The Shocking Case of New York’s Hated Socialite | Ann Woodward

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  • Опубликовано: 14 янв 2025

Комментарии • 158

  • @mrsbluesky8415
    @mrsbluesky8415 6 дней назад +89

    I feel very sorry for her kids who I think suffered the most.

  • @maryrowe3981
    @maryrowe3981 6 дней назад +46

    What a sad, sad tale. Thank you for showcasing these “forgotten” lives!

  • @sherrybirchall8677
    @sherrybirchall8677 6 дней назад +51

    I don't think you ought to say that Capote's writings were revelations. More like malicious gossip, which resulted in several deaths.

    • @NinjaGrrrl7734
      @NinjaGrrrl7734 2 дня назад +1

      I'd say both are true. No one was innocent here, including Anne.

  • @ronque23
    @ronque23 6 дней назад +57

    Interesting story. Very tragic that she and both her sons killed themselves. What grief they must have suffered. She realized a lot of her dreams from such humble beginnings but the fast life and the scandal swallowed her up. RIP to them all.

    • @cmaden78
      @cmaden78 5 дней назад +1

      Pittsburgh middle class is " humble beginnings"?!? Wow, really? Is the air thinner up there😂

    • @EllanDay-hz2ib
      @EllanDay-hz2ib 5 дней назад

      Truman Copote was a vile evil gay man who would pull any body down to his sort of lowlife that he lived !

    • @deaw87
      @deaw87 9 часов назад +1

      @@cmaden78 Pittsburgh, KANSAS

  • @moonlightdancer5495
    @moonlightdancer5495 6 дней назад +60

    I remember watching this on an episode on A Crime to Remember..I kinda felt sorry for her. Her mother-law was a monster

    • @baylorsailor
      @baylorsailor 6 дней назад

      She was still in the wrong. He wasn't attacking her. She waited until he was vulnerable, then killed him. Most likely fueled by alcohol. It's not like divorce wasn't on the table in 1955.

    • @wiseoldowl7625
      @wiseoldowl7625 5 дней назад +6

      No one who knew her would agree with you. Ann's mother was mentally ill. Ann's younger brother burned to death in a fire, traumatizing them
      Ann was unstable as well, and took a plethora of prescription medications. How ridiculous to blame her highly respected Mother in Law.

    • @1898time
      @1898time День назад

      That doesn’t automatically make her a killer. Her mother in law didn’t respect her own son’s choice of wife. It would freak me out hearing someone trying to break into my home in the dead of night. Mother in law sounds a nasty piece of s hit.

    • @valeriewoods6882
      @valeriewoods6882 19 часов назад

      Ann blew her husband apart with a shotgun, but the MIL is the monster? Gold diggers, man.

  • @TinaBiebe
    @TinaBiebe 4 дня назад +22

    When I heard Ann’s name, the first thing I thought was that I was sure she was one of Capote’s Swans and sure enough. I recently finished an audiobook on all the Swans and I finished it gaining more insight into these ladies like Ann, but also what a despicable vile nasty person Capote was, seemingly basking in their glow like some fort of parasite. I’ll not deny his talent, but for the women who thought themselves close friends, he betrayed their confidences with what we got of that story if his. And Ann barely knew him according to your report and he still managed to leave carnage. I feel bad for Ann and her sons, and I’ve lost a lot of respect I had for Capote, whom I used to see on Johnny Carson when I was growing up. Thank you for highlighting Ann, and subtly showing what a vicious person Capote could be.

    • @ItsJustLisa
      @ItsJustLisa 3 дня назад +2

      He definitely was a talented writer. But clearly lacking in the humanity department.

  • @TH-hy9kr
    @TH-hy9kr 6 дней назад +25

    Thank you for your consistently well done videos. They are fascinating.

  • @phineas117
    @phineas117 6 дней назад +18

    poor woman. on the outside she had everything. Looks, money, kids , marriage. and really she had nothing. poor soul. poor kids. rest in peace, all of them. and T. Capote, what a piece of work HE was. great as always, FL.

