Babylon 5 | S4E11 - Lines of Communication | Reaction
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- DISCLAIMER:
All rights belong to the Prime Time Entertainment Network and TNT. No copyright infringement intended.
Copyright Disclaimer, Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for 'fair use' for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use.
AMAZON WISH LIST:
www.amazon.co....
PO BOX:
Medusa Cascade
PO Box 273
Aberystwyth
SY23 9BP
SUPPORT THE CHANNEL:
Patreon: / medusacascade
SOCIAL:
Twitter: / cascademedusa
Thank you all for the support!
#Babylon5
I think there's sometimes a tendecy to underestimate Delenn. She's all smiles, she's a member of a religious cast, she's a diplomat... and you forget she's a _member of the Grey council_ . She'll try peace when possible, but if not, she's definetly the kind to crush the enemy as fast and as hard as possible, no mincing about.
It's all Delenn too; *she* is her own influence. Religious caste doesn't mean they don't have their own warships. The castes fought each other *before* Valen's DNA became part of the mix.
She caused one of the biggest genocides in the show's running so she's definitely earned some fear
"Only one human captain has ever survived battle with a Minbari Fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else!" - you gotta love Delenn.
She's (was) not only a Member of the Grey Council - She is the one who would have become the next Chosen One. But she is the only Minbari in history that rejected that offer.
I love how the White Star turns on its own axis. Delenn being 'bad ass' with "End this" was great too.
It's actually part of the realistic flight model adopted by Babylon 5. This is proper have proper 0g manouvering, which we also see B5 Starfury's doing.
I turned on the captions on this video and it was comedy gold; My favourite WAS when it translated Pak Ma Ra as Pokemon but then later it thought was Za Ha Dum was Sacramento ! :)
There's a behind the scenes story that when they filmed the Drakh emissary, the costume and mask looked kinda silly on camera, so they added the phasing effect in post-production to distort the image, and it looked a lot better!
Much like the Zarg, the costume looked great in still photos but in motion, it looked terrible. They ended up having to obscure both costumes in different ways.
I believe part of it was that they couldn't get the mask to not look like just a mask, and told the actor playing the emissary to act like he was phasing. They didn't really know what that should mean and couldn't give the confused actor anymore clarity, hoping that it would work out in the end when post production got the footage and the description that the emissary should be phasing.
blood curdlingly so
Cranky Susan is my favourite Susan too :D
I love how, once he figures it out, Lennier mouths "Z'ha'dum" to Delenn at 6:50
Oh wow. I never, in all the times I’ve seen this show, noticed that.
I think of the Minbari religious caste as Shao Lin warrior monks IN SPACE. We've seen before that Lennier was highly trained in martial arts as a novice in temple. And the worker caste have their own fleet of warships too. Basically it's only a matter of emphasis between the castes, but ALL the Minbari are more than capable of kicking your ass :)
I love the Sheridan and Ivanova interaction in this episode, it really makes it clear that they're friends and completely "get" each other.
It's great work.
This! The true, obvious and realistic friendships between characters are one of my favourite parts of B5 :D and well, many of the actors became friends in real life so it was probably lots of fun to play off each other
“What am I, chopped flarn?”
A little reminder that they've known each other for years prior to Sheridan's arrival to Babylon 5.
"You have a face people trust!"
"I'd rather have a face people fear."
"Ahm..that too"
So human.
Also 2:50 to 3:10 was golden :)
Edit:
Also 7:45 this is a rather big jump in this episode...
Excellent reaction and observations, as always.
"Never forget who I was, who I am, and what I can do." Delenn in a nutshell. Mira's delivery is perfect!
The moment Delenn realizes what was going on with the Drakh is quite chilling.
Her reaction is showing the other side of "do not forget what I can do!" :
"End this!" - and they did.
Her speech to Sheridan at the end shows that she understands him better than he does himself.
Ivanova's reaction to the proposed news outlet is a lot of fun. But yes, if anyone can do it, she can.
Interestng that you would compare the Drakh emissary to a Dementor. So were the dementors modelled after this. Maybe not.
Interesting observations. I cannot say if they are right or wrong, because "spoilers!" .
Be seeing you!
I think the Dementors and Drakh were both modeled on the Grim Reaper.
Delenn had several crowning moments of badassery, and this was one of them.
When I first saw s4, i wondered what they'd do with the Shadow War over so early. Turns out the duration was a lot longer.
Congratulations on 8k subscribers!
Welcome back! I've missed these journeys with you. Happy to continue. Here we go!
Good to have you back.
Missed these reactions.
Delenn's continued badassery.
Susan's impending badassery.
Drak expansion.
Mars resistance meeting upcoming.
Setup for the rest of season 4.
Enjoy 🙂
For all of her tragic flaws and terrible mistakes, Delenn has got to be the wisest and most understanding relationship partner in the Universe. Her speech to John in the war room never fails to shatter my heart.
