I literally went out to shoot, set up all my gear and realized I brought no ammo. I was in a hurry to get out the door. It appears I went for a drive to the country. Lesson learned
Bro I bought a tikka t3 tactical back in 2014, first bolt action I ever owned. I was so excited to shoot it, drove an hour to the range, got all set up and realized I left the bolt at home. It happens to the best of us!
Remington update in 2023? Really enjoyed seeing his progress and remaining challenges. So much wisdom between Eric and Jason, amazing to see. Thanks for sharing.
Stumbled across Remmy's first video and then found the second. Best teaching video I have seen in forever! He makes us "common man" mistakes, and is good about taking the advice. Keep it coming!
In the video chatting with Remington I heard talk about when you miss, move over the width of the target at minimum and it was like a light switch in my head. I have never thought about it that way but it makes perfect sense. Even if you hit 7-8 out of 10 follow ups by just moving the measurement to impact, I bet it’s more like 9-10 out of 10 doing it your way. I learn something from you every video bud, thanks!
Hey Erik and Jason It’s awesome to see how y’all have taken young Remington under your wing and how he has improved since the first video , I’m sure with y’all helping him he will turn into champion he appears to me to have all the qualities required , congratulations Remington that was some top shelf shooting considering the conditions on the day , keep up the good work Mate and remember the three Ps Practice , Practice and more Practice , Steve .
I think I got a education with this episode. Thanks Eric and Jason. Loved the content and how good Remington has come along plus the wind and how to compensate for it.
I just found your channel brother and I'm completely floored!!! Keep sharing the passion for what we do it truly does change ppls lives when they get the bug for long range
Just got my EC Tunner last week. Got to 3 1/2 on my tunner it and was under 1/4 MOA 3 consecutive time of groups of 3 @100yrds. Using 123GR ELDM 6.5 CM
Very cool y’all helping other folks learn. Keeps the sport alive. Now Remington will share his passion as time goes on and it’s multiplies. We need to keep this sport alive and help it grow
You guys pretty much took a decent novice shooter and guided the making him pretty darn good👍 Impressive, all 3 of you. Really enjoyed your videos with Remington. I now realize what I'll be doing to get better. Thanks
I really like Cortina and him helping Remington like this only makes me like him more . It seems like people really don't want to help anyone else out anymore
The shooter community is amazing, I love going to matches and when someone needs some help everyone is willing to help out and share their wisdom and equipment, i do the same thing when i see new shooters on the range, I teach them what they want to learn, show them how to sight in and lend tools when needed.
Great videos and great mentors who are patient and clear. To read wind and make impacts in the wind we have to shoot in the wind. Turn that bipod around though so you can properly load the rifle for recoil.
In the 1 year update with Remington he refers to using his neck turning expander mandrel for neck sizing and Eric says they are smaller than the neck tension expander. I use K&M neck turners for my 223rem, 6.5x55sw and 284win, in all instances my turning expander mandrels are the same size as the bullet - .224, .264 & .284 which means that would create only an interference fit on the neck tension. I have had massive issues using custom sizing dies with my .223rem because they come with the same 3 thou neck tension as my 6.5 and .284 which considering the difference in size as a percentage it’s massive so I also neck size with the turning expander mandrel which has done away with the seating die markings on the bullet and gives consistent cartridge lengths. Today I tried the same with my 6.5 and found that finished length accuracy was almost perfect. I’m happy with the neck tension on my .223 the bullet is seated deep and I have no concerns about bullets coming loose, would the same interference fit on the 6.5 be considered acceptable or would it be better/safer to have 1, 2 or 3 thou neck tension?
Total publicity stunt!!! I call shenanigans!!! :P LMAO!! Remington needs to get on a team and learn to communicate....appropriately. You two have that experience, he doesn't have that precise language. I was surprised how quickly you three adapted.....ammo, tuner brake, horrible wind!! Way to take the time to help another shooter.....you guys are awesome. :)
I love your videos, inspiring me to go harder and shoot more. I had some feelings the same as Remington, times where my rifles that were sighted in shooting 900 yards at a 14 rock nicely were now at 100 shooting everywhere. My new 22 was doing the same, felt defeated then I figured I’ll redo the scopes on both and looked deeper. The Plano Airglide case was possibly the issue, found the rifle was shifting knocking the scope, and bubbles out of place during my travel to the range even after tightening them with extra straps. Sometimes it’s the small things, once you can find and fix them you can move on. I bought a used soft case from a friend, it’s a voodoo drag bag that fits and protects the muzzle and had a ton of straps to keep everything safe. I’ll probably update it to something better later, just need to the funds after I buy a new scope for the 22.
