‘Ruined my life’: Portland business owners shocked by notice to vacate building
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Businesses leasing space in a downtown Portland building were told suddenly and without explanation that they need to move out by the end of November.
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If a property management company can charge you a lease break fee, you should be able to charge a property management company for a lease break.
wouldn't that just be breach of contract?
@@1harrismccartyBreaking a lease IS a breach of contract and because of that, there's almost always a hefty fee to pay by whoever breaks it. So if they would do that to him/her (of course they would) then why can't he/she charge them a fee? 🤔 I think finding an attorney would be a smart thing to do.. one that only charges if the client wins. 🤨
You can. It's called suing them for breach of contract.
@@1harrismccarty It's not necessarily a breach of contract unless the landlord committed promissory estoppel or misrepresentation. Short of an email from the landlord promising anything outside the lease agreement that was signed, it'll be unlikely they'll win in court. Just because the lease agreement states it's for three-years doesn't mean it's a promise to have the space for three-years. Lots of leases have sale of premises clauses that allow eviction if sold and given proper notice (typically 30, 60, or 90 days), which sounds like 90 days by the tattoo artist's eviction. If it's not in the lease agreement, then it could be a breach of contract. If you're lucky, you can negotiate an early relocation assistance and early termination compensation clause. I'm not agreeing with the evictions, but I'm just saying this is how it legally works.
@@Sam11747 agreed. Many landlords propose 30 day notice and businesses need to redline that (to 90 days perhaps) before signing or they're screwed.
They should be forced to pay that man the cost of the remaining 2 years and 9 months on his lease as compensation for breaking the lease agreement.
He would have had to pay them if he did it to the owners of that building.
You know the owner would ruin his credit if it was the other way around 😏🇺🇸
@@deanfirnatine7814 100
True but likely the owner(s) and management company already thought of that and and had a waiver written into the contract....
Hear, Hear!
The company that owns the building is called The Downtown Development Group (DDG). They are a family of 4 or 5 brothers and some of the richest people in Portland. They own A LOT of buildings downtown. The company I worked for did consultant work for them for years and they were pretty much the only client I ever refused to work for because of how awful they were to interact with. Doesn't surprise me at all that they did this.
Who are they? What is the last name?
Eat the Rich
@@Bigfootbeliever2022The family name is Goodman. Ironic, as I highly doubt they are “Good Men”.
What POS people.. Figures, rich people don't give a fuq.
Oh man! These a holes! I worked for them through a temp agency. Tried to blame me for the network mess that they hired me to fix. Turned out that they were trying to get a huge wiring job done piecemeal. Was not impressed by the two owners I met. Greedy and nasty!
If they're being that closed lip about it whatever they're doing is going to be super unpopular.
I bet it got sold off to foreign investors.
....."loose lips spread s^^t".....
@@edgarpoe517 That was my initial thought as well. Selling the property to foreigners.
3 months in a 3 year lease, id sue!! Thats trash!!
i would absolutely sue the pants off them
@@bilcifer666 you know the lease terms?......you seriously think this long-time established RE company doesn't have this nailed down?
3 mos into a 3 yr lease? Read your lease carefully!
Well how about if the owners have language in their leases that stipulate they can end the lease at any time for any reason? ( standard legal terms)
@@AllStarSpitooner-h4r :)...Exactly! Working for property management companies for over 40 years...They don't write a lease with out having an escape clause...People sign stuff without understanding it.
Just wait for the "luxury condos"
for whhho? everyone leaving Portland unless its for the hom;less
Who is living in those three story skinny townhouses…they cost thousands and most people are broke from tax’s and gas and food?😔🇺🇸
My thought too,but also 15 minutes.
You mean "low cost" housing aka tax dollar subsidized.
@@kinvotime490 I would rather have tax subsidized housing than real estate companies buying up property and fixing rent even higher.
You rent so long it feels like its yours but you have just been buying it for someone else.
Sometimes there's no way out of that undertow.
But they’re forcing them to break a lease, which means those people should be charging the other ones who are forcing them to break it Fee and I hope it’s a hefty one!!
Imagine paying off your property and your taxes keep jumping from $5K to $10K to $15K annually. Because the government says so.
It has to do with money as everything does
Anyone can sell their property to anyone, even from overseas. Maybe the insurance went up for the owner, the owner died, the building is about to fall down or blow up….are there apartments up above ? if so do those people have to move ….
