Back then, there really wasn't much of a concept of an international human rights authority. The idea that countries interfere in lives of people in the interest of human rights is a new concept for the most part. In fact, that became a thing(barely) just after WWI, after the Ottomans fall.
Your damn right they did. Everybody new. It was all over the papers world wide Canada did fuck all till 1923 The summer of 1923 the first 50 Armenian boys to be accepted to Canada. One of those 50 boys was my grandfather. He was 9 years old when he arrived in Canada and put in an orphanage down in Ontario. .
You fool they are not Christian country but a democratic nation. If it’s then why you sanction Christians majority Venezuela 🇻🇪 ?? They already may get rich like Middle east GCC countries but sanctions made them failed
I am proud to be Armenian. The history of the Armenian genocide that this person told is 100% true. But the sad thing is that the Armenian genocide still continues, Turks with the hands of Azerbaijan attack Armenia and kill thousands of Armenians. Remember and recognise the Armenian genocide 🇦🇲.
The events of 1915 did not happen, but as can be understood from this comment, there will be no country called Armenia in 2030 and we will expel the armenians in Turkey. 🇹🇷🇦🇿
I am a grandchild of genocide survivors on both sides of the family, surviving different and harrowing tortures and trials. I am from Marash. I'm from historical Armenia, Adana
@@jackie_twirlsmarashlian6947 well don't forget what the Armenian militia did in anatolia, they are no saints as they proclaim, they committed horrible massacres in the villages in anatolia the evidence and mass graves they found are there but the armenians deny they did anything, like always 🙄 playing the victim is easier to swallow...
@@VedatKoc-r8m try to sell that to the rest of the world. turks, kurds, azeris, xerxes are all guilty of committing massacres and genocide. you can an azeri gar-bage acting as a turk, you are just a bar-king do-g trying to impress your turkic masters but you are just a product of muta'ah marriage. go find your father instead of talking nonsense.
@@VedatKoc-r8m and yet no proof of such massacres committed by "Armenian militias" has ever been found. Armenians had their personal weapons confiscated en masse during the war, Armenian soldiers for the Ottomans were often shot in front of their fellow men just for the suspicion that they were working against the Ottoman state. You are right about one thing, it is much easier to play the victim, which is why Turks like you do it so frequently.
@@VedatKoc-r8m45 years ago my freinds grandmother spoke about Whitney really happened . the russians armed armenians and you can imagine what tok place . Live and let live.
@@Karteryt67 who said that they weren’t? Armenia was actually the first Kingdom to adopt Christianity as their state religion (followed by Georgia and then Aksum or modern day Ethiopia and Eritrea.)
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Turkey wants us to call it Anatolia , but it was really the Armenian Highlands . By calling it Anatolia it conceals the fact that it was Armenia and original inhabitants , the Armenians living there . Anatolia is Greek term, it means Eastern Land(s) . It was just to describe direction of land but that land was Armenian Highlands . It is not just the Genocide of 1915 1.5 million murdered (now estimated closer to 2 million) or the estimated 300,000 Armenians massacred in the 1895 etc.. People need to understand and know the history that Turkey is misleading the world. Majority of Turkey and Azerbaijan you see today was Armenia . Even the northern edge of Iran was the Armenians. Around early 1200 AD began the migration of the Turkic Tribes from Turkmenistan area in Asia and settling in Armenia . When Ottoman Empire formed in 1299 AD , the Ottoman Turks conquered Armenia. This area was of great importance as it was central point of Europe , Middle East and Asia. After years of millions Armenians killed , when the Ottoman Empire fell you see today the new Ethnicity Turkey and Azerbaijan . Turkey today is not the exact same ethnicity as their original roots . Over the years they mixed with Armenians, Greeks, Hungarians etc… The original darker complexion and slight oriental eyes have now become more “European” features . In the time of mixing races , the Turkish ethnicity has evolved and taken foods from different cultures such as the Armenians, Greeks and other Mediterranean dishes. Armenian Rugs , even ancient Artifacts that belong to the Armenian ancestors , Turkey has changed the name to deceive . For example , the Gobekli Tepe, (12,000 years old) is Armenian monument and the original name is Porta Sar. This is why many historians have a break in historians and can’t connect the dots. But more are starting to know the truth and see evidence that Armenians that built the Kara Hunj, Porta Sar (Gobekli Tepe) , Karajan Tepe, etc.. in Turkey also built Karkas in france, stone henge in Britain and Calanais in Scotland . Sadly Turkey continues to bully , incriminate and murder their historians if they speak and teach the truth . Taner Ackam is Turkish historian who speaks the truth of Turkey. Azerbaijan , on the other hand was formed after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire , the Russian/Soviets took the Armenian land and distributed it to the new Azeri ethnicity . The Azeri are a mixed race of mostly Iranian, Tatar and Turkic . They claim to be of “Albanian” descendants that lived there (and different from Albania country) . But there is no historical fact or proof of such people existing there. The Armenians inhabited that land and later also the Iranians eastern half of Azerbaijan you see today . It’s insulting to see their lies when they show videos of Ancient Armenian monuments and Artifacts and claim to be “their ancestors” when the writing you see in there is clearly Armenian . Heck even their alphabet was created in the 1900’s . Both Turkey and Azerbaijan have an agenda to spread misinformation in Wikipedia and published false history books . But historians that know the truth are now growing in numbers and the missing history is once more being connected with the truth . I can only share what I found , it’s time for your to see the truth . Don’t just rely on bogus sites , video clips or Wikipedia . You heard the truth now you know what to research .
What nationalists don't understand is in the "Armenian Highlands" not just the Armenians, the Kurds and the Turks lived also. Thus calling it Anatolia is the best option because calling it Armenian Highlands casts shadow in the rich ethnic diversity of the region.
It is incorrect to claim that there was a significant Armenian population in Western Anatolia before the Turks arrived. While there was an Armenian population in Eastern Anatolia, calling the entire region "Armenian Highlands" is historically misleading. Moreover, a large portion of the Azerbaijani people are of Turkish origin, and Azerbaijani lands have historically been under the influence of Turkish states. Historical figures like Shah Ismail, the founder of the Safavid Empire, were prominent representatives of Turkishness. To reduce Turkish history to the borders of modern Turkey would be an injustice to the deep-rooted history of the Turkish nation. Even before the Soviet Union, Azerbaijani lands were inhabited by Turkish peoples. As for the claims that Armenians were massacred by Turks, while there are many debates on this matter, it should be noted that the Armenian relocation (Tehcir) carried out by the Ottoman Empire in 1915 was not intended as a genocide but rather to prevent possible rebellions and attempts to establish an Armenian state. At the same time, the atrocities committed by Armenian militias against the Turkish population should not be overlooked. These militias brutally tortured and killed innocent people, including women, children, and the elderly. For those seeking more information, I recommend reading Prof. Dr. Yusuf Halaçoğlu's book "Ermeni Tehciri" (The Armenian Relocation), which provides documents proving that the relocation was not a genocide. Additionally, the accounts of Timsal Karabekir, daughter of Kazım Karabekir Pasha, shed light on the atrocities committed by Armenian militias. In conclusion, it is important to approach historical events with a broader perspective rather than evaluating them from a single point of view. We must recognize the sufferings on both sides. The most accurate approach is to rely on historical documents and academic studies rather than popular historical narratives.
The Turks should pay MILLIONS OR TRILLIONS of compensation to the Armenians for the genocide and the denying of this genocide. God bless the Armenians abundantly.
@@meral5920 Armenians would go bankrupt..?? I think you don't the history. Fact is that the muslim Turks killed at least ONE MILLION Armenians in the 20th century. Turks denied this, but thanks to our Lord, we have testimonies and even a book WITH PICTURES of a German consul in Turkey. May God bless the Armenians abundantly.
Please consider contacting the US Holocaust Museum in DC asking for an exhibition on the Armenian genocide. The museum runs on federal funding and donations.
The conditions are different. Without foreign oversight and denazification efforts, Germany would most likely not recognize the holocaust. Almost all nations that perpetrate genocide at some point, tend towards denialism or willful ignorance for the survival of nationalism and the myth of innocence. No such foreign oversight happened in Turkey.
Agreed, and I think one of the many reasons why the Armenian genoside is still very much unknown or taught is that the Nazis actually kept records and accounts and documents and turned the holocaust into a science, where the turkish government to this day refuses to acknowledge their crimes.
I am a Jew and very much aware of the Millions of Armenians innocent civilians murdered by the Turks. I am also aware of the 12 Million Congolese murdered by the Belgians in the 19th century.
@@FAKEGHOTS Hi, Turkish Alibaba and son of muhta, The American Congress looked into the genocide of ARMENIANS by the TURKISH STATE. According to Congress you TURKS, committed GENOCIDE. By the way, there was a German consul in Turkey who saw it happening, wrote a book about it, with photos. So, mister FAKE, you're lying or have serious brain damage. And... Only JESUS can help you. Keep praying to our Lord and keep smiling.
A fasist, always believes that he can erase all his crimes. Same happened with the Germans in WWII, same in 1915 with the Turks against Armenians - Greeks - Assyrians, same in 1957-62 against Greeks. The history can be manipulated, can be altered somehow, but can never be disappeared. This will be a weight on his descendants who must work hard to prove that they are better people today.
What you said isn't true. History is written by winning side and if Turks had won WW -1, then we wouldn't have either known about this genocide or we would be taught the topic in a way that we ourselves would have justified this act. Same is the case with Hitler. Just to highlight, Winston Churchill was responsible for killing more than 4.3 million Indians during WW-II by diverting food from India and hence creating the famine, moreover their were more than 10 famine during British rule which killed millions more (at the same time making British Empire rich) and see, no one talks about them in West. Unfortunately, Indians haven't talked about it much either (probably we didn't wanted western economic sanctions right after getting independence). I hope Indians talk about it in future.
@@georgiossarantitis3208 I agree with what you said, Truth about the history is always there somewhere in books...but when it comes to knowledge of masses, then the masses knows only that information which people in power decides to spread. This is one reason people don't think of Winston Churchill in same lines as that of Adolf Hitler.
@@GauravSharma-lv7hz How do you know that your informatiion pertaining to Churchil being as bad as Hitler is accurate. Or in other words, how do you distinguish between misinformation and the actual truth?
The german ambassador in Ottoman Empire was informed about the situation and Germany tried to do something,but they were friends of the Turks and ga ve asylum to the person that ordered the relocation.The proud of the Turks is big and they do not want to pay for the mess.Nobody want to accept such a truth,but evidence is unfortunately for them hard.Even the Germans had old photos showing the atrocities!
The Ottoman Empire's existence is by far, the worst that has happened to the human race. No words can explain or justify the brutal slaughter parties that happened to the poor Armenians.
Some questions and comments: Were ethnic Armenians a minority in their historical land? Did the Russian (Tsar Nicholas) emperor help the Armenians, and not betray them, leaving unarmed people alone against the brutal Ottoman army through a cunning agreement with the Turkish leaders? Why did Germans supply canons and weapons to the Turkish government? Similar to NATO, which armed the Turkish government after World War II. Question to NATO - why? When Turkey was surrounded by poor countries. And the USSR was hardly able to attack the Turks, because Stalin had already given the Turks a huge part of the Armenian Highlands as a gift under the fraternal agreement of 1921. Facts: The 1911 census showed that the population of the Ottoman Empire was approximately 13 million. Ethnic Armenians about 4/4.2 million, Turks 5.5 million, ethnic Kurds 2.5 million, and other ethnic groups 1.5 million. 1.5 million were killed, 1.5 million remained unknown (fled or were killed), and the rest converted to Islam to survive. It is strange that non-ethnic nomadic tribes created an empire and became dictators over all ethnic groups living in the Armenian Highlands. According to the 2000 census, there were less than 30 thousand ethnic Armenians, 55 million Turks, 23 million Kurds, and the remaining 3/4 million. It was not only a terrible genocide but also a deliberately planned act of genocide to eradicate Christian Armenians. The Ottomans knew for sure that in 50 years there would be 20 million ethnic Christian Armenians, and they would demand freedom, and then the Turks could not have done anything else. For this reason, the Ottomans agreed with the Kurds and Germans to begin the fictitious resettlement of ethnic Christian Armenians as soon as possible. The Ottoman Empire precisely planned that during this fictitious migration, they should kill all the Armenians. Ethnic Kurds were promised the land of ethnic Armenians. The Germans were promised to control all roads from the Black Sea to Asia. The Turks promised Tsar Nicholas brotherly relations with the Ottoman Empire - no more war. Consequence: All nations living in Turkey increased approximately 10 times, but Armenians did not. .
Also, French, Great Britain and Italy also knew what was going on, they wanted the destruction of Ottoman Empire. They took over Arab land rich with oil.
@@Tamara-nn1wrThey did not care about the well-being of the Armenian nation. If that was in terms for their benefit, they would massacre all of the Armenians.
Where did you get the information that the Armenians of the Ottoman Empire numbered 4,5 million? Your arse? All sources put the number at 1,2 million to 1,5 million. Stop spreading bullshit, you cretin.
You miss an important point… why ottomans started to see Armenians as a treat after 800 peaceful years? And you also forgot to mention Armenian tashnak paramilitary activities and massacres in the region by the help of Russians to weaken Turkish possession in the region….
I hope my Armenians brothers get the justice they deserve and return to their homeland that is occupied now by the Kurdish settlers. Just one thing: It wasn't the Armenians who were the first community to convert to Christianity, this is a mainstream historical falsification. The first community to convert to Christianity was the Arab Abgarid dynasty that settled northern Syria around 134 BC, and also their city Edessa was the first Christian city in the world.
I will show you a proof of document that there was no genocide. The document number FO 371/6504/E.8519 (13.07.1921) Letter from the British Embassy in Washington to the Foreign Office stating that no evidence of the Armenian genocide was found in the American archives, and there is no hope of finding any.
Первым государством, которая приняла христианство как государственную религию была Армения. Первой общиной христиан была еврейская община. А царь Абгар тоже имеет отношение к Армении
I feel deep shame and sorrow for any park that my people Kurds played. I recognise it as a genocide and I weep with u. We must also remember the many Kurdish tribes that resistance the Armenian genocide and helped the Armenian. Many got killed while assisting the Armenians. There are countless stories of heroic efforts to Assist our Armenian brothers and for this i am proud. We love u today and weep for for your yesterday
Based on the flag on your profile i am guessing that you are not fond of Turkish people yourself and you may feel compelled to take the Armenian side, but you do realize that violence towards Armenians in the region by muslim locals (Kurdish and Turkish villagers) started because Armenian militia took arms against them first, not the other way around.
@@rastgelebiri932 and why do u think that is? Because the Turks tried to forcibly displace them and when they resisted it was mass murder and genocide. Youre ofc Turkish by the language you’re using and it really shows. Own up to your mistakes. It will always be genocide.
@@rastgelebiri932Stop using excuses! Even so, does it justify the punishment of an entire race?? Armenians were known as the “loyal nation of the empire” for your information!! The Young Turks broke our trust by promising more autonomy if we helped them overthrow the Sultan in the late 1890’s and Sultan massacred over 100K Armenians as a result. By 1909 it was obvious they had lied to the Armenians and more massacres began in Adana in 1909! So the Armenians saw the Russians as their saviors! And remember that Eastern Anatolia is our Ancestral lands and we were under occupation for 500 years! You support the Palestinian cause, right??
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How did I not learn about this in school?? Let’s honor all people not just Jewish holocaust victims but all genocide victims and survivors…. Angers me that this wasn’t seen as very important.
The events of 1915 did not happen, but as can be understood from this comment, there will be no country called Armenia in 2030 and we will expel the armenians in Turkey. 🇹🇷🇦🇿
Script:« Chances are you’ve heard the word “genocide” before. The Holocaust during World War II was considered an act of genocide, for example. But do you know the full definition ? The term “genocide” was coined by Polish lawyer Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book “Axis Rule in Occupied Europe.” It comes from the Greek genos-race and ethnity-and cide-murder. The United Nations defines genocide as the mass extermination of a group of people based upon that community’s race, religion, ethnicity or nationality with the intent to destroy (…) By the 19th century, Ottoman rulers began to view Armenian communities along the Russian border as a threat. Russia was a longtime enemy of the Ottomans. The Muslim community believed that the Armenians might turn on them if there were a war. So, Ottoman rulers attempted to dilute the Armenian community by resttling majority Muslim populations among them. In addition, some Turks and Kurds envied Armenians. They perceived Armenians as better off than themselves, with more wealth and higher literacy rates. Of course, this tension was based more on perception than fact. After the assassination of the archduke in 1914, major European states declared war on each other. The Ottoman Empire, under the control of the Turks, aligned with Germany and Austria-Hungary. They would fight against the Entente, including Russia. The war renewed Turkish beliefs that Armenians would turn against the Ottomans and fight alongside Russia. The Turks also believed that the Armenians and Christian groups were getting in the way of achieving a more Turkic, Muslim empire. In the early years of the war, Armenians alongside Turks and Kurds against Russia and the Entente. However, after losing a major battle against Russia in 1915, the Turks began to blame Armenians for the loss. Rumors soon spread that groups of Armenians were staging a rebellion. This created more hostility towards Armenians, both inside and outside of the military. In order to prevent rumored revolts, the Ottoman government ordered Armenian communities to be forcefully relocated from border areas and military fronts. Armenian soldiers had their weapons confiscated. Described as « sitting ducks », some of these men were sent to labor camps. Then hundreds were taken out to deserted areas and shot. As historian Ronald Grigor Suny wrote in “A History of the Armenian Genocide,” “What evolved rapidly into genocide “began as sporadic massacres “ that, following a colossal defeat, “resulted in political panic, despair, and a thirst for vengeance.” The extermination of the Armenian people had begun. Some Turkish officials in Istanbul tried to warn their Armenian friends. One official quietly told his friend, “A new storm is about to break upon the Armenians, so I hope that you will save yourself.” The recommendation was to leave for Europe immediately, without regard for property or investments. Many managed to escape ; some fled to Europe and others to America, but more horrors were to come. The relocation efforts soon turned into mass extermination, especially in the areas along the fronts and in rural provinces. Turkish and Kurdish soldiers forced whole families to march away from their homes. Their houses and possessions were later sold to the highest bidder. Bands of Ottoman soldiers marched through Armenian villages and tortured inhabitants. Armenian houses were robbed. Churches were stripped and religious icons left in the mud. Turkish officials attempted to justify this violence by stating that these acts were in retaliation for Armenian rebellion. They claimed that Armenians in the eastern provinces must be removed or eliminated. Fear and rumors continued to stoke the flames of violence. Some Armenians did rebel against the slaughtering of their people. This allowed Turkish authorities to justify increased removals and killings. One official ordered that all Armenian men over the age of 12 should be killed. Armenian women were raped and murdered or taken by Turkish men as wives. Small children became orphans. Some were adopted by Christian missionaries and others by Turkish families. Christians in other parts of the world, in particular Europe and America, heard reports of Armenian persecution Organizations were formed to provide aid to a Christian community thousands of miles away. Some ambassadors living in Istanbul worked to convince Turkish officials to stop the violence. Nothing seemed to work. The American ambassador to Istanbul, Henry Morgenthau, Sr., described events as « a campaign of race extermintation ». From 1915 to 1917, over one million Armenians died. Most were executed as they journeyed to labor camps. They were buried in mass graves or burned. Some resisted, but any resistance provided officials with an excuse to justify their actions. After the war, some of the Turkish leaders who ordered the killings were brought to trial but only a few were punished. Others escaped, mainly to Germany. In the years that followed, some of these men were assassinated by Armenians who sought revenge. To this day, the Turkish state maintains that the mass killing of Armenians did not happen or was justified. However, most major powers in the world recognize and memorize this period as the Armenian Genocide: the mass extermination of an ethnic or religion group»
You must read the book about the first Armenian president speech to learn the real history before blamimg Ottoman. Hovannes, the first Armenians president, was involve in the situation and witnessed the fact. He says Turks knew what to do and they did right, they have nothing to remorse today and future.
I literally just copied the text from the video to help my classmates and nothing else, without giving my opinion, so before typing your idiotic and irrelevant message, maybe pay attention to something in your life. Have a good day
@@elcactus4383 if you copied an information, you must write the source under the text. Else, it is called plagarizm and it is illegal. Maybe you should focus on your daily life duties rather than this kind of duties.
