What a wonderful community of support I’m seeing on this channel. Really relax and relatable. I’ve recently had my preorder delivered. A smasher v2. Bloomin awesome. On the 6th yesterday. Forgot it was my nephew’s birthday, so reluctantly, I gave it to him. He’s having fun, but not me😢
The last drop with the slowmo shows the shocks barely working and the tires doing most of the suspension work. Personally I'd rather put foams in the tires and then much lighter weight oil in the shocks. As I always say though, setup your truck the way that makes you happy!
I used to do custom 1/10 Scale rc monster truck builds for competitions, and won my fair share. 50w is all I ever needed for foamed tires. You want the tires to grip and bounce more so than the shocks. The shocks are only for sway and serious hard landings. I won a full season with a pro mod Axial and the freestyle finals with 50w in the front and 35w in the rear. The shocks were stiff a bit, but I did that to compensate for turning sharp turns without 4ws...left the front diff open and locked the rear diff with silly putty.
FMS who makes a lot of cars for Horizon Hobby factory fills and suggests 22.5 wt oil for vehicles of this size. That translates into a 223 cst. The 700 cst is ridiculously hard dude. I would do something like Tamiya red colored soft which is 200 cst.
Based on all your testing, it looks to me like something around 90 or 100 would be better in the front. But it takes a lot of time to test that stuff. Great video very instructive
From personal experience... 300 and heavier weight oil is only good for larger/heavier RC's. For an RC that small/light, I would have used 100 weight oil as a starting point. 100 would have likely slowed down the shock travel only a little bit while still allowing some free movement. I would have also added a small hole to the tire or rim to allow some air to escape, which would help limit the amount of rebound/bounce that was happening with those small tires. When everything is tuned right, there should be little to no rebound/bounce when you drop the RC from a few inches high.
@@EdwardChew If it still bounces a bit too much after trying 100 oil and adding a hole to the tire or rim, I would try adding more weight to the front and rear chassis.
Hey bro just let you know i got notification of your comment for the new video but when i click on it, i don't see the new comment, it's not eevn in the list of "held for review". Odd
@@EdwardChew That's weird. I don't know why it disappeared. Anyway, I thanked you for listing to me/others about using lower weight oil. It was cool seeing my comment in your new video. 🙂 I also mentioned that if you were able to eventually find 100 (and you added holes to the tires or rims), that you would require less added weight at the back.
@@CoroaEntertainment yea of course. it's really cool to implement feedback from you guys and show it to everyone because we are always learning Yeah will try to find again. Or maybe try less 150 oil in the rear :D
I use 30 weight traxxas oil. It seems like too light on a heavier truck, but good on a lighter crawler. 30 or 40 looks like thick enough for the small scale.
I think on my custom 1/18 losi mini crawler based mt I used 40wt oil and it dampens landings pretty good ontop of using the tlt-1 rock buster tires but much larger scale then one of these
Found this interesting, though I'm building model airplanes and working on more sophisticated landing gear. Same principle, though, and I want to improve shock absorption on landing, as well as ground handling using some of these tiny shocks.
6 drops of 100 for crawling, 200-250 for monster trucking/bashing. These things are no way heavy enough for 500-700!. Tyre foams help rebound more than the shock oil. Tho the shock oil is great for loosing that top out rattle sound
Yep, we need more response from viewers and rc community who test this truck with oil. Maybe with higher jumps oil starts to matter ?) Thanks anyway!!! Keep it coming 👍👍👍🙂🥳
@@EdwardChew only cause it’s bouncy even without oil. Indication of over stiffness notice how fast the rebound is on the rear shocks. Done something similar to a senton and when I got softer springs there was less bounce after jumps more planted landing,less ski-dish characteristics
You are trying to fight the physics a bit. I think the main reason why you can’t get better damping is that the wheels are bouncy plus rather heavy relative to the rest of the car. It is a bit similar why it makes limited sense to put suspended fork on a bicycle for little kids. The weigh ratio of the suspended and unsuspended mass is too large.
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what about hole size and count, when would you have to mess with that?
What a wonderful community of support I’m seeing on this channel. Really relax and relatable.
I’ve recently had my preorder delivered. A smasher v2. Bloomin awesome. On the 6th yesterday. Forgot it was my nephew’s birthday, so reluctantly, I gave it to him. He’s having fun, but not me😢
hahahaha then u gotta get another one
The last drop with the slowmo shows the shocks barely working and the tires doing most of the suspension work. Personally I'd rather put foams in the tires and then much lighter weight oil in the shocks. As I always say though, setup your truck the way that makes you happy!