Welcome back, I hope you are well rested. Glad to see more B-5 reactions. I was getting worried.
Some people didn't like the visual effect used on the Drakh, but I think the out of phase look works really well.
I have always thought that the out of phase look showed that the Drakh were evolving along the lines of the Shadows. The Shadows were invisible unless they wanted to be seen and the Drakh were in a middle ground where they were not yet invisible but they blurred their form to make it more difficult to see them.
Delenn really is one of the greatest characters in the history of science-fiction. As strong as she is wise, every time.
And she is still this incredibly beautiful, feminine person, who has smile that is bright as sun and when she get's mad, she will tear a re-inforced bulk down with her stare. Its amazing how well they have wirtten her. She is woman and feminine while being completely bad ass.
"End this" still gives me chills. Such a great line (among many others) by one of the most talented performers I've ever seen.
Aside from this episode being another crowning moment of awesome for Delenn, I love the tiny worldbuilding bit of interlac. No universal translators here: When you encounter another species you send them files in a (probably artificial) simplified language, I'd assume with things like images or computer codes so they can connect them with their own words. That allows for at least basic communication until you can properly exchange data files to allow for machine translation or get a bilingual individual on board. I'm not sure on the details, but love that idea.
I want "Zha'ha'dum went, like, BOOM" on a t-shirt. 😁
Lol I loved your reaction to Susan in her room.
The shadows had apprentices, the vorlons had apprentices. The apprentices had apprentices and those apprentices are looking for apprentices. So the cycle goes on.
And the Shadows and Vorlons themselves were apprentices of Lorien and the rest.
Thank you of my best shows. It truly a great experience.
It's good to see you back to B5.
It's just occurred to me that this isn't the first time we've seen a Drakh.
In season 3's "Ship of Tears" they wheel in the body of the pilot on a gurney. They'd committed suicide and the body was too badly burned to identify but if you look closely at the head that's revealed, it's definitely a Drakh (which would also track as they're servants of the Shadows).
Hmm, you sure that wasn't a Wurt instead, @Chris M ?
They're a fairly obscure servant species.
Never severely piss off a Minbari. You won't survive it.
And we have a one-sided war to prove it.
3:51 "Rare as gold" _has to_ be just a figure of speech in the Babylon 5 canon. As soon as Earth cracked open the first metallic asteroid it came across, gold would be readily available.
It's kind of like how aluminum metal was extremely rare and valuable back in the days before electricity. Soon as we figured out how to refine it, it became a cheap but nonetheless useful metal.
Cheap gold would be used in everything as electrical conductors and as a protectant against chemical reactions.
That would be true.
But you got think that this was the 90s and writers when writing a story tend to be thinking 10 years behind the current time, sometimes they can think ahead but not always.
For example watching from modern prospective we know thar B5 would loaded down with CCTV in every corridor and most if not all rooms.
Down below CCTV will probably be out of commission for obvious reasons and CCTV in the private rooms would only be viewed if an incident happened.
It would be interesting to see how the remake will be down with all the new modern tech and understanding of the universe. If it every gets done.
Gold is still considered "The gold standard" so to speak, Command stat bars are made of gold to denote the highest ranks, regardless of it's availability humans still find it beautiful
💘 Delenn!!! RiP Mira Furlan 💔😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
The Drak are borderline creepier than the shadows themselves
You've gotta love Delenn,her speeches are so deep and meaningful. In this stage of B5 there's so much going on you loose track. Also will you be doing any reaction videos for Babylon5 spin off series Crusade?
Delenn might not be a warrior by nature but Minbari do tend to go all-in on whatever they're doing. Total dedication is kind of ingrained in their culture. You don't really seen them half-ass anything.
Reminds of what Yoda says to Luke "No! Try not! do or do not, there is no try"
That pretty much something the Minbari up.
They are very much of Samurai of old Japan. Utter dedication for anything they pursue till they have completely mastered it.
One thing I like about this show is that things don't always just tie up neatly. Of course the Shadows would have allies who still have goals and motives and lives. War leaves power vacuums, mess, mines, waste, damage, debris, and above all survivors.
Yeah, I like that.
It's a shame we don't get that too often with stories with war. Its usually fight eventually win by the skin of there teeth, big celebrations the end (sometimes it just ends without the celebrations).
And if we do come back to that universe there's either a big time jump or telling a different story far removed from that part of the universe.
Star wars
Star trek DS9
COD modern warfare
Gears of War
Avatar the last airbender
Just to name a few and all of them could've had interesting aftermath stories.
I know are games but a DLC would've been nice.
Also not including books just the mainline stories, people shouldn't have to read books to know what's going, if they want to then good for them.
Glad to see you back!
One thing I've noticed these past two episodes - the Shadows influence and how pervasive they got was much larger than anyone suspected.
