How to choose honey for making mead? 14 Different honeys and how to use them

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  • @sporkintheeye
    @sporkintheeye 2 года назад +21

    I might just add on wildflower: "Wildflower" from a grocery store is going to be a mix of multiple different honeys to try to obtain that basic neutral flavor. Wildflower from various localities may be HUGELY different. My summer wildflower is almost lemony and very flavor forward. And honey from 2 different yards 5 miles apart may be totally different in flavor yet... both are "wildflower" as they are non specific mixes of locally available flora.

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +2

      Good info. Time of the season can change them quite a bit too!

    • @sporkintheeye
      @sporkintheeye 2 года назад +3

      @@DointheMost Very much so. My spring honey is edible/sellable, but not awesome. Summer is where it's at. Fall is awful (but still makes decent mead.)

    • @lbdhoyte
      @lbdhoyte 2 года назад +2

      I second the wildflower honey, particularly local honey. For the past year, I have been making meads form local bee keepers around the Los Angeles basin. It has been amazing what just a 10 mile difference can make in the flavor profile of the honey.

    • @kahlilbt
      @kahlilbt 5 месяцев назад

      Sometimes that wildflower honey can be real funky!

    • @sporkintheeye
      @sporkintheeye 5 месяцев назад

      @@kahlilbt my fall honey is just kind of gross. But I've made mead from it that was pretty respectable.i guess it's like wine... It's not always made from grapes you want to snack on.

  • @dwadeweallin17
    @dwadeweallin17 2 года назад +8

    Going on flying bee ranch has me wanting to make a lot of traditionals. Radish, vetch, carrot, scotch broom. So unique! I also want to explore more honeydew honey. I have had some meads from Europe that have been made with that type of honey and are divine!

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +2

      And those prices aren’t too bad either! Definitely makes me wanna load up on some weird stuff.

    • @reneaclark7689
      @reneaclark7689 2 года назад +2

      I want to go to their store and try all the veritals. It is on my list for my next Oregon trip.

  • @benjamindaniels1273
    @benjamindaniels1273 2 года назад +5

    Carrot blossom is my favorite varietal by far. Depending on where it came from, it can have chocolate notes as well. Super amazing

  • @covenant11
    @covenant11 2 года назад +1

    buckwheat honey plus tart cherry equals awesome

  • @dwinterowd
    @dwinterowd 2 года назад +4

    Costco Business center had 5gallons of dutch gold bakers for $90. Taste was not very good originally but once it fermented out it was just as clean as wildflower. I used it in my no water peach and it was perfect.

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +2

      Now THAT is a good price! Dang.

    • @dwinterowd
      @dwinterowd 2 года назад

      @@DointheMost Im positive that I'll never ever get that price again haha.

  • @theastronomer5800
    @theastronomer5800 2 года назад +3

    My fav mead by far is a buckwheat traditional - I feel like I'm drinking a serious mead when I have that! Interesting tip to use buckwheat for the red pyment, I did not think of that and I'm planning on making one soon.

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +2

      We used it in our merlot pyment. So indulgent!

  • @strandpts
    @strandpts 2 года назад +1

    Here in Wisconsin we also get goldenrod honey in late fall. I really like the darker intensity but still floral flavor.

  • @yourmetalgod69
    @yourmetalgod69 2 года назад +2

    I just got 1 pound of mad honey from tibet it is from last years harvest but is un-diluted. it is hands down the most expensive honey or food I have ever bought($135/1.1# shipped). and as for the effects... yep they are there haha. it has very deep floral flavor I wasn't expecting it is also very sweet tasting. I have a whole host of honeys from Hawaii and so far macadamia and tangerine blossom are my favorites. I like the blackberry blossom honey I have as well. linden is an amazing honey. pine honey is different, forest honey is also very deep and earthy. I have blueberry as well. and am looking to get a few more honey's this year to try.

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +1

      I’ve heard interesting things about that honey. Might have to try some!

  • @Funpants94
    @Funpants94 2 года назад +3

    Radish blossom is one I'd highly recommend trying if you get the chance.

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +1

      I’ll add it to my wants list! What’s it taste like?

    • @Funpants94
      @Funpants94 2 года назад

      @@DointheMost I'll give you a more detailed update when I get home and give my taste buds a reminder. From what I recall it has a certain radish-y flair or spice note with some vanilla or marshmallow on the finish.

    • @AKAtorcha
      @AKAtorcha 2 года назад

      I used it a long time ago for one of my first meads, I remember it as being light and crisp.