I'm so tired of people ruining Portland!😢
Greed for sure
Anything to destroy commerce.
Portland is the shining example of what _not_ to do.....about anything.
I'll tell you why this is happening my buddy owns a donut shop and he was kicked out by the owner of the building he ended up renting the same spot out to the Starbucks for more money and a longer lease so somebody is going to move into this guy's place probably corporate and paying more money
Ah, gotta love portland! Protecting criminals but not taxpayers.
Way to keep business in Portland. Shame on this building owner. Karma!
The tattoo shop guy said he was being asked to leave three months in to his three year lease? Anyone with a lease receiving an unfair eviction would get an attorney and have a judge stop it which leaves me wondering what is really going on here. The legacy of news is very lazy about these news snippets and not asking basic questions.
ALL WE HAVE IS EACH OTHER !!!!!!
There is probably a clause in the lease that allows the owners to break the agreement with no consequence.
Not everyone can afford to fight in court, aren't you privelaged to not be in need and on the offensive. I'm tired of these negating comments from people like you with nothing at stake.
@@gibbsrule9188 Everyone in that building to band together to fight in court and find a lawyer who is personally committed to stopping corporate investor takeover and will charge low fees.
The legacy news is lazy?
So you think the newer channels, actually our staff by hard hitting reporters.
No, they watched the lazy reports and then give you their opinion of them.
Don’t be ridiculous
How is that legal? If the you have a 3 year lease and the building owner can end it at any time, how does that make sense?
its probably in the small print that they can do it or something. i imagine even that should be illegal because its in bad faith
Well, you better read your lease!!
@@bilcifer666 ....but you have no facts and are just talking out of your axxzz, right?
@@AllStarSpitooner-h4r go home bill
@@AllStarSpitooner-h4r you have literally nothing to contribute
This is heart breaking WTH!
for those not from here, 2nd ave records is a Portland icon. This is unfortunate.
FUNNY SO WERE ALL THE STATUES YOU LET THE LIBS TEAR DOWN!!!!!!!!!!
When you sign a one year lease, you should not have expectations beyond a year.
As others may have said, businesses need to read their lease BEFORE signing. Redline stuff you don't like, such as eviction clauses. Nearly all leases have these clauses, and the default language is 30 days notice. Redline it to what you can live with, or rue the day....
Always hire a good commercial real estate attorney to go through your lease before signing. They cost an arm and a leg but always worth it.
......yeahhhhh.....it's like knowing how to tell a tree is an Aspen.....You know how to tell that a tree is an Aspen?......Because of the way it is........
I wouldn't doubt that they are gonna turn those store fronts into expensive apartments and them giving no reason why they are being evicted is the reason they are being so hushed about it.
Thats because you lack intelligence. Or this is SF now which you voted for 🤗
They need more space for illegal immigrants while we pay for it
Who wants to buy expensive apartments in portland? I thought it was crime ridden.
What good are leases if they can be broken at any time?
......yeahhhhh.....it's like knowing how to tell a tree is an Aspen.....You know how to tell that a tree is an Aspen?......Because of the way it is........
Good for Them, not you.
When you sign a lease you should have a penalty clause to cover this. But that can cost money to get included.
Take the building owners to court.. MAKE THEM PAY
The 1906 building appears to be listed in the City's cultural & historic resource inventory as the "Exchange Bldg." I believe, if this is the case (and if state law is followed), any demolition/significant alteration proposal is supposed to trigger special City planning review and hearings.
You know money can make it so they tear this down and put up new apartments for californians
@@TheSadistNat1on Sadly, yes, I know. Big Money gets whatever it wants. That's why I added, "if state law is followed" (In many Oregon cities, this law isn't followed anymore. Or, it's 'fudged.' Councils make real estate deals behind closed doors with developers and historic preservation isn't a type of law the State gov prioritizes enforcing).
Hopefully, the new council will have something to say about that.
WHICH THE OWNERS CAN BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Capohanf1 Aneurysm danger alert.
I do feel bad for those owners, but when negotiating a lease you have to FIGHT for YOUR OWN RIGHTS. Don't sign a one year lease if you wanna be there 3 years. Don't sign a 3 year lease without MASSIVE financial payouts by the landlord if they break it. You can't HOPE in negotiating. It's all about leverage.
