1978-1995 Porsche 928 - Germany's Muscle Car
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Porsche took the performance automobile world by storm when it released the 1978 928. It was rear-wheel drive, front engine, and V8 powered performance car was a 180 degrees from its previous offerings. The 1978-1995 Porsche 928 proved Germany could make a genuine style American muscle car Bavarian style.
The 928 is one of the best cars of the 20th Century. It was an immediate favourite car of mine growing up in the 80s and getting an interest in cars..
The fact that the styling hadn't changed too much in 18 years is proof of how ahead of it's time it was in 1978.
Man, I couldn't take my eyes away from Porsche dealership in the 80's when the bus I was riding on passed it by....😍
And, it still looks current, today. The only thing that they would need to change, would be the headlights, as the evolution of lighting could improve the moving headlights (although, 80/100 watt halogens in the 8" original european headlights were the equal of what we have today). Everything else? Perfect.
924 / 944 as well
As a young man in the early 90's I bought two of them. My best car memories involved those cars. Outstanding solid chassis, great handling, great ride, great build quality.
that is if your German
I had two 928's, a '79 and an '86 - loved them both. Gorgeous lines (OK, except when you put the headlights up - I used the large parking lights until it got really dark), futuristic interior, all the toys, and good old fashioned American-style front engine, rear drive V8. A true luxury sport coupe; they managed to give it a smooth ride without sacrificing handling, and believe me, 300HP in the late eighties could embarrass 90% of the cars on the road. Everybody back then thought Porsches were weak little rear-engine things; nobody could believe it when you popped the hood and showed them a V8 (or did a smokin' burnout).
I've owned a lot of of higher end and unusual cars, everything from Cadillac and Lincoln convertibles to Mercedes 450SL's, Audi Quattro, DeLorean, Porsche 944 and 944 Turbo, Plymouth Prowler, Cadillac XLR, and Ferrari 360 Spider, to name some; of all those cars the 928 is my overall favorite as being the best combination of looks, performance, luxury, and even practicality. (The video doesn't mention that they were hatchbacks with fold-down seats; you could fit, for example, a large piece of furniture back there when necessary with no problem.)
"Everybody back then thought Porsches were weak little rear-engine things"
hardly
+David Farmer Not with 5 second 0-60, 911 Turbos running around. I almost got beat by an old man in a silver 911 Turbo and I was on a Honda VFR1000.
Yeah those headlights were pretty ugly when up.
@@gray_space_alien similar to the Opel Gt headlights
@@zzygyy Yep the only thing about the Opel that made them sorta cool was the way they flipped over side to side, that was kinda neat to watch but once they were up they were ugly as sin.
I'm a hardcore Trans-Am fan and I have always admired the 928's. You nailed it perfectly in this video.
The 928 was designed to run comfortably 100mph+ all day on the Autobahn. Hamburg to Frankfurt and Stuttgart to Munich. Stable high speed cruisers that could also tackle the Alps.
It was designed for the USA in mind. Driving all day in 38.6°C temps. 🤣
I used to see a 928 every morning when I went to school. Only being 12/13 years old at that time I instantly fell in love with that car. Now being 50+ I still like the timeless design of the 928.
Well done.
Very cool video, loved those Cars growing up and always wanted one but wow in '86 the gts was $86,000. Plus taxes
Rumors are the 928 will return in spirit, when they produce a 2-door Panamera...
Erik Hertzer A two door Panamera exists already, it’s called the 911.
Kostas Kritsilas : except the Panamera has a v6 or V8 in the front, whilst 911 has flat 6 in the rear...
Good Ideal.
The Porsche 928 is my wife’s *favorite* car. I hope to be able to buy her a good one eventually.
And it was the first car with intergrated bumpers! (:
From engine, rear drive, the best type! Trans Am mentioned, too! Great cars! Two of my favorite ones!😁🔧
Hmm. Disagree on the 928 being a muscle car, or comparable to the Trans am. It did not have a flexible propshaft either, it was deliberately not flexible at all. The 928 was teutonic German engineering, and made the Trans am look like a series 1 Land Rover, with respect to technology.
