Supreme Commander - FAF Cast
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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I remember old Total Anihilation let you lose coms on your team and continue playing but you lost the match as soon as the final com got taken out. Don't remember the name of that game mode but it seems like a good balance between full share and assassination.
If I’m not mistaken BAR (Spring engine TA clone) has that game mode by default. Not a big fan of it, but it would be nice to have it as a game mode in FAF
The commander blew up like a nuke .. one of the trick was to carry your commander to the middle of you apponents base at the start of the mid game and destroy it.
@@adammckay7335 or to pick your opponent's comm with a transport at the start and then self-destruct the transport,which took the comm with it. Had that happen to me a few times before I surrounded my comm by flak and air defence at the start,against that opponent.
It wasn't a game mode, you just had a yes/no option for whether commander defeat meant player defeat. (Edit: on second thoughts this may be inaccurate)
I think that option might draw out battles longer than needed, SC has units that make commanders become basically extra eco (unless you have a mazercom).
Seems more practical to force less players to micromanage more units to sway the battle, and allow for early strong player ejections who would still be a force to reckon with sans commander.
Game Ends / Continue / Deathmatch, Deathmatch was quirky and was not useful, because it would just destroy all your shit and respawn you at a random location. It was mostly the Game Ends / Continue option that was used, though Continue tended to lead to people suicide bombing with a transport lol.
OMG the GCs FINALLY have the deploy animation that was in the game files but unused! I did a double take at 28:02 but there it is, arms folded and kneeling. 15 years after the fact but damn am I happy for it!
I noticed that!! I thought it was a glitch but it's cool to know that it was a 'new' animation ;)
There's a 2nd animation, too! This other one showcases the GC also in a kneeling position, however, with the arms extended out below them against or to hold the ground - instead of their arms being crossed. Similar to the position assumed by a (professional) track runner just before starting their sprint.
Nice, I didn't even notice that! Really cool!
There's a different kneeling animation at 26:10 (the blue ping is on it) :D
This game is a prime example of just how a team can break apart when they start to in-fight/argue.
If people refuse to alter their tactics when fullshare is on then they get what they deserve.
Frankly it's nice to see games where com-sniping is not the be-all end-all tactic.
But on assassination that's the whole point of the game.......
@Jonas Jonaitis every game is assassination. Il
Fullshare is just dumb, it punishes teams that kill lower rated/low APM players. You shouldn't punish a team for completing the main objective of the game which is to kill the enemy commanders.
If a player makes a mistake and their com gets killed why would that benefit their team?
@@nilloc93 No, fullshare is not dumb. Failing to adapt tactics to fullshare being active is dumb.
Hundreds of units and structures instantly evaporating on the battlefield because the com died *is dumb*.
@@nilloc93 The objective of the Forged Alliance is to win the battle. The Assassination game mode adds the condition that killing the commander removes the forces under their control from the field. Full share does not punish you for winning the battle, it punishes you for not being careful about how you engage the enemy. It makes no difference to the overall objective of the game, it's just geared towards a different kind of strategy than Assassination is, and players just don't adapt to it.
- hmmmm we have lost 3 players to air rides
- hmmmmm yea...
- Do you think it would be good idea to build some anti air?
- hmmmmmm
- hmmmmmmm
- nah bro, don't worry
*4-th player lost to air raid*
Yes, the Air Staging can refuel multiple craft at once, four T1-T3 fighters or four T1-T2 gunships or two T3 gunships at a time. The ai usually just bugs out and does them one at a time though lol
Also in the original it was just 1(T3) aircraft as well.
Funny how sobaka is sniping the eco into the hands of the high rated players and then leaves... Seems to me he was the agent of his own demise.
I think the Air battle happened over the exploding Com and Red had slightly more and healthier planes so most of his survived the explosion.
Yep; that's what I saw broadly occur.
Indeed that is what happened
For some reason I found that "Teleporter cancelled" message at the end hilarious.
Can I just take a moment and mention how badass a name "Collapse of the Alliance" is?
Oh yeah, and a great demonstration of Fatboy Critical Mass at 41:00
Yes a squadron can have mixed aircraft types. The most common example would be a squadron going from one platform (P-3) to the newer one (P-8) and having both at the same time. You can also have something like a test squadron with quite a few different platforms (e.g. H-60R, H-60S, E-2D, P-3, P-8, and Firescout) all in a single squadron at the same time.
