"Most Underrated Skating Skill" - Derek Popke
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- Опубликовано: 31 авг 2017
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Thanks to Derek Popke, Kevin Bieksa, and Ben Chiarot for inviting me out to their pre-season skate. In this video Derek Popke shares a quick tip for improving skating with 3 drills to improve the outside edge.
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I train with Derek popke in Vancouver he's really awesome
hey lol I follow u on Insta
Same how old are you
Oliver Clements same
These drills helped me open up my entire game. Was struggling with the outside edge and now it’s my favorite tool. Thanks for this video!
Your welcome
So true for young players. Outside is hardest edge to learn and trust. By the way these drills are way way harder than he makes them look!
I transitioned recently from roller to ice (in my 30s) and the outside edge is my biggest challenge. Thanks for this video, can't wait to start working on it!
Best advice ever for a hockey player! Mastering the outside edge is the biggest game changer for any young hockey player...or old guy like me trying to coach my boys and be a good role model.
Thanks for all the help coach keep doing what our doing!
This is so freaking cool. I started doing this on my own without realizing it when I was trying to stop better. I would start turning with my inside skate (outside edge) first instead of both skates at the same time. After I got used to that, I could do a much better staggered hockey stop with both feed really wide. I am now trying to get a better feel for my outside edge by using this first drill. I asked other players what I was doing, and they had no idea. Now I know other people do it too.
Wow great video, did some of this intuitively but so helpful to see the mechanic in a tight turn
Thanks for the video! I will get to work on these drills. Outside edge work is my biggest weakness
Awesome video! Thanks! Need to practice this a lot.
You make it look so effortless.
Awesome vids jeremy and thanks for the tips
Back in the days before I knew how to make a proper hockey stop: The first stop I would make was actually an outside edge stop on the right foot like a "T-stop". But later on, I managed to learn and master the real hockey stop.
Outside edge on the week foot on the other hand is very hard.
Im exactly the same. I'm so comfortable with it that I can almost always stop at high speed using the outside edge on my left foot (one footed, right foot lifted off the ice). But I'm having real trouble with the hockey stop, it's currently more of a hockey slide right now :(
I never new I had an outside edge that was usable....thanks for sharing these drills.
Brilliant video. Completely agree. Outside edge control is underrated. I train with figure skaters at times to refresh my skating ability. Excellent video.
Thanks for tip. Gonna practice this next time I go to rink as exactly what I need to turn faster.
Wow you dont know how long ive been searching for a good drill to improve my outside edge stop. Im a fast learner and improved all aspect of my game but the only thing i couldnt figure is how to have a solid stop on both feet (weak outside edge stop). These drills look awsome
His skills are so graceful
Love the skating tips. I am playing drop ins after not playing for 17 yrs. I am 58 and LOVIN IT... Takin my time, doin a few exercises at home to try to get my legs goin. I am in ok shape for a ole fart and been keepin up pretty well with some AA players in a mens league. They come to drop ins so i get to skate with and against em...two old coaches of mine, Bill Quackenbush and Warren Heinz. Bill was a Bruin and Red Wing and coach at Princeton U. My dad wad golf coach and Bill let me skate with Tigers sometimes during practice. I also attended two summer camps of his, Pocumtuck hockey school in Mass. Warren Heinz was my coach in Houston Tx when i played for Jr Areos all star travel team 1978-79... we were 15-17 yr olds...
Trying to get back into hockey after 30 years. This is very helpful. I really need to build my ankle strength on the outside edge. I have having my skates done up tight to the top eyelets. I go one down. Feels much better but my ankles are bit mushy still.
The outside edge stop on one skate is so tough, but these drills are great, really helps my overall balance and confidence
Great advice!
_,,It's one of the hardest edges to use"_
Yep, and two out of four edges under our feet are considered outside edges :D
I wish I could do the T-stops and outside edge stops
Very useful video! Thx
Oooo !!!! Love it.. cuz i'm a figure skater who has been in hockey skates for a little over a year( still do both every day off)... outside egdes hard for me in hockey skates... BUT...trying hard!!
Great stuff
Wish i had the money to practive ice hockey again. Its just so awesome
Jeremy I love your videos can you do one on different types of deyeks
What is recomended radius of blade sharpening for training of such drills? Is it standard 1/2 inch or bigger?
Two things:
1) I tried some of these tips last night and they worked so much, it really helped understand the feel of being on my outside edges.