No landlord would sign a lease costing them money when they break it.
Then you don’t sign it & you start your business somewhere else that offer a 3 year lease
If they have a lease, they should NOT be able to tossed out like that.
Now you know why all the small businesses were closed during covid. Not the large businesses.
If these business owners have a signed lease, they have certain rights. Might be too broke to get a good lawyer. Probably what the building owner is counting on.
And that alone should be looked at and investigated.
I feel ya but it really isn’t. Contracts are to be fought in a court of law, it sucks but if you don’t have the means to hire a lawyer you probably didn’t have the means to try and start a business.
It’s sad but it’s a fact of life. I would love everyone who did me wrong legally to get investigated but unfortunately civil matters are just that, civil matters.
Then find a college and ask for help from the law students.
Ask the teacher who he might refer . Go outside the box. Rich people never expect that.
Tattoo guy basically said he was living in his shop so, spot-on
No one said anything about eviction and/or eviction notices, only that these shop owners were "asked" to leave. Is that how it works in Portland?
I've been there with a landlord forcing tenants out of a building. The landlord broke the lease and required the premises to be vacated in 30 days. Fortunately, I only needed office space but a move on short notice leaves few options and is more costly. Being forced to relocate on short notice could lead to bankruptcy for a retail business.
Doesn’t the owner have to pay at the minimum the moving expenses of the tenant?
The landlord will surely replace these small business with something better like a la mota dispensary or starbucks
Better nope..and I don't get tattoos or buy that kind of art. But the record store is heart beat needed .
@@journeybrook9357 it can be re-located.....
More likely Trump memorabilia. They got a burr up their b about the current businesses being pro palestine and pro democrat.
Dopey dispensaries and Starbucks are a dime-a-dozen. No comparison in value to local small businesses.
ILLEGAL HOUSING!!!!!
How sad. I wish you all the best of luck. I wonder why they don’t have to honor a three year lease?
Who did they vote for? Who did the downtown development group vote for?
We weren't told if the businesses were being compensated to leave. More likely, the owner wants to turn it into a residential property.
Humanity moved out of Portland back in 2014.
It is now a replacement city for San Fran
I literally left there in 2014. You are 100% correct.
Perfect and accurate observation.
i left in 2013 and prior it was such a great place to live.
Umm words have specific meaning….if someone ASKS you to do something, you DO NOT have to do it. When someone legally ORDERS/DEMANDS that you do something, you DO have to do it…or suffer legal repercussions.
The city of Portland is not friendly to business
Portland is dead. It has become a souless, pointless hole. Time to move on, there are other places to be.
Actually this is a promising sign that the intentional blighting of Portland is coming to an end.
Yep, you get rid of 2nd Ave records and that's a big blow to our wonderful history. slowly chipping away at it...
You voted for it. Please stay there so you don't poison the rest of the country.
JUST AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT BRING THE LIB MINDSET THE MADE POTLAND A HOLE TO NEW CONSERVATIVE PLACES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm confused what's the purpose of a lease, if the owners can break it, surly it's illegal.
Follow the money to those that benefit from the gentrification of your city. And if you are displaced, please don't come to Olympia. I cant afford my rent anymore.
I always liked their city slogan, 'Keep Portland in Oregon'
Proof that having money and connections does not mean you are a good person or have decency or class.
If they don't have a valid reason to break the lease, then take them to court.
That's just raw. Look at all that culture getting taken out in one swipe. 2nd Ave records is def a piece of Portland and I bought a ton of great vinyl in there. I feel for those folks who put their blood swear and tears into their businesses.
This is the kind of crud that pisses me off. LEAVE THEM WHERE THEY ARE OR GIVE THEM AID TO RELOCATE.
Hardest lesson of my life. A $250K in investment, my life's savings in 2000. Signed a 5-year lease to open a transmission shop. 15 years of working 12+ hours a day running a pretty successful transmission and auto repair shop, I was never going to be a millionaire, but bought a nice home, clothed our kids, paid for some of their education. Then the landlord quadrupled the rent when the last 10-year lease expired. $2500 a month to $10,000. There was no way to sustain that rent. Forced me out and into retirement. Laid off 6 family people, We employed two female mechanics. Broke my heart. Here is the lesson: If you do not own your building and your name, you do not own a business. I owned my name. Franchises are the worst. You do not own the building or your name. Commercial property owners are the worst of vultures out there. FWIW, the landlord was never able to lease my shop again. He lost it in foreclosure. After sitting vacant the last 7 years, the city took it over and demolished the building. The city wants to build a strip mall there now.