  • @ruthm.6071
    @ruthm.6071 День назад +3

    What an incredible real life story! You have told it very well (and with impartiality) . The photos are excellent in illustrating the scenes.
    I can't believe that I never heard of this case. I was born exactly a year after that shooting, so I guess that by the time I could read, it was no longer newsworthy.
    Thank you for presenting another amazing story that has been forgotten.
    Well done!!

  • @heatherrounds6550
    @heatherrounds6550 6 дней назад +19

    Thanks for telling her story. This was better than watching her story on Feud: Capote vs The Swans.

  • @ABeautfulMess
    @ABeautfulMess 6 дней назад +67

    Capote was a great writer but a real jerk

    • @thisismyname3928
      @thisismyname3928 6 дней назад +4

      And light in the floafers.

    • @zero_bs_tolerance8646
      @zero_bs_tolerance8646 6 дней назад +10

      @@thisismyname3928 How astute of you to point that out.

    • @thisismyname3928
      @thisismyname3928 6 дней назад

      @@zero_bs_tolerance8646 And you as well!

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly 6 дней назад +7

      @@thisismyname3928really!!!! God,I never knew that (sarcasm)

    • @thisismyname3928
      @thisismyname3928 6 дней назад

      @@CashelOConnolly Alphabets coming out in force (if you have to write it it defeats the purpose, ninny)

  • @hrefna1606
    @hrefna1606 3 дня назад +6

    What an unpleasant, spiteful, vicious creature Capote was. There was absolutely no reason for him to write his poisonous filth, other than self aggrandisement and feathering his nest. He was utterly vile

  • @Lionesse-z41553
    @Lionesse-z41553 6 дней назад +17

    This was really good!

  • @Mattostar-z2d
    @Mattostar-z2d 6 дней назад +11

    Hello Forgotten Lives. It's lovely having another spectacular upload from your channel. Something to look forward to every time I come around to watch. 😊

    • @ForgottenLives
      @ForgottenLives  4 дня назад +1

      Thank you so much as usual Matteo! Have a great weekend :)

    • @Mattostar-z2d
      @Mattostar-z2d 4 дня назад

      @ForgottenLives You're welcome Forgotten Lives. It's my work week, I won't be off until next Thursday morning. Have a fantastic weekend yourself. 🙂

  • @DianeC.
    @DianeC. 6 дней назад +14

    Hello!!! Thanks for this story. Guess you could say money can't buy you Happiness...Nice Video !!!...Your fan&friend from USA...🇺🇸🦋

  • @llngprc5411
    @llngprc5411 День назад +1

    Wow. So interesting. The interconnection between the high socials is mind boggling

  • @jomitchell2623
    @jomitchell2623 6 дней назад +29

    How sad did the boys committed suicide. Did it have anything to do with that hateful grandmother of theirs?

    • @Angie-v4r
      @Angie-v4r 5 дней назад +2

      The ruin of their mother by Capote may have played a part, but then again, maybe not.

    • @daniakalaina
      @daniakalaina 2 дня назад

      Probably the whole family

  • @annamariecooper1798
    @annamariecooper1798 6 дней назад +14

    Was not expecting my hometown. Woah

  • @vialogan
    @vialogan День назад +1

    A perfect example of the timeworn axiom stating money cannot buy happiness. Often, those who appear to have everything experience the deepest struggles. In some ways, we're seeing this play out in the current social "cancelling" of celebrity culture as many revolt against the idolatry of entertainers and influencers. Stars - they're just like us, yes? What a tragic tale forever affecting so many lives in just seconds. Thank you for telling a story I've never heard, and telling it well.

  • @BTScriviner
    @BTScriviner 6 дней назад +63

    Dominick Dunne's novel, "The Two Mrs. Grenvilles " is a ro​man ​à ​clef of the Woodward case. It was made into a miniseries starring Ann Margaret. (Fixed typo,)

    • @Moonie804
      @Moonie804 6 дней назад +6

      I read that book many years ago. A fascinating read, but at the time I didn't know it was inspired by a true story, I learned it only recently... a fascinating book for a tragic story.

