You are correct.. i tried the beta firmware to fix focus. Did not work. My action3 is now going back, and dji will send me a new (they will not fix mine) I love this camera. Hope the new will be fine.
I think you're spot on. Fixed focus and deep focus lenses have to be set at the correct distance off the image sensor and if everything is out of focus, it's not a firmware thing. Question: Could someone create an after market over lens to refocus the lens?
I guess someone "could" make an after market over the lens/lens to correct the out of focus issue, but for $329 a customer should not have to do that IMO. Really a shame as I really had high hopes for this camera, but that's why testing is SO important and then diving deeper to find out the possible issue.
I recently myself became a fan of Dji products, after years of previous holding back. That said I'd recently bought the Mini 2 because I was just sick of all the other manufacturers just lacking something, after taking a chance out of sheer frustration I received my Mini 2 and was pleasantly surprised. Just like that I became a fan, there was no turning back with such a fabulous little camera drone. Then I purchased a used Osmo action and likewise just wow. I was really looking forward to pulling the trigger a new Osmo action 3, but I definitely will be waiting to see how Dji handle correction of this issue. Thanks so much for your input, I happen to find it quite valuable and will be heeding caution until this is corrected, if its corrected that is.
I have been a fan of DJI for 6 years and MANY drones and cameras later, always happy with their products, this one has an issue and I hope they fix it for everyone. Mine went back today.
You are absolutely right on this.. i tried this with my Akaso V50x before and it got waaaaaay more clearer vids when i just adjusted my lens a little bit
I scratched the lens on an Akaso V50X and replaced it with a new lens from Amazon. I had to do what you just said, hook up the camera to my computer to see everything on the screen and then start twisting the new lens in to get it to focus right. Makes 100% sense! Total Recall Brother!! Thanks for the Intel ;)
It is known that this focus system is performed manually in the action camera at the factory, the same thing happens on any FPV camera, where there is that ring to correct the focus, however thanks for the video that explains it to those who were not aware of it. I believe that the question here is more complex. I am not a photography expert but I believe that the problem may instead lie within the group of lenses, which are obviously fixed inside the block that is rotated. Even achieving perfect focus for a distant enough subject if the lens group is poorly designed will result in a wrong focus at the 30cm declared by DJI. This is because classic infinity focus necessarily generates this problem, and more you want to have a ultra wide FOV, and the Osmo Action 3 has it, more you will have focus problems in close subjects. In my OA3 for example the distant subjects are in focus, but those at 50 cm absolutely not, and DJI declares at least 30 cm. Having said that I do not rule out that DJI has some lens groups, which for example should be 7 in the Osmo Action, not perfectly calibrated or even just badly designed. Therefore even by adjusting the ring by rotating it the problem in close subjects may remain. How is it resolved? With another well designed lens group and obviously at the correct distance from the sensor, so a firmware update cannot fix such a major hardware problem and perhaps unfortunately also by rotating the lens group. In fact today many smartphones have more than one rear camera depending on the subject you want to shoot. This is because the lens group is different depending on the FOV and the desired distance of the subject. Unfortunately this action camera, like almost all the others, does not have a motorized lens system so the focus will always be a compromise. So I'll wait for the new firmware, and sure enough that both software won't be able to fix it, I'll send my action camera to DJI to fix the problem. If they declare "over 30 cm" a subject at 31cm must be perfectly in focus, as well as one at 20 meters. My 2 cents... The evidence of the focus problem: ruclips.net/video/ZJycqvSeZXo/видео.html The lens inside the DJI Osmo Action 3: fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/news/22/09/dji-osmo-action-3-announced/inline/-1200/gsmarena_001.jpg
I remember DJI got a magnetive protective case for the old Action2 to help extend the video recording. If not a firmware update, I'm sure DJI will probably get creative at how they will improve the Action3
Thanks for the information... and we appreciate your findings and you are absolutely right about infinite focus... hope Dji correct the focus issue ASAP ...
Haha, no Josh, I did not destroy the Akaso just for this video, I had already worked on that cameras lens to remove the IR cut filter to repurpose that camera. The King? nope, but I do enjoy them !
That feeling when DJI Action series finally matches the image quality of AKASO cameras 😎😁😁 What you show about the lens is pretty good and works on some action cameras. But I believe the situation with DJI Osmo Action 3 is worse - maybe it is a combination between the image sensor, the chipset and the lens. My unit has similar image quality to yours, and there hasn't been any firmware update since I received it 3 weeks ago. On the other hand - whatever is wrong with Osmo Action 3 is an excellent opportunity for many people to think about the kind of RUclipsrs that they follow and truest, because the credibility of some has significantly dropped... I actually was surprised to see no DJI Action review by Faruk (iPhonedo). Looks like now we know that there's something seriously wrong...
I recommend trust no one. But you can get a general feeling, though if the person only share here with youtubes re - decoding to AV1, well thread / judge carefully, get your hands on original RAW footage DL it, and see if it live up to your expectations. Anyone can hit me up and ask for some raw footage in a given situation / environment, though i can of course not compile some winter footage in the middle of summer in Denmark. If it is dashcams which i mainly deal in, well there are another place to find me 😉 I am looking for a alternative to youtube, it is the only google related thing i use now, but so far i havnet found anything that catch my fancy.
I think you are right Andre. Action 2 and 3 both don’t ‘snap’. It’s quite obvious looking at pixels and it can’t be sharpened in post. Since they didn’t fix the 2, I don’t think the 3 will be any better.
Hey Ian ! I wish I was wrong, but I don't think so, I think the lens assembly was not calibrated correctly and from your video of the Action 2 and the 3 you would think that DJI knows about a lens focus issue on the 2 and fix it for the 3, unless they got a huge shipment of these lens/sensors assemblies at a big discount and figured they needed to use them all up. Really is a pity.
Such a shame. What I am uncomfortable with though is DJI looking the other way since the Action 2 emerged and not doing anything until someone comments. Makes you think that these companies are happy to sell poor products as long as no one mentions it; even if they might know themselves. Their testing gear MUST have detected something or are they really not bothered? Reminds me of GoPro Hero 9.
Always appreciate your videos. I, too, was excited for the Action 3. Ordered it from Amazon. It arrived today. I don't know if I should return it unopened or open it and try it out. Is there any likelihood that some early units had this problem, but others may not? I am torn by this.
@Scott Gibson That's the great thing about Amazon is their no hassle return policy for a defective item, with saying that, I am not sure about how many units are affected by this but after looking at roughly 50 videos in the past 2 days from other RUclips channels, all of them were very soft on focus especially the face when in a vlog scenario. Try it out and if you think it has a good focus and works great, I'll be jealous but happy for you !
