Hit it on the nose penniless as a fellow f2p player myself, I can't help but agree. I think another problem is that every class (except warrior) has basically only one viable deck. This makes it even harder for f2p players succeed cause now they have to craft many, many class legendaries and epics. used to be able to craft about 3 full decks an expac but in uldum, i could only afford 2 while keeping my collection relatively healthy.
The guys at Heartstone Mathematics have made some good videos explaining how the cost of the game in general has been increasing through the years. The people that buys pack have to buy even more nowadays to get a good collection and they are pushing f2p player out of the ecuation. I guess raking more money than what they need is worth the bleeding of the playerbase and losing the apreciation of the fanbase.
Well I am another f2p and I dont have that problem I have the murloc paladín (he only need 6 epics(murloc warleader, the prisma and the 8 spell that summon 7 murloc) , 8 if you want to add the amalgam that is not nesesary) and the legendaries are in most cases useless, in the totally of the games I played the only legendary that I play is zepherys and the others like chef nomi and leeroy I ever played, specially nomi and zepherys is sometimes that I play him. This deck only need the epics not the legendaries, ah and I have brann and zepherys because in my aperture of packs I got that two and I have the dust to craft hightlander hunter, but is more funny to play in wild
I felt this expansion like: OH NICE I GOT A LEGENDARY! Let'me see in which decks can I use it! Oh I just need 6 or more legendaries and some epics too... Ok so... I'll end this season at 10 T-T
The hard truth is that we don't get to choose the legendaries we open. So if you happen to open most legendaries not from the half that you wanted, it's a #feelsbad moment.
Or you could stop bitching and just dust stuff. Ive been f2p for 5 years and have never been in a situation where I didnt have cards to dust for a new deck
thats why you play wild, overal cheaper(escpially once got staples) and if dont have specefic are lot more options for evrything and multiple good decks that cost less then a legendary(like mech hunter which only required legendary is teh free snipsnap) and cards dont rotate youl always have acces to them, to play competive its lot cheaper in long for wild, and you need lot less per expansion to be competive(if you just want evry card possible ever ofc its gonna be more expensive then to get all standard cards atleast in short amount of time) but for competive its lot cheaper.
In my second uldum pack I opened Tekahn and I was really happy because I specifically wanted to play zoo. Then I found out zoo was bad and doesn't even run Tekahn... since then I've opened Anka, Colossus of the moon and Tinkmaster overspark :/
I figure the defined "optimal" decks became more expensive, I never was one to opt for a full decklist of anything as saying that the decks "required" those legendaries. I played Highlander Mage without owning a Yogg-box, Kalecgos, Siamat or Vulpera at the time. Had Ysera, Messenger Raven, Toki and put a Flakmage in. Then I reached Legend utilising my own Zoolock that doesn't have Soularium and Tekahn, and remember the hype around "needing" Rafaam for Zoolock in RoS? Disappointed that Zoolock has been put down so hard in this video even though it got plenty of powerful tools in Uldum with the EVIL Recruiter, Neferset Thrasher and Diseased Vulture. I used Quicksand Elemental, which I saw 0 people playing. They definitely did reduce the trashiness of the worst epics and legendaries, meaning so many become useful, I can agree with that. Bloodsworn Mercenary being a key piece for Aggro Warrior, and Psychopomp for Priest, as well as the Tortollan Pilgrim for Mage, lots of good epics. Octosari and Colossus of the Moon both have their niche uses, which cannot be said for cards like Duskfallen Aviana or Harbinger Celestia.
I remember first noticing the "epic problem" in Hearthstone when The Grand Tournament released and they made Twilight Guardian, an incredibly simple and overpowered card that would be auto include in any dragon deck, an epic. Over time they have just done it more and more
This is the experience what I felt when I started playing. It was araund Gadgetzan and it felt like Blizzard said:"Hello we make this very good decks that need a lot of pieces. If you don't like them or can't get them you will SUCK."
Blizzard's greed is why I only ever play HS now against friends, where we can dick around with our bizarro decks and don't have to give a crap about the meta. It's comfy af and honestly the thought of queueing up into ladder makes me feel ill by comparison.
I've thought this for a while but I think it's insulting that a pack only contains five cards. Maybe when it first came out that made sense but assembling decks across multiple expansion card pools is way too unforgiving. The game in general really needs to be more generous with resources to encourage people to keep playing.
Glad to see you back, penniless! I'd love to do some friendlies with you sometime, now that I have completed my classic collection. As for the meta analysis, I appreciate how honestly you've summerized it. I can agree with many of the statements you make here, good job.
