Polish Ottoman War | Siege of Polish fort
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Info: "Polish-Ottoman War (1672-1676) was a conflict between the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Ottoman Empire, as a precursor of the Great Turkish War. It ended in 1676 with the Treaty of Żurawno and the Commonwealth ceding control of most of its Ukraine territories to the Empire".
Actually it is a quite impressive battle scene considering the movie "Colonel Wolodyjowski" was made in 1969 by a tiny (in comparison to Hollywood studios) Polish - state owned movie industry. Imagine seeing it on a giant screen in a pre-multiplex cinema. For me, as a kid then, it was an amazing experience
"War and Peace" was better.
Tiny my ass, they can use polish army conscript as extras
@@tatumergo3931 zero support from soviet union. Soviet union supported nothing in Poland.
@@tatumergo3931 bullshit these were independent services from soviets. To be honest sovoets killed many people from these organisation for example during investigation about german super weapons ..and during Polish nuclear program. I sugest you to read few books about that for example „ Nowa prawda o wunderwaffe”
@@tatumergo3931 Poland was comunist amd was in Warsaw pact ..only because of Western betreyal. Roosvelt scum and Churchil mfo sold Polamd to the soviets in Yalta..also Poland is a central European country not eastern European country Do your homework properly. Even during comunist times Poland was more and more independent from soviet union. Solidarity movment was not brutali destroyed and that Mk emanuje brought the end of eastern block, woke up people in East germany, czechoslovakia, later Lithuania. Soviets had not invaded Poland because of that. Do your home work.
It's hard to comprehend the cast of thousands to make a epic scene like that. The costume and prop people must have been working overtime.
Just get the army reserves to provide the extra casts like they did with the movie Braveheart.
Kamieniec Podolski was not just a fort. It was one of the most famous and strongest fortess in Polish Lituenian Comonthwelth.
Exactly
And a good soccer player: )
I was there in 2007. Still an impressive place
Certainly was
@@kieskop4684 But Kamieniec was the brother of Lukas
No phone in sight, just people living the moment
It almost looked like NYC Couple months back .
*Dying*
Understood the reference
No CGI! Thank God!
Back when you can legally pay real soldiers to make a war movie
Your choice is - use CGI - or have an empty movie - like Dunkirk.
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In this time it made a trick
Pretty sure there wasn't a lot of CGI in saving private ryan.
I think you missed the point of Dunkirk
@@myview5840 There are scenes in _Saving Private Ryan_ where they could look out at the fleet of ships off shore - that was ALL CGI.
I did not miss the point of Dunkirk - but maybe YOU did.
The director failed to show Dunkirk as what it really was. It was a massive operation involving land, sea and air - which in this movie where the director refused to use CGI - shows - empty beaches, empty sea and an empty sky. The Sea, Sky and Land in this battle were congested with men and equipment. He had like One Warship, half a dozen small boats, half a dozen aircraft and hundreds of non-moving card board cut outs for the men in queue's waiting to be picked up - and that is all you see.
I remember in the scene showing the small boats - what you get is a restricted POV showing the only six boats they had - trying to make out like it was this vast fleet of small boats - and failing to do so.
The Fact of the matter is - that movie makers today - usually do not have access to the man power of films like _A Bridge To Far_ or _Waterloo_ where they had "a cast of thousands". They don't make movies like that any more because they can't afford to.
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For the the time of filming, this is epic. All of the armies are real people.... no computers then... not even the sound is made up.
There was no ottoman outfit such as this.
Polish filmmakers of that period, Vizim knew better military uniforms than the filmmakers of that period.
(In Turkey, janissaries are usually portrayed as dressed in colour, but normally they wear white)
This is where Peter Jackson of the Lord of the Rings series inspired from when he is filming the hordes in battlefield.
Really?
Evil Dead 3 took inspiration from this one. And the contrasting musical tones setting conflicting mood back and forth inspired the music for Taxi Driver.