I agree - comparing the 928 to a Trans Am or any other American muscle car is an insult. The 928 was a grand tourer. I think calling it a "sports" car is also inaccurate. The car is intended for long-distance enthusiast driving, not drag racing.
@8:50 *OUCH!* That's why you have to avoid parking lots. :(
Tsk tsk... that dent could have been so easily photoshopped out too.
I have admired this Porsche for many years but this is the first time I've ever heard of it being compared to a Pontiac Firebird. In my mind, the two cars are worlds apart. I like both cars, but if I was to invest in one that I would never get tired of, the Porsche 928 wins the contest.
J Johnson pretty sure no foreign cars were ever even designed to be a muscle car
You really turn out some very nicely done videos. Well done
The 928 was a German Corvette. The 928 was supposed to compete with the Corvette and has a more similar GT body style to the corvette than the family car looking firebird (we are talking 1979). The 928 like the corvette came in 1 model with that frame and body. No 4 door version with 6 cyl available. The 928 only had seats in the back to pay less in tariffs which corvettes did not have to worry about. The Trans-Am was a beefed up Pontiac regular car. Plus nobody would say "instead of buying a $6,000 firebird I'll spend $42,000 on a 928. A corvette was more of a realistic jump.. I bought my 1980 928 in the year 2000 and I still have it. Spotless and garaged kept with only 38,000 miles. I'll never sell it.
A gentleman's road car .
Gorgeous at any angle 💖
The 928's designer, Tony Lapine, admitted his inspiration was from none other than the AMC Pacer!
I owned a 1983 Porsche 928S US model lightened to 2900lb with driver, and powered by a 5 liter stroker motor for about 15 years.
Totally agree with your statement. The 928 should have continued in production, properly modernized.
I understand that trans am is cool and all, and I love it, but calling it’s handling great is... let’s just call that unusual
For the time (1970’s), it was one of the best handling American cars you could buy. It would hang with practically anything around an apex with exception of little cars (911, MG, Shelby Cobras, early Z cars)
King Pleb : if you said the Trans Am had great handling...you would likely be met with polite laughter.
Dr. Lyle Evans
best handling American car didnt mean much back the
The 82-92 third generation Fbody trans am and Camaro had world class handling at the time. It's pretty well documented that the acceleration and handling of 82-92 trans ams and camaros was comparable to Porsche 928s
@@josephthomas8318 rubbish. No down force, no weisach axel, uneven weight distribution, heavy etc etc. not remotely comparable.
The 928 is the best looking car, imho, ever designed, bar none. It is gorgeous to look at and in the day it was fast enough. I currently own a BMW Z4 3.0 6 speed manual. I would trade it in a heart beat for a decent 928.
Parts for the 928 are very expensive. Thats why I like the Z4.
The car from Risky Business. 👍
Thank you for an exceptionally knowledgeable review of my favorite car ever made. So many can't get past its looks, but I love every inch of it. Give me an original S with Pasha checkerboard seats, please.
The 928 was nothing like the Pontiac TransAm. The TransAm had Burt Reynolds.
Angry Cat Owner and the 928 had Al Pacino
Which movie ?
Thanks !
Carl Ryan ...and Kelly LeBrock in Weird Science
And a giant chicken sticker on the hood.
I own a 1988 928S4,five-speed manual transmission car with white paint,leather and carpet.I wonder how many were made with that colour combination...
Consider Volkswagen now owns Porsche. Interesting twist on history in that Ferdinand Porsche designed the first Volkswagen.
Porsche ag owns the biggest share of vw dosnt it? seems to go in a circle.
warren olofsson Yeah, Porsche nearly accomplished a cou de etat (sp) a few years ago; they came close to owning majority interest. Volkswagen AG effectively countered. That’s about all I remember from the time but it was a very interesting case study
still love them. only around 70k were built total. Al least half have been recycled. a rare gem
The 928 was the perfect car at the wrong time...the only hope we have for a return of the 928 is a 2-door V8 Panamera.
