I had that exact thing happen- but when I would clamp one side the other would spring out. I had to end up gluing the top with CYA glue, and only work in 2 inch sections until it dried. That way I could control it and ensure a previously glued area didn't shift out of control. You did a great job.
I own two Martin's a D-28 and a D-41, both were purchased new around the same time in 1990. Both guitars have had their binding separate just like this. I've never seen this happen on any of my other guitars. I contacted Martin and they told me they were too busy to take my guitars in and referred me to the factory authorized repair shop. The factory authorized repair guy said he might be able to get around to it in three to four months. He said he had 20 Martin's in his shop with the exact same problem. I'm sure Martin must have experimented with an unproven "new" adhesive and is now suffering the consequences. In any case you would think that a company that had been building guitars for that long would not get caught with their pants down! I feel that Martin has lost its way and not the company we once knew. Ordered a Collings, time to move on.
@@rickperrotta this thing with bindings is wild 🙃 I think this is combo of bad choice of glue (it was all gummy) and celluloid binding. But this Martin was laying in bad environment for about couple years, and then someone tried to fix it himself. This was not good at all
Absolutely! Big brands don’t care about customers issues, not even if you expose the problem to the world community. Realy it’s time to get educate and move to oder brands that simply cares about product, people and gives you a REAL lifetime warranty.
As so many other brands they try to cut corners and ask top prizes, so in the end you just pay for the name, so many "cheaper" brands do not have these problems and for people without perfect hearing they all sound the same as I experienced when I played my Sigma DR28 against a Martin D28 in a shop with really good musicians, we blinded the headstocks and no one could hear or feel the difference. Ended up selling the Sigma because I felt both Martin and the Sigma were in fact verry inunteresting guitars soundwise for me and after playing a good deal of expensive Martins I now know these are not my guitars.
Great work and don't worry about your playing! When I first started repairs and setups 35+ years ago I could only play 3 chords! Remember Leo fender couldn't play guitar
I saw a video on Martin's Facebook page, and in it, one of the builders was using a bottle of Elmer's glue for the binding. I don't know if that's the reason for this prevalent issue, but it doesn't seem like a coincidence
@@mwilsington at first it was with weird smell, but after week of drying it mostly gone. After I finished the work there was any traces of moldy smell :) Thank you!
My1993 HD-28v has only had finish issues. The finish delaminates and chips off. I bought it ne and Martin doesn’t want to warranty repair it. As a septuagenarian it’s becoming hard to play, my 000-18 and slope shoulder Gibson get all the play now.
@@zapa1pnt No, Martin is infamous with their binding coming off issue. Happens several times less often to other American brands, I guess never to Asian.
@@LegsON: Oh, OK, you were just referring to the binding coming loose. In this case, it was a matter of humidity. What Usually happens, to Martins, is the plastic binding Shrinks, lengthwise and pulls itself loose. When that happens, you need to anchor the ends first, then work toward the middle, heating the plastic and stretching back into place, gluing and clamping quickly. That happened to mine, too. It is indeed a pain in the ass. 😁✌🖖
@@notabot6837 I’m only doing it if it is necessary. It’s way, way more work. Top and sides could change shape after some time and it will be so hard to put it back together 🙃 And overall all repair could be more noticeable if I do so. And here situation was bad, but not as bad 😊
Тітанична праця... Щоб телефоном не тиркатись - можна зробити якийсь аккаунт на другому девайсі та дзвонити собі по фейстайму. Тоді можна засунути телефон в корпус та в зрочному місці дивитись що там внутрі) Доречі от цікво наскільки ця робота буда б складніше/дорожче якщо знимати нижню деку? Все одно новий лак та поліровка + робити треба швидко щоб пластик байндінгу та/чи пікгарда не сжався - тобто те що корпус поведе не повинно бути проблемою, особливо якщо залишити пружини. Як то колись збирали класичні гітари...
Дякую! З телефоном - норм ідея, рідко така потреба є тому якось не додумався :) А купити ендоскоп якось постійно забуваю Тут простише було так, бо у д28 задня дека не пласка. В ьакому випадку виходить дуже багато додаткової роботи 🙃
I bet that it is not the last one 🙃
What you think about video? 😊
I thought the video was great! Exposes the problem and a competent repair.
@@rickperrotta thank you!
Happy to see that the electricity was available for the work. Nice restoration work! Please stay safe.
@@markfogleman8438 thank you!
@@игорьгоголев-х5е а ти вже вмер? 😊
Ooops . . . again 👍 👍 . . . outstanding job and best of luck to y'all there 😎
Hello, my name is Eduardo and I am a luthier from Argentina.Great job. I really enjoyed watching the video. Greetings from Argentina.
@@MrProfgalax thank you!
I had that exact thing happen- but when I would clamp one side the other would spring out. I had to end up gluing the top with CYA glue, and only work in 2 inch sections until it dried. That way I could control it and ensure a previously glued area didn't shift out of control. You did a great job.
Merveilleux ! J'aime votre soucis du détail ! Bravo!
Thank you!
Excellent work!
It makes me very happy when i see new videos from you and Tanya. Peace and love from the USA to you and your families and friends and all of Ukraine!
@@johnnygrind77 thank you!
Great video!
And what a lovely instrument 🎸...
Thank you!
Beautiful craftsmanship. This D-28 lives to sing again!
I own two Martin's a D-28 and a D-41, both were purchased new around the same time in 1990. Both guitars have had their binding separate just like this. I've never seen this happen on any of my other guitars. I contacted Martin and they told me they were too busy to take my guitars in and referred me to the factory authorized repair shop. The factory authorized repair guy said he might be able to get around to it in three to four months. He said he had 20 Martin's in his shop with the exact same problem. I'm sure Martin must have experimented with an unproven "new" adhesive and is now suffering the consequences. In any case you would think that a company that had been building guitars for that long would not get caught with their pants down! I feel that Martin has lost its way and not the company we once knew. Ordered a Collings, time to move on.