Burda Ermenileri masum gösterme gayretleri var.Birinci Dünya Savaşı yıllarında başta rus,ingiliz ve fransız hükümetlerinin silahlandırdığı Ermeni çeteleri müslümanlara karşı tam bir katliama girişimler.Şehirleri(Van),kasabalarda,köyleri basarak insanları vahşice katlettiler.Toplu mezarlar bulundu Bulunmaya devam ediyor.Ermeni çeteleri Rus ordusu ile savaş halinde olan türk ordusunun iaşe hatlarını vurdular.Türk ordusunu zor duruma düşürdüler.Osmanlı hükumeti müttefiki almanlarında baskısı ile meclisten göç kanunu çıkartıldı.1915 ocak ayından itibaren anadolunun doğusunda yaşayan ermeniler Türk askerinin gözetiminde güneye Suriye topraklarına sürüldü.Kürt çeteler intikam hırsıyla ermeni kervanlarını vurup mallarını yağmalama bazılarını işledikleri suçlardan dolayı öldürdüler.Birçok ermeni soğuktan,açlıktan ve Suriye çöllerinde susuzluktan öldü.Osmanlı arşiv belgelerine göre 53 000 ermeninin ölümü rapor edilmiş Buna karşılık 530 000 müslüman ermeni çeteleri tarafından katledilişinin.Tarihi çarpıtamazsınız.Soykırım yalanları tarafsız tarihçiler tarafından kabul edilmiyor.Bu yalan kampanyanız tutmaz
More like 1.6 million murdered between 1915 - 1917. And you should talk about all the genocide events committed by Turkey and their little cousins Azerbaijan... Bayazet, 1877, 1,400 Alashkert, 1879, 1,250 Alexandria, 1881, 2,000 Sasun, 1894, 12,000 Constantinople, 1896, 9,570 Van, 1896, 8,000 Hamidian massacres, 1894-1896, 300,000 Sasun, 1904, 5,640 Young Turk Revolution, 1908, 250,000 Adana massacre. 1909, 30,000 Conflict in the Balkans and Russia. 1912, 500,000 Van and Western Armenia, 1915, 1,600,000 Kars, Ardahan and Alexandropol. 1918, 100,000 Cilicia, 1919, 50,000 Kuvayi milliye, 1918-1920, 200,000 Sushi massacre, 1920, 50,000 Baku pogroms, 1990, 3,000 Sumgait, Baku, 1988-1990, 1,000 Kirovabad, 1988-1990, 1,000 Sumgait, Baku, Kirovabad, 1988-1990, 200,000 evicted Maragha, 1992 Artsakh war attrocities, 2020, 7,000
Mr. V , learn Armenian history please.. and thank you the Armenian Legion of the Wehrmacht in war against USSR, hoping that if Germany succeeded in conquering the USSR, they would grant Armenia independence. After that Adolf Hitler personally stated, "I don't trust the Armenians." Historian:Tacitus Book : annalivm libri Maneuvering between larger neighbours, the Armenians gained a reputation for deviousness; the Roman historian Tacitus called them an ambigua gens (“ambiguous people”). A This word may mean "doubtful or uncertain K.Patkanov, the famous Armenian historian, the Armenian scholar: “the Armenians have never played a particular role in the history of mankind. It is not a political term, but the name of a geographical province with scattered Armenian settlements. The Armenians have always been bad owners of lands, where they lived, but they could skillfully served the strong and betrayed the people close to them…”. (“Van inscriptions and its meaning for Front Asia”, 1875.). • 1862: Zeitun Uprising (Ottoman Empire) * * 1894: First Sasun Resistance * 1895 October: Zeitun Rebellion * * 1889: Bashkale clash (Ottoman Empire) * * 1896 August 26: Ottoman Bank Takeover * * 1905-1907: Armenian-Tatar massacres of 1905-1907 (Russian Armenia) * * 1905 July 21: Yıldız assassination attempt * Ottoman sultan (king) * 1914 November 1: Bergmann Offensive. Drastamat Kanayan and second battalion of the Armenian volunteers (Caucasus Campaign) * 1914: Battle of Sarikamish. Hamazasp (Srvandztian) and 3rd battalion. Keri (Arshak Gavafian) and 4th battalion. (Caucasus Campaign)
1,6 millions armenians were murdered ? Between 1905 -1918 5 Millions Turks were murdered including kurds,lezgis,talishes,jews by arnenians in territories in Anatolia and Azerbaijan. Now 30000 armenians are living in Baku 50000 armenians are living in Azerbaijan territory karabakh but no one Azerbaijanis in karabakh , no one Turk in armenia . armenians did ethnic cleansing in nagorno karabakh, armenians with russians committed genocide against AzerbaijaniTurks in Khojali 26th February 1992. now Azerbaijany territory nagorno karabakh under the occupation of armenians and russian occupants. Who did genocide ?
@@Bozok3ok you and your people are guilty of crimes. enough with your lies. a nation and a religion of crimes, when are you going to see you blind ya ibnel sharmouta
I grew up in the US, and am probably the only person who has read a book or two on the issue. The tension between Turks and Armenians during the late Ottoman Empire era is a complex historical issue. Turkish newspapers at the time reported that Armenian revolutionary activities were causing instability, attacks on towns, and fires in cities and barns. These stories, whether accurate or exaggerated, fueled resentment and mistrust among many Turks who perceived Armenians as siding with the Empire's enemies, particularly during World War I. As distrust grew, the Ottoman government decided to relocate the Armenian population, ostensibly to prevent further unrest and separatism. However, this forced relocation was poorly executed, and many Armenians were attacked by mobs, suffering from hunger, disease, and harsh conditions, resulting in numerous deaths. Some compare this relocation to the U.S. government's forced relocation of Native Americans to Oklahoma in the 19th century, which also had tragic consequences. However, the nature and intent of the events involving the Armenians are highly debated. Many international historians recognize it as a genocide, while others, particularly in Turkey, argue against this classification, attributing the deaths to wartime chaos and mob violence rather than state-sponsored extermination. The events of 1915, also known as the Armenian Genocide, remain a sensitive and disputed topic, particularly regarding intent and execution. Nonetheless, it significantly strained relations between Armenians and Turks and shaped both groups' national consciousness in the following years. For further reading, consult books like "The Armenian Genocide: A Complete History" by Raymond Kévorkian and "A Shameful Act" by Taner Akçam, which explore both perspectives in detail.
What a shameless human you are Mr Chihan Vural, shame on you for not feeling pain, empathy for the 1. 5 million extermination of Armenians( humans) because human life matters as much as yours.... and you shamelessly try to joke on this and be ignorant wow, with this said you show your armenophobia, and show that you yourself could do this kind of acts and kill innocent lifes, because denying the facts and truth is also a form of killing....
Spot on, but want to emphasis that this genocide mainly occurred as the turks wanted a pure muslin state , not because the Armenians were of any threat to them. To this day this crime has not been punished, the turks still do not acknowledge what they did as they do not want to repay or give land back to the Armenians. Instead they support current (as in 2023) military actions being conducted by Azerbaijan (another Turkish state) to kill more Armenians and take whatever land Armenians still have. The world should condemn Turkey and Azerbaijan and stop these atrocities.
While you’re at it, why don’t you also condemn the people that destroyed Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc…..? Oh yeah, I know why, because those are Muslim countries. Sick of these hypocrites!
The events of 1915 did not happen, but as can be understood from this comment, there will be no country called Armenia in 2030 and we will expel the armenians in Turkey. 🇹🇷🇦🇿
Evils began to kill all children and women in Anatolia to establish Great Armenia by the help of Evil States... Evil killed 519000 civilians and so forced to deport!
For people who does not know I will try to explain in English. First of all the very term Anatolia is older than Turkish presence in Anatolia. The word itself has its roots in ancient Greek. On top of that Armenian presence in Anatolia increased during Turkification of Anatolia which begins around the year 860 and continues to this day. Before Turks started migrating into Anatolian plateau it was under the rule of Eastern Roman Empire and they were not kind to Armenians to say the least. Even at one point they were seen as public enemies and presecuted. So when Turks under the rule of Seljuks decided to face Eastern Roman Empire in Manzikert, there were Armenian mercenaries in Seljuk army. This was a start of a long lasting relationship among Turks and Armenians. Turks took over Anatolia pretty quickly. Seljuks, after facing several waves of crusaders and a Mongol invasion, left their place to Ottomans. During Ottomans Armenian population was reveared respectable and they were even given a title which was "Millet-i sadık-a" which you can translate to the "loyal nation". But Ottomans were an islamic empire so they were only allowing muslims to join the army until the very end. So during foundation, rise and fall of the Ottomans non-muslim citizens of the empire were mainly focusing on crafts or trades. But all that's changed in late 19th and early 20th centuries. In 1789 French revolution took place and with it the ideal of Nationalism was spreading all over Europe like rapid fire. Greeks revolted and backed by Europeans they gained their independence in year 1832. That was followed by some others like Bulgars and Serbians or Romania. This episode of history meant constant war for Ottomans. During this episode Muslim Turkish population of Anatolia was basically diminished. Armenians did not rebel against the Empire during this period. One of the reasons for that was that they were very well established by that time, they had money, they held monopolies on certain trades, they were becoming high ranked military or government agents and so on. They were even able to send their kids to Europe for education. In early 20th century Ottoman Empire changed its approach towards non-muslim entities within the empire. They were no longer excluded from the military service, they have lost their minority privileges. Then started The Great War. Those Armenian kids who were sent to Europe for education started forming political bands such as Dashnak Sutyun or Hinchaks with one goal, which was to carve an Armeian country out of the weakening Ottoman Empire. In order to reach their goal those extremists started revolting in certain places, they assasinated Ottoman government officials abroad and homeland, they even tried to assasinate the sultan himself by planting a bomb on his vehicle. On parallel to that they initiated guerilla warfare in Anatolia. They were killing military, government and civilians alike and destoying villages in hopes of scaring off what's left from already divindling muslim population from Anatolia. They were sabotaging communications, destroying roads, bombing trains. All during World War 1. Even enlisted Armeian youngs were deserting the Ottoman army to join the Russians and so on. At one point they were even able to capture the city of Van and they held the city for a long time after massecaring the muslim population, to later deliver the city to the Russians. All before 1915. While these horrid things were happening in Anatolia, Russia was struggling and their allies had only two option to bring help to them. One was through Baltic sea which was protected by Germans, the other and only reasonable option was to bring the aid through Dardanels and Bosphorus narrows while taking the Ottoman capital hence isolating Germans. But something unexpected happened, Turks were defending their capital with everything they got, so the greatest armada known to history failed to reach its goal and Russia was forced out of the war. Bolshevik revolts took place and Russians decided they already had too much on their plate so they abondaned the Easten front. This was bad news for the rebelious Armenians. They've had lost their biggest sponsor. At this point WW1 was still going on, but Ottomans were losing on many fronts. They have had already lost Libya, Egypt, Hijaz, Yemen, Palastine or losing. They had to act fast so in 1915 they decided to move the Armenians out of the sensitive zones; which was the entire Anatolia, excluding Istanbul and Arab provinces; to be safe, just in case if Russia decided rejoin the war. The forced migration order issued and Armenians were forced to move to Syria, away from the eastern front. During this migration Ottomans tried to prevent losses but they couldn't really protect those people from the elements. First revenge killings took place, people were reactingt to what has been done to them. Then came irregulars, they were mostly interested in money and slaves, then starvation and sickness started claiming lives. That was a tragedy. But Ottomans never tried to erase an entire race out of the existance. If anything they even tried to prevent it. They even hanged people who were deemed responsible for some of the actions took place against Armenian civilians. Anyway some of the Armenians reached the destinations which were set for them by the empire, some fled, some hid among locals; mostly women; married into non-Armenian families. After all that Ottoman's lost Syria to French and Armenians decided to join up with the French this time against their own country and they even invaded southeastern cities like Maraş, Antep, Adana, Urfa. But the local resistance was too strong and their French patrons were not willing to risk their necks for them, so they had lost and forced to retreat back into French controlled Syria and Lebanon. Later, most of the Armenians migrated to France, USA and many other places. That's how they became an effective disapora. This is why they are able to twist the truth. Armenia declined every offer that Turkey has made in past 50 years on creating an international committee to study these claimes and investigate what really took place. But they are not really interested in facts, all they want is attention and recognition. This is why all the fuss about. In fact this was a full on civil war with casualties on both sides.
Germans were helping Ottoman Turkes in their genocide of Armenians because they wanted to build Baghdad railway. They taught Ottoman Turks hiw to gas Armenians, and they perfected it in WWII.The Powers in Europe knew exactly what was going on, but they were more interested in what their gain would be for them afterwards.
The standard of proof in establishing the crime of genocide is formidable given the severity of the crime, the opportunity for overlap with other crimes, and the stigma of being charged with or found guilty of the crime. While presenting the Convention for ratification, the Secretary General of the U.N. emphasized that genocide is a crime of "specific intent," requiring conclusive proof that members of a group were targeted simply because they were members of that group. The Secretary General further cautioned that those merely sharing political aims are not protected by the convention.+
Turk and Armenian relationships were good untill Ottomans statertednlose power and then Russia decided to take the their lands were possibel, by using Armenians. Russia was nearly there but then English decided to jump on as they did not want to give Ottoman lands to Russia but the themselves. English saved Ottomans from Russian invasion but then Turks lost Armenians as a result if the fake English project. There are still so many Turks live neighbouring countries such as Greece, Bulgaria, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Georgia. And so many Armanians live in Turkey. But no Turks in Armenia. No Turks at all, why? What happened to the Turks in Armenian land?
Your mental propaganda is not working anymore and it never was. Check is-lamic history then and today, nothing good came out but atrocities and ani-mal instincts. Turks and kurds are guilty of the massacres between 1850-1910, and the Armenian genocide 1915-1923. Hey, what’s your price these days for mutaah nikah? oh, you're sunni - what’s your price for bay3 al-yamin. Armenians are your masters and they will always be. We know your history, your religion inside out and everything else nasty you plan. Mus-lims are exposed and finished.
There was no Eastern Anatomy till early 1920s. It was called Armenian Highlands. Armenia and most of Turkey is in Asia Minor. They called it Eastern Anatolia to erase Armenian history.
I just learned that my 2x great grandma was 100% Armenian. Her story that she wrote down is the worst thing I've ever heard. God bless the missionary who saved her life after her parents "disappeared " Christians forgive, but very little do we forget...
these missionaries are the reason of the disaster on Armenians. they scouted in the 1800s and next brought death unto the region. they stabbed the Armenians and helped the orphans and the desperate to convert to protestantism. time to forgive is over johnny, it's a wake up call. christians are no better
@@samcopernicus There IS NO SUCH THING as palestinians.. All are economic migrants from the miidle East, Kabyle and berber lands, some arabs, some chercassians from as far as Algeria, who came to the levant following the Jews' return to their ANCESTRAL MOTHERLAND - in search of food and work. Remember the whole region suffered from dire famine for almost a hundred years JUST LIKE the arabs of North Africa have been doing in Europe over the past 35 years. Latin Amercians and the USA. Mere economic migrants. There is NO SUCH thing as palestinians. Never has been. Never will be.
The conquered people did in fact serve in the Ottoman army. Actualy they were forced to. Young boys were taken from their families converted to Islam and turned into Yanisari - the elite troops. They were elite because only the very fitest surrvived the training years. And also those who accepted unquestionable obedience. There was no Ottoman Peace. There was always the ruling Muslims and the opresed others. From time to time some members of other communities did manage to escape the servitude and "make big". Most often than not it was only after they converted to Islam. Being an "infidel" meant that you were the enemy, a subjugated people never equal to the "true and faithful" 1915 to 1917 was just the worst expression of that treatment, which lasted for centuries.
While most people are aware of the Armenian genocide very few seem to know about the fate of Assyrians . 1991 establishment of the Republic of Armenia. 2024 The Assyians are in a worst situation in the middle East.
Nice "propaganda" ur thumbnail is picturing greece as a woman beeing freed by the young turks and not turks grooming some armenian woman. Otherwise the video is ok
Turkey had dramatically changed in the 20th century. The advance was rapid in the economy, education, and cultural life. Someone would wonder how these primitive nomadic people could progress so fast. The answer is what happened during the genocide of Christians. The assimilation of many thousands if not millions of Christians made a difference. The renaissance of Turkey happened when the children of assimilated Christians entered their productive lives.
Wow Turks were so primitive and Christian Europeans weren't killing women for being witch and having cleaning once in a year, making feces in the middle of streets, this is psychological defense system, the summary:you can't accept the truth
As a Turk, I condemn all forms of war. I wish we could continue to live with our Armenian citizens, I wish this forced migration had not happened. In fact, there are many Armenians still living in Turkey. One of the biggest mistakes of the Young Turks was that they were blindly ultranationalists and could not embrace the Armenians and caused them to establish terrorist organizations. In the end, it was the Young Turks who brought the Ottomans to destruction. In times of war, you would not have many options to protect minorities who take up arms and help the enemy from angry crowds. In fact, what happened to the Armenians was not much different from what happened to the Muslim peoples in the Balkans and the north of the Black Sea. I wish the Dashnaksutyun Armenian Terrorist Organization had never been established and the Armenians had not bet on the wrong horse. No matter how hard you try, you cannot turn the Armenian events into a so-called genocide. It is neither similar to the holocaust nor to the genocide that Israel is currently committing in Palestine. There is nothing similar to the Bosnian genocide of the Serbs, the Algerian genocide of the French, or the Karabakh genocide of the Armenians. Even if you count the armed militants, it is impossible to reach the numbers mentioned today. In this video a lot of incomplete, incorrect and changed information was given. Armenians committed the first terrorist act in history. They carried out a bomb attack on the Ottoman Sultan, against whom the Young Turks had staged a coup, at the exit of the Mosque. While Sultan survived by chance, 26 people died and 58 people were injured. So, to make a long story short, the Ottomans did not see the Armenians as a threat out of the blue, as described in the video. For years, with the instigation of the Armenian lobbies in France and Europe and Russia, they had already begun to betray the state in order to get a share of the cake. Long before the First World War, Armenians had already established two armed terrorist organizations. The Young Turks, who dethroned Sultan Abdulhamid II, whom the Armenians labeled the red sultan, made conditions even worse for the Armenians. During the First World War, many nations with a much larger population than the Armenians were deported, and the only nation that claims Genocide is the Armenians.
As an Armenian, as a humanoid and with great love to Turkish people, the Armenian Genocide has happened and it was a Genocide and that this the TRUTH!!! The truth has a certain colour it can not be faked or changed..Trust me one day far far away, in star years we'll all live in peace as one human race,the genocide will be recognised and never repeated on other nations and we would all stop this chase and suffering and start live with love and truth in our hearts!!! Blessings to you
Jews also had rebellious groups and fought Germans from Britain. There were also plots to poison German POWS and they hunted Nazis long after WWII with more assassinations than ASALA. Are you going to deny the Holocaust? And Armenian massacres occurred long before 1915. 300,000 were butchered in the Hamidian massacres in the 1890s, 10,000 killed in the Adana massacres in 1909, and still, Turks try to blame the victims. You slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Assyrians as well and a million Pontic Greeks. The Rwandan Genocide had Hutus blame the targeted Tutsis for being terrorists as well. Your flag is the symbol of a trashy culture that justifies genocide. You’re no different than the Hutus who still try to justify and deny the genocide of Tutsis in Rwanda. How vulgar.
Did you know that Armenians used to be millet-i sadık in Ottoman Empire at 20th century, which means the royal etnhic to Ottoman Empire, bad Pashas and Armenian gangs are the reason we fight as "Armenian Genocide" may God, or Allah, guide and unite us. 🇹🇷🤝🇦🇲
maybe you forgot how turks came to that region? armenians helped your nomad ancestors. how turkey is made? by crimes. is-lam is a crime religion. no gang nothing cengiz.. you know nothing but crimes as the rest of mus-lims. you. can't escape from paying the price
Source is literally everywhere buddy. Everywhere outside of Turkey and Azerbaijan. Its a well established fact that Turkey has blood all over its face as it continues to deny the Armenian Genocide. Thats a fact whether you believe it or not.
do you know who else forcefully silenced thoughts opposing to his? hitler. you have no difference by deleting the comments respectfully written here. buddy. who is the fascist now.
Efe Öztürk Okay kid I am not deleting your comments. I have no power to delete anyone’s comment. RUclips probably deleted your comment because it’s an absolute load of bullshit.
Every single library ( of coarse not turkey and Azerbaijan ) of archives...... read eye witness accounts, telegraphs and pictures from the times ! To be ignorant in this day and age only highlights your stupidity!
