Scarlett's NEW Mass Hydralisks! (StarCraft 2)

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
  • StarCraft 2 $500,000 tournament match in 2024. This Zerg vs Terran is from IEM Katowice and features Scarlett reinventing the Zerg mid game as she masses one of the worst units that Zerg has available: the Hydralisk.
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Комментарии • 317

  • @Berryloss
    @Berryloss 6 месяцев назад +370

    Lowko: "In this match, Scarlett goes for a very strange Zerg Strategy"
    Me, watching a video called Scarlett's NEW Mass Hydralisks!: "Oh wow, I can't wait to see what she goes for"

    • @matts3425
      @matts3425 6 месяцев назад +8

      Also you: drawing anime during game #2 😊

    • @WillTheFarter
      @WillTheFarter 5 месяцев назад +1

      what HE goes for

    • @hawianpunch28
      @hawianpunch28 5 месяцев назад

      @@WillTheFarter exactly

    • @Rhynome
      @Rhynome 5 месяцев назад +8

      @@WillTheFarter I'm sure your life changed significantly after someone on youtube used a pronoun you disagree with.

  • @blackholeinacan
    @blackholeinacan 6 месяцев назад +274

    Jesus, the creep spread on that first map. I know Scarlett is known for being good at spreading creep, but that was insane!

    • @Crownest219
      @Crownest219 6 месяцев назад +50

      *Scarlet was known as the creep-spreading queen; She was the one who come up with map-wide creep spreading back in the days and other Zerg pros decided that it was a very legit race-based strat and followed it through. It's thought as common nowadays but the focus technique was on her back then

    • @hoadung5701
      @hoadung5701 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah imagine her spreading in bed 😂😂

    • @bobsagget4061
      @bobsagget4061 6 месяцев назад +15

      Yea she’s a beast

    • @oddeda
      @oddeda 6 месяцев назад +11

      yeah, creepy

    • @jamessteele7010
      @jamessteele7010 6 месяцев назад +4

      @@oddeda she is so good, proving females can compete with males, no problem

  • @chaywarburton3488
    @chaywarburton3488 6 месяцев назад +30

    I loved Hydra in OG SC and BroodWar. Gah the juicy noise with the green animation when they shot .. like they were spitting... was the best xD

    • @jamesyoungquist6923
      @jamesyoungquist6923 6 месяцев назад +5

      Haha yes! Winning with mass Hydra was so satisfying 😙👌 Everything melted in front of your unit groups

    • @TheVocalTune
      @TheVocalTune 6 месяцев назад +2

      Ah Yes good to see My fellow Cerebrates or zerg commanders in general loving their Hydralisks.

    • @fmlAllthetime
      @fmlAllthetime 6 месяцев назад +2

      Pretty much every bread and butter unit outside of the Marine got fucked in SC2. Zealots and Hydras are doodoo, capital ships are meh, tanks are glass cannons...
      I was soooop excited when this game came out ya know? Was solely mistaken.
      It's gotten better over time, just reminds me of the original X-Men movie, just a hard let down ya know? No costumes? Black leather... for real? No floaty Professor X chair, Toad was hot garbage, Magneto looked like you could fist fight him and kill him when in the comics he was top tier and jacked to the tits...
      SC II did that to me as well... that same emotion ya know?

    • @Overgis4058
      @Overgis4058 Месяц назад

      I had to read your comment three times because for some reason i just assumed you were talking about the old player Hydra

  • @EliteDarkAssassin
    @EliteDarkAssassin 6 месяцев назад +152

    "Some of you may be painting Warhammer figures"
    Me painting a tyrannifex 😲

    • @Erebus2075
      @Erebus2075 6 месяцев назад +1

      they know you are comming ;)

    • @Klobilob
      @Klobilob 6 месяцев назад +4

      haha Im painting Necron wraiths!

    • @mitchmitting102
      @mitchmitting102 6 месяцев назад +3

      Me looking to paint a Helbrute and maybe some Skitarii after that:

    • @EliteDarkAssassin
      @EliteDarkAssassin 6 месяцев назад

      @@Klobilob wanted to get into necrons but a friend got into them in 9th and I refuse to play an army a friend plays before I met them.