Reached top 500 Legend on EU using only Quest Shaman so yeah the deck is pretty good if played properly.The mistake most people do when playing the deck is that they use the Double Battlecry Hero power the whole time.
For everyone’s own benefit, just pause this video at 0:32 and go put on BOOM BOOM BOOM. I just put it on and listened twice, still amazing. Hey Penny, I want you in my room.
As someone who is also FTP and only plays mage, it's sad to see the top decks nerfed so quickly after years without any decent decks. At least Casino Mage will always have a place in my heart. All hail Yogg!
I hope so, whenever I see a priest all my focus goes into dealing with "Inner Fire", its at the point I don't see priest as priest its just the "Inner Fire" class to me and its kind of sad to see all these options and being like: "Is this better then Inner Fire?" Answer: "No".
@@nileboy5055 Yeah it has always been a thing. But Priest just constantly falls back on it. It's not interesting and it's very limiting. I'd rather they replaced Inner Fire with something like Kabal Talonpriest, Sandhoof Waterbearer, or maybe even Penance. Base set Priest is desperate for some good cards. It has Northshire Cleric and Power Word:Shield. Admittedly these are two of the strongest cards in the game, but it's not enough. Inner Fire and Divine Spirit are only powerful together.
It's strange As a player, it's good to open an epic or legendary and know it will be played But It's also good to know if you want to build a deck, you only need 2-3 epics/legendaries
I'm penniless as well but i run highlander hunter, battlecry shaman, tempo rogue and Murloc Paladin. Because everything is balanced and fine. Just because you don't have a sufficient amount of legendaries doesn't mean you can complain. If you go for a set amount of decks each expansion, you can never go wrong.
I think a big issue with this meta is that it's extremely polarized. There's a good number of auto-concede matchups out there. Like Quest Paladin vs. Control Warrior: Quest Paladin has an 80% winrate in that matchup! It's ridiculous. I think another big reason why Battlecry Shaman is so popular is because it's not very polarized; unlike, say, Control Warrior, Quest Shaman doesn't have any auto-concede matchups that you simply cannot win. So it's an ideal deck to climb with, since there's less risk of repeatedly running into bad matchups on the ladder.
They managed to balance a meta so well it hurts f2p...well done and I thought I was going crazy with my collection and deck building. Glad to be reassured of this problem and hopefully we get some changes once the next set comes around.
I've just started the video, so I dunno what points will be brought up yet, but I really enjoy almost everything about this post-nerf meta. I say almost, because a very fast Divine Spirit Inner Fire Priest exists, and that's a deck archetype I've hated since Hearthstone's inception. I greatly enjoy playing my various builds of Quest Shaman, Quest Paladin and a few silly homebrews, and while I don't like to play the other big decks in the meta, all of them I find fun to play against, which is a nice thing. Pushing Highlander decks into repeated "have this answer right now or you're boned" situations, overwhelming Control Warriors with incremental advantages, picking apart Murloc boards, it's all good stuff. I've now gotten to the end of the video, and I have to say that I do see the point of complaining about prices. It hasn't affected me at all personally, but that's because I've zero interest in playing Wild, ever, and simply strip-mine old sets for Dust as soon as they rotate - the only cards I have in my Wild collection are ones I can't disenchant, like Marin the Fox, and my one golden Azure Drake, who will remain there forever for dumb sentimental reasons, as it was a linchpin of so many of my decks before it got kicked out (card draw, spell power and dragon tribe hits so many of the archetypes I've enjoyed). As a result, I'm sitting on a dragon's hoard of something like 650,000 Dust.
Honorable mention goes to Combo Priest for being a decently prominent aggro player in the meta. Popularity wise, I'd say that's the aggro deck to beat, not Murloc Paladin.
Warrior is almost ENTIRELY made to just kill your stuff, which is why it can control the game so easily. It’s no wonder that players hated it so much if it was control.
The penniless player: _"Later sets are the ones that have the most likely to have stronger cards, increasing the value of purchasing them"._ *Proceeds to buy tons of Rastakhan packs* The Peniless Player: _"nvm it's worse than Un'Goro in terms of powercreep, LOL"._
This is why WhizBang is the only deck I run still, crafted in normal and golden depending on my mood. It's basically the equivalent of Making the game free to play, but It's now $15 a month to Build your own Deck Unless it's face-hunter and if you don't subscribe you get a random shit deck that craps on you for resisting Pavlovian training.