Why aren't you telling about Armenian's killing of civilian Turks as they rebelled against the empire to get autonomy by getting provoked by Western powers? Why aren't you talking about the massacres committed by Armenians against their Muslim neighbours which they lived peacefully together for centuries? You are saying that 'Ottomans believed' but you don't bring an explanation that why did they believe things like that? You are manipulating history, this is such a shame
@@MatejaMicic No, this is not whataboutism. It is reflected in the video as if all these events happened solely because of a decision of Ottoman Government, that is to say, because of their so-called ambitions and intolerance etc. However, the actual background is way different and what was done was in fact a reaction towards the own actions of the Armenians. When you must face with the realities you always blame the opposers without bringing any argument, as the case of you and me right now discloses. You know, all these events were never really like you 'created a narration of', by victimizing a side and evilifying the other totally. However; you are neither honest nor brave to acknowledge this fact. Such losers
Why don't you talk about the genocide the Armenians committed in Türkiye,you talk about the Armenians like they were saints which they were not they started the genocide in Türkiye when the ottoman empire was losing territory against the Russians
Let's just think about this theory; The Ottoman government ruled out Armenians from the army, society, and everywhere because of just suspicion of rebellion. But there was no rebellion :) Do you have any idea about Fedayis or Kamavors? How many Ottoman soldiers and innocent Turkish and Kurdish people were murdered by these terrorists. Armenian terrorists organized under the Hıncak and Tashnak and people saw what they did in Kars, Van, Erzurum all of East Anatolia and how savage the Armenian Gangs were. Ottoman people called them "Millet-i Sadıka" and this meant "Loyaliest Nation".There were a lot of Armenian administrators, Armenian artists, and Armenian wealthy people in the Ottoman. They have never lost their religion and language cause Ottomans never tried to assimilate them. But some Armenian radicalized terrorist organizations like Hıncak and Tashnak were funded by the Russians and attacked the vulnerable innocent villager during WW1. Let's just think about the situation, you are in a war and fighting on multi battles, losing your army and soldiers but far from the capitol every day coming news about the Armenian terrorists and how many people were killed today, what are you gonna do? The Ottoman government had a solution; resettlement of the Armenian people to another Ottoman territory. But they didn't have this safety and a lot of Armenian people died during this time. I love Armenian people, and I wish this kind of thinks never happened in history. Neither I'm Ottoman nor they are Hıncak and Tashnak. Some bad things have happened. I hope we can fix our relationship and create more strong communication with each other.
You mentioned about Hentchag and Tashnag parties about their revolutionary acts , but you’re not asking yourself why they attack , if the life was friendly why should somebody attack you the time beginning 1887 or 1890 ( and this before 1915 the Great Genocide . A good saying in our lifetime “ when you put a cat in a closed room , and try to kill it , it will surprise you “. This happened before the 1915 Massacre, I will not open the whole history it needs volumes and encyclopedias Thank you 🙏🇦🇲
What ww1 was happening in 1894-1896 when Turks killed 300,000 Armenians? Or in 1909 when they killed 30,000? You people are raised on lies. After you commit massacres, when Armenians defend themselves you say, "see, this is proof Armenians are killing us". If you expect Armenians to quietly accept their deaths you are sorely mistaken.
Because you are liars. You kill Armenians and when they fight back to survive, you say, "see, they are killing us". That's why there is not one reputable historian that has affirmed your lies.
@@meral5920 you muslims should free Christian lands and get out of Constantinople. I’ll remind you that entire turkey is built on Greek and Armenian lands
That’s completely untrue. Have you even watched the video? Christians were unarmed. Open encyclopaedia Britannica and read. You oppressed Christians. You started it all
Thank you for this documentary of this great sin Turkish leaders and soldiers committed against my Christian brothers and sisters. There is a Holy God of Justice who will ultimately pass judgment. The world is growing darker. There will be more wars, famine, disease, suffering as the Day of the Lord approaches. Read the Holy Scriptures be spiritually prepared, remain faithful, endure to the end.🕎📖✝️🔥🕊️🙌🏻❤️
Have you ever asked how many babies and children were killed by those barbarian Armenians? They killed 519000 Anatolians, mostly Muslim Kurds before they forced to deport! You just believe what is told to you.
The events of 1915 did not happen, but as can be understood from this comment, there will be no country called Armenia in 2030 and we will expel the armenians in Turkey. 🇹🇷🇦🇿
Actually , perhaps no Religion preaches hatred against other Religion. But there are some races , tribes and / or communities, esp., the males of such Races or families , etc. are jealous of others. To snatch away their jobs, money, animal - wealth , women folk and lands, such men under the false pretext of Religion, Races, caste or Class, Tradition, Nationality , Language , Tribe , Nationality, Dialect , Colour, Culture , Professional group, Family or / and Family background, even under a concocted false story, they try to attack n subdue the other poor man or men. And thus.... I personally think the Turks at that time wanted to do racial or ethnic cleansing of the neighbouring areas of Turkey. It was easier for them to keep the guise of Islam. Or may be , am not cocksure , just to convert the Non - Turks like , Armenians to Islam by any means. By fraud, by any means or by even, force. Because, it's easier for the stronger to bully the comparatively weaker person. Clearly, t Turks were stronger due to perhaps, non - veg diet, numerical strength , unity and shrewd brains. Last but not the least, t. TURKS 1st invented n manufactured Fire - arms in the whole world. Obviously, they were the first among diff. Muslim races to use the Guns and Canons/ fire arms. In India Also, the Uzbeks under the Mughal family first brought Guns after conquering Afghanistan. These Uz. - Mughals are a branch or race from Eastern Turkey. Though, they had a majority of Pathan / Patthaan - Khan Afghan army soldiers and officers under them , but these clever - crafty Turks never gave the charge of Gun or Gunnery to any Afghan - Pathan. Though these Pathans were Muslims too, and v. brave - honest. Atleast , during the rule of earlier Mughal Emperors, it did happen. During the later Mug. Period, t. size of the Mug Army increased drastically. Many Hindus , alongside with the neo Local Converts were inducted. Naturally, the later Mug. Kings were forced to take t. Afghan Pathans into confidence. Presently, some of t. Frontier Pathan - Khans stay in the N. West Front. Province or state of t. present Pakistan country. Under t. early British Rule, t. Brits. forcibly and with great difficulty snatched this Prov. from Afghanistan. This area should be neither controlled by India nor Pakistan. T. Pak . Govt. should hand over this area to Afghanistan. Same thing can be said ab. Ladhak, in our India. It was actually a part of the then free Buddhist kingdom of Tibet. It was captured by t. Sikh King of t. then Punjab under t. already declined Mug. Rule in Ind. Many cases of bullying, snatching , destroying n cheating go unreported in t whole world. Although, a man or male myself but I hate such activities. May be, am in the group of minority males. Lastly, Nice day all.
Armenians betrayed the Turks by uniting with the Russians for independence. If a country's citizens cooperate with the enemy, you either execute them or remove them from the battlefield. The Ottomans forced the Armenians to migrate. This is not genocide, they were forcibly taken to another place to ensure the safety of the soldiers and the Muslim people. This is not genocide. In other words, they were taken from one province of the Ottoman Empire to another province. In other words, they wanted to do what the Greeks, Serbians and Bulgarians did. but they were not successful. The difference is that one succeeds and the others fail. That's the whole point. They fought for independence and were defeated. Turks who lost the war in the Balkans and the Caucasus were sent into exile. We do not call this genocide. Other Christians did not call this event a genocide. He said forced migration and exile. Since genocide was a concept that emerged after the Second World War, Armenians used this concept because they did not accept what they had lost, thus they used their Christian brotherhood feelings and Christian sympathy in the Christian world. As a result, other people believed them. There was no concept of genocide at that time. So this concept was created later. These events are known as genocide, but it is not, but this information is wrong. In reality there is forced migration and treason.
Simple answer: Armenians backstabe ottomans. When Ottoman army was western front defending the country with some European imperialist encouragement and support so called Tashnak militias started massacres in east of today's Türkiye . Defensless villages was easy target. Women children old people were targeted. When some division of ottomans arme arrived to the area Armenians started crying and running. They told their mentors how strong was Ottoman army how victimised they were. And today they are still the instrument of these emperials. Also in Ottoman times Armenians were in high position in state. Tradesmen. Businessmen. Example why and how ziljian cymbals became so popular in music world.
Check is-lamic history then and today, nothing good came out but atrocities and ani-mal instincts. Turks and kurds are guilty of the massacres between 1850-1910, and the Armenian genocide 1915-1923. Mus-lims are exposed and finished.
Well, isn't armenian genocide a pop, easy to talk about topic for anybody? In fact, maybe we should talk about what colonialist Europe did in Africa, too? Or how the British settlers fucked up the native American tribes? What has happened has haopened. It is over. No matter the amount of talk will change it. So, suck it up and move along.
To your research as to how long the Armenians have lived there it's not a thousand years I can respect you talking about our genocide but if you want to do it historical numbers get the facts right please These are important pieces to that entire puzzle
are you normal? 1400 years of is-lamic kil-lings and genocide by turks and kurds and massacres by azeri abbas like you and you dare to talk about fake stories about khojaly like if you owned the lands that you're on now. go find your father, mutaah nikahının oğlu
About the recent Karabakh events, I must say I don't understand how Armeian side can claim that they are right in this one. Armenia was actively invading a piece of land, which belonged to another country, which was accepted that way by the international authorities, and claiming land by annexation is banned all over the world. On top of that they were asked to end the invasion in peacefull manners on multiple occasions by various western nations and UN and even Russia. Azerbaijan was defending its country and claiming what's already theirs by law. Did you know that Armenia killed thousands and created near a million refugee by invading Karabahk in 1994? How bias should you be to not see how wrong Armenia on this one?
Another Azeri and Turk trying to defend their crimes! Wrong place !!!! Azerbaijan is part of Iran! Russia took those lands during Ghajarie and later with help of Stalin who was a Criminal formed a fake and new country by giving Armenian historical lands. He deported so many people during Soviet time. Look who build Azerbaijan oil industry! And look what you did to him!!! Again Armenians! Ivan Mirzoev: An Armenian businessman who built the first wooden oil derrick in Baku in 1871. He also founded the Mirzoev Brothers oil company! Learn history!!! Before you talk! I mean history written by real historians not Brainwashed Azeris! After Mirzoev's death, The company remained active until 1918 when it was forced to shut down due to massacres against Armenians. Read again!!
The Ottoman Archieves are the only reliable resources. Listen to the world historians. We all know this cannot go to those who scream out the louder in the social media. The facts matter. Also check what Armenian gangs were doing in the Turkish villages back then. It is important to have historical knowledge before jumping into any judgment.
Wrong. Ottoman archives clearly show that turks had an entire plan to exterminate the Armenians. Thats a fact whether you believe it or not. Turkey still has blood all over its face to this very day.
This is all nonsense. The Turkish side has repeatedly said that the historical archives should be opened and this issue should be discussed by historians. However,Armenians refused to accept this in order to use these events in the international arena for their political interest. As Atatürk’s ancestors, we have always existed and will always exist in these lands. We die once and rise again.
Many nations tried to create their own nation-states out of the Ottoman territory. Arabs and Balkan nations achieved but Armenians failed. Ottomans reacted with a survival instinct.
You are absolutely wrong about it, Turkey occupied Armenian territories by killing, deportation and Genocide of Armenians. There are dozens of evidences that most of Turkey territories belonged to Armenians, besides Armenians in Turkey were wealthy citizens and by killing and deportation they also grabbed their wealth.
Lol. Ottoman soil? 🤣 and whose soil it was before the Ottoman Empire? Ima tell you cause I’m sure you don’t know. That soil was Greek and Armenian. And they didn’t capture it from anyone like turks did.
You can be more respectful to the ancestors (Turks) of those who first discovered mathematics, physics, geometry, astronomy, the military order we use today and many other things. I also know that Greeks and Armenians came to Anatolia after the Urartu state.
@@nazmiaydogan2958 lol what🤣🤣🤣 turks first discovered mathematics? Physics? Geometry? Astronomy? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 military order? Ahahahhaha where did you read that? On turkish websites? 🤣
You can know these when you read about the contributions of the scientists of the Great Hun Empire, the Great Seljuk Empire, the Ghaznavids and the Khwarezmshah state to science.
@@nazmiaydogan2958 all nations contributed to science. However, the most contribution to the spheres you mentioned were made by Greeks, Indians, Arabs etc. not turks
There was some principalities and seigniories but they were not independent exactly because Byzantium was the ruler of that region and the Armenians were subject to Byzantium. The first Armenian deportation was carried out by Byzantium in 1020s and the Armenians in Van were sent to inner Anatolia and the Armenians faced with a lot of oppression due to denominational differences.This is why Armenians were at daggers drawn with Byzantians, in fact, until 1071 when Turks literally arrive at Anation, four Armenian principalities were laid low by Byzantium personally. In short, Armenians were not an independent folk. And interestingly, the big top independency was brought by Turks. Beforehand Alp Arslan concluded an agreement with David the Armenian king whom he protected. Later on, in the reign of Melikshah, Armenians were released from a quite amount of tax. Basically, since the time of Seljuq and later on the establishment of Ottoman Empire, even the reign of Othman, Armenians and Turks were living in amity. Additionaly, not only the Armenian patriarchate Havakin was officially recognized immediately, but also in the reign of Fatih, the Armenian patrician was invited to İstanbul and a new patriarchate in Galata was established. So that Armenians could live quite free, privileged and had religious freedom in the times of Ottoman and Seljuq. Armenians were also exempted from military service and were allowed to be assigned to important seats in government, for that matter they are named for “millet-i sadıka” meaning “faithful nation.” And when examined, it is seen that until 1800s, Turks and Armenians were living peacefully up to the hint. However, as time passes, when Ottoman started to die down, and the seats that Greeks left were given to Armenians, especially when various consulates and clerkships mostly were controlled by Armenians, which this hegemony reached its climax in the time of Ali Pasha, Armenians meant to gradually get rid of Turks and surround themselves with their relatives and cognates. It can be seen even today. When a man becomes a minister, a mp or a mayor, he starts to surround himself with all his acquaintances. Armenians in Ottoman era did the same thing. However, due to the fact that Armenian faith and Ottoman faith which is islam confronted, the rift appeared in time. Whereas, Armenians, in a way, managed to survive thanks to Turks. if it were not for Turk eponyms; Ottoman and Seljuq, the name of Armenians due to the outrage of Byzantium and Europe would stay in history books at its best. Yet, even the reason behind the establishment of Armenia was to object to Ottoman. We are talking about an Armenian meinie who gave 40 piastre tax annually, were not called for military service, had liberty of trade and of religion, were conferred on barraty, so to speak, living way more easefully than Turks in Ottoman lands. So, how did everything get to be this way? That’s pretty cliche. First- propaganda; Second- nationalism. In the nineteenth century, nationalism became widespread meaning that everyone wanted to have an autonomous identity. Because Ottoman became so weak that foreign forces wanted to divide, split the Ottoman Empire and take the benjamin’s portion, which it was seen even in WWI. The French in Mediterranean, in east the Russian, the Greek in Aegean and in İstanbul and in its round the British, in short, different nations occured on all sides of the country and they eventually started to fight with each other to have the biggest slice of the cake. And it’s a process, i mean that before the WWI, Ottoman was gradually divided throughout one hundred years, having lost lands in all regions, some revolts occured and the folk, solidly grew away from being a subject of Ottoman. After all, because a Christian community living in an islamic georaphy was in the question, no matter if they had benefit from that or not, many countries tried their hands at that under the disguise of “brotherhood in Christ.” The projects started in the eighteenth century. Primarily, France sent some missionisers to catholicise Armenians and then with the interferences by other countries, approximately ten percent of armenians became protestant. So, Armenians splitted among themselves, therefore they could not correspond with Ottoman since they could not achieve unity even among themselves. Armenians firstly became an enemy for Ottomans and then with the fire of nationalism, they want to build a country of their own. Of course, it had occured through that hundred-year time lapse. As i have stated before, there was a plenty of battles, revolts or contributions carried out behind the curtain. Exempli gratia, the city of Erivan where was possessed by Iran was conquered by Russians in the time of Russian-Persian war in 1829 and tzar Nicola the First made a statement by saying “This incident is the day when the Armenians’ independence.” Since that day, a new correlation between Russians and Armenians has started to be made and that relation was based on the hostility towards Ottoman and this idea has been imposed in every chance.
For example, between circa 1853 and 1856, after the battle between Russia and Ottoman; Russia, though used to use the term “Asia of Turkey”, after the Paris Conference in 1856, started to use the term “Armenia” whereas there was neither such country nor Ottoman had lost that regions, so they were talking about a non-existed country and imposed the idea of a probable country in the future on the society. With this fire, they worked hand-in-hand with Russia, Britain and other countries. That was not consist only of sharing a few maps or making up countries such as Armenia or Kurdistan. After the Edict of Reform in 1856, Robert College and American College of Merzifon and this kind of schools started to impose some ideas such as Ottoman hatred, Armenian nationalism on society even when in primary school age. Teachers propagandized with insistances as “Ottomans made a massacre, they mow down Armenians, if it were not for Ottoman, there would be a great country called Armenia but Ottoman forestalled.” The generation was bred up to such ideologies, when they were old enough to have adequately important seats in 1890s-1900s, it was inevitable that they would like to actualize these ideas. 1800s was very tough for Ottoman. Almost in every trench there was either a revolt or was against another country. When it was 1877, the outbreak of a war (Russo-Turkish war) - which we call “93 Harbi”* (War of 93) - in Balkans and Caucasia to achieve Panslavism by Russians made everything even worse. Because Ottoman had lost the war and had to ask for peace. Russians could make towards Istanbul after Plevne had been occupied. The war ended in 31th of January in 1878 with the armistice in Edirne and the peacetalks that paved the way for the Treaty of San Stefano also known as treaty of Yeşilköy had been given a start. So to say, these talks were not so beneficial for Ottoman Empire. Moreover, during these discussions, Armenian patriarch Nerses Variabedyan and some Armenian leaders had negotiated with the grand duke Nikolai, tzar’s brother and managed to have them add an article about Armenians to the treaty. Consequently, the name of Armenians, first time in the history, is used in an official concordat and that was the first step toward the autarchy.However, this treaty was just on paper, not actualised because England foresaw that, by this treaty, Russia became over-powerful and demanded a new conference, which it didn’t acted just as a demand. Then Britain not only sent an armada to Istanbul but also having accorded with Austria (Oesterreich) then massed a lot of soldiers to the Danube region. So, Russia was not sufficient for a second war so it had to accept the conference. Of course, Britain didn’t take Ottoman under its wings just for favour. In the meantime, Britain had some exclusive privileges behind the curtain. For example, Britain achieved the right to engarrison in Cyprus and to make reforms about the Armenians living in Ottoman lands and permitted them over-freedom. But in the meantime Armenians were not unactive. In 17th of March, 1878, Variabedyan patriarch negotiated with Layard, ambassador of England and said if Britain supports, Armenian community is ready to rebel and decisive to establish a new Armenia. Because of that, in the Congress of Berlin which was gathered on behalf of the treaty of San Stefano, Bismark welcomed Armenians and get along with them, as well as other European countries supported Armenians. That was so tragic for Ottoman because Ottoman made the disreputation “the sick man” in those congregations. The whole world saw that Ottoman was being divided, laid low, disappeared and couldn’t even have the right to sepak in its own land about its own vassals. In 1880 when Gladstone became the prime minister of England, conflicts reached the peakpoint. Gladstone dealed with the Armenian issue to start with and in June of 1880, in tandem with the six nations, he wanted reforms to be made with Armenians in the east of Anatolia by sending a diplomatic note to Sublime Porte. After that interference of Gladstone, Armenians raised to the bait even more and resorted to terror by organizing gangs. As an example, Hunchakian which means “jingle” and Tashnag (flag) parties are the most popular ones. Armenians, all over the board of the country, started to organize gangs, assault the society and the soldiers, and by letting out a yell of “Armenia” they terrorized. Additionally, whenever Ottoman quenched and intervene, it is launced as “murdered” in the West. “Ottoman kills Armenians, attacks Christians!” These sort of news were always reported and the society was provoked against Ottoman. For example, in August of 1894, in Sason region in Bitlis Province, Armenians rebelled and slaughtered innocent people, then commenced fire, even gunfighted with the soldiers and when Ottoman quelled the revolt, all the West media published such fake news like “Ottoman is the murderer, Armenians are the wronged!” but no one talked about the slaughtered Turks and Muslims. Because there was a need for excuse, and on the plea of this, some countries -Britain particularly- send a memorandum to Ottoman for reforms on Armenians and them being more free, even free of any restrictions. However, Ottoman couldn’t agree with them and did reject the plan. And then, with the provacations of all these countries, Armenians effervesced even more and in Bitlis, Erzurum, Muş, Sivas and other regions, they started to revolts all around the country simultaneously. Thereby, in a time lapse of one year, there had been 25 revolts and all of them were to establish an independent Armenia. And Ottoman had neither time nor patience to fight against them diplomatically. Due to the fact that in the 18th of April in 1897, Greco-Turkish War broke out, afterwards, some problems occured around the near east, in the lands of Arabs. Here, during the unionist revolution and then the first world war, Ottoman was in a position so that no matter what they did, they would go wrong. Until 1915, there was 40 revolts in total. In short, deportation was not a sudden decision. After all these incidents, Ottoman either give up on 20 or 30 cities and say “take them, all done, do whatever you want to!” or scramble, which there was no chance of giving lands for free and for dividing the country. If you do so, tomorrow or any other day, Laz people, Kurds, Balkanians, Arabs, other minorities would want to establish their own country. WWI was there, we -Ottomans- were already under occupation and losing lands, on the other hand, when armenians started to revolt and make troubles, Ottoman had to set the seal on the issue. One should speculate, in 1895 a crowded Armenian group marched towards Sultanahmet with the guidance of the patriarch İzmirliyan, protested and around the same time, Ottoman bank was raided by Armenian gangs. Moreover, according to the written sources, many from the folk, i mean civilians were killed by the bombs of Armenians and additionally, they even committed to assassinate Abdulhamid who was the Sultan.