Another good one Eric remmy has come on a lot in these videos looking a lot more confident than the first one he's enjoying his shooting well done to you and Jason cracking job boys ...
Remington seems like one of a kind... Eric and Jason I know nothing about this have my first "precision rifle almost ready" after waiting years to build one I've learned so much from ypu two that 2moa wide target and not holding minimum 2 moa on follow up thoughts of simple things I'd never think of thanks fellas maybe someday I can shoot next to you
Eric and Jason...thank you so much for freely sharing so much of your knowledge and experience. People pay many hundreds of dollars just to attend a clinic with this caliber of instruction and theres usually 20+ other shooters there. Here we one on one with so many great tips and rules of thumb. My favorite? "Don't feed your inner bitch!" OMG! So true! Thanks for the knowledge!
Tell Remington to get a press that tells him how many pounds it takes to install a bullet doing it with pin gauges too many variables of course if he's annealing it perfectly it should work I like having the scale it's helped me a lot like the format with Jason keep up the good work
I added a break to my 53 Remington 721 270 Ackley took the recoil out of the gun 100%. The only thing I feel now is a little bit of blowback from the break or concussion but with a heavy bipod a heavy scope and the weight of the rifle itself I have zero recoil and it's helped me all in my shots at least within the 400 yard distance I get to shoot to over a 90% hit ratio. And i suck. Taking out the recoil has helped me to track misses and make instant adjustments
Most of your problem, from a fellow shooter, is anticipation. You are EXPECTING the recoil and flinchig JUST as you pull the trigger. If you can get around that, and let the rife do it's own thing when you shoot, that'll help you mentally. I also shoot archery, and we have a habit of doig the same thing.
Thank you. It's great to get some quality advice from a professional shooter that is taking the time to analyze some of my shots. As soon as I get to posting my next video I'll make sure to include some photos of me and rifle positioning as I fire and I would love to get your feedback.
Great watching this could step in his place for help with my mistakes like keeping behind scope for next shot the whole thing was awesome 2nd or 3rd time won't be the last Great stuff
Watching the video, and the comments below, it seems that Doing the math with the reticle, moa or mil rads and distance, is a weakness for most guys Perhaps we could have a tutorial on that again. Otherwise , Great fun ! And big improvement there Remington, congratulations, good on ya!! Just goes to show ya, shooting is like any other skill, if you practise and then you will get better… “ Few things are impossible to diligence and Skill” - Samual Johnson
So the wind was blowing from left of the screen to right of screen at 4.6 meters per second right, that way to right shit down people and the spotter needs to communicate with the shooter in the same language so both men understand what just happened after the shot is fired, especially the spotter, if he sees the vapour trail and its just to the left of the target and in how much distance as well, like 1 MOA is 1 target size to the right or left or hi or low etc.( also depending on the size of the target as well, some of the targets are different sizes, so saying 1 MOA to the right or left etc, will not cut it ,the spotter needs to be direct and SF snipers get trained differently to what F class shooters and spotters say to the left click 6 turns etc for wind or elevation and then it depends on what type of scope you have and its adjustments. Also the shooter then adjusts based on what the spotter is saying, especially if the shooter cant see the vapour trail etc, which is very hard to do, i have tried with the f class shooters when they are practicing sometimes i could see it and other times you cant see it it depends on th angle of the spotters point of view, which is a little to the right or left and above the shooter and you should be able to see it? cheers 🦘🦘👍👍👌👌✌✌
Wish I could add pictures to comments. Sunday was my best group. I shot a .88 at 300 yards with my 6.5 creedmoor with my SWFA SS10x42. I follow and listen to your advise. I would really like to go out and shoot with y’all, but I’m clear north in the boonies.
MOA vs MRAD is quite simple, MOA is going to give you more precise adjustments which, for bench rest/f class shooting you want. MRAD isn't as precise but is quicker so for PRS style shooting it's great. I know guys running MOA for PRS. Totally doable it just takes a little more twisting on the elevation turret is all. Like all of this it boils down to personal preference.
