Saving un-dumped Super Nintendo & NES prototypes

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  • Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
  • Preserving Nintendo & Super Nintendo prototype games! Many of these games contain differences compared to the final, retail version. The owner will be releasing these via CodeBound. Games include Batman Returns, Super Star Wars, Star Wars Empire Strikes Back, Super Mad Champ, and more!
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  • @user-lt8cs3yk1n
    @user-lt8cs3yk1n 21 день назад +104

    too bad we'll never get to see the 7 hour long livestream of John and Tony trying to break open the wada case with their bare hands, would have been prime time entertainment

  • @TheFlyingJester
    @TheFlyingJester 21 день назад +50

    I absolutely want to see the sealed prototype cracked open, that would be 10/10

  • @brandogg
    @brandogg 21 день назад +28

    John lookin' like he's about to put some dinosaur Embryos in a can of Barbasol

  • @commonsensei8719
    @commonsensei8719 21 день назад +32

    3:25 Thats one spicy pixel character :))

  • @MrMegaManFan
    @MrMegaManFan 15 дней назад +6

    One of those most heartbreaking things I ever saw was someone doing a live stream where he went through boxes in an old programmer's attic, and he started pulling out NES and GameBoy prototypes with non-shielded EPROMS and (I kid you not) HOLDING THEM UP TO THE LIGHT TO SHOW THEM OFF. People were screaming at him in the chat to put masking tape over those EPROMS but he was too busy gloating to care.

  • @lwhite647
    @lwhite647 20 дней назад +30

    I’m glad that the new owner of the WATA sealed game wants to do the right thing and preserve it. We need more people like that in the community

    • @common_c3nts
      @common_c3nts 20 дней назад +1

      WATA means nothing. It does not matter to open it.

    • @RowbuttBatmin
      @RowbuttBatmin 20 дней назад

      It was the person who bought it from the hoarder and sent it along to this channel. The original hoarder gets no credit :)

    • @RowbuttBatmin
      @RowbuttBatmin 20 дней назад

      @@common_c3nts yeah we all know and agree WATA is worthless. The point is, it's a prototype of a beloved game that was going to be lost to history. It matters opening it, it matters dumping it.

    • @djnn22
      @djnn22 20 дней назад +1

      I will hope this is sarcasm and laugh at this joke!
      (WATA is a cancer in the gaming industry!)

    • @Gatorade69
      @Gatorade69 15 дней назад

      Did both of you guys fail English ? Your reading comprehension is awful. Re read what he said. If I was your English teacher you'd both be receiving F's.

  • @MrPine656
    @MrPine656 21 день назад +14

    Really wish you guys got more recognition. Your content's (usually) pretty interesting and it's baffling how some of this stuff hasn't exactly blown up

  • @JeffIndigo
    @JeffIndigo 21 день назад +7

    That dig on the "dragons" was great lol

  • @Tclans
    @Tclans 21 день назад +10

    That is a great cliffhanger!
    Looking forward to your next video on Empire.

  • @RetroJack
    @RetroJack 21 день назад +9

    WATA is evil - crack that case!

  • @jamesgillre
    @jamesgillre 20 дней назад +5

    The Scotland flag is wrong in World Class Soccer, not sure if it's like that in the final version lol

    • @Redhotsmasher
      @Redhotsmasher 19 дней назад

      6:16 And the cross on the Swedish flag has green outlines for some reason. And the Danish one has oranges ones. And the Swiss cross too. And the Canadian maple leaf looks more like a janky flower. Yeah, these flags look funny.

  • @prosfilaes
    @prosfilaes 20 дней назад +2

    The copyright symbol had some complex rules in US laws; they mostly ended in 1989, but prior to that, a "c 1988 Game Company" could be legally deficient and result in losing copyright that a proper copyright symbol could have protected.

  • @JS-oi5jt
    @JS-oi5jt 21 день назад +6

    Did you guys see that Doshin the Giant prototype that went on ebay a few weeks ago? Do yall know anything about that?

  • @BillyTheCat128
    @BillyTheCat128 20 дней назад +2

    These are amazing finds. And yeah, I don't get what the deal with collectors is, the whole idea of "losing money" by sharing the rom sounds weird to me. There are high quality scans of the Mona Lisa and there have been accurate reproductions of that famous painting, yet the OG Mona Lisa is still worth Millions of dollars. By their logic, the original painting should be 'completely worthless' now because a reproduction exists out there. Dumping a rom doesn't (or shouldn't) devalue the OG cartridge. So it's basically just a hoarder thing: "I have this and you don't! Har-har!"