@@WORTHITORNOT Yeah, but after so so many youtubers, such as yourself, mentioning the focus issue, I've decided to return it unopened. I have the original Osmo Action, but have been waiting years for this particular update. I'd hoped to make the OA3 my new workhorse. As you mentioned, DJI cameras are built like tanks. A good thing. And their ease of use is phenomenal. Ironically, I think what sealed it for me was a video from a youtuber in Orlando today comparing OA3 to A2 footage. He seemed satisfied with the video crispness and was going to keep his OA3. Such things are a bit subjective afterall, but it was his side-by-side videos which highlighted, for me, the greatest deficit in detail that the OA3 had. Now, I can't unsee it. If I kept the camera, that would always be in the back of my mind. If DJI figures it out, I would happily buy it again, but caveat emptor.
@@scottgibson6022 I totally understand, and I hate making videos like this as I really like DJI products, but with saying that, I also feel a responsibility to make people aware of these issues as a lot of people buy products off of my videos in the past. I’m sure DJI will eventually get this issue sorted out and once they do I’ll buy another one.
Thank you ! I would personally NOT use an action camera for indoor shots unless you have incredibly bright lights in your studio. I would recommend this one: amzn.to/3ywXPLE
totally agree with you, this same problem was moving elements (lens) in x3000. After bigger crash it loose part of focus. If they don't make service this all units, Go pro will get more new clients.
I wonder if some how at the assembly factory the wrong numbers were used to calibrate the lens to the sensor since there is room on the lens body to seat it closer or further away from the sensor as you demonstrated. Interesting.
got a sub from this granulated video. i'm awaiting for Osmo Action 3 as i type this. It's good to know that it's a potentially a user fix if one is willing to go for it. i'm willing to go for it outta the box. ive had to re-focus FPV cameras on tiny whoops and 5inch drones.
I was "slightly" tempted to get into the Action 3, but for that amount of money it was not worth messing it up hence why I'm just sending it back. Now if it was a $50-$80 action camera, I would have so gone into it and fixed the focus.
@@WORTHITORNOT Thanks for responding to my comment as well. I'm wondering if this is affecting the entire line or is it a percentage. Camera conspiracies review shows extreme blurriness at highest res compared to the Original osmo action as well.
@@WORTHITORNOT I asked for a refund but was declined as 2 days out if there 14 day return policy here in the uk , now I’m awaiting the dedicated team to asses my issue !
@@BorderRambler I would push the issue with a supervisor at DJI as I'm sure the UK also has retail laws regarding defective devices that do not work as intended.
Thanks for the video, great explanation......too bad I didn't see your video before I bought my Osmo action 3. I did some side by side test shots with my old Hero 8 and the Osmo is so out of focus compared to the hero 8. I sure wanted to have a new action cam that wasn't a GoPro. Again Thanks.
Thank you! Got mine today, opened it and tested it to compare with my Original action 1. I used both to shoot video same location. The action 1 was by far the better camera. The 3 was not clear and out if focus. Back in the box for return tomorrow. What a disappointment!
hi! WORTH IT OR NOT?, love this detailed explanation. based on this though, is it not as simple as for DJI to fix this during their production or assembly? Example just screw in or out a bit more until it is properly focused? (if its not a bigger lens issue) I was thinking that if this was a simple screw adjustment, then maybe new batches will have the ideal focus already. This could mean like I could wait it out until maybe January for Feb 2023 for the new batches to be out in the market already. Was really looking to buy my first action cam with OA3 but im really bummed out by this issue.
@@winstonperez Well I have not opened the Action 3 to look around but on virtually all other action cameras you screw in/out the lens to adjust focus but you have to take great care to cut through the glue as you can break a lens easily and there are no replacement lenses on the market for the Action.
Don't believe that is fixable with a firmware. If there's a fix, the image quality will be degraded further. One of issue is with the larger 1/1.7" that narrows that focus range. They could have compensate it with a wider fisheye lens like the Gopros with a 6-8mm range.
Very interesting video. Thanks for your clear explanation on this. I just got mine yesterday. I’m curious to see how they address this issue. This is my first action camera and I was really excited about it
Let's hope that I am wrong and DJI can fix this issue, I'm not going to hold my breath but if they do fix it within the next 2-3 days ( I have to send it back by then) then I will definitely do an update video !
I shot an entire trip camping in peak district on this camera and the entire trip is soft out of focus The whole trip is on my channel of this camera Great explanation
I was doing that Hacks since my first action cam 😂 it was the go pro hero 3 … I did it to get more macro … so now this hacks is back again after 10 years 😊
Watched another review by Tamara Gabriel, she noticed softness in certain modes. Basically wide and no EIS provide crisp footage, standard view degrades the image and EIS even more, so maybe it could be a firmware problem. Or there's a bad batch with factory focus setting fail.
I saw her video too and while the focus was slightly better with Rocksteady off and in super wide, it was still soft. I hope it can be fixed via firmware update hence why I’m hanging onto mine for a few days before the deadline to send it back via my instructions just in case it does get resolved. If so you can bet I will post an update video, but from my testing, I think my conclusions are correct.
I bought the osmo action 3 adventure combo my thirst action camera I was so disappointed with the image quality.. I decided to return it.. Wish you well
One of the reasons why I usually wait for your reviews before I buy anything. I have the 1st version of this camera and absolutely love it! I was really looking forward to this version (esp since they went back to the OG form factor); however, I can't buy this product with this issue. Thank you for your work!
Well could be the problem and thanks for showing and eplaining people what was on your mind. But it would have been a verry messy fault if it's truly this... But I've mentioned it before, I think companies nowadays are only bussy with achieving deadlines. You probably get this kind of mess then. There's a comparisson on YT of a guy (Camera Conspiracies) which is testing the GoPro 11 against the OA3. And actually the OA3 seems to much sharper there, even with verry near closeups (even when looking to backgrounds). But both show this blurry/ plasticcy effect on the face. Almost like there's somekind of filter over it as also some phones seem to do with their selfiecameras.
Terribly sorry that we totally messed up the physical design. Here is some in camera sharpening to try and hide the problem. Thanks. DJI Customer service.
I have the same problem, how can dji say things like that and making it our problem on resolving this manufactureing problem. This should be recalled and send a refund or a corrected batch. This is disappointing.
I tend to believe it's the elements inside the lens assembly itself out of spec, which is even worse. I think the lens itself is out of calibration, and what we're seeing is the closest it could be gotten with garbage in. Why? Because we would see some in focus if even by accident given the tolerences on the thread lockdown. 1 or two degrees here and there are bound to happen, and yet that doesn't matter either. The same principle applies though. Good software and good sensors can do nothing more than expose how bad the problem is. They can never fix either one.
Your move DJI. I can't see a recall happening either. Best we can hope for is them silently releasing cameras with the focus set correctly, a firmware update to try and sharpen up an out of focus image would be a disaster.
But is the front housing cover also not adjusted/made to fit the lense adjustment perfectly? So it closes around the lens perfectly at this specifict "focal distance"? It seems to be of the same outer material of the housing, it doesn't looks like a soft material like a rubber or silicon like material that will compensate slightly on possibe (small) adjustments. So when the lens will be adjusted, there will also a difference in height and the front cover will not "seal" or "fit" annymore. Adjusting the lens more towards the sensor will give no problem. There will be only a slight gap (probabably that small that you even don't be able to tell, and it will be covered by the lens pretection glass. Or it's possible to just fill it up with a propper rubber or silicon seal). But when adjusting to the other side, they will have a problem and a chalange to face. Then it probably will mean that they need to redesign or adjust the frontcover too I guess?