    • @cathypayne2900
      @cathypayne2900 5 дней назад +2

      That’s how I first heard of it, as well.

    • @azabujuban-hito-dake
      @azabujuban-hito-dake 5 дней назад +1

      Grenvilles, not Greenvilles.

    • @secretwatcher9922
      @secretwatcher9922 5 дней назад +6

      I didn't know that I must watch it again as I saw it when it first came out & loved it. It's a shame they don't make mini series anymore, they were some of the best story type productions ever made. So many of them out did any A list movie ever released.

    • @BTScriviner
      @BTScriviner 4 дня назад

      @azabujuban-hito-dake Ah, yes, you're right. My fat fingers typed rwo "e"s.

  • @Linda-pw8gx
    @Linda-pw8gx 6 дней назад +12

    If you marry for money, you pay for it.

  • @jujube1382
    @jujube1382 6 дней назад +26

    Capote seems like a toad/troll of a man, considering his infatuation with killers, (ex: In Cold Blood), this story is disheartening to hear about. He was a gossip monger, who from what I've read and watched about him, just slithered into people's lives as a "friend", and turn around to make sesationalized tee- hee, ha-ha statements, editorials, or books about "fictional characters". Sorry about my rant, but your channel is brilliant!!!

    • @peggypasson8794
      @peggypasson8794 6 дней назад +3

      It's said he was the person dill on to kill a mockingbird came from .....him an her where friends when they where young .

    • @Bambisgf77
      @Bambisgf77 5 дней назад +5

      I couldn’t agree more! Such a toad! I can’t understand what people see in him.

  • @Charlotte66666
    @Charlotte66666 6 дней назад +5

    Going to listen as I fall asleep, thank you for more wonderful content ❤

  • @kslinaz5668
    @kslinaz5668 6 дней назад +6

    It's always a good show. People are so interesting.❤🎉

  • @PaleMagnolia
    @PaleMagnolia 4 дня назад +7

    I could see it going both ways - being an accident or a murder - given Ann was a heavy drinker and addicted to prescription drugs. On the night of the incident she could have been drunk and confused, and though shooting a shadow in the hallway (that could easily have been a family member or a maid) was the most reasonable thing to do. Or she and William could have been fighting and she shot him in a drunken rage, later realizing what she had done and using the string of burglaries as an excuse.
    I'm also not 100% convinced the man who confessed to being in the house the night of the murder was actually telling the truth: maybe he was just looking for his 15 minutes of fame, or maybe he thought he could put his hands on some easy money from the Woodwards by confirming Ann's story. False confessions are not uncommon when talking about famous cases.

    • @Zaft_K
      @Zaft_K 2 дня назад +1

      According to the evidence, the rifle contained shot that would normally not kill a human. Hitting the husband in the temple seems like a freak accident that would be very hard to do deliberately. Would she have even known that was the way to kill him? It sounds implausible that killing him was a deliberate act. I think the jury's verdict was correct - a tragic accident.

  • @AnnacolleenEtters
    @AnnacolleenEtters 5 дней назад +7

    It's usually children who suffer the most, through the turmoil of parents. I'm not sure who the mother in law was, before her own marriage, if she came from wealth, or what kind of mother she was, but when someone is generally nasty to another, my sentiment is, "it takes one to know one".

    • @TawnyC_
      @TawnyC_ 5 дней назад +2

      Yes, Billy's mother came from wealth. She was one of the Cryder triplets.

  • @AntonieMagdalena
    @AntonieMagdalena 6 дней назад +8

    How beautiful she was, kind of Marilyn Monroe. Thank you for telling about her! ❤

  • @bookmarker7471
    @bookmarker7471 6 дней назад +16

    Just what I needed 😊
    Thank you ❤️ from Savannah Georgia 🍑

  • @Kathryn-mp8mr
    @Kathryn-mp8mr 6 дней назад +5

    Dominic Dunne wrote a novel based on this case. It was called The Two Mrs. Grenvilles, and was made into a miniseries that if I remember right starred Ann-Margret as the Ann Woodward character.