  • @xRASTAxXxLIONx
    @xRASTAxXxLIONx 2 года назад +2

    I developed a Chai Cherry mead recipe using buckwheat and it is one of my best meads by far. It is a bit odd getting that hay/grassy note, but is kind of addicting. The chocolate notes really bring a lot to the cherries.

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад

      I love buckwheat with red fruit. So much depth of flavor!

    • @stephenclifford3971
      @stephenclifford3971 2 года назад

      @@DointheMost I have a local meadery that has a buckwheat traditional on the menu! Straight up buckwheat. Nose was very pleasant and the palate was exactly what we come to know and love!

  • @Anienem
    @Anienem 2 года назад +1

    Pumpkin blossom honey is also excellent! I haven’t made a mead with it yet, but the raw honey tastes almost creamy and vanilla-y.

  • @mkmead2006
    @mkmead2006 2 года назад +1

    The BJCP has a good honey guide I would recommend people read. My personal local favorite is Michigan Star Thistle. Another fun one is s basswood honey, it has minty notes to it.

    • @SlurpeeDude429
      @SlurpeeDude429 2 года назад

      Where I’ve been getting my honey in Oregon there’s a Vetch honey which has similar menthol notes but is also quite fruity, I’d be interested to see how it compares to basswood.

  • @annathiika5755
    @annathiika5755 2 года назад

    Hot tip if you live in the midwest and want to get your hands on some really choice but reasonable wildflower honey, check marketplace on facebook, yes I know Facebook is a cursed realm, but here in rural MN I get 5 gallons of delicious ambrosia from a local beekeeper for 200$ a bucket ($3.33/pound). It’s fantastic, versatile honey that supports a local keeper’s passion that also supports your local food cycle. If you can swing it, a local beekeeper is always the way to go for your everyday honey and I got to learn a little extra about the honey just from chatting with the fellow as he pulled the buckets from his shed 😁

  • @driven61vw
    @driven61vw 2 года назад

    I recently made a Traditional with heather honey (and 1/2 oz of dried heather tips) - this was easily the best mead I've ever made. I came out like a honey forward medium sherry. I'm down to my last two bottles, so time to make some more!
    I've also just bottled a Chouchen. Very labour intensive, as you have to make a cider first and then re-ferment it with Buckwheat honey, but it came out really well - if apples and molasses had a love child, chouchen would be it. Well worth a try.
    Any thanks for all the advice in your videos, it's been so helpful over the last few months.

  • @riukrobu
    @riukrobu 2 года назад

    Beautiful, thorough, captivating dissertation, BC!
    Honeydew honey is also another interesting category.

  • @DominatorS89
    @DominatorS89 2 года назад

    So interesting! I'm new to brewing but do far the honey varieties are very different here in Australia. The cheapest store honey is pretty much the same price as the top raw stuff, directly through beekeepers or honey suppliers.
    I've only found one place (online) that sells orange blossom honey so far, and never seen wildflower or clover for sale. Common varieties here are macadamia, tea tree, ironbark, brush box, and 'bush' local honey, which I guess is similar to wildflower.
    Have you ever tried leatherwood honey? It's from a specific area in Tasmania and has a very strong unique flavour.

  • @Dogstickfetch
    @Dogstickfetch 2 года назад +1

    thank you for assembling all of this great information for us!!

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад

      Thank you for your help, friend!

  • @kieranworkk7129
    @kieranworkk7129 11 месяцев назад

    Recently tried a cyser with cinnamon infused honey, worked very well

  • @reneaclark7689
    @reneaclark7689 2 года назад

    Raspberry blossom honey a favorite of mine, it has a juicy floral flavor. Christmas berry blossom is really good fermented it leaves a nice peppery note along with a floral fruit. It gives nice depth to fruited session meads. Mango is really bright and pleasant, it makes a nice crispy hydromel.
    ETA: Fireweed honey. If you can get it do!

  • @HisVirusness
    @HisVirusness 2 года назад

    I've had some success with mixing honeys. Brings very interesting results.

  • @Brandon-jw5cv
    @Brandon-jw5cv 2 года назад +2

    One big one I would experiment with would be Fireweed honey. It is huge and ubiquitous in the Pacific Northwest and Alaska. I've never used it in mead, but it bet it would be great and a large portion of the population would have easy access to it.

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +2

      I have eyeballed fireweed so many times. Maybe time to pick some up!

    • @reneaclark7689
      @reneaclark7689 2 года назад +1

      Fireweed is amazing. I used it in a semi sweet fireweed traditional session mead and won second place in a local competition. I live in Washington, I am happy that I can buy it locally.
      If you can get some, do. :)

  • @sparkytl4488
    @sparkytl4488 2 года назад

    I think you should definitely do some things and research with Black Forest Honey!