@@WORTHITORNOT A micro mm is verry, verry small :) If it's only a matter of micrometers, than it 'll not be that big problem quickly no. And otherwise they would be able to mill a fraction away with a special constructed mill easily I guess. But I see some problems with firmware if this fixed focus will actually be the problem. Let's say that they're going to fix the fixed focus with newer batches. Then they will get some problems with firmware if they're trying to correct an out of focus camera with the same firmware releases as that of a camera with a corrected focus. So they'll have to make some choices there then.
Bro i was trying to adjust the lens in dji osmo Action 3 and i messed up and lens for damaged can you tell me what type of lens used in action 3 and every info you have .
I don’t have any real info except DJI has their own specific lens thread size. Might want to send them an email if they can sell you a replacement lens
@@WORTHITORNOT Thanks for replying and i already asked them but they refused to do that so i ordered a used Dji osmo Action 2 for the lens i think they both have same lens .
Makes me feel a little better about buying a second Osmo 1 not realising the 3 was coming. I suppose they will fix it on future Osmo 3 models. They should do a recall though. It's worth it for customer loyalty.
@@WORTHITORNOT At the risk of boring you to death!... The leading bike lock company Krptonite did a massive recall in the 90's or noughties when some smartass discovered he could open their locks with a plastic biro. They redesigned their locks and sent a brand new lock to any customer with the old key chamber. This went on for years and must have cost them a fortune. I was one of those customers. I still buy their products.
@@awilderireland That’s great to hear. I’ve had different experiences with DJI in some cases and I just checked Amazon stock of this camera and my rep said they have heard nothing from DJI about an issue with the camera and they’ll start shipping to customers in 2 days.
@@WORTHITORNOT yeah I thought that was down to something AI based due to the close subject in the centre. I hadn't noticed the issue in your other vids. Watched other youtube reviews that actually mention the fault and read the thread on the DJI forum about it. This has saved me wasting time and money sending it back after ordering. Thanks.
Yes, I saw another channel use one to fix the focus, but, why in the world would we the consumers have to buy anything to make a product work? DJI needs to own this issue and offer replacements asap with NEW working units
There do seem to be a lot of talk on the net of the Action 3 and OOF I can not belive the original OA had 11 mm thread,,,,, i have never heard of such a lens, the 12 mm fine thread lens / mounts are also called S mount in the CCTV game Refocusing such a lens, which at least in the old days with dashcams you might have to do, well near focus or far focus, you probably just need to turn the lens a few degrees to get back in focus, so before doing anything it is a very good idea to make a mark of some sorts so you at least have the set off point. After that it is a game of trail and error, i usually test out my living room window, adjust a little, film a little - adjust a little, film a little. Then i look at my recordings to see if the focus are at " notch " 1 or 2 or 3 The problem with the action cameras is they are a even larger PITA to deal with, the dashcams tend to be easier,,,,,, though in both that daml glue used are still a SOB to deal with. If your focus slide and stay you can refocus, if your focus slide with camera temperature, you probably need to replace the lens entirely.
I forgot to say if the camera have a HDMI output, well then you can of course connect a big TV and then live go hunting for the focus sweet spot, just i am so used dealing with dashcams that often only had / have a AV out, and as they are low RES, well not of much use then looking for the focus sweet spot. Anyways, you should not have to do refocusing of a new expensive camera, so send your camera back and get a new one or a refund. PS; I am not getting a new action camera before i can get 1000 FPS slow motion, at 1080 p would be fine
It’s amazing DJI wouldn’t admit the issue and leave it up to honest reviewers to detail the issue. But GoPro never admitted fault for the Karma Drone debacle, but at least they issued a public recall of all the drones, something DJI should have done IMO
Just contacted DJI Support and here's their response: "After testing and analysis, our engineers found that this issue is caused by a larger internal parameter that some cameras have. This issue can be optimized through firmware updates." :)
Well that’s what they said with the last firmware update and all it did was add sharpening. One of my friends sent his in and DJI said that due to larger internal parameters his was going to be REPAIRED. :)
Legit assumption which makes me feel like I did the right decision with the gopro 11 even if I told myself I'm never gonna buy another goprpk product after I had so much trouble with the gopro 9 issue you mentioned too! It is a shame that gopro never did anything about it. They changed my hero 9 like 4 times and each new unit had the audio issue. Finally they told me "it doesn't make sense to change it again because every unit has this issue". This was the point where I said no more gopros. But with the hero 11 I did not experience any issues yet besides the app connection isn't working all the time. Anyway, I hope gopro deserves its second chance. Thumbs up, keep up the good work
I wish I saw this when I was buying the thing, you knew before anyone else - as a rule I avoid buying consumer electronics right when they come out, in this case I didn't and so I reminded myself why... oh well, I ended up fixing it myself - as well as many other people did it seems. ruclips.net/video/uN_6SIkRxCk/видео.html
@Brain Allen Why would I want to go to the hassle of using a "corrective lens" for a product that should focus as intended? Not trying to be rude at all, just seems like a waste if the customer has to correct a companies problem.
I looked at all the "Big" RUclipsrs who got the camera early and watched their videos and all of them were soft on focus. Let's see how this pans out and how DJI handles this going forward.
@@WORTHITORNOT oh and not one of them thought to say this is much softer than gopro wtf :( I took it camping with me and shot three whole days on it ok I'm tiny channel get few views but it smacked me in the eye this was no where close to gopro no way it should be that bad. Good job they didn't send me a camera lol 😆
@DFW Spyder Moose I got an email from DJI basically stating that "some" of the Action 3's lenses are out of spec for focus and to return mine for an exchange or refund, I went with the refund.
@@WORTHITORNOT Interesting. This is the first admission I have heard so fingers crossed it will get addressed. I would love to buy one if they sort this.
The depth-of-field in the Action 3's extreme wide angle lens is extensive. It's virtually impossible for it to be "out of focus". Construction would have to unbelievably sloppy. The resolving power of the 3's glass falls behind the GoPro 11's lens, but in my opinion it's more than "sharp" enough. RUclips is often the home of much ado about nothing! But we will see...
@@WORTHITORNOT Very good video indeed. The depth of focus you've shown from your Action 3 lens certainly doesn't begin at around 30cm. I'd suspect the firmware is more of a PR response than anything else. Software can't impact the physical construction and limitations of a lens. The depth-of-field is fixed. 30cm is somewhat optimistic. See video below. ruclips.net/video/POdUiBcQSJ8/видео.html
No firmware update will be able to update focus, so what I suspect DJI will do is release another update which will just increase sharpness. That'll lead to sensor noise and overcompression. After colour-grading it might as well have a smaller sensor. DJI make better products than Go Pro, but like Go Pro, they're too big to give a shit about their consumer base. There's also issues with the drones. The Air 2s is a shit-show when it comes to compression. If you check my videos, yea, I've had some good footage if I do say so myself but as an anal videographer, I'm a pixel chaser and notice these problems. DJI actually admitted that using ND filters will introduce sensor noise so I'm pretty miffed how a company can make such a mistake.