  • @ceciliasanchez5901
    @ceciliasanchez5901 День назад

    I’d never heard about this before but it’s so tragic. Please keep up the amazing work! I love your videos

  • @darthlaurel
    @darthlaurel 6 дней назад +28

    Never liked capote. I think he was over-sold.

  • @thisismyname3928
    @thisismyname3928 6 дней назад +6

    I think you meant she used bird shot. Buck shot is the one that kills.

  • @wiseoldowl7625
    @wiseoldowl7625 5 дней назад +5

    William Woodward was not "a horse trainer." He was the leading breeder and owner of top racehorses for decades. He was chairmain of the Manufacturers Hanover Bank ( now Chase.) President of the Jockey Club, the governing board of horse racing, which in those days was the most attended sport in America.

    • @merricat3025
      @merricat3025 День назад +2

      Big difference between horse trainer and horse breeder

  • @ElkeMB
    @ElkeMB 6 дней назад +9

    How awesome! The two great brothers together, can't getting any better! Thank you for the classic history

    • @DianeC.
      @DianeC. 6 дней назад +3

      Who are brothers!!!...🇺🇸🦋

    • @ElkeMB
      @ElkeMB 6 дней назад +3

      @DianeC.
      Forgotten Lives and Mortis are brothers in real life. Mortis has an awesome channel, just look for "Mortis Media" 🙌 They also have another brother, who is in the same business: "History Profiles" 🙌 You'll love them as well! 💯% 👍

    • @ElkeMB
      @ElkeMB 6 дней назад +2

      @Forgotten Lives: The notification came to me saying: Forgotten Lives and Mortis 😮 Lol After i listened the video, i noticed that wasn't none collab with Mortis, but he did uploaded yesterday too, after you 😊 Maybe that's why You Tube sent me the notification like that, who knows? Thank you FLives, i enjoyed the video

  • @reneedennis2011
    @reneedennis2011 6 дней назад +8

    Good video. This case was profiled on Infamous Murders and A Crime to Remember.

    • @kimberlyowens5496
      @kimberlyowens5496 6 дней назад +5

      I miss that show.

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 6 дней назад +2

      @kimberlyowens5496 So do I.

    • @kimberlyowens5496
      @kimberlyowens5496 6 дней назад +3

      @reneedennis2011 you remember the first episode "Go ask Alice "

    • @reneedennis2011
      @reneedennis2011 6 дней назад

      @kimberlyowens5496 I don't think I saw that one . However, I remember the one about the woman who was trapped at the foot of the statue during the University of Texas sh00tings in 1966.

  • @zero_bs_tolerance8646
    @zero_bs_tolerance8646 6 дней назад +3

    Very good. Thank you.

  • @maryroberts9315
    @maryroberts9315 6 дней назад +13

    It's funny to think about which of today's celebrities will be a topic of "Forgotten Lives" in forty years. Cher comes to mind. I think her music will have been forgotten in forty years and she had, and still has, such an interesting life.

    • @ANYHOO0
      @ANYHOO0 6 дней назад +8

      Some of her music may be forgotten but she's been extremely famous for over 50 years, I doubt she herself will be forgotten.

  • @kristinausaj1319
    @kristinausaj1319 День назад +2

    0:13 that is hilarious..."the most beautiful girl in radio"...😂 As radio is the one media, where you can only HEAR people, not SEE them!

  • @Melody-cp9pq
    @Melody-cp9pq 6 дней назад +47

    Capote was a snake. I didn't like him. He used those women. Let them think he was their friend .

    • @baylorsailor
      @baylorsailor 6 дней назад +10

      I think he was a sociopath.

    • @cmaden78
      @cmaden78 5 дней назад +4

      I can't read him. I've tried. And I read almost everything. Something just doesn't feel right. I just get a ugh feeling..lol. no reason, I don't really know anything about him. Like when u meet someone and just get that feeling?

    • @azabujuban-hito-dake
      @azabujuban-hito-dake 5 дней назад +1

      That's quite smart, actially.