Yeah.
I actually like the Porsche 928. Because I remember that car from the 80s on up to the mid 90s. It would've been nice if they had continued making them on up to at least the early 2000s. It does have some sleek styling to it also. This is actually one of the best looking, Porsches that Porsche has ever made.
In 1990 I had a 924 turbo manual totally awesome car gave it my wife and she drove it for 10 year's not a problem,car didn't like snow through
Loved this car ever since Risky Business.
Love my 84 928s... bought it 2 years ago. No regrets, only smiles!
Tony Montana 😎
D Money get me the scramblers and the fog lights, just in case I gotta drive in a swamp. Lol
The Porsche 928 Was In SCARFACE, RISKY BUSINESS, And MIDDLE AGED CRAZY!
This crazy guy got me lookin at tigers 🐅
Don't forget the armoring.
and what brought the turnaround in the 2000s? An SUV! The Cayenne! the 928 was my favorite Porsche ever. $28K in 1978? That is almost the $85K price in 1995. Or even today!
Neat video, but, yeah, right, like it's an ancient car! It's relatively modern and better than a lot of newer ones!😁 Timing belt aside, of course!😁🔧
They need to bring the 928 back.
Those things have always reminded me of a Flounder. 😂
Beautiful
That door ding on the blue one in the last picture really bugs me. Paintless dent repair could fix that.
some movie stars retain a "beauty mark" on their face. one little blem is ok.
4.5L? awww...what a cute little motor!
That's an interesting comparison with the Trans Am. But one major difference was price. The 928 was a lot more expensive.
Headlights go up, headlights go down. Headlights go up, headlights go down......
Muscle cars have trim levels affordable enough for the working man. This did not. Therefore, it wasn't a muscle car.
The 928 was a V8, rear drive, four place (really more of a 2+2) powerful grand tourer. Honestly, and maybe I'm a bit odd, but I look at the Panamera as the modern successor to the 928. Yes, it has four doors instead of two and it's a bit longer, larger and heavier, but the car is powerful, handles well and has a comfortable interior to take care of driving business. It's as capable as a 928 on scenic mountain roads, and it can take three passengers for the ride, with the Panamera being more comfortable and accessible in the back. It isn't quite as nice looking, but few things on the road today are. I think the Panamera is the modern 928 in so many ways, but not in name. And as great as the 928 really was, that is as it should be.
The Porsche 928 Was The Star In 1980's MIDDLE AGED CRAZY (Bruce Dern And Anne Margaret) And 1983's RISKY BUSINESS. (Tom Cruise, Rebecca De Mornay)
Video should have been titled "Germanys Pony Car". A muscle car is a midsize more like a Chevelle or Road Runner. I drove a 928 only once. It was an early manual trans car and I came away thinking it felt like my '70 Z28 and '69 big-block Mustang but they fixed the clumsy handling and crude suspension. Took until just recently for Camaros and Mustangs to catch up in that regard.
Looking forward to your video on the 1990's Plymouth Duster / Dodge Shadow ES mini muscle cars
16 valves in a V8 is still just 2 valves per cylinder.
great cars the Porsche and the Pontiac bandit is also great
Great video.
Corvette styling in many ways, esp. the head lits.
Was always puzzles that Porsche never turbocharged it...
It gerrrrmany karr!!!!
I must own or all other shall suffer SEVERE CONSEQUENCES!!!
Love it. Underpriced cars right now but going up fast. I hope to snag one before they get out of reach.
Too bad the vast majority of them are hobbled with the automatic.
james staggs Underpriced ?? The reason is it will need thousand and thousands of dollars worth of work. Fugly car.
Campervan Elvis I toof on you fugly compared to what? The new Civic? The new Sti? Those are fugly. Some of the early 928s are not the best looking, but the proportions improved later down the line, and with the right set of wheels, a sane amount of lowering, and a functional/tasteful aftermarket spoiler they really turn into lookers. If you buy a clapped out 928 for 2k yeah you're gonna need to sink a bunch into it, but you can still find them for around 6-10k in really good shape. That price range would get you a Boxster or may be a decent non turbo 944. Dollar for dollar if you want a Porsche it's the best deal going right now.