MOA is a smaller radian measurement compared to MIL scopes. 1MOA = .291MIL 1MIL = 3.438MOA The amount of adjustment in the turrets is roughly the same based on the scopes manufacturer. As an example the NF ATACR 7-35x56: Internal Adjustment Range E: 100 MOA/29 MRAD W: 60 MOA/17 MRAD 100MOA / 3.438 = 29.08MIL 60MOA / 3.438 = 17.45MIL MOA typically has .25 click adjustments and MIL has .1 click adjustments. The amount adjusted is .25MOA / 3.438 = .073MIL where as for .1MIl * 3.438 = .3438MOA. If using holds you will hold less with a MIL scope compared to a MOA scope. MOA is a better choice for F-Class type shooting. Known distance, score shooting. MIL is better for field work, PRS type shooting with multiple targets at varying ranges. Forgot to add this: Personal preference! What really impressed me was Remingtons knowledge of his reticle. He knew what his sub-tensions measured. He knew his reticle. Study your reticle. Look in the owners manual and learn what each line represents.
Sniper guy all business in a hurry. Weird I’ve been around a lot of SF guys at Dam Neck and they are always really chill dudes. Especially when we shot at the range in Chesapeake at the North West Annex or Radio Station. Allegedly lol
I have a question for Eric and Jason. I live in Arkansas in the Ouachita Mountains. From bench to target, there is a considerable difference both in range and altitude. I am shooting downhill only from 300 yard @100 feet of elevation below me to 1350 yards @300 feet below me shooting approximately 15-20° (or whatever that degree is). How do I correctly compensate for this if I am trying to confirm my fps on my Kestrel between 850-950 yards with my 260rem? I understand dialing the numbers of where it’s supposed to hit at that range as well as how to adjust this on my kestrel once I’ve placed rounds on target but making those hits for the terrain I’m in seems to be the end all of me wanting to reload over and over with the same results. Any suggestions from you two would be hopeful. Love the content and keep it up!
Let’s make sure I’m understanding this correctly. From your firing point to the target at 300yds, that target is 100ft lower than your firing position? Then from that same firing point you have a target @ 1350yds which is 300ft lower than your firing position? At that distance, the difference in elevation for your hold is within the noise of shooter error. What is your hold for 1350? Are you using a MOA or MIL scope? For MOA subtract about 3.4MOA from your hold For MIL take your hold and subtract about 2.1 from it. Example hold is 13.5 - 2.1 = 11.4 If it were me I would not worry about the angle at that distance unless it was 30 degrees or over. Also you can use the kestrel to calculate the inclination and get your solution.
I am not shooting 1350 yards though. I just have that option. Per the recommendation of Kestrel, I would need to be shooting between 850-950 yards to get a more accurate fps on my loads. Since I have to shoot at a down angle I suppose I confused myself and overthought it because it’s not semi flat from point of fire to target.
@@keegancrue7432 try using your kestrel to calculate the change in holds. First shoot at the target at 1300 with your normal hold. Then shoot again using the calculated hold with the same point of aim and compare the impacts.
I would have gone 1” high at 100. Then used a 2ft hold over at 500 for starters. Didn’t he say 13” elevation for starters at 568? Where’s Carlos Hathcock when you need him?
If you're going to bring the wrong gun. Definitely with the right people for extra ammo and gear. I always pack extra when I go just for that reason. Dam kids play me well.. lol but I have more fun reloading it.
I learned the hard way to write my loads on the cases during development as I am a dumbass and have dropped the ammo box and mixed all the test cases. And thought it would be ok to not write the caliber on my ammo boxes, 3 different calibers I have and have ended up on the range with the wrong ammo box!!! Boy I was pissed at myself
These videos with Remmy are perfect. He's a good representative for the kinds of lessons a lot of us out here need.
I literally went out to shoot, set up all my gear and realized I brought no ammo. I was in a hurry to get out the door.
It appears I went for a drive to the country.
Lesson learned
The call with the lady was hilarious
It's great to see pro /experienced shooters taking the time to help new shooters.
Bro I bought a tikka t3 tactical back in 2014, first bolt action I ever owned. I was so excited to shoot it, drove an hour to the range, got all set up and realized I left the bolt at home. It happens to the best of us!
Remington update in 2023? Really enjoyed seeing his progress and remaining challenges. So much wisdom between Eric and Jason, amazing to see. Thanks for sharing.