  • @sbalsamo410
    @sbalsamo410 4 дня назад

    Another terrific story. You’re the tops. 😊

  • @swedhamurugesh
    @swedhamurugesh 6 дней назад +6

    Her MIL played a negative role in her life

  • @alih429
    @alih429 3 дня назад

    Brilliant channel. Thank you

  • @purplevelvet69
    @purplevelvet69 5 дней назад +3

    Just proves gossip is harmful

  • @m.f.richardson1602
    @m.f.richardson1602 3 дня назад

    Always interesting
    Thank you ❤

  • @sandreawhite7534
    @sandreawhite7534 4 дня назад +1

    Sad. Blessed with beauty and talent and lived a very sad life.

  • @edwardwelty4647
    @edwardwelty4647 3 дня назад

    Very interesting, thank you

  • @islandyyt
    @islandyyt 2 дня назад

    Dominick Dunne’s book, “The two Mrs Greenvilles” is an excellent read.

  • @cherylbrooks7005
    @cherylbrooks7005 День назад

    I went to a John Robert Powers finishing school in Indianapolis, IN, back in the 1970s!

  • @TR-kc7dz
    @TR-kc7dz 6 дней назад +4

    Reminds me of Oscar P. (Aka Blade Runner) and Reeva S

  • @bonnietoups2446
    @bonnietoups2446 2 дня назад

    Answered Prayers should have been titled “In Cold Blood”, but Capote had already used it for his previous book. He had a pattern of insinuating himself into Perry & the Swans’ lives only to exploit their lives for his own literary gain.

  • @angelmarcano6747
    @angelmarcano6747 3 дня назад

    The two Mrs granville's with Ann-Margret I think was based on that, they made it a miniseries it's pretty good it had to come out either in the late eighties or early nineties.

  • @CynthiaCupler
    @CynthiaCupler 4 дня назад

    Good mini series.

  • @claireashley2009
    @claireashley2009 2 дня назад

    My grandmothers uncle died on the USS Liscombe Bay. I wonder if he knew William on board.

  • @LisaEllis-rt3xh
    @LisaEllis-rt3xh 3 дня назад +1

    From what I understand, she use to go with her husband’s father,then turn around and married the man’s son, that stunt made her look bad in front of the high society people, Her future mother in-law said that Anne had no style, a polite way of saying that Anne had no class.

  • @BarbaraJV1
    @BarbaraJV1 4 дня назад

    A truly tragic story. Money doesn't seem to bring happiness.

  • @DonaHERNDON
    @DonaHERNDON 6 дней назад +3

    What sad lives.

  • @taramaxfield7069
    @taramaxfield7069 2 дня назад +1

    I think many of your city pictures are of Pittsburgh, PA....

    • @Zaft_K
      @Zaft_K 2 дня назад

      Pittsburgh Kansas definitely does not have those high hills.

  • @all3ykat79
    @all3ykat79 4 дня назад +1

    Still making great videos.

  • @julieclayton-west624
    @julieclayton-west624 5 дней назад +4

    Capote was a conniving creep. This is a tragic tale.

  • @CashelOConnolly
    @CashelOConnolly 6 дней назад +4

    I think I’d be highly insulted if I was known as the most beautiful woman in radio (think about it)

  • @MightyMezzo
    @MightyMezzo 4 дня назад

    11:10 Is that Ginger Rogers sitting in the jury box? WOW!

  • @nadiasaim4147
    @nadiasaim4147 3 дня назад +2

    pourquoi le titre de la video est en francais , la description ausii mais la lecture en anglais???????

    • @jennyzarate7086
      @jennyzarate7086 2 дня назад +1

      c'est grace à youtube. Pour moi (dans la Bolivie🇧🇴) le titre est en espagnol

    • @nadiasaim4147
      @nadiasaim4147 2 дня назад +2

      @@jennyzarate7086 merci de la réponse , je trouvais ça bizarre et frustrant.

    • @jennyzarate7086
      @jennyzarate7086 2 дня назад

      @nadiasaim4147 de rien

  • @nphipps9406
    @nphipps9406 День назад +1

    i believe that the shooting was an accident know that one confess that he was on the roof top with intention to burglarise the home.