This guy here seems to have a decent one to my interpretation. But I'm not an expert on this field. The OA3 even seems to look more sharp then the GoPro there. Seems to be there's more sharpnes and detail in his sweater, but also the trees and bushes etc. just behind him on the OA3.
@@WORTHITORNOT it seems im lucky . but i use last updated too.and i record long.4-5 H on motorcycle and foot front helmet . no problem with wind or without wind
@@prmajiq I always update the firmware as they come out and the Hero 9 has crackling audio pops at the beginning of each video. GoPro even said there is an issue with the audio and for users to turn on the camera and wait 2 minutes before starting a video
Not going to buy a defective product until they fix this major issue. Someone on another RUclips already added a diopter to correct the focusing image.
@@WORTHITORNOT I exchanged it for another one at Best Buy yesterday and I think it looks the same. I believe I'm just used to a much sharper image from the Osmo Pocket 3 and other cameras.
For what it's worth, as many issues as I have with the DJI Action 2 bought right after it launched (it's a total shitshow and I wish I returned it when I could have), I have never had focus issues with it, as you mention another youtuber did. The image on my Action 2 is perfectly crisp - honestly a million times better than what I've been seeing from everyone's Action 3 reviews.
That's good to hear your Action 2 doesn't have a focus issue. Here's Ian's video comparing his Action 2 vs Action 3 :ruclips.net/video/273fjIm7FWk/видео.html
as a dji user i'm so hesitant to buy this osmo 3...almost everything in the video in youtube said the lens was out of focus. Quality Control is not good here, in osmo 3. if some people have updated but still not changed, means production failed. 😕😕
From a few friends of mine that also have the Action 2, they all mentioned their cameras are out of focus and they all informed DJI about it with no real resolution. Someone in QC definitely got fired !
@@WORTHITORNOT Not enough people have been fired, apparently! LOL Even the Phantom Series drone cams suffered from this inconsistency. This is nothing new. It's so odd. You can imagine the QC on a drone being much more difficult that that of cameras. They have somehow reversed that.
Original comment here is not appearing on other devices. (Except originating device) Just wondering what is going on. It's happed here recently in the the past. If it's not you or a ?hacker or ?youtube. Strange, & concerning... ? Just checking Andre. Thanks.
@@Tom_A.K. Weird, I know a buddy of mine said he would comment on channels, the comment would be there, then gone when he went back. Was it from your phone or desktop?
Android phone account. Someone just advised me that RUclips sometimes treats (...) (period placement) as spam and deletes the comment. He said it especially happens in a livestream. So I'll watch how i use them. ...okay... 🦧🐵
I purchased mine from DJI about two weeks ago and it is fine.
Glad to hear they got it sorted out
You are correct.. i tried the beta firmware to fix focus. Did not work. My action3 is now going back, and dji will send me a new (they will not fix mine) I love this camera. Hope the new will be fine.
I really really really like this Action 3 and had high hopes for it, but with the focus being out this much, I have to send it back.
You hit the nail on the head, firmware can not fix this issue. Thanks for this video
I don't think a firmware update can fix this, I might be totally wrong, but I don't think so.
I think you're spot on. Fixed focus and deep focus lenses have to be set at the correct distance off the image sensor and if everything is out of focus, it's not a firmware thing.
Question: Could someone create an after market over lens to refocus the lens?
I guess someone "could" make an after market over the lens/lens to correct the out of focus issue, but for $329 a customer should not have to do that IMO. Really a shame as I really had high hopes for this camera, but that's why testing is SO important and then diving deeper to find out the possible issue.
Could it be fixed by taking the camera apart?
I think so but I didn’t want to risk damaging the camera
I recently myself became a fan of Dji products, after years of previous holding back. That said I'd recently bought the Mini 2 because I was just sick of all the other manufacturers just lacking something, after taking a chance out of sheer frustration I received my Mini 2 and was pleasantly surprised. Just like that I became a fan, there was no turning back with such a fabulous little camera drone. Then I purchased a used Osmo action and likewise just wow. I was really looking forward to pulling the trigger a new Osmo action 3, but I definitely will be waiting to see how Dji handle correction of this issue. Thanks so much for your input, I happen to find it quite valuable and will be heeding caution until this is corrected, if its corrected that is.
I have been a fan of DJI for 6 years and MANY drones and cameras later, always happy with their products, this one has an issue and I hope they fix it for everyone. Mine went back today.
You are absolutely right on this.. i tried this with my Akaso V50x before and it got waaaaaay more clearer vids when i just adjusted my lens a little bit
I scratched the lens on an Akaso V50X and replaced it with a new lens from Amazon. I had to do what you just said, hook up the camera to my computer to see everything on the screen and then start twisting the new lens in to get it to focus right. Makes 100% sense! Total Recall Brother!! Thanks for the Intel ;)
I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think so.
Man !!! I have had my hand on the order button a couple of times. Thanks for letting me know.
Just trying to figure out what is causing the focus issue and this is the only thing that makes sense.
👍👍🤙 2 thumbs up and a shaka for the explanation!! or maybe a front lens that can focus??
It is known that this focus system is performed manually in the action camera at the factory, the same thing happens on any FPV camera, where there is that ring to correct the focus, however thanks for the video that explains it to those who were not aware of it.
I believe that the question here is more complex.
I am not a photography expert but I believe that the problem may instead lie within the group of lenses, which are obviously fixed inside the block that is rotated.
Even achieving perfect focus for a distant enough subject if the lens group is poorly designed will result in a wrong focus at the 30cm declared by DJI.
This is because classic infinity focus necessarily generates this problem, and more you want to have a ultra wide FOV, and the Osmo Action 3 has it, more you will have focus problems in close subjects.
In my OA3 for example the distant subjects are in focus, but those at 50 cm absolutely not, and DJI declares at least 30 cm.
Having said that I do not rule out that DJI has some lens groups, which for example should be 7 in the Osmo Action, not perfectly calibrated or even just badly designed.
Therefore even by adjusting the ring by rotating it the problem in close subjects may remain.
How is it resolved? With another well designed lens group and obviously at the correct distance from the sensor, so a firmware update cannot fix such a major hardware problem and perhaps unfortunately also by rotating the lens group.
In fact today many smartphones have more than one rear camera depending on the subject you want to shoot.
This is because the lens group is different depending on the FOV and the desired distance of the subject.
Unfortunately this action camera, like almost all the others, does not have a motorized lens system so the focus will always be a compromise.
So I'll wait for the new firmware, and sure enough that both software won't be able to fix it, I'll send my action camera to DJI to fix the problem.