Remington is lucky to have both of you teaching him. The 308 ammo, the EC Tuner and the right advice on sight adjustments made the rifle a laser!👍👍
Stumbled across Remmy's first video and then found the second. Best teaching video I have seen in forever! He makes us "common man" mistakes, and is good about taking the advice. Keep it coming!
In the video chatting with Remington I heard talk about when you miss, move over the width of the target at minimum and it was like a light switch in my head. I have never thought about it that way but it makes perfect sense. Even if you hit 7-8 out of 10 follow ups by just moving the measurement to impact, I bet it’s more like 9-10 out of 10 doing it your way. I learn something from you every video bud, thanks!
Safe siding the target
The fact, that this is ammo not tailored for this gun makes this all that much better! Mad props to jason, as his reloading process is on point!
Hey Erik and Jason
It’s awesome to see how y’all have taken young Remington under your wing and how he has improved since the first video , I’m sure with y’all helping him he will turn into champion he appears to me to have all the qualities required , congratulations Remington that was some top shelf shooting considering the conditions on the day , keep up the good work Mate and remember the three Ps Practice , Practice and more Practice , Steve .
💯 👊
I think I got a education with this episode.
Thanks Eric and Jason. Loved the content and how good Remington has come along plus the wind and how to compensate for it.
Good to see he is a lot more confident behind the rifle.
I just found your channel brother and I'm completely floored!!! Keep sharing the passion for what we do it truly does change ppls lives when they get the bug for long range
These Remington videos are awesome. As a new shooter I get to see what a pro tells another new shooter what and how. Its almost as if I am there.
Great video. Glad you had him back on. He looks like a different shooter. You can tell he wants to better himself and is doing it.
All of us over 40 can laugh at our math teachers now! They said we wouldn't always have a calculator with us. Boy, have we showed them!
Hahahahahaha! Damn skippy!
Lol... I still have the conversion formula on my mildot master and a solar calculator in my bag just in case. And of course my dope.
It’s pretty amazing to see how well the tuner works. I’m going to have to get one for my hunting rig.
Just got my EC Tunner last week. Got to 3 1/2 on my tunner it and was under 1/4 MOA 3 consecutive time of groups of 3 @100yrds. Using 123GR ELDM 6.5 CM
Jason, really awesome of you to help Remington out with the ammo. I really enjoy the content Erik, I’m definitely jealous.
That was cool to see the conversation and shooting with Remington after his first visit.
Very cool y’all helping other folks learn. Keeps the sport alive. Now Remington will share his passion as time goes on and it’s multiplies. We need to keep this sport alive and help it grow
You guys pretty much took a decent novice shooter and guided the making him pretty darn good👍
Impressive, all 3 of you.
Really enjoyed your videos with Remington.
I now realize what I'll be doing to get better.
Thanks
I really like Cortina and him helping Remington like this only makes me like him more . It seems like people really don't want to help anyone else out anymore
The shooter community is amazing, I love going to matches and when someone needs some help everyone is willing to help out and share their wisdom and equipment, i do the same thing when i see new shooters on the range, I teach them what they want to learn, show them how to sight in and lend tools when needed.
Great videos and great mentors who are patient and clear. To read wind and make impacts in the wind we have to shoot in the wind. Turn that bipod around though so you can properly load the rifle for recoil.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one that would have done this... Well done, Remington.
Well, now I definitely need to get a Tuner Brake! Wow! Nice shooting Remington!
Eric and Jason did a awesome job helping, thanks for the channel, I have learned a lot
Really cool to see how much he has improved from the first video.
In the 1 year update with Remington he refers to using his neck turning expander mandrel for neck sizing and Eric says they are smaller than the neck tension expander. I use K&M neck turners for my 223rem, 6.5x55sw and 284win, in all instances my turning expander mandrels are the same size as the bullet - .224, .264 & .284 which means that would create only an interference fit on the neck tension. I have had massive issues using custom sizing dies with my .223rem because they come with the same 3 thou neck tension as my 6.5 and .284 which considering the difference in size as a percentage it’s massive so I also neck size with the turning expander mandrel which has done away with the seating die markings on the bullet and gives consistent cartridge lengths. Today I tried the same with my 6.5 and found that finished length accuracy was almost perfect.
I’m happy with the neck tension on my .223 the bullet is seated deep and I have no concerns about bullets coming loose, would the same interference fit on the 6.5 be considered acceptable or would it be better/safer to have 1, 2 or 3 thou neck tension?