Camper Van Elvis I toof on you says the one that drives a camper! What’s wrong with you?
Ah the 928....so many missed changes to buy one, either being Outbid (by a few hundred grand because someone wanted a couple of early 930's), Or find a good model but someone beats me to it. :P MANUAL YO!!!...but that 7FT timing belt... yikes..But two areas i find issue, the Steering weight , and the gas peddle is like pushing on a brick lol
I love the 928, a stunning design. The Trans -Am is like a truck compared to the Porsche.
nice video. but i think that germany's muscle car is the amg metcedes from the 70's 80's... to this day. maybe worth doing a video on this..
One of the first exotics I drooled over... this and the Ferrari 328 GTS
My friend had one of these 928 V-8s; finally sold it due to hi maintenance and 11 mpg
Come on dude, a muscle car is a sedan or large coupe with a powerful engine. The 928 is a GT car. Which is closer to a sports car but having 4 seats makes it a Grand Tourer.
If it took you 7.5 seconds to 60 in a 928 - even the early ones -- you have a serious problem. My 535is will do that -- I timed it myself GPS at 8.0 flat no wheelspin.
I remember lusting for a coworkers 928S4... But I eventually got better, but it took a Ferrari F355 spider to cure me! The 928S4 is still one of my favorite cars!
1998 style in 1978...
Why are you talking about the Pontiac? Weird.
Beautiful car although I never understood the weird headlights
I love any Porsche that is not a 911. Especially the 928!
Even a 924?
heck ya! tho preferably a turbo
I love any Porsche, no exceptions.
Almost bought one in 1995 GTS, howerver wanted a brop top a smidge more, got a 1992 968 Cabriolet!
Tony Montana Porsche!!
The Porsche 996 is a 928 with the engine in the rear with less cylinders.
I wouldn't call it a muscle car. It's pretty small, and by comparision to american muscle cars, it's advanced. Independed suspension, camshafts in heads etc... Just typical European sports car of the era, only with pretty big engine.
I remember in the mid 80's there were new 944's everywhere.
Its not a muscle car. Its a GT car.
People tell me I'm no fun at parties when I point out how much faster the 300SEL 6.3s were than muscle cars of the same era, and that's not even including the AMGs, that is a buff *muscle car*
GTS! GTS! GTS!!!😁😁🔧🔧😁😁🔧🔧👍👍👍👍😀😀😀🛠️🛠️
Not a story about 928
Still say it was the ugliest AMC pacer ever made......... However I loved my 944
928 was the German Corvette
Why did Porsche call it the 928?
Why do I never see anything on the 944? Great styling but a dog engine.
I can't help it, I hate the styling
I liked the styling at the time. The problem with the 928 was an unstable engine block, which used to flex like a skipping rope causing all manner of engine leaks...head gaskets etc.
mark krul ahh dont think so have 220,000 miles on mine still push 150mph...not killometers
mark krul no not! How did you come up with bs like that?
Kind of a squashed Pacer, innit?
TransAm v Porsche?
...... they should not be mentioned in the same breath ... let alone be on the same page.
A mongrel groveling behind a thoroughbred!
This car is fugly, IMO. I don't like it's pop-up bug eye headlights, the wheels, and it's AMC Gremlin inspired hatch.
Daniel C amc gremlin wont do 160 and hold it
I know isn't it awesome!
Looks like a great white shark in motion, especially in silver with the old style taillights.
"Ultra comfortable interior",this car was terrible !
Obviously not owned or driven one
Its hard to improve on perfection....except to raise its price out of the reach of nearly everyone!
I would never ever compare a 928 with a Trans Am. I love the bird don't get me wrong, but the 928 is waaay out of its league.
