Have you noticed an increase in road noise? My understanding is that these tires should give a much more comfortable ride than the ProContacts. Do you agree with that?
I honestly can’t tell the difference. They perform the same in my opinion, they’re just less expensive making them more appealing.
@@FrugalTeslaGuy Mike, thanks for the feedback. From what others seem to indicate it was significantly smoother and quieter, likely because it is new tires more than anything it sounds like. Also thank you for your videos! I enjoy them very much!
I've had three flats on the original tires on my Model 3. All three were repaired at Discount Tire without a problem. Thinking of putting light truck tires on just to avoid flats. Just kidding of course. I don't see how the foam reduces noise, the sound is generated between the tire and the pavement, it doesn't come from inside the tire. Good video, thanks.
Does this tire have the construction to support the Weight of the Tesla cars - model 3 ?? Thanks for your reply
I put on Pirelli Tires Zero1 All season, but they are noisier (to me) than OEM originals.
Thanks for the review! It’s really informative. I am considering buying these tires for my 2018 M3AWD LR but only worried about range impact, there are a lot of mixed results online and it’s confusing. I would really appreciate if you could do a video update on these again focusing on range impact. Thanks
What time of year you take measurements can really affect the efficiency. I am wondering if his stats for the stock tires (only 8000 miles) was during warmer weather overall than his full year's worth of driving on the new tires, but he'd have to reply for us to be sure. I am at 254 Wh/mi on my '18 Model 3 LR RWD with about 27k miles on them - and I need to replace my stock tires soon.
Thanks for that review. But I had the belief that the foam in the original tyres was to help reduce cabin noise from the wheels. It would be nice to have some decibel readings to compare the originals to the new ones w/o the foam. Even though you no longer use the originals, perhaps you have a local who has the same car with original tyres and you could use the same measuring tool in each. (After all, you are a public servant 😉)
In my humble opinion the foam doesn't make a difference based on my experience. If it does, it's very minimal. I didn't do a decibel test in my first tire video but played audio from the same stretch of highway with both sets of tires.
@@FrugalTeslaGuy it’s an interesting issue as when a puncture has to be repaired apparently the foam is destroyed and therefore a new tyre is required. Thankfully it hasn’t happened to me yet but I’m keenly interested so will keep looking into it. But despite all that, it’s so great to be able to drive without burning fossil fuels.
@@petrosinoz It has happened to me. You don't have to replace the tire if you go somewhere like Tesla (as I did) where they will cut-out the section of foam where the puncture is & patch the puncture spot. But a lot of tire shops won't do that (like Tire Kingdom). And it isn't cheap; Tesla charges about $80 for that repair, whereas some shops will do a patch to a regular tire for free as a courtesy (like TK).
@@christopherm.6094: Thanks, good to know. Except that if I get a puncture I’d use the tyre repair gunk I bought from Tesla which I understand will render the tyre subsequently unrepairable. I hope that elaboration explains my question.
@@petrosinoz Hey Peter, one more thing to know then is that the sealant gunk may not make it into the puncture hole if it is in the tread where the foam is (foam gets in the way). Lots of good conversation & ideas about all this on either Tesla Owners Online or TMC forum (sorry that I'm forgetting which one!). Some folks have even had a shop remove their tires & rip-out all the foam to avoid the possible hassles. I'm going to call more shops in my area to see who else will do this type of repair (hopefully cheaper than Tesla) so I'm ready for the next time....
This is helpful. With less than 7,000 miles on my brand new Tesla Model Y I took my car to have my tires rotated. To my alarm, the inside tread on the front tires were bald and would not pass the state inspection. It was clear that Tesla delivered the car without aligning the tires. I notified Tesla in Peabody believing that this was clearly a warranty issue. His reply: Good Afternoon John,
This is Blake from Tesla Service in Peabody. Unfortunately, both alignments and tires are not covered under your vehicle warranty as they are a wear and tear item.
There are many factors which contribute to a vehicle's alignment which could have led to the kind of wear in the photos.
We can keep the appointment for the 3rd at this time so that we can order 4 new tires if you wish. We can send you the estimate for them and the alignment through the app or I can attach it to this email if you prefer.
Best,
Blake Williamson | Service Advisor
210 Andover St. Peabody, MA. 01960
(978) 326 1623 ext. 76204 | blwilliamson@tesla.com
Office Hours: Monday - Friday 8:00 AM - 5:00 PM
considering getting Goodyear Assurance MaxLife for my Tesla Model 3, RWD, 19" wheels. Any experience with these? Thanks.
Any updates two years later?
One shop told me these tires have a speed rating of 96V but the car is supposed to have 96W or better so they wouldn’t sell me these 96V tires.
You need to fix the focus. Your face has blur and the screen is super behind you is super clear.