That intro is the funniest stuff I've seen in a long time.
remington was trying his best to learn. good work
Total publicity stunt!!! I call shenanigans!!! :P LMAO!! Remington needs to get on a team and learn to communicate....appropriately. You two have that experience, he doesn't have that precise language. I was surprised how quickly you three adapted.....ammo, tuner brake, horrible wind!! Way to take the time to help another shooter.....you guys are awesome. :)
...no idea what I'm watching but I love it!!
LOL, my lesson for the day impact or miss big. Also learning something with your video's. Appreciate you taking the time to make them.
It doesn't get any better than that sharing the passion !
Remington definitely putting in the work great job man.
Another great video, Thanks Erik and Jason
Many greetings from Germany. Erik you are cool and not arrogant like many other (pro)shooters. I like all your Videos.
Congratulations Remington, you have improved an awful lot!
I love your videos, inspiring me to go harder and shoot more. I had some feelings the same as Remington, times where my rifles that were sighted in shooting 900 yards at a 14 rock nicely were now at 100 shooting everywhere. My new 22 was doing the same, felt defeated then I figured I’ll redo the scopes on both and looked deeper. The Plano Airglide case was possibly the issue, found the rifle was shifting knocking the scope, and bubbles out of place during my travel to the range even after tightening them with extra straps. Sometimes it’s the small things, once you can find and fix them you can move on. I bought a used soft case from a friend, it’s a voodoo drag bag that fits and protects the muzzle and had a ton of straps to keep everything safe. I’ll probably update it to something better later, just need to the funds after I buy a new scope for the 22.
Awesome vid ..... great to see the flow of information from Pro to Novice!
He is getting better and love seeing this .....
Another good one Eric remmy has come on a lot in these videos looking a lot more confident than the first one he's enjoying his shooting well done to you and Jason cracking job boys ...
All of a sudden, I don't feel so bad about my bad days, lol. Great video. Like the way Jason communicates
That was awesome, good work gentlemen!
I usually stay home in wind like that. That was impressive. The barrel tuner was also impressive.
Thanks Eric and Jason. Always a fun watch. Good shooting Remington. Communication - everyone has to be speaking the same language 🙂
Jason is the man
More impressed the more I see of him, you picked well Erik.
Thank you. Very kind
I would like to talk to you about the kestrel
@@rebelbarnes5839 let’s talk.
Impressive Remington looking good
I feel for him knowing even less I learned so much just in how they communicated and what tools they used.
Shooter dialogue is huge. We threw a lot at Remington. He handled it well. Somethings to work on.
Came across the channel randomly in the backround while I was doing some reloading, needless to say i'm subscribed.
Thanks Erik and Jason great information . I will need to watch a few times to take all info the in
If you have questions, ask them please.
Well I just ordered my tuner break. Hurry up and ship that sucker to Alaska. I got a week off and hopefully I can try it out!
Remington seems like one of a kind... Eric and Jason I know nothing about this have my first "precision rifle almost ready" after waiting years to build one I've learned so much from ypu two that 2moa wide target and not holding minimum 2 moa on follow up thoughts of simple things I'd never think of thanks fellas maybe someday I can shoot next to you
Eric and Jason...thank you so much for freely sharing so much of your knowledge and experience. People pay many hundreds of dollars just to attend a clinic with this caliber of instruction and theres usually 20+ other shooters there. Here we one on one with so many great tips and rules of thumb. My favorite? "Don't feed your inner bitch!" OMG! So true! Thanks for the knowledge!
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Tell Remington to get a press that tells him how many pounds it takes to install a bullet doing it with pin gauges too many variables of course if he's annealing it perfectly it should work I like having the scale it's helped me a lot like the format with Jason keep up the good work
This is the video I've been wanting for!
That was great to watch, listen and learn. Both episodes👍🏻🇺🇸
This needs to be a yearly video!
Right on Eric!
Thanks for the video and good shooting by Remington.