WELL AT LEAST THE GREEDY OWNER GOT SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!
The building owners should have to pay for and help find relocation for these businesses. Probably another private equity ownership group ruining the little guy. When will we put these sacks off money and excrement on notice in this state? No more buying up homes for investment!
Refuse to support the owners of the property for their behavior. They may be "legally" right to do this, but people can refuse to have anything to do with them. They show up at your business, refuse to serve them, among other things.
This is so F**ked up 😢
This is a heritage and treasure place should continue and get support not the opposite !! Bar or a restaurant would never be better than records store
It's not good to have your business on a street named after a murderer.
Seems like these places are bringing in real high end customers... Perhaps the building owners are doing what they can to improve Portland. Make Portland Great Again!
There are a lot of missing pieces to this story. The limited information shared doesn't give a full picture of what's happening. More investigation needs to happen NOW. Then broadcast the rest of the story tonight.
My Grandmother always told me that if a situation takes place that seems to make no sense, you can bet there's a money reason behind it. For this situation, my guess is that this block has been marked for redevelopment. Such a shame, but Portland seems like it's been under a siege from within for some time now. It used to be a fun city to spend time and money in.
I bought all my T-shirts there in High school.... in the 90's
This is the time for all of them to band together and hire a attorney to go over their leases and file a temporary injunction against the forced move out. This would give these people some extra time at the bare minimum and hopefully some money if it's deemed they are due fees for breaking the leases on them. I couldn't imagine signing a lease without some sort of consequences for either party breaking the lease.
WTF? 3 months into a 3 year lease? That's just down right dirty, beyond unethical. 42 Year tenant and you give them a month to move their business?
Smells like rich folks wanting to redevelop to rent to other rich folks and make even more money. Jerks. Get ready, our entire country is about to be run by folks like that. WE ARE SCREWED.
Sue...your lease is your guarantee. As a side note....don't do ANY business in MULTNOMAH county!!
A lot of greedy landlords in Portland and no city protections. No checks and balances for owners in portland. It sucks here
I never heard of Harvey Milk st in Portland, we have been to the one in SF, where he was the mayor. we have been to that record shop, I thought it was on Burnside, so confusing.
To clarify, Harvey Milk was elected to the SF Board of Supervisors which included the Castro. He was known as the "Mayor of Castro Street". He was the first openly gay man elected to office in California. I suspect the street was named to honor that first. I remember the shocking day he and Mayor George Moscone were killed by Dan White.
This is Stark Street. This is the name the city put on the street after most of the gay and lesbians businesses closed. Because Portland considers gay night life districts a thing of the past.
@@daviddahl8186 They changed Stark to Harvey Milk? i feel like vomiting.
@@dpayneless1962 What does that have to do with Portland?
@@SammyandMonicaPlease, don't vomit. Let me explain. It's to honor a gay rights leader fighting for people who can't. We also name streets after MLK, Rosa Parks and many others throughout the country. It's a good thing. They're good people.
The US Bank building has lot of spaces.
The art store owner signed a 1 year lease and then invested all that effort? It sounds like these businesses are not very business-like. I am sympathetic to the property owner that these tenants are Undesirable.
This isn’t about to leave at the end of lease. It’s saying we will take your money for three years and throw you out after three months. Like after you paid for your inventory.
What? You clearly have lost your mind.
He has a 3 yr lease , refuse to leave unless he is paid 1 yr of rent for breach of contract , loss of business , moving expenses etc . Even renting a business space you are still entitled to a certain amount of time notice .
Sounds like he had an early termination due to sale clause and given proper notice with 90 days - so it wouldn't be a breach of contract in that case. Exception would be if his landlord made some wild promises in something that could be shown in court, like an email. Him staying there for a year demanding payment would likely end with his stuff being put in storage at his expense and him being arrested. I'm not agreeing with it, but just saying that's how the law works.
Well, this sucks.