Those incidents did not appear suddenly, dear fellows, i mean if we are to speak of the emigration or so-called genocide, it’s a requirement that the background should also be understood because in the world maps that was published in that time, the West marked the east of Ottoman as “Armenia.” So to say, though the country was not splitted, they cut away the half of the land. That obviously was a provocation, a threat. If you check even only the treaty of Yeniköy made in 8th of February in 1914, it’ll be enough. This is such a project that you divide the country as from Diyarbakır and make the region totally autarchical with foreign governors and inspectors. So, Ottomans gets divided into provinces. Having been not fought yet, Ottoman was already divided.And the worst part of it, if it were not for WWI, that plan could have been actualized. The outbreak of the war shot the project’s fox. Afterwards, similar bargains were offered to Damat Ferid Pasha like one hundred times but due to the War of Independence lead by Atatürk, they had failed again. I mean, regardless of if Ottoman was divided or not, Western countries had already the intention of establishing an Armenian and they would make no secret of it. Armenians, with the fire of that, continued to revolt and carried out acts of terror even more. Through the Battle of Gallipoli* Armenian gangs still attacked on people. Consequently, Ottoman, with a ‘all-or-none’ principle, made a radical decision. That’s just much more the case. So, the people were send from there to somewhere else, the aim was to break the unity and to prevent probable revolts. At that time, there were ones who fight against, attack, threaten with weapons, tease and make troubles, so some of them were killed but according to the West, they act as if the whole Armenian society were slaughtered, meaning that it’s claimed that a literal genocide occured and all the Armenians were killed completely.However, that’s a slander. There’s a strict difference between forcing people to immigrate and extinguish them completely. But when you look at the diaspora, they claim that one and a half million armenians were killed. Worst part of it is that people are buying this and when you deny it, they declare you anti-human immediately. And of course, as from 24 of April, some of the Armenian leaders were arrested and sent to detention camps but none of them were killed in this moment, moreover, most of the ones who sent, came back to Istanbul. To give details, Deportation Law consisted of four articles: Article First: In wartime, if the army commanders and corps and party headmans and their attorneys and independent rank commanders, witness to any hostility and trangession with weapons and resistance by the community in any sort of way,“against the actions and the arrangements that aim to maintain the orders from government, public order and defence of the country, are allowed and obligated to reciprocate with military forces in a most violent way; and in any offense and resistance situation, to neutralisation.” Meaning that the soldiers were free to use their weapons when obliged. Article Second: “Army and corps and party commanders, due to the military requirements, when sense espionage or infidelity, can transfer people on a single basis or en masse to the other districts.” Meaning that by the government, commanders were given the right to relocate the ones whom they suspected to somewhere else. Article Third: This law is valid since it’s publication. Article Fourth: The commander-in-chief and the ministry of war are the responsible for the validity of the judge. I decided on the enforcement and the pass of this temporary resolution by the seats in charge to be reported in the meeting of the general assembly of the parliament. Hear me, i’m telling again; deportation is just having a group of people move from a place to another, of course during that there were ones who attacked to, pull a gun on the soldiers and resisted and kill and also killed but the law is crystal-clear. Yes, that’s a saddening incident, a whole group of people was relocated with all their belongings but just two years ago from that time, in Balkan Wars, Turks also went through the same thing. Turks in Balkan had to emigrate because the land was lost. So, in wartime, these things can be happen. That’s understandable. And when they attempt to revolt and stage a coup and collaborate with the enemy, the right of them to complain and to cry is only possible in the fictional novels. Because the government primarily have to protect its own continuity. There is no any other possible solution, or anything else to do. I do not accuse them with phoniness, they were revealed already later on. For example, some documents claimed as gotten from the Ottoman lands in Syria were shared by commander Allenby and it was claimed that in those documents, Ottoman gave a direct order to practice genocide. But later on it was revealed that such a document does not exist and these documents, let alone them gotten by Allenby in Syria, they actually appeared in France. Armenian Nationalist Federation in Paris prepared a report by themselves. Addition to that, he made a lot of statements about the Armenian genocide assertions in 31 December of 1919, 27 Dec. Of 1920 and in 1 March of 1922 and stated that that’s a project of the British and when some provinces such as Bitlis and Van are used to establish Armenia, the authority of England will gain vigor in the Near East and that is the main purpose.The ones who read Nutuk already knows that. Additionally, it should be stated that in 24 March of 1915, with the help of Russia, approximately 2300 terrorists were caught from the federations such as Ramgavar, Halas, Towards Armenia and Dark Cross. The Armenians who revolted and tried to stage a coup and practiced terrorism muust be brought to book for that. In short, the gangs. Because what Ottoman did was a self-defense. 100 Turks in ‘Zeitun Resistance’ in 1914, 3 thousand Turks in “Defense of Van” in 1915 and 20 thousand Turks in Muş in 1914-1915 lost their lives.
Armenians, since the revolt in Erzurum in 1890, attempted to revolt so many times but failed. When failed, the cruel piling on the agony is just being hypocrite. Zeve village of Van was completely slaughtered by Armenians without making any discrimination for women, children, elders and Armenians joined the Russian army with 15 thousand enlistee just to batte against the Ottoman, even there were tens of them considering their own wives and children as hindrances and sent them to Erivan. Ottoman did what was needed to be done. And, if Ottoman was that anti-Armenian, then why in that time there was two Armenian congressman in Ottoman Council? This also should be questioned. Minister of foreign affairs Gabriyel Noradukyan and Oscar Efendi was also Armenian. How could they be oppressed and be deputies? How Bashruyan who studied law with the opportunities from Ottoman could be appointed to the chairmanship of the penalty department ? How could Kirkor Zohrac be appointed to the parliament of Istanbul and Hallaçyan to the public works ministry? By the way, Hasruyan whom i just mentioned advocated an Armenian called Torlatyan who killed the minister of internal affairs Cevanshir Han in 1921. Again, the councellor of Mustafa Reşid Pasha who was one of the leading figures of Reform, was an Armenian named Agop Gırçıkyan. However, saddening part is that some armenians who were appointed to the parliamentarianship in Ottoman such as Noradukyan, as soon as the WWI had broken out, left the country and demanded to establish Armenia from countries like France. Consequently, tragic events happened and the deportation didn’t leave good memories in minds. People died, starved, relocated but eventually, it was an obligation. No one is happy or proud of it, or say “we did a great job!” We just had to and that’s it. It’s seen that Armenian side of the dispute shares some skull, skeleton and bone pictures and say “look how many people did the murderer Turks kill!” but it’s unknown if they were killed as innocent people or gangster or not or killed in a gunfight. Nowadays we are bombing PKK encampments. What we are gonna do?Apologize? Of course not. We are not gonna say “Aww, what a pity, wish we hadn’t done that” or something like that. The deportation was the consequence of a long-lasted hostileness and the hostile side isn’t the Ottoman. Unfortunately, that’s the truth. Lastly I wanna end my history class with a book quote from Armenia's first president Ovannes Kaçaznuni, "The Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagtzoutiun) has Nothing to do Anymore": "The deportations and mass exiles and massacres which took place during the Summer and Autumn of 1915 were mortal blows to the Armenian Cause. Half of historical Armenia -“ the same half where the foundations of our independence would be laid according to the traditions inherited by European diplomacy -" that half was denuded of Armenians: the Armenian provinces of Turkey were without Armenians. The Turks knew what they were doing and have no reason to regret today. It was the most decisive method of extirpating the Armenian Question from Turkey". Resources below; Erdal İlter, "Ermeni Meselesi’nin Perspektifi ve Zeytûn İsyânları(1780-1915)", 2.basım. Ankara 1995, s. 23 Erdal İlter, "Ermeni Meselesi'nin Doğuşunda ve Gelişmesinde İngiltere'nin Rolü", OTAM, Sayı: 6, Ankara 1995, s. 160 Mehmet Kocaoğlu, "Millet-i Sadıka'dan Ermeni Mezalimine", Avrasya Dosyası, C. 2, S. 4, Sonbahar 1995-1996 , s.114 ATASE, Arşiv Belgeleriyle Ermeni Faaliyetleri, 1914-1918, Ankara, 2005, 1. Cilt, s.439-444. Dr. Recep Karakaya, Ermeni Meselesi. Kronoloji ve Kaynakça, Gökkubbe, İstanbul, 2005, sah: 415. Kâmuran Gürün, "Ermeni Dosyası", TTK, 3. bas. Ankara 1985, s.47. Harika Yamak, "Atatürk ve Ermeni Soykırımı Yalanı", Yılmaz Kitabevi, 2015. Ermeni, Yahudi, Rum Asıllı Milletvekilleri, Süleyman Yeşilyurt, Kültür-Sanat Yayınları, 10. Baskı. Murat Bardakçı, "Talât Paşa'nın Evrak-ı Metrûkesi", Everest Yayınları, 1. Basım, Aralık 2008. Dr. Recep Karacakaya, "Kaynakçalı Ermeni Meselesi Kronolojisi", T.C. Başbakanlık Devlet Arşivleri Genel Müdürlüğü, Osmanlı Arşivi Daire Başkanlığı, Yayın Nu:52, İstanbul, 2001. Halide Edib Adıvar'ın Maliye Nazırı Cevad Bey'e Beyrut'dan Gönderdiği Mektup, Beyrut, Dârü'l-Muallimât, 1 Mart 1917 Osman Olcay, Sevr Antlaşmasına Doğru, Konferans ve Toplantı Belgeleri, Ankara Üni. SBF Yayınları, 1981, s.24. Yusuf Halaçoğlu, "Sürgünden Soykırıma Ermeni İddiaları", 7. Baskı, Babıali Kültür Yayıncılığı, 2008. Bilal Şimşir, Şehit Diplomatlarımız, Bilgi Yayınevi, Ankara, 2000, 2. Cilt. Azmi Süslü, "Ermeniler ve 1915 Tehcir Olayı", Ankara 1990, s.24 Hakimiyet-i Milliye, 13 Kasım 1920.
You have many misconceptions in your video. Armenia was under Ottoman *occupation*. And Allah is not the God of the Bible. The Ottoman Empire was an Islamic empire that waged wars of conquest. Janissaries were castrated boys robbed from Christian parents to serve as Turkish troops. The Turks had a long history of castration for Christian slaves. All non-Islamics had to pay jizya under any Muslim rule. There is nothing willingly multicultural or multireligious about Islamic rule since 650 A.D, which marks the beginning of the Muslim conquests.
We definitely need "Vergangenheitsbewältigung". Cooperation is more beneficial both for Turks and Armenians. A society cannot be guilty collectively, therefore, it cannot be punished collectively. But as a legal term we can not use "Genocide" retroactively.
erkut ziya sivrikaya um, you can be collectively punished. Your entire country and Turks outside of turkey are denying it happened. That is a “collective” agreement. You are guilty. You committed a genocide.
you can judge a person. you may find him guilty or innocent. but you can't do this for a whole nation. Also, when using the word "genocide" for legal purposes, you cannot go backwards. otherwise, this word is used for thousands of communities and loses its meaning. Armenians were exiled collectively for "betrayal". this is collective punishment. this should not be done. crimes and punishments should be personal. a person can commit a crime, a nation can not. we have to cooperate. thats why we need vergangenheitsbewältigung. if you claim persons like me guilty of a crime i did not take part of this debate will continiue for ever and ever...
Historian:Tacitus Book: annalivm libri Maneuvering between larger neighbours, the Armenians gained a reputation for deviousness; the Roman historian Tacitus called them an ambigua gens (“ambiguous people”). A This word may mean "doubtful or uncertain Persian , Roman Empire wars . Armenian take side Living in Roman Empire and back stabbing Roman Living in Persian empire and back stabbing Persian . World war 1; Armenian back stabbing ottoman army taking side of Russia World war 2; Living with Russian and back stabbing Russian taking side HITLER, NAZI . İsn’t enough shame for Armenian ??? Fight side by side HITLER ???? Shame on you the Armenian Legion of the Wehrmacht in war against USSR, hoping that if Germany succeeded in conquering the USSR, they would grant Armenia independence. After that Adolf Hitler personally stated, "I don't trust the Armenians."
History repeats itself. The west and Russia knew that Armenians and other Christian population‐ all of them disarmed were under the hazard of annihilation. The same happened last 3,5 years. The dispopulation and annihilation of Armenians in Anatolia eventually led to big demographic and geopolitical changes. The results of these changes we still can witness today.
Nice try my friend but it not Islamic. It was western nationalism. Because the fact here the one who did admired the Western Nationalism more so than the Islamic. Trust the Islamic themselves was don’t like the ideal of modernization themselves too.
American historians Justin and Carolyn McCarthy: "The modern territory of Armenia belongs not to Armenians, but to Azerbaijanis. This is the reason that most of the geographical names in the territory of Armenia belong to Azerbaijanis."
les mc carthy ont obtenu leurs doctorats a l'université ... du bosphore.. en turkey.. pour quelques euros de plus ils auraient pu acheter un ministere à bakou..... nier le genocide des arméniens leur rapporte gros
go learn english sharmouta, you are acting holy in time your quran your everything is fake and full of mistakes. if you believe in G-d you shouldn't be racist and it's time for you to grow up and admit that you and your people are guilty of crimes
Turkish government should take legal action for all these scammers who claims there were genocide as there is no proof of genocide and/ or verdict from an international court.
@@kwakuandspinopython1346 it is a lie. There is no proof of that although there were very strict investigation was completed by United Kingdom authorities who hoped to find some evidences
Bruce Fein - associate dep. attorney general and general counsel of the Federal Communications Commission under President Ronald Regan, specialize in constitutional international law - VERBATIM: “It has no legal significance, it is a political statement, a confession by Mr. Biden, the Congress and by the Armenians that they have no legal case to make. The genocide convention which entered into force in 1951, Article 9 stipulates that any dispute arising under the convention as whether genocide or not, shall be taken to International Court of Justice in the Haque. 70 years of silence on the Armenians side because they do not have a legal case. They resorted to political donations to get political power and political statements. I have no doubt that Mr. Biden has not taken any serious investigation on what the genocide convention means, what are the elements of genocide, what transpired in 1915. Does he ever read European Court of Human Rights decision in 2015 stating there has not been any proven Armenian genocide, it is historical event that does not land on any conclusion. I believe it would have been far more sensible for Mr. Biden to urge Armenia use your right under Article 9 as the justice has been waiting for 70 years. Politicians are motivated with political moves, not historical facts. Justin Mc Carty says why Armenians are keeping their own achieves closed if they have a case, we assume that they have ready to present. Let’s use Armenians own statements in 1919, Feb 26 in Paris Peace Conference when they repeatedly say they we were offered autonomy by the Sultan but rejected to be loyal and enlisted to fight enemies of Ottoman Empire. Armenians also acknowledged that they became belligerents and Ottoman Turks died in the same proportion as Ottoman Armenians in the arisen conflict. I think Turks should approach the International Court of Justice under Article 9 and saying that they are being injured with the false allegations to reach at least a judicial resolution.”
Don't worry orusbu Muslim supremacist untouchable sharmoota taqiyya lying child rapist orusbu. How are your people? Buried six feet under by your Allah? Are you crying your orusbu racist rapist eyes out? Good! Hope Israel fs you like you've never been fd up. You orusbu sharmootas and your pedo western sharmoita Muslim brotherhood allies. Allah akbar, it's what Allah wills. Looks like Allah is slowly annihilating your priviledged untouchable above the law kind. You thought you were 😂
Let's not forget that the US and all European states knew very well what was going on in Anatolia. They did nothing to stop it.
Back then, there really wasn't much of a concept of an international human rights authority.
The idea that countries interfere in lives of people in the interest of human rights is a new concept for the most part.
In fact, that became a thing(barely) just after WWI, after the Ottomans fall.
The USA and Europe have committed numerous genocides themselves, that’s hardly surprising.
what were they supposed to do?
Your damn right they did. Everybody new. It was all over the papers world wide
Canada did fuck all till 1923
The summer of 1923 the first 50 Armenian boys to be accepted to Canada.
One of those 50 boys was my grandfather. He was 9 years old when he arrived in Canada and put in an orphanage down in Ontario. .
You fool they are not Christian country but a democratic nation. If it’s then why you sanction Christians majority Venezuela 🇻🇪 ?? They already may get rich like Middle east GCC countries but sanctions made them failed
I am proud to be Armenian. The history of the Armenian genocide that this person told is 100% true. But the sad thing is that the Armenian genocide still continues, Turks with the hands of Azerbaijan attack Armenia and kill thousands of Armenians. Remember and recognise the Armenian genocide 🇦🇲.
Enver paşaya İtaat et
They took back the land the Armenian thieves stole, so piss off!
@@GofiksÇin e itaat et doğu türkistanmış😂
@@Everythinghasanendcorrect my Armenian brothers forgot Muslims Igor 😂
The events of 1915 did not happen, but as can be understood from this comment, there will be no country called Armenia in 2030 and we will expel the armenians in Turkey. 🇹🇷🇦🇿
I am a grandchild of genocide survivors on both sides of the family, surviving different and harrowing tortures and trials. I am from Marash. I'm from historical Armenia, Adana
@@jackie_twirlsmarashlian6947 well don't forget what the Armenian militia did in anatolia, they are no saints as they proclaim, they committed horrible massacres in the villages in anatolia the evidence and mass graves they found are there but the armenians deny they did anything, like always 🙄 playing the victim is easier to swallow...
@@VedatKoc-r8m try to sell that to the rest of the world. turks, kurds, azeris, xerxes are all guilty of committing massacres and genocide. you can an azeri gar-bage acting as a turk, you are just a bar-king do-g trying to impress your turkic masters but you are just a product of muta'ah marriage. go find your father instead of talking nonsense.
@@VedatKoc-r8m and yet no proof of such massacres committed by "Armenian militias" has ever been found. Armenians had their personal weapons confiscated en masse during the war, Armenian soldiers for the Ottomans were often shot in front of their fellow men just for the suspicion that they were working against the Ottoman state. You are right about one thing, it is much easier to play the victim, which is why Turks like you do it so frequently.
@@VedatKoc-r8m45 years ago my freinds grandmother spoke about Whitney really happened . the russians armed armenians and you can imagine what tok place . Live and let live.
@@VedatKoc-r8m get lost you silly thing
Christians. Don't forget Armenian christians.
christians? true christians are a minority spread around the world and no one can help you. christians are finished
As well as the Greek and Assyrians who were also Christians that faced Genocide by the Ottomans.
Armenians are Christian bud
@@Karteryt67 who said that they weren’t?
Armenia was actually the first Kingdom to adopt Christianity as their state religion (followed by Georgia and then Aksum or modern day Ethiopia and Eritrea.)
Thank you for spreading the truth and awareness about the Armenian genocide
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16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
this is only spreading biased "truth" and ongoing war propaganda start 100 years ago. Armanian diaspora lies.
Turkey wants us to call it Anatolia , but it was really the Armenian Highlands . By calling it Anatolia it conceals the fact that it was Armenia and original inhabitants , the Armenians living there . Anatolia is Greek term, it means Eastern Land(s) . It was just to describe direction of land but that land was Armenian Highlands .
It is not just the Genocide of 1915 1.5 million murdered (now estimated closer to 2 million) or the estimated 300,000 Armenians massacred in the 1895 etc.. People need to understand and know the history that Turkey is misleading the world.