When Erik heard the words about the lands... :DDD his reaction was exactly what I was expecting from him :D
I added a break to my 53 Remington 721 270 Ackley took the recoil out of the gun 100%. The only thing I feel now is a little bit of blowback from the break or concussion but with a heavy bipod a heavy scope and the weight of the rifle itself I have zero recoil and it's helped me all in my shots at least within the 400 yard distance I get to shoot to over a 90% hit ratio. And i suck. Taking out the recoil has helped me to track misses and make instant adjustments
And I suck.....lol, that made me laugh. And figure I should get a break ordered as well. 🤣. Keep shooting man. 👍
Most of your problem, from a fellow shooter, is anticipation. You are EXPECTING the recoil and flinchig JUST as you pull the trigger. If you can get around that, and let the rife do it's own thing when you shoot, that'll help you mentally. I also shoot archery, and we have a habit of doig the same thing.
Thank you. It's great to get some quality advice from a professional shooter that is taking the time to analyze some of my shots. As soon as I get to posting my next video I'll make sure to include some photos of me and rifle positioning as I fire and I would love to get your feedback.
You should put orange marking tape 10" long on the targets to determine which way the wind is blowing. Save anmo
That bolt is SO smooth.
Goes to show how well EC Tuner works. 2023 push him out to 1000
I would have loved hearing the conversation about mils vs moa over the wind :(
Great video , great interaction between you guys !
Great video! Remington should be listening to Jason though. A 1/10 of mil is larger than a 1/4 moa.
Erik, you sir, need to open a school!!!! I'll be one of the first to sign up for it!!! Exclant video!!
Jason is a man of little word, but he knows
Great watching this could step in his place for help with my mistakes like keeping behind scope for next shot the whole thing was awesome 2nd or 3rd time won't be the last Great stuff
Boot camp for Remy!!!! May have been some nerves there 🤘🤘 great shooting!
Thats what I like to see, thought this video may be coming
Watching the video, and the comments below, it seems that
Doing the math with the reticle, moa or mil rads and distance, is a weakness for most guys
Perhaps we could have a tutorial on that again.
Otherwise , Great fun ! And big improvement there Remington, congratulations, good on ya!!
Just goes to show ya, shooting is like any other skill, if you practise and
then you will get better…
“ Few things are impossible to diligence and Skill” - Samual Johnson
Time to jump into a PRS match Mr Remington
Amazing. I just got into shooting outside of just hunting. It is hard, everyone on youtube makes it look so easy haha
So the wind was blowing from left of the screen to right of screen at 4.6 meters per second right, that way to right shit down people and the spotter needs to communicate with the shooter in the same language so both men understand what just happened after the shot is fired, especially the spotter, if he sees the vapour trail and its just to the left of the target and in how much distance as well, like 1 MOA is 1 target size to the right or left or hi or low etc.( also depending on the size of the target as well, some of the targets are different sizes, so saying 1 MOA to the right or left etc, will not cut it ,the spotter needs to be direct and SF snipers get trained differently to what F class shooters and spotters say to the left click 6 turns etc for wind or elevation and then it depends on what type of scope you have and its adjustments.
Also the shooter then adjusts based on what the spotter is saying, especially if the shooter cant see the vapour trail etc, which is very hard to do, i have tried with the f class shooters when they are practicing sometimes i could see it and other times you cant see it it depends on th angle of the spotters point of view, which is a little to the right or left and above the shooter and you should be able to see it? cheers 🦘🦘👍👍👌👌✌✌
Dang looks like fun. Thanks for sharing your day
Wish I could add pictures to comments. Sunday was my best group. I shot a .88 at 300 yards with my 6.5 creedmoor with my SWFA SS10x42. I follow and listen to your advise. I would really like to go out and shoot with y’all, but I’m clear north in the boonies.
Nice to see I'm not the only one that forgets stuff when being rushed out of the house... ;)
Love these videos!
Remington seems much more relaxed in this video! 😉
Another good video! Thank you
This was an interesting video thanks!
Eric please make barricade guides, and oroper tripod guide
Thank you for the ideas. I will talk to Erik about making these videos.
Communication and fallow through…..and buy an EC tuber break! Good video!🤘🏻 Eric can you do a pros and con of MOA vs MILS
MOA vs MRAD is quite simple, MOA is going to give you more precise adjustments which, for bench rest/f class shooting you want. MRAD isn't as precise but is quicker so for PRS style shooting it's great. I know guys running MOA for PRS. Totally doable it just takes a little more twisting on the elevation turret is all. Like all of this it boils down to personal preference.
MOA is a smaller radian measurement compared to MIL scopes.