  • @johntorn
    @johntorn 21 день назад +6

    “Crack that case” (Devo voice)

  • @Bakamoichigei
    @Bakamoichigei 20 дней назад +1

    2:15 I love those NCL official prototype cart labels. They look so swag.

  • @drgabi18
    @drgabi18 20 дней назад +1

    7:06 just love the uninterrupted sass for a straight minute

  • @kenh6096
    @kenh6096 21 день назад +4

    Cool, Love all the unreleased content. Never understood the Wata nuts but glad to see you are going to set a game free :)

  • @foxhack5011
    @foxhack5011 16 дней назад +1

    Huh. That Stargate cart has an Itochu branding, they were the company that distributed Nintendo products in Mexico - and were also involved with Club Nintendo Mexico (the national Nintendo magazine.) I wonder if this is the same build that was reviewed in one of their issues.

  • @SweetBean92
    @SweetBean92 21 день назад +3

    Y'all are the absolute best, I can't wait to see the broken case and what you extract from the cartridge

  • @michaelkenny6496
    @michaelkenny6496 20 дней назад +1

    Wooow i remember playing Super Battle Tank 2, Stargate, and Super Empire Strikes Back waaay back in 96, when my bros werent playing Zelda, Final Fantasy 6, Secret of Mana, or Mario RPG lol

  • @eduardopazhurtado3882
    @eduardopazhurtado3882 18 дней назад +1

    Film the whole thing, opening the WATA box and the dumping of the room, we want to see the whole process.

  • @jameson108
    @jameson108 21 день назад +3

    I can’t wait to see that wata box cracked open

  • @rashira9610
    @rashira9610 21 день назад +5

    Oh shit You guys know Snesei?
    Can't say I'm too shocked but that's pretty sweet. Met him at Maker's Faire over at the Henry Ford back in 2012. The entire performance by Piko Piko Detroit was pretty sweet but Snesei's set was by far my favorite, he even signed one of his CD's for me. Cool dude.
    Think I have his Mii in my old 3DS, they streetpassed IIRC. Gotta dig it out.

  • @professorpenne9962
    @professorpenne9962 21 день назад +2

    preserving history one cart at a time. you guys rock.

  • @jackofallgamesTV
    @jackofallgamesTV 15 дней назад +1

    That's not Stargate.
    Stargate is the sequel to Defender.
    That's Stargate: The Movie: The Game

  • @yama_yama_yama
    @yama_yama_yama 21 день назад +1

    Yes please. More videos for all the games, love seeing the comparisons.

  • @ZachAttackIsBack
    @ZachAttackIsBack 21 день назад +3

    Seems like most of the prototype games you find are pretty far along in development or basically finished. Were these cartridges ever used for development purposes or were they mainly just created to send out to reviewers shortly before release?

  • @nicholaszacharewicz693
    @nicholaszacharewicz693 20 дней назад

    Thanks for sharing about these prototypes. The next episode's going to be great!

  • @AMDRADEONRUBY
    @AMDRADEONRUBY 21 день назад +2

    Nice it's John and Tony time! I love undumped games thanks for saving them

  • @paulnewhouse5126
    @paulnewhouse5126 21 день назад +6

    Are we ever going to get any prototypes of Secret of mana?

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  21 день назад +18

      I'd love to. The supposed SNES CD version of Secret of Mana is one of my holy grails....

    • @2soulzkilluminati135
      @2soulzkilluminati135 21 день назад

      Based if found ​@@hard4games

    • @thardump859
      @thardump859 20 дней назад +1

      No.... The only prototypes we'll ever get are of shitty 3rd party shovelware garbage. Either that or prototypes of Sega games.

    • @2soulzkilluminati135
      @2soulzkilluminati135 20 дней назад

      @@thardump859 I have some rare unreleased RPG games but I don't want to share them because I hate humans

    • @2soulzkilluminati135
      @2soulzkilluminati135 20 дней назад

      @@thardump859 I even have a prototype of Pokémon red

  • @JasonBaker1978
    @JasonBaker1978 20 дней назад +1

    The idea of sealed games go's against the entire purpose of it being a game... TO BE PLAYED! Collectors like that anger me. Its not a show piece, play it or pass it along to someone else who will.

