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  • @MardukTheSunGodInsideMe
    @MardukTheSunGodInsideMe 8 дней назад +112

    Ironmace about to release mental health support packages for wizard mains.

    • @barack0ganj4
      @barack0ganj4 8 дней назад +2

      I’m a warlock main now😂

    • @vultrex1839
      @vultrex1839 8 дней назад +2

      We need it 😂

    • @Murasame13
      @Murasame13 8 дней назад +2

      Imagine thinking Ironmace cares about wiz rofl

    • @jaygriffyuh
      @jaygriffyuh  8 дней назад +10

      Please. It's the least they could do...

    • @MardukTheSunGodInsideMe
      @MardukTheSunGodInsideMe 7 дней назад

      @jaygriffyuh I'd settle for a thc cart tbh.

  • @udontseethetruth
    @udontseethetruth 8 дней назад +27

    This isn't even wizard anymore. Basically you either have to cosplay magic rogue (rondel crystal) or magic barb (staff bonk). The actual ranged spells are so weak unless ridiculously geared.
    Jay and Ken are some of the top wizard players in this game and even they are miserable with it. I honestly hope an actual rework is in order.

  • @jonstrunonbro1169
    @jonstrunonbro1169 8 дней назад +63

    wizards should be able to sit criss-cross applesauce and float around. wizards can levitate ive seen it happen in my own town.

    • @drafman1
      @drafman1 7 дней назад

      you mean....cross their legs??? wtf lmao

    • @Crayin1337
      @Crayin1337 6 дней назад +3

      @@drafman1no he ment what he said my boy

  • @DamienCloud
    @DamienCloud 8 дней назад +80

    Lol the rogue was y4mi

    • @Y4mi2599
      @Y4mi2599 8 дней назад +32

      😅

    • @loganunger4910
      @loganunger4910 8 дней назад +26

      @@Y4mi2599 whos that yami guy? got alot of fans.

  • @brad1840
    @brad1840 8 дней назад +15

    wizard: cant dps enough to be scary, cant run fast enough to juke or chase enemies down, can invis but stays visible? cant swing fast enough in melee and doesnt have enough hp to be viable against melee classes, gets destroyed by ranger in ranged dps output. Gear is rare drop and very expensive to gear up. Whats the selling point again?

    • @bingus549
      @bingus549 8 дней назад +13

      "I'm looking for a class that simulates coxk and ball torture"

    • @ohmy9672
      @ohmy9672 7 дней назад +1

      wizard is probably the coolest class if u want a selling point

    • @rdowg
      @rdowg 6 дней назад +1

      Because it's wizard to run Wizard!

  • @Brotection_
    @Brotection_ 8 дней назад +18

    Wizard needs a teleport spell with 1 charge and a way to regenerate spells reliably outside of combat, or very slowly in combat, or through pve, etc.

    • @bingus549
      @bingus549 8 дней назад +3

      YES! i never thought of that, or better yet a recall spell

    • @Brotection_
      @Brotection_ 8 дней назад +3

      @@bingus549 Yeah like set a mark and use it within a certain time frame/buff window to recall to that location - with a range limitation of course.

    • @CrizzyEyes
      @CrizzyEyes 7 дней назад +1

      The phantom skill that Druids get is basically EXACTLY what Wizard needs, it feels like Ironmace are taunting us by giving it to a class that can shapeshift into 2 forms that are both faster than any player

    • @just_wesshd7340
      @just_wesshd7340 5 дней назад

      Blink from WoW lol

  • @maxhay9911
    @maxhay9911 8 дней назад +7

    In a lot of other RPGs, wizard/mage classes often have an 'Ice Block'-type spell that acts as an 'oh shit' button when more mobile dps characters jump them. Maybe we need that in this game.

    • @Necoy666
      @Necoy666 7 дней назад

      Like Ice Shield? Which is a perk Jay had equipped.
      Or Arcane shield, but I agree full immunity ice block spell would be an upgrade to both of those. But I personally think that won't save wizard and they need to rework it. But Ironmace knows and they said they'll rework Wizard when Sorcerer gets released.

    • @CrizzyEyes
      @CrizzyEyes 7 дней назад

      Like I said in the other thread, I think giving Wizards the Dreamwalk perk that Druids get would fix most of the problems with getting ambushed that they currently have. Wizards heavily lean towards offense. I don't play against super good players often but Wizards are pretty good at starting engagements in my opinion. I think Fireball should be buffed slightly though, it should perhaps apply a moderate DoT in addition to the initial damage.