If they declare "over 30 cm" a subject at 31cm must be perfectly in focus, as well as one at 20 meters.
My 2 cents...
The evidence of the focus problem: ruclips.net/video/ZJycqvSeZXo/видео.html
The lens inside the DJI Osmo Action 3: fdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/news/22/09/dji-osmo-action-3-announced/inline/-1200/gsmarena_001.jpg
POW ! Why I always come to your channel regarding anything action camera related. Thanks for the information regarding the internals.
Thank you Steven !
This explains a lot. Thank you! No wonder my OA3, even with the latest firmware update, looks overly too sharp.
Glad it helped
I think DJI will release a creative lens like a contract lens or the front cover will be issued with a lens correction made
I remember DJI got a magnetive protective case for the old Action2 to help extend the video recording. If not a firmware update, I'm sure DJI will probably get creative at how they will improve the Action3
What a bummer. I was really looking forward to picking up one of these to replace my old SJ7 Star.
Thanks for the information... and we appreciate your findings and you are absolutely right about infinite focus... hope Dji correct the focus issue ASAP ...
We shall see
I'm waiting for DJI's statement re. the focus issue. It's a nice little product, hopefully we'd get an update abt this soon!
Damn, Andre destroyed an Akaso just to show us how action cameras work. You're the king of action cameras dude.
Haha, no Josh, I did not destroy the Akaso just for this video, I had already worked on that cameras lens to remove the IR cut filter to repurpose that camera. The King? nope, but I do enjoy them !
😭 Just cancel my ordre, so sad. But so glad i did find out this, be4 i was ? wtf. Ty. You are spot on
What a fantastic explanation and way to show us why you think it’s out of focus. I think you’re right.
I wish I was wrong, but I don't think so. Thanks for watching !
That feeling when DJI Action series finally matches the image quality of AKASO cameras 😎😁😁
What you show about the lens is pretty good and works on some action cameras. But I believe the situation with DJI Osmo Action 3 is worse - maybe it is a combination between the image sensor, the chipset and the lens. My unit has similar image quality to yours, and there hasn't been any firmware update since I received it 3 weeks ago.
On the other hand - whatever is wrong with Osmo Action 3 is an excellent opportunity for many people to think about the kind of RUclipsrs that they follow and truest, because the credibility of some has significantly dropped...
I actually was surprised to see no DJI Action review by Faruk (iPhonedo). Looks like now we know that there's something seriously wrong...
Yes, when Faruk releases a video on oa3, we'll know there's a fix.
I recommend trust no one.
But you can get a general feeling, though if the person only share here with youtubes re - decoding to AV1, well thread / judge carefully, get your hands on original RAW footage DL it, and see if it live up to your expectations.
Anyone can hit me up and ask for some raw footage in a given situation / environment, though i can of course not compile some winter footage in the middle of summer in Denmark.
If it is dashcams which i mainly deal in, well there are another place to find me 😉
I am looking for a alternative to youtube, it is the only google related thing i use now, but so far i havnet found anything that catch my fancy.
Nice simple explanation of what the issue might be. Thank you, I just cancelled my order until DJI get's this sorted out.
It's really a shame, as I had high hopes for this camera. Thanks for watching !
@@WORTHITORNOT I canceled mine as well. I'm glad these videos are showing up in my feed.
This is a great informative tutorial video showing us step by step how these action cameras lenses work and why the action 3 might be out of focus.
Thank you Ken, it's just "my" idea of why the focus might be so off on the Action 3. I truly hope DJI can get it sorted out.
@@WORTHITORNOT From what I have seen, a recall is the only answer
I think you are right Andre. Action 2 and 3 both don’t ‘snap’. It’s quite obvious looking at pixels and it can’t be sharpened in post.
Since they didn’t fix the 2, I don’t think the 3 will be any better.
Hey Ian ! I wish I was wrong, but I don't think so, I think the lens assembly was not calibrated correctly and from your video of the Action 2 and the 3 you would think that DJI knows about a lens focus issue on the 2 and fix it for the 3, unless they got a huge shipment of these lens/sensors assemblies at a big discount and figured they needed to use them all up. Really is a pity.
Such a shame. What I am uncomfortable with though is DJI looking the other way since the Action 2 emerged and not doing anything until someone comments. Makes you think that these companies are happy to sell poor products as long as no one mentions it; even if they might know themselves.
Their testing gear MUST have detected something or are they really not bothered?
Reminds me of GoPro Hero 9.
@@iancraig Ahh yes, the Hero 9 and the "snap/crackle/pop" audio :)
Exactly. Just look the other way and it’s not there!
@@iancraig 🙂
Damn, that was a nice detailed video, I never knew that’s how they are focused. Glad you’re getting your money back.
Me too as this would have been a $329 paperweight or I would have to tear it apart to fix the issue which I DON'T want to do :-)
Always appreciate your videos. I, too, was excited for the Action 3. Ordered it from Amazon. It arrived today. I don't know if I should return it unopened or open it and try it out. Is there any likelihood that some early units had this problem, but others may not? I am torn by this.
good question.
@Scott Gibson That's the great thing about Amazon is their no hassle return policy for a defective item, with saying that, I am not sure about how many units are affected by this but after looking at roughly 50 videos in the past 2 days from other RUclips channels, all of them were very soft on focus especially the face when in a vlog scenario. Try it out and if you think it has a good focus and works great, I'll be jealous but happy for you !
@@WORTHITORNOT Yeah, but after so so many youtubers, such as yourself, mentioning the focus issue, I've decided to return it unopened. I have the original Osmo Action, but have been waiting years for this particular update. I'd hoped to make the OA3 my new workhorse. As you mentioned, DJI cameras are built like tanks. A good thing. And their ease of use is phenomenal. Ironically, I think what sealed it for me was a video from a youtuber in Orlando today comparing OA3 to A2 footage. He seemed satisfied with the video crispness and was going to keep his OA3. Such things are a bit subjective afterall, but it was his side-by-side videos which highlighted, for me, the greatest deficit in detail that the OA3 had. Now, I can't unsee it. If I kept the camera, that would always be in the back of my mind. If DJI figures it out, I would happily buy it again, but caveat emptor.
@@scottgibson6022 I totally understand, and I hate making videos like this as I really like DJI products, but with saying that, I also feel a responsibility to make people aware of these issues as a lot of people buy products off of my videos in the past. I’m sure DJI will eventually get this issue sorted out and once they do I’ll buy another one.
Perfectly explained. What camera would you recommend for an indoor studio static camera?
Thank you ! I would personally NOT use an action camera for indoor shots unless you have incredibly bright lights in your studio. I would recommend this one: amzn.to/3ywXPLE
totally agree with you, this same problem was moving elements (lens) in x3000. After bigger crash it loose part of focus. If they don't make service this all units, Go pro will get more new clients.
I wonder if some how at the assembly factory the wrong numbers were used to calibrate the lens to the sensor since there is room on the lens body to seat it closer or further away from the sensor as you demonstrated. Interesting.