Yep… totally agree
I was heading to Christchurch on SH1. It was a beautiful day, and I was driving my 1985 Firebird T/Top 5speed with the 305 V8. Up until then I felt as if I owned the road, I recall looking in the rear view mirror and the road behind was empty, then several seconds later something made me take another glance. My moment of owning the road had just come to and end, as sitting behind me was this Black and very menacing 928S. It wasn’t following for more then a second or two, before it blew past me like a Focke Wolf 190. That was in 1985, a week later I bought my very first Porsche 928S2, a white 1986 5 speed manual. Since then I’ve had another two and they have been rock solid and bulletproof. Although saying that, they have to be treated well, and regularly maintained, just like any thorough breed does.
I was doing about 90 in my sister's Honda Prelude on the Interstate in Jersey in the mid-80s and and two 928s passed me like I was sitting still. One black and one white. Personalized New York tags that had one letter each -Y and Z.
those cars are light years ahead of you even now
Sure it wasn't D and B?
Typical ny drivers
THE 1995 928S V8 FRONT ENGINE PORSCHE IS THE ONLY PORSCHE I WOULD LOVE TO OWN EVEN TODAY. IT'S UNIQUE AND YES THERE ARE MANY MORE POWERFUL PERFORMANCE PORSCHE'S BUT THE BEAUTY AND MORE PRACTICAL ERGONOMICS MAKES THIS ONE MY FAVORITE. THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!
Grew up in the 80's and this has always been my favorite Porsche. Such a unique, fluid shape and always turns heads. IMO. Love this channel!
This car made me look like the totally cool New York City girl when I moved down to Charlotte, NC..it was the sweetest ride.. It made heads turn!!. Ohhh yeah!
I had no idea the 928 made it to 1995! I figured it was gone by 1990. Also, I have read somewhere (and I believe it) 99.9% of owners were men. OK, so I may be exaggerating the %, but seriously, most women think this car is hideous. I liked the design, it was so different. So did Mazda - they stopped copying the 924's styling to switch to copying the 928 styling in 1985.
the last generation Mazda RX-7 is one of my all-time favorite cars (too bad finding an unmodified, unmolested one here in Canada is nearly impossible)
This car needs to come back
Yep. Porsche has a huge void now.
A 2-door V8 Panamera May suffice...
I kinda has in the AMG GT.
Awesome video! Awesome car! I remember these Porsche 928s. I remember loving its shape. *At the time,* I found it more attractive than the 911.
Yeah and also we don't forgot it was even popular as the Dead End's Vehicle Mode in the Transformers original Cartoon.
AXL163 Flies I'm not familiar with Dead End Vehicle Mode.
Aha! I had that TransFormer toy back in the 80s.
Yeah I wished to own some other transformers, instead of just only bayformers.
And why not now? Lol
I love this German Muscle Car!
Love the 928, but this was an expensive gran tourer. Muscle cars are by definition cheap and simple
Thanks for a great video.
I have owned three 928’s:
Silver 1978 928
Black 1982 928S
Black 1988 928S4
I still have the S4, but needs a bit of work, gearbox rebuild, electrics etc....
The S4 is in my opinion a much better car than the previous models of 928, but, I always preferred the original 78-86 rear tail lights over the S4 and later versions.
Shame you didn’t stretch out your video for another 6 seconds. 😉
Cheers
I prefer the unnoodled body of the original too. Those sill extensions made it Trans Amy looking to me... I want to peel them off.
There was something very cool about the S, mine started in first gear, the interior seemed cooler and more cozy, I had the glacier white with dark navy leather, I loved that car, but it was totaled while parked on the street, frggn gutted, I replaced it with the S4, altho more powerful with the quad cam it never had quite the same magic of the S, but still have the S4 15 years later, just had a engine out rebuild, deleted 2 of the mufflers, sound and runs amazing, has that hairy chested sports car feel as compared to the soulless computerized cars of today.
Wanted one from the first time I saw one in person and who can forget its appearances in 80s movies. Had an 81 five speed and loved that car. She was a mean mistress and enjoyed every drop of my credit card when she wasn't feeling well 😋