  • @stfucookieman957
    @stfucookieman957 8 дней назад +14

    so that's how he got rank 1 wizard 13:35

  • @vultrex1839
    @vultrex1839 8 дней назад +5

    Thank you for this. Anytime i complain about wizard problems, i get so much hate its unreal
    Also, that barb kill with the rondel was insane 😂

  • @monsieurporc4849
    @monsieurporc4849 8 дней назад +5

    My favorite thing as a wiz playing with a druid is to haste invi the treant, even experienced player can be surprised lol

  • @MrFahqup
    @MrFahqup 8 дней назад +4

    Wizard was my first class before solos were a thing and i got to the point where I was comfortable soloing trios with one (not winning usually, but at least competing.) How far we have fallen... an AOE instant as an ability, or maybe a flying familiar you could toss through the windows of doors and use like a drone.

    • @vultrex1839
      @vultrex1839 8 дней назад +1

      I'll take blink and cone of cold 😂

    • @MrFahqup
      @MrFahqup 8 дней назад +2

      @@vultrex1839 right? Give me a pseudo dragon familiar with scent as an extra sense that can faerie fire rogues. Give me wall of fire, and we'll see wuzzup then?

    • @bingus549
      @bingus549 8 дней назад +2

      @@MrFahqup bro id bet if they made a wizard only dungeon people would be sooooo happy

    • @MrFahqup
      @MrFahqup 8 дней назад

      @@bingus549 class specific dungeons would be badass tbh

  • @oggieson
    @oggieson 8 дней назад +38

    This guy isn't even the wizard guy anymore. What has the world come to. Get him a longsword instead!
    But seriously, talks about getting shanked by rogue then uses rogue shanking clip right after, that's quality right there. Wizard bros out there persevering

    • @RealNotASpy
      @RealNotASpy 8 дней назад +4

      Wizard bros 🤝 longsword bros
      Being the most fun but also bad

    • @alper9418
      @alper9418 8 дней назад +4

      @@RealNotASpy wizard main with longsword as secondary main... i swear i like pleasure

    • @Brotection_
      @Brotection_ 8 дней назад +1

      @@alper9418 pai- I mean pleasure?

    • @talmagebishop7523
      @talmagebishop7523 8 дней назад +2

      Truly we are all masochists.

    • @blayas5239
      @blayas5239 8 дней назад +2

      Persevere wizard brothers! one day we will be with our crystal long sword in a battlemage specialization

  • @gustavomarcondes3908
    @gustavomarcondes3908 8 дней назад +6

    Funny how they never fixed this.
    The only way to be viable with the Wizard is to build melee wizard....

  • @jaydynbristol8920
    @jaydynbristol8920 8 дней назад +1

    hahaha the pavise shield chain lightning strat is amazing

  • @bingus549
    @bingus549 8 дней назад +8

    The people who cried so hard in the early playtests forever fucked us wizard mains. i cant play until wizard doesnt suck shit

  • @MrGodPowered
    @MrGodPowered 8 дней назад +2

    BRUH 13:46 IS WILD LOL WITH THE F**KIN EYE ROLL

  • @Centorios
    @Centorios 8 дней назад +6

    As a lvl 100 wizard, i can say that the class is the worst one no matter the gear nor the game mode

    • @gonzalocornejo9267
      @gonzalocornejo9267 8 дней назад

      im sorry but people tend to forget rogues even exists xd until one catch u landmining
      but is u come across one in the open, wizard destroys him (and all other classes too)

    • @Centorios
      @Centorios 8 дней назад +2

      @@gonzalocornejo9267 I never got past 2 clicks from rogue, unless all defensive violet gear or better. if it reaches you, you are done

    • @CrizzyEyes
      @CrizzyEyes 7 дней назад +1

      @@gonzalocornejo9267 it's trivial to juke ranged projectiles as a rogue, you play against bad players

  • @TheTeagullest
    @TheTeagullest 8 дней назад

    Daaaaamn that phantomize switch out was cool

  • @noniymyordenadorelbobo1001
    @noniymyordenadorelbobo1001 7 дней назад +1

    ty jay mb someday we can play wiz again thanks to you

  • @SkeletonFootman
    @SkeletonFootman 7 дней назад

    Great video!