    • @EliteDarkAssassin
      @EliteDarkAssassin 6 месяцев назад

      @@mitchmitting102 I like admec models, I think they're some of the coolest, unfortunately I think it's gonna take at least another edition before they're playable without spending a fortune and still be fun.

  • @JEDIMIKETTV
    @JEDIMIKETTV 6 месяцев назад +18

    I loved all the casting combinations at IEM K! You & ZG sounded sooooo good together and Pig does such a great job hyping up big moments. I'd love to see a tiny hydra buff as they are my favorite zerg unit from the lore.

  • @CoolTI-Daniel
    @CoolTI-Daniel 6 месяцев назад +14

    I suck at SC2, but as a Starcraft1 veteran, I can safely say that's Starcraft1 strategy. Which is what I was doing when I was trying zerg in SC2 and... yea didn't work out for me.
    SC1 was Hydra, ling Defiler using the dark swarm and later Guardians.

  • @marctestarossa
    @marctestarossa 6 месяцев назад +21

    46:20 the shadow of the space marine centipede in the water looks awesome

  • @I_am_ENSanity
    @I_am_ENSanity 6 месяцев назад +56

    Watching Scarlett's POV at 2x speed is quite the sight.

  • @mwn3d_
    @mwn3d_ 6 месяцев назад +4

    The "Pro View" style in game 2 was cool! It's interesting to see what they see so you can talk more about exactly what they are thinking.

  • @AGElite87
    @AGElite87 6 месяцев назад +4

    Man you look away then back at the game and Scarlett already rolled out the red carpet of creep all the way to the terran base 😮.

  • @enriquegarciacota3914
    @enriquegarciacota3914 6 месяцев назад +14

    I am really enjoying the "technical review" today, Lowko. I wouldn't mind more of this!

  • @ianstitzlein9416
    @ianstitzlein9416 6 месяцев назад +6

    I have been waiting 14 years for mass hydralisks to become a thing.

    • @francescob.3019
      @francescob.3019 11 дней назад +1

      it’s not a thing, hydras are pretty bad, scarlett has said it repeatedly, she’s just trolling

  • @DarsusD
    @DarsusD 6 месяцев назад +3

    hope you cover that crazy dark game with the 50 mutas. the whole tournament was an absolute banger

  • @aytviewer2421
    @aytviewer2421 6 месяцев назад +3

    Mass Hydra was a common strategy in the OG StarCraft 1 !!!! It rocked.

  • @IridiumKarra
    @IridiumKarra 22 дня назад

    I love watching scarlett, she always brings such silly and creative play to the table when most others are afraid to try something new. This is also incredibly fun because hydras are still my favorite unit and have been since sc1 so its nice to see them get some love.

  • @sashamakeev7547
    @sashamakeev7547 6 месяцев назад +4

    I feel like Harstem showed in recent video that even if there are tanks shooting at your hydra its not that scary. Hydra worked wonderfully for him.

    • @Elundrilll
      @Elundrilll 6 месяцев назад

      protoss player that drops hydra into terrans main bases i love that guy

    • @erict8109
      @erict8109 6 месяцев назад +1

      He did a whole video on this strategy

    • @chi7818
      @chi7818 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah it was pretty OP

  • @ir0nthund3r
    @ir0nthund3r 6 месяцев назад +4

    Lowko: "peak nerdy life-style"
    Me, listening before going to sleep: *vigorous giggles*

  • @CzedrickCatan
    @CzedrickCatan 6 месяцев назад +34

    Nah, old intro is better 😂😂

    • @GiuseppeSan
      @GiuseppeSan 6 месяцев назад +4

      My favorite part of the old intro is the "and VVVELCOME back to *high pitched voice crackles* aNotHeR prOfesSioNal mAtcH *end crackling* of Starcraft 2!"

  • @migsygerzky2109
    @migsygerzky2109 6 месяцев назад +6

    "for 14 years now, ever since 2010"
    Oh god, I am getting old

  • @tahmkenchusta5852
    @tahmkenchusta5852 6 месяцев назад +2

    25:00 lol, how did you know? I was preparing a map for our dnd campaign

  • @rastkozecevic3695
    @rastkozecevic3695 6 месяцев назад +1

    Marc (uThermal) was quite successful with fast ling/hydra drops in the opponent's main base, in his Zerg cheese series, hydra's dps is insane.