I don’t agree with the “corporate greed” section. It’s a by product of the “no duplicates” effect. Personally, I loved Reno meta and love no duplicate decks, love playing them and playing vs them. You see more interesting cards and have more interesting moments as more cards make lists that normally would never see play. I’ll take costing a bit more so long as the games a lot more fun (which it is).
Quest shaman doesnt suck it's all over ladder, on my way to legend that's mostly what I played against, except for the combo preist every now and again.
2:17, no, Murloc paladin isn't awesome, it's the worst deck in the meta, it decided by weather or not you play prismatic lens on turn 4 and requires no skill to play.
but it's just murlocs. its a nice board,but either brawl or hellfire make the card useless. the tempo swing is only good because it has 2 of those+nomi,which means the around ~3 aoes control decks have are barely enough to defeat the swings,not the normal played minions.
@@leobastian_ You can mostly as a Zoolock perhaps, I've been playing Plot Twist Warlock with the Quest kind of a lot during the expansion, usually agains't murloc decks it's a miracly if you can stay alive on turn 7.
Welcome back,
The Penniless Player! :]
This feels like the first video in years.
Isaí Colín lol tell me about it
Hit it on the nose penniless as a fellow f2p player myself, I can't help but agree. I think another problem is that every class (except warrior) has basically only one viable deck. This makes it even harder for f2p players succeed cause now they have to craft many, many class legendaries and epics. used to be able to craft about 3 full decks an expac but in uldum, i could only afford 2 while keeping my collection relatively healthy.
The guys at Heartstone Mathematics have made some good videos explaining how the cost of the game in general has been increasing through the years. The people that buys pack have to buy even more nowadays to get a good collection and they are pushing f2p player out of the ecuation. I guess raking more money than what they need is worth the bleeding of the playerbase and losing the apreciation of the fanbase.
Well I am another f2p and I dont have that problem I have the murloc paladín (he only need 6 epics(murloc warleader, the prisma and the 8 spell that summon 7 murloc) , 8 if you want to add the amalgam that is not nesesary) and the legendaries are in most cases useless, in the totally of the games I played the only legendary that I play is zepherys and the others like chef nomi and leeroy I ever played, specially nomi and zepherys is sometimes that I play him. This deck only need the epics not the legendaries, ah and I have brann and zepherys because in my aperture of packs I got that two and I have the dust to craft hightlander hunter, but is more funny to play in wild
7:50 yes I agree brawl was garbage compared to void contract
I would play void contract if it cost 4. Probably.
It's all right guys, penniless player is just finished a match against control warrior, that's why he hasn't upload for a while
I felt this expansion like: OH NICE I GOT A LEGENDARY! Let'me see in which decks can I use it! Oh I just need 6 or more legendaries and some epics too... Ok so... I'll end this season at 10 T-T
Try opening 10 legendaries and only getting two that you wanted. Even after playing awhile, I still only like about half of them.
The hard truth is that we don't get to choose the legendaries we open. So if you happen to open most legendaries not from the half that you wanted, it's a #feelsbad moment.
Or you could stop bitching and just dust stuff. Ive been f2p for 5 years and have never been in a situation where I didnt have cards to dust for a new deck
thats why you play wild, overal cheaper(escpially once got staples) and if dont have specefic are lot more options for evrything and multiple good decks that cost less then a legendary(like mech hunter which only required legendary is teh free snipsnap)
and cards dont rotate youl always have acces to them, to play competive its lot cheaper in long for wild, and you need lot less per expansion to be competive(if you just want evry card possible ever ofc its gonna be more expensive then to get all standard cards atleast in short amount of time) but for competive its lot cheaper.
In my second uldum pack I opened Tekahn and I was really happy because I specifically wanted to play zoo. Then I found out zoo was bad and doesn't even run Tekahn... since then I've opened Anka, Colossus of the moon and Tinkmaster overspark :/
'Any type of Warlock deck'
You're implying there were any to survive in the first place.
I think another reason battlecry shaman is popular right now is that it has a relatively low cost.
Also evrybody has Shudderwock because it used to be OP a while ago
It's a power creep almost as large as Old gods.