2) What's the name of the song used? Shaman isn't bringing anything up.
A lot of RUclipsrs use royaltyfree music sourced online or made specifically for them by someone else, which is why Shazam and SoundHound can't recognise them.
DarkDramon *
Thanks for that I could never seem to master it
Coach Jeremy any tips or videos on mastering the T stop? My outside edge control is getting better but this is something I can't seem to get the hang of.
Get really low! Check out how low Derek's butt gets in these. His knees are bent almost 90 degrees. And before you put your back foot down, really bend the knee of the front foot and get your weight onto your glute muscle, so you're really strong and stable before you put that back foot down. Not bending the front leg enough is the biggest obstacle to doing these right.
Good drills.
Are there any exercises that I can do at the gym to help with my outside edges?
I can stop on my outside edge and Im working on the punch stop, but its mainly How do I realllly use it for a full 100% hockey stop
This is the video that I've been looking for. Every time I ask someone around here how I work on my outside edges, they respond by saying that it's not that important. I say it is, and Derek Popke agrees with me. Perhaps the title should read, "Outside Edges," or something of the like.
BarbVValters anyone who says that outside edges aren't important in hockey have zero clue what they are talking about lol
Back in the early days we learned this playing tag on the ice. Today kids in the recreation league miss out on skating drills. they need some ice time devoted to power skating.
I train with him also in vancouver
Derek Popke amazing player
The tight turns at the end...do you really use a outside edge to slow down and then turn your hips? I never learnt to do tight turns like that, but if done with speed it could be useful
Cannot skate with outside-edge for the life of me. Was not 'committing my weight' and barefly managed crossovers. I will try the reverse C-cuts because they seem like a far easier starter.
They are hard. Try skating on one leg on an outside edge on a gentle curve. For example, skating on your right leg, turning gently to the right. Once you get that, see if you can weight your skate so that the back end of the skate starts to slide, making the turn tighter. That is an outside edge slide. It's scary at first, but easier with practice.
Danke!
One foot outside edge stop..... Hope one day I can do it :)))
Will I need a stiffer skate for this? I've been using a $60 skate so far learning to skate and I've gotten to a point where I want to learn how to do this and I just can't.
Why do you apply the Front brake ( outside edge ) Before making a tight turn? Wouldn't you be able to take the turn and put your weight into it
I wish these videos existed when I was a kid
Do you always stop a little using the outside edge before doing a tight turn? Or did he just do that to make it more clear that you'll need to work the outside edge in a tight turn? Thx!
yeah you always need to use the outside edge to initiate that tight turn, but he definitely exaggerated the movement.
This makes me want hockey season to come faster but it's about to start for me 😀
what song plays in this vid?
Hey Jeremy, I love your videos, and this question is a little off topic, but I was wondering if you know anyway how to turn a lefty stick to a righty stick,everyone in my family is a lefty,but me,and since I'm the youngest there are a lot of lefty sticks going to waste,anyways great video!
Or don't be a cheapo and buy a righty stick
Problem solved
I like trains I have other sticks, just no one uses the leftys
Sawing off the blade and buying a left handed blade (like Sauce said) is pretty much your only option. But it's much better to buy your own stick. A "converted stick" has a much much higher flex than the original stick; the stick also loses all its qualities. You are much better off buying a cheap stick than using an expensive "converted stick". An advanced player will never use converted sticks (unless it's for practice) and a beginner will just waste precious learning time getting used to a crappy stick. Using a converted stick will only teach you that converted sticks suck.
You should use the lefty sticks anyway, the strong hand belongs on to of the stick.
Will I am English
Gretzky used this technique a lot to cut into the slot from the right hand side.
I worked with Derek Popke for a summer back in my junior days and he made me a better player. Glad to see he's still out there preaching the hockey gospel!
Testify!
We did this drill in my hockey which is a 12 to 14 team
Hello Derek, I think the outside edge C cut is a real killer drill. I thought repeating this exercise would be the shortest way to the one foot outside edge stop. But the thing is I can’t even start the cut. As I showed your video to my very advanced level free skater pals and had them do it, some were able to simulate the move but were yet far from cutting the ice.
And thanks for the T stop in a sitting position. I saw some other tutorial videos teaching how to T stop, one saying jump on the back skate, the other saying drag the back skate inside edge and gradually turn into outside. None of these worked after hundreds of repetitions. But your method just enabled me to T stop in every position just after a few trial. I truly thank you for that!