The death screams are hilarious.
at least they weren't yelling stuff like "ouch", "oooh ow", "owee" , " hey.. that hurts!! "
hahaha true
Because they was real lul
They were screaming in a studio locked inside a tube
them drummers had a real good time.
Polish was always a natural barrier from east threaten
And somehow Polish Lituenian Comonthwelth survive few hundred years, between huge Russian Empire and huge Ottoman Empire.
Yes it's in the middle of europe
@Вхламинго they had trouble? Man we had the best military until the Swedish showed up. And the Ottomans basically wrecked Austria and we had to step in. Poland weakened Russia, that's what in part led to the troubles. Our downfall was assured from the start where the nobles were getting more and more power
@Вхламинго any proof to back that up? Or are you just an angry russian nationalist
@Вхламинго when russia get its peak ottomans already getting downgrade
In Żurawno Commonwealth of Two Nations regained 2/3 territory lost on 1672 year.
Was the sound crew high on mushrooms?
3:15 With these sounds I guess also 2:33
The problem with sound is a common problem in Polish films, even today.... unfortunately.
Well, it was the 60s.
Reminds me of the old computer game Cossacks.
Great parts of the intro of cossacks where taken from War and Peace battle of Borodino ya know
There is new cossacks
The bundles of straw make no sense. They throw them in the empty ditch at the base of the wall. The defenders dump flaming oil on top of them. Now they have a devil of a time setting their wooden ladders amid the fires. But... love the Polish hats with the high crowns and plumes. Very jaunty. Also, nice to see so many people working together on a project. War was like a social glue back then. Until it killed you. As was said, "Another war came along and shortened the life of the population."
I think the straw was meant as a cushion, so the troops following could jump into the ditch without breaking their legs.
God bless Poland
It's a scene of Kamieniec Podolski siege from Polish movie "Pan Wołodyjowski"
Do you have the link to watch full video?
@@dextorkenji Unfortunately. I tried but found only the Polish version without English subtitles.
ninateka.pl/film/pan-wolodyjowski-jerzy-hoffman-cz-i
Maybe it will be useful to someone
What were the rifles the poles were using near 3:25? Historical or cheap props? They look really cool
These are historical weapons - hook guns. Quite an outdated weapon for the era, but useful for defending castles and fortifications. The specimens in the film are quite small for this type of weapon, as they were often used as light artillery.
Super film 👍
What is the movie name?
3:41 he just chillin bro
he's fragging with style
Love from India 🇮🇳 to my Polish brothers and sisters
This was a weird Era in warfare. Some guys have guns and swords. Others look like they have gardening tools. They have cannons but still use burning oil and throw rocks? Everyone's wearing long robes, which seems like the worst choice clothes to fight in, and it's like they are having a contest for the weirdest hat!?
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POLSKA LAST BASTION OF EUROPE ! SUPPORT US !
Bez przesady xD
So well done
Dou you realy man ? İs not Ottoman soldier or suit its arabic ?
04:05 Someone threw a doll! 😀😀😀
Ottoman victory! On October 17, 1672, Poland signed the Treaty of Buczacz, wherein Poland and Lithuania agreed to pay a yearly tribute of 22,000 ducats to the Turks. Kamieniec returned to Poland in 1699, following the Treaty of Karlowitz.
Ottoman Empire doesnt exist anymore, guess Poland remains victorious lmao
@@chaozboy9482 i ve have had polnish girl friends and some polnish friends, we respect each other but you might be an exception of all! Victory is defined new: make friends and no war!
@@BA-1991 respect is earned not given away like candy
and now that land is neither poland nor turkey but ukraine, in the end both sides lost their empire status
@@theresecoco1887 you can read it in history books written by european profs, so learn first before commenting worst...
Размах впечатляет но массовка какая то вялая , когда убивают люди ведут себя поэнергичнее .
Why turkish uniform color is white?
But Jannisarys uniforms is red.
Actualy blue
What show is this ?
Victory & Win for Poland Army.
