Amateur MMA Fighter & Bodybuilder vs Kyokushin Karate Master

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    A pretty nice showcase of the Kyokushin skillset against somebody unfamiliar with the ruleset.
    To be clear this is NOT meant as anything else than a short but impressive display of Kyokushin fighting skills and how debilitating it can be to deal with when you're not used to it.
    Thanks for watching!
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  • @SaikouKarate
    @SaikouKarate  Год назад +55

    I Trained Full-Contact Karate In Japan For 3 Months! 🇯🇵🥋
    ruclips.net/video/K2ii1VBCOrs/видео.html

  • @abdelhakym8283
    @abdelhakym8283 2 года назад +3777

    This is why you learn takedowns,just in case you square up with a guy that moves like a Tekken caracter

    • @kellenparker4783
      @kellenparker4783 2 года назад +275

      I think the MMA guy might know takedowns and grappling techniques(or not)… But I guess he’s fighting under Kyokushin rules… hence no takedowns or grappling.. otherwise it’ll suck for the Kyokushin guy (unless he too knows how to grapple)

    • @JR-ch8rt
      @JR-ch8rt 2 года назад +9

      Lol

    • @markmessi9020
      @markmessi9020 2 года назад +105

      A whole style of Jin Kazama's trying to juggle you with kicks

    • @seraphinaaizen6278
      @seraphinaaizen6278 2 года назад +126

      @@kellenparker4783 There are throws and some basic grappling in some styles of karate. So if the grappler is inexperienced, a skilled karateka might still be able to escape.
      In this fight, I think the biggest difference maker was experience. The MMA guy looked rattled after that onslaught, like he wasn't used to being attacked (even though those strikes were really controlled), but there was a BIG gap in both experience and skill level here. He started getting clubbered and didn't know what to do.
      Even if the guy was allowed to do takedowns, I'm not convinced it would have helped him. He was getting smothered.

    • @carritohmc
      @carritohmc 2 года назад +29

      True, although to be fair, as some others have pointed out there are some takedowns in Karate, I know in Juko competitions basically all Judo techniques are legal, and Karate Combat is even allowing very limited ground and pound, which is very good, it might turn them into full-on ground fighters, but exposes them to enough grappling to develop some awareness of hips, underhooks etc. But yeah, that guy moves like Jin, and looks big too.

  • @sig1761
    @sig1761 2 года назад +2313

    I love how light the kyokushin guy moves despite looking so heavy

    • @ibastratepi
      @ibastratepi 2 года назад +93

      Thats what I notice with kick martial arts - excellent light feet, balance and positioning

    • @johnsolberg5611
      @johnsolberg5611 2 года назад +31

      The other guy didn't even throw a punch.

    • @grandwonder5858
      @grandwonder5858 2 года назад +23

      Too busy running away and avoid getting hit!

    • @mizmera
      @mizmera 2 года назад +3

      Amazing.

    • @SgawCules
      @SgawCules 2 года назад +10

      @@ibastratepi you're obviously referring to east Asian martial arts when it comes to that aspect because there is nothing light when It comes to Muay Thai or lethwei

  • @AlexHellene
    @AlexHellene 2 года назад +342

    People look at UFC, and say ''only Lyoto Machida from Karate was a top fighter.''
    However the K-1, which was the world's greatest strikers, many Karate fighters did well in it (almost all from Kyokushin), that were more celebrated fighters than Lyoto Machida. Andy Hug (1 time) and Semmy Schilt (4 times) are former K-1 World champs, Francisco Filho was arguably the most feared fighter in K-1 when he first came in, Sam Greco, Ewerton Teixeira, just to name a few.
    I agree that point scoring based Karate, and their techniques are questionable, as highly effective martial arts.
    Kyokushin Karate though, which is full contact, and power based techniques is on a different level though, and that's been proven in the K-1.

    • @TaStiCleS_91
      @TaStiCleS_91 Год назад +25

      Bas Rutten too

    • @sallhame
      @sallhame 10 месяцев назад +31

      The Kyokushin guy in this clip uses no power. He could have ended this fight in seconds if he wanted to. So he shows the right Kyokushin spirit. (I am a second Dan myself) Osu!

    • @belalabusultan5911
      @belalabusultan5911 10 месяцев назад +17

      you still need to take boxing classes if you want to make Kyokushin work in a real fight, Kyokushin has curved punches, but it creates a blind spot on the head, because you learn not to care about protecting your head.... boxing will fix that.
      there are limited takedowns and no grappling in Karate, so you'll still need a grappling martial art too.

    • @majimamike4097
      @majimamike4097 10 месяцев назад +3

      Συμφωνώ απόλυτα ωστόσο χρειάζεται και πυγμαχία φίλε μου μαζί με το kyokushin για να θεωρείται πλήρες το striking.

    • @thunderkatz4219
      @thunderkatz4219 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@majimamike4097I do Okinawan and boxing

  • @StockyDude
    @StockyDude 9 месяцев назад +72

    Kyokushin is a respectable version of Karate because it’s students are actually expected to do some sparring before being promoted, not just demonstrating good form in a choreographed presentation.

    • @SuperBC10
      @SuperBC10 2 месяца назад +5

      They also take belts away too if the instructors feel the students have neglected their training.

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Месяц назад +2

      I'm not sure what karate styles you've seen, but every dojo that I've been to (Shotokan and Wado-ryu) requires kumité and self-defence during grading, plus participation in competition for prospective black belts. The first night of my 2nd Dan grading, they literally kept me going until complete exhaustion, switching between kata, pairs work, kumité and other things constantly. It turned out that they were testing my character too, to see if I would give up or keep pushing through the exhaustion.
      All that said, Kyokushin looks brutally tough. If I ever find a dojo, I'm not assuming anything based on my experience, even if the sensei offers to start me at a higher grade. I'd start from the beginning, keep my mouth shut and do the work.