  • @user-ok2op9jg1f
    @user-ok2op9jg1f 6 месяцев назад +3

    Don't know who won Katawce.. All my SC news comes from lowko usually 😅😂

  • @mnemosineastral3626
    @mnemosineastral3626 6 месяцев назад +3

    0:01 Ok, i know Lowco is there BUT Who is Lowco?!

  • @gageschlabaugh2329
    @gageschlabaugh2329 6 месяцев назад +1

    I do like to see the pro's POV. TY Lowko keep up the great work, I am viewing from Colorado:)

  • @fresard29
    @fresard29 6 месяцев назад +1

    Loved the 1st person view in the 2nd game

  • @BennyKsBandwidth
    @BennyKsBandwidth 6 месяцев назад

    I want to see Lowko have a series where he plays Day9 or older players that haven't been in the SC2 scene in a while

  • @user-yo2du5kp3y
    @user-yo2du5kp3y 5 месяцев назад

    9:34 thats what magnus carlsen does in championships of chess. He throws his oponent off with unconventional openings so they dont know what to do in early game.

  • @ricefd
    @ricefd 6 месяцев назад

    I still remember lowko's old intro of "hello everyone, my name is lowko and welcome back to another match of starcraft 2"

  • @yerbool
    @yerbool 6 месяцев назад +7

    The Queen of Blades can reach the hotkey 9 with her long fingers.

    • @lelouchvibritannia7809
      @lelouchvibritannia7809 6 месяцев назад

      Or, maybe she evolves a brain and rebinds hotkey 9 to Q

    • @jamessteele7010
      @jamessteele7010 6 месяцев назад +4

      I always wondered why she has such long fingers, I’ve never seen a woman with hands like that

  • @greyfox999
    @greyfox999 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the upload Lowko. I missed this match from the tournament.

  • @Fairplayyyy
    @Fairplayyyy 5 месяцев назад

    I love watching videos about games that I don't understand at all, listening to the narrator, reading the comments and trying to understand what's going on

  • @emilfacebook
    @emilfacebook 6 месяцев назад +2

    Love the Vsauce tribute intro lmao

  • @pop5678eye
    @pop5678eye 6 месяцев назад

    One of the major changes I hated back when SC2 launched was that one of the most iconic units of the zerg suddenly became a minor support unit. I'm so glad there are still some players who can surprise opponents with them.

  • @doommarine861
    @doommarine861 6 месяцев назад

    Lowko: "Your probably painting you Warhammer Figurines"
    Me: How tf did he know that??? *scans the room for cameras*

  • @Zikuth
    @Zikuth 6 месяцев назад +1

    Silly me was wondering if you were going to cover Katowice at all. This is going to be awesome! 🎉

  • @JM-pq1rs
    @JM-pq1rs 5 месяцев назад

    I like to watch the pro side, but I usually slow it down lol. Real nice seeing how they control the insanity

  • @Malacite
    @Malacite 6 месяцев назад

    I'm not convinced her Hydra gameplan is as bad as Raynor thinks.
    Honestly, had she just gotten even a couple more Vipers she probably would have overrun that front door in the first game much sooner since it was only really the tanks that were giving her grief.
    The ultras were absolutely a mistake, more Vipers and maybe a few more drones to keep the mining up.
    Impressive map control as usual from our local legend ❤ nice to see Scarlett still on top of her game.

  • @jp-vega
    @jp-vega 6 месяцев назад

    7:36 that tumor placement speed, damn!

  • @WilliamBoller
    @WilliamBoller 6 месяцев назад +1

    I actually liked the Scarlett-view analysis!

  • @ameribeaner
    @ameribeaner 6 месяцев назад

    Focusing on one player at a time is excellent for educating new players on the game. It's a great idea to help show what the player sees and has seen regarding their decision-making and what they missed in relation to their mistakes. You should do it more often.

  • @Natasnoctem01
    @Natasnoctem01 6 месяцев назад

    Painting my World Eaters while running this Video on my macbook.
    Lowko: "you might be painting your Warhammer Figures"

  • @bunco8710
    @bunco8710 5 месяцев назад

    25:08 I feel personally attacked.