Don't you dare compare the best expansion in HS to this shit
I figure the defined "optimal" decks became more expensive, I never was one to opt for a full decklist of anything as saying that the decks "required" those legendaries. I played Highlander Mage without owning a Yogg-box, Kalecgos, Siamat or Vulpera at the time. Had Ysera, Messenger Raven, Toki and put a Flakmage in. Then I reached Legend utilising my own Zoolock that doesn't have Soularium and Tekahn, and remember the hype around "needing" Rafaam for Zoolock in RoS? Disappointed that Zoolock has been put down so hard in this video even though it got plenty of powerful tools in Uldum with the EVIL Recruiter, Neferset Thrasher and Diseased Vulture. I used Quicksand Elemental, which I saw 0 people playing.
They definitely did reduce the trashiness of the worst epics and legendaries, meaning so many become useful, I can agree with that. Bloodsworn Mercenary being a key piece for Aggro Warrior, and Psychopomp for Priest, as well as the Tortollan Pilgrim for Mage, lots of good epics. Octosari and Colossus of the Moon both have their niche uses, which cannot be said for cards like Duskfallen Aviana or Harbinger Celestia.
This is why I put down my wallet and only watch hs vids anymore, also blizard lost toast gg
He's chasing the money LOL nothing wrong with Blizz
@@huyquang2197 Oh yeah nothing wrong with ActiBlizzard doing their fanbase wrong left and right, nope, nothing to see here.
Why did he quit?
@@deejayf69 he said HS was getting rather boring and he didn't like the blizzard mentality, after finding TfT he never did a HS video again
@@Olivia_Spring wow okay. What do you mean by Blizzard mentality?
Wait, he's right. We all have a Shudderwock.
I am SO GLAD to you posting again. Thank you for the return I had just about quit using RUclips for hearthstone related content.
Yes!! You're back!!!!
Finally!!!
I am just so happy to see you posting again, thanks for coming back man.
... *continues playing my death rattle warlock in the corner*
Nice deck bruh
Gotta decklist?
"Our *Fanbase* is as *Toxic* As Battery Acid"
Uniquenameosaurus: *sighs in a Corner*
YESSS Penniless uploaded! Please keep on making this great content!
"and that's why capitalism is ruining hearthstone"
I actually whole-heartedly agree with just about EVERYTHING in this video.
Thank you for your outspoken wisdom, brother
I thought it was just me feeling like something was up, glad to see that I ain't the only one and it's explained in a very good way!
I remember first noticing the "epic problem" in Hearthstone when The Grand Tournament released and they made Twilight Guardian, an incredibly simple and overpowered card that would be auto include in any dragon deck, an epic. Over time they have just done it more and more
I hated not owning that dragon
This is the experience what I felt when I started playing.
It was araund Gadgetzan and it felt like Blizzard said:"Hello we make this very good decks that need a lot of pieces. If you don't like them or can't get them you will SUCK."
Felt like the last card review left you shook. Good to see you back
Blizzard's greed is why I only ever play HS now against friends, where we can dick around with our bizarro decks and don't have to give a crap about the meta. It's comfy af and honestly the thought of queueing up into ladder makes me feel ill by comparison.
Looks like I gotta make some friends
Blizzard: What do you want?
Penniless: It's not that simple.
Bliz: WHAT DO YOU WANT?!
Penni: IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE.
I've thought this for a while but I think it's insulting that a pack only contains five cards. Maybe when it first came out that made sense but assembling decks across multiple expansion card pools is way too unforgiving. The game in general really needs to be more generous with resources to encourage people to keep playing.
Glad to see you back, penniless! I'd love to do some friendlies with you sometime, now that I have completed my classic collection. As for the meta analysis, I appreciate how honestly you've summerized it. I can agree with many of the statements you make here, good job.
I'm sorry but Corrupt the Waters is not bad prove me wrong
It's not bad, but if you're playing to win it has no reason to be so popular.
It's hard to play properly, but a good player can go far with it. There's a reason it's not good on ladder but GMs bring it to tournaments.
Reached top 500 Legend on EU using only Quest Shaman so yeah the deck is pretty good if played properly.The mistake most people do when playing the deck is that they use the Double Battlecry Hero power the whole time.
It is not too powerful, but so much fun to play and thats the important part of hearthstone
Us Shaman players have been PUT DOWN over and over again, when we see a semi-viable deck we play it!
The game pretty much shifted from "There are 3 decks to play" to "there are 8 decks to play but you can afford 2 of them"
Good to see you alive. And you seem to live up to your name pretty well.
Its good to see your not dead penniless
For everyone’s own benefit, just pause this video at 0:32 and go put on BOOM BOOM BOOM. I just put it on and listened twice, still amazing. Hey Penny, I want you in my room.
As someone who is also FTP and only plays mage, it's sad to see the top decks nerfed so quickly after years without any decent decks.