Reminder- we now have seen the Keeper 3 times- on the Centauri PM, Captain Jack, and a future Londo.... Makes me wonder if they planted one on Cartagia and that's what drove him mad.....Also makes me wonder how many in Earth Gov has one...
Interesting thought. Personally, I think that they _didn't_ plant one on Cartagia because there was no real need to - he was already malleable in his madness. Londo's dialogue seems to indicate that his mental state has been a long-standing one. Cartagia just needed the appeal to his delusions of godhood, which the Shadows and their allies were more than happy to provide. As far as EarthGov, the Shadows were already working with a willing puppet in Clark, so again no need. There also can't be an abundance of these Keepers, else they'd be far more wide-spread.
@@evenmoor Cartagia was a free roaming agent of chaos. Putting that loon on the throne was a stroke of luck for the Shadows so they just let him be him.
Not necessary. Cartagia was simply a useful idiot for the Shadows.
Londo's currently Prime Minister, you're thinking of Regent Varini. We don't really know how pervasive the Drakh influence is within EarthGov for reasons I won't go into here due to potential spoilers.
If this show teaches us anything, it teaches us just how dangerous a question "What do you want?" really is.
"creepy" - yes, the Shadows' allies, who were left behind, are portrayed as creepy, icky, dark, shadowy, etc. Wouldn't it be also possible that their allies could be bright, beautiful, smiling?
Morden was VERY attractive and I LOVED his hair.
@@tulinfirenze1990 Yeah, but Morden worked the sales department. These guys worked in the basement.
I suppose the allies of the Shadows couldn't be all pastels and easter bunnies.
Consider that the other guys on the side of light and order-- had Jack the Ripper as one of their agents.
Turn on captions and click 4:15 for a "Pokemon Transport" in B5.
The Drakh had a peculiar gait that reminded some of a "Drunken Master" fighter, but was intended as a different arrangement of bone structure.
It's a good job they drove off the Drakh... they definitely would have made the divisions between the Minbari casts worse and done god knows what to Minbar as a consequence.
Push the buttons with a war face Lannier!
Yes, the Drak are creepy alright. And Delenn is so right. Destroying is easy but rebuilding, that's the hard part. And once again, she shows us her many faces. Truly, she is magnificent!
the white stars in this episode seem a little bit overpowered against the drakh mothership
But otherwise maybe i have to think about it as an aircraft carrier/supply vessel. barely no power on its own but delivering the fighters/ships that punch
A scene has been edited out The white stars get their asses kicked and one vessel is destroyed. The survivors barely survive by fleeing into hyperspace. They then catch the Drakh by surprise because they didn't expect Delenn to come back.
@@TheUltrahypnotoad "who said we were leaving?!" *goosebumps*
Minimum size of the Drakh cruiser: 3.5-.6 km; maximum size: about 14.1 km (depending on how you scale a Whitestar)
I probably lean toward the smaller size, but we can see they are considerably weaker than Shadow battlecrabs, and likely weaker than some Minbari ships.
And yes, this 'cruiser' did seem more of a carrier, overall.
@@TheUltrahypnotoad i know but there it's the fighters.
woohoo ... she's back
Well, we're down to the business end of the main arcs...... Time to strap in because S4E12 - 22 are a Rollercoaster ride you will never forget and you can only see them for the first time once... I envy you.
Welcome back!
i can't wait until she gets to the next episode :)
Delenn is such a bad a$$...I would worship a woman like that
Delenn is one of the strongest female characters ever -- she is so amazing!
Been waiting for you to so this one
I caught up, yay!
First time watching this episode I half expected Delenn's order of End This would see Lennier pull off another "bonehead manoeuvre"
Love this episode
I was always a little iffy on the revenge motive, given that ultimately the Shadows left voluntarily…
They did, but their helpers never got a say in that. Even though the Shadows ultimately made the choice _for themselves_, it was the other races of the alliance who pushed the Shadows to this decision, thus leaving the Drakh without their mentors.
Not only that, but Delenn showing up with a telepathic Death Star is going to make the Drakh a bit mad at her.
Which language were the Drakh using-Light, Dark, or Grey?
The differences between the languages can be construed as formality, jargon, and vernacular.
I can say the same thing three different ways: Military jargon ("Bug out!"); Vernacular ("Let's get out of Dodge!"); or Formal ("We must use haste in our departure"). Same message, but three levels of understanding.
Formality is the one most discernable to all three levels, but is flowerly and inefficient. Jargon is the opposite: brutally quick at getting the message across, but is practically a coded language.
I'm sure john has done a lot more than "rub off" on her
A lot of Delenn's mentality and attitude was influenced by Dukat. He was just the same.
Yah!
Here's a question. Have you ever thought about getting some Friends together and doing a short ten minute scary, spooky Video for Your Channel?
Ah yes, the skin dancing which combined with the random Minbari chap really made this episode fall a bit flat for me. It feels like filler somehow?
Welcome back!