  • @TheMasterhomaster
    @TheMasterhomaster 6 месяцев назад

    44:23 10 banelings = a couple to LowKo.

  • @rockyalters1242
    @rockyalters1242 6 месяцев назад +6

    I liked the player POV on the second game. I think it's valuable when used sparingly, but seeing the screens of various top-level players and giving a more in-depth explanation of timings on supply, upgrades, various buildings, and so on for different Build Order Strategies is handy for gaining better insight into some of the more granular aspects of the game that we don't get from a broader "bird's eye" view of the replays.
    Probably not something that should be done often, but a great bit of variety in your already quality casts.

  • @Evallandercomingsoon
    @Evallandercomingsoon 6 месяцев назад

    "Some of you may be painting figures or drawing anime"
    Me, having just opened photoshop: ....

  • @gizmobrooch8577
    @gizmobrooch8577 24 дня назад

    They should just give the hydra a little more attack speed or something. Hell maybe even add their version of a stim pack, like from the zerg story.

  • @Spartsou
    @Spartsou 6 месяцев назад

    Lowko: I'm going to cast this game in Scarlet's POV this game
    me: *Serral's match versus MaxPax PTSD intensifies*
    lol, not as bad though

  • @filippovisco
    @filippovisco 6 месяцев назад +4

    Fantastic cast. Between a live cast and analysis. Love the choice of using Scarlett's point of view.

  • @Xxantoss
    @Xxantoss 6 месяцев назад +3

    I found the scarlett POV unwatchable, and having no information from spirit, told me very little of that game. Not a fan of doing this.

  • @Peter-hx3im
    @Peter-hx3im 6 месяцев назад

    Hyrda's melt so fast, but the marines usually had med-evac and tank support. I'm curious how the hydra's would trade if they had lurkers and queens supporting them.

  • @Fjordgnu
    @Fjordgnu 6 месяцев назад +1

    Lowko, you bastard. 25:15 I literally had to turn around from my Warhammer painting to post this. I feel spied upon and called out.

  • @M0r7r3d0r
    @M0r7r3d0r 6 месяцев назад

    Literally painting my WH minis and I did not expect to get called out like that

  • @corvusstorm3050
    @corvusstorm3050 5 месяцев назад

    NEW mass Hydralisks oh my! Something she's done before!

  • @jordanespinosa2508
    @jordanespinosa2508 6 месяцев назад

    Look, you don't need to call out my Mechanicus like that.
    *Is painting Cawl*

  • @F4R207
    @F4R207 6 месяцев назад

    Nailed it *looking down on all the paints and miniatures*

  • @waldschratler
    @waldschratler 6 месяцев назад

    "Sometimes people are like, oh yeah, higher APM equals better skill. Not neceSERRALy!" I see what you did there! :D

  • @CreepingDeath_
    @CreepingDeath_ 6 месяцев назад

    I love using hydras in just about every situation, even if they get countered. I feel hydras are under utilized in a lot of the videos I see. but hydra zergling lurker is such an iconic combo for me.

  • @IPWNBXRmash
    @IPWNBXRmash 5 месяцев назад

    scarlett always playing home court with that creep spread hhah

  • @lukearmistead7328
    @lukearmistead7328 5 месяцев назад

    I can't help but wonder if this build is Scarlett trying to prove that Zerg aren't completely inert in tier 2 or midgame.

  • @BloodstarDE
    @BloodstarDE 6 месяцев назад

    Watching a cast is as nerdy as watching super bowl

  • @WillTheFarter
    @WillTheFarter 5 месяцев назад +2

    the fact that you say she is crazy. might as well call marines "cheerleaders" and ultralisks "faeries" . This insanity needs to stop. It ruins everything it touches!

  • @Markfr0mCanada
    @Markfr0mCanada 6 месяцев назад +1

    25:00 I feel a bit personally targeted. I'm watching this while I wait for the paint to dry on my Warhammer models before I go for the next coat.