  • @marknordlund22
    @marknordlund22 2 года назад +1

    A good guide and recognize some of these but haven’t tried most. I found a supplier in Hawaii I get most honey from. I love the Christmas Blossom and Macadamia Blossom honeys. A lot of them are fruity though the Fire Blossom(Christmas) has those fall like spice notes too it.
    My favorite local honey to VA is Sourwood. Makes such a wonderful, layered traditional.

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад

      AT&S? They have some great honey and even greater sales!

    • @marknordlund22
      @marknordlund22 2 года назад

      @@DointheMost I ordered from them and price was good. I found that Shawn Darryl Harris at Wao Kele Farm is better in my opinion.

  • @buffalojoe78
    @buffalojoe78 2 года назад

    I’ve been using Holdman Honey here in San Antonio and they have different counties that they have hives in. The biggest bloomers here are composite flowers like coreopsis and sunflowers, bee balms and mesquite, huisache and guajillo. That being said H-E-B sells straight Mesquite Honey and Desert Honey which is very dark. Our citrus trees were decimated by the February ‘21 Snowpocalypse so no Orange blossom lately.

  • @The8404corpsman
    @The8404corpsman 2 года назад +1

    I used nothing but buckwheat with spices and dried fruit and it's amazing

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +1

      Sounds rich! What spices?

    • @The8404corpsman
      @The8404corpsman 2 года назад

      @@DointheMost your typical Christmas spices

  • @iondemon
    @iondemon 2 года назад +1

    Iv got to try cranberry honey, it sounds really interesting. Closest thing iv got to a berry type honey is a snowberry honey, but it’s flavor is really delicate and cant make a melomel with it. But I did recently manage to grab 1 1/2 gallons of sourwood honey iv been thinking of using for a semi dry traditional.

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +1

      I love sourwood honey, it’s so sappy and unusual. I’ve done a crispy hydromel with it and the woody notes came out really well.

  • @javierchirinos28
    @javierchirinos28 2 года назад +1

    I would say this is a great guide in what to expect from honey but you should also taste the honey before fermentation to get a sense of what will be the final product

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +1

      Absolutely agree! With new (to me) honeys I like to save a little bit so I can sample when my traditional with it is done.

    • @javierchirinos28
      @javierchirinos28 2 года назад +1

      Also honey can vary from year to year and you won't get the same flavors from different harvests

  • @benjamindaniels1273
    @benjamindaniels1273 2 года назад

    Christmas berry blossom is another one that's absolutely fantastic

  • @carternoble6469
    @carternoble6469 2 года назад

    This video is awesome. I was just looking yesterday for different types of honey to try out. Couldn’t have come out at a better time!

  • @robrainwater8017
    @robrainwater8017 2 года назад +3

    We dearly loved our mead we christened “buckn’ the blue with maple too”. A buckwheat/blueberry melomel with some thyme and back sweetened with maple syrup. Turned out as a fantastic mead.

  • @larryreaux1970
    @larryreaux1970 2 года назад +1

    Avocado and eucalyptus are two interesting ones I’ve tried recently.

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +1

      I need to brew with eucalyptus sometime. I’ve tried it, but not fermented.

  • @AKAtorcha
    @AKAtorcha 2 года назад

    I am working on a brew with chestnut honey.

  • @MAGACOPP
    @MAGACOPP 2 года назад

    Knotweed is great.
    It is in the Buckwheat family.
    It reminds me of Dopplebock.

  • @kevinbane3588
    @kevinbane3588 2 года назад +1

    Our local wildflower Honey cost more than the prices that you warned about, however it is well worth the price. It comes from Chimney Rock, NC where Dirty Dancing and Last of the Mohicans was filmed.

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +1

      That’s cool as hell. What’s the flavor profile on it?

    • @kevinbane3588
      @kevinbane3588 2 года назад

      It is very floral, with a richness much like oak, yet some hints of citrus as well. I’m not exactly sure where the citrus notes come from, but they are very present. The floral nature is like elderberries, honeysuckle, and dandelion. Quite nice. I will get you the address if you like.

    • @klaviary
      @klaviary 2 месяца назад

      @@DointheMostmore likely sourwood type. But real raw honey is $13-$15/pound. Store bought is diluted honey and not raw and cannot be used for mead

  • @FunkyFyreMunky
    @FunkyFyreMunky 2 года назад +3

    There's really interesting pine/fir-tree honeys produced in the Eastern Mediterranean (Greece/Turkey/Balkans area) that's made in dense woodlands. Slightly woody, slightly spiced, kind of reminiscent of pine/fir sap. It turned out really nice when dry and flavoured with a hint of juniper and lemon. It's expensive (works out over $10/lb where I am), so I may try it in a pyment. That way the grapes can do half the work.