@@rickperrotta this thing with bindings is wild 🙃
I think this is combo of bad choice of glue (it was all gummy) and celluloid binding.
But this Martin was laying in bad environment for about couple years, and then someone tried to fix it himself. This was not good at all
Absolutely! Big brands don’t care about customers issues, not even if you expose the problem to the world community. Realy it’s time to get educate and move to oder brands that simply cares about product, people and gives you a REAL lifetime warranty.
As so many other brands they try to cut corners and ask top prizes, so in the end you just pay for the name, so many "cheaper" brands do not have these problems and for people without perfect hearing they all sound the same as I experienced when I played my Sigma DR28 against a Martin D28 in a shop with really good musicians, we blinded the headstocks and no one could hear or feel the difference.
Ended up selling the Sigma because I felt both Martin and the Sigma were in fact verry inunteresting guitars soundwise for me and after playing a good deal of expensive Martins I now know these are not my guitars.
Great job! A good amount of TLC for that guitar 👌🏻
Nice job. You and Tanya do really great work.
Thank you, for listing what you use. I was curious
about the glue, for the binding. 😁✌🖖
Great work and don't worry about your playing! When I first started repairs and setups 35+ years ago I could only play 3 chords! Remember Leo fender couldn't play guitar
Thank you 😊
great video as always
@@ojeffnoyoutube thank you!
I saw a video on Martin's Facebook page, and in it, one of the builders was using a bottle of Elmer's glue for the binding. I don't know if that's the reason for this prevalent issue, but it doesn't seem like a coincidence
My D28 I bought in 2000 gas the same problem . The binding has shrunk in length and pulled away from the body
To my knowledge Martin had around 2014 issues with a certain batch of glue. The repair should be covered by Martins warranty.
Well, that’s if u are in US I guess 🌚
@@TadykaGuitars same in Europe
I’m glad you were able to get guitar back in playing shape. Amazing what over humidification can do to a guitar. Was it moldy or stinky at all?
@@mwilsington at first it was with weird smell, but after week of drying it mostly gone. After I finished the work there was any traces of moldy smell :)
Thank you!
Чудова робота!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@@Allexxios дякую!
My1993 HD-28v has only had finish issues. The finish delaminates and chips off. I bought it ne and Martin doesn’t want to warranty repair it. As a septuagenarian it’s becoming hard to play, my 000-18 and slope shoulder Gibson get all the play now.
Same happened to my 2017 Martin 000-21 I traded it away
Sad
I really like triple 0 model, great guitar
Why won't Martin ever fix this production sin? GOOD LORD.
What production sin?
This guitar came apart, due to excessive humidity.
The same thing can happen to any brand.
@@zapa1pnt No, Martin is infamous with their binding coming off issue.
Happens several times less often to other American brands, I guess never to Asian.
@@LegsON: Oh, OK, you were just referring to the
binding coming loose. In this case, it was a matter
of humidity. What Usually happens, to Martins, is
the plastic binding Shrinks, lengthwise and pulls
itself loose. When that happens, you need to anchor
the ends first, then work toward the middle, heating
the plastic and stretching back into place, gluing and
clamping quickly. That happened to mine, too.
It is indeed a pain in the ass. 😁✌🖖
Wow watching this martin come apart makes you wonder if they are worth the money they cost um no probably not.
Why not completely remove the top? If the glue is glad in a few places isn't it likely bad everywhere?
@@notabot6837 I’m only doing it if it is necessary. It’s way, way more work. Top and sides could change shape after some time and it will be so hard to put it back together 🙃
And overall all repair could be more noticeable if I do so. And here situation was bad, but not as bad 😊
I have an OM-28 with the same problem, for me it's a scandal !!!
Cheapest guitars don't have this problem
@@laurentcala924 yes, that’s a bummer 🙃
Тітанична праця...
Щоб телефоном не тиркатись - можна зробити якийсь аккаунт на другому девайсі та дзвонити собі по фейстайму. Тоді можна засунути телефон в корпус та в зрочному місці дивитись що там внутрі)
Доречі от цікво наскільки ця робота буда б складніше/дорожче якщо знимати нижню деку? Все одно новий лак та поліровка + робити треба швидко щоб пластик байндінгу та/чи пікгарда не сжався - тобто те що корпус поведе не повинно бути проблемою, особливо якщо залишити пружини. Як то колись збирали класичні гітари...
Дякую!
З телефоном - норм ідея, рідко така потреба є тому якось не додумався :) А купити ендоскоп якось постійно забуваю
Тут простише було так, бо у д28 задня дека не пласка. В ьакому випадку виходить дуже багато додаткової роботи 🙃
I don’t like binding on acoustic guitars. I think it weakens the joint between the top and sides. It’s totally unnecessary.
I think it looks good. Especially herringbone style.
In some cases it definitely could weaken the joint 🙃
마틴의 최대 단점
습도 관리가 문제엿었나 봅니다
Yes :)
마틴은 습도 관리도 잘 해야 하지만 본인이 그런것을 알고 구입 관리해야 하는데 모르고 명성만 듣고 구입하는 사람들이 태반 이지요
OHH ! In my country people go to Prison for hurting a MARTIN😢
😅
Again
Obviously the guitar was dropped by that damage on the belly, but, I think this binding issue is the result of not humidifying the instrument.
Just glue it back. Waste of time.
That is literally whole video is about 🌚