HAHAHAHAHA IN RAELITY THE OTTOMANS TURKS WON, GOOGLE IS FREE
@@hakang1331 they failed miserably and force to attack vinna then go rekt what bunch of losers
@@rickyyacine4818
Learn history ugly loser, poland and their allies lost almost every war against the Turks :D
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade_of_Varna
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Ottoman_War_(1485%E2%80%931503)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Ottoman_War_(1672%E2%80%931676)
tell me if u want more loses :D
@@rickyyacine4818
u dont write anymore, ugly loser, did u learn how to use Google :D
The taring of the Poles took the Turks completely by surprise!!!
But then the Poles came to the rescue of Vienna and defeated the Muslims in 1683.
Siege of Vienna in 1529 (September 27 - October 15)
The Battle of Vienna 11-12 September 1683
Never thought KKK had such a massive army able to lay siege
@Esira Koli :p
Probably looked quite a bit like this.
later the winged hussars arrived en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khotyn_(1673)
3:16
Auuuuuuuughhhhhuuuu!
AH i seen dis movie, They accidently filming a Truck in the background
it was right before a battle scene 15 min before the fall of the fortress.
It's...it's not bad for the year...and way more accurate than any netflix shitty serie. (like King)
There is no ottoman outfit such as this?
What's a music background on piano?
Wonder what they paid the guys to run into lead and fire? I'd take the job of beating on the big drum.
Movie title?
What movie is this
Colonel Wolodyjowski
@@tezunaga87 thank you
And they retreat.. GOD bless Poland from 🇵🇭..
lol who won
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Poland won!
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Ottomans won but, they suffered much bigger losses than the Poles. Polish defenders had only 1060 soldiers, while the besieging Ottoman army was 120k strong. The siege lasted for 13 days, Ottomans lost up to 18k soldiers. Casualities on the Polish side numbered around 500 men.
@@civishyperboreum6853 thanks for that, very interesting.
0:55 haha you can clearly see that gun is made of cardboard or something, it's just jumping up and down and side to side and they're moving it WAY too fast for it's size :D
Poland 👌👌👌
Hello Poland I love u and I just wanna say we need to reunite the bulkans to restore Constantinople
@@rickyyacine4818 İSTANBUL
aaaaaaaaauuuuuuu arahahahaaaaaaaaaa shaeshushapiteh aaaaahhh *dramatic trumpet noises*
Its good thing the commen wealth was there other wise the balkan disasters will be happened again
кто скажет... как фильм называется?
Pan Wolodyjowski 1969
jesus thats alot of extras
ottomans did not dress al white they wore dark uniforms.
More like Otto-Girlyman
They need Hans and Frans to pump them up
Ну тут я За Поляков
Oh yeah - fire away
Turcja jako jedyne panstwo nie podpisalo Rozbiorow Polski
chyba nie uznało
@@jizzus4842 NAPEWNO nie uznalo jako jedyne panstwo ROZBIOROW POLSKI
LOL the dubbing on this
so much for success.😂😂😂
Komikliğe bak ordunun çoğunu yeniçeriler olarak göstermişler onu geçtim yeniçerilerin üniformalarını bir de beyaz yapmışlar arkayada çöl müziğini koymuşlar bildiğimiz arap gibi göstermişler. Bari tarih filmi çekiyorsunuz araştırında çekin.
Bu ne olum
Kamieniec Podolski .👍🇵🇱
They probably asked half the Polish army to make an appearance.
🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
Strangest shit I ever saw .
с кем воюет поляк не пойму не черта с турком что ли
FUCK OFF...BLADŹ
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🤔
🇵🇱 xD
🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱💪
and 🇹🇷 also epic :D
🇵🇱🇹🇷: Why do we hear the boss music ?
🇷🇺: 🎶 *NA NA NA... KATYUSHA...* 🎶
Well, that's 5 minutes of my life pissed away on horrible film-making.
I understand that the events which inspired the film are real. I'm annoyed that the movie is so awful.