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +2

      OK that sounds hella good. I wonder if I can find that somewhere online.

    • @theastronomer5800
      @theastronomer5800 2 года назад +1

      @@DointheMost I don't know where you live, but European deli stores usually sell this kind of a honey (usually called forest honey). It's the only mead that I didn't like - a bit too much like pine cough syrup to me.

    • @FunkyFyreMunky
      @FunkyFyreMunky 2 года назад

      @@theastronomer5800 Yeah, I went half and half with a neutral honey, mostly because I'm cheap, but it does have a slight medicinal taste.

  • @CaveMan72
    @CaveMan72 2 года назад +1

    Used cranberry honey in an acergyln recently. Time will tell how it turns out

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад

      Definitely curious how that turns out. 🍻

  • @FrmRNB2Faith
    @FrmRNB2Faith 2 года назад

    Perfect thank you so much

  • @chaserevstuning9271
    @chaserevstuning9271 2 года назад

    Forgot about black berry blossom honey and apple blossom honey. Apple is lot harder to come by sadly but tastes amazing.

  • @stonerainproductions
    @stonerainproductions Год назад

    I'm thinking about making a mocha caramel mead with cold brew coffee, bocheted honey possibly meadowfoam for the cream taste in coffee. Do you think bakers honey for bochet and meadowfoam for the rest could hit the flavor profile?

  • @TheGamingLegendsOfficial
    @TheGamingLegendsOfficial 2 года назад

    Any thoughts on sourwood honey? I've got a batch going right now of that. I'm waiting for it to finish primary so I can rack and age it.

  • @WolfDragonTamer
    @WolfDragonTamer 5 месяцев назад

    Any thoughts on Manuka honey?

  • @joesinatrajr4228
    @joesinatrajr4228 Год назад

    I'm still new at brewing I've made a handful of meads and fruit wines, currently experimenting with a cacao honey was delicious on its own we'll see how it ferments out just wondering if anyone else has tried this?

  • @94Vape
    @94Vape 2 года назад +1

    Ever heard of or tried leatherwood honey?

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад

      Heard of yes. Tried, no. How is it?

    • @llamamonster3973
      @llamamonster3973 2 года назад

      I just had some delivered this week. It has a pretty intense floral taste with a hint of citrus.

  • @osutuba
    @osutuba 2 года назад

    Have you been able to find/try apple blossom or cherry blossom honey? Just curious ....

  • @suferick778
    @suferick778 2 года назад +1

    I'm quite intrigued by oak blossom honey - tastes richer than any honey I've ever come across. Has anyone made a mead with it?

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад

      I haven’t tried it. Sounds fascinating!

  • @dfitzger
    @dfitzger 2 года назад

    Well as someone that was looking for local honey recently, I'm not feeling as good about buying 3 pounds of wildflower honey for 28 dollarydoos. Is that expected to pay a higher price when buying from a beekeeper, or did I pay too much for that? I guess I expected to pay more for local honey direct from a beekeeper since that quality was higher, but almost double the price is making me question that. Thanks for the great content!

  • @RushofBlood52
    @RushofBlood52 2 года назад

    Any experience with bamboo honey? I've seen a few around me that sell it. It's a little bit pricier and apparently not actual bamboo. Not a ton of info online but I wanna try it with a braggot since it's apparently not unlike buckwheat except with a lighter color.

    • @AKAtorcha
      @AKAtorcha 2 года назад +1

      It is also called red bamboo, Japanese bamboo or knotweed. My local apiary (New England) has it. It does have a pretty strong flavor, I've used it for spice heavy meads.

  • @jasonlayman8817
    @jasonlayman8817 2 года назад +1

    Great video BC.

  • @dswade59
    @dswade59 2 года назад

    Alfalfa is ways my default when making a traditional or trying something new. I'd be curious to try eucalyptus honey

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад

      Alfalfa is near the top of my favorites. I also need to brew with eucalyptus at some point!

    • @dswade59
      @dswade59 2 года назад

      @@DointheMost I did an awesome carbonated Earl grey hydromel with alfalfa. Probably my favorite one so far.

  • @julietardos5044
    @julietardos5044 2 года назад

    There's a local beekeeper who has hives all over the county. The honeys taste and look very different from each other.
    Also, now I'm kicking myself because I saw meadowfoam honey yesterday and didn't buy it.

  • @Johnny76624
    @Johnny76624 Год назад

    Acacia honey?

  • @KStrong777
    @KStrong777 Месяц назад

    What are your thoughts on hot honey?

