What If Toji HELPED US In Shibuya
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- With Jujutsu Kaisen season 2 episode 16's release, I wanted to make ONE MORE VIDEO of Toji, before he's truly gone. Today, we're gonna imagine.... What if the REAL TOJI helped the sorcerers and allied with them during the Shibuya Incident arc?? Obviously, lots of changes are needed to make this hypotheical scenario possible! Throughout this "What If possibility" Toji would've saved a BUNCH OF LIVES, prevent character deaths, casualties, etc... Fights such as, Toji VS Jogo, Toji VS Mahito and Toji VS Kenjaku would happen! So multiple things and little parts would alter from the original story. Let me know what you guys think in the comments!
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When granny said "Save sorcerer society for 10$ and a lottery ticket,fushigoro toji!" I cried,it was truly the jujustu of all kaisen
Nah I will
@@sam5626Nah I'd win
“Stand proud sukuna I got 10$”
@@actuallymerlinffffffffcffccttccfcfcfcfcfffcffffccfcffffccfcfffcf
Wouldn’t expect this comment from anyone but a Shirou Pfp
"toji,if ya help us,gojo bank account is yours"
"Bet."
"WOAH WOAH WOAH I DIDN'T AGREE TO THAT GIVE IT BACK TOJI"
@@Swaggamer2021 no this my money now
What's Gojo gonna do lol he was in the Prison Realm
"To bad satoru gojo I have the money and your in a box what can you do"
@@bautistacicinelli4527 He comes out, takes the money back and goes back in the realm😂
If Kenjaku met Toji, I wouldn't mind Geto's consciousness taking hold of his own body out of sheer anger at seeing Riko's killer again. It'd be quite meta since both aren't really themselves at this point.
yeah, except Geto's brain is gone. beyond that i would love it (toji solos again)
@@funnybones98 The show kinda put more emphasis on the soul than the brain anyway.
Like how Toji when resurrected was technically using someone else's brain but still had access to his own memories.
@@cleanerwhite9470 yeah, i guess that is true
@@funnybones98..and we see geto react when gojo mocks him for letting kenjaku control his body.
@@verum9when
bro said "us" in the title like we were there dying too 😭
we were, emotionally
We did die there. Mentally
Let's be honest, we totally were with the pain from every single character death 😭😭
we got reincarnated and ejected from esekai, now we're all salarymen
I mean if Toji were to help anyone it'd probably be gojo since he seemed pleasantly surprised that megumi still had his fushiguro name and wasn't zenin so im sure he appreciated gojos actions. And he showed up in gojos inner monologue while he was talking to geto, if he knew what was happening and wasn't a zombie it might not be entirely unreasonable
Yeah, that makes sense.
toji would hate gojo. toji had a lot of pride, obviously, and it was completely crushed by gojo three times in a row. toji would help megumi, but not gojo
@@dant3mustntdie toji says he "thought he threw away his pride" so I mean it seems he values pride but not enough to hate gojo for killing him maybe salty but not hate.
@@dant3mustntdie No he wouldnt hate him as why would he hate the guy who looked after the single thing he gave a f about?
Nah he would straight up fight Gojo and try to take his life for stealing his drip🤣🤣🤣
I feel like it should also be stated that Jogo has had a incredible track record of underestimating his enemies, and with a 0 CE user, that would be even worse
seriously he would lose track of toji and be unable to sense him it would be a repeat of what he did to gojo
and frankly jogo and toji is not a one-sided fight in either direction
True but if Jogo tries Domain he gets fucked instantly@@xum0007
Why do they always clap jogo i feel so bad for him😭😭
@@ARYANJEE-uu3qe Poor guy always picks fights above his paygrade
Toji being there would single handedly save the main characters from a shit ton pain and suffering. Plus a certain fradualent predator wouldn't take over megumi.
Sukuna's not a fraud...
@@sageoverheaven ik I am just making jokes lol
@@abel9888yeah halfjo would still be gojo rn.
@@sageoverheaven he would've lost if it weren't for the mahoraga
still on this shit huh, its just pitiful at this point@@Dave_of_Mordor
Toji and Mei Mei would be one hell of a 'mercenary for hire' group
Mei Mei is trash, better hope it doesn't come to jobs with powerful special grade curses
@@dusk6159 Bro its because they are both the most money driven characters in the story not because of their power levels
Toji's price would at least be reasonable, but Mei Meis?........
@@MuttonEraseToji would kill someone for 2 bucks and a Large Coke from McDonalds,Mei Mei probably charges like 100k
@@ImWorldwideLevelLMAO
Honestly I think Toji would absolutely curb-stomp Mahito since it was said Mahito was pretty young and a new curse without much experience near the start of the series, or in other words a child, and we all know Toji gets an x100 multiplier on his strength when fighting teens or kids.