No one wants to look at my face anyway. Lol! Auto focus cameras can be finicky at times.
@@FrugalTeslaGuy LOL
I did not know this; Tesla OEM tires on your car have foam glued to the inside of the tires for noise dampening? If you have a flat tire some garages will not repair the flat due to that foam. Do you have this in your tires?
They can still repair tires with foam, they just cut a piece out for access. The new set of tires I ended up getting do not have foam and road noise isn’t any different.
I had these on my Volt and loved them, though for Model X I just re-bought the same ones on the car, same for Model S
UTQG is not comparable across different brands; only within the same brand and that brand's "control" tire. My conti dws06 I bought have had a shimmy since day 1 on a 2200 mile wrx. Road force balanced multiple times and 34k mi later the shimmy is still there. Not sure the dws will be back for a rnd 2....
Great tire. I prefer the Michelin All Season 4. They cost more than the DWS but the handling is superior.
Not in all conditions.
@@Jwdude123...that's why you drive for conditions...but many ppl think their ability is greater than any road condition...
If you own a tesla how can not want to have fun with the accelerator?
How do you add the rotation notes to your tire pressure card?
I have 21k still original Continentals
Hey. Do you have to change any settings after replacing tires from the oems that came with it originally? Thanks
Nope.
Conti’s all day long. More advanced and better priced. Balanced all season performance. I’m a picky mf and these tires are awesome in my performance car! When They say extreme contact Continental means it!
4 pump car jacks under the car at once?
I have m3LR, I never noticed the rotation notification on the screen, where is that ?
That was just one of the editable trip cards in the odometer. Instead of trip “a” or “b” I labeled it Rotate Tires at (fill in 7,500 miles later). That way I can go back to it and see when I need to do my next rotation.
Ahh, good idea
@@FrugalTeslaGuy thats great. I do it on my wife's M3 LR b ut can't do it or re-lable the screens in the MS
You think the stock 18 inch tesla wheel & tires get more range than the 19 inch?
Yes
@@FrugalTeslaGuy Ok Thank You.
Do you guys have to use your POV for work Mike? Or does the station provide vehicles?
I don’t need a car for work other than getting there and back. The reporters use station vehicles out in the field.
@@FrugalTeslaGuy I was just curious with the amount of miles. But then I realize you absolutely love driving it so that makes sense.
Where is the best place to wash a model 3 in Redding
Not sure. I hand wash my car.
What psi do you keep your Pure Contact LS tires at? I filled ours back up to 42psi and they dropped down to 38psi over the past few days. Is that normal?
Did you check and fill your tires first thing in the morning before driving?
@@Garrison169 the sensors read low in the morning but we had filled them up in late afternoon and they dropped.
@@davesilvestri3003 Adjust for the correct pressure in the morning, or whenever time the car has been sitting for 8 hours. Then check the pressure the next day at the same time under the same conditions.
Useful info, thanks. I have same spec car as yours and at 27k miles, original tires look good (two have been replaced, one due to sidewall leak and other from pothole blowout). I wish now I'd gone with the 18" wheels with slightly higher profile tires.
I feel the same way. I just couldn't get over the aero wheels. Only to discover later the wheels under the aero caps look great.
Howbout an update?
See you in redding ;)
Was planning on it but slipped my mind. Thanks for the reminder. :)
@@FrugalTeslaGuy please do it
@@FrugalTeslaGuy please do the followup tire video
good info
Thanks again for another great video. One note - perhaps you want to focus on your face next time and not so much on the background screen.
Thanks. Yes, the camera decided to go rogue on me again. I'm going to have to pay more attention to auto focus.
@@FrugalTeslaGuy Keep up the great work! Love watching your videos; especially the ones that are family trips. Wife and I own a 2020 M3 LR AWD and we love it but don't get out too often on longer (over 500 mile) trips. Hoping this summer is different.
Is this full seasons tire?
Yes.
you need to focus your camera on your face, its choosing your TV....
anyone here use Goodyears 18" wheels?
Hell my Chevy Impala has the pure contact ls tires and there junk
You are out of focus
Foam insert protects from nails and screws from needing to patch tire after removing. Self seals holes
this is false.
If that is true it’s not working for me. I’ve had 3 nails/screws and needed to get the tire patched each time. Thankfully America’s Tire does it for free.
@@22tbond what he write is another art of tires. "pirelli SealInside" or "ContiSeal" are these kind of tires. But the "low noise" Tires are another thing
@@laloajuria4678 mine has sealed twice after removing a deck screw
3 flats on mine from screws. Lots of construction around here. All had to be plugged at Discount Tire.
Frugal guy, you are out of focus
Probably a good thing.😉 I was still figuring out my camera when I shot this video. Thanks for the heads up.