I used to do custom 1/10 Scale rc monster truck builds for competitions, and won my fair share. 50w is all I ever needed for foamed tires. You want the tires to grip and bounce more so than the shocks. The shocks are only for sway and serious hard landings. I won a full season with a pro mod Axial and the freestyle finals with 50w in the front and 35w in the rear. The shocks were stiff a bit, but I did that to compensate for turning sharp turns without 4ws...left the front diff open and locked the rear diff with silly putty.
FMS who makes a lot of cars for Horizon Hobby factory fills and suggests 22.5 wt oil for vehicles of this size. That translates into a 223 cst. The 700 cst is ridiculously hard dude. I would do something like Tamiya red colored soft which is 200 cst.
Great info!
Or something like losi 35wt oil
@@mojojoji5493 getting 150 tomorrow
@@EdwardChew nice! I’ll be subbing to see if you post anything about it ❤
@@mojojoji5493 that is 420cst. Way too heavy! It’s like sticking cement in there!
Based on all your testing, it looks to me like something around 90 or 100 would be better in the front. But it takes a lot of time to test that stuff. Great video very instructive
Good to hear! Thanks!
From personal experience... 300 and heavier weight oil is only good for larger/heavier RC's. For an RC that small/light, I would have used 100 weight oil as a starting point. 100 would have likely slowed down the shock travel only a little bit while still allowing some free movement. I would have also added a small hole to the tire or rim to allow some air to escape, which would help limit the amount of rebound/bounce that was happening with those small tires. When everything is tuned right, there should be little to no rebound/bounce when you drop the RC from a few inches high.
i'll try to get 100 and do a follow up :D
@@EdwardChew If it still bounces a bit too much after trying 100 oil and adding a hole to the tire or rim, I would try adding more weight to the front and rear chassis.
Hey bro just let you know i got notification of your comment for the new video but when i click on it, i don't see the new comment, it's not eevn in the list of "held for review". Odd
@@EdwardChew That's weird. I don't know why it disappeared. Anyway, I thanked you for listing to me/others about using lower weight oil. It was cool seeing my comment in your new video. 🙂 I also mentioned that if you were able to eventually find 100 (and you added holes to the tires or rims), that you would require less added weight at the back.
@@CoroaEntertainment yea of course. it's really cool to implement feedback from you guys and show it to everyone because we are always learning
Yeah will try to find again. Or maybe try less 150 oil in the rear :D
I use 30 weight traxxas oil. It seems like too light on a heavier truck, but good on a lighter crawler. 30 or 40 looks like thick enough for the small scale.
I think on my custom 1/18 losi mini crawler based mt I used 40wt oil and it dampens landings pretty good ontop of using the tlt-1 rock buster tires but much larger scale then one of these
Found this interesting, though I'm building model airplanes and working on more sophisticated landing gear.
Same principle, though, and I want to improve shock absorption on landing, as well as ground handling using some of these tiny shocks.
Great video! thanks, great to see the difference and yes would like to see a thinner oil as well
Cool you the 1st I see experimenting with oil fill. I rather have the real jumping from the tires with light oil than without. Thanks for sharing.👍
6 drops of 100 for crawling, 200-250 for monster trucking/bashing. These things are no way heavy enough for 500-700!. Tyre foams help rebound more than the shock oil. Tho the shock oil is great for loosing that top out rattle sound
Yep, we need more response from viewers and rc community who test this truck with oil. Maybe with higher jumps oil starts to matter ?) Thanks anyway!!! Keep it coming 👍👍👍🙂🥳
Top thanks for the help
Very well done! Liked and subscribed!
Thanks for the video! Does that Grave Digger body fit the Max Smasher?👀
It does but kinda short
Use 150cst!!!
Should be perfect...
Love the video!!!
Spot on thank you for sharing 👍
150-200 viscosity should be good..with zero rebound
Yeap got the 150. Will do a follow up 😁
very cool, much better, sounds better, less bounce
I decided to use Olive Oil..it's pretty light weight and works great.
But I actually think these socks perform better empty..no oil.
No oil. Just use different springs on a mini rc
Appreciate you sharing this I just subscribed I’ll follow for more
Actually the springs are too stiff you’d need to change the spring rate not the oil
erm first to hear that the spring is stiff :D
@@EdwardChew only cause it’s bouncy even without oil. Indication of over stiffness notice how fast the rebound is on the rear shocks.
Done something similar to a senton and when I got softer springs there was less bounce after jumps more planted landing,less ski-dish characteristics
You are trying to fight the physics a bit. I think the main reason why you can’t get better damping is that the wheels are bouncy plus rather heavy relative to the rest of the car. It is a bit similar why it makes limited sense to put suspended fork on a bicycle for little kids. The weigh ratio of the suspended and unsuspended mass is too large.
Oh yeap. Update video has been posted😄
ruclips.net/video/jxPd7K2cIQM/видео.html
@@EdwardChew thanks! Going to check it out 👍
No need to fill oil that much, maybe just half…
Maybe with WD40 will be better
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