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Real 💀💀
damn this made me laugh so much
mahito is 1 year old
Mahito would have a tough time transfiguring Toji's soul, remember that the body is a part of the soul and vice versa. Toji's soul must be superhumanly strong given his superhuman body.
And toji has immunity to sure hits on a Domain Expansion
@@Nana-ng1kzdepends on the domain.
There are domain that affects you by tracking your cursed energy. But there are some that affects everything inside the barrier.
Gojo,jogo,mahito,sukuna are exemples affect anything inside
either it would take him many tries..like 30-40s or it wouldnt work at all. like sukuna. it is stated that maki can sense the souls of not only people but also inanimate objects. so doubt transifiguation would work.
@@luanlinhares1707gojos doesn’t everyone but sukunas doesn’t wit r u on
@@luanlinhares1707from what we know only sukuna’s domain can work on him
People gotta understand that Toji is not a fighter like Maki he is an assassin and will use any underhanded method to win. Give him the right weapons and time to prepare and he will kill anything.
i feel like at the sight of kenjaku or to him geto he would fight for a bit but then when he realizes this is a fight he cant win he would probably back off and either retrieve a better weapon or wait for the others to wear him down then just jump in and start pummeling him maybe even cause geto to fight against kenjaku like gojo did when in the prison toji is very smart and he wouldnt just jump into a fight he knows he cant win
Bro what prep time is toji getting here? He’s not Batman my guy 😭
@@BK-km6zl the only reason he defeated gojo the first time they fought was because of prep time
@@freezeguy1295 this is during the shibuya arc where 1, he doesn’t have any of his tools, and 2, he’s literally just been revived like, at most a day ago
@@BK-km6zl 1. doesn’t mean shit if he doesn’t have any weapons infact it’s better because then he can be pushed to obtain one somehow
2. It doesn’t matter if he was just revived if his mind is intact he will obviously not jump into fights he knows he can’t win so he will try to find ways to win it
if toji was normal, all it would take is "yo if you help us ill give you 100 bucks and a lottery ticket" and hes up and fighting
Realest thing ever
He literally only could've made one difference. Killing Mahito.
That would have had huge implications as it means Kenjaku wouldn't have been able to use idle transfiguration to activate the culling games.
maybe yes or no, because he didn't possess soul splitting sword at that moment, unless he brute force his way destroying Mahito souls using Playing cloud. Which I love to see this alternate universe
@@muhammadkhairiaimran6218 to be fair Maki can sense souls and stuff and given that Toji literally *is* a soul taking over a body at that point its not too hard to imagine he would be aware of souls, fucking lmao
@@Pokemaster-wg9gx
Toji is NOT a soul taking over a body, it's the opposite. The grandma only summoned Tojis body, not his soul. But because Tojis body is unique due to his heavenly restriction he overpowered the grandchilds soul. The soul lost to the body.
And we also learned a couple episodes before that the soul and body are connected, due to Getos body trying to choke whoever is controlling it.
@@muhammadkhairiaimran6218
Given that Mahitos technique likely won't work on Toji, because Toji is a body without a soul right now, I think Toji wins 100%
His body overpowered the grandchilds soul and took over, meaning, even if Mahito deforms the grandchilds soul, Tojis body will still contain it. So Mahito can't deform Tojis body right now because Tojis soul is not present.
And as you said, Mahito can be brute force killed, just gotta damage him so much that he runs out of cursed energy from restoring his body over and over again.
And I believe Toji, with playful cloud, can accomplish that pretty handily honestly.
@@ardynizunia9709Mahito would lose 100% even without taking into account the uniqueness of Toji's situation since it's fucking Toji. How the hell is he gonna beat Toji if he couldn't beat Nanami and Yuji.
What people tend to forget ist that Kenjaku didn't use any special grades against Yuki after she destroyed the first one, meaning he is a lot more dangerous than one would think
and then there's takaba... rofl
@@luluczs can't believe takaba has every isekai's true mc as his ally
@@luluczs "Man wouldn't it be funny if I just one shot Kenjaku lmao"
Yeah that’s crazy to think after he handled that 2v1 I like to think the only point in that fight kenjaku felt he might loose is when yuki dead Ass created a mini black hole even then his super human reactions and thinking saved his ass 😂
@@orbitxgalaxy697 not to mention that Kaori's cursed technique anti gravity system was the perfect counter against black holes
Toji kills all disaster curses. Toji not just physcially gifted but also his battle IQ is no joke
1 touch of Jogo & Mahito will end him ....
@@clashwithbijoy8825 really, so why are todo and yuji still alive?