  • @xenird
    @xenird 6 дней назад +1

    They need to hard buff magic missile because wizard is the only class right now that is completely unviable in close combat

  • @zTerrordactyl
    @zTerrordactyl 8 дней назад

    My man with the superclean bumps!

  • @tonk1669
    @tonk1669 8 дней назад +20

    if i didnt stop playing wizz id prolly lose it

    • @MagicWandDaD
      @MagicWandDaD 8 дней назад +3

      Same here hahahha havent touched it since they binned the classs

    • @AlunethMaster
      @AlunethMaster 8 дней назад

      i lost it.

    • @bingus549
      @bingus549 8 дней назад +2

      @@MagicWandDaD same and i bet there are a lot of people who feel the same

    • @FrankieRuffino
      @FrankieRuffino 8 дней назад +1

      @@MagicWandDaDstop coping wizard is still one of if not the best class

    • @necroshq1448
      @necroshq1448 8 дней назад +6

      @@FrankieRuffinoyeah sure but you have to be playing perfectly every single time. And did you not hear jay talking about the turn around capability of other classes on rogues? Just say you are free to play already

  • @tamabiz
    @tamabiz 8 дней назад

    thumbnail is insane

  • @sdhority
    @sdhority 8 дней назад

    I just can't get over how baller that white torch skin is.

  • @DonaldPrizwan
    @DonaldPrizwan 8 дней назад

    dont deny it! i felt that bump deep in MY sinuses... you cant run from the truth!

  • @hansenbee123
    @hansenbee123 8 дней назад +2

    Promoz, COME IN JAY! COME IN!....12 seconds later, YOU GOTTA LET ME COME OUT FIRST JAY.... LOL xd

  • @raraga1959
    @raraga1959 8 дней назад +1

    way more enjoyable watching you duo with ken over repoze

    • @JamaRift
      @JamaRift 8 дней назад

      Whats is this hate? xD ken said like 5 words in the whole video lol.

  • @centemochente6922
    @centemochente6922 8 дней назад

    That panther druid got absolutely shit on, jfc.

  • @samartikov6045
    @samartikov6045 8 дней назад

    13:00 I wish we seen fight vs Rogue as well... iykyk

  • @AltoEcho
    @AltoEcho 8 дней назад

    Truly a.. Wizardable experience

  • @deceptedzbn1648
    @deceptedzbn1648 8 дней назад +3

    MAKE WIZARD GREAT AGAIN!

  • @Dohaldir
    @Dohaldir 8 дней назад

    Shout out to the redbull cans

  • @NaderinZim
    @NaderinZim 8 дней назад

    first guy was yami btw, love to see it.

  • @MistyMadness
    @MistyMadness 8 дней назад

    which spells you using?

  • @aldalome
    @aldalome 8 дней назад +1

    this guy looks like the handsome version of Poke

  • @zichro
    @zichro 7 дней назад +1

    they should give wizard and skill or spell that lets him escape cuz he has none

  • @ehnlyten844
    @ehnlyten844 8 дней назад

    Grimmy Rogue, it was Yami lol.

  • @relaxwithmyhorns3312
    @relaxwithmyhorns3312 6 дней назад

    Give wizzes a blink type of skill, just give it low range. Allows for some extra recoverability.

  • @lnsatiabie4364
    @lnsatiabie4364 8 дней назад

    4 arcane shields used all video which is all pvp, might as well be using 10 spell

  • @bradyperkins5024
    @bradyperkins5024 8 дней назад

    had to switch from wizard one trick to ranger warlock 😔

  • @Lom-sj2bs
    @Lom-sj2bs 8 дней назад

    Stack debuff duration and run ice and reactive shield trust

  • @AlunethMaster
    @AlunethMaster 8 дней назад +2

    ye ngl, ive never seen anything as miserable as playing wizard on dark and darker in 20 years of gaming.

  • @BiscuitQT
    @BiscuitQT 8 дней назад

    Ive swapped to wizard for this season out of every playtest and release this is only season. Ill need therapy easily by the end of this season

  • @wildcard126
    @wildcard126 8 дней назад

    Wizard turns this game into a true horror game. If you want a taste of what the game was like before the last wipe, go into high roller as a naked wizard lol.