  • @AmateurGameDeveloper
    @AmateurGameDeveloper 5 месяцев назад

    How did he know that I am now painting my Warhammer miniatures?! 😰

  • @Erebus2075
    @Erebus2075 6 месяцев назад +1

    also mass hydra+bane is the only units you dont auto lose vs. 5+ghost at top play.
    so yer obv. if its a game with T that goes beyound the 5-8 + ghost then its mass hydra banes ^^

    • @Erebus2075
      @Erebus2075 6 месяцев назад

      20:22 if only we could zoom out this much :P

    • @Erebus2075
      @Erebus2075 6 месяцев назад +1

      whenever one say "who is the better player" its Always whoever is not playing Terran, as Terran takes 300+ less mmr to do the same as p and z ;)

  • @Imkaje
    @Imkaje 6 месяцев назад

    I theory crafted this like 8 years ago. Hydras have twice and hp, and twice the supply of a marine, so if they had the same amount of damage they would go 1 for 1 against a marine, but they actually have twice the damage as well. So 50 hydras > 100 marines of same supply. Hydras are also faster. The only difference is the support. Marines have medivac for healing, and tanks for backline splash damage. I guess you can micro infestor for splash to replace tanks? Thats really hard to do though, and hydras are only faster if on creep.... Plus hydras cost a lot more than marines, and theres no way to heal them up. Queens are inefficient on bunches of small units. So on paper its great! But only someone like scarlett could hope to pull it off.
    On the other hand. Hydras are the only unit that ghosts don't counter! lol

  • @archiew168
    @archiew168 6 месяцев назад +1

    I don't play competitively but why is APM a metric? clicking the same thing over and over and click moving the same thing back and forth to get APM means what? I'm genuinely curious.

  • @martinalejandrovillanuevag4587
    @martinalejandrovillanuevag4587 6 месяцев назад

    The player perspective is fire. Love the POV.

  • @myrhev42
    @myrhev42 6 месяцев назад +1

    No arrow on the thumbnail? What’s going on?

  • @amadmucid5498
    @amadmucid5498 6 месяцев назад

    Im expecting an attack upgrade timing hydra build, seen a harstem vid some days ago and it seemed strong

  • @Nurriek
    @Nurriek 6 месяцев назад

    I think it's likely we see roach-ravager-hydra again soon if this proves effective.

  • @nar2130
    @nar2130 6 месяцев назад

    @23:22 Actually I'm grinding out Job classes in Final Fantasy Tactics: Nice easy no time limit about anything RPG

  • @jomoju
    @jomoju 6 месяцев назад

    Old school Starcraft/Broodwar strategy , hydra+defiler (hydra+Infestor)

  • @tyrellwreleck4226
    @tyrellwreleck4226 6 месяцев назад

    There is this 5.2k steamer who masses hydra every zvt game and he is very successful with it. With 3,3 hydra and 4 vipers, it's pretty much very hard to defend

  • @SolusEmsu
    @SolusEmsu 6 месяцев назад

    As someone who off-races Zerg, I love Hydralisks! It might be because of SC1.
    Out of curiosity, what would you do to buff or fix the Hydra? What do they need in order to stop being so "bad"? Do they need more health? Damage? Range? Lower cost?

  • @djingiskhan4581
    @djingiskhan4581 6 месяцев назад

    After that intro, I am 100% sure that this video is a government AI project! hahaha

  • @iTris666
    @iTris666 6 месяцев назад

    Harstem made a video recently on how strong fast hydras +1 are

  • @saintmikeyg3417
    @saintmikeyg3417 6 месяцев назад

    So to counter this as Terran. Would mixing mines in with the tanks help?
    Place the mines out front of the main force in the chokes. Try and soften the waves.
    Or is that not cost effective enough, then Zerg just switches strats, or trips mines early

  • @cjfletcher325
    @cjfletcher325 6 месяцев назад

    Yea my general noob rule for myself is if you let siege tanks get set up on your front door it’s GG.

  • @enriquegarciacota3914
    @enriquegarciacota3914 6 месяцев назад

    I love hydras. It is a bit unfortunate that they are so high on the tech tree for what they do, and that they need support from other units (ling/bane early, later infestors and vipers) in order to be viable against most regular compositions.

  • @ToxicFume
    @ToxicFume 6 месяцев назад

    Honestly if they just gave hydras a bit more hp, there would be a lot more play for that units outside of just using them for lurkers.