@@doriyahhyuji main character plot todo the fraud got one touch mahito. And that fraud lose his Arm
@@clashwithbijoy8825HR user have cursed resistant
@@abinashtech4036Todo the fraud? Dude literally took on a disaster curse and nearly made them run away (Nanami). "Plot" for Yuji is wild considering before he was whooping Mahito anyways. If a PRE-AWAKENED Maki can survive it and Panda and others dodge can dodge Jogo's "ultimate move" then Toji would absolutely stomp both Jogo and Mahito lol
"If you kill every curse in Japan i'll give you Gojo's credit card"
"Bet"
What if Toji actually came back?, well he becomes the MC for the second part of Shibuya, which I'm sure Gege thought about doing
And Toji ain’t as OP as Gojo so Gege has less reason to hate him or write against him.
@@myusername3689I would like to see toji come back to give yuji some advice on hand2hand then leave again lol
Gege never wrote against Toji, though@@myusername3689
I want toji to have a father son moment with megumi if that happens
@@myusername3689lol wdym he's not As op as gojo, he's definitely strong like gojo
Something I'd absolutely love to see post shibuya-arc would be Megumi and Toji actually talking to each other about how their lives up until this point, and Maki trying to get Toji to teach her his ways.
Sukuna will probably fulfill that wish soon 😂
@@lucky4176 sukuna fulfilled that wish right when kashimo jumped in
Oh lord. That is not happening the manga. In fact, Megumi's suffering is going to increase ten fold.
Any Toji not wanting to teach 😂
I would recommend The Phantom Guardian by MissingN000, Toji lives after the Hollow Purple but has amnesia so he mistakes Maki as his daughter and essentially adopt her.
most ppl saying Sukuna would kill him are right but Jogo would get killed by Toji before he can awaken Sukuna
Jogo would destroy Toji
@@ShinyAzzytoji claps jogo.
@@om9959 Give me an evidence
@@ShinyAzzy What evidence do you have for Jogo? We've seen Toji destroy a disaster curse, teen Gojo, Megumi. We saw Maki annihilate an entire clan while injured and comfortably beat cursed Naoya. The only W Jogo has taken against sorcerers is not even killing already injured Nanami, Maki and Naobito (immediately).
We also know Toji is fast enough to kill Naobito easily, and Dagon believes Naobito is faster than Jogo. Also we know that if Jogo had taken those hits from Todo w/ playful cloud + Yuji's black flashes, he would've died instantly. Toji scales WAY above both of them in physical strength. He would get his shit rocked by playful cloud while finding it difficult to land a clean hit on Toji. Toji could also take far more hits than any of the other sorcerers could from Jogo.
@@shepardice3775
Megumi is able to react to Toji and stated that his SPEED not power is equal to 3 fingers Sukuna and Jogo is way faster than Megumi and stronger than 3 finger Sukuna so he wouldn't get speed blitz has enough in his arsenal to kill toji and he wouldn't even need his domain or maximum technique. Jogo is not even trying to kill those three and if not for him sensing Sukuna they would have died.
Toji is not hitting as hard as a black flash Itadori and definitely will not be able to deal with Jogo techniques who could easily burn him alive.
"10 bucks if you help us out"
"Lmfao add a Big Mac and you got a deal"
"We remove your child support debt from your name."
*"Say no more."*
*ends Shibuya incident easily*
@@taxcollector9543 Bro would 1v2 Gojo and 20 fingers Heian Sukuna at the same time for that (probably the entire verse ngl)
Ino was the only one who suffered from Toji’s hands on the sorcerers’ side lmao
Also I just realized Yuji’s basically replaced by Toji as the MC for Shibuya in this scenario
The Toji who fucked up Ino wasnt even Tiji himself lol.
As it should! 😤 toji is 100% better protagonist than yuji.
Or if gege could he would give toji a Spin off Series all about toji, that would be cool
@@Nana-ng1kzdude, stop downplaying our boy like that
@@hero303-gameplayindonesia8 nah hes right Yuji is weak
@@keshi5541weaker character doesn’t mean better protag
This is the 1st what if video I've seen where almost all possibilities are well thought out. I didn't even think about Toji not having all his weapons available as a factor to consider.
Really well crafted video in general.
Jogo would be complaining as always. Why does he always have to get the strongest opponents
Jogo when “What if Goku HELPED US in Shibuya?” comes out:
@@TheManDudeblud is beyond cooked 🔥🔥
@@TheManDudewhat if Gege helped us in Shibuya
what if saitama helped us in shibuya
I think we are missing something very important with what just happened with Toji and the grandson. Its probably connected to how Sakuna, Kenjaku and tengen body jumping situations, and they were monks like the granny. That guy with the shiesty seemed like he figured something out in the manga as well after getting folded.
Aka be a monk if your in the jjk verse to be op
@@runningoutofnames3CS i just realized that it is probably how Kenjaku made Sakuna a cursed object in the first place, then these techniques get passed down thru the bloodlines like the granny and Shiesty Kid, Kamos, Zennins. Kenjaku is sick asf and been at it along time.
Sukuna, Kenjaku and Tengen were monks? The Granny (who was literally an Assassin) was a monk?What gave you that idea?