At least Casino Mage will always have a place in my heart. All hail Yogg!
Mage has the most fun deck in the game if you don't mind losing a lot. Quest mage
Do you think the inner fire combo is next on the chopping block, now that combo priest is very strong?
I hope so, whenever I see a priest all my focus goes into dealing with "Inner Fire", its at the point I don't see priest as priest its just the "Inner Fire" class to me and its kind of sad to see all these options and being like:
"Is this better then Inner Fire?"
Answer:
"No".
@@MasterofMistakes if priest didn't have inner fire it would be at the bottom with warlock again
Honestly, they should remove Inner Fire. But Priest needs help as it is with its base set. There's like two good cards.
@@Bigdaddy93413 combo priest has always been a thing it's just never been so reliable so quickly amet and pomp definitely should be nerfed instead
@@nileboy5055 Yeah it has always been a thing. But Priest just constantly falls back on it. It's not interesting and it's very limiting. I'd rather they replaced Inner Fire with something like Kabal Talonpriest, Sandhoof Waterbearer, or maybe even Penance. Base set Priest is desperate for some good cards. It has Northshire Cleric and Power Word:Shield. Admittedly these are two of the strongest cards in the game, but it's not enough. Inner Fire and Divine Spirit are only powerful together.
Penniless I listened intently throughout your elaborate explanation and I agree, buff Hunter. Welcome back buddy
Fuck you and fuck hunter
Best WR class in last 2 years
long time no see, my friend. Great to have you back.
It's strange
As a player, it's good to open an epic or legendary and know it will be played
But
It's also good to know if you want to build a deck, you only need 2-3 epics/legendaries
Reddit was worrying about you man. Glad you're alive and healthy
You'r right! Support this man, he deserves it
He’s back! We missed ya!
Dude the cost of solo adventures are fine, the content is where it's at
I'm penniless as well but i run highlander hunter, battlecry shaman, tempo rogue and Murloc Paladin. Because everything is balanced and fine. Just because you don't have a sufficient amount of legendaries doesn't mean you can complain. If you go for a set amount of decks each expansion, you can never go wrong.
I think a big issue with this meta is that it's extremely polarized. There's a good number of auto-concede matchups out there. Like Quest Paladin vs. Control Warrior: Quest Paladin has an 80% winrate in that matchup! It's ridiculous.
I think another big reason why Battlecry Shaman is so popular is because it's not very polarized; unlike, say, Control Warrior, Quest Shaman doesn't have any auto-concede matchups that you simply cannot win. So it's an ideal deck to climb with, since there's less risk of repeatedly running into bad matchups on the ladder.
You’ve been away for so long, I forgot that you existed. 😬 need to see more of you tbh.
Glad to see you back!
EEEEEEEEH YOU DONT KNOW HOW MUCH I WAS EXPECTATING THIS
Enrage Warrior deserves a mention.
Standart players: Mage is completely useless!
Wild players: Mage is fucking broken!
> Healthy meta
_laughs in 90k armor druid_
Isn't that only in wild?
its only in wild, and its a meme deck(like tier 4 or something) and can be ealsy killed before gets to that and then geist destroys the combo.
Also may we please get an explanation on rouge?
They managed to balance a meta so well it hurts f2p...well done and I thought I was going crazy with my collection and deck building. Glad to be reassured of this problem and hopefully we get some changes once the next set comes around.
I've just started the video, so I dunno what points will be brought up yet, but I really enjoy almost everything about this post-nerf meta. I say almost, because a very fast Divine Spirit Inner Fire Priest exists, and that's a deck archetype I've hated since Hearthstone's inception. I greatly enjoy playing my various builds of Quest Shaman, Quest Paladin and a few silly homebrews, and while I don't like to play the other big decks in the meta, all of them I find fun to play against, which is a nice thing. Pushing Highlander decks into repeated "have this answer right now or you're boned" situations, overwhelming Control Warriors with incremental advantages, picking apart Murloc boards, it's all good stuff.
I've now gotten to the end of the video, and I have to say that I do see the point of complaining about prices. It hasn't affected me at all personally, but that's because I've zero interest in playing Wild, ever, and simply strip-mine old sets for Dust as soon as they rotate - the only cards I have in my Wild collection are ones I can't disenchant, like Marin the Fox, and my one golden Azure Drake, who will remain there forever for dumb sentimental reasons, as it was a linchpin of so many of my decks before it got kicked out (card draw, spell power and dragon tribe hits so many of the archetypes I've enjoyed). As a result, I'm sitting on a dragon's hoard of something like 650,000 Dust.