  • @berenicewaters4096
    @berenicewaters4096 6 дней назад

    Thanks for this reak crime story.

  • @nphipps9406
    @nphipps9406 День назад

    a sad thing when mother in law don't like you, those marriages are never happy and it don't end well.

  • @kristenhurst683
    @kristenhurst683 День назад

    Wow, Ginger Rogers was on the jury!

  • @peggypasson8794
    @peggypasson8794 6 дней назад +2

    I gues i dont understand why live with the mil omg what a nightmare that had to be for her an the kids i would think ...sad sad sad ...

  • @arribaficationwineho32
    @arribaficationwineho32 18 часов назад

    Supposedly he had told her he was going to divorce her.

  • @kaarlimakela3413
    @kaarlimakela3413 10 часов назад

    No wonder Capote drank like a fish. The guilt must have been crushing.

  • @marygoff3332
    @marygoff3332 5 дней назад

    Was that a ufo that flew by that airplane?

  • @nancyvillines4552
    @nancyvillines4552 3 дня назад

    KC, Mo or KC KS? Just curious.

  • @deb9ragorton742
    @deb9ragorton742 День назад

    Oscar Pistorious vibes. Shot an "intruder" . She's guilty. You don't just shoot when you know your partner is in the house.

  • @MDiStefano10
    @MDiStefano10 6 дней назад +1

    Be still my heart!

  • @sockjuice8795
    @sockjuice8795 4 дня назад +1

    The couple ' were', not the couple 'was'.

  • @davidgaine4697
    @davidgaine4697 5 дней назад +5

    I can’t be bothered about stars from the 30’s and 40’s who ruined their lives following the American Dream of fame and money. She was a gold digger and I’m not surprised her mother in law disliked her. She was alround bad news and her marriage was never going to end well.

    • @wiseoldowl7625
      @wiseoldowl7625 5 дней назад +2

      There are many inaccurate statements in this video. Far from villifying Ann, Elizabeth Woodward protected her to prevent the Spectacle of an OJ like circus trial. Ann's story was she heard a noise, grabbed her shotgun and didn't call out "who goes there?" It could have been one of her young sons in the hallway. The shooting was not "a mistake." It was either negligent homicide or outright murder. Either way, she escaped prison because Elsie Woodward called in favors.

    • @daniakalaina
      @daniakalaina 2 дня назад +2

      You must be really fun at parties

  • @shelbymartinez104
    @shelbymartinez104 День назад

    I think that you can stand to gain a lot from someone’s death and unfortunate accidents can still happen. I’m not saying she’s innocent I’m just annoyed that so often this is the case and so many people have probably lost everything to these types of narratives.

  • @SThomson-cr1zr
    @SThomson-cr1zr 3 дня назад

    This video never appeared.

  • @bitterbeauty6144
    @bitterbeauty6144 2 дня назад

    The most beautiful girl on radio that’s hilarious. You can’t see the people who are on radio.

  • @quester09
    @quester09 День назад

    Ann and Truman both had trouble handling fame and access.

  • @sallyfields2385
    @sallyfields2385 5 дней назад +1

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @annfisher3316
    @annfisher3316 3 дня назад

    😢

  • @cherylbrooks7005
    @cherylbrooks7005 День назад

    ❤😊❤

  • @realitycheck4842
    @realitycheck4842 6 дней назад +1

    Kansas City isn’t North of Detroit, it’s West.

    • @ForgottenLives
      @ForgottenLives  4 дня назад +1

      I was referring to north of the city of Pittsburg, Kansas!

  • @bonnieyuse5876
    @bonnieyuse5876 День назад

    My X Husband Married me for
    my Looks, Money and Sex...🙄

  • @lisashapiro4714
    @lisashapiro4714 5 дней назад +1

    MTV,cult ,Big tech women

  • @Kathryn-mp8mr
    @Kathryn-mp8mr 6 дней назад +1

    Dominic Dunne wrote a novel based on this case. It was called The Two Mrs. Grenvilles, and was made into a miniseries that if I remember right starred Ann-Margret as the Ann Woodward character.