@@OK-yy6qzthe beads in her hands
This is a scenario I've been thinking about for a while and, all things considered, you've really managed to deliver in a way that was pretty enjoyable while also making sense for Toji's character.
One thing I was thinking about while you were at the "All sorcerers vs Kenjaku" route at the end was the possibility of Kenjaku managing to barely escape it, much like Mahito during his fight with Yuji and Nanami. No doubt he would need to sacrifice many curses from his arsenal, and possibly even leaving Uraume behind as well, but considering he should already have Mahito in his possession, the idea of Kenjaku putting all his efforts into making sure he can survive to put the Culling Game into motion is the one the makes the most sense to me.
With that in mind, It be cool if you could make a part 2 covering how Toji would fit into the cast past the Shibuya Incident and subsequently the Culling Game arc.
Great idea
Megumi: If you don’t kill us and help out instead. I’ll cover your debt.
Toji: SOLD, SON!
i loved it when granny said "stand proud gojo, you have 10 dollars" it was so inspirational
" What if Toji regularly paid his child support "
bro said US like he part of the team 😂
I love how you put Toji's head over idadori's body, it made me laugh and wished there was more
so basically if you dont kill of an OP character, he becomes the MC. interesting
True, or the villain, like if he didn't kill himself when fighting Megumi
1:58 Kenjaku mouth move as he said
Real
What if Sukuna takes all of Megumi’s curse energy & Megumi becomes a Toji with heavenly restrictions? Could Sukuna even occupy a heavenly restricted vessel?
Heavenly restriction doesn't use curse energy, can't use curse energy, technique, domain, sukuna would not be able to use it in megumi body
Keep in mind that Toji's heavenly restriction is just one kind of heavenly restriction. Kokichi had one that was almost the opposite in the pros and cons. There are probably even more variety in heavenly restriction.
Man, your thumbnail is funny to me for some reason; it's like Toji is being forced or bribed to save Gojo and picture on the right is his reaction😂😂😂
Forget the video, who is "us"? ☠️ Bro think we in the anime🙅🏾♂️🙅🏾♂️🙅🏾♂️
smartass 😐
Nah Bro I call toji
Good video, but the outcome of Toji vs. Jogo depends on whether we're doing manga or anime. The anime added a lot to Jogo's fight with Sukuna. Jogo can superheat large areas, blast a laser from his head-crater, and deploy enormous waves of lava in an AoE attack. He can also manipulate said lava to push together buildings, and Maximum: Meteor is shown to have a gravitational effect similar to Gojo's Blue. Meanwhile, the anime buffs Toji's speed, or at least makes it more apparent.
Manga, Toji probably does take Jogo. He can easily dodge Jogo's blasts. The Ember Insects might be a little difficult for him to handle because they spawn from Jogo's head and can track, but with his speed he can probably smash them with Playful Cloud before they impact. Jogo is not as durable as Dagon, so no trouble there.
Anime, we have a bit of a problem because Toji can still burn. He won't have to worry about direct blasts or Ember Insects, and as a rule he's too fast for any of Jogo's heavy attacks to hit. He'll be able to evade the lava flows and endure the heat (probably), but if Jogo surrounds himself with lava than Toji can't approach, and he has no ranged attack with cursed energy. So you'll have a stalemate where neither one of them can land a decisive hit. Overall Toji still has the advantage, but if he doesn't immediately grapple Jogo and start speed-striking, he'll lose his chance. A stalemate is still enough to prevent Jogo from awakening Sukuna and it leaves the 4 sorcerers to jump Haruta (fodder) and Mahito (they could do it). Todo will find Itadori and bring him back. Kenjaku + Uraume still fold everyone until Yuki shows up tho (and probably sends Garuda to deal with Jogo).
Extreme-long term: Not much changes. Toji is around for the Culling Games (especially if somebody pays him to take Jujutsu High's side) and obviously he will violate basically all the competitors. He complicates the Maki v. the Zen'in arc (not sure what he'd do.) Nanami probably lives to participate as well. That said, Kenny and Uraume still probably escape with the Prison Realm. Toji might help Megumi go after Tsumiki. Sukuna still gets into Megumi, binds Mahoraga, everything else pretty much unfolds as it already has.
Most based take on toji vs jogo, I'd lean it more in jogos favour of were going off the anime, mostly due to the lava limbs probably being able to crush toji, and that I don't believe he can tank the Lava
@@thefarmer6541 i mean, sukuna did just stand there and take it, im pretty sure toji would just move. For the fastest disaster curse, all of jogos moves are kinda slow
It’s not that deep bro. Toji beats jogo midd diff at the hardest
@@thefarmer6541 jogo attacks literally only look intimidating, they hit nobody lmao. his fucking ultimate move can be dodged by panda who was forced to stay until the last second by sukuna. Fighting against toji who was never the type to play around like sukuna ? jogo is getting 28 stabs in the head before pulling any of his splashy move, end of story. Jogo anime fight was awesome don't get me wrong, but anything it showed that he was desparated and just threw all of his attacks ineffeciently. The only contest that jogo is winning against toji is probably mass genocide, bruh.