Majority of Turkey and Azerbaijan you see today was Armenia . Even the northern edge of Iran was the Armenians. Around early 1200 AD began the migration of the Turkic Tribes from Turkmenistan area in Asia and settling in Armenia . When Ottoman Empire formed in 1299 AD , the Ottoman Turks conquered Armenia. This area was of great importance as it was central point of Europe , Middle East and Asia. After years of millions Armenians killed , when the Ottoman Empire fell you see today the new Ethnicity Turkey and Azerbaijan .
Turkey today is not the exact same ethnicity as their original roots . Over the years they mixed with Armenians, Greeks, Hungarians etc… The original darker complexion and slight oriental eyes have now become more “European” features . In the time of mixing races , the Turkish ethnicity has evolved and taken foods from different cultures such as the Armenians, Greeks and other Mediterranean dishes. Armenian Rugs , even ancient Artifacts that belong to the Armenian ancestors , Turkey has changed the name to deceive . For example , the Gobekli Tepe, (12,000 years old) is Armenian monument and the original name is Porta Sar. This is why many historians have a break in historians and can’t connect the dots. But more are starting to know the truth and see evidence that Armenians that built the Kara Hunj, Porta Sar (Gobekli Tepe) , Karajan Tepe, etc.. in Turkey also built Karkas in france, stone henge in Britain and Calanais in Scotland . Sadly Turkey continues to bully , incriminate and murder their historians if they speak and teach the truth . Taner Ackam is Turkish historian who speaks the truth of Turkey.
Azerbaijan , on the other hand was formed after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire , the Russian/Soviets took the Armenian land and distributed it to the new Azeri ethnicity . The Azeri are a mixed race of mostly Iranian, Tatar and Turkic . They claim to be of “Albanian” descendants that lived there (and different from Albania country) . But there is no historical fact or proof of such people existing there. The Armenians inhabited that land and later also the Iranians eastern half of Azerbaijan you see today . It’s insulting to see their lies when they show videos of Ancient Armenian monuments and Artifacts and claim to be “their ancestors” when the writing you see in there is clearly Armenian . Heck even their alphabet was created in the 1900’s .
Both Turkey and Azerbaijan have an agenda to spread misinformation in Wikipedia and published false history books . But historians that know the truth are now growing in numbers and the missing history is once more being connected with the truth . I can only share what I found , it’s time for your to see the truth . Don’t just rely on bogus sites , video clips or Wikipedia . You heard the truth now you know what to research .
What nationalists don't understand is in the "Armenian Highlands" not just the Armenians, the Kurds and the Turks lived also. Thus calling it Anatolia is the best option because calling it Armenian Highlands casts shadow in the rich ethnic diversity of the region.
Did you give an interview to a turkish youtuber?
It is incorrect to claim that there was a significant Armenian population in Western Anatolia before the Turks arrived. While there was an Armenian population in Eastern Anatolia, calling the entire region "Armenian Highlands" is historically misleading. Moreover, a large portion of the Azerbaijani people are of Turkish origin, and Azerbaijani lands have historically been under the influence of Turkish states. Historical figures like Shah Ismail, the founder of the Safavid Empire, were prominent representatives of Turkishness.
To reduce Turkish history to the borders of modern Turkey would be an injustice to the deep-rooted history of the Turkish nation. Even before the Soviet Union, Azerbaijani lands were inhabited by Turkish peoples. As for the claims that Armenians were massacred by Turks, while there are many debates on this matter, it should be noted that the Armenian relocation (Tehcir) carried out by the Ottoman Empire in 1915 was not intended as a genocide but rather to prevent possible rebellions and attempts to establish an Armenian state. At the same time, the atrocities committed by Armenian militias against the Turkish population should not be overlooked. These militias brutally tortured and killed innocent people, including women, children, and the elderly.
For those seeking more information, I recommend reading Prof. Dr. Yusuf Halaçoğlu's book "Ermeni Tehciri" (The Armenian Relocation), which provides documents proving that the relocation was not a genocide. Additionally, the accounts of Timsal Karabekir, daughter of Kazım Karabekir Pasha, shed light on the atrocities committed by Armenian militias.
In conclusion, it is important to approach historical events with a broader perspective rather than evaluating them from a single point of view. We must recognize the sufferings on both sides. The most accurate approach is to rely on historical documents and academic studies rather than popular historical narratives.
Thanks for this video
The Turks should pay MILLIONS OR TRILLIONS of compensation to the Armenians for the genocide and the denying of this genocide. God bless the Armenians abundantly.
If they had the money they would build their city’s right
Enver Paşam zamanında öyle bi sokmuş ki acısı hala çıkıyor demekki
😅😅 come and get it
@bgsab7912 You must be on something. Armenians would go bankrupt if they had to pay up for all their barbaric activities
@@meral5920 Armenians would go bankrupt..?? I think you don't the history. Fact is that the muslim Turks killed at least ONE MILLION Armenians in the 20th century. Turks denied this, but thanks to our Lord, we have testimonies and even a book WITH PICTURES of a German consul in Turkey. May God bless the Armenians abundantly.
Please consider contacting the US Holocaust Museum in DC asking for an exhibition on the Armenian genocide. The museum runs on federal funding and donations.
It is very strange Turkey has not recognized the Armenian Genocide yet, what a shame! I am German!
The conditions are different. Without foreign oversight and denazification efforts, Germany would most likely not recognize the holocaust. Almost all nations that perpetrate genocide at some point, tend towards denialism or willful ignorance for the survival of nationalism and the myth of innocence.
No such foreign oversight happened in Turkey.
@@eddie142 Yes, Turkey is awful, it can learn from Germany!
@@bayramsaz971 Turkey can learn from Germany, Erdogan is evil...
Blah, blah, blahhh🥱
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People don't know such heinous crime... every one know about Jews holocaust bt this holocaust not known... thanks for awareness......👍👍
Agreed, and I think one of the many reasons why the Armenian genoside is still very much unknown or taught is that the Nazis actually kept records and accounts and documents and turned the holocaust into a science, where the turkish government to this day refuses to acknowledge their crimes.
I am a Jew and very much aware of the Millions of Armenians innocent civilians murdered by the Turks. I am also aware of the 12 Million Congolese murdered by the Belgians in the 19th century.
Germans: OUR GENOCIDE OF THE NAMIBIANS IS THE WORST!!!
Turks: HOLD OUR RED HATS!
Thank you for sharing
I am only in the US because my grandparents escaped this genocide and nobody talks about it
Chxd,
I sincerely hope you and your family are doing well in America.
God bless you guys.
Ottoman empire : the supreme state
This genocide did not happened
@@FAKEGHOTS Hi, Turkish Alibaba and son of muhta,
The American Congress looked into the genocide of ARMENIANS by the TURKISH STATE. According to Congress you TURKS, committed GENOCIDE. By the way, there was a German consul in Turkey who saw it happening, wrote a book about it, with photos. So, mister FAKE, you're lying or have serious brain damage.
And... Only JESUS can help you. Keep praying to our Lord and keep smiling.
Yeah it did @@FAKEGHOTS
A fasist, always believes that he can erase all his crimes. Same happened with the Germans in WWII, same in 1915 with the Turks against Armenians - Greeks - Assyrians, same in 1957-62 against Greeks. The history can be manipulated, can be altered somehow, but can never be disappeared. This will be a weight on his descendants who must work hard to prove that they are better people today.
Nope. I don't have to do anything to prove that i am better than someone who live 100 or a 1000 years ago. We both have nothing to do with it.
What you said isn't true. History is written by winning side and if Turks had won WW -1, then we wouldn't have either known about this genocide or we would be taught the topic in a way that we ourselves would have justified this act. Same is the case with Hitler.
Just to highlight, Winston Churchill was responsible for killing more than 4.3 million Indians during WW-II by diverting food from India and hence creating the famine, moreover their were more than 10 famine during British rule which killed millions more (at the same time making British Empire rich) and see, no one talks about them in West.
Unfortunately, Indians haven't talked about it much either (probably we didn't wanted western economic sanctions right after getting independence). I hope Indians talk about it in future.
@@GauravSharma-lv7hzThe history can be written by the winners but always the truth is written somewhere, but someone has to try to find it.
@@georgiossarantitis3208 I agree with what you said, Truth about the history is always there somewhere in books...but when it comes to knowledge of masses, then the masses knows only that information which people in power decides to spread. This is one reason people don't think of Winston Churchill in same lines as that of Adolf Hitler.
@@GauravSharma-lv7hz How do you know that your informatiion pertaining to Churchil being as bad as Hitler is accurate. Or in other words, how do you distinguish between misinformation and the actual truth?
Thanks for the information brendon Frazier
The german ambassador in Ottoman Empire was informed about the situation and Germany tried to do something,but they were friends of the Turks and ga ve asylum to the person that ordered the relocation.The proud of the Turks is big and they do not want to pay for the mess.Nobody want to accept such a truth,but evidence is unfortunately for them hard.Even the Germans had old photos showing the atrocities!
The Ottoman Empire's existence is by far, the worst that has happened to the human race. No words can explain or justify the brutal slaughter parties that happened to the poor Armenians.
The true face of islam.Radical islam is a snake hiding in the grass. Moderate islam is the grass that hides the snake.
100%
Turkey must be expelled from NATO. Boycott all Turkish products
Some questions and comments:
Were ethnic Armenians a minority in their historical land?
Did the Russian (Tsar Nicholas) emperor help the Armenians, and not betray them, leaving unarmed people alone against the brutal Ottoman army through a cunning agreement with the Turkish leaders?
Why did Germans supply canons and weapons to the Turkish government?
Similar to NATO, which armed the Turkish government after World War II.
Question to NATO - why?
When Turkey was surrounded by poor countries. And the USSR was hardly able to attack the Turks, because Stalin had already given the Turks a huge part of the Armenian Highlands as a gift under the fraternal agreement of 1921.
Facts:
The 1911 census showed that the population of the Ottoman Empire was approximately 13 million. Ethnic Armenians about 4/4.2 million, Turks 5.5 million, ethnic Kurds 2.5 million, and other ethnic groups 1.5 million.
1.5 million were killed, 1.5 million remained unknown (fled or were killed), and the rest converted to Islam to survive.
It is strange that non-ethnic nomadic tribes created an empire and became dictators over all ethnic groups living in the Armenian Highlands.
According to the 2000 census, there were less than 30 thousand ethnic Armenians, 55 million Turks, 23 million Kurds, and the remaining 3/4 million.
It was not only a terrible genocide but also a deliberately planned act of genocide to eradicate Christian Armenians. The Ottomans knew for sure that in 50 years there would be 20 million ethnic Christian Armenians, and they would demand freedom, and then the Turks could not have done anything else.
For this reason, the Ottomans agreed with the Kurds and Germans to begin the fictitious resettlement of ethnic Christian Armenians as soon as possible. The Ottoman Empire precisely planned that during this fictitious migration, they should kill all the Armenians.
Ethnic Kurds were promised the land of ethnic Armenians.
The Germans were promised to control all roads from the Black Sea to Asia.
The Turks promised Tsar Nicholas brotherly relations with the Ottoman Empire - no more war.
Consequence: All nations living in Turkey increased approximately 10 times, but Armenians did not.
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Also, French, Great Britain and Italy also knew what was going on, they wanted the destruction of Ottoman Empire. They took over Arab land rich with oil.
@@Tamara-nn1wrThey did not care about the well-being of the Armenian nation. If that was in terms for their benefit, they would massacre all of the Armenians.
Where did you get the information that the Armenians of the Ottoman Empire numbered 4,5 million? Your arse? All sources put the number at 1,2 million to 1,5 million. Stop spreading bullshit, you cretin.
Brainwash
Thanks for elaborating on this historical fact. Never forget, never forgive.
You miss an important point… why ottomans started to see Armenians as a treat after 800 peaceful years? And you also forgot to mention Armenian tashnak paramilitary activities and massacres in the region by the help of Russians to weaken Turkish possession in the region….
There isn’t a “you need our side of the story” when it comes to genocide. No reason you could give is good enough to excuse what was done.
Doa ku menyertai rakyat armenia salam dari indonesia
I hope my Armenians brothers get the justice they deserve and return to their homeland that is occupied now by the Kurdish settlers. Just one thing: It wasn't the Armenians who were the first community to convert to Christianity, this is a mainstream historical falsification. The first community to convert to Christianity was the Arab Abgarid dynasty that settled northern Syria around 134 BC, and also their city Edessa was the first Christian city in the world.
I will show you a proof of document that there was no genocide. The document number FO 371/6504/E.8519 (13.07.1921) Letter from the British Embassy in Washington to the Foreign Office stating that no evidence of the Armenian genocide was found in the American archives, and there is no hope of finding any.
Первым государством, которая приняла христианство как государственную религию была Армения. Первой общиной христиан была еврейская община. А царь Абгар тоже имеет отношение к Армении
Armenia was first then Georgia then Aksum.
Excellent, TY!
I feel deep shame and sorrow for any park that my people Kurds played. I recognise it as a genocide and I weep with u. We must also remember the many Kurdish tribes that resistance the Armenian genocide and helped the Armenian. Many got killed while assisting the Armenians. There are countless stories of heroic efforts to Assist our Armenian brothers and for this i am proud. We love u today and weep for for your yesterday
Based on the flag on your profile i am guessing that you are not fond of Turkish people yourself and you may feel compelled to take the Armenian side, but you do realize that violence towards Armenians in the region by muslim locals (Kurdish and Turkish villagers) started because Armenian militia took arms against them first, not the other way around.
@@rastgelebiri932 and why do u think that is? Because the Turks tried to forcibly displace them and when they resisted it was mass murder and genocide. Youre ofc Turkish by the language you’re using and it really shows. Own up to your mistakes. It will always be genocide.
And who the f were you?
Thank you so much! We love the Kurdish people! ❤
@@rastgelebiri932Stop using excuses! Even so, does it justify the punishment of an entire race?? Armenians were known as the “loyal nation of the empire” for your information!! The Young Turks broke our trust by promising more autonomy if we helped them overthrow the Sultan in the late 1890’s and Sultan massacred over 100K Armenians as a result. By 1909 it was obvious they had lied to the Armenians and more massacres began in Adana in 1909! So the Armenians saw the Russians as their saviors! And remember that Eastern Anatolia is our Ancestral lands and we were under occupation for 500 years! You support the Palestinian cause, right??
Radical islam is a snake hiding in the grass. Moderate islam is the grass that hides the snake.
is-lamic history then and today, nothing good came out but atrocities and ani-mal instincts. Mus-lims are exposed and finished.
Very informative video, thank you!
that guy is a lie
@@FAKEGHOTS The Armenian genocide was perpetrated by the Young Turks 1915, while the Ottoman Empire was collapsing.
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Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today
Romans 6.23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
John 3:16-21
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Mark 1.15
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Hebrews 11:6
6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Jesus
How did I not learn about this in school?? Let’s honor all people not just Jewish holocaust victims but all genocide victims and survivors…. Angers me that this wasn’t seen as very important.
exactly, dig more (read more) and you will reveal many other truths
This was a horrible genocide. Turks must be brought to justice.
The events of 1915 did not happen, but as can be understood from this comment, there will be no country called Armenia in 2030 and we will expel the armenians in Turkey. 🇹🇷🇦🇿
Turkey must be expelled from NATO. Boycott all Turkish products
Germany and Turkey did this Genocide, Germany and Turkey have to compensate this.
Script:« Chances are you’ve heard the word “genocide” before. The Holocaust during World War II was considered an act of genocide, for example. But do you know the full definition ? The term “genocide” was coined by Polish lawyer Raphael Lemkin in his 1944 book “Axis Rule in Occupied Europe.” It comes from the Greek genos-race and ethnity-and cide-murder. The United Nations defines genocide as the mass extermination of a group of people based upon that community’s race, religion, ethnicity or nationality with the intent to destroy (…)
By the 19th century, Ottoman rulers began to view Armenian communities along the Russian border as a threat. Russia was a longtime enemy of the Ottomans. The Muslim community believed that the Armenians might turn on them if there were a war. So, Ottoman rulers attempted to dilute the Armenian community by resttling majority Muslim populations among them. In addition, some Turks and Kurds envied Armenians. They perceived Armenians as better off than themselves, with more wealth and higher literacy rates. Of course, this tension was based more on perception than fact.
After the assassination of the archduke in 1914, major European states declared war on each other. The Ottoman Empire, under the control of the Turks, aligned with Germany and Austria-Hungary. They would fight against the Entente, including Russia. The war renewed Turkish beliefs that Armenians would turn against the Ottomans and fight alongside Russia. The Turks also believed that the Armenians and Christian groups were getting in the way of achieving a more Turkic, Muslim empire. In the early years of the war, Armenians alongside Turks and Kurds against Russia and the Entente. However, after losing a major battle against Russia in 1915, the Turks began to blame Armenians for the loss.
Rumors soon spread that groups of Armenians were staging a rebellion. This created more hostility towards Armenians, both inside and outside of the military. In order to prevent rumored revolts, the Ottoman government ordered Armenian communities to be forcefully relocated from border areas and military fronts. Armenian soldiers had their weapons confiscated.
Described as « sitting ducks », some of these men were sent to labor camps. Then hundreds were taken out to deserted areas and shot. As historian Ronald Grigor Suny wrote in “A History of the Armenian Genocide,” “What evolved rapidly into genocide “began as sporadic massacres “ that, following a colossal defeat, “resulted in political panic, despair, and a thirst for vengeance.” The extermination of the Armenian people had begun.
Some Turkish officials in Istanbul tried to warn their Armenian friends. One official quietly told his friend, “A new storm is about to break upon the Armenians, so I hope that you will save yourself.” The recommendation was to leave for Europe immediately, without regard for property or investments. Many managed to escape ; some fled to Europe and others to America, but more horrors were to come. The relocation efforts soon turned into mass extermination, especially in the areas along the fronts and in rural provinces. Turkish and Kurdish soldiers forced whole families to march away from their homes. Their houses and possessions were later sold to the highest bidder. Bands of Ottoman soldiers marched through Armenian villages and tortured inhabitants. Armenian houses were robbed.
Churches were stripped and religious icons left in the mud. Turkish officials attempted to justify this violence by stating that these acts were in retaliation for Armenian rebellion. They claimed that Armenians in the eastern provinces must be removed or eliminated.
Fear and rumors continued to stoke the flames of violence. Some Armenians did rebel against the slaughtering of their people. This allowed Turkish authorities to justify increased removals and killings. One official ordered that all Armenian men over the age of 12 should be killed. Armenian women were raped and murdered or taken by Turkish men as wives. Small children became orphans. Some were adopted by Christian missionaries and others by Turkish families.
Christians in other parts of the world, in particular Europe and America, heard reports of Armenian persecution Organizations were formed to provide aid to a Christian community thousands of miles away. Some ambassadors living in Istanbul worked to convince Turkish officials to stop the violence. Nothing seemed to work. The American ambassador to Istanbul, Henry Morgenthau, Sr., described events as « a campaign of race extermintation ». From 1915 to 1917, over one million Armenians died. Most were executed as they journeyed to labor camps. They were buried in mass graves or burned. Some resisted, but any resistance provided officials with an excuse to justify their actions. After the war, some of the Turkish leaders who ordered the killings were brought to trial but only a few were punished. Others escaped, mainly to Germany.
In the years that followed, some of these men were assassinated by Armenians who sought revenge. To this day, the Turkish state maintains that the mass killing of Armenians did not happen or was justified. However, most major powers in the world recognize and memorize this period as the Armenian Genocide: the mass extermination of an ethnic or religion group»
You must read the book about the first Armenian president speech to learn the real history before blamimg Ottoman. Hovannes, the first Armenians president, was involve in the situation and witnessed the fact. He says Turks knew what to do and they did right, they have nothing to remorse today and future.
I literally just copied the text from the video to help my classmates and nothing else, without giving my opinion, so before typing your idiotic and irrelevant message, maybe pay attention to something in your life. Have a good day
@@elcactus4383 if you copied an information, you must write the source under the text. Else, it is called plagarizm and it is illegal. Maybe you should focus on your daily life duties rather than this kind of duties.