The ottomans won that war💀
This is siege of kamaniçe. After that war cossacks thinks twice when they write letter :D
Siege of Kamieniec podolski. And Polish beated that ottoman force. No cossacs.
Cossacks,what?
Deus Vult!!!!
Well that sucked! You look at Hacksaw Ridge then you look at this shit ahahah.
I can see why hollywood went CGI could you imagine having to pay all those extras 15 bucks an hour ? Lol
That time if everyone of those men could earn 15$ a day they would be overwhelmly happy.
Well, that is why modern war movies are mostly crap in comparison to old movies when everything had to be done practically in front of the camera :)
As far as I remember, the extras were mostly Soviet Army conscripts. The Soviets had lots of special units to be used in all their war movies. The Polish filmakers hired the Soviets because Poland had no such resources, and hiring the Soviet Army units was relatively cheap.
This was an Italian film and has nothing to do with Hollywood or America for that matter.
In poland kind of good money is 5/6 bucks per hour in good job
Statist would take like 2 max 3 dolars
I like polish, just polish said f... o.. to hitler and stalin. Why england, france and usa sold poland stalin by II war why did not helped poland ? It is not fair, I think.
All the best for Poland.
This fort is Kamieniec Podolski - mighty fortress, gateway to europe.
The Caucasus is the gateway to Europe. And Kamyanets-Podolsk is practically its center.
@@idvv4344 You don't have basic historical knowledge of the 17th century, by writing such things you confirm it.
@@mr.twester5754 This fortress was taken by the Turks and they owned it for 27 years. But something further could not advance. This is not to mention that the front of opposition to the Ottomans was from the Volga to Vienna.
This fortress is only a fragment, and a lost one. And not any gate.
PS Smart people discuss ideas and events, and stupid people give ratings to other people (c)
Kamieniec Podolski:Total War
3:45 Polish Bomberman xD
He has clearly been around the block a few times.
Костюмы, огонь, сколько труда костюмеров.
Это просто адски дорогой фильм.
Crimean tatars participated in this battle.
Crimea was a part of the Ottoman Empire.
@@kedici2583 Crimea have been independent islamic government.
Crimean government only submitted turkish spiritual lider~chalif.
@Вхламинго This is from deceitful russuan wikipedia. You know nothing about Muslim's history. And you say according to the manuals written by your shamefull grandfathers, who fought against peaceful people (women, children and oldmen) in Crimea, Kavkaz, Ukraine)
@Вхламинго Listen here. Yes, Crimean Tatars was in good relationship with Ottomans, but they was technicly independent. The Crimean Khan was independent ruler. Yes he was mostly acting with will of the Sultan, but it was like that beacuse 1stly, both was Islamist, 2ndly both hated Cossacks and ther Raids, 3rdly both disliked Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth, and Grand Principality of Moscow. ( or First Tsardom of Russia, if you wanna argue about that) . If i can compere the relationship between the Tatars and Ottomans, it would be like relationship between Russia and Armenia . Armenia is Independent, but is also acting with agreedment to will of Russia beacuse if they wont, the Turkey and Azerbaijan could just take them.
So it all was just an interes.
Also Crimean Khans was not idiots. They were a wise people, who knowed very well about power of P.L.C. and T.o.R. If those great powers of Estern Europe went to war on serious with them, Crimean Tatars could been crushed in a while.
So if you would had to choose, it would been better to be in aliance with the strongest Empire in Europe (at least at this moment) or end like other hordes on the border of Europe and Asia. You know very good what happend to them
@Вхламинго Ok man, i told ya how it was, you have your own viev on that, i understand it... but maby ask Crimean Tatar first or a Turk, to hear how it was.
“I’d like to be a straw or ladder carrier in this battle” .... said nobody ever
i want the job of beating on the drum.
@@charlesfoutch1132 it oś heter to be camera man. Camera man never dies 😉
Look at it, No mobile phones, just people living in the moment.
To jest oblężenie Kamieńca Podolskiego
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The Ottomans taking on the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was a huge over-reach.
That's because they were significantly weaker in that period.