  • @MaddixCuhming
    @MaddixCuhming 8 дней назад

    I wish they gave wizard like a summon or something. Maybe a golem or something

  • @cam7565
    @cam7565 8 дней назад

    bro died to Y4mi who hes spoken to on darkest hour...

  • @LittleJavX
    @LittleJavX 7 дней назад

    How many times did he use his wiz Q throughout the video? 😂

  • @jbr6734
    @jbr6734 8 дней назад

    Damn he ain’t show the rest of the clip where y4mi 1v2s him after they kill his bard friend

  • @sebastianduqueallen3277
    @sebastianduqueallen3277 4 дня назад

    me and my buddy at 17 minutes hell yeah gg

  • @DunkSkunk
    @DunkSkunk 8 дней назад

    Warlocks are very dumb usually . I love splashing them with the heat

  • @Lith333
    @Lith333 7 дней назад

    I think they have been replaced by warlocks. Took me a while to complete that kill warlock/wizard quest for the alchemist cause I couldn't find a wizard. Finally found a poor afk wizard in HC that I killed with 2 arrows. Sorry dude.

  • @benjiwby
    @benjiwby 4 дня назад

    jays finally using arcane shield.. took long enough

  • @rekrn12345
    @rekrn12345 8 дней назад

    Can't curse a cleric because of protection from evil lol.

  • @johnvargo1242
    @johnvargo1242 8 дней назад +1

    Y4mi was grimmy rogue !!!!

  • @demolishweaklings
    @demolishweaklings 7 дней назад

    Ayo can you make a build guide for this build? I didn't even know wizard can use xbow lmao. Noob ofc.

  • @averyyeen
    @averyyeen 8 дней назад +2

    I dont think ive seen a wizard in game since last wipe, I guess it really is that bad XD

    • @LVOskarliNE
      @LVOskarliNE 8 дней назад

      well yeah looks like the other casters are just better

    • @DunkSkunk
      @DunkSkunk 8 дней назад +1

      I'll get on and smoke a few people but yeah you just die to a landmine rogue with no counter or a barb you can't even get enough space to cast one time if unluckily ratted you

    • @DunkSkunk
      @DunkSkunk 8 дней назад

      ​​@@LVOskarliNE I'd still rather wiz than warlock every single day, not to mention how easily I cook those guys

    • @JamaRift
      @JamaRift 8 дней назад

      @@DunkSkunk DId u hear about a spell called light orb?

    • @mikhi7866
      @mikhi7866 8 дней назад

      @@JamaRift Which gimps your entire kit or forces you to 10 spells, and has a chance of not even helping at all

  • @DespiDND
    @DespiDND 7 дней назад

    i think most wizard mains like myself now play warlock. hence the large increase in warlock players this wipe lol

  • @Cruncherss
    @Cruncherss 8 дней назад +1

    That's how its done let them live but take the key lmfao

  • @nikitayaskevich813
    @nikitayaskevich813 5 дней назад

    Harry Potter in London

  • @TTHJJD100
    @TTHJJD100 8 дней назад

    Bruh got sniped by Yami with double grim's rough

  • @cagxplays9602
    @cagxplays9602 8 дней назад

    People love to talk about how dying to an invis rogue is such a skill issue though XD Atleast druid land mine makes some noise before they hit you, rogue walks directly up to you still invis...
    This is part of why I'm never removing dreamwalk from my druid, because fuck rogues.
    (I don't play landmine druid either dw im not cringe)

  • @YaBoiiGermy
    @YaBoiiGermy 6 дней назад

    How tf you always getting keys Jay. I’ve killed many skele champs and wraiths and haven’t gotten it to drop once lol

  • @hazofr2109
    @hazofr2109 8 дней назад

    its dirty rogues

  • @Bhancebaylor
    @Bhancebaylor 8 дней назад +4

    Jay the typa guy to have over 10 million power in rise of kingdoms fr

  • @erich1380
    @erich1380 8 дней назад

    How does he not release thats yami lol

    • @jaygriffyuh
      @jaygriffyuh  8 дней назад

      I saw his name in deathcam wym?