@@greener2497 what? panda and kusakabe dodged the meteor? i thought they were teleported out by sukuna
amazing topic you picked to discuss!
Gojo really be fighting a boss level enemy at early game
I think when Toji enters Dagon's domain, he would have some mixed feelings immediately because one of the heads of the zen'in clan - with megumi? Toji would think that Megumi got successfully sold off to the zen'in clan
One thing I feel is important is that Gojo's blue in Shinjuku Showdown is far stronger than the blue of Hidden Inventory Gojo. The output, speed, and refinement should be far superior compared to Gojo's blue. Also, Gojo has far more experience using blue in Shinjuku Showdown than Hidden Inventory Gojo.
HI Gojo was incredibly cocky and assumed the strongest position along with Geto but didnt have the real strength to back it up against anomalies and actual strong foes (Toji, Yuki could beat Gojo pre enlightenment, and Yuki should have Domain Expansion, so she might beat Gojo even post enlightenment as he didnt have Domain Expansion at the time) while SS Gojo really was the strongest or at least the second strongest in the entire verse, being able to beat most of the verse alone.
This is the comment I was looking for , that comparison was incredibly faulty, pre enlightenment , pre rct , most likely any black flash gojo against current gojo is a wideeee gap.
One thing i do want you to note is that
Blue brings forth negative space into reality.
Applying more cursed energy makes the effect larger (I.E the negative space spawns in larger amounts) or mastering the technique makes it take far less CE
Because once you add negative space into reality, the world itself tries to compensate for the negative space with positive space (real space that is visible) effectively pulling the person into the area negative space spawned in
This is universal. The speed of pull was always equal. But the way gojo used it became different. He could apply blue to himself to teleport. He could choose only a certain ppl to pull and mastered the technique so he can use it on an atomic scale
So speed of pull isnt any different. Just that the one used vs sukuna was much more mastered and sukuna was also off guard because he was bleeding im sure
Gojo has Falling Blossom Emotion so the domain wouldn't be decisive
Im pretty sure it was stated that when the granny used her technique she said toji zennin wich is the name he used before he met his wife, so she brought the body of toji in his prime (against gojo he was rusty), since when meating his wife he would have slowed down on the killing and after his wife died he went gambling and destroy his body with alchool type shit
thats why he looked so much stronger then when he fought gojo
That wouldn't make sense, how would he know megumi is his son then
@@MommiesMan21 Wierd soul powers, since he overwrote the cursed technique with his aura alone bro prolly got the loophole of having present memories and past powers
Wow this sure is detailed :)
It made me understand the original plot as well as some other characters actions and why
We really need more vids like this
this is like the butterfly effect just the instance of waiting 10 extra seconds prevents the deaths of thousands
Well if he did feel somewhat indebted to Gojo for raising Megumi away from the Zenin, then I guess I could see it. He’d definitely tip the scales in the good guys favor and would probably be able to at least box with Kenjaku. Not to mention making mince-meat of Jogo and Mahito.
One thing that wasnt mentioned is the possibility of sukuna using enchain if the curses were about to loose to take over megumi right then. Wouldve been wraps for toji and everyone else if that happened.
Yeah,but Sukuna was waiting to use Enchain when Megumi lost his will to live or was mentally unstable. That is why he used hit after his sister was revealed to be a incarnate
Sukuna wouldve done so a long time ago if he could just pop enchain and take over Megumi anytime. Remember, when Sukuna took over Megumi, Megumi was at full HP and perfect condition (infact he was about to summon Mahoraga)
Sukuna during Shibuya didnt know about Mahoraga (during Shibuya, he only found out AFTER he fought Mahoraga), meaning hed just wait till a good opportunity to use enchain and take over Megumi. If he could have done so especially when near Angel and Megumi, he can definitely do so anytime as long as Gojo isnt around.
@@agendawanker he would probably do it since the situations changed and he wouldn’t even need megumi cause he only used ten shadows against Gojo.
Sukuna stated himself he sensed Megumi's potential to be a vessel, but didn't want to end up being caged. So he had to wait for Megumi's soul to be weak, due to a moment of despair, and THEN he took Megumi over.
5 finger sukuna gets clapped by toji wdym
A new fan of the series here. My observation was like they wouldn't be in that situation if only the JJK sorcerers eliminated the villains in the first place, like Gojo to Jogo and Nanamin to Haruta, i know it's the series's plot but man, the cursed spirits gain more power once they got away.