  • @RobinTheBot
    @RobinTheBot 6 месяцев назад

    She's attacking his build order! She forces a bunch of choices that suck against her later game.
    That's why she got aggressive... If that play didn't work out she'd lose!

  • @kacperszafranski2983
    @kacperszafranski2983 6 месяцев назад

    I just noticed Scarlett has 'GRAVE' as all army hotkey...

  • @jx1200
    @jx1200 6 месяцев назад

    I hope you'll cover the Bunny/Clem series from Katowice

  • @Willdreynolds870621
    @Willdreynolds870621 6 месяцев назад +1

    always wondered. i play with my Razar Naga mouse where my hot keys are on my thumb (1-12/SHIFT 1-12). is that allowed in competitive play? or is it standard mouse?

  • @dylanbr
    @dylanbr 6 месяцев назад

    I like the strategy analysis from a player POV! Ty lowko

  • @MetPhD
    @MetPhD 6 месяцев назад

    Very nice. Thanks!

  • @paulcato3434
    @paulcato3434 6 месяцев назад

    I needed to take a motion sickness pill before watching that 2nd match.

  • @juddcarreon9236
    @juddcarreon9236 6 месяцев назад

    Lowko: "One of the scariest things you can do to an RTS gamer is to force them to..."
    I thought he was going to say 'play turn-based strategy' 😂

  • @Fueled93
    @Fueled93 6 месяцев назад

    Keep mixing in first person view, it's a fun variation :)

  • @tristanhightower1215
    @tristanhightower1215 5 месяцев назад

    @Lowko IDK what I just watched... Scarlett's strategy is old; I played against it on Korean servers and thought it was the norm for them but I'm from the US and the ping was too real. Maybe the build order was different but definitely seen that before; to be fair about 8 years ago.
    Agreed on her panic... game 2 was reactive and flawed on micro; could've pushed forward on hydras as some were dancing in the back towards the end making them useless but she had already given up.
    game 3 she didn't commit when she could have and would've won like 5 minutes sooner at least. Towards the end didn't fungal the medivacs - maybe she didn't have the energy but it looked like she did? Even then she F2'd pulling back from the third with all her forces she could've pushed into the second and likely won then. Especially if she made more banes.
    Also; when your prod gets killed for your main unit IMO the best thing to do would be gas up and try to get the structures back so that your bank is well placed.
    I had fun yelling at my screen though.

  • @tertozer3543
    @tertozer3543 6 месяцев назад

    The creep spread of Scarlett always and still fascinates me!

  • @insomnito
    @insomnito 6 месяцев назад

    feels like lots of hydras was more common about 10 years back

  • @davidvondoom2853
    @davidvondoom2853 6 месяцев назад +1

    A couple weeks ago I watched Harstem (the king of cheese) testing out this same hydralisk rush strategy. As soon as he had a mass of upgraded Hydras he was able to end the game quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if he suggested this build order to his team-mate Scarlett, who's taken past being a simple cheese strat.
    Also, that fact that Scarlett kept changing up her unit comp, in game 1, made it difficult for Spirit to hard counter her army.

  • @martin_1982_
    @martin_1982_ 5 месяцев назад

    Scarlet Made me dizzy. PLZ stay in control.

  • @JDivinorumVideo
    @JDivinorumVideo 6 месяцев назад

    Why do Hyrdas have less health than ghosts? They seriously need a buff.

  • @DirkusTurkess
    @DirkusTurkess 5 месяцев назад +6

    The balls on Scarlett to pull something like that off.

  • @chi7818
    @chi7818 6 месяцев назад

    Harstem made a video about this a little over a week ago and it was OP as shit. Hydras do so much dps and Harstem was just bullying his way through everything.

  • @anthonylaine6111
    @anthonylaine6111 6 месяцев назад

    Dans le premier jeux Scarlett a asphyxie l économie de spirit et elle avez un contrôle de la cartes quasiment impossible a battre pour spirit qui perdait c'est base des qu'il voulait sortir avec la propagation incroyable du Creep ❤❤❤

  • @denistimis2199
    @denistimis2199 6 месяцев назад

    lowko i do fr paint warhammer 40k while watching you videos :))

  • @prometheussybil8239
    @prometheussybil8239 6 месяцев назад

    Cool idea with the second game in 1P.