I want to update the tier list. Move vultures 1 to D tier. Vultures 2 is F tier in competition for the worst album of 2024. TLOP stays exactly where it is, still mid. Just cause an album has a couple really good songs doesn't offset the rest of the album.
Exactly. I do the same thing, except I spend closer to an hour or two searching before switching over. I like playing with a world map mod, so exploring tends to lead to discovering things on the map that I can go to later without chunk base, which helps avoid searching for multiple biomes in different playsessions. But still, finding biomes is pretty tedious in the base game.
And this is why I see Minecraft as a deeply flawed and mainly unfun game (by itself). Compared to Terraria, which has none of the issues included in Minecraft lol. Minecraft is still my favourite game, but as a game, it can be a bit of a failure.
I wasted so many days finding a swamp only to discover it is 5000 blocks away, searching the entire 10000 block radius range from my base felt so unnecessary.
One of the best things they've done recently is the Azalea trees on top of lush caves. I've always thought this was so elegant because you can just be exploring, see an Azalea tree, and know that your exploration downward there will bear fruit if you're looking for lush caves. I want more of this for sure, in game stuff to kind of give me a general region to explore.
maybe something similar could be done with trail ruins and trial chambers. trial chambers are just random, trail ruins just have a few blocks sticking out which is impossible to spot in the dense forests they generate in
I find it kind of funny that he points out that the obvious upside to having so many players playing on the same map is that someone else probably already found what you need, but then when Mumbo is following coordinates to a location it doesn't occur to him that that might have been how he got the coordinates and not chunkbase lol
when traveling great distances, I sometimes have F3 up, just to see how long I have traveled (and where to), has nothing to do with finding a specific coord unless I'm headed for my home coords, or the coords of one of my farms.
In case people are still curious about whether or not Hermitcraft uses Chunkbase, in Hypnotizd's latest episode, he literally says that he used Chunkbase to find a slime chunk. That doesn't mean that all the hermits use it all the time. They all feel differently about it I'm sure, but there's no rule against it.
They've said before that they often do, the times he's referring to was a specific season where the seed was hidden on purpose. It was later discovered by I think Doc somehow, but 9/10 they usually know the seed and use the site
@@LyricAndCompany doc didn't find the seed, he accidentally showed bedrock patterns on the nether roof in one of his videos and people used that to find the seed and someone emailed him the seed
9:46 That mechanic it's in the game actually 😅 surprisingly most of the players didn't know about it This a text from Minecraft wiki : "When dolphins are fed raw cod or raw salmon, they swim to the nearest shipwreck, buried treasure, or ocean ruins. Because they are locating the chest in the structures rather than the structures themselves, breaking the chests causes the dolphin to locate a new structure with intact chests. Dolphins also avoid guardians and elder guardians."
I actually didn't realize it led to the chests itself. From what I knew of dolphins it only led to a shipwreck, and to the structure itself rather than said chests. Good to know!
except those are the three easiest structures to find in the game; They spawn underwater and so are never hidden behind terrain/treeline, and boat travel is fastest travel method without even costing hunger. It's a fun mechanic to find for sure, but it's more of an easter egg, as nothing in the game points towards it, unlike eyes of ender which is in the recipe book and has advancements related to it.
In Jeb's game design book, there's a page titled "finding things is fun, searching for them is not", so I'm glad the developers keep it in mind when designing new content. Personally I would love it if lodestones were used more in world - fortresses and bastions could contain compasses pointing to each other, referencing a past rivalry. And there could be compasses leading to structures in the nether that have a portal to an ancient city. So the way you find them is more mysterious than a map, but you will still eventually find them.
I just found the book, and in that section he refers to the woodland mansions and eyes of ender, two of the very few structures that actually have a way to find them. Kinda a weird slight of hand, but I guess the book is more about the best parts, rather than reflecting on what could be better But I mean he does say that exploring should be rewarding, and that they, "should also make sure that we give players a reasonable way of finding things." And that I definitely agree with. Reasonable is the perfect word for what I want, but it never crossed my mind when making this video.
@@DIMM4_ Yeah, especially when you get to the pages with guidelines like "items should be multipurpose" and "new features should be respectful of old ones" which have many many exceptions even in relatively modern versions. At the very least they're aware of the problem and actively considering solutions, even if they can't implement them straight away. Do you have a discord account btw? or other social media? It'd be cool to talk further.
I mean finding the Fortress to me is part of the challenge of conquering the Nether it wouldn't be nearly as Satisfying to get the victory over the Nether with a compass that points me in the exact right direction, I guess I would never have to do that but it's the fact that if people wanna progress FAST they'll always take the most easily accessible method to doing that and not engage themselves in the experience of hunting down a Bastion and a Nether fortress , I guess bartering with Piglins would be a fun way to get an item like that
on my friends server, i really needed a cactus for green dye. so i went looking for a desert. for over 20k blocks. _in two different directions._ by the end, i really just wanted to use chunkbase, but the seed was hidden, so i couldn’t. something like a map for desert temples or a way to point me in the direction of a biome would’ve helped a lot i did manage to find that cactus though. _in an igloo._
@@gaminglord5558probably, i don't normally spend a lot of time checking igloos since they normally don't have much in the way of loot. (Some of them are tutorials for villager curing and have the supplies for 1 cure and 2 villagers.)
they added a map for each village, including desert villages, in a recent snapshot. don't know when that'll be in base game though, it's apart of the villager trade re-balance so it could be 1.21 or 1.21.X by the time it's added. I'm just glad they're working on it at all honestly.
@@reecedeyoung6595 Definitely didn't at the time. We've always tried to play as vanilla as possible in that regard so we tried to avoid learning how the generation worked
I once built this huge underground base. The only issue came from the facts that: A. The base was a little bit too deep. B. Several parts of it were in slime chunks. My god, was it annoying.
@@interlamer7480 Yup, i make my mineshafts pretty big mostly for the collection of stones and stuff. But the consequence is whole slime chunks being exposed and spawning slimes absolutely everywhere, I now think killing slimes is a waste of durability.
slime chunks shouldn't exist at all. Underground bases shouldn't be such a hassle. Wanted to just make a large clearing for mining equipment, smelters and stuff, and slimes spawned everywhere. And you can't even tell why slimes spawn without googling it. Great new user experience, mojang.
At 5:18 - I clicked on this video with that same “I’ve never heard of chunkbase, who’s using this” mindset cause I’d never heard of it before. But the moment you showed what it was, I realized “wait I used a downloaded mod equivalent of the site’s exact purpose years ago.” For the most part, I enjoy the exploration aspects of Minecraft, so I don’t mind looking for most biomes. But the biggest problem to me is that slime chunks ONLY exist in the seed’s map data. Like why gatekeep the spawn mechanic of a basic mob, just put it in the F3 menu or something instead of making us use an external tool.
putting anything in F3 doesn't fix the problem, though. a new player will be confused as hell when their mine has slime problem, and even more so when they make a new world and can't find slimes even underground. Removing slime chunks and replacing them with biome-specific spawns, like in lush caves, or in a new "slime cave" biome, would just make more sense.
In Hermitcraft there is no rule except for playing minecraft in survival lol, so using Chunkbase or not is an option. Some Hermit find that more enjoyable, or they wanna try new things and challenges since playing a game for years could be boring.
Most of the hermits decided to not use Chunkbase in the beginning, and they often do this in every season, but once the season gets established, they all use it. Not using it in the beginning of the season is fine, but after a certain point, you've "earned" the right to cheat.
@@Rooftopaccessorizeris using texture packs cheating? What about x-ray packs? Like it's still pack. What if chunk base would be able to locate diamonds. Would that be cheating. Everything is about point of view. If server decides that something is cheating then it's cheating.
@@mistrdavid yea specific servers, there isnt any universally agreed upon form of cheating in a sandbox game. its entirely up to the players. personally i think diamonds are fairly worthless once you have a backup set of gear, i think its all about what you build. I honestly think its a bit silly when people are acting like the number of diamonds you have even matters.
I've resorted to using Chunkbase ever since I got a fulltime job. I'm a creative builder shifting to survival, so I *must* know what structures are nearby and what biomes are where, so that I could plan properly and get what I need without spending the hours I don't have on senseless wandering. Good thing is that my neurodivergence makes me forget the map almost immediately, so I only have a vague memory of directions, and, in my case, Chunkbase doesn't spoil the fun =D
This is my mentality as well, as I am a full-time student. I strictly play single player with my only motivation being a desire to build crazy farms in my survival world, so I use every tool I have available to get things done in a timely manner. Quality of life mods like chestplate+elytra, instamine deepslate, an fps screen with more detail (which happens to display slime chunks), etc... all maintain the fun of the game without the expense of losing precious hours.
I really wish the generation was better, I just want a spawn near a village and two specific biomes. Only way to find that is to go mapbase and change numbers randomly. If mapbase can generate a basic outline of a seed in few milliseconds, I'd imagine the new world screen could do the same.
The chuck base problem, Meaning the problem of which includes chunckbase, if he means a problem with chunck base he would of said the problem with chunckbase,
I would love for the way to find a bastion without adventuring aimlessly to be that you can befriend a baby piglin and it will give you a way to get to the bastion like a compass. I love the idea of showing kindness to mobs rewarding you. Mojang sees something like villager farms or killing animals and seeks to make it impossible or worthless instead of encouraging another path. Give the player a choice. Yes, you could kill the sheep for one wool, but then you have only one wool and no more sheep. OR you could shear the sheep and get infinite wool and aren’t killing an animal, but it’s up to you. Wow. Crazy.
@@certifiednobody the issue is when you have that one bad seed where bastion is impossible to find; You will waste hours, even more if you happen to die in the long expedition
Doc actually reverse engineers the seed using the way some structures spawn. Like, on a multiplayer server, you can download a mod that reads in structures near you, and after collecting enough you can use that to calculate the seed. Best way is to boat around an ocean and find like 8 monuments or shipwrecks. nah actually Doc's *fanbase* reverse engineered the seed using incidental footage he took while looking for a 1-high bedrock in the nether ceiling, because having the coordinates and how a small section of bedrock spawns is enough, because the hivemind is wild. (For season 9, when Xisuma explicitly said in the leadup he wasn't going to release the seed so the hermits can still have a few surprises).
@@Extramrdoeverything in world gen is based on the seed, if we have the formulas and the output we can run it backwards and determine the seed. What's wild is that a 5x5 of 1 layer of bedrock with the coords is enough to do so. (I saw a video explaining it once) I was even more surprised that i knew something about technical Minecraft before Doc knew. (Thanks RUclips algorithm) Season 9 was all about having a blind seed, and some good came of it, but it also clearly showcases the chunk base problem. It is simply so impractical to find certain essential things without throwing the seed into chunkbase. Some of these items are easier to find now, like slimechunks in the massive caves, but overall too many biomes can only be found by aimlessly wandering until you stumble upon them, with no guarantee of them even existing close to spawn. (Close being a 1000 block radius or the 3x3 of zoom 3 maps everyone loves to make)
@@jasonreed7522 Migratory birds that travel from biome to biome would be great way to solve this, really. Think of a duck mob that you either see floating near shores, or flying towards and between the jungle and taiga. So you always know where closest taiga & jungle is just by following the migratory paths that fly above you every now and then
Considering the existence of Lodestones now, they can probably make it so that Compasses can point to a structure that has a lodestone in it, I can see Shipwrecks pointing to potential abandoned villages or possibly Ancient Cities
6:50 some of them use it at least, "Grain" might not either for comedic effect or "morals". Either way, when they are in need of a slime chunk, historically chunk base is coming out (I'm pretty sure)
I completely understand why people end up giving up and using chunkbase, but for me, there is something about exploring the Minecraft world, that I love, which makes that no matter how much time does it last, I don't give up. Getting the Adventuring Time achivement without chunkbase has to be one of my biggest achivements in Minecraft.
bro i once tried to find a sunflower plains biome for farming yellow dye but idk why i was not able to find any despite flying for thousands of blocks near my base. i looked up on chunkbase and found a very small patch about 9000 blocks from my base. now imagine randomly finding the really small patch on your own. absolutely painful. i considered going to creative and getting just one sunflower but i was like yk what chunkbase is still better than creative
@@gijskramer1702chunkbase doesn't just save time, it lets you keep your world file size small. Very important for console players who can't trim their worlds, and when large world sizes cause all sorts of problems include lag and crashes. (There is a reason Xisuma regularly prunes the outer chunks of hermitcraft, and many other servers have a similar practices. It also helps them have nice stuff closer in to save time, but the lag factor is definitely there.)
I think it would be neat if slimeballs got an animated texture when you entered a slime chunk. As you enter the chunk, it could start squirming or twitching, as if the proximity to its origin awakens it slightly.
11:49 this is a terrible idea. You would have to travel to multiple far off villages just to get more of that type. Whereas if you bring them to your base, you only need to bring one of each and can have an infinite supply of every villager type, and access to every book.
I think the solution is making randomly spawned zombie villagers keep their outfit when cured, and make sure that all villager types can spawn as zombies. Find a swamp zombie villager, cure it, then you have that villager's "genetics" to make more
@@Dragonofshame pretty sure thats already the case, at least if you heal it in biome it spawned in, but its kinda hard to move zombies over longdistances anyways so you would heal it on the spot anyways
Yeah he has absolutely no idea how genetics work lol, but then again the video leans too much towards complaining about having to explore, which is honestly a problem of its own at this point since so many people seem to suffer with that. Other than slime chunks which indeed are absolutely awful to find, this mindset of "I need a guaranteed reward to explore otherwise exploring is not worth it" is something people have been putting themselves through nowadays. Just enjoy the game, go out there, explore, fight your way through the night because you forgot you needed to kill those sheep to make a bed earlier, appreciate all the different landscapes, let the music drive you forward, let yourself disconnect from reality a bit and just do whatever you want. Play for fun, not for the grind of needing to play for the progression and convincing yourself that if there isnt an objective reward you shouldn't explore the world, that you need to build a big farm for everything. I'm not saying a sense of progression is bad either or denying how annoying it is when you're building something and want a different kind of wood that you haven't yet acquired, especially when you get unlucky and don't find the biome so easily, but he even mentioned that we're soon getting maps to lead us to biomes so he acknowledges Mojang is already adressing the issue anyways. When we stop thinking so much about the next item we need and just enjoy our time through the world, one biome at a time until we get where we want, it gets much more enjoyable.
that's the point of the change, to make it so that you can't just get to end game gear in 30 minutes after you make a breeder. It actually creates a progression curve that minecraft currently lacks (well a difficult progression curve i should say)
This topic must be brought up the highest of Minecraft courts. I believe this issue alone is why Minecraft is notorious for the “2 week” meme. The game hasnt gotten boring, it has gotten exponentially more sophisticated, complex, anddd larger. There must be more reward for exploring and continuous progression. (Progression in the form of gameplay not fucking items)
I'm glad this got better in 1.21 with trial chambers Get a map to a trial chamber and get either a slime spawner or drink ominous bottle to have a chance to make mobs get oozing and therefore spawn slimes. After getting your first 9 slimeballs, brew oozing potions and make a slime farm anywhere in the world!
if you're willing to go this far online (none of what you said is explained in-game) to research a way to get slimes, might was well go to mapbase and find a slime chunk. You didn't solve the core issue.
I really like the idea of the maps to find different structures as it gives villagers a use outside of farming emeralds for books and makes the game feel less grindy
spending hours upon hours, traveling for thousands of blocks, just makes the process of finding tedious and will quickly elliminate the fun factor. wandering aimlessly hoping to randomly find what you're looking for does not feel rewarding, it feels like a chore. whatever reward for finding something cool or useful is easily negated by the frustration of not finding the one thing you were looking for and desparately need. this video makes an excellent example with slime. there's a wide array of machines/farms you just cannot build without slime. so for what reason should finding it be so difficult? again, this ruins the gameplay experience. you can have all the other blocks/items you need for a project, and that one key item/block you either cannot find or cannot obtain will sour the mood. "there's a greater sense of reward!" is the same logic for "one block at a time". there are next to no methods to cause any sort of change to multiple blocks at once. and contrary to what jeb may believe, this is actually not fun at all when dealing with larger projects. hence why nearly every single technical mod or datapack has at least one method of modifying multiple blocks at once. players actually *don't* enjoy the other way. it's one thing to spend time, it's another to sqaunder it. and no small amount of minecraft's current gameplay loop and design cause/encourage flat-out wasting time.
@@ETXAlienRobot201I genuinely don’t have this problem with Minecraft honestly. I love just walking around for hours, It feels nice because I HAVE the time to do that, I understand if someone has a busy schedule and can’t do that but because I have free time a lot, it doesn’t feel like a waste of time for me
@@owenbridgers . I'm utterly confused by this. you could walk aimlessly in a better game. Adding sense to slime chunks, adding way to actually find biomes, these won't ruin your aimless walking in any way.
Villagers ingeriting parent’s clothes is actually a really good feature since you could collect every type of villager and cycle them to get a baby you want
I have this habit, when I go caving, I make sure to use the DFS algorithm and spawnproof EVERYTHING with torches. During that process, when I backtrack to where I came from, I sometimes find slimes in those areas that I lit earlier and then I go "woooo slime chunk", make a screenshot of the coordinates and forget about it
There needs to be like, more structures in-between A and B. So going to find a swamp 10000 blocks away, you can find interesting things along the way. Then in those structures should have maps or a special compass that points to another more rare / secret structure.
My general philosophy with Minecraft is that whenever I spawn in a new world, I try to do as much as I can with the resources that I do have, before exploring outwards. I spawn in a forest? Cool, I have tons of wood! I spawn on top of a mountain? Cool, I have tons of stone and iron. I spawn in a desert? Less cool, but still, I have tons of sand and with a bit of luck I can find a temple or a village to get me started. By playing this way, every seed gives a unique challenge, and I'll start exploring only after I feel like I have nothing else to do around the spawn area. Am I missing a key resource? Tough luck, I'll find it eventually, as my "domain" expands naturally. Until then, going without it is part of the challenge of survival. I remember one time when I was looking for sheep to make a bed, but no matter how hard I tried, there wasn't a single sheep for miles around spawn. I could have explored further away and I would have surely found one eventually, but instead I stayed at spawn and kept playing anyway, and that led me to create an awesome underground base that would allow me to spend the nights safely and not suffer too much from the constant barrage of phantoms. It was a cool challenge. If you rush to the end, you'll miss so much of the fun little things that the survival Minecraft experience can give you.
They need to add a "Scrying Table." It could work relative to using levels like the Enchanting Table. Maybe you need some resource like it as well. And then it could spit out a relative coordinate, maybe within 100-200 blocks. It could maybe stay in the Scrying crystal until it is used again. You could write it down in a book and then use the table again.
I had ideas on how to make Trail Ruins and Ancient Cities easier to find and it's via maps, but here's the catch, the Cartographer does not trade you for it, you get it as random gifts for completing a Level 5 Raid. The Lore principle is like, "Thank you for saving our village. I don't normally sell these but I'll give it to you for free. This is our secret."
I think part of the reason boils down to the fact that anyone trying to rush the endgame of survival is already going to be using external resources anyways for farms and other exploits to make it easier to get everything they need. People who are just gonna mine a little, build a house and fuck around won't really care they can't find glow berries or a really specific flower that's only in 1 or 2 biomes.
I was watching this video thinking you have at least 300k subs, what an incredible video, hope you get to that point one day where your channel explodes
i think explorer maps may help some people, but i honestly think a real neat idea would be to make... less things exclusive to just one place. why should resources be "this is only found here, and also is only really used for this" also, i think if sniffers could Sniff and Sense ancient structures, it'd be cool
@@legathar8558 to be fair, not everything needs to be "useful" i think the mob votes arent perfect, but i think its... partially out of. mojang trying to appease people who only ever ask for "muh useful" whatever that means in the context of *minecraft* of all games i dont agree with how they treat mobs from votes, but i dont agree with bashing on the time put into the mobs either
That first example is a lot more of an issue now that finding a swamp biome is required to get Mending from villagers. Swamps in particular do have a helpful trait in that they tend to be at sea level, though; I’d started a world with the intention of finding a swamp before doing anything, only to delete it after finding nothing for ages, but a second try restricting my search to boat travel found me one pretty quickly.
6:55 mumbo probably asked xisumavoid or someone else for the coords Also legacy console edition had a great solution to this problem: since the worlds were a limited size, finding any biome or structure generally wasn't all that difficult
As soon as you said the solution is in the trade rebalance I could already imagine people saying "But I would need to sacrifice the ability to spend 5 hours rolling for an unguaranteed chance for a Mending book."
I love how most feature rich mods add a way to find a slime chunk, or an easier way to get slimeballs. My favourite is botania, which adds an item that looks different in a slime chunk that's gated to the late midgame. It's hilarious that Minecraft has added no way to actually do this in vanilla. I feel like enchanting also sucks in the same way. It's either enchanting and grinding until you find all the things you like with none of the things you don't like, or you make a villager trading hall, which is the same process but you only have to do it once and it's more infuriating
I don't mind exploring the surface for a while, though I do really like that one of the quality of life changes from the villager rebalances was mentioned. Only problem with cartographers is that they can be random whether they want to sell a certain map, which can get pretty annoying when searching for trial chambers.
Here's a fun idea: Make it so wandering traders can trade biome maps for a selection of specific biomes, like Jungle, Ice Spikes, Mushroom Island, Swamp, etc. It makes sense after all, surely a wandering trader has seen a lot of the world.
As of recent I had a difficult time finding desert and other warm biomes, and after getting desperate enough to use chunk base and I saw that almost non of the map is warm biomes, with it mostly being vast snow biomes and plains
The nether update made it so much harder to find fortresses. Solely because of basalt biomes. They’re so much slower to traverse and much more dangerous. And I always end up getting a ton of them to slow down my search.
In a friends realm, i had travels thousands of blocks, to find another ocean monument for more sponge, and found one over 5000 blocks away from where our base was, come to find out there was 4 other ocean monuments within 1000 blocks of the first ocean monument close to our base that i was not able to see, I found it thanks to chunkbase. We didn't care about cheating in general, such as using select commands, like time set, weather clear, gamemode or other simple commands like these, even including teleportation. I didn't fully agree to using the different commands, with the exception of time set and weather clear. I wanted to stay as far away from the TP command, and had used creative to get a aerial view of the progress i made on my base. I had already located some of the things before even seeing chunkbase, like the stronghold, ancient city, the first ocean monument, and a handful of villages, so at that point, i didnt mind using chunkbase to locate some other things that was further away that isnt something i found before hand.
To the Hermitcraft thing: firstly, I don‘t know if they use it or not, but just because he is looking at coordinates does not imply that he definitely is using chunkbase. As you said, Grian walked 10k Blocks in one direction, and that means, that he himself might have stumbled across that exact biome, and you don‘t know if Mumbo asked some other Hermits if they have found one, and someone gave him coordinates that they then may have found.
The new sliming potion will help, but what would be cool is if there was a specific item like a water dowser or slime dowser if you would. This item could have a small chance of spawning in witch huts and/ or trial chambers, and when you enter a slime chunk it will glow green and give off slime particles when in hand.
I would like to point out that I have seen Hermits using chunkbase for exploring on live stream. Recently a group went to plunder the deep dark but didn't want to spend the whole 2 hours trying to find new deep darks that hadn't already been raided. So they used chunkbase to find ones further out and travelled through the nether to exact coordinates. It was way more fun as a viewer than to watch them fumble
Chunkbase is honestly addictive once you use it. And by addictive I don’t necessarily mean good, it certainly feels cheaty and definitely ruins immersion for your world.
There’s also the other problem with the wandering trader: if using a mechanic rewards you by _removing_ gameplay, it’s not a fantastically good mechanic. I will say I’m not a purist, that modern minecraft’s vision for itself isn’t less legitimate than alpha/beta’s liminal minimalism, it’s absolutely allowed to be about exploration and structures and biomes and so on, but if it’s gonna be about exploration, it should surely not create a mechanic that removes that exploration element for the kinds of items you’re looking for.
I think the beauty of Minecraft is to do whatever you like. When you dont wanna search for a swamp biome and dont wanna gamble 3 hours on finding a slimechunk, just to build a slimefarm which you need for a world eater, you can just use chunkbase. On our own server everyone is allowed to use chunkbase but you should use it in a non harmfull way. Just like you shouldnt grief your friends house in minecraft, you should not use chunkbase to locate endcitys to farm elytras.
I think the new world gen, with like-biomes near like-biomes, and the overabundance of forests, really hurts the exploration, too. When biome placement was a little more chaotic, it was easier to find different biomes by just wandering around. with forests, I think there are too many very samey variants of them, that spawn too often, and too close together - such that you have to sift through what feels like way too many forests just to find an actually interesting biome.
As a Minecraft veteran that made hundreds of worlds and ranked countless days into the game, I’d say chunk base is exactly what someone like me needs to keep Minecraft fun and not as much a waste of time
also another problem that prevent me from getting back in the game is... MINECRAFT IS TOO SEED DEPENDENT, why i can't build my own biome, imagin a biome seed that turn a biome into another, or being able to create or at less transfer structures from place to place... why i would start a world if after get a loot of progress i find a better seed that someone have
I had to use chunkbase today because cartographers seem like they won’t find trial chambers unless you’ve generated a new chunk that contains one. It was incredibly frustrating. It was annoying I unsuccessfully traded up 2 cartographers in far off villages (wasting half a stack of emerald blocks and compasses in the process) before I finally just decided to look it up on chunk base fly over to where it was, generate the chunk, and then fly back to the village just to buy the map for purely symbolic purposes.
I think each village should have a fully mapped and zoomed out map so you can build up a lay for the land. This would be an incredibly easy change for them to make without making things too different.
For slime farm I would just find a big flat cave (you dont even need to search for them, they're everywhere underground) and dig a hole minimum 4x4 somewhere in the middle, then make water (minimum 4-blocks wide and one block lower than floor) flow into that hole from every direction and possibly some corners (i don't mean flooding entire cave) and if cave is especially big it's 100% guaranteed that slimes will flow into the hole.
One tip I have to players to keep off chunk base is let your goals change. If you can’t find a certain biome now, do something else. Look for something else for now. Hunting for treasure is a nice side goal to get some basic loot and good excuse to explore while you’re doing something else.
Hermitcraft has always used chunkbase, Impulse and doc have described it a few times as to how they know about large connections of slime chunks, doc described using it to find the perfect location at the start of season 10 and in previous seasons Grian has shown it's use to demonstrate where everyone would be building bases at the start of the season before the seed became explored
This is mojang’s chance to make wandering traders not only useful for skyblock. What would be really cool is if when you find a wandering trader, you can ask him to like find a certain item or certain biome and bring a certain amount of that item or a map of where the biome is back to you, then after like a few days he returns back and now you know where that biome is. And then it would be cool if there is a larger chance to find a wandering trader in a village, because they may be like stopping there for the night or to trade with other villagers, that way you have a more reliable way to find these wandering traders.
A lot of things in minecart are grindy, and this is definitely one of them. I honestly used chunkbase for a while. However, in this current 2-week minecraft phase, I have decided to go back to basics, cutting out chunkbase from my resources. I found a slime chunk using the massive open cave method. I got really lucky, finding 2 of them in about an hour.
Kinda a different approach to this solution would be connections between major landmarks. I don't know how you would go about this to be entirely honest, but I do have a few ideas for a basic groundwork. First, make villages rarer and bigger. Right now they're over plentiful with not enough reward to finding them. Then, make long trade route between villages. Maybe wandering villagers can be found more often at trading posts along these routes, giving a more consistent way to find them. Then add small branching paths that can take you to nearby structures. Like I said idk exactly if this would work, but I think it'd help with the game's storytelling while providing a more practical way to discover structures
9:47 I mean, they already did that with dolphins. If you feed them fish they will guide you to an ocean ruin or a shipwreck, but why stop there with only dolphins doing that? Like you can have cats and dogs doing that. If you feed a tamed cat a raw rabbit piece on a desert, they guide you to a desert temple and if you feed a dog bone meal they guide you towards a fossil or a skeleton dungeon. Hell, the possibilities are kinda endless, like feeding a fox a glow berry will guide you towards an azalea tree and feeding it a normal berry will guide you towards a cherry groove
Another notable flaw with chunkbase is that there isn't (as far as I'm aware) any way to see which version of the game each chunk in your world was generated in, and basically every update tweaks world generation a little bit. So if you've carried your world over only a single version, chunkbase will probably look totally inaccurate and you will get very, very confused. I've settled for using the F3 pie charts to find things even though they're also fairly cheaty, just because they accurately tell you if you're near something (a mob, entity, block entity, etc.) and doesn't tell you how to get straight there so you still have to explore.
I've known about the villager breeding mechanic for years (that it's 50/50 if they clothes are inherited or based on biome), it's probably just that people don't have a need to talk about it so it feels like no one knows it haha And it's WAY better than biome-based clothes. Now you can bring a single villager from far away and still get many other ones with the same clothes. Sure, it's less deterministic, but then you then have so many more options
On my current world I used chunk base to find the nether fortress after an eternity of looking but generally it does take me out of a world to use it. Currently I’m at a loss looking for a desert in my world but I think I’m gonna do it the old fashioned way, just happening upon one eventually.
I want to update the tier list.
Move vultures 1 to D tier.
Vultures 2 is F tier in competition for the worst album of 2024.
TLOP stays exactly where it is, still mid.
Just cause an album has a couple really good songs doesn't offset the rest of the album.
MBDTF in mid should be a federal crime
@@asheercan6555rage bait
It blows my mind no one lost their mind over the Ye rankings. Bro has a community of the last sane people on earth
thoughts on 2093?
@@SeamanLordI quite literally did, I stopped the video as soon as he said tlop is mid 😭😭
TERRIBKE TAKE HOLY SH
i usually try to find a biome for half an hour, at which point im no longer having fun, and then switch to chunkbase
Exactly. I do the same thing, except I spend closer to an hour or two searching before switching over.
I like playing with a world map mod, so exploring tends to lead to discovering things on the map that I can go to later without chunk base, which helps avoid searching for multiple biomes in different playsessions.
But still, finding biomes is pretty tedious in the base game.
And this is why I see Minecraft as a deeply flawed and mainly unfun game (by itself).
Compared to Terraria, which has none of the issues included in Minecraft lol.
Minecraft is still my favourite game, but as a game, it can be a bit of a failure.
@@MrMelonsz It’s a sandbox, not a campaign. The lack of depth is a design choice, not a flaw.
I spend a couple days, give up and go to chunkbase.
I wasted so many days finding a swamp only to discover it is 5000 blocks away, searching the entire 10000 block radius range from my base felt so unnecessary.
One of the best things they've done recently is the Azalea trees on top of lush caves. I've always thought this was so elegant because you can just be exploring, see an Azalea tree, and know that your exploration downward there will bear fruit if you're looking for lush caves. I want more of this for sure, in game stuff to kind of give me a general region to explore.
I am Indian
@@Garde538 do you require assistance?
maybe something similar could be done with trail ruins and trial chambers. trial chambers are just random, trail ruins just have a few blocks sticking out which is impossible to spot in the dense forests they generate in
@@Garde538 I’m so sorry😞
@@hhff8534 There are maps from cartogropher villagers you can get to find nearby trial chambers but it's pretty tedious
Mumbo explains later in his episode that Xisumavoid gave him the coordinates to the savannah biomes.
which episod
@@lilrishitherapperofficial4299 take a wild guess
I find it kind of funny that he points out that the obvious upside to having so many players playing on the same map is that someone else probably already found what you need, but then when Mumbo is following coordinates to a location it doesn't occur to him that that might have been how he got the coordinates and not chunkbase lol
when traveling great distances, I sometimes have F3 up, just to see how long I have traveled (and where to), has nothing to do with finding a specific coord unless I'm headed for my home coords, or the coords of one of my farms.
did he find it or did he use chunkbase?
In case people are still curious about whether or not Hermitcraft uses Chunkbase, in Hypnotizd's latest episode, he literally says that he used Chunkbase to find a slime chunk. That doesn't mean that all the hermits use it all the time. They all feel differently about it I'm sure, but there's no rule against it.
They've said before that they often do, the times he's referring to was a specific season where the seed was hidden on purpose. It was later discovered by I think Doc somehow, but 9/10 they usually know the seed and use the site
@@LyricAndCompany doc didn't find the seed, he accidentally showed bedrock patterns on the nether roof in one of his videos and people used that to find the seed and someone emailed him the seed
i think someone used the carpet mod to detect slime chunks
@@Mini-Gun1239 I think that requires the seed still
@@7stormy334 i dont think he used the seed, its a resource pack
9:46
That mechanic it's in the game actually 😅 surprisingly most of the players didn't know about it
This a text from Minecraft wiki :
"When dolphins are fed raw cod or raw salmon, they swim to the nearest shipwreck, buried treasure, or ocean ruins. Because they are locating the chest in the structures rather than the structures themselves, breaking the chests causes the dolphin to locate a new structure with intact chests. Dolphins also avoid guardians and elder guardians."
I actually didn't realize it led to the chests itself. From what I knew of dolphins it only led to a shipwreck, and to the structure itself rather than said chests. Good to know!
except those are the three easiest structures to find in the game; They spawn underwater and so are never hidden behind terrain/treeline, and boat travel is fastest travel method without even costing hunger.
It's a fun mechanic to find for sure, but it's more of an easter egg, as nothing in the game points towards it, unlike eyes of ender which is in the recipe book and has advancements related to it.
In Jeb's game design book, there's a page titled "finding things is fun, searching for them is not", so I'm glad the developers keep it in mind when designing new content. Personally I would love it if lodestones were used more in world - fortresses and bastions could contain compasses pointing to each other, referencing a past rivalry. And there could be compasses leading to structures in the nether that have a portal to an ancient city. So the way you find them is more mysterious than a map, but you will still eventually find them.
I just found the book, and in that section he refers to the woodland mansions and eyes of ender, two of the very few structures that actually have a way to find them. Kinda a weird slight of hand, but I guess the book is more about the best parts, rather than reflecting on what could be better
But I mean he does say that exploring should be rewarding, and that they, "should also make sure that we give players a reasonable way of finding things." And that I definitely agree with. Reasonable is the perfect word for what I want, but it never crossed my mind when making this video.
@@DIMM4_ Yeah, especially when you get to the pages with guidelines like "items should be multipurpose" and "new features should be respectful of old ones" which have many many exceptions even in relatively modern versions.
At the very least they're aware of the problem and actively considering solutions, even if they can't implement them straight away.
Do you have a discord account btw? or other social media? It'd be cool to talk further.
i told you and now i deleted it
Your idea is genius. Praying that you got hired at Mojang🙏🙏
I mean finding the Fortress to me is part of the challenge of conquering the Nether it wouldn't be nearly as Satisfying to get the victory over the Nether with a compass that points me in the exact right direction, I guess I would never have to do that but it's the fact that if people wanna progress FAST they'll always take the most easily accessible method to doing that and not engage themselves in the experience of hunting down a Bastion and a Nether fortress ,
I guess bartering with Piglins would be a fun way to get an item like that
on my friends server, i really needed a cactus for green dye. so i went looking for a desert. for over 20k blocks. _in two different directions._ by the end, i really just wanted to use chunkbase, but the seed was hidden, so i couldn’t. something like a map for desert temples or a way to point me in the direction of a biome would’ve helped a lot
i did manage to find that cactus though. _in an igloo._
you can find cactus in an iglu? Is there a poted cactus or sm in the basement?
@@gaminglord5558probably, i don't normally spend a lot of time checking igloos since they normally don't have much in the way of loot. (Some of them are tutorials for villager curing and have the supplies for 1 cure and 2 villagers.)
they added a map for each village, including desert villages, in a recent snapshot. don't know when that'll be in base game though, it's apart of the villager trade re-balance so it could be 1.21 or 1.21.X by the time it's added. I'm just glad they're working on it at all honestly.
can’t you just use /seed? it’s available by default even with cheats disabled
@@unit0023 only in singleplayer/lan
the pain of going 700 blocks in the nether to not even find the fortress...
Only 700? I remember me and some friends searching for 15,000 blocks before we found one. Took us hours and we lost some people along the way
@@Keaniney'all know that fortresses spawn in consistent locations on Chunk borders. If it took you that long you are doing it wrong.
@@reecedeyoung6595 Definitely didn't at the time. We've always tried to play as vanilla as possible in that regard so we tried to avoid learning how the generation worked
Uhh f3 will find the fortress. If you dont know this yet after all these years you should just stop playing
@@andeeznationexplain how you find the fortress with f3
I find slime chunks unintentionally all the time while using time to mine, so that time isn't totally wasted, it was used for a good purpose.
I once built this huge underground base. The only issue came from the facts that:
A. The base was a little bit too deep.
B. Several parts of it were in slime chunks.
My god, was it annoying.
@@interlamer7480 Yup, i make my mineshafts pretty big mostly for the collection of stones and stuff. But the consequence is whole slime chunks being exposed and spawning slimes absolutely everywhere, I now think killing slimes is a waste of durability.
slime chunks shouldn't exist at all. Underground bases shouldn't be such a hassle. Wanted to just make a large clearing for mining equipment, smelters and stuff, and slimes spawned everywhere. And you can't even tell why slimes spawn without googling it. Great new user experience, mojang.
At 5:18 - I clicked on this video with that same “I’ve never heard of chunkbase, who’s using this” mindset cause I’d never heard of it before. But the moment you showed what it was, I realized “wait I used a downloaded mod equivalent of the site’s exact purpose years ago.” For the most part, I enjoy the exploration aspects of Minecraft, so I don’t mind looking for most biomes. But the biggest problem to me is that slime chunks ONLY exist in the seed’s map data. Like why gatekeep the spawn mechanic of a basic mob, just put it in the F3 menu or something instead of making us use an external tool.
putting anything in F3 doesn't fix the problem, though.
a new player will be confused as hell when their mine has slime problem, and even more so when they make a new world and can't find slimes even underground. Removing slime chunks and replacing them with biome-specific spawns, like in lush caves, or in a new "slime cave" biome, would just make more sense.
In Hermitcraft there is no rule except for playing minecraft in survival lol, so using Chunkbase or not is an option. Some Hermit find that more enjoyable, or they wanna try new things and challenges since playing a game for years could be boring.
They did ban sand duping, though, to docm77’s eternal annoyance.
Most of the hermits decided to not use Chunkbase in the beginning, and they often do this in every season, but once the season gets established, they all use it. Not using it in the beginning of the season is fine, but after a certain point, you've "earned" the right to cheat.
@@TelsMavistonexcept its not cheating
@@Rooftopaccessorizeris using texture packs cheating? What about x-ray packs? Like it's still pack. What if chunk base would be able to locate diamonds. Would that be cheating.
Everything is about point of view. If server decides that something is cheating then it's cheating.
@@mistrdavid yea specific servers, there isnt any universally agreed upon form of cheating in a sandbox game. its entirely up to the players. personally i think diamonds are fairly worthless once you have a backup set of gear, i think its all about what you build. I honestly think its a bit silly when people are acting like the number of diamonds you have even matters.
I've resorted to using Chunkbase ever since I got a fulltime job. I'm a creative builder shifting to survival, so I *must* know what structures are nearby and what biomes are where, so that I could plan properly and get what I need without spending the hours I don't have on senseless wandering.
Good thing is that my neurodivergence makes me forget the map almost immediately, so I only have a vague memory of directions, and, in my case, Chunkbase doesn't spoil the fun =D
This is my mentality as well, as I am a full-time student. I strictly play single player with my only motivation being a desire to build crazy farms in my survival world, so I use every tool I have available to get things done in a timely manner. Quality of life mods like chestplate+elytra, instamine deepslate, an fps screen with more detail (which happens to display slime chunks), etc... all maintain the fun of the game without the expense of losing precious hours.
@@flambambaminstamine deepslate is pushing it
u just have shit memory,don't make it a disability thing lol
I really wish the generation was better, I just want a spawn near a village and two specific biomes. Only way to find that is to go mapbase and change numbers randomly.
If mapbase can generate a basic outline of a seed in few milliseconds, I'd imagine the new world screen could do the same.
@@benshulz4179 why did I get notified of your comment?
This is not a chunkbase problem, it’s a Minecraft problem
It’s the name of the problem. A video called „The Minecraft problem“ could be about anything.
@@thelfensdrfertha vid is called the chunkbase problem
@@olivoilZ._ *Νot a problem with chunkbase
The chuck base problem,
Meaning the problem of which includes chunckbase,
if he means a problem with chunck base he would of said the problem with chunckbase,
it's a problem WITH minecraft that INVOLVES chunkbase
1:21 putting vultures above MBDTF is fucking crazy
EXACTLT
I would love for the way to find a bastion without adventuring aimlessly to be that you can befriend a baby piglin and it will give you a way to get to the bastion like a compass. I love the idea of showing kindness to mobs rewarding you. Mojang sees something like villager farms or killing animals and seeks to make it impossible or worthless instead of encouraging another path. Give the player a choice. Yes, you could kill the sheep for one wool, but then you have only one wool and no more sheep. OR you could shear the sheep and get infinite wool and aren’t killing an animal, but it’s up to you. Wow. Crazy.
bastion and fortress just go to Z=237 then increase or decrease the X
z can be 237 plus or minus a multiple of 200 but 237 is where they're at
I’ve never had an issue finding a bastion. They pop up twice as often as villages in my exploration
@@certifiednobody the issue is when you have that one bad seed where bastion is impossible to find; You will waste hours, even more if you happen to die in the long expedition
For Mumbo magically finding the savanna my guess is that he got desperate and asked Doc cuz iirc Doc does the preseason chunk loading
Doc actually reverse engineers the seed using the way some structures spawn. Like, on a multiplayer server, you can download a mod that reads in structures near you, and after collecting enough you can use that to calculate the seed. Best way is to boat around an ocean and find like 8 monuments or shipwrecks.
nah actually Doc's *fanbase* reverse engineered the seed using incidental footage he took while looking for a 1-high bedrock in the nether ceiling, because having the coordinates and how a small section of bedrock spawns is enough, because the hivemind is wild. (For season 9, when Xisuma explicitly said in the leadup he wasn't going to release the seed so the hermits can still have a few surprises).
the mod is called “seedfinder” for anyone interested
@@Extramrdoeverything in world gen is based on the seed, if we have the formulas and the output we can run it backwards and determine the seed.
What's wild is that a 5x5 of 1 layer of bedrock with the coords is enough to do so. (I saw a video explaining it once)
I was even more surprised that i knew something about technical Minecraft before Doc knew. (Thanks RUclips algorithm)
Season 9 was all about having a blind seed, and some good came of it, but it also clearly showcases the chunk base problem. It is simply so impractical to find certain essential things without throwing the seed into chunkbase.
Some of these items are easier to find now, like slimechunks in the massive caves, but overall too many biomes can only be found by aimlessly wandering until you stumble upon them, with no guarantee of them even existing close to spawn. (Close being a 1000 block radius or the 3x3 of zoom 3 maps everyone loves to make)
@@jasonreed7522 Migratory birds that travel from biome to biome would be great way to solve this, really. Think of a duck mob that you either see floating near shores, or flying towards and between the jungle and taiga. So you always know where closest taiga & jungle is just by following the migratory paths that fly above you every now and then
Considering the existence of Lodestones now, they can probably make it so that Compasses can point to a structure that has a lodestone in it, I can see Shipwrecks pointing to potential abandoned villages or possibly Ancient Cities
6:50 some of them use it at least, "Grain" might not either for comedic effect or "morals". Either way, when they are in need of a slime chunk, historically chunk base is coming out (I'm pretty sure)
I completely understand why people end up giving up and using chunkbase, but for me, there is something about exploring the Minecraft world, that I love, which makes that no matter how much time does it last, I don't give up. Getting the Adventuring Time achivement without chunkbase has to be one of my biggest achivements in Minecraft.
bro i once tried to find a sunflower plains biome for farming yellow dye but idk why i was not able to find any despite flying for thousands of blocks near my base. i looked up on chunkbase and found a very small patch about 9000 blocks from my base. now imagine randomly finding the really small patch on your own. absolutely painful. i considered going to creative and getting just one sunflower but i was like yk what chunkbase is still better than creative
I walked 20000 blocks looking for a mesa only to find out a mesa was 1000 blocks away from spawn in the other direction...
@@gijskramer1702chunkbase doesn't just save time, it lets you keep your world file size small.
Very important for console players who can't trim their worlds, and when large world sizes cause all sorts of problems include lag and crashes. (There is a reason Xisuma regularly prunes the outer chunks of hermitcraft, and many other servers have a similar practices. It also helps them have nice stuff closer in to save time, but the lag factor is definitely there.)
I think it would be neat if slimeballs got an animated texture when you entered a slime chunk. As you enter the chunk, it could start squirming or twitching, as if the proximity to its origin awakens it slightly.
9:55 I like this idea, it makes wandering trader less useless. And it also make sense too, assuming wandering trader are explorer.
11:49 this is a terrible idea. You would have to travel to multiple far off villages just to get more of that type. Whereas if you bring them to your base, you only need to bring one of each and can have an infinite supply of every villager type, and access to every book.
Agree, making it 50/50 is a good solution because it's the best of both worlds, gives you more flexibility, and at the worst it's a 50/50.
I think the solution is making randomly spawned zombie villagers keep their outfit when cured, and make sure that all villager types can spawn as zombies. Find a swamp zombie villager, cure it, then you have that villager's "genetics" to make more
@@Dragonofshame pretty sure thats already the case, at least if you heal it in biome it spawned in, but its kinda hard to move zombies over longdistances anyways so you would heal it on the spot anyways
Yeah he has absolutely no idea how genetics work lol, but then again the video leans too much towards complaining about having to explore, which is honestly a problem of its own at this point since so many people seem to suffer with that.
Other than slime chunks which indeed are absolutely awful to find, this mindset of "I need a guaranteed reward to explore otherwise exploring is not worth it" is something people have been putting themselves through nowadays.
Just enjoy the game, go out there, explore, fight your way through the night because you forgot you needed to kill those sheep to make a bed earlier, appreciate all the different landscapes, let the music drive you forward, let yourself disconnect from reality a bit and just do whatever you want.
Play for fun, not for the grind of needing to play for the progression and convincing yourself that if there isnt an objective reward you shouldn't explore the world, that you need to build a big farm for everything.
I'm not saying a sense of progression is bad either or denying how annoying it is when you're building something and want a different kind of wood that you haven't yet acquired, especially when you get unlucky and don't find the biome so easily, but he even mentioned that we're soon getting maps to lead us to biomes so he acknowledges Mojang is already adressing the issue anyways.
When we stop thinking so much about the next item we need and just enjoy our time through the world, one biome at a time until we get where we want, it gets much more enjoyable.
that's the point of the change, to make it so that you can't just get to end game gear in 30 minutes after you make a breeder. It actually creates a progression curve that minecraft currently lacks (well a difficult progression curve i should say)
This topic must be brought up the highest of Minecraft courts. I believe this issue alone is why Minecraft is notorious for the “2 week” meme.
The game hasnt gotten boring, it has gotten exponentially more sophisticated, complex, anddd larger.
There must be more reward for exploring and continuous progression.
(Progression in the form of gameplay not fucking items)
Yeah frfr
I'm glad this got better in 1.21 with trial chambers
Get a map to a trial chamber and get either a slime spawner or drink ominous bottle to have a chance to make mobs get oozing and therefore spawn slimes.
After getting your first 9 slimeballs, brew oozing potions and make a slime farm anywhere in the world!
if you're willing to go this far online (none of what you said is explained in-game) to research a way to get slimes, might was well go to mapbase and find a slime chunk. You didn't solve the core issue.
@@benshulz4179 Hmmm?
Who said it was fixed/solved?
@@Rikaisan you
@@benshulz4179 Where?
@@Rikaisan a comment
Hermitcraft Players are free to play as they want, many times in conflicting playstyles. it usually depends on players and situations
Ye I kinda dont like his tone :))
"It's innefficient". Well, exploration isn't supposed to be efficient. I personally don't have a problem with looking for things.
I like that the villagers have a chance to keep their parents' biome. It makes my city look like a lively, multicultural place.
Actually, in 1.21 cartographers will sell maps to swamps and jungles, making those biomes way easier to find without chunkbase!
He…said that in the video
@@tenseravingcreeper when
@@ThisIsTopTierfor like half of the video
@@ThisIsTopTierhere: 7:33
Watch the whole video first bud
I really like the idea of the maps to find different structures as it gives villagers a use outside of farming emeralds for books and makes the game feel less grindy
Weapons reskins in Minecraft have always seemed like a strange case to me
part of the beauty of minecraft is that you have to actually look for things. spending time to find something rare makes finding it more rewarding
spending hours upon hours, traveling for thousands of blocks, just makes the process of finding tedious and will quickly elliminate the fun factor. wandering aimlessly hoping to randomly find what you're looking for does not feel rewarding, it feels like a chore. whatever reward for finding something cool or useful is easily negated by the frustration of not finding the one thing you were looking for and desparately need. this video makes an excellent example with slime. there's a wide array of machines/farms you just cannot build without slime. so for what reason should finding it be so difficult? again, this ruins the gameplay experience. you can have all the other blocks/items you need for a project, and that one key item/block you either cannot find or cannot obtain will sour the mood.
"there's a greater sense of reward!" is the same logic for "one block at a time". there are next to no methods to cause any sort of change to multiple blocks at once. and contrary to what jeb may believe, this is actually not fun at all when dealing with larger projects. hence why nearly every single technical mod or datapack has at least one method of modifying multiple blocks at once. players actually *don't* enjoy the other way.
it's one thing to spend time, it's another to sqaunder it. and no small amount of minecraft's current gameplay loop and design cause/encourage flat-out wasting time.
@@ETXAlienRobot201I genuinely don’t have this problem with Minecraft honestly. I love just walking around for hours, It feels nice because I HAVE the time to do that, I understand if someone has a busy schedule and can’t do that but because I have free time a lot, it doesn’t feel like a waste of time for me
@@owenbridgers . I'm utterly confused by this. you could walk aimlessly in a better game. Adding sense to slime chunks, adding way to actually find biomes, these won't ruin your aimless walking in any way.
Villagers ingeriting parent’s clothes is actually a really good feature since you could collect every type of villager and cycle them to get a baby you want
I have this habit, when I go caving, I make sure to use the DFS algorithm and spawnproof EVERYTHING with torches. During that process, when I backtrack to where I came from, I sometimes find slimes in those areas that I lit earlier and then I go "woooo slime chunk", make a screenshot of the coordinates and forget about it
There needs to be like, more structures in-between A and B. So going to find a swamp 10000 blocks away, you can find interesting things along the way.
Then in those structures should have maps or a special compass that points to another more rare / secret structure.
My general philosophy with Minecraft is that whenever I spawn in a new world, I try to do as much as I can with the resources that I do have, before exploring outwards. I spawn in a forest? Cool, I have tons of wood! I spawn on top of a mountain? Cool, I have tons of stone and iron. I spawn in a desert? Less cool, but still, I have tons of sand and with a bit of luck I can find a temple or a village to get me started. By playing this way, every seed gives a unique challenge, and I'll start exploring only after I feel like I have nothing else to do around the spawn area. Am I missing a key resource? Tough luck, I'll find it eventually, as my "domain" expands naturally. Until then, going without it is part of the challenge of survival. I remember one time when I was looking for sheep to make a bed, but no matter how hard I tried, there wasn't a single sheep for miles around spawn. I could have explored further away and I would have surely found one eventually, but instead I stayed at spawn and kept playing anyway, and that led me to create an awesome underground base that would allow me to spend the nights safely and not suffer too much from the constant barrage of phantoms. It was a cool challenge.
If you rush to the end, you'll miss so much of the fun little things that the survival Minecraft experience can give you.
They need to add a "Scrying Table." It could work relative to using levels like the Enchanting Table. Maybe you need some resource like it as well.
And then it could spit out a relative coordinate, maybe within 100-200 blocks.
It could maybe stay in the Scrying crystal until it is used again. You could write it down in a book and then use the table again.
I had ideas on how to make Trail Ruins and Ancient Cities easier to find and it's via maps, but here's the catch, the Cartographer does not trade you for it, you get it as random gifts for completing a Level 5 Raid.
The Lore principle is like, "Thank you for saving our village. I don't normally sell these but I'll give it to you for free. This is our secret."
Or make it a crazy trade. "Totem of undying + few emeralds for ancient city map", but when you get hero of village, it'd become just few emeralds
Trial chambers are a good source of slimeballs, at least some of them. And the new slimy potion is a great way to get loads of slimeballs
I think part of the reason boils down to the fact that anyone trying to rush the endgame of survival is already going to be using external resources anyways for farms and other exploits to make it easier to get everything they need. People who are just gonna mine a little, build a house and fuck around won't really care they can't find glow berries or a really specific flower that's only in 1 or 2 biomes.
I was watching this video thinking you have at least 300k subs, what an incredible video, hope you get to that point one day where your channel explodes
i think explorer maps may help some people, but i honestly think a real neat idea would be to make... less things exclusive to just one place. why should resources be "this is only found here, and also is only really used for this"
also, i think if sniffers could Sniff and Sense ancient structures, it'd be cool
nooo that'd require Mojang to give mob vote mobs actual uses outside of causing online flame wars!
@@legathar8558 to be fair, not everything needs to be "useful"
i think the mob votes arent perfect, but i think its... partially out of. mojang trying to appease people who only ever ask for "muh useful" whatever that means in the context of *minecraft* of all games
i dont agree with how they treat mobs from votes, but i dont agree with bashing on the time put into the mobs either
7:35 This is the kind of reference that’s hilarious to people who get it while not seeming confusing or out of place for people who don’t
That first example is a lot more of an issue now that finding a swamp biome is required to get Mending from villagers. Swamps in particular do have a helpful trait in that they tend to be at sea level, though; I’d started a world with the intention of finding a swamp before doing anything, only to delete it after finding nothing for ages, but a second try restricting my search to boat travel found me one pretty quickly.
6:55 mumbo probably asked xisumavoid or someone else for the coords
Also legacy console edition had a great solution to this problem: since the worlds were a limited size, finding any biome or structure generally wasn't all that difficult
7:35 Greatblue references in minecraft RUclips videos have always seemed like a strange case to me.
"I dont wanna waste time exploring in a survival exploration game"
As soon as you said the solution is in the trade rebalance I could already imagine people saying "But I would need to sacrifice the ability to spend 5 hours rolling for an unguaranteed chance for a Mending book."
imagine putting vultures above mbdtf, yeezus, and TLOP
I love how most feature rich mods add a way to find a slime chunk, or an easier way to get slimeballs. My favourite is botania, which adds an item that looks different in a slime chunk that's gated to the late midgame. It's hilarious that Minecraft has added no way to actually do this in vanilla.
I feel like enchanting also sucks in the same way. It's either enchanting and grinding until you find all the things you like with none of the things you don't like, or you make a villager trading hall, which is the same process but you only have to do it once and it's more infuriating
Find village, Upgrade cartographer, Get trial map, Go to trial chamber, Use slime spawner until you get as much slime as u want
I don't mind exploring the surface for a while, though I do really like that one of the quality of life changes from the villager rebalances was mentioned. Only problem with cartographers is that they can be random whether they want to sell a certain map, which can get pretty annoying when searching for trial chambers.
Here's a fun idea: Make it so wandering traders can trade biome maps for a selection of specific biomes, like Jungle, Ice Spikes, Mushroom Island, Swamp, etc. It makes sense after all, surely a wandering trader has seen a lot of the world.
Never thought I would see a Great Blue reference in a Minecraft video.
As of recent I had a difficult time finding desert and other warm biomes, and after getting desperate enough to use chunk base and I saw that almost non of the map is warm biomes, with it mostly being vast snow biomes and plains
The slime spawners in 1.21 have been a game changer for me. For right now the slime I get from those spawners is more than enough for me.
The nether update made it so much harder to find fortresses. Solely because of basalt biomes. They’re so much slower to traverse and much more dangerous. And I always end up getting a ton of them to slow down my search.
In a friends realm, i had travels thousands of blocks, to find another ocean monument for more sponge, and found one over 5000 blocks away from where our base was, come to find out there was 4 other ocean monuments within 1000 blocks of the first ocean monument close to our base that i was not able to see, I found it thanks to chunkbase. We didn't care about cheating in general, such as using select commands, like time set, weather clear, gamemode or other simple commands like these, even including teleportation. I didn't fully agree to using the different commands, with the exception of time set and weather clear. I wanted to stay as far away from the TP command, and had used creative to get a aerial view of the progress i made on my base. I had already located some of the things before even seeing chunkbase, like the stronghold, ancient city, the first ocean monument, and a handful of villages, so at that point, i didnt mind using chunkbase to locate some other things that was further away that isnt something i found before hand.
One time I walked around 15k blocks to find a swamp only to find one like 500 blocks away in the other direction from my base
To the Hermitcraft thing: firstly, I don‘t know if they use it or not, but just because he is looking at coordinates does not imply that he definitely is using chunkbase. As you said, Grian walked 10k Blocks in one direction, and that means, that he himself might have stumbled across that exact biome, and you don‘t know if Mumbo asked some other Hermits if they have found one, and someone gave him coordinates that they then may have found.
The new sliming potion will help, but what would be cool is if there was a specific item like a water dowser or slime dowser if you would. This item could have a small chance of spawning in witch huts and/ or trial chambers, and when you enter a slime chunk it will glow green and give off slime particles when in hand.
I would like to point out that I have seen Hermits using chunkbase for exploring on live stream. Recently a group went to plunder the deep dark but didn't want to spend the whole 2 hours trying to find new deep darks that hadn't already been raided. So they used chunkbase to find ones further out and travelled through the nether to exact coordinates. It was way more fun as a viewer than to watch them fumble
my way of dealing with it: I use the resources I am given, not find the resources I need.
fun fact: ancient cities spawn below mountains. I dont usually mind looking for them because of this.
I would personally would prefer the “Compass + Lodestone” idea. That way compasses have more use and you don’t have to hold it to know where to go.
Chunkbase is honestly addictive once you use it. And by addictive I don’t necessarily mean good, it certainly feels cheaty and definitely ruins immersion for your world.
There’s also the other problem with the wandering trader: if using a mechanic rewards you by _removing_ gameplay, it’s not a fantastically good mechanic. I will say I’m not a purist, that modern minecraft’s vision for itself isn’t less legitimate than alpha/beta’s liminal minimalism, it’s absolutely allowed to be about exploration and structures and biomes and so on, but if it’s gonna be about exploration, it should surely not create a mechanic that removes that exploration element for the kinds of items you’re looking for.
I think the beauty of Minecraft is to do whatever you like. When you dont wanna search for a swamp biome and dont wanna gamble 3 hours on finding a slimechunk, just to build a slimefarm which you need for a world eater, you can just use chunkbase. On our own server everyone is allowed to use chunkbase but you should use it in a non harmfull way. Just like you shouldnt grief your friends house in minecraft, you should not use chunkbase to locate endcitys to farm elytras.
I think the new world gen, with like-biomes near like-biomes, and the overabundance of forests, really hurts the exploration, too. When biome placement was a little more chaotic, it was easier to find different biomes by just wandering around. with forests, I think there are too many very samey variants of them, that spawn too often, and too close together - such that you have to sift through what feels like way too many forests just to find an actually interesting biome.
As a Minecraft veteran that made hundreds of worlds and ranked countless days into the game, I’d say chunk base is exactly what someone like me needs to keep Minecraft fun and not as much a waste of time
also another problem that prevent me from getting back in the game is... MINECRAFT IS TOO SEED DEPENDENT, why i can't build my own biome, imagin a biome seed that turn a biome into another, or being able to create or at less transfer structures from place to place... why i would start a world if after get a loot of progress i find a better seed that someone have
I had to use chunkbase today because cartographers seem like they won’t find trial chambers unless you’ve generated a new chunk that contains one. It was incredibly frustrating.
It was annoying I unsuccessfully traded up 2 cartographers in far off villages (wasting half a stack of emerald blocks and compasses in the process) before I finally just decided to look it up on chunk base fly over to where it was, generate the chunk, and then fly back to the village just to buy the map for purely symbolic purposes.
I believe in Xisumavoids video where he explains the management behind the Hermitcraft server, he mentions that they have the /locate command active.
“I doubt this video will perform well because nobody knows about chunk base” meanwhile. . .
I think each village should have a fully mapped and zoomed out map so you can build up a lay for the land. This would be an incredibly easy change for them to make without making things too different.
For slime farm I would just find a big flat cave (you dont even need to search for them, they're everywhere underground) and dig a hole minimum 4x4 somewhere in the middle, then make water (minimum 4-blocks wide and one block lower than floor) flow into that hole from every direction and possibly some corners (i don't mean flooding entire cave) and if cave is especially big it's 100% guaranteed that slimes will flow into the hole.
One tip I have to players to keep off chunk base is let your goals change. If you can’t find a certain biome now, do something else. Look for something else for now. Hunting for treasure is a nice side goal to get some basic loot and good excuse to explore while you’re doing something else.
Get ready for a new contender, option 4: find only one single slime ever and then build an oozing farm
Hermitcraft has always used chunkbase, Impulse and doc have described it a few times as to how they know about large connections of slime chunks, doc described using it to find the perfect location at the start of season 10 and in previous seasons Grian has shown it's use to demonstrate where everyone would be building bases at the start of the season before the seed became explored
Your videos are of really nice quality, despite some bias (that is of course, most welcome in video essays). I wish you became bigger youtuber.
This is mojang’s chance to make wandering traders not only useful for skyblock. What would be really cool is if when you find a wandering trader, you can ask him to like find a certain item or certain biome and bring a certain amount of that item or a map of where the biome is back to you, then after like a few days he returns back and now you know where that biome is. And then it would be cool if there is a larger chance to find a wandering trader in a village, because they may be like stopping there for the night or to trade with other villagers, that way you have a more reliable way to find these wandering traders.
Something else to note is these problems are exaugurated if players play with the large biomes world type.
A lot of things in minecart are grindy, and this is definitely one of them. I honestly used chunkbase for a while. However, in this current 2-week minecraft phase, I have decided to go back to basics, cutting out chunkbase from my resources. I found a slime chunk using the massive open cave method. I got really lucky, finding 2 of them in about an hour.
Kinda a different approach to this solution would be connections between major landmarks. I don't know how you would go about this to be entirely honest, but I do have a few ideas for a basic groundwork.
First, make villages rarer and bigger. Right now they're over plentiful with not enough reward to finding them. Then, make long trade route between villages. Maybe wandering villagers can be found more often at trading posts along these routes, giving a more consistent way to find them. Then add small branching paths that can take you to nearby structures.
Like I said idk exactly if this would work, but I think it'd help with the game's storytelling while providing a more practical way to discover structures
9:47 I mean, they already did that with dolphins. If you feed them fish they will guide you to an ocean ruin or a shipwreck, but why stop there with only dolphins doing that? Like you can have cats and dogs doing that. If you feed a tamed cat a raw rabbit piece on a desert, they guide you to a desert temple and if you feed a dog bone meal they guide you towards a fossil or a skeleton dungeon. Hell, the possibilities are kinda endless, like feeding a fox a glow berry will guide you towards an azalea tree and feeding it a normal berry will guide you towards a cherry groove
Another notable flaw with chunkbase is that there isn't (as far as I'm aware) any way to see which version of the game each chunk in your world was generated in, and basically every update tweaks world generation a little bit. So if you've carried your world over only a single version, chunkbase will probably look totally inaccurate and you will get very, very confused. I've settled for using the F3 pie charts to find things even though they're also fairly cheaty, just because they accurately tell you if you're near something (a mob, entity, block entity, etc.) and doesn't tell you how to get straight there so you still have to explore.
I usually just go exploring without intension to find specific biom or structure, and map out everything the way
Hermitcraft didn't use chunk base last season because they didn't want access to the seed, for every other season the seed has been public
This is the only way i can find a nether fortress without going insane
6 months late but "flashbang of a website" and "michaelsoft" made me subscribe.
Honestly, slimes should just be a regular night mob. They are overly rare for the utility their drop has.
If I want to find a biome, I usually make a copy of my world and then use the /locate biome command
lucky us now we have a new slime farm that can be built into any bass thanks to the new potions
I've known about the villager breeding mechanic for years (that it's 50/50 if they clothes are inherited or based on biome), it's probably just that people don't have a need to talk about it so it feels like no one knows it haha
And it's WAY better than biome-based clothes. Now you can bring a single villager from far away and still get many other ones with the same clothes. Sure, it's less deterministic, but then you then have so many more options
I always play on Large Biomes which isn't supported by Chunkbase so I gotta do everything manually. And I love it
7:34 the cartographer in Minecraft has always seemed like a strange case to me
Me who used to cheat in minecraft when i was 10: "So people have mixed signals on if its cheating or not... Well i guess im using it all the time now"
The entire game is built around uncertainty and time investment… mining, enchanting, villagers, etc.
On my current world I used chunk base to find the nether fortress after an eternity of looking but generally it does take me out of a world to use it. Currently I’m at a loss looking for a desert in my world but I think I’m gonna do it the old fashioned way, just happening upon one eventually.