That's why you play Wild where your deck will be relevant for years with a few new cards.
Honorable mention goes to Combo Priest for being a decently prominent aggro player in the meta. Popularity wise, I'd say that's the aggro deck to beat, not Murloc Paladin.
Please don't leave us again: (
I was wondering if you were still playing! Good to see you mate
Good forever. Welcome back
Good to see ya back Penniless!
Quest shaman is still kicking ass....
Welcome back friend
We were missing you :-)
great vid and so true im dusting so much to keep up wth the dam kardashians my collection so much smaller now.
HE POSTED YES I LOVE YOU SO MUCH PENNILESS
So, he's not dead. I was starting to wonder...
the legend was right, he's back
Was waiting for years omg!!!
Is quest Plot twist warlock good now?
We miss you
Yay! New video!
Welcome back
Bet that the 3rd expansion is gonna be cataclysm based
HE'S BACK PagChomp
HE IS BACK !!!! keep on the good work!
Warrior is almost ENTIRELY made to just kill your stuff, which is why it can control the game so easily. It’s no wonder that players hated it so much if it was control.
Opened a Colossus of the Moon from my 50 packs and ended up playing big decks the whole expansion. No regrets.
Huh. That is one of the ones I am thinking about dusting the most.
you are alive!
I completely agree. The only problem with this meta is how expensive it is!
I even started to play Mech Hunter on Wild to grind to Rank 5... xD
The penniless player: _"Later sets are the ones that have the most likely to have stronger cards, increasing the value of purchasing them"._
*Proceeds to buy tons of Rastakhan packs*
The Peniless Player: _"nvm it's worse than Un'Goro in terms of powercreep, LOL"._
Where do you get your stats?
I never thought the DR,boom nerf would do anything but mage didnt deserve two nerfs
He’s back people
super relatable. I pulled a zephrys and was super happy, but then realized I couldn't use him.
And that is why I try to make the 2 cards I got for free elice and untapped potential work in a deck. I'll find other legendaries eventually
HE'S BACK!!!
This is a fun and diverse meta, unless you're a warlock or rogue main, coincidentally, the 2 heroes I'm closest to having golden. :(
I main Warlock and I almost only play wild now
Yeeees! Finally you are Back!! I missed your vids!
This is why WhizBang is the only deck I run still, crafted in normal and golden depending on my mood. It's basically the equivalent of Making the game free to play, but It's now $15 a month to Build your own Deck Unless it's face-hunter and if you don't subscribe you get a random shit deck that craps on you for resisting Pavlovian training.
... Comrade Penniless
I don’t agree with the “corporate greed” section. It’s a by product of the “no duplicates” effect. Personally, I loved Reno meta and love no duplicate decks, love playing them and playing vs them. You see more interesting cards and have more interesting moments as more cards make lists that normally would never see play. I’ll take costing a bit more so long as the games a lot more fun (which it is).
Quest Shaman is popular because it's extremely cheap and very easy to make and play. it ain't that hard to see
Welp he back
I instantly liked the video, then got upset later when you made the healthcare joke because it meant I couldn't like the video a second time.
OMG YOU'RE BACK!!
HES back!
I used to pay for heartstone. But I cant afford to keep up anymore. I wish I could just buy it like a regular game and have access to all the cards.
mage : instead of 1 stupid combo i will do all the stupid combos
Quest shaman doesnt suck it's all over ladder, on my way to legend that's mostly what I played against, except for the combo preist every now and again.
your alive
2:17, no, Murloc paladin isn't awesome, it's the worst deck in the meta, it decided by weather or not you play prismatic lens on turn 4 and requires no skill to play.
No it's easy to clear even on turn 4, speaking as a Quest Hunter though. :D
but it's just murlocs. its a nice board,but either brawl or hellfire make the card useless. the tempo swing is only good because it has 2 of those+nomi,which means the around ~3 aoes control decks have are barely enough to defeat the swings,not the normal played minions.
@@leobastian_ Implying you can stay alive as a warlock agains't aggro in this meta.
Yeah no.
@@juliacabubatz you can. its not a top tier deck,but it's fun and it has a around 50 percent winrate.
@@leobastian_ You can mostly as a Zoolock perhaps, I've been playing Plot Twist Warlock with the Quest kind of a lot during the expansion, usually agains't murloc decks it's a miracly if you can stay alive on turn 7.