    • @AnthonyLauder
      @AnthonyLauder Месяц назад

      @@Cailus3542 there are plenty of karate schools, particularly in the USA, where even little kids age 7 or 8 are getting black belts. No way are those kids capable of real sparring, other than against other kids their own age. These are "all must win prizes" belts. And a lot of schools pretty much have a schedule, where students are put forward for belts based on how long they have been there.

    • @UrbanDefenseSystems
      @UrbanDefenseSystems 26 дней назад

      @@Cailus3542 you know exactly which one's he's seen. the fact you're being obtuse to something so readily recognizable shows you know.

  • @wdtripps44
    @wdtripps44 2 года назад +1212

    The man is extremely good, doesn't take much of a trained eye to pick up on that. And the MMA fighter was being very respectful as well.

    • @nobodyharder6575
      @nobodyharder6575 2 года назад +79

      Nah the MMA guy just sucked. He was flinching at his every move lol he's scared to spar

    • @denisl2760
      @denisl2760 2 года назад +18

      @@nobodyharder6575 Could be just not being used to the rules. Idk maybe his instinct is to close distance and clinch but its not allowed?

    • @you-pingyang2644
      @you-pingyang2644 2 года назад +57

      @@nobodyharder6575 this guy is a RUclipsr who pick on mma one or two years ago, he wasn’t representing mma or challenge this guy, he was just trying to see different martial art and experience it, so yea, he’s not good but that’s not the point

    • @tiffanycrotts6936
      @tiffanycrotts6936 2 года назад +4

      Everything is allowed in Kyokushin as it is a bare knuckle, unless gloves are agreed upon like here for head contact, take down, choke, submission full contact karate. Only joint kicks/hits or anything to the spine is not allowed.

    • @joespears5082
      @joespears5082 2 года назад +2

      He did good for an island boy🎶🛶🏝️

  • @ryanbarclay7939
    @ryanbarclay7939 2 года назад +557

    Question: What is with the sudden animosity toward Karate in these comments? Last I checked, Karate (and Kyokushin in particular) was widely respected in the MMA and kickboxing communities. Kyokushin (with cross training of course) has produced numerous top-notch strikers, including the likes of GSP, Bas Rutten and Raymond Dekkers. Expanding to Karate generally, you can include Lyoto Machida (Shotokan), Stephen Thompson (Kempo) and Michelle Waterson (Karate style unknown by me, maybe someone in the comments knows).
    They're good at kicks. No one is pretending they have it all, but if you want powerful, dynamic highly accurate kicks, cross train some karate (or TKD for that matter). Kyokushin will get you really great at landing head kicks. You may be vulnerable to head punches, but boxers are vulnerable to leg kicks, and wrestlers are vulnerable to choke holds. Just cross train, you will be fine.

    • @Taekwon-Brando
      @Taekwon-Brando 2 года назад +74

      As someone who cross trains BJJ, Muay Thai, Judo, And Taekwondo I wholeheartedly agree with this statement! Keep training man 🤙

    • @kerpal321
      @kerpal321 2 года назад +45

      connor mgregors style is also heavily karate based

    • @LeyvatenLoop
      @LeyvatenLoop 2 года назад +100

      The sudden animosity towards Karate comes from the "the thing I like lost, so I feel personally attacked and need to retaliate" mentality. Pretty common around the internet :v

    • @kamiloo86
      @kamiloo86 2 года назад +23

      Great comment and very true i know world champion in Kickboxing who started as a kid in Kyokushin. Kyokushin helped mu a lot with bulding core muscles, stamina, precision and this beast mental - never give up/surrender. We should respect all martials arts, Budo (center) is one

    • @bikerslow2598
      @bikerslow2598 2 года назад +34

      Keyboard warriors...

  • @CaptBane-mt2sw
    @CaptBane-mt2sw 11 месяцев назад +85

    I met the kyokushin guy during a kyokushin training seminar in the Philippines last december 18,2022. He’s actually a shihan on the taiwan branch, a really kind guy and a fun guy to be with. He does mma as well with kyokushin as his foundation. Really skilled fighter with a humble attitude. Great teacher as well

    • @jimihendrixx11
      @jimihendrixx11 7 месяцев назад

      Is he from Japan or Taiwan

    • @NewNew-cp7wn
      @NewNew-cp7wn 4 месяца назад +2

      He's a solid unit

    • @CaptBane-mt2sw
      @CaptBane-mt2sw 4 месяца назад

      @@jimihendrixx11 Taiwan

    • @DennisBLee
      @DennisBLee 3 месяца назад +2

      holy shit, as someone who has trained in BJJ and MT, this dude is legitimately scary. Just goes to show traditional martial arts still has a lot of merit.

    • @MichaelDamianPHD
      @MichaelDamianPHD 3 месяца назад

      What is his name?

  • @beetalius
    @beetalius 2 года назад +206

    How nimble he is, and how light and controlled those strikes! True master

    • @Slycoop
      @Slycoop 3 месяца назад +2

      I'm genuinely impressed. I talk smack on karate usually but those crescent kicks were actually super viable and almost worked as a set up for a question mark kick. 👏

    • @percy9228
      @percy9228 Месяц назад

      @@Slycoop in a sport like bodybuilding athletes take their own pictures and they all look like they will win the competition until they compete on stage and you can see they weren't as big as the photos made them look out to be.
      I've learnt (and I think many others) to not put to much emphasis on this dojo fighters. yes his feet where quick but fighters show more aggