When did the middle ages in England end?
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2024
- In this video will be exploring five theories on when the middle ages in England end with my own personal opinion as the final one.
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Sources.
The Economy of England 1450-1750 D.C. Coleman
Historical Atlas of the medieval world, Andrew Jotischky and Caroline Hull
England in the 13th century, Alan Harding
Medieval Britain , Lloyd and Jennifer Laing. 
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Further reading.
acraew.org.uk/history-common-land-and-village-greens
www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/evolutionofparliament/legislativescrutiny/act-of-union-1707/
archive.org/details/englishwooltrade0000lloy/mode/2up
I wish this stuff got more views, this is some of the highest quality history I have seen on youtube.
I also learned that the middle ages ended in England with the end of the Wars of the Roses. Your theory is an interesting and thought provoking one.
I think it's the standard taught in UK schools, I'd have to ask a history teacher lol
I cant believe you went to school in the 2010s, your voice has a much more mature quality.
Haha, really? I finished school in 2011.
@@Embracehistoria Yeah I thought you might be over 40. I left school in 2009, so only a couple of years between us.
You have an excellent channel, keep up the good work mate.
I always thought the invention of the printing press was the end of the dark/medieval /middle ages.
I'd probably go with the idea that it was the coming of the Tudors that marked the transition from Middle Ages to "Renaissance-era" English history (even though that's not accurate either.) I also wouldn't trace the "Middle Ages" as far back, but usually think about it starting with the Plantagenets. Just my two farthings. Anyways, nice to see another video from you.
Wow, that is bold to leave out Anglo-Saxon England, but yeah the Renaissance is an annoying left over term.
@@EmbracehistoriaYeah, the Anglo-Saxon period is tricky, but I tend to lump it in with the "dark ages" -- the post-Roman period before the Norman Conquest. I know it's not really fair, and perhaps the "Anglo-Saxon Age" should be a thing unto itself, which is fine with me. It's just that no other European nation shares it.
@@yes_headDark Ages? That is as archaic as it is outdated for the most part nowadays.
Dark ages were so dubbed because there is not, or was not at the time, a lot of documents left to shed light on the times.
As a CK3 player, 1453. As a normal person i have no idea because everytime a new theory came up immediately assumed that was the one. I'm leaning towards Henry the Eighth's death
CK2 back in the day.
I absolutely love your theory. Defining the medieval period as essentially a period of conflict between Church and State, with the collapse of Western Rome greatly weakening the relative power of Western states relative to the Pope, culminating in the rise of modern states in the early modern period reasserting their he supremacy of the state over the church, reaches broadly across Europe. Many European states were greatly transformed as a result of the weakening if the Papacy relative to the State.
I'm glad you enjoyed my theory.
It's one I've thought of and researched for a few years now.
I think the Middle Ages in England end with accession of Edward IV of England either during his first or second reign since he did stabilize the economy and restore the crown power. Edward pretty much a new monarch and a renaissance king.
Fall of Constantinople. Greek speakers then come to western Europe with their Greek texts influenced the Renaissance, The Reformation and beginnings of humanism. Also broke down the 'silk road' to China and India creating the idea of travelling west to find it ie discovery of the new world. Coincidentally with the completion of the Reconquesta in Portugal and Spain too.
For England it's quite interesting that the "Renaissance" comes much later and is more towards literature, for example Shakespeare.
13:25 Chalcedonian Chrisianity would be a better descriptor of the faith at the time.
Eh, for a simple explanation it works.
@@Embracehistoria fair enough. I just don't like the theological and historical implications,mostly because of how they were used to discriminate the orthodox as barbarian and unworthy of rights and used for maltreatment as bad that the saying "better the turkisk turban than the papal tiara" from the byzantines (the devshirme system/blood tax being already in place)
@@Embracehistoria i guess the reasoning for the byzantine quote is "better the blow from my enemy than the backstabbing from my brother", the treatment of the french crusaders in the previous "help" from the catholics sure did not help make the attempts of mending the schism believable
I mean, even declaring a distinct "Ancient", "Middle", and "Modern" age is just as arbitrary as the dates chosen. The year 600 and the year 1300 in what is now the UK are arguably more different than pre- and post- transition between the ages, even though it's all "Middle Ages". Just my thoughts on the matter anyway
Although I do think that thinking about how we define these things can be valuable if it challenges us to develop a more complex and comprehensive understanding of history. For example, discussing the wool trade as you do here is not something I would inherently think of even though it clearly had a period of time where it was a dominant economic factor. But because that was a change around the "Middle-Modern" transition, it's now a role that we have to reason to (re)examine. I'm not sure if that made sense but anyway...
For sure, we humans like to put things into a box haha.
I think the hard thing is on the one hand trying to make it easy and simple to explain, but then knowing it's always more complex.
11.11.1444 obviously 🙄
2,000 hours into EU4 I have to agree with you.
It hasn't ended in England they are still in the middle ages.