Burda Ermenileri masum gösterme gayretleri var.Birinci Dünya Savaşı yıllarında başta rus,ingiliz ve fransız hükümetlerinin silahlandırdığı Ermeni çeteleri müslümanlara karşı tam bir katliama girişimler.Şehirleri(Van),kasabalarda,köyleri basarak insanları vahşice katlettiler.Toplu mezarlar bulundu Bulunmaya devam ediyor.Ermeni çeteleri Rus ordusu ile savaş halinde olan türk ordusunun iaşe hatlarını vurdular.Türk ordusunu zor duruma düşürdüler.Osmanlı hükumeti müttefiki almanlarında baskısı ile meclisten göç kanunu çıkartıldı.1915 ocak ayından itibaren anadolunun doğusunda yaşayan ermeniler Türk askerinin gözetiminde güneye Suriye topraklarına sürüldü.Kürt çeteler intikam hırsıyla ermeni kervanlarını vurup mallarını yağmalama bazılarını işledikleri suçlardan dolayı öldürdüler.Birçok ermeni soğuktan,açlıktan ve Suriye çöllerinde susuzluktan öldü.Osmanlı arşiv belgelerine göre 53 000 ermeninin ölümü rapor edilmiş Buna karşılık 530 000 müslüman ermeni çeteleri tarafından katledilişinin.Tarihi çarpıtamazsınız.Soykırım yalanları tarafsız tarihçiler tarafından kabul edilmiyor.Bu yalan kampanyanız tutmaz
Turkey must be expelled from NATO. Boycott all Turkish products
More like 1.6 million murdered between 1915 - 1917. And you should talk about all the genocide events committed by Turkey and their little cousins Azerbaijan...
Bayazet, 1877, 1,400
Alashkert, 1879, 1,250
Alexandria, 1881, 2,000
Sasun, 1894, 12,000
Constantinople, 1896, 9,570
Van, 1896, 8,000
Hamidian massacres, 1894-1896, 300,000
Sasun, 1904, 5,640
Young Turk Revolution, 1908, 250,000
Adana massacre. 1909, 30,000
Conflict in the Balkans and Russia. 1912, 500,000
Van and Western Armenia, 1915, 1,600,000
Kars, Ardahan and Alexandropol. 1918, 100,000
Cilicia, 1919, 50,000
Kuvayi milliye, 1918-1920, 200,000
Sushi massacre, 1920, 50,000
Baku pogroms, 1990, 3,000
Sumgait, Baku, 1988-1990, 1,000
Kirovabad, 1988-1990, 1,000
Sumgait, Baku, Kirovabad, 1988-1990, 200,000 evicted
Maragha, 1992
Artsakh war attrocities, 2020, 7,000
Mr. V , learn Armenian history please.. and thank you
the Armenian Legion of the Wehrmacht in war against USSR, hoping that if Germany succeeded in conquering the USSR, they would grant Armenia independence.
After that
Adolf Hitler personally stated, "I
don't trust the Armenians."
Historian:Tacitus
Book : annalivm libri
Maneuvering between larger neighbours, the Armenians gained a reputation for deviousness; the Roman historian Tacitus called them an ambigua gens (“ambiguous people”).
A This word may mean "doubtful or uncertain
K.Patkanov, the famous Armenian historian, the Armenian scholar: “the Armenians have never played a particular role in the history of mankind. It is not a political term, but the name of a geographical province with scattered Armenian settlements. The Armenians have always been bad owners of lands, where they lived, but they could skillfully served the strong and betrayed the people close to them…”. (“Van inscriptions and its meaning for Front Asia”, 1875.).
• 1862: Zeitun Uprising (Ottoman Empire)
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* 1894: First Sasun Resistance
* 1895 October: Zeitun Rebellion
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* 1889: Bashkale clash (Ottoman Empire)
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* 1896 August 26: Ottoman Bank Takeover
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* 1905-1907: Armenian-Tatar massacres of 1905-1907 (Russian Armenia)
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* 1905 July 21: Yıldız assassination attempt
* Ottoman sultan (king)
* 1914 November 1: Bergmann Offensive. Drastamat Kanayan and second battalion of the Armenian volunteers (Caucasus Campaign)
* 1914: Battle of Sarikamish. Hamazasp (Srvandztian) and 3rd battalion. Keri (Arshak Gavafian) and 4th battalion. (Caucasus Campaign)
1,6 millions armenians were murdered ?
Between 1905 -1918 5 Millions Turks were murdered including kurds,lezgis,talishes,jews by arnenians in territories in Anatolia and Azerbaijan.
Now 30000 armenians are living in Baku 50000 armenians are living in Azerbaijan territory karabakh but no one Azerbaijanis in karabakh , no one Turk in armenia . armenians did ethnic cleansing in nagorno karabakh, armenians with russians committed genocide against AzerbaijaniTurks in Khojali 26th February 1992.
now Azerbaijany territory nagorno karabakh under the occupation of armenians and russian occupants.
Who did genocide ?
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@@Bozok3ok you and your people are guilty of crimes. enough with your lies. a nation and a religion of crimes, when are you going to see you blind ya ibnel sharmouta
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Facts being twisted.
Manipulated storytelling
one-sided propaganda
nice try
Name a source that wasnt written by a turk or an azeri that says otherwise
Tell us what are your sourced facts?
I grew up in the US, and am probably the only person who has read a book or two on the issue.
The tension between Turks and Armenians during the late Ottoman Empire era is a complex historical issue. Turkish newspapers at the time reported that Armenian revolutionary activities were causing instability, attacks on towns, and fires in cities and barns. These stories, whether accurate or exaggerated, fueled resentment and mistrust among many Turks who perceived Armenians as siding with the Empire's enemies, particularly during World War I.
As distrust grew, the Ottoman government decided to relocate the Armenian population, ostensibly to prevent further unrest and separatism. However, this forced relocation was poorly executed, and many Armenians were attacked by mobs, suffering from hunger, disease, and harsh conditions, resulting in numerous deaths.
Some compare this relocation to the U.S. government's forced relocation of Native Americans to Oklahoma in the 19th century, which also had tragic consequences. However, the nature and intent of the events involving the Armenians are highly debated. Many international historians recognize it as a genocide, while others, particularly in Turkey, argue against this classification, attributing the deaths to wartime chaos and mob violence rather than state-sponsored extermination.
The events of 1915, also known as the Armenian Genocide, remain a sensitive and disputed topic, particularly regarding intent and execution. Nonetheless, it significantly strained relations between Armenians and Turks and shaped both groups' national consciousness in the following years. For further reading, consult books like "The Armenian Genocide: A Complete History" by Raymond Kévorkian and "A Shameful Act" by Taner Akçam, which explore both perspectives in detail.
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What a shameless human you are Mr Chihan Vural, shame on you for not feeling pain, empathy for the 1. 5 million extermination of Armenians( humans) because human life matters as much as yours.... and you shamelessly try to joke on this and be ignorant wow, with this said you show your armenophobia, and show that you yourself could do this kind of acts and kill innocent lifes, because denying the facts and truth is also a form of killing....
As the son of an Armenian, I was well aware of this genocide. I learned of my dad's family history from "WE Walked, Then Ran".
Peace all over the World but that's not possible because Humans can turn into animals in no time 😢
Spot on, but want to emphasis that this genocide mainly occurred as the turks wanted a pure muslin state , not because the Armenians were of any threat to them. To this day this crime has not been punished, the turks still do not acknowledge what they did as they do not want to repay or give land back to the Armenians. Instead they support current (as in 2023) military actions being conducted by Azerbaijan (another Turkish state) to kill more Armenians and take whatever land Armenians still have. The world should condemn Turkey and Azerbaijan and stop these atrocities.
While you’re at it, why don’t you also condemn the people that destroyed Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc…..? Oh yeah, I know why, because those are Muslim countries. Sick of these hypocrites!
The events of 1915 did not happen, but as can be understood from this comment, there will be no country called Armenia in 2030 and we will expel the armenians in Turkey. 🇹🇷🇦🇿
Thank you for this information evil always wants to kill but the thing is why we silent for evil
Evils began to kill all children and women in Anatolia to establish Great Armenia by the help of Evil States... Evil killed 519000 civilians and so forced to deport!
For people who does not know I will try to explain in English. First of all the very term Anatolia is older than Turkish presence in Anatolia. The word itself has its roots in ancient Greek. On top of that Armenian presence in Anatolia increased during Turkification of Anatolia which begins around the year 860 and continues to this day. Before Turks started migrating into Anatolian plateau it was under the rule of Eastern Roman Empire and they were not kind to Armenians to say the least. Even at one point they were seen as public enemies and presecuted. So when Turks under the rule of Seljuks decided to face Eastern Roman Empire in Manzikert, there were Armenian mercenaries in Seljuk army. This was a start of a long lasting relationship among Turks and Armenians.
Turks took over Anatolia pretty quickly. Seljuks, after facing several waves of crusaders and a Mongol invasion, left their place to Ottomans. During Ottomans Armenian population was reveared respectable and they were even given a title which was "Millet-i sadık-a" which you can translate to the "loyal nation". But Ottomans were an islamic empire so they were only allowing muslims to join the army until the very end. So during foundation, rise and fall of the Ottomans non-muslim citizens of the empire were mainly focusing on crafts or trades. But all that's changed in late 19th and early 20th centuries.
In 1789 French revolution took place and with it the ideal of Nationalism was spreading all over Europe like rapid fire. Greeks revolted and backed by Europeans they gained their independence in year 1832. That was followed by some others like Bulgars and Serbians or Romania. This episode of history meant constant war for Ottomans. During this episode Muslim Turkish population of Anatolia was basically diminished. Armenians did not rebel against the Empire during this period. One of the reasons for that was that they were very well established by that time, they had money, they held monopolies on certain trades, they were becoming high ranked military or government agents and so on. They were even able to send their kids to Europe for education.
In early 20th century Ottoman Empire changed its approach towards non-muslim entities within the empire. They were no longer excluded from the military service, they have lost their minority privileges. Then started The Great War. Those Armenian kids who were sent to Europe for education started forming political bands such as Dashnak Sutyun or Hinchaks with one goal, which was to carve an Armeian country out of the weakening Ottoman Empire. In order to reach their goal those extremists started revolting in certain places, they assasinated Ottoman government officials abroad and homeland, they even tried to assasinate the sultan himself by planting a bomb on his vehicle. On parallel to that they initiated guerilla warfare in Anatolia. They were killing military, government and civilians alike and destoying villages in hopes of scaring off what's left from already divindling muslim population from Anatolia. They were sabotaging communications, destroying roads, bombing trains. All during World War 1. Even enlisted Armeian youngs were deserting the Ottoman army to join the Russians and so on. At one point they were even able to capture the city of Van and they held the city for a long time after massecaring the muslim population, to later deliver the city to the Russians. All before 1915.
While these horrid things were happening in Anatolia, Russia was struggling and their allies had only two option to bring help to them. One was through Baltic sea which was protected by Germans, the other and only reasonable option was to bring the aid through Dardanels and Bosphorus narrows while taking the Ottoman capital hence isolating Germans. But something unexpected happened, Turks were defending their capital with everything they got, so the greatest armada known to history failed to reach its goal and Russia was forced out of the war. Bolshevik revolts took place and Russians decided they already had too much on their plate so they abondaned the Easten front. This was bad news for the rebelious Armenians. They've had lost their biggest sponsor.
At this point WW1 was still going on, but Ottomans were losing on many fronts. They have had already lost Libya, Egypt, Hijaz, Yemen, Palastine or losing. They had to act fast so in 1915 they decided to move the Armenians out of the sensitive zones; which was the entire Anatolia, excluding Istanbul and Arab provinces; to be safe, just in case if Russia decided rejoin the war. The forced migration order issued and Armenians were forced to move to Syria, away from the eastern front. During this migration Ottomans tried to prevent losses but they couldn't really protect those people from the elements. First revenge killings took place, people were reactingt to what has been done to them. Then came irregulars, they were mostly interested in money and slaves, then starvation and sickness started claiming lives. That was a tragedy. But Ottomans never tried to erase an entire race out of the existance. If anything they even tried to prevent it. They even hanged people who were deemed responsible for some of the actions took place against Armenian civilians.
Anyway some of the Armenians reached the destinations which were set for them by the empire, some fled, some hid among locals; mostly women; married into non-Armenian families. After all that Ottoman's lost Syria to French and Armenians decided to join up with the French this time against their own country and they even invaded southeastern cities like Maraş, Antep, Adana, Urfa. But the local resistance was too strong and their French patrons were not willing to risk their necks for them, so they had lost and forced to retreat back into French controlled Syria and Lebanon. Later, most of the Armenians migrated to France, USA and many other places. That's how they became an effective disapora. This is why they are able to twist the truth. Armenia declined every offer that Turkey has made in past 50 years on creating an international committee to study these claimes and investigate what really took place. But they are not really interested in facts, all they want is attention and recognition. This is why all the fuss about. In fact this was a full on civil war with casualties on both sides.
Germans were helping Ottoman Turkes in their genocide of Armenians because they wanted to build Baghdad railway. They taught Ottoman Turks hiw to gas Armenians, and they perfected it in WWII.The Powers in Europe knew exactly what was going on, but they were more interested in what their gain would be for them afterwards.
The standard of proof in establishing the crime of genocide is formidable given the severity of the crime, the opportunity for overlap with other crimes, and the stigma of being charged with or found guilty of the crime. While presenting the Convention for ratification, the Secretary General of the U.N. emphasized that genocide is a crime of "specific intent," requiring conclusive proof that members of a group were targeted simply because they were members of that group. The Secretary General further cautioned that those merely sharing political aims are not protected by the convention.+
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One of the most ancient, rare and unique communities too.
Turk and Armenian relationships were good untill Ottomans statertednlose power and then Russia decided to take the their lands were possibel, by using Armenians. Russia was nearly there but then English decided to jump on as they did not want to give Ottoman lands to Russia but the themselves. English saved Ottomans from Russian invasion but then Turks lost Armenians as a result if the fake English project. There are still so many Turks live neighbouring countries such as Greece, Bulgaria, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Georgia. And so many Armanians live in Turkey. But no Turks in Armenia. No Turks at all, why? What happened to the Turks in Armenian land?
Your mental propaganda is not working anymore and it never was. Check is-lamic history then and today, nothing good came out but atrocities and ani-mal instincts. Turks and kurds are guilty of the massacres between 1850-1910, and the Armenian genocide 1915-1923.
Hey, what’s your price these days for mutaah nikah? oh, you're sunni - what’s your price for bay3 al-yamin. Armenians are your masters and they will always be. We know your history, your religion inside out and everything else nasty you plan. Mus-lims are exposed and finished.
@@MushoSultanyour poor knowledge of history can scam only international dummies
There was no Eastern Anatomy till early 1920s. It was called Armenian Highlands. Armenia and most of Turkey is in Asia Minor. They called it Eastern Anatolia to erase Armenian history.
I just learned that my 2x great grandma was 100% Armenian. Her story that she wrote down is the worst thing I've ever heard. God bless the missionary who saved her life after her parents "disappeared "
Christians forgive, but very little do we forget...
these missionaries are the reason of the disaster on Armenians. they scouted in the 1800s and next brought death unto the region. they stabbed the Armenians and helped the orphans and the desperate to convert to protestantism. time to forgive is over johnny, it's a wake up call. christians are no better
Turks: The world will never forget the Turkish genocide of 1,2 Million innocent Armenians. 🇦🇲❤🇮🇱❤🇦🇲❤🇮🇱❤🇺🇲❤
and the world will never forget the very well documented Palestinian genocide.
@@samcopernicus There IS NO SUCH THING as palestinians.. All are economic migrants from the miidle East, Kabyle and berber lands, some arabs, some chercassians from as far as Algeria, who came to the levant following the Jews' return to their ANCESTRAL MOTHERLAND - in search of food and work. Remember the whole region suffered from dire famine for almost a hundred years JUST LIKE the arabs of North Africa have been doing in Europe over the past 35 years. Latin Amercians and the USA. Mere economic migrants. There is NO SUCH thing as palestinians. Never has been. Never will be.
@@alainattar9227 do a DNA test bestie, compare it to a Palestinian's and tell me who is indigenous to the land.
@@samcopernicus I did. We are
Just because Armenians smart and creative others scared of sample is that
Just one question where did you learn this from
Don't tell me you learned this from school
It’s all made up
well unless you went to school in turkey or azerbaistan, you probably heards this
@@acidtechno8545- Even in some European countries it was a forbidden subject.
The conquered people did in fact serve in the Ottoman army. Actualy they were forced to. Young boys were taken from their families converted to Islam and turned into Yanisari - the elite troops. They were elite because only the very fitest surrvived the training years. And also those who accepted unquestionable obedience. There was no Ottoman Peace. There was always the ruling Muslims and the opresed others. From time to time some members of other communities did manage to escape the servitude and "make big". Most often than not it was only after they converted to Islam. Being an "infidel" meant that you were the enemy, a subjugated people never equal to the "true and faithful"
1915 to 1917 was just the worst expression of that treatment, which lasted for centuries.
While most people are aware of the Armenian genocide very few seem to know about the fate of Assyrians .
1991 establishment of the Republic of Armenia.
2024 The Assyians are in a worst situation in the middle East.
What about the genocide in Srebrenitsa Bosnië ex Yugoslavya or Rwanda who did that, not me?
did you?
@@IStMl you christians did all of that, always you christians always...
@@IStMl yeah I did 🙄🙄🙄
literally every Turkish : WHAT ABOUT
Nice "propaganda" ur thumbnail is picturing greece as a woman beeing freed by the young turks and not turks grooming some armenian woman. Otherwise the video is ok
Turkey had dramatically changed in the 20th century. The advance was rapid in the economy, education, and cultural life. Someone would wonder how these primitive nomadic people could progress so fast. The answer is what happened during the genocide of Christians. The assimilation of many thousands if not millions of Christians made a difference. The renaissance of Turkey happened when the children of assimilated Christians entered their productive lives.
Wow Turks were so primitive and Christian Europeans weren't killing women for being witch and having cleaning once in a year, making feces in the middle of streets, this is psychological defense system, the summary:you can't accept the truth
As a Turk, I condemn all forms of war. I wish we could continue to live with our Armenian citizens, I wish this forced migration had not happened. In fact, there are many Armenians still living in Turkey. One of the biggest mistakes of the Young Turks was that they were blindly ultranationalists and could not embrace the Armenians and caused them to establish terrorist organizations. In the end, it was the Young Turks who brought the Ottomans to destruction. In times of war, you would not have many options to protect minorities who take up arms and help the enemy from angry crowds. In fact, what happened to the Armenians was not much different from what happened to the Muslim peoples in the Balkans and the north of the Black Sea. I wish the Dashnaksutyun Armenian Terrorist Organization had never been established and the Armenians had not bet on the wrong horse.
No matter how hard you try, you cannot turn the Armenian events into a so-called genocide. It is neither similar to the holocaust nor to the genocide that Israel is currently committing in Palestine. There is nothing similar to the Bosnian genocide of the Serbs, the Algerian genocide of the French, or the Karabakh genocide of the Armenians. Even if you count the armed militants, it is impossible to reach the numbers mentioned today.
In this video a lot of incomplete, incorrect and changed information was given. Armenians committed the first terrorist act in history. They carried out a bomb attack on the Ottoman Sultan, against whom the Young Turks had staged a coup, at the exit of the Mosque. While Sultan survived by chance, 26 people died and 58 people were injured. So, to make a long story short, the Ottomans did not see the Armenians as a threat out of the blue, as described in the video. For years, with the instigation of the Armenian lobbies in France and Europe and Russia, they had already begun to betray the state in order to get a share of the cake. Long before the First World War, Armenians had already established two armed terrorist organizations. The Young Turks, who dethroned Sultan Abdulhamid II, whom the Armenians labeled the red sultan, made conditions even worse for the Armenians. During the First World War, many nations with a much larger population than the Armenians were deported, and the only nation that claims Genocide is the Armenians.
As an Armenian, as a humanoid and with great love to Turkish people, the Armenian Genocide has happened and it was a Genocide and that this the TRUTH!!!
The truth has a certain colour it can not be faked or changed..Trust me one day far far away, in star years we'll all live in peace as one human race,the genocide will be recognised and never repeated on other nations and we would all stop this chase and suffering and start live with love and truth in our hearts!!! Blessings to you
Reading this thread all the way from Australia- I have faith in our Armenian and Turkish communities ❤
Jews also had rebellious groups and fought Germans from Britain. There were also plots to poison German POWS and they hunted Nazis long after WWII with more assassinations than ASALA. Are you going to deny the Holocaust?
And Armenian massacres occurred long before 1915. 300,000 were butchered in the Hamidian massacres in the 1890s, 10,000 killed in the Adana massacres in 1909, and still, Turks try to blame the victims. You slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Assyrians as well and a million Pontic Greeks.
The Rwandan Genocide had Hutus blame the targeted Tutsis for being terrorists as well.