More commonly you're going to have a Wing with various squadrons under them that are platform specific. Like a US Carrier's airwing will have an HSC (H-60s for SAR), VFA (F-18s, F-35s), and VAW (E-2s).
Yeah dunno much about air but ground forces almost always have variety of troops in a squad. Versatility is key in warfare
Amused by the several Gunther shells from dominix's firebase that end up impacting on tac missiles.
ooohhh... I was trying to figure out wth was going on!!!!
Lost it at "If your a fan of Elon Musk you deserve to be a little bit disappointed"
I knew there was a reason I kept watching your casts
He is the best entertainer of all the casters...
Full share just means you have to think bigger picture than just sniping coms.
Yeah people love complaining about full share but never adapt their gameplay to the gamemode, it's far more interesting to have to actually win via damaging infrastructure than a cheap snipe
sniping all the ECO was way better than sniping all the ACU's, if you know beforehand the match is full share play different ?
Yes but full share is cancer
@@corradoalamanni179 Not necessarily. I think that was Justin's point; if you know that the game is full-share, then you, as a commander, have to be wiser about your movements. Instead of dedicating resources to snipes, like in standard games, you have to crush your enemy's ability to fight by hitting their infrastructure.
@@guardingdark2860 I would love to 3rd option - where during full share, killing acu doesn't gifts the best player in team all stuff, but the weakest player. Just stop giving pro gamers additional superiority in game,but giving small chance to less advanced player to use something and there will be still uncertainity, that inexperienced player will use additional power correctly.
@@komandorbentus2731 I think that could be interesting, but there's a good chance they will just turn it over to the better player anyway, or at least turn most of it over while keeping some of it for themselves to boost their own position.
That thumbnail is, without a doubt, the greatest thing I have seen all year.
I love this game, I really believe it it’s THE game. I always come back to it after a few months, and been doing that for years.
I hope it never dies
oh how I missed these games, so glad to be able to sit down and relax with this on as I work on warhammer post deployment, thank you for what you do Sir.
5:20 gotta love that symmetry
God, that triple Fatboy barrage was wondrous to behold
I love it ....those thumbnails, they are so silly and i love it! 🤣
Thank you for as always, a nice cast!
Personally i like full share far more than no share. Ppl just do cybran com teleport with microwave and thats it. Its just who get there first or who get first arty/nuke. Full share you have to think whom you put out first. And more important is that you have to focus on enemy eco. More tactics, more fun.
Always a pleasure to watch these casts, cheers! The game was awesome too
HELLO THERE! GENERAL KENOBI ! AHH Gyle as always a person of culture! Refrences "Hello there" from SW Episode III at 3:00
Great cast! Air battle went down on top of exploding com
@Gyle 24:20 T1's can even land four at a time.
Happy new year creative gyle:D 🌾🔥🤠🌅🧙🏿♂️🏃♂️🌴 I am so great to tell you the power of our techlit and remember🧐👥💣📛 full share is 64.38% better
Nothing to add on this one, just dropping a comment to help boost engagement. Cheers again, Gyle!
Ooh, Gyle uses the Julian calendar. Everything makes so much more sense now.
Happy New Year to all and thanks everyone for being here!
Thank god you fixed the sound
this is nuts i love seeing sup com fa stuff pop up its awesome!
So I'm a longtime member/follower/subscriber and just recently also became a patreon supporter. With that said, can you please add more epics to the youtube account? I watch your stuff from the comfort of my bed, via youtube, on my television :)
Other than that, keep up the good work and keep those epics coming!
Best regards!
I think the source of the problem with full share is that each player is limited in how much they can grow by the expansion of their own teammates. Not only does this encourage players to be selfish and hoard their limited resources at the expense of their team, it leads to the problem Gyle has mentioned in the past where the death of one player can mean that another player on their team gets a massive boost in power for free, meaning that killing a commander might actually put your team at a disadvantage if you leave enough of their infrastructure intact. I think I might prefer Planetary Annihilation's system where all players on a team share resources from the start. Until such a system is implemented, though (which it might never be), the players have to adapt the way they play the game.
LOL "Laser-faced in the back of the head" 26:00
Fun fact: Chico is a fantastic brewing yeast!
Such a good game. Its borderline perfect in my opinion. The only flaw I could find is the LAG. If high end computers can lag with many units at end game, what more if I play in my ancient laptop which runs on coal heh.