Awesome video, as always! Excellent explanation!
Thanks Patrick, I wanted to show how the lenses are focused on these action cameras as a lot of people don't know.
got a sub from this granulated video. i'm awaiting for Osmo Action 3 as i type this. It's good to know that it's a potentially a user fix if one is willing to go for it. i'm willing to go for it outta the box. ive had to re-focus FPV cameras on tiny whoops and 5inch drones.
I was "slightly" tempted to get into the Action 3, but for that amount of money it was not worth messing it up hence why I'm just sending it back. Now if it was a $50-$80 action camera, I would have so gone into it and fixed the focus.
@@WORTHITORNOT I think you're making the right call. We need to see what, if any, their response is going to be
@@WORTHITORNOT Thanks for responding to my comment as well. I'm wondering if this is affecting the entire line or is it a percentage. Camera conspiracies review shows extreme blurriness at highest res compared to the Original osmo action as well.
Good explanation and you could be right ,and if this is the case Dji need to recall these cameras
If I'm right, DJI should do a recall/replacement asap for all of their customers.
@@WORTHITORNOT I asked for a refund but was declined as 2 days out if there 14 day return policy here in the uk , now I’m awaiting the dedicated team to asses my issue !
@@BorderRambler I would push the issue with a supervisor at DJI as I'm sure the UK also has retail laws regarding defective devices that do not work as intended.
@@WORTHITORNOT I will as it’s a poor show from Dji
good info, hope DJI will fix it in near future
Me too !
Thanks for the video, great explanation......too bad I didn't see your video before I bought my Osmo action 3. I did some side by side test shots with my old Hero 8 and the Osmo is so out of focus compared to the hero 8. I sure wanted to have a new action cam that wasn't a GoPro. Again Thanks.
Sorry to hear you’re experiencing the same thing many others are.
@@WORTHITORNOT It sucks, but at least there are guys like you out there explaining what is going on 👍🏻
Thank you! Got mine today, opened it and tested it to compare with my Original action 1. I used both to shoot video same location. The action 1 was by far the better camera. The 3 was not clear and out if focus.
Back in the box for return tomorrow. What a disappointment!
I’m sorry to hear that, but just know that you’re not alone !
hi! WORTH IT OR NOT?, love this detailed explanation. based on this though, is it not as simple as for DJI to fix this during their production or assembly? Example just screw in or out a bit more until it is properly focused? (if its not a bigger lens issue)
I was thinking that if this was a simple screw adjustment, then maybe new batches will have the ideal focus already. This could mean like I could wait it out until maybe January for Feb 2023 for the new batches to be out in the market already. Was really looking to buy my first action cam with OA3 but im really bummed out by this issue.
I’m also bummed by this.
@@WORTHITORNOT on my question though, is it as simple as just adjusting the screw?
@@winstonperez Well I have not opened the Action 3 to look around but on virtually all other action cameras you screw in/out the lens to adjust focus but you have to take great care to cut through the glue as you can break a lens easily and there are no replacement lenses on the market for the Action.
Don't believe that is fixable with a firmware. If there's a fix, the image quality will be degraded further. One of issue is with the larger 1/1.7" that narrows that focus range. They could have compensate it with a wider fisheye lens like the Gopros with a 6-8mm range.
Very interesting video. Thanks for your clear explanation on this. I just got mine yesterday. I’m curious to see how they address this issue. This is my first action camera and I was really excited about it
Let's hope that I am wrong and DJI can fix this issue, I'm not going to hold my breath but if they do fix it within the next 2-3 days ( I have to send it back by then) then I will definitely do an update video !
refocused wyze cam yesterday - was 1/4 turn off- had hot melt glue i cut away
I shot an entire trip camping in peak district on this camera and the entire trip is soft out of focus
The whole trip is on my channel of this camera
Great explanation
I was doing that Hacks since my first action cam 😂 it was the go pro hero 3 … I did it to get more macro … so now this hacks is back again after 10 years 😊
Watched another review by Tamara Gabriel, she noticed softness in certain modes. Basically wide and no EIS provide crisp footage, standard view degrades the image and EIS even more, so maybe it could be a firmware problem. Or there's a bad batch with factory focus setting fail.
I saw her video too and while the focus was slightly better with Rocksteady off and in super wide, it was still soft. I hope it can be fixed via firmware update hence why I’m hanging onto mine for a few days before the deadline to send it back via my instructions just in case it does get resolved.
If so you can bet I will post an update video, but from my testing, I think my conclusions are correct.
@@WORTHITORNOT Yes very possible that there's a manufacturing glitch. I'll have to check the Chinese forums too.
@@StirfriedGerman Please let me know if you find anything interesting in those forums
@@WORTHITORNOT Ok found one video in Chinese on Bilibili, near focus problem on OA3, a replacement solved the problem apparently .
I bought the osmo action 3 adventure combo my thirst action camera I was so disappointed with the image quality.. I decided to return it.. Wish you well
One of the reasons why I usually wait for your reviews before I buy anything. I have the 1st version of this camera and absolutely love it! I was really looking forward to this version (esp since they went back to the OG form factor); however, I can't buy this product with this issue. Thank you for your work!
Thanks for watching !
Well could be the problem and thanks for showing and eplaining people what was on your mind. But it would have been a verry messy fault if it's truly this... But I've mentioned it before, I think companies nowadays are only bussy with achieving deadlines. You probably get this kind of mess then.
There's a comparisson on YT of a guy (Camera Conspiracies) which is testing the GoPro 11 against the OA3. And actually the OA3 seems to much sharper there, even with verry near closeups (even when looking to backgrounds).
But both show this blurry/ plasticcy effect on the face. Almost like there's somekind of filter over it as also some phones seem to do with their selfiecameras.
Terribly sorry that we totally messed up the physical design. Here is some in camera sharpening to try and hide the problem. Thanks. DJI Customer service.
Haha
This sums it up perfectly.
I have the same problem, how can dji say things like that and making it our problem on resolving this manufactureing problem. This should be recalled and send a refund or a corrected batch. This is disappointing.
I tend to believe it's the elements inside the lens assembly itself out of spec, which is even worse. I think the lens itself is out of calibration, and what we're seeing is the closest it could be gotten with garbage in. Why? Because we would see some in focus if even by accident given the tolerences on the thread lockdown. 1 or two degrees here and there are bound to happen, and yet that doesn't matter either. The same principle applies though. Good software and good sensors can do nothing more than expose how bad the problem is. They can never fix either one.
Thanks for the explanation!
My pleasure
So is there a way to recalibrate that outselves?
If you want to take it apart as I showed in this video
Your move DJI. I can't see a recall happening either. Best we can hope for is them silently releasing cameras with the focus set correctly, a firmware update to try and sharpen up an out of focus image would be a disaster.
Adding sharpening will never fix this far off of a focus issue. I hope DJI does the right thing for their customers.
Is this all of them or just some of them ?