@@lkvideos7181 Not really, they had no hope of projecting power over that distance and sustaining it in the face of a culture that would not bow to them.
Dude.. did you make those noise effects yourself? lol
yes ! he did !
you found it out !
incredible !
AAuuuuuugghuuuuu 3:15 lol Sounds like he did.
Did you hear the horn sound ?
@@lvlc6023 nope where is it
@@adankmeme651 3:39
The flag on the Fortress Tower is not moving.
its difficult for a painting to have 3d effects
IT`s moving
@@lamafioza5123 Whoops your right. In the very next scene the flag is a waving.
I thought the same thing then saw the edge move
0:52 there's bombarding at background ,
Meanwhile armymen are chilling ,walking along the trail 😂😂.
God please give this types of confidence also to me 😭😭😭
Me too
Simple. Don't be born during the 20st and 21st century
They don’ give a fuck. If you die for Allah you will get many dozens of virgins... 99% of them will be men but They had zero influence on this 😆
I' m of the same opinion hordes of Turks attacked Vienna but Vienna hold & then saved when the Polish army appeared because they committed into the battle at the right critical moment & then turned things around but not before because nothing absolutely nothing could stopped the Turks if they could find a way to pushed in into the city was all over then could march on foot all over of central Europe & in the final analysis this polish success determine to saved the progress made of the so called solid foundation of the western civilization the credit go to Poland & history can't denied it because other wise it would be wrong .
I love Poland, greetings from Mozambique 🇲🇿
"Pan Wołodyjowski"
Ahh my grade 6 movie glad to finally see it again thankfully it was easy to find too :)
These screams XD: 3:15
They probably sreamed "Allah " or " Bismillah".
@@tomasztchorz9007 makes sense since the ottomans are islamic
lgbtq:we are braver than army
army in the past:walk during battle
Çok zikici bir sahneydi... Seslendirme harika.. :)
I feel bad for the camera man. having to go back in time just to record this event
I’m confused, but ok 👍🏻🤷🏻♂️
They dont make em like this anymore
The Turkish band on the kettle drum 2:42 really rocks hard :D
When one of them got killed by a cannon the other three went on to form "The Blue Man Group".
Name of movie: "Pan Wołodyjowski" (Mister Wolodyjowski), from 1969.
Name of fort: Kamieniec Podolski (Kamianets-Podilskyi)
@Emil Wrześniak kolega doliwaq nadaje się na typowego tłumacza filmowego ;)
Yes Kamenet Podolsk citta in ROMA PIATTA IMPERIAL monument, Traian War 101-105 Romans take ower Dakia
@@tezunaga87 po polsku tytuł to "Pan Wołodyjowski" , więc nie wiem o co się czepiacie. Skoro ktoś w USA czy Wielkiej Brytanii przetłumaczył to jako "Pułkownik Wołodyjowski" to on był słabym tłumaczem.
@@doliwaq tak dokładnie rzecz ujmując to amerykański/ angielski tłumacz zrobił doskonałą robotę nie tłumacząc literalnie tytułu. Praca tłumacza polega nie na dosłownym przekazywaniu znaczenia słowa ale oddaniu sensu zdania, wyrazu. Doskonałym przekładem jest wyrażenie "Z góry dziękuje", które przetłumaczone dosłownie jest bez sensu dla angielskojęzycznego odbiorcy. Słowo "Pan", w XVII wieku znaczyło dużo więcej niż obecnie i odnosiło się nie tyle do samej płci co do godności. Pan, oznaczało osobę szlachecką, pełniącą rolę elity w hierarchii społecznej. Znamienne jest to, że do dzisiaj na wschodzie Europy mówi się często o Polakach "Pany", ponieważ kojarzeni jesteśmy tam często jako szlachta, która osiedlała się na kresach i zarządzała swoimi majątkami. Słowo Mr. nie oddaje w żadnym wypadku znaczenia zwrotu Pan dla tej epoki.
@@tezunaga87 Słowo pułkownik tym bardziej tego nie oddaje.