In this scenario, Mai would've survived, since Toji coming back to the Zenin clan alongside with Maki would legit make every single zenin to shiver their timbers, Maki's awakening would take longer tho, the whole deal with the twin thing is that their growth is limited by their other twin's growth as well, so Mai would need to get stronger, and alongside Megumi, Maki, and the heavenly restricted demon himself she could get stronger, if Mai had time to train she could take away Maki's cursed energy without dying due to the wounds caused by her father or they would just get stronger together and Maki should be able to unlock her heavenly restriction's full potential. And with this the Zenin clan would change for the better, with Naobito injured he would probably choose a new Hei for the clan, which would be Megumi, if he heard his father's history, and knowing how they treated Maki he would change the clan for the better, putting an end to the discrimination in the clan for good.
This Was Such A Well Thought Out Video
You bringing back toji and saving character has gotten u into geges hitlist
My guy turned the what if Togi was alive video to what if Toji was the MC 😂
great analysis and it covers most angles too
Thank you!
@@FakeWeebAm a bit late but about the last part I feel like kenjaku and Uraume would still win as the only reason the tomb of the star was a high diff fight was because of tengen if it hadn't been for tengen Yuki would have most likely tried to clash domains with kenjaku which would end in kenjaku winning and yuki would die off the sure hit of kenjaku's domain
Although i didnt watch the video, i have MAD respect for you cuz u showed that there were manga spoilers, i really respect that man. Youve earned a sub
Thats a really good video man!
Im gonna be honest i hate people talking but ur the only person i really watched and fully listen to the full vid.
I honestly think there’d be a round 2 with Kenjaku and Toji with support from Yuki or Yuta and Megumi. I think Kenjaku would get away in the first encounter and then like how it occurred in the recent killing of Kenjaku, Toji would devise a plan like the OG Sorcerer Assassin he is on how to kill Kenjaku, much like how he used strategy to try and kill Gojo.
Menu I uses Domain Expansion to negate a curse techniques then he just runs up and pummels him probably. No spirits is an issue there.
I'm an toji fan and this makes me proud
I just realized, so toji goes for the strongest near by, so megumi is stronger than naobito zenin, since toji went for him instead of naobito
Keep in mind Naobito was weakened to the point he couldn’t dodge Jogo. That and Toji likely recognized Naobito and that’s why he didn’t go for him.
@@papelhat4265 I doubt toji recognized him, but yea he probably didn't go for naobito because he was weakened
Bro lost his arm 💀
@@-Gamerly- skill issue on his part ngl
Tbf, Naobito was down an entire arm and drunk as fuck as well as an old geezer.
I love how this guy showes tojis true strenght. The awekened gojo was at least skibidi toilet sigma
Jogo is a very battle oriented spirit but the main thing he's lacking is combat experience. He'd never fought an opponent like Toji and he wouldn't know how to deal with his heavenly restrictions. If he survived a loss with Toji I would be very interested to see what he would learn and how he would grow afterwards.
I'd like to imagine what happens when they fight kenjaku and megumi decides to summon general mahoraga
probably mahoraga shuts up megumi [like he did]and then we have a beast roaming between sorcerrers ,it depends what it does and if its against kenny then bye bye kenny[it will take time to adapt every technique of kenny] and kenny dies ,megumi dies leaving all the others to safely walk away until toji,yuki,choso decides to save megumi which i think will not be possible.
I think if things went south Kenjaku probably wouldn't fight a whole group of sorcerers and would retreat. He is really an opportunist. He would look for another plan even if it took another thousand years lol.
Oh, and I always understood completely differently.
I thought, The curse technique of that grandma constantly burns the cursed energy of the person she summoned.
And once it reaches zero, the summoned person leaves the body of that guy.
So, because Toji had no cursed energy in general, her curse technique will never stop working, and Toji can stay in that body forever.
Which would also mean he went on a rampage solely because he wanted to fight, and that's it.
But it seems my interpretation was wrong?
no you were right. this is actually exactly what happened and it's explained in the manga too. since toji didn't have any cursed energy to begin with, it couldn't run out, and the technique kinda glitched and he got to stay in that body. he was just going off of pure fighting instinct, fighting whoever was the strongest until the body couldn't handle it anymore and broke. the sole reason this whole scenario wouldn't work is because it would be impossible to make him cooporate with anyone as he was operating on instinct. only megumi was able to get him to resist the urge to fight and that's why he k1lled himself
@@nightcracker8077 Wasn't it that last command the grandma gave him that caused him to go berserk? "kill all sorcerers".
@@MuttonErase I don't think so. I think his body is special, so it can take over that guy but without his soul summoned, he cannot fully control it so it went rampage
@@MuttonErase he said to grandma like why the hell would he obey her command
"Nah I'd win" -Jogoat
Love the video however there are 2 extra factors that I think would have contributed to the fight with Kenjaku. 1: Sukuna would likely use his "enchain" binding vow to help Kenjaku and Uraume and 2: Inumaki would join the fight since he wouldn't have lost an arm due to Sukuna's domain.