Lag is mainly due to the fact the game isn't optimized for multi-core processors. Higher your clock speed the better off you are, and clock speeds haven't gone up much the last 10 years.
Fuck yeah - who just poured himself a GT!?
43:30 Supremacy is how my friends and I play, works really well for newer players especially. I can see why pro's wouldn't want to though.
Watching this a year on and a flying car has just gotten FAA approval for the first time ever, and there's loads of companies, each bringing their own take on flying cars to the market in the next few years. One of them has said they think they'll be selling for $100,000. I'm gonna sell my house for a flying car!
I see a new Gyle video and I click... skip skip skip the pele-whatsit advert and oh no I've mis-clicked and gone Cybran!
35:16 - term "squadron" is broad engouht to make this statement correct. Sometimes even ground support unit are counted as part of air squadron.
Yeeewww more gyle! Been waiting for this! 🪐🌠
Wow that's a lot of air kills. Been waiting for this one
The thing with annihilation is that it can result in an annoying end to the game where you're going round mopping everything up.
Maybe a modded annihilation where if your commander is dead and your eco is less than 2% (or some adjustable figure) of the strongest player on the enemy team, then you're out of the game?
Like Gyle suggested you would have a gentlemen agreement to ctrl+k if you lost.
to be fair i've had the same thing happen with assassination - searching for a stealth com in the ocean or something
@Jonas Jonaitis If the enemy has been neutered to the point where he can't sting you back, there's no challenge to mopping up every single unit and building. It therefore becomes a chore that you have to go through in order to finish the game before you can move onto the next battle.
@Jonas Jonaitis Its pretty boring to watch a one-sided match.
Belated Happy New Year, Gyle! :)
I am definitely YES for more ANIHILATION GAMES instead of full share. Would be something new in the gameplay, good idea.
Super game & commentary, as always!
14:15 Kaban going kaboom :)
Gonna watch tonight, just stopping by to like 👍
Full Share is a nice middle ground tbh, yeah you keep infrastructure and it probably goes to the strongest player but it also gives the remaining players more fronts to deal with and increases the APM requirements to be effective while not simply letting the enemy team steam roll over what could possibly be an unlucky moment.
Anhilation: You aren't out until you are out self explanatory
Full Share: Getting sniped increases the mental burden on your team but good players can recover and fight back
No Full Share: Getting sniped increases the burden on your team but also means they are behind in mass income and will often get rolled over by an economically stronger opponent now
I like full share because it more often results in being able to pull off a comeback but it requires you to play well to do it. No full share generally ends fast for a lot of games and only the top tier players tend to be able to pull comebacks with, great if watching pro's but average joes are just punished, also those dastardly fairies get to survive D:
would love to see the new years props on the thumbnail in game at some poin,that would be nice
MA!!!
MA GET THE CAMERA GYLE UPLOADED AGAIN!!!
Im pretty sure it depends on size for the air staging refueling. Im pretty sure I used it for out of fuel t1 interceptors and I'm pretty sure they where going 4 at a time.
26:50
Did FAF remove stomp damage from the GC? That's incredibly lame.
Maybe not and why would they. Maybe it was just too close but not hitting the buildings.
@@yokyopeli1104
Not just building, even when the GC is stepping on the smaller units, they didn't get damaged either.
Quite sad that they removed a lot of physic realism in the game.
@@Weigazod FAF is meticulous when it comes to game balances though, I'm sure they considered stomp damage giving that faction's experimental too much an advantage.
I wondered exactly the same thing. Monkeylord and GC both have 'Massive' tags yet no crush damage on spam. Very disappointing
So, we are waiting for annihilation game 42:51 And thanks for great cast.
Love it thanks Gyle
How many times have you been MVP taking 80% of the opponents out only to still lose? That's some serious balancing there amazing game amazing cast
👋
let the good times roll - HQ
In fairness, Full share probably contributed to the win, for sure, but like, 3 nukes landed on some MAIN BASES of team 1, post 30 minutes, and they didn't have anti-nukes. I mean... That's not full share's fault.
I do agree though, that playing full share on is probably better to just play annihilation.
I wish you could turn full share on per player, because when a top level player gets lower level persons stuff its not fair. But if you snipe the top player without full share the team folds. No full share is still better than the current implementation.
woo happy new year!