  • @djnn22
    @djnn22 20 дней назад +2

    I would love it so much that you check all the differences in the Stargate Game. Thank you

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  20 дней назад +2

      ☠️

    • @djnn22
      @djnn22 20 дней назад +1

      @@hard4games What?, I don't want to be the one suffering through this... I'd much prefer to watch your pain than experience it for myself! 🤣

  • @PedroSilvahf
    @PedroSilvahf 21 день назад

    There are a few videos with an earlier batman returns version with a different hud and probably a few changes

  • @toxy3580
    @toxy3580 12 дней назад +1

    Ah yes Worm the prequel to Worms

  • @Matteomax
    @Matteomax 20 дней назад +1

    Would be curious to know how much the Star Wars prototype wound up costing the buyer who sent it in..

  • @zerobyte802
    @zerobyte802 18 дней назад

    If hoarding unreleased carts/roms like a dragon were akin to being a Tolkien baddie, Chris Stamper is Morgoth. He dropped a vid on Twitter of himself booting up Twelve Tales Conker 64 on hardware. He's done that with other such titles.

  • @AJDPharmD
    @AJDPharmD 20 дней назад

    Wow, it's been a while since we've been blessed with John's presence!

  • @EyezOnMe
    @EyezOnMe 20 дней назад +1

    That Scotland flag was looking kinda weird in that fitba game 😅 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @zombizzle_
    @zombizzle_ 21 день назад

    Thank you sir that sent games.

  • @HEADRUSH444
    @HEADRUSH444 21 день назад

    John is bringing the 80s back!

  • @steveirvinejr1672
    @steveirvinejr1672 20 дней назад +1

    Only reason why should dumb em should be keep only for the owner

  • @darktetsuya
    @darktetsuya 21 день назад +3

    huh don't think I've heard of mad champ but sounds really interesting, basically anime road rash? and even if it's just star wars, hats off to freeing that one from its WATA prison to share with the rest of the gaming populace! I'm also disgusted at the ROM hoarder types, not gonna lie.

  • @CRXJDM88
    @CRXJDM88 18 дней назад

    Wow a prototype Star Wars game super nice

  • @thesogo64
    @thesogo64 21 день назад +1

    Best channel

  • @videostash413
    @videostash413 20 дней назад

    Tony from The Muppets, and John from The Office

  • @schimnesthaisbasement5015
    @schimnesthaisbasement5015 20 дней назад

    Don't waste your time cracking open a cold one yet, crack open a wata sealed game first, then the cold one will taste... colder, so better.

  • @Kwyjor
    @Kwyjor 20 дней назад

    Still holdin' out hope for Impossible Mission 2025.

  • @rainnaxil
    @rainnaxil 19 дней назад +1

    where this guys share the roms dump?

  • @JG24Billy
    @JG24Billy 20 дней назад

    Can't wait for Tony to play Stargate

  • @chadnault7481
    @chadnault7481 20 дней назад

    Damn, still no Ultimate Journey or Shogun Maeda.

  • @Lexterizando
    @Lexterizando 20 дней назад

    You are the heroes of the canceled lost games.

  • @kay_glo
    @kay_glo 2 дня назад

    Wow, yes

  • @CrankshaftRabbit9164
    @CrankshaftRabbit9164 21 день назад +1

    ...Why is it with these prototypes the chips are sticking out of the cartridge shell? O.o

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  20 дней назад +2

      They use sockets so the chips can be easily swapped. Sockets make it so they cannot fit in the original case.

  • @grafvinestarry
    @grafvinestarry 21 день назад

    The fridaynight is saved again

  • @nensondubois
    @nensondubois 20 дней назад

    Smashy smashy!

  • @snowyweather1
    @snowyweather1 19 дней назад +1

    Set the games free ! :)

  • @mushra50
    @mushra50 19 дней назад +1

    I doubt these guys are going to get their hands on the Nintendo 64 prototype of panel de pon because the guy who has it is being a stuck-up a****** with the cartridge and he refuses to dump it online even when people offered him money

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  19 дней назад +2

      That one's a long shot. 🥺

    • @mushra50
      @mushra50 19 дней назад +1

      @@hard4games I don't know why he's being so greedy with it he can easily make money if he let somebody rent the cartridge and upload the ROM on the internet cuz once that cartridge is destroyed that game is gone forever

  • @NickyClassicBackArchives
    @NickyClassicBackArchives 21 день назад

    cool

  • @melley420
    @melley420 21 день назад +1

    I really like the shirt of the cute guy on the right. Slay

  • @SjoerdvanGestel
    @SjoerdvanGestel 20 дней назад

    To destroy all rated games like that ✊🏻

  • @JomasterTheSecond
    @JomasterTheSecond 20 дней назад

    Systematic WATA destruction.