Your flag is the symbol of a trashy culture that justifies genocide. You’re no different than the Hutus who still try to justify and deny the genocide of Tutsis in Rwanda. How vulgar.
Sit down, turk... you have no right to speak on this topic.
Did you know that Armenians used to be millet-i sadık in Ottoman Empire at 20th century, which means the royal etnhic to Ottoman Empire, bad Pashas and Armenian gangs are the reason we fight as "Armenian Genocide" may God, or Allah, guide and unite us. 🇹🇷🤝🇦🇲
maybe you forgot how turks came to that region? armenians helped your nomad ancestors. how turkey is made? by crimes. is-lam is a crime religion. no gang nothing cengiz.. you know nothing but crimes as the rest of mus-lims. you. can't escape from paying the price
O sırada Talat ve Enver paşanın minimum Karizmas😽
Will you speak about indian american genocide too
And your source?
Source is literally everywhere buddy. Everywhere outside of Turkey and Azerbaijan. Its a well established fact that Turkey has blood all over its face as it continues to deny the Armenian Genocide. Thats a fact whether you believe it or not.
you kids keep deleting my comments. it won’t change the facts. which is you have no proof.
do you know who else forcefully silenced thoughts opposing to his? hitler. you have no difference by deleting the comments respectfully written here. buddy. who is the fascist now.
Efe Öztürk Okay kid I am not deleting your comments. I have no power to delete anyone’s comment. RUclips probably deleted your comment because it’s an absolute load of bullshit.
Every single library ( of coarse not turkey and Azerbaijan ) of archives...... read eye witness accounts, telegraphs and pictures from the times ! To be ignorant in this day and age only highlights your stupidity!
Why aren't you telling about Armenian's killing of civilian Turks as they rebelled against the empire to get autonomy by getting provoked by Western powers? Why aren't you talking about the massacres committed by Armenians against their Muslim neighbours which they lived peacefully together for centuries? You are saying that 'Ottomans believed' but you don't bring an explanation that why did they believe things like that? You are manipulating history, this is such a shame
So what about the Ottoman Empire taking land and forcing many to be slaves? Suppression and killing of those that wanted to be free from the empire.
prove sources first.
@@youknowme1475 we can prove our sources with documents but you have only stories, armenian, propaganda and history revisionism
The whataboutism again
@@MatejaMicic No, this is not whataboutism. It is reflected in the video as if all these events happened solely because of a decision of Ottoman Government, that is to say, because of their so-called ambitions and intolerance etc. However, the actual background is way different and what was done was in fact a reaction towards the own actions of the Armenians.
When you must face with the realities you always blame the opposers without bringing any argument, as the case of you and me right now discloses.
You know, all these events were never really like you 'created a narration of', by victimizing a side and evilifying the other totally. However; you are neither honest nor brave to acknowledge this fact. Such losers
Why don't you talk about the genocide the Armenians committed in Türkiye,you talk about the Armenians like they were saints which they were not they started the genocide in Türkiye when the ottoman empire was losing territory against the Russians
Let's just think about this theory; The Ottoman government ruled out Armenians from the army, society, and everywhere because of just suspicion of rebellion. But there was no rebellion :) Do you have any idea about Fedayis or Kamavors? How many Ottoman soldiers and innocent Turkish and Kurdish people were murdered by these terrorists. Armenian terrorists organized under the Hıncak and Tashnak and people saw what they did in Kars, Van, Erzurum all of East Anatolia and how savage the Armenian Gangs were. Ottoman people called them "Millet-i Sadıka" and this meant "Loyaliest Nation".There were a lot of Armenian administrators, Armenian artists, and Armenian wealthy people in the Ottoman. They have never lost their religion and language cause Ottomans never tried to assimilate them. But some Armenian radicalized terrorist organizations like Hıncak and Tashnak were funded by the Russians and attacked the vulnerable innocent villager during WW1. Let's just think about the situation, you are in a war and fighting on multi battles, losing your army and soldiers but far from the capitol every day coming news about the Armenian terrorists and how many people were killed today, what are you gonna do? The Ottoman government had a solution; resettlement of the Armenian people to another Ottoman territory. But they didn't have this safety and a lot of Armenian people died during this time. I love Armenian people, and I wish this kind of thinks never happened in history. Neither I'm Ottoman nor they are Hıncak and Tashnak. Some bad things have happened. I hope we can fix our relationship and create more strong communication with each other.
You mentioned about Hentchag and Tashnag parties about their revolutionary acts , but you’re not asking yourself why they attack , if the life was friendly why should somebody attack you the time beginning 1887 or 1890
( and this before 1915 the Great Genocide .
A good saying in our lifetime
“ when you put a cat in a closed room , and try to kill it , it will surprise you “.
This happened before the 1915 Massacre,
I will not open the whole history it needs volumes and encyclopedias
Thank you 🙏🇦🇲
What ww1 was happening in 1894-1896 when Turks killed 300,000 Armenians? Or in 1909 when they killed 30,000? You people are raised on lies. After you commit massacres, when Armenians defend themselves you say, "see, this is proof Armenians are killing us". If you expect Armenians to quietly accept their deaths you are sorely mistaken.
in 1918 armenian killed many turkish in Goyce but world doesnt like tell this ... becouse we are muslim
Exactly!!!! But that’s ok, because we Muslims will always defend ourselves until the end. We are no cowards
Because you are liars. You kill Armenians and when they fight back to survive, you say, "see, they are killing us". That's why there is not one reputable historian that has affirmed your lies.
There is a good reason nobody likes muslims
@@meral5920 you muslims should free Christian lands and get out of Constantinople. I’ll remind you that entire turkey is built on Greek and Armenian lands
That’s completely untrue. Have you even watched the video? Christians were unarmed. Open encyclopaedia Britannica and read. You oppressed Christians. You started it all
Thank you for this documentary of this great sin Turkish leaders and soldiers committed against my Christian brothers and sisters. There is a Holy God of Justice who will ultimately pass judgment.
The world is growing darker. There will be more wars, famine, disease, suffering as the Day of the Lord approaches. Read the Holy Scriptures be spiritually prepared, remain faithful, endure to the end.🕎📖✝️🔥🕊️🙌🏻❤️
Have you ever asked how many babies and children were killed by those barbarian Armenians? They killed 519000 Anatolians, mostly Muslim Kurds before they forced to deport! You just believe what is told to you.
No wonder the HELL is full of Turkish soldiers who committed genocide against the Armenians
The events of 1915 did not happen, but as can be understood from this comment, there will be no country called Armenia in 2030 and we will expel the armenians in Turkey. 🇹🇷🇦🇿
Actually , perhaps no Religion preaches hatred against other Religion. But there are some races , tribes and / or communities, esp., the males of such Races or families , etc. are jealous of others. To snatch away their jobs, money, animal - wealth , women folk and lands, such men under the false pretext of Religion, Races, caste or Class, Tradition, Nationality , Language , Tribe , Nationality, Dialect , Colour, Culture , Professional group, Family or / and Family background, even under a concocted false story, they try to attack n subdue the other poor man or men. And thus.... I personally think the Turks at that time wanted to do racial or ethnic cleansing of the neighbouring areas of Turkey. It was easier for them to keep the guise of Islam. Or may be , am not cocksure , just to convert the Non - Turks like , Armenians to Islam by any means. By fraud, by any means or by even, force. Because, it's easier for the stronger to bully the comparatively weaker person. Clearly, t Turks were stronger due to perhaps, non - veg diet, numerical strength , unity and shrewd brains. Last but not the least, t. TURKS 1st invented n manufactured Fire - arms in the whole world. Obviously, they were the first among diff. Muslim races to use the Guns and Canons/ fire arms. In India Also, the Uzbeks under the Mughal family first brought Guns after conquering Afghanistan. These Uz. - Mughals are a branch or race from Eastern Turkey. Though, they had a majority of Pathan / Patthaan - Khan Afghan army soldiers and officers under them , but these clever - crafty Turks never gave the charge of Gun or Gunnery to any Afghan - Pathan. Though these Pathans were Muslims too, and v. brave - honest. Atleast , during the rule of earlier Mughal Emperors, it did happen. During the later Mug. Period, t. size of the Mug Army increased drastically. Many Hindus , alongside with the neo Local Converts were inducted. Naturally, the later Mug. Kings were forced to take t. Afghan Pathans into confidence. Presently, some of t. Frontier Pathan - Khans stay in the N. West Front. Province or state of t. present Pakistan country. Under t. early British Rule, t. Brits. forcibly and with great difficulty snatched this Prov. from Afghanistan. This area should be neither controlled by India nor Pakistan. T. Pak . Govt. should hand over this area to Afghanistan. Same thing can be said ab. Ladhak, in our India. It was actually a part of the then free Buddhist kingdom of Tibet. It was captured by t. Sikh King of t. then Punjab under t. already declined Mug. Rule in Ind. Many cases of bullying, snatching , destroying n cheating go unreported in t whole world. Although, a man or male myself but I hate such activities. May be, am in the group of minority males. Lastly, Nice day all.
Armenians betrayed the Turks by uniting with the Russians for independence. If a country's citizens cooperate with the enemy, you either execute them or remove them from the battlefield. The Ottomans forced the Armenians to migrate. This is not genocide, they were forcibly taken to another place to ensure the safety of the soldiers and the Muslim people. This is not genocide. In other words, they were taken from one province of the Ottoman Empire to another province. In other words, they wanted to do what the Greeks, Serbians and Bulgarians did. but they were not successful. The difference is that one succeeds and the others fail. That's the whole point. They fought for independence and were defeated. Turks who lost the war in the Balkans and the Caucasus were sent into exile. We do not call this genocide. Other Christians did not call this event a genocide. He said forced migration and exile. Since genocide was a concept that emerged after the Second World War, Armenians used this concept because they did not accept what they had lost, thus they used their Christian brotherhood feelings and Christian sympathy in the Christian world. As a result, other people believed them. There was no concept of genocide at that time. So this concept was created later. These events are known as genocide, but it is not, but this information is wrong. In reality there is forced migration and treason.
Simple answer: Armenians backstabe ottomans. When Ottoman army was western front defending the country with some European imperialist encouragement and support so called Tashnak militias started massacres in east of today's Türkiye . Defensless villages was easy target. Women children old people were targeted. When some division of ottomans arme arrived to the area Armenians started crying and running. They told their mentors how strong was Ottoman army how victimised they were. And today they are still the instrument of these emperials. Also in Ottoman times Armenians were in high position in state. Tradesmen. Businessmen. Example why and how ziljian cymbals became so popular in music world.
Check is-lamic history then and today, nothing good came out but atrocities and ani-mal instincts. Turks and kurds are guilty of the massacres between 1850-1910, and the Armenian genocide 1915-1923. Mus-lims are exposed and finished.
@@MushoSultan nobody believe your bullshit propoganda
Well, isn't armenian genocide a pop, easy to talk about topic for anybody? In fact, maybe we should talk about what colonialist Europe did in Africa, too? Or how the British settlers fucked up the native American tribes?
What has happened has haopened. It is over. No matter the amount of talk will change it. So, suck it up and move along.
To your research as to how long the Armenians have lived there it's not a thousand years I can respect you talking about our genocide but if you want to do it historical numbers get the facts right please These are important pieces to that entire puzzle
It is biased. I recommend you to straighten your facts by reading Taner Akcam's books. Every story has two sides.
si come la terra che è piatta
Or talk about the genocide European countries and America France the UK committed all over the World
Can someone answer why DID Armenians COMMIT A KHOJALI GENOCIDE AGAINST AZERBAIJANI TURKS?
a few people dying isnt a genocide, you clown. And it was your own government that did it. sit down, clown.
are you normal? 1400 years of is-lamic kil-lings and genocide by turks and kurds and massacres by azeri abbas like you and you dare to talk about fake stories about khojaly like if you owned the lands that you're on now. go find your father, mutaah nikahının oğlu
About the recent Karabakh events, I must say I don't understand how Armeian side can claim that they are right in this one. Armenia was actively invading a piece of land, which belonged to another country, which was accepted that way by the international authorities, and claiming land by annexation is banned all over the world. On top of that they were asked to end the invasion in peacefull manners on multiple occasions by various western nations and UN and even Russia. Azerbaijan was defending its country and claiming what's already theirs by law. Did you know that Armenia killed thousands and created near a million refugee by invading Karabahk in 1994? How bias should you be to not see how wrong Armenia on this one?
Go so a shrink , you need help
Another Azeri and Turk trying to defend their crimes! Wrong place !!!! Azerbaijan is part of Iran! Russia took those lands during Ghajarie and later with help of Stalin who was a Criminal formed a fake and new country by giving Armenian historical lands. He deported so many people during Soviet time. Look who build Azerbaijan oil industry! And look what you did to him!!! Again Armenians! Ivan Mirzoev: An Armenian businessman who built the first wooden oil derrick in Baku in 1871. He also founded the Mirzoev Brothers oil company! Learn history!!! Before you talk! I mean history written by real historians not Brainwashed Azeris! After Mirzoev's death, The company remained active until 1918 when it was forced to shut down due to massacres against Armenians. Read again!!
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The Ottoman Archieves are the only reliable resources. Listen to the world historians. We all know this cannot go to those who scream out the louder in the social media. The facts matter. Also check what Armenian gangs were doing in the Turkish villages back then. It is important to have historical knowledge before jumping into any judgment.
Wrong. Ottoman archives clearly show that turks had an entire plan to exterminate the Armenians. Thats a fact whether you believe it or not. Turkey still has blood all over its face to this very day.
It's funny how the entire world disagrees with your "knowledge" of the genocide
@John Wim theres a lot of not white countries too your logic is flawed and so is ur brain 0iq looking ass
@John Wim look up a map of all the countries that have recognized the Armenian genocide I bet you won't
@John Wim didn't know Libya, Syria, and Iran were Christian countries
This is all nonsense. The Turkish side has repeatedly said that the historical archives should be opened and this issue should be discussed by historians. However,Armenians refused to accept this in order to use these events in the international arena for their political interest. As Atatürk’s ancestors, we have always existed and will always exist in these lands. We die once and rise again.
There is one point is wrong
it’s a hole, your hole
Many nations tried to create their own nation-states out of the Ottoman territory. Arabs and Balkan nations achieved but Armenians failed. Ottomans reacted with a survival instinct.
You are absolutely wrong about it, Turkey occupied Armenian territories by killing, deportation and Genocide of Armenians. There are dozens of evidences that most of Turkey territories belonged to Armenians, besides Armenians in Turkey were wealthy citizens and by killing and deportation they also grabbed their wealth.
It is very very biased and unfounded. The things you mention in this video have not any sources. Where’s your sources? Full of lies 😢
I thought this channel was going to mentioned something different than mainstream Armenian Stories…
Fairy-tails...
The end of those who lived on Ottoman soil and helped the Russian army during the Ottoman-Russian war.
Lol. Ottoman soil? 🤣 and whose soil it was before the Ottoman Empire? Ima tell you cause I’m sure you don’t know. That soil was Greek and Armenian. And they didn’t capture it from anyone like turks did.
You can be more respectful to the ancestors (Turks) of those who first discovered mathematics, physics, geometry, astronomy, the military order we use today and many other things. I also know that Greeks and Armenians came to Anatolia after the Urartu state.
@@nazmiaydogan2958 lol what🤣🤣🤣 turks first discovered mathematics? Physics? Geometry? Astronomy? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 military order? Ahahahhaha where did you read that? On turkish websites? 🤣
You can know these when you read about the contributions of the scientists of the Great Hun Empire, the Great Seljuk Empire, the Ghaznavids and the Khwarezmshah state to science.
@@nazmiaydogan2958 all nations contributed to science. However, the most contribution to the spheres you mentioned were made by Greeks, Indians, Arabs etc. not turks
There was some principalities and seigniories but they were not independent exactly because Byzantium was the ruler of that region and the Armenians were subject to Byzantium. The first Armenian deportation was carried out by Byzantium in 1020s and the Armenians in Van were sent to inner Anatolia and the Armenians faced with a lot of oppression due to denominational differences.This is why Armenians were at daggers drawn with Byzantians, in fact, until 1071 when Turks literally arrive at Anation, four Armenian principalities were laid low by Byzantium personally. In short, Armenians were not an independent folk. And interestingly, the big top independency was brought by Turks.
Beforehand Alp Arslan concluded an agreement with David the Armenian king whom he protected. Later on, in the reign of Melikshah, Armenians were released from a quite amount of tax. Basically, since the time of Seljuq and later on the establishment of Ottoman Empire, even the reign of Othman, Armenians and Turks were living in amity.
Additionaly, not only the Armenian patriarchate Havakin was officially recognized immediately, but also in the reign of Fatih, the Armenian patrician was invited to İstanbul and a new patriarchate in Galata was established. So that Armenians could live quite free, privileged and had religious freedom in the times of Ottoman and Seljuq.
Armenians were also exempted from military service and were allowed to be assigned to important seats in government, for that matter they are named for “millet-i sadıka” meaning “faithful nation.” And when examined, it is seen that until 1800s, Turks and Armenians were living peacefully up to the hint.
However, as time passes, when Ottoman started to die down, and the seats that Greeks left were given to Armenians, especially when various consulates and clerkships mostly were controlled by Armenians, which this hegemony reached its climax in the time of Ali Pasha, Armenians meant to gradually get rid of Turks and surround themselves with their relatives and cognates. It can be seen even today.
When a man becomes a minister, a mp or a mayor, he starts to surround himself with all his acquaintances. Armenians in Ottoman era did the same thing. However, due to the fact that Armenian faith and Ottoman faith which is islam confronted, the rift appeared in time. Whereas, Armenians, in a way, managed to survive thanks to Turks. if it were not for Turk eponyms; Ottoman and Seljuq, the name of Armenians due to the outrage of Byzantium and Europe would stay in history books at its best.
Yet, even the reason behind the establishment of Armenia was to object to Ottoman. We are talking about an Armenian meinie who gave 40 piastre tax annually, were not called for military service, had liberty of trade and of religion, were conferred on barraty, so to speak, living way more easefully than Turks in Ottoman lands.
So, how did everything get to be this way? That’s pretty cliche. First- propaganda; Second- nationalism. In the nineteenth century, nationalism became widespread meaning that everyone wanted to have an autonomous identity. Because Ottoman became so weak that foreign forces wanted to divide, split the Ottoman Empire and take the benjamin’s portion, which it was seen even in WWI.
The French in Mediterranean, in east the Russian, the Greek in Aegean and in İstanbul and in its round the British, in short, different nations occured on all sides of the country and they eventually started to fight with each other to have the biggest slice of the cake. And it’s a process, i mean that before the WWI, Ottoman was gradually divided throughout one hundred years, having lost lands in all regions, some revolts occured and the folk, solidly grew away from being a subject of Ottoman.
After all, because a Christian community living in an islamic georaphy was in the question, no matter if they had benefit from that or not, many countries tried their hands at that under the disguise of “brotherhood in Christ.” The projects started in the eighteenth century. Primarily, France sent some missionisers to catholicise Armenians and then with the interferences by other countries, approximately ten percent of armenians became protestant.
So, Armenians splitted among themselves, therefore they could not correspond with Ottoman since they could not achieve unity even among themselves. Armenians firstly became an enemy for Ottomans and then with the fire of nationalism, they want to build a country of their own. Of course, it had occured through that hundred-year time lapse. As i have stated before, there was a plenty of battles, revolts or contributions carried out behind the curtain.
Exempli gratia, the city of Erivan where was possessed by Iran was conquered by Russians in the time of Russian-Persian war in 1829 and tzar Nicola the First made a statement by saying “This incident is the day when the Armenians’ independence.” Since that day, a new correlation between Russians and Armenians has started to be made and that relation was based on the hostility towards Ottoman and this idea has been imposed in every chance.
For example, between circa 1853 and 1856, after the battle between Russia and Ottoman; Russia, though used to use the term “Asia of Turkey”, after the Paris Conference in 1856, started to use the term “Armenia” whereas there was neither such country nor Ottoman had lost that regions, so they were talking about a non-existed country and imposed the idea of a probable country in the future on the society.
With this fire, they worked hand-in-hand with Russia, Britain and other countries. That was not consist only of sharing a few maps or making up countries such as Armenia or Kurdistan. After the Edict of Reform in 1856, Robert College and American College of Merzifon and this kind of schools started to impose some ideas such as Ottoman hatred, Armenian nationalism on society even when in primary school age.
Teachers propagandized with insistances as “Ottomans made a massacre, they mow down Armenians, if it were not for Ottoman, there would be a great country called Armenia but Ottoman forestalled.” The generation was bred up to such ideologies, when they were old enough to have adequately important seats in 1890s-1900s, it was inevitable that they would like to actualize these ideas.