  • @vance7354
    @vance7354 2 года назад

    After a Ton of digging and a couple phone calls, I found out that Pure and Simple brand honey is Clover Honey.

  • @brendanbuxton9848
    @brendanbuxton9848 2 года назад +1

    I’ve seen Star Thistle honey online on sale before but never taken the plunge. Anyone ever brew anything with it enough to have a good grasp of it’s character? 🤔

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад

      I’ve come close to buying a pail of it. I’ve only heard good things!

  • @ausbjmcd
    @ausbjmcd 2 года назад

    Awesome, now i just need some to do Australian honey's, like how the hell do i work with yellow box, blue gum or red gum. If anyone has a list like that please let me know

    • @kiwiprouddavids724
      @kiwiprouddavids724 2 года назад

      Try NZ manuka honey,it's amazing stuff just make sure it hasn't been processed or come via China, China fakes and adulterates NZ manuka honey stealing from NZ and it's people stuffing up our markets and driving prices down and heaps of other crap so yeah please try our NZ manuka honey it's got heaps of antioxidants and good stuff in it .

  • @hermanvanzyl4872
    @hermanvanzyl4872 2 года назад

    South African "fynbos" Honey. I tried so many times, you cannot make a drinkable mead with it

  • @johno7617
    @johno7617 2 года назад

    Off topic but what is your origin story (if you want to divulge)? Id love to see a video of behind the scenes. Does your family brew? It seems like you studied science?

  • @johno7617
    @johno7617 2 года назад +2

    Support your local apiary or honey guy. All i use are local ones- wildflower or some single flower varieties

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +1

      Absolutely! Unfortunately in Oklahoma that always means wildflower honey. I can’t get orange blossom or buckwheat locally here.

    • @johno7617
      @johno7617 2 года назад +1

      @@DointheMost yes me to in MA but it works for me. I understand if people want more variety. I do session meads mostly with local fruits and herbs and i dont know if the honey makes a huge difference at a pound a gallon (4-5% abv)

    • @johno7617
      @johno7617 2 года назад +1

      @@DointheMost its great to hear about all the different honeys. Great video

    • @kiwiprouddavids724
      @kiwiprouddavids724 2 года назад

      Please if you buy NZ manuka honey be careful, China fakes and adulterates NZ manuka honey flooding markets with nock off crap , stuffing up our markets and reputation and stealing from NZ and it's people. But manuka honey is great stuff if you can get it,I'm lucky there's a honey man who keeps his hives up at the auntie's farm so she gets a box of 12 jars every year. manuka honey has lots of antioxidants and good stuff in it and it's rich as.....if you can get the stuff not screwed with by china

  • @CaveMan72
    @CaveMan72 2 года назад +1

    You missed basswood and tulip poplar

    • @DointheMost
      @DointheMost  2 года назад +1

      These are both honeys I’m itching to try!

    • @CaveMan72
      @CaveMan72 2 года назад

      @@DointheMost I use both with a cinnamon honey in a blueberry mead. One is funky, one is sweet and sharp but cool, I hope you try them both in a brew soon

  • @earlhaines8797
    @earlhaines8797 2 года назад

    Manuka honey?

  • @mad_spook
    @mad_spook 2 года назад

    What, no sunflower honey?

  • @Ellerard
    @Ellerard 2 года назад +1

    I personally prefer to hit my local farmers market and purchase my honey directly from local apiarists! And they cut me a deal if I buy it by the gallon.

  • @tim-tim-timmy6571
    @tim-tim-timmy6571 2 года назад

    The honey I would not recommend: rapeseed honey.
    Doesn't taste much, crystallizes instantly as soon as you get it out of the combs. The small flavours that were present are completely gone after fermentation. 0/10.
    Unfortunately, that's all you can get from local producers here in Sweden. Never found anything else besides wildflower honey. The irony is that 17% of the country (yes you read it right!) is covered by blueberry bushes. I would pay good money for that but I just cannot find anything else.

  • @baghdaddy202003
    @baghdaddy202003 2 года назад

    Selling wildflower honey at 3 or 4 dollars a pound would take 2 to 3 years to break even on each individual hive if I put no value on my time. Local raw wildflower honey should sell no less than 12 dollars a pound. There's fellow bee keepers by me that make 15 to 18 dollars a pound. Undercutting bee keepers sell at 10 bucks

  • @TipsyCHUBBZ
    @TipsyCHUBBZ 2 года назад

    You’re a wildcard honey lol. Thanks

  • @klaviary
    @klaviary 2 месяца назад

    $3 a pound for local good honey? Yikes!