1MOA = .291MIL
1MIL = 3.438MOA
The amount of adjustment in the turrets is roughly the same based on the scopes manufacturer. As an example the NF ATACR 7-35x56:
Internal Adjustment Range
E: 100 MOA/29 MRAD W: 60 MOA/17 MRAD
100MOA / 3.438 = 29.08MIL
60MOA / 3.438 = 17.45MIL
MOA typically has .25 click adjustments and MIL has .1 click adjustments. The amount adjusted is .25MOA / 3.438 = .073MIL where as for .1MIl * 3.438 = .3438MOA.
If using holds you will hold less with a MIL scope compared to a MOA scope.
MOA is a better choice for F-Class type shooting. Known distance, score shooting.
MIL is better for field work, PRS type shooting with multiple targets at varying ranges.
Forgot to add this: Personal preference!
What really impressed me was Remingtons knowledge of his reticle. He knew what his sub-tensions measured. He knew his reticle. Study your reticle. Look in the owners manual and learn what each line represents.
Eric, you have to do a 6 month follow up.
Doing good Remington
Great vid fellers
Sniper guy all business in a hurry. Weird I’ve been around a lot of SF guys at Dam Neck and they are always really chill dudes. Especially when we shot at the range in Chesapeake at the North West Annex or Radio Station. Allegedly lol
Nothing is more true than somedays its great and you feel like youre on top of the world.
And some days, it just seems like its awful.
I have a question for Eric and Jason. I live in Arkansas in the Ouachita Mountains. From bench to target, there is a considerable difference both in range and altitude. I am shooting downhill only from 300 yard @100 feet of elevation below me to 1350 yards @300 feet below me shooting approximately 15-20° (or whatever that degree is). How do I correctly compensate for this if I am trying to confirm my fps on my Kestrel between 850-950 yards with my 260rem? I understand dialing the numbers of where it’s supposed to hit at that range as well as how to adjust this on my kestrel once I’ve placed rounds on target but making those hits for the terrain I’m in seems to be the end all of me wanting to reload over and over with the same results. Any suggestions from you two would be hopeful. Love the content and keep it up!
Let’s make sure I’m understanding this correctly. From your firing point to the target at 300yds, that target is 100ft lower than your firing position? Then from that same firing point you have a target @ 1350yds which is 300ft lower than your firing position? At that distance, the difference in elevation for your hold is within the noise of shooter error. What is your hold for 1350? Are you using a MOA or MIL scope?
For MOA subtract about 3.4MOA from your hold
For MIL take your hold and subtract about 2.1 from it. Example hold is 13.5 - 2.1 = 11.4
If it were me I would not worry about the angle at that distance unless it was 30 degrees or over.
Also you can use the kestrel to calculate the inclination and get your solution.
How you repeated it was how I asked, correct. I am using MOA. Thank you for the insight and correction.
I am not shooting 1350 yards though. I just have that option. Per the recommendation of Kestrel, I would need to be shooting between 850-950 yards to get a more accurate fps on my loads. Since I have to shoot at a down angle I suppose I confused myself and overthought it because it’s not semi flat from point of fire to target.
@@keegancrue7432 try using your kestrel to calculate the change in holds. First shoot at the target at 1300 with your normal hold. Then shoot again using the calculated hold with the same point of aim and compare the impacts.
@@keegancrue7432 understandable. True your gun out at that recommended distance and verify your MV. Then have some fun shooting further. 😂
Clearly the mistake was not bringing both 308 and 284 rifles, AND both 308 and 284 ammo. Embrace the power of AND.
I would have gone 1” high at 100. Then used a 2ft hold over at 500 for starters. Didn’t he say 13” elevation for starters at 568? Where’s Carlos Hathcock when you need him?
id clean your shop for a week to get that kind of coaching a few hours... and bring the right gun and ammo. XD
Great video! I wanna come shoot with yall!
Me too
If you're going to bring the wrong gun. Definitely with the right people for extra ammo and gear. I always pack extra when I go just for that reason. Dam kids play me well.. lol but I have more fun reloading it.
I learned the hard way to write my loads on the cases during development as I am a dumbass and have dropped the ammo box and mixed all the test cases. And thought it would be ok to not write the caliber on my ammo boxes, 3 different calibers I have and have ended up on the range with the wrong ammo box!!! Boy I was pissed at myself
Remmy is one cool dude 😅
Lol, been there done that. 🙈 Nothing better than shooting OPA, other peoples ammo. 👍👍