Yo bro I loved this video but I think we should go with route 3 and kenjaku survives and kicks off the culling games and we see toji in the culling games and see what you think would happen personally I think I should make that a video ❤
Bro thanks for doing this vid I been searching for so long
Also it would be even harder for toji to kill kenjaku due to him probably being injured from the previous fights
he wont be injured man you seriously think toji would get injured fighting jogo and mahito it would be an exception, toji is exceptionally fast and with his strength as mentioned in the video there is no way he would be exhausted or damage and i honestly dont think maki is at the level of toji rn she is close but still weak man toji is freakin menace if you have read the manga maki didnt gave as much energy in the plots like toji
Toji wouldn't start fighting dagon and everyone else out of nowhere. He doesn't kill for free.
Keep up the great content my man 🫡
Man, I love this alternate scenario.
Could be a what if animatio by youtubers.
Dang nice.
If Toji enters Jogo’s domain, he might be killed by the sheer temperature. Temperature is not a sure hit, just a result of the domain being a volcano. The temperature of Jogo’s domain is the same concept of Dagon’s domain being sunny cuz of the domain is a sunny beach. They’re both natural byproducts of the environment.
Toji would just leave
He would just walk out of it tho. It’s not a big deal for him. It’s a midd diff fight for toji at the hardest
1. Toji would leave. 2. Toji would blitz. 3. Itadori was there for a solid minute and was not burned, what makes you think Toji will?
@@atlas1542 he wasn’t burned because he was protected by Gojo’s cursed energy.
@@inremugiwara6449I doubt that temperature would be hot enough to kill toji cause we know how insane is toji durability and he simply can just "damm this so place getting real hot I'mma head out"
Corrections:
1.About Toji not having IOSH is understandable but Souk split Katana? Maki have copy of it and Toji can take it from her as he did with playful clouds.
2.Toji's strongest version is his 18 y.o state, when child Naoya saw him at the first time. Toji himself said that he become old and rusty in the hidden inventory arc.
Rampage Toji is his his version of hidden inventory arc but without his assassin style, that's it there's no changes he always been that strong.
But 18 y.o Toji was even stronger from 1,5 to 2× times difference.
Didnt maki get soul split katana copy from mai in culling game arc?
Really greate video man these fits well 🗿
When Gojo defeated Toji he wished to take care of Megumi, Gojo did and I think he's ready to help unseal him for that
I think you’re underestimating how many strong cursed spirits kenjaku has&overestimating how strong the students are in comparison to his arsenal. I don’t see a tired toji who would’ve just got done going high diff with mahito beating Kenjaku&Uraume even with support on his side. The smart thing Kenjaku would do is summon like 2 special grade curses to deal with the students& 2v2 toji/Yuki with Uraume.
That’s true but we can also factor in the fact that Yuki can very quickly handle those curses for the students, then get back on the fight with Kenjaku. Remember, Kenjaku said all the high grade curses he has left after Shibuya were USELESS against Yuki. One of them being the Ganesha type curse and Yuki quickly handled it. If those curses are giving the students trouble, I’m sure Yuki would be fine handling them quickly, then get back with Toji and Choso
@@FakeWeebcouldn’t Sukuna just Chant enchain or whatever and swap with Yuji for like 1 minute, that’s a lot for the students to deal with on top of Uraume and kenjaku. Even if Sukuna is only at 5 finger he still bodies a lot of the students.
@@aceli4043 I am pretty sure Sukuna wouldnt do anything even if he did enchain because its a contract between Sukuna and Yuji and basically the contract doesnt allow Sukuna to harm to other people around him
@@FakeWeebplus toji wouldn't be so tired at long since Maki "regenerated" in 5 mins against naoya
You just said High Diff Mahito LMAO thats crazy. Toji low diffs both Mahito and Jogo if this is 1v1 in a row. Mid diff if 2v1. Other than that, he's on par if not slightly lower than Kenjaku due to his cursed spirit spam, but that's it. With Yuki? Yeah, GG's.
i don't know if anyone mentioned it before, but you forgot a very important consequence of toji defeating jogo. that consequence is that the 10 sukuna's fingers wouldn't be on jogo's possession anymore, since they were with him when he sensed that other one finger nanako and mimiko gave to yuji
what i'm trying to say is that one of the sorcerers in the scene (nanami, megumi, naobito, maki or even toji) could now take the fingers in order to give to yuji to eat it
i guess it would chance things even more
16:02 toji would be able to be in similar or higher speed than, and naoya was perspective blitzing Yuji. Mahito is deftly getting at least overwhelmed very quick
Ngl if this happened I want to know if Geto is still in Kenjaku’s body somewhere since Kenjaku would be fighting the one man who both sent Geto down this path and lives rent free in his head 24/7
The latest anime episode should put to bed all the toji/maki vs jogo debate. Man was melting the whole city
They're faster, Stronger, and frankly smarter. If panda and co can dodge that end technique Toji and Maki are mopping Jogo. Also they can just run on it anyways and have enough strength to take the heat of it anyways
"Toji,if u help us,ill help u play child support"
"Alr bet."