Yeah, seeing Derek sitting low in the T stop was a huge help! Totally improved my T stop.
Also, going around two small cones in a figure 8 pattern, 10 feet apart, using the outside edge of one skate is another good way of developing skating on the outside edge. That is backwards, Clockwise, leaning on outside edge of left foot skate. Counter Clockwise direction for your right foot skate. With the knee bent a little, make yourself short so your fall to the ice is not too bad. Go slow at first. Alternate feet cone 1 use left skate/leg then cone 2 use right skate/leg. The other skate should be lifted off the ice as you make the backward turn around each cone. The same should be done in a forward direction. The size of your turn radius is not important at first. Just make the turn complete. As you get better you can take a tighter turn and lower and faster into the turn. First without a puck, months later with a puck. Your calf size will get like tree stumps and you will build not only good edge control but strong legs. A must for defensive players. This is how I taught myself to be a great skater. Its grueling at first and scary but you can do it. Be careful you don't put you hand out to support a fall you may bend your hand back and damage your fingers or wrist. Slow to modest speed and curl up when you fall backwards so you don't wack the back of your helmet against the ice too hard. These to things happened to me so take your time. It may take you a couple of years to master but its worth it. One last thing within this exercise contains a lot of hockey. If you master this drill other drills will come easier.
Can you give me music's name plz ?
Just Get it - Eric Caspar (3 years later, finally found it ...)
one of the best skating classes i went to for hockey was actually taught by a male figure skater and shit was that hard skating on on foot, stopping on foot on outside edges or t stops, it was really difficult but at the end of the day made me a way faster skater, came 2nd and 1st in my regional fastest skating allstar games.
1:48 for some reason I was told not to do T-stop in 90's as a kid.
Might be referring to doing the T-stop that involves dragging your inside edge behind you...which is terrible but is very common for folks learning to skate.
Hell yeah. Practice. Practice. Practice. Make sure to stretch and take care of your body! It will make it so much easier when learning.
Reduce the time of the intro would be my recommendation.
2:05 he makes it look so easy and smooth. Outside edge one footed stops is my next targeted skill
Dereks my coach
Oof today I got on the Ice and found out that I can't really use my right foot, it's tough now but I will get through it.. But it's funny because I mostly use my right side of the body, in any sport but in hockey my right foot is like not mine.. And even though I have problem with my left knee it's for me much easier to use left outside edge and also doing stops and anything..
Same here.
0:50 he doesnt blink the whole time
Can you explain a little more in depth what you do with your other foot and where you are focusing the weight on your main foot?
Itelligym is a program my Hockey team is using try it out
sometimes i wonder if it is ankle inflexibility that ultimately leads to retirement
When you're doing that last turning drill why don't you just start crossing over? Just wondering?
hard to cross over that tight and fast, but you can see in some of them he starts crossing over after the turn
Matt Wallace okay thank you this helps a lot
the hardest part has to be weight distribution, I just don't get it yet.
I see winnipeg jets in tumbnail I click
"One of the hardest edges to use" Meanwhile here I am, only knowing how to stop on my outside edge and struggling to learn how to use my inside...
Why the music?
I play hockey, but i have no clue for what this is good for, somebody pls tell me
maybe this link will help explain it:
ruclips.net/video/RFeZU8OLmmw/видео.html .... and it is another great resource for skating
Last!
Can you make a music video of the song used in the video?
I can do it with my left. No hope for my right.
Same
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There benders compared to bubbles
One of the most important edge bruh theres two 😭
"one of the hardest edges to use"
Well, there are two edges, so I guess they're both "hardest"
No it’s the same edge just on the other skate
There are 4 on one skate actually.
5ubZ3r0o there’s two on each skate inside edge and outside edge
was bringt das innen bremsen vor der kurve bitte
Back in the day, that's how we use to stop.
Hello
1st like comment
Clicked on this just cause I saw Jets on it like if ur the same
5/20/2018 watching Jets game now !! They're losing 1-0 But wanted to see how hockey players make tight turns.
The exact same reason
Lmao
bobby orr never did that and he was the best skater ever
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"Mastering the outside edge"... ummmmm okay. Anytime you're on the OUTSIDE edge of one skate, you're on the INSIDE edge of the other.
Sorry iam better