Heart breaking
Power over money
Theres corruptions there in Portland also in beucratic
Sadly, most of these business owners don’t even read their lease contracts or have it reviewed by an attorney. This IS the most important contract for your business. It is also the #1 reason businesses move or put their business up for sale. Over time these contracts strangle a business like a boa constrictor. They think they are working for themselves. NO, YOU ARE WORKING FOR THE LANDLORD!
The new Stark Tower location.
Don't shut down another record store.
they do this til someone makes them stop. they have addresses too.
Sounds like the property manager wants to get the building changed to a residential building. Luxury condos incomming.
Private Equity company is my guess. They have other plans for this site.
Did you learn anything from this? 100,000 news employees and nobody knows why or if legal
The Governor building should be converted to low income housing or shelter beds.
Should be absolutely illegal to break a lease like that, with no consequences? Garbage landlords should be sued
Has the building ownership changed? Out of state investors often buy older buildings and kick everyone out to bull doze and build new.
Hang in there, Portland! I sympathize with you. I believe changes are on the way. Even though you're reaping your own reality, in terms of who you voted for, I think things will turn around. Vote wisely
NO CHANGES FOR POTLAND!!!!!!!! THEY INVENTED LIB!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ya know, half of our issues is how we treat each other in our communities. I mean how can you bitch about our government when we are the same with each other? Just what I see.
This is completely illegal.
That sux I used to buy CDs from them from 20yrs ago. They were the go to for my CD collections. This sux. Hope they find a new location that will be better.
This is what happens when a country elects a criminal to be its head of state.
They're going to turn it into condos or apartments or immigrant housing...They're going to make a lot of money... Things sometimes make the immediate position seem insurmountable...But; Sometimes drastic change is good...Good luck...Join forces and buy your own building...
Portland is not a wonderful place anymore.
When was it? Moved there in '14. Moved over to Vancouver after about the 3rd time my care got broke into in a year. The place hasn't gotten any better.
@@dogofwar6769 portland was home. this is isn't portland. this is a place for califoranians to buy up and change
@@dogofwar6769 YOU MISSED OUT THEN.....
2014? I’ve been here since 78.. your part of the crew that ruined it.
been here 2 years this City is worse then seattle a nightmare
The management company must be from California.😒
California, Portland, Seattle = all the same.
I thought it was crime and homelessness forcing local businesses to close down and leave town.
If the leases are up...
They have the right to ask them to leave.
The leases aren't up, but of course you didn't bother actually hearing the story.
By the end of the month? In November?
Make Portland Great Again
Not going to happen anytime soon.
Downtown Development group owned by the Goodman family, one of the richest in Portland, owns the building. They are above the law (including their own leases) and can do whatever they want to peasants. Welcome to capitalism, the nicer word for oligarchy. Your life is nothing.
Because the owner of the property doesn’t want you there. Do you have a lease?
They bring the wrong clientele into the city
Who is the owner?
If this is mine, they can stay.
Class action lawsuit?
You’re kidding me? I go to these places for years. How could you do this to business owners? Let me guess; they are going to make apartments that no one wants to live at.
I would recommend that you never signed a one-year lease for a commercial piece of property. Even if after one year you can’t make it in business and you’re going to vacate the building, they’ll want to rent it to someone else and so you can negotiate leaving the property and letting them move on leasing to others. Obviously these people are in business doing things that they understand but they don’t understand the real estate market and leases. They should all get together and hire a good law firm and see where the chips fall.
A lot of places remain vacant because the landlord won't do any more than month to month or single year leases. Besides, the tattoo artist signed a 3 year lease and still got boned.
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Chances are he doesn’t have the funds to hire good counsel to make sure they live up to the lease arrangements . There could be a clause in there where they confess judgment. That might mean in some respects that the plaintive has to pay the defendant attorney fees. Many people jump into business not knowing what they’re doing and they are talented but they don’t understand business yet and that is a big yet.
Claim squatter rights and force them to explain to a judge why.
Come on folks, let’s be real for a minute, it’s business. You are Tenants and the building Owner has decided to take a different direction, so unfortunately, it’s time to move somewhere else. The comment by one Tenant that she wouldn’t have signed a one-year lease if she knew she was going to have to move in a year…then why did you sign the lease in the first place?
Did Black Rock buy the property?
It is a contract, no? Both parties need to honor it.
Remember. The Tattoo ink never runs dry in Portland… Portland 😂