From the videos I’ve seen online virtually all of them have this issue
But is the front housing cover also not adjusted/made to fit the lense adjustment perfectly? So it closes around the lens perfectly at this specifict "focal distance"?
It seems to be of the same outer material of the housing, it doesn't looks like a soft material like a rubber or silicon like material that will compensate slightly on possibe (small) adjustments.
So when the lens will be adjusted, there will also a difference in height and the front cover will not "seal" or "fit" annymore.
Adjusting the lens more towards the sensor will give no problem. There will be only a slight gap (probabably that small that you even don't be able to tell, and it will be covered by the lens pretection glass. Or it's possible to just fill it up with a propper rubber or silicon seal).
But when adjusting to the other side, they will have a problem and a chalange to face. Then it probably will mean that they need to redesign or adjust the frontcover too I guess?
Micro millimeters make a huge difference in focus
@@WORTHITORNOT A micro mm is verry, verry small :)
If it's only a matter of micrometers, than it 'll not be that big problem quickly no. And otherwise they would be able to mill a fraction away with a special constructed mill easily I guess.
But I see some problems with firmware if this fixed focus will actually be the problem. Let's say that they're going to fix the fixed focus with newer batches. Then they will get some problems with firmware if they're trying to correct an out of focus camera with the same firmware releases as that of a camera with a corrected focus. So they'll have to make some choices there then.
@@rockel83 Well you get what I'm saying, very minuet adjustments make a huge difference in focus with these lenses
Bro i was trying to adjust the lens in dji osmo Action 3 and i messed up and lens for damaged can you tell me what type of lens used in action 3 and every info you have .
I don’t have any real info except DJI has their own specific lens thread size. Might want to send them an email if they can sell you a replacement lens
@@WORTHITORNOT Thanks for replying and i already asked them but they refused to do that so i ordered a used Dji osmo Action 2 for the lens i think they both have same lens .
Makes me feel a little better about buying a second Osmo 1 not realising the 3 was coming. I suppose they will fix it on future Osmo 3 models. They should do a recall though. It's worth it for customer loyalty.
I agree, I wonder if they will recall all the Action 3’s they sent to Amazon? Something tells me they won’t
@@WORTHITORNOT At the risk of boring you to death!... The leading bike lock company Krptonite did a massive recall in the 90's or noughties when some smartass discovered he could open their locks with a plastic biro.
They redesigned their locks and sent a brand new lock to any customer with the old key chamber. This went on for years and must have cost them a fortune.
I was one of those customers. I still buy their products.
@@awilderireland That’s great to hear. I’ve had different experiences with DJI in some cases and I just checked Amazon stock of this camera and my rep said they have heard nothing from DJI about an issue with the camera and they’ll start shipping to customers in 2 days.
Just sent mine back for this reason, I spent a good 3 hours thinking it was my eyes. Such a shame as it's otherwise a great camera.
This is just close focus yes? What distance did it come into focus at?
Like I said in this video @4:16 even the trees in the background are out of focus so it's just not a close focus issue.
@@WORTHITORNOT yeah I thought that was down to something AI based due to the close subject in the centre. I hadn't noticed the issue in your other vids. Watched other youtube reviews that actually mention the fault and read the thread on the DJI forum about it. This has saved me wasting time and money sending it back after ordering. Thanks.
Can a screw in diopter fix this?
Yes, I saw another channel use one to fix the focus, but, why in the world would we the consumers have to buy anything to make a product work? DJI needs to own this issue and offer replacements asap with NEW working units
There do seem to be a lot of talk on the net of the Action 3 and OOF
I can not belive the original OA had 11 mm thread,,,,, i have never heard of such a lens, the 12 mm fine thread lens / mounts are also called S mount in the CCTV game
Refocusing such a lens, which at least in the old days with dashcams you might have to do, well near focus or far focus, you probably just need to turn the lens a few degrees to get back in focus, so before doing anything it is a very good idea to make a mark of some sorts so you at least have the set off point.
After that it is a game of trail and error, i usually test out my living room window, adjust a little, film a little - adjust a little, film a little.
Then i look at my recordings to see if the focus are at " notch " 1 or 2 or 3
The problem with the action cameras is they are a even larger PITA to deal with, the dashcams tend to be easier,,,,,, though in both that daml glue used are still a SOB to deal with.
If your focus slide and stay you can refocus, if your focus slide with camera temperature, you probably need to replace the lens entirely.
I forgot to say if the camera have a HDMI output, well then you can of course connect a big TV and then live go hunting for the focus sweet spot, just i am so used dealing with dashcams that often only had / have a AV out, and as they are low RES, well not of much use then looking for the focus sweet spot.
Anyways, you should not have to do refocusing of a new expensive camera, so send your camera back and get a new one or a refund.
PS; I am not getting a new action camera before i can get 1000 FPS slow motion, at 1080 p would be fine
Gotta wait and see how the update will fix this.
It doesn’t
Cannot believe that a huge company like DJI would put out a product that is slightly out of focus.
How do they expect to stay in business?
It’s amazing DJI wouldn’t admit the issue and leave it up to honest reviewers to detail the issue. But GoPro never admitted fault for the Karma Drone debacle, but at least they issued a public recall of all the drones, something DJI should have done IMO
GREAT! Thanks!
You bet!
I wonder if you cou.d just screw a corrective lens onto the front...
I guess you could, but why would we have to? DJI should have known this was an issue and fixed it way before ever releasing it.
Just contacted DJI Support and here's their response: "After testing and analysis, our engineers found that this issue is caused by a larger internal parameter that some cameras have. This issue can be optimized through firmware updates." :)
Well that’s what they said with the last firmware update and all it did was add sharpening. One of my friends sent his in and DJI said that due to larger internal parameters his was going to be REPAIRED. :)
@@WORTHITORNOT haha. Guess we're all gonna wait for the Osmo 4 then
6:09 🤣
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Legit assumption which makes me feel like I did the right decision with the gopro 11 even if I told myself I'm never gonna buy another goprpk product after I had so much trouble with the gopro 9 issue you mentioned too!
It is a shame that gopro never did anything about it.
They changed my hero 9 like 4 times and each new unit had the audio issue. Finally they told me "it doesn't make sense to change it again because every unit has this issue". This was the point where I said no more gopros.
But with the hero 11 I did not experience any issues yet besides the app connection isn't working all the time.
Anyway, I hope gopro deserves its second chance.
Thumbs up, keep up the good work
The Hero 11 is a solid performer ! I’m really sad about this Action 3 as I had high hope for it.
I wish I saw this when I was buying the thing, you knew before anyone else - as a rule I avoid buying consumer electronics right when they come out, in this case I didn't and so I reminded myself why... oh well, I ended up fixing it myself - as well as many other people did it seems. ruclips.net/video/uN_6SIkRxCk/видео.html
Could this be fixed with a corrective lens cover?
@@OTYYTO The corrective lens could be threaded for filters. It's not a great solution and it might not be even possible. Just spitballing mate.
6:12 hey...take my image down...😆 LOL. Quality control is a lost art worldwide.