  • @wojiaobill
    @wojiaobill 20 дней назад

    "Theyre so hard!"
    for games? 😎

  • @BigMacOrange
    @BigMacOrange 21 день назад +1

    Im still hungry for bananas 🍌

  • @JoshuaEpperson69
    @JoshuaEpperson69 21 день назад +1

    What is the rarest nes prototype?

    • @PiroKUSS
      @PiroKUSS 21 день назад +4

      The one(s) we haven't found yet.

    • @lvl90dru1d
      @lvl90dru1d 21 день назад

      bio force ape?

    • @2soulzkilluminati135
      @2soulzkilluminati135 20 дней назад

      Magical kid indy

    • @2soulzkilluminati135
      @2soulzkilluminati135 20 дней назад

      What's the most interesting one for nes? Definitely not that game, for me it's another one, a Rpg game about gods which was in development but got cancelled because of multiple reasons one because the mechanic was "too complex to understand". I forgot the name though.
      And my most wanted cancelled RPG games are eternal chain and dragon's heaven

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  19 дней назад +3

      Pug of Destiny (NES, 1991).

  • @Mrshoujo
    @Mrshoujo 20 дней назад

    Dump & share the ROMs! As soon as you can.

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  19 дней назад +1

      The owner is gonna release via codebound.

  • @OM19_MO79
    @OM19_MO79 21 день назад +2

    -I’m better than you. I preserve games by buying physicals, I even have unreleased games with just one copy.
    -Really? How do you preserve them?
    -I encase them so they won’t ever be touched. Do that with digital!!
    -Well, I make back ups often, if my console breaks and the servers go down, all I need is a hack or an emulator to play again. What happens if those carts and discs break? Did you dump them so you can play them again? Did you even play or test them?
    -Why, no. But is preserved.
    -Sure. “Preserved”.

  • @aquelescaraaaaaaaaaa
    @aquelescaraaaaaaaaaa 15 дней назад +3

    you guys are heroes for breaking that fucking graded prototype open and dumping it. Fuck collectors.

  • @bondjovi4595
    @bondjovi4595 14 дней назад +1

    Torrent the rom. Make rom cartridges out of the prototypes. I don't care. Lol..

  • @willianderuberkater3526
    @willianderuberkater3526 19 дней назад

    So a friend of your Show sent you These Prototypes and you Even do Not SAY his Name?!? How greedy Are you??

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  19 дней назад +1

      His name is on-screen.

    • @willianderuberkater3526
      @willianderuberkater3526 19 дней назад

      @@hard4games thats Right. But you could also SAY his Name in Order of Respect for sending his Prototyps.

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  19 дней назад +2

      He retreated from the internet for a while. I didn't say it out of respect. As it turns out, he's okay now with us saying it, so i added the text. Why are you picking a fight over nothing? 🙃

    • @willianderuberkater3526
      @willianderuberkater3526 19 дней назад

      @@hard4games Oh, sorry. I didn't know that. I've often seen RUclipsrs who received great gifts from their viewers and then just listlessly display the username in the video

    • @krisc1684
      @krisc1684 18 дней назад +2

      ​@@willianderuberkater3526 i think you need to take a break from the Internet

  • @andresl6421
    @andresl6421 20 дней назад

    5:03 wow, this is interesting, ITOCHU was the official authorized dealer of nintendo in Mexico in the 90's until the early 2000s

  • @skRapKlan
    @skRapKlan 21 день назад

    Hahah you guys seem to love the modern hand-holding stuff... Might want to delve into more retro games before giving your opinion on whats "hard"...? Haha just saying... Awesome video tho, hope you will upload these ROMs to the web no matter if you think its the final version or not.. Small byte differences might mean more than you think..

  • @poyalt983
    @poyalt983 16 дней назад +1

    dump them

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  16 дней назад +3

      Absolutely! Will be released too!

  • @lukasrgl
    @lukasrgl 21 день назад +2

    1:20 Sorry Americans, but who got an ugly SNES a Megadrive that needed a new Name :)

  • @DrNoBrazil
    @DrNoBrazil 21 день назад

    Preserving is the new word for pirating...

    • @OM19_MO79
      @OM19_MO79 21 день назад +4

      No. They don’t make money by selling the copyrighted material. Piracy is piracy, sharing is not piracy.

  • @davidobert3325
    @davidobert3325 19 дней назад +1

    This was a great video till you guys started giving lip service to WATA. A slabbed cart from that business MEANS NOTHING! The whole section where you were trying to make it sound special just made you sound like clowns.

    • @hard4games
      @hard4games  18 дней назад +5

      Did you not realize we were insulting them? Did you not pick up on the sarcasm?