1800s was very tough for Ottoman. Almost in every trench there was either a revolt or was against another country. When it was 1877, the outbreak of a war (Russo-Turkish war) - which we call “93 Harbi”* (War of 93) - in Balkans and Caucasia to achieve Panslavism by Russians made everything even worse.
Because Ottoman had lost the war and had to ask for peace. Russians could make towards Istanbul after Plevne had been occupied. The war ended in 31th of January in 1878 with the armistice in Edirne and the peacetalks that paved the way for the Treaty of San Stefano also known as treaty of Yeşilköy had been given a start.
So to say, these talks were not so beneficial for Ottoman Empire. Moreover, during these discussions, Armenian patriarch Nerses Variabedyan and some Armenian leaders had negotiated with the grand duke Nikolai, tzar’s brother and managed to have them add an article about Armenians to the treaty. Consequently, the name of Armenians, first time in the history, is used in an official concordat and that was the first step toward the autarchy.However, this treaty was just on paper, not actualised because England foresaw that, by this treaty, Russia became over-powerful and demanded a new conference, which it didn’t acted just as a demand. Then Britain not only sent an armada to Istanbul but also having accorded with Austria (Oesterreich) then massed a lot of soldiers to the Danube region.
So, Russia was not sufficient for a second war so it had to accept the conference. Of course, Britain didn’t take Ottoman under its wings just for favour. In the meantime, Britain had some exclusive privileges behind the curtain. For example, Britain achieved the right to engarrison in Cyprus and to make reforms about the Armenians living in Ottoman lands and permitted them over-freedom.
But in the meantime Armenians were not unactive. In 17th of March, 1878, Variabedyan patriarch negotiated with Layard, ambassador of England and said if Britain supports, Armenian community is ready to rebel and decisive to establish a new Armenia. Because of that, in the Congress of Berlin which was gathered on behalf of the treaty of San Stefano, Bismark welcomed Armenians and get along with them, as well as other European countries supported Armenians.
That was so tragic for Ottoman because Ottoman made the disreputation “the sick man” in those congregations. The whole world saw that Ottoman was being divided, laid low, disappeared and couldn’t even have the right to sepak in its own land about its own vassals. In 1880 when Gladstone became the prime minister of England, conflicts reached the peakpoint.
Gladstone dealed with the Armenian issue to start with and in June of 1880, in tandem with the six nations, he wanted reforms to be made with Armenians in the east of Anatolia by sending a diplomatic note to Sublime Porte. After that interference of Gladstone, Armenians raised to the bait even more and resorted to terror by organizing gangs.
As an example, Hunchakian which means “jingle” and Tashnag (flag) parties are the most popular ones. Armenians, all over the board of the country, started to organize gangs, assault the society and the soldiers, and by letting out a yell of “Armenia” they terrorized. Additionally, whenever Ottoman quenched and intervene, it is launced as “murdered” in the West.
“Ottoman kills Armenians, attacks Christians!” These sort of news were always reported and the society was provoked against Ottoman. For example, in August of 1894, in Sason region in Bitlis Province, Armenians rebelled and slaughtered innocent people, then commenced fire, even gunfighted with the soldiers and when Ottoman quelled the revolt, all the West media published such fake news like “Ottoman is the murderer, Armenians are the wronged!” but no one talked about the slaughtered Turks and Muslims. Because there was a need for excuse, and on the plea of this, some countries -Britain particularly- send a memorandum to Ottoman for reforms on Armenians and them being more free, even free of any restrictions. However, Ottoman couldn’t agree with them and did reject the plan. And then, with the provacations of all these countries, Armenians effervesced even more and in Bitlis, Erzurum, Muş, Sivas and other regions, they started to revolts all around the country simultaneously.
Thereby, in a time lapse of one year, there had been 25 revolts and all of them were to establish an independent Armenia. And Ottoman had neither time nor patience to fight against them diplomatically. Due to the fact that in the 18th of April in 1897, Greco-Turkish War broke out, afterwards, some problems occured around the near east, in the lands of Arabs.
Here, during the unionist revolution and then the first world war, Ottoman was in a position so that no matter what they did, they would go wrong. Until 1915, there was 40 revolts in total. In short, deportation was not a sudden decision. After all these incidents, Ottoman either give up on 20 or 30 cities and say “take them, all done, do whatever you want to!” or scramble, which there was no chance of giving lands for free and for dividing the country.
If you do so, tomorrow or any other day, Laz people, Kurds, Balkanians, Arabs, other minorities would want to establish their own country. WWI was there, we -Ottomans- were already under occupation and losing lands, on the other hand, when armenians started to revolt and make troubles, Ottoman had to set the seal on the issue.
One should speculate, in 1895 a crowded Armenian group marched towards Sultanahmet with the guidance of the patriarch İzmirliyan, protested and around the same time, Ottoman bank was raided by Armenian gangs. Moreover, according to the written sources, many from the folk, i mean civilians were killed by the bombs of Armenians and additionally, they even committed to assassinate Abdulhamid who was the Sultan.
Those incidents did not appear suddenly, dear fellows, i mean if we are to speak of the emigration or so-called genocide, it’s a requirement that the background should also be understood because in the world maps that was published in that time, the West marked the east of Ottoman as “Armenia.” So to say, though the country was not splitted, they cut away the half of the land. That obviously was a provocation, a threat.
If you check even only the treaty of Yeniköy made in 8th of February in 1914, it’ll be enough. This is such a project that you divide the country as from Diyarbakır and make the region totally autarchical with foreign governors and inspectors. So, Ottomans gets divided into provinces. Having been not fought yet, Ottoman was already divided.And the worst part of it, if it were not for WWI, that plan could have been actualized. The outbreak of the war shot the project’s fox. Afterwards, similar bargains were offered to Damat Ferid Pasha like one hundred times but due to the War of Independence lead by Atatürk, they had failed again. I mean, regardless of if Ottoman was divided or not, Western countries had already the intention of establishing an Armenian and they would make no secret of it. Armenians, with the fire of that, continued to revolt and carried out acts of terror even more.
Through the Battle of Gallipoli* Armenian gangs still attacked on people. Consequently, Ottoman, with a ‘all-or-none’ principle, made a radical decision. That’s just much more the case. So, the people were send from there to somewhere else, the aim was to break the unity and to prevent probable revolts.
At that time, there were ones who fight against, attack, threaten with weapons, tease and make troubles, so some of them were killed but according to the West, they act as if the whole Armenian society were slaughtered, meaning that it’s claimed that a literal genocide occured and all the Armenians were killed completely.However, that’s a slander. There’s a strict difference between forcing people to immigrate and extinguish them completely. But when you look at the diaspora, they claim that one and a half million armenians were killed. Worst part of it is that people are buying this and when you deny it, they declare you anti-human immediately.
And of course, as from 24 of April, some of the Armenian leaders were arrested and sent to detention camps but none of them were killed in this moment, moreover, most of the ones who sent, came back to Istanbul. To give details, Deportation Law consisted of four articles:
Article First: In wartime, if the army commanders and corps and party headmans and their attorneys and independent rank commanders, witness to any hostility and trangession with weapons and resistance by the community in any sort of way,“against the actions and the arrangements that aim to maintain the orders from government, public order and defence of the country, are allowed and obligated to reciprocate with military forces in a most violent way; and in any offense and resistance situation, to neutralisation.” Meaning that the soldiers were free to use their weapons when obliged.
Article Second: “Army and corps and party commanders, due to the military requirements, when sense espionage or infidelity, can transfer people on a single basis or en masse to the other districts.” Meaning that by the government, commanders were given the right to relocate the ones whom they suspected to somewhere else.
Article Third: This law is valid since it’s publication. Article Fourth: The commander-in-chief and the ministry of war are the responsible for the validity of the judge. I decided on the enforcement and the pass of this temporary resolution by the seats in charge to be reported in the meeting of the general assembly of the parliament.
Hear me, i’m telling again; deportation is just having a group of people move from a place to another, of course during that there were ones who attacked to, pull a gun on the soldiers and resisted and kill and also killed but the law is crystal-clear. Yes, that’s a saddening incident, a whole group of people was relocated with all their belongings but just two years ago from that time, in Balkan Wars, Turks also went through the same thing. Turks in Balkan had to emigrate because the land was lost.
So, in wartime, these things can be happen. That’s understandable. And when they attempt to revolt and stage a coup and collaborate with the enemy, the right of them to complain and to cry is only possible in the fictional novels. Because the government primarily have to protect its own continuity. There is no any other possible solution, or anything else to do.
I do not accuse them with phoniness, they were revealed already later on. For example, some documents claimed as gotten from the Ottoman lands in Syria were shared by commander Allenby and it was claimed that in those documents, Ottoman gave a direct order to practice genocide. But later on it was revealed that such a document does not exist and these documents, let alone them gotten by Allenby in Syria, they actually appeared in France. Armenian Nationalist Federation in Paris prepared a report by themselves.
Addition to that, he made a lot of statements about the Armenian genocide assertions in 31 December of 1919, 27 Dec. Of 1920 and in 1 March of 1922 and stated that that’s a project of the British and when some provinces such as Bitlis and Van are used to establish Armenia, the authority of England will gain vigor in the Near East and that is the main purpose.The ones who read Nutuk already knows that. Additionally, it should be stated that in 24 March of 1915, with the help of Russia, approximately 2300 terrorists were caught from the federations such as Ramgavar, Halas, Towards Armenia and Dark Cross.
The Armenians who revolted and tried to stage a coup and practiced terrorism muust be brought to book for that. In short, the gangs. Because what Ottoman did was a self-defense. 100 Turks in ‘Zeitun Resistance’ in 1914, 3 thousand Turks in “Defense of Van” in 1915 and 20 thousand Turks in Muş in 1914-1915 lost their lives.
Armenians, since the revolt in Erzurum in 1890, attempted to revolt so many times but failed. When failed, the cruel piling on the agony is just being hypocrite. Zeve village of Van was completely slaughtered by Armenians without making any discrimination for women, children, elders and Armenians joined the Russian army with 15 thousand enlistee just to batte against the Ottoman, even there were tens of them considering their own wives and children as hindrances and sent them to Erivan. Ottoman did what was needed to be done.
And, if Ottoman was that anti-Armenian, then why in that time there was two Armenian congressman in Ottoman Council? This also should be questioned. Minister of foreign affairs Gabriyel Noradukyan and Oscar Efendi was also Armenian. How could they be oppressed and be deputies? How Bashruyan who studied law with the opportunities from Ottoman could be appointed to the chairmanship of the penalty department ? How could Kirkor Zohrac be appointed to the parliament of Istanbul and Hallaçyan to the public works ministry?
By the way, Hasruyan whom i just mentioned advocated an Armenian called Torlatyan who killed the minister of internal affairs Cevanshir Han in 1921. Again, the councellor of Mustafa Reşid Pasha who was one of the leading figures of Reform, was an Armenian named Agop Gırçıkyan. However, saddening part is that some armenians who were appointed to the parliamentarianship in Ottoman such as Noradukyan, as soon as the WWI had broken out, left the country and demanded to establish Armenia from countries like France.
Consequently, tragic events happened and the deportation didn’t leave good memories in minds. People died, starved, relocated but eventually, it was an obligation. No one is happy or proud of it, or say “we did a great job!” We just had to and that’s it. It’s seen that Armenian side of the dispute shares some skull, skeleton and bone pictures and say “look how many people did the murderer Turks kill!” but it’s unknown if they were killed as innocent people or gangster or not or killed in a gunfight.
Nowadays we are bombing PKK encampments. What we are gonna do?Apologize? Of course not. We are not gonna say “Aww, what a pity, wish we hadn’t done that” or something like that. The deportation was the consequence of a long-lasted hostileness and the hostile side isn’t the Ottoman. Unfortunately, that’s the truth.
Lastly I wanna end my history class with a book quote from Armenia's first president Ovannes Kaçaznuni, "The Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagtzoutiun) has Nothing to do Anymore":
"The deportations and
mass exiles and massacres which took place during the Summer and Autumn of
1915 were mortal blows to the Armenian Cause. Half of historical Armenia -“
the same half where the foundations of our independence would be laid
according to the traditions inherited by European diplomacy -" that half was
denuded of Armenians: the Armenian provinces of Turkey were without
Armenians. The Turks knew what they were doing and have no reason to regret
today. It was the most decisive method of extirpating the Armenian Question
from Turkey".
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Hakimiyet-i Milliye, 13 Kasım 1920.
You have many misconceptions in your video. Armenia was under Ottoman *occupation*. And Allah is not the God of the Bible. The Ottoman Empire was an Islamic empire that waged wars of conquest. Janissaries were castrated boys robbed from Christian parents to serve as Turkish troops. The Turks had a long history of castration for Christian slaves. All non-Islamics had to pay jizya under any Muslim rule. There is nothing willingly multicultural or multireligious about Islamic rule since 650 A.D, which marks the beginning of the Muslim conquests.
We definitely need "Vergangenheitsbewältigung". Cooperation is more beneficial both for Turks and Armenians. A society cannot be guilty collectively, therefore, it cannot be punished collectively. But as a legal term we can not use "Genocide" retroactively.
erkut ziya sivrikaya um, you can be collectively punished. Your entire country and Turks outside of turkey are denying it happened. That is a “collective” agreement. You are guilty. You committed a genocide.
you can judge a person. you may find him guilty or innocent. but you can't do this for a whole nation. Also, when using the word "genocide" for legal purposes, you cannot go backwards. otherwise, this word is used for thousands of communities and loses its meaning. Armenians were exiled collectively for "betrayal". this is collective punishment. this should not be done. crimes and punishments should be personal. a person can commit a crime, a nation can not. we have to cooperate. thats why we need vergangenheitsbewältigung. if you claim persons like me guilty of a crime i did not take part of this debate will continiue for ever and ever...
so we dont have to use a legal concept invented after II WW for 1915 retroactively.
erkut ziya sivrikaya you relize Raphael Lemkin based the word genocide on the Armenian genocide
erkut ziya sivrikaya deniers shall run
Historian:Tacitus
Book: annalivm libri
Maneuvering between larger neighbours, the Armenians gained a reputation for deviousness; the Roman historian Tacitus called them an ambigua gens (“ambiguous people”).
A This word may mean "doubtful or uncertain
Persian , Roman Empire wars . Armenian take side
Living in Roman Empire and back stabbing Roman
Living in Persian empire and back stabbing Persian .
World war 1; Armenian back stabbing ottoman army taking side of Russia
World war 2;
Living with Russian and back stabbing Russian taking side HITLER, NAZI .
İsn’t enough shame for Armenian ??? Fight side by side
HITLER ????
Shame on you
the Armenian Legion of the Wehrmacht in war against USSR, hoping that if Germany succeeded in conquering the USSR, they would grant Armenia independence.
After that
Adolf Hitler personally stated, "I
don't trust the Armenians."
Azerbaijani legion SS
clown
History repeats itself. The west and Russia knew that Armenians and other Christian population‐ all of them disarmed were under the hazard of annihilation. The same happened last 3,5 years. The dispopulation and annihilation of Armenians in Anatolia eventually led to big demographic and geopolitical changes. The results of these changes we still can witness today.
Classic Islam
Nice try my friend but it not Islamic. It was western nationalism.
Because the fact here the one who did admired the Western Nationalism more so than the Islamic.
Trust the Islamic themselves was don’t like the ideal of modernization themselves too.
@@thanhhoangnguyen4754 hey viet, isl-amic with 100% and turkic with 100%. these murderers are racists. go sell is-lam to gar-bages like you
İ love my ancestors :)))))
Look at Irak Syria Ukraine Israël man don't get me started...
start what abbas? you are guilty and you have no escape
🙏🏻❤️💙🧡🙏🏻thank you for your video
When lies get old - it becomes Armenian history
Pictures dont lie..!!
@@ph9692 now what 🔥 they did to Armenians now i have no sympathy for Palestinians.
True
You are absolutely right 👏👏👏👏👏
what about 1400 years old lies of your quran? it becomes crimes and you are guilty of it
Exercise I thought you said mass aremenian genocide
Yea they were moved for no reasons bcz Armenian gangs weren't killing unarmed Turkıc and Kurdish people in that area to have their own state
Maybe Mohammed shouldnt have had sex with pigs.
Open your eyes and tell the truth 😮
we all know what your prophet had done to aisha and then he flew on a donkey from quds. explain that manyac huseyin
Couldn’t watch beyond the use of BCE.
European version of the story.. that's why this video got significantly more like than dislike
U mean every other version of the story that wasnt written by a meat riding, propagandist, brainwashed turk/azeri, gotcha
Be careful, Turks may come and conquer any time !
Come to the camp Turk , Kurdistan will build
Be carful Turkey is being destroyed little by little even Mother Nature don’t like Turks
@@DarkSideOfTheGame22 maybe father nature likes you and your mum but not turks
@@Ethnooo I would definitely like you on top of your mom and both under me for sure op eza
First control the inflation in the country.
American historians Justin and Carolyn McCarthy:
"The modern territory of Armenia belongs not to Armenians, but to Azerbaijanis. This is the reason that most of the geographical names in the territory of Armenia belong to Azerbaijanis."
les mc carthy ont obtenu leurs doctorats a l'université ... du bosphore.. en turkey.. pour quelques euros de plus ils auraient pu acheter un ministere à bakou..... nier le genocide des arméniens leur rapporte gros
There is not Armenia.All Armenia terretories belong to Azerbaijan.
@@royaliyeva4565no turks Muslims in Azerbaijan from Asia Middle 😂Mongol Muslims Azerbaijan
@@royaliyeva4565 @basmas5664 keep dreaming you piece of sh-its
No genosid armenia. Azerbaijan is nov terrorizm as eny tarikh
go learn english sharmouta, you are acting holy in time your quran your everything is fake and full of mistakes. if you believe in G-d you shouldn't be racist and it's time for you to grow up and admit that you and your people are guilty of crimes
Brilliant documentary- well presented and indeed it this was the cause that sparked The Spread of Armenians to all parts of the world’s
Turkish government should take legal action for all these scammers who claims there were genocide as there is no proof of genocide and/ or verdict from an international court.
Bro turkiye was Ottoman Empire, so why don't the Turkish government apologise to the Armenian people
@@kwakuandspinopython1346why should Turkish government apologize although it is a lie?
@@kwakuandspinopython1346 For what?
@@Elifdagdelyou haven't heard of the Armenian genocide
@@kwakuandspinopython1346 it is a lie. There is no proof of that although there were very strict investigation was completed by United Kingdom authorities who hoped to find some evidences
Bruce Fein - associate dep. attorney general and general counsel of the Federal Communications Commission under President Ronald Regan, specialize in constitutional international law - VERBATIM: “It has no legal significance, it is a political statement, a confession by Mr. Biden, the Congress and by the Armenians that they have no legal case to make. The genocide convention which entered into force in 1951, Article 9 stipulates that any dispute arising under the convention as whether genocide or not, shall be taken to International Court of Justice in the Haque. 70 years of silence on the Armenians side because they do not have a legal case. They resorted to political donations to get political power and political statements. I have no doubt that Mr. Biden has not taken any serious investigation on what the genocide convention means, what are the elements of genocide, what transpired in 1915. Does he ever read European Court of Human Rights decision in 2015 stating there has not been any proven Armenian genocide, it is historical event that does not land on any conclusion. I believe it would have been far more sensible for Mr. Biden to urge Armenia use your right under Article 9 as the justice has been waiting for 70 years. Politicians are motivated with political moves, not historical facts. Justin Mc Carty says why Armenians are keeping their own achieves closed if they have a case, we assume that they have ready to present. Let’s use Armenians own statements in 1919, Feb 26 in Paris Peace Conference when they repeatedly say they we were offered autonomy by the Sultan but rejected to be loyal and enlisted to fight enemies of Ottoman Empire. Armenians also acknowledged that they became belligerents and Ottoman Turks died in the same proportion as Ottoman Armenians in the arisen conflict. I think Turks should approach the International Court of Justice under Article 9 and saying that they are being injured with the false allegations to reach at least a judicial resolution.”
Don't worry orusbu Muslim supremacist untouchable sharmoota taqiyya lying child rapist orusbu. How are your people? Buried six feet under by your Allah? Are you crying your orusbu racist rapist eyes out? Good! Hope Israel fs you like you've never been fd up. You orusbu sharmootas and your pedo western sharmoita Muslim brotherhood allies. Allah akbar, it's what Allah wills. Looks like Allah is slowly annihilating your priviledged untouchable above the law kind. You thought you were 😂