    • @erich1380
      @erich1380 8 дней назад

      ​@@jaygriffyuhOh unless I missed it you didn't say anything

  • @vayr880
    @vayr880 8 дней назад

    wizard best class in game and all games that has it

  • @IXxCodyxXI
    @IXxCodyxXI 8 дней назад

    Wizard is easily one of the worst classes in the game right now, and its only going to get worse because Ironmace literally only knows how to nerf wizard regardless of what the reality of the class balance actually is.

  • @vanish5541
    @vanish5541 8 дней назад

    That rouge was me

  • @leespiderpod
    @leespiderpod 7 дней назад

    Use mage hand

  • @DQ1Hater
    @DQ1Hater 7 дней назад

    Great for pvp not for pve

  • @mathew4485
    @mathew4485 8 дней назад

    Wizards get their spell potions again, they’re unstoppable!!

    • @DunkSkunk
      @DunkSkunk 8 дней назад +1

      Except that hardly makes a difference with what the class is like right now
      Actually doesn't make a difference. I'd just campy I have clarity in my stash stacking up.

    • @if-not-now
      @if-not-now 4 дня назад

      they already brought clarity pots back, they're much weaker than before

  • @Backstabking
    @Backstabking 7 дней назад

    wizard is fine

  • @oldsoul1758
    @oldsoul1758 8 дней назад +6

    Sorcerer and Wizard are both in the shop. When Sorcerer releases.....wizard will get a revamp and be strong.

    • @bingus549
      @bingus549 8 дней назад +5

      ill believe it when i see it

    • @toxicmagnaguard
      @toxicmagnaguard 8 дней назад

      Or be dogshit and sorc is far superior

  • @splaashbandicoot
    @splaashbandicoot 7 дней назад

    This cleric bullshit needs to stop

  • @Shamanology
    @Shamanology 8 дней назад +1

    Honestly i wouldnt play this game if not for wizard. yes its fucked sometimes, especially at jays gearscore/skill level, but wizard is still fun af.

    • @datrashcanman1933
      @datrashcanman1933 8 дней назад

      I was playing solo naked wizard into Trios Goblin caves. Found the team that killed the troll and asked them to kill the cyclops. Buffed the whole team and I helped kill cyclops. Then 2 of them died cause I ran to the portals before them and when they got there all the nightmare mobs were sitting on the portals.

  • @SNUSNU4U
    @SNUSNU4U 8 дней назад +5

    IM literally DESTROYED the first community with horrible and bizarre class balancing. Hopefully they don't blow through the next 50k as quickly.

  • @knightofwhale2834
    @knightofwhale2834 6 дней назад

    I've played wizard since playtest 2 and It's a weird case. I still feel the wizard is extremely dominant in 3s and has crazy pvp potential if it has the space to operate (and doesn't eat any random arrows) but it is just completely without any QoL features compared to any class and PvE it is the absolute worst by a mile.
    Wizard does need help but I'm not even sure what the smartest thing to change is. A perk? A new skill? Certainly not a new spell purely used for pve? I'm not even sure if anything like this COULD fix the wizard's issues as it is but it might help a little. At the end of the day they'll still be spending half the match sitting on the ground.

  • @slimgrady6732
    @slimgrady6732 8 дней назад

    Wizard feels fine in solos tbh

    • @bingus549
      @bingus549 8 дней назад

      You're a goddamn liar

  • @tobytowns1
    @tobytowns1 8 дней назад

    just play ranger ez

    • @kingaries3098
      @kingaries3098 8 дней назад

      Ranger is only as good as your aim

  • @RawChickenGaming
    @RawChickenGaming 8 дней назад

    First!

  • @Elroy1886
    @Elroy1886 8 дней назад

    Yh cmon dude, title should say the game is miserable lmao 2 year of balancing 😂😂😂😂

  • @martydnd
    @martydnd 8 дней назад

    first 🫦

  • @banditjoe2564
    @banditjoe2564 8 дней назад

    First

  • @Akay_TM
    @Akay_TM 8 дней назад +3

    "i cant play my favorite class in dark and darker because its bad" shows multiple clips of him completely shitting on peopl

    • @itzdrdabber2115
      @itzdrdabber2115 8 дней назад

      playing as a melee wiz tho, spell caster wiz just doesnt feel great rn is all

    • @Akay_TM
      @Akay_TM 8 дней назад

      @@itzdrdabber2115 bonk wizard is the best type of wizard tho

    • @itzdrdabber2115
      @itzdrdabber2115 8 дней назад

      @@Akay_TM to each their own, I personally prefer playing caster wiz feels more wizard-like I suppose