@Brain Allen Why would I want to go to the hassle of using a "corrective lens" for a product that should focus as intended? Not trying to be rude at all, just seems like a waste if the customer has to correct a companies problem.
Was this not noticed by all those youtubers who had this camera before us? Or is this a batch thing?
I looked at all the "Big" RUclipsrs who got the camera early and watched their videos and all of them were soft on focus. Let's see how this pans out and how DJI handles this going forward.
@@WORTHITORNOT oh and not one of them thought to say this is much softer than gopro wtf :(
I took it camping with me and shot three whole days on it ok I'm tiny channel get few views but it smacked me in the eye this was no where close to gopro no way it should be that bad. Good job they didn't send me a camera lol 😆
很棒的解說
This is nightmare 😱
Wish I saw this video sooner.... thanks anyways 😥
Have they responded yet?
Only with beta firmware which hasn't fixed it.
@DFW Spyder Moose I got an email from DJI basically stating that "some" of the Action 3's lenses are out of spec for focus and to return mine for an exchange or refund, I went with the refund.
@@WORTHITORNOT thx. I’ve seen some say the the focus is better on super wide or standard. I’ll check mine tomorrow night
@@WORTHITORNOT Interesting. This is the first admission I have heard so fingers crossed it will get addressed. I would love to buy one if they sort this.
The depth-of-field in the Action 3's extreme wide angle lens is extensive. It's virtually impossible for it to be "out of focus". Construction would have to unbelievably sloppy. The resolving power of the 3's glass falls behind the GoPro 11's lens, but in my opinion it's more than "sharp" enough. RUclips is often the home of much ado about nothing! But we will see...
Please watch this video I made about the focus issue : ruclips.net/video/9UkI0MOAMcQ/видео.html
@@WORTHITORNOT Very good video indeed. The depth of focus you've shown from your Action 3 lens certainly doesn't begin at around 30cm. I'd suspect the firmware is more of a PR response than anything else. Software can't impact the physical construction and limitations of a lens. The depth-of-field is fixed. 30cm is somewhat optimistic. See video below.
ruclips.net/video/POdUiBcQSJ8/видео.html
Might be an explanation for why action 3 has soft image .
No firmware update will be able to update focus, so what I suspect DJI will do is release another update which will just increase sharpness. That'll lead to sensor noise and overcompression. After colour-grading it might as well have a smaller sensor.
DJI make better products than Go Pro, but like Go Pro, they're too big to give a shit about their consumer base.
There's also issues with the drones. The Air 2s is a shit-show when it comes to compression. If you check my videos, yea, I've had some good footage if I do say so myself but as an anal videographer, I'm a pixel chaser and notice these problems. DJI actually admitted that using ND filters will introduce sensor noise so I'm pretty miffed how a company can make such a mistake.
I am wondering if I should return my order.. this just put fear in me.
Try yours out and see if the video looks out of focus
I don't want to chance and have inferior product on my hands. Just got it today
@@imbalancedstatus8824 You could be one of the lucky ones and have a great camera
Most honest reviewer online have all shown poor focus issue or soft image
What is DJI saying, what is their reaction?
They said their engineers are aware of some cameras lenses being out of parameters and request the camera be returned.
I wonder if anyone got a sharp version? If not they all are gonna go back...
I checked out at least 50 videos in the past 2 days and they all seem to have soft focus especially on their faces.
This guy here seems to have a decent one to my interpretation. But I'm not an expert on this field. The OA3 even seems to look more sharp then the GoPro there. Seems to be there's more sharpnes and detail in his sweater, but also the trees and bushes etc. just behind him on the OA3.
I will not consider buying this DJI A3 now.
.testing...
🤦♂️and I just ordered one...
i have gopro hero 9. i have no problem with audio. maybe you have problem
Maybe you should do a search on RUclips about the audio popping noise at the beginning of videoing. There are thousands of people with the issue
@@WORTHITORNOT i told you. i dont have such problem with hero 9 🙃
@@prmajiq Okay , you’re one of the few
@@WORTHITORNOT it seems im lucky . but i use last updated too.and i record long.4-5 H on motorcycle and foot front helmet . no problem with wind or without wind
@@prmajiq I always update the firmware as they come out and the Hero 9 has crackling audio pops at the beginning of each video. GoPro even said there is an issue with the audio and for users to turn on the camera and wait 2 minutes before starting a video
Thank you for sharing that was interesting
My pleasure
Not going to buy a defective product until they fix this major issue. Someone on another RUclips already added a diopter to correct the focusing image.
Link to that video?
any link ?
Man this is gopro hero 4 all over again
My DJI OA4 is out of focus
That's very strange as my OA4 is spot on focus, you must have a defective one, definitely return it.
@@WORTHITORNOT I exchanged it for another one at Best Buy yesterday and I think it looks the same. I believe I'm just used to a much sharper image from the Osmo Pocket 3 and other cameras.
For what it's worth, as many issues as I have with the DJI Action 2 bought right after it launched (it's a total shitshow and I wish I returned it when I could have), I have never had focus issues with it, as you mention another youtuber did. The image on my Action 2 is perfectly crisp - honestly a million times better than what I've been seeing from everyone's Action 3 reviews.
That's good to hear your Action 2 doesn't have a focus issue. Here's Ian's video comparing his Action 2 vs Action 3 :ruclips.net/video/273fjIm7FWk/видео.html
Imagine a gopro recall and they have to fix or replace hundreds of thousands of cameras if not millions. Lol.
Haha, but Auto manufacturers do it all the time to fix “their” issues.
as a dji user i'm so hesitant to buy this osmo 3...almost everything in the video in youtube said the lens was out of focus. Quality Control is not good here, in osmo 3. if some people have updated but still not changed, means production failed. 😕😕
The only thing this points to is poor quality control (which has ALWAYS been the case with DJI cams).
From a few friends of mine that also have the Action 2, they all mentioned their cameras are out of focus and they all informed DJI about it with no real resolution. Someone in QC definitely got fired !
@@WORTHITORNOT Not enough people have been fired, apparently! LOL Even the Phantom Series drone cams suffered from this inconsistency. This is nothing new. It's so odd. You can imagine the QC on a drone being much more difficult that that of cameras. They have somehow reversed that.
I have a video on my channel on having to send mine back for refund
GoPro 11 - breaks down and overheats.
Mine hasn’t
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? I didn’t delete any comments
Original comment here is not appearing on other devices. (Except originating device) Just wondering what is going on. It's happed here recently in the the past. If it's not you or a ?hacker or ?youtube.
Strange, & concerning... ? Just checking Andre. Thanks.
@@Tom_A.K. Weird, I know a buddy of mine said he would comment on channels, the comment would be there, then gone when he went back. Was it from your phone or desktop?
Android phone account. Someone just advised me that RUclips sometimes treats (...) (period placement) as spam and deletes the comment. He said it especially happens in a livestream. So I'll watch how i use them. ...okay... 🦧🐵