This seems better writen than the real shibuya arc XD
Absolutely not 💀
Toji kaisen
Nah all you’d have to do was say “if you help us I’ll give you a cent” and he’ll get to work
I think toji would have helped if things happened alittle differently. If jogo had appeared right after they left dagons domain, toji would have gone after jogo. That would have prevented jogo from giving sukuna the fingers.
bro killed himself to continue his lottery in heaven
If you have front of Prison Relam You can Just say Gate open and trapped person is freed
Damn when you think about kenjaku only being around mahito so much to make sure he can absorb him is diabolical.
We could've had Toji vs Sukuna, and it would've been amazing 👏. If Gege ever wants to draw/write Jujutsu Kaisen What If...?
that would only make toji look weak
Lmao no
it'll literally be like sukuna vs jogo and since toji doesn't have the cooler curse tools. He can't even land a single hit before getting dismantled 😢
5F Sukuna vs Toji
@@lightblast4 sukuna would have been pummeled to death probably even easier than dagon
Strongest version of Toji is hidden inventory. Dudes a monster
in my oppinion if i could change the story so that the real toji could come we could change the story to toji ran away bc im pretty sure it was stated he knew he wasnt going to win he just wanted to see how he would put up againts gojo and then he comes back or is near shibuya and he helps fight and then he would have the inverted spear of heaven split soul katanna ect bc he ran away from gojo and he still had the inventory curse but thats just my opinion
"yo toji, help us and we'll give you half of gojo's bank accou-"
" *Where do i start?* "
There should be a part two like
How would Toji affect the story AFTER shibuya
This is basically what would've happened if Mechamaru had let the Kyoto students go to Shibuya because Mai would probably have died awakening maki
So, what you're saying is, Togi magically beats everyone
Toji is strong but he not Goku
@@TJBlack3.5I hope no one actually thinks toji is stronger than Goku 😭
@@nicknuts3213 the ONLY way I'd see him beat goku is if we say that the inverted spear of heaven (i hope that's the name) effects ki like it does cursed energy and catches goku off guard lol. Otherwise nah.
@@desk_fan_chan even if, goku would just tank it as he is like city-planetary at his base rn
@@deepfishlivin that's a fair point
What bout the soul splitting sword? [If that's the right name I forgot] since it just ignores durability and goes for the soul
The 300 decibel out of place meme sounds are the absolute worst and best part of the video. Please keep using them
Be honest toji would know his son would be the next clan head because of his CT so he might help his son if he makes a deal with him to get a curse weapon or something after he becomes clan head
Also probably help just because his son might make the zenin clan where people like him and Maki can live in peace and that might be enough to get you on his side as well but at the end of the day toji loved his son in his own way and probably will help on that alone
Toji saving the man that blew a hole through his torso sounds funny
I think Toji only fights for megumi and he only finds out megumi is his son in 2 ways. Either everything ges the same untill he gets a close look and asks megumi his name or he mocks Nabito after the dagon fight and in that covnersation toji finds out megumi is his son.
In the first case he gets washed my sakuna as even if they are equal in stats sakunas domain is one of the only known domains that can target objects with no CE and so probabbly still hits Toji
OR scenario 2 where Toji washes Jogo Choso Mahito and probs beats 4 finger sakuna and then the heros probabbly win in a 6v1 (Mei Mei, Naobito, Toji, Todo, Megumi, Yuji) against kenjaku expecially if the fight goes on long enough that yuki shows up.
if Jogo is defeated, sukuna doesn't awaken. Yuji can eat 1 finger a day without losing control and the girls only had one finger. So unless Sukuna decided to use enchain (which would be dumb cuz the others might realize what happened), he stays domant
@@MuttonErase true I forgot that the girls weren't able to wake sakuna up with just one finger even though Yuji was KO
It would suck (character-development and story-wise) if Toji killed Choso. Choso is one of the best written characters in the series.
5:53 I i think toji wouldn't bother talking to her 💀
I think the most likely end point of this scenario is not Kenjaku loosing, but the retrieval of Prison Realm. It's likely that Kenjaku still escapes and is able to start the culling games, but the sorcerers still are able to get their hands on Gojo in the box
yeah which also makes it terrible yuta and yuki showed u later on when the prison realm was still locked in place i dont think he could fight either of those two while protecting sense even with domain all it would take is one point of contact to free gojo
Idk I'd say Mahito being killed (preventing the culling games from starting) is more likely than them retrieving the prison realm
I just don't see how Kenjaku would be able to get away, seeing as Megumi being there also means that if things got really bad, Mahoraga was always an option and Kenjaku just can't do anything about that
8:36
Toji with a gun is something i never thought i'd see.