    • @Akay_TM
      @Akay_TM 8 дней назад

      @@itzdrdabber2115 ehhh i like caster wiz aswell but just the feeling of being a spell caster and beating the shit out of a fighter is amazing

    • @DrJesus-st9rk
      @DrJesus-st9rk 8 дней назад +2

      @@Akay_TM if i wanted to beat people with a stick id play cleric or barb not wizard

  • @BananaMeat
    @BananaMeat 8 дней назад

    Honestly? Good lol, when wiz is meta the game feels awful to play

    • @bingus549
      @bingus549 8 дней назад +2

      how about a balanced game what an amazing concept

  • @astartes3979
    @astartes3979 8 дней назад

    Wiz is meta what is this dude talking about ? Every sweaty trios team has one

  • @Shuthells
    @Shuthells 8 дней назад +1

    Lol Y4mi one of the best rogue out there normal that he kill you, and the druid you litterally almost killed him by swinging no buff and missing 3 hit why do you think it's not powerfull ? two fireball kill me too and I don't cry, or when I play plated warrior the bard, rogue and all classes almost run faster than me so I can't kill them, u know every classes are lowpoint on certain aspect and i don't think wyzard is the lowest

    • @gonzalocornejo9267
      @gonzalocornejo9267 8 дней назад

      after the buffs, wizard is strong, playing a rogue not landmining is the real feat, the class is dead aside from that playstyle

    • @jaygriffyuh
      @jaygriffyuh  8 дней назад

      what

    • @Shuthells
      @Shuthells 7 дней назад

      @@jaygriffyuh I am French sorry for me writing, just saying I don't think wyzard is the weakest classes, it's just that you have to use light orb against rogue

    • @CrizzyEyes
      @CrizzyEyes 7 дней назад

      bro there's this skill you can use on fighter called sprint you should try it sometime

    • @Shuthells
      @Shuthells 7 дней назад

      @@CrizzyEyes Yeah ahah I Play ranger lol, because even with sprint you can't get close to a bard or a Ranger if he as lot of moovspeed, just do the test and you will see, I play since Playtest 3 so of course i know the spell, it's just not enough in almost all situation

  • @steelhard
    @steelhard 8 дней назад

    Bro says wizard is miserable, welcome to how warlock, ranger & rogue felt in trios for the past 2-3 wipes. You just been abusing a busted class in trios for the past 4 wipes and ur getting a reality check of what it feels to be an average class

    • @jaygriffyuh
      @jaygriffyuh  8 дней назад +1

      Cannot tell if this is troll

    • @steelhard
      @steelhard 7 дней назад +2

      @@jaygriffyuh how is it a troll. There's not a single competent trio in the game that would rather take a warlock/rogue/ranger (even in current wipe) over a wizard ever

    • @CrizzyEyes
      @CrizzyEyes 7 дней назад

      @@steelhard are you kidding? warlock is a major pain in the ass right now. you can no true scotsman your way on to the short bus with your silly takes

    • @steelhard
      @steelhard 7 дней назад

      @@CrizzyEyes Lmao warlock. Warlock is a meme in trios. Useless class unless running with triple warlock. Good luck killing any frontliner with 50 curses (only for cleric to cast a spell once and deny your whole damage of the past 5 minutes)
      There's a reason why there isn't a single actual competent team running with warlock.

    • @CrizzyEyes
      @CrizzyEyes 7 дней назад

      @@steelhard you keep talking as if you know and play with every top team in HR, just makes you sound like a clown dude. imagine reading your own comment as a stranger, there's no way you could take yourself seriously. you have no credibility

  • @gonzalocornejo9267
    @gonzalocornejo9267 8 дней назад

    i mean, having haste + invis, doesnt sound that bad for Wizard when u think of Rogues xd
    basically is a better version with no drawback of having to be stealth and walking e.e
    + versatile, u can have so much more ways to fight aside landmining...
    so, im pretty sure is not wizard the one thats struggling in the meta xd

    • @bingus549
      @bingus549 8 дней назад +1

      You've never played wiz

    • @fenrir2188
      @fenrir2188 8 дней назад

      ​@@bingus549He's never played the game at this point if he's making such a dumb comment.