On full share it seems like it's a mistake to kill too many enemy coms early. Sobaka may have lost his team the game
yeah, the issue is that generally less skilled players get their coms killed and then the base transfers to pro players who do more with it. fullshare is cancer.
@@nilloc93 People have to adapt, then it can turn into a really interesting round
=D definitly the future, the present is yesterday
Thanks for casting, Gyle!
Whats up with Jagged Appliance?
If they hadn’t gone full hissy fit I think team one could have clutched it. Woeful aircover, zero AA. They only needed 2 more snipes. However, no SMD after two nukes have gone off… indefensible.
444, how applicable for the first cast of this year.
No filthy xeno representation :(
Happy New Years Gyle!
always with the unsupported experimentals. .. . 5-10 anti-air T2 would work wonders for the average rambo push.
Would be great to see some games with at least 1500 avg rating.
Like, there was some epic moments, but i've been facepalming for the most of the game.
I cannot finish this gameplay - so boring, so bad.
welcom back
Nice game
What’s really dirty is tele GC insta sacrifice built.
gyle comments ... cheesey dad jokes are essential
Can I try this some day
Fifth is always best. Always!!
it is not the problem of full share mode , it is just their tactics are not good for this mode and they should have played differently
instead of assassination, full share, or annihilation, there ought to be a mod that just removes the commander, starts you with three t1 engys.
So you just want to take the Commander out of Supreme Commander?
@@beetheimmortal Yes.
@@moroseightysix But why though?
@@beetheimmortal Get rid of snipes, get rid of rambo coms, com bombs, make it an actual strategy game instead of a "how am I going to kill this one unit" game, make strategic decisions matter in the early game more than micro, etc.
@@moroseightysix At that point you are basically playing a larger scale C&C or Age of Empires. It's no longer Supreme Commander.
I want team 2 to because they have the most UEF
I love Orange in this one. Sitting back spamming his useless low-tech ASFs, getting completely crushed every time he deploys them, and complaining and barking orders at all his teammates the whole match instead of helping in any meaningful way. Like he's the air player and he's yelling at his teammates on the front line for not having AA while they get killed. Bravo
Finally, 1 video a month lol. Seriously though gyle, we need at least 2 for real. Please gyle
Are you supporting him on patreon? Last month he put out 5 videos on patreon and 3 on the RUclips channel, I think that's plenty especially considering he's a family man.
It’s also depends on people summiting replays. He can’t do more if there’s no huge increase in replay submissions.
It is pretty obvious who is going to win. Red sniping commanders was really not that strong because he left the two strongest players on the South team to run the entirety of the game.
Hello Gyle
So many Russians in this game, why? ☺ Great game Moxnat and GeneralValdobi.
Full share at the very least needs adjustment so that the lowest rated player gets the stuff. Not the highest.
And this is why you dont snipe in fullshare
Sounds like you never drove a Tesla… Maybe they don't fly, but they are far more than anyone would have expected.
And for that, the engineers at Tesla have my respect but not musk himself. The man's a charlatan.
@@GyleCast Lol, glad you can see it! It's amazing how everyone on the planet thinks he is greatest smartest man alive, when reality hes just some joe shmoe who uses taxpayers, and other peoples money and hard work to create that image.
good fight only rarely do your videos come out
How in the flying fk did Yelaone get a veteran rank when his ACU was in the middle of building a point defense that wasn't even 20% complete? His com was in the verge of blowing up under that firepower while he was building a PD. And he mysteriously got a Veteran rank up? No sir....not on my watch. 13:00
didn't get 10v10 in 2021, 2022 our year fr
a place plenty rows behind first
Multikiiiil
Man, full share sucks...
Full Share is good and Different to Annihalation. Stop shittalking.
Getting another base, because your teammate dies, is not meaning everything keeps working fine for that base. Weirdos.
Sry for talking hard true facts, but Full Share is not Annihilation and that's why there are different modes.
If you don't wanna play fullshare - fine, don't do it!
These people knew or should have known which mode they played and the fact that they and you blame it on the mode is like if you lose in rock-paper-scissors and say "Oh, I would have won in Battleship."
Well - maybe! But just because it is not that mode, or else your opponent would have played different, too.
Introductions done around 4:00
Brown chat text on a desert map. Smh
LOL gyle! the hyperloop is a joke, makes zero sense.
Valdo was rly bad at air wtf
gg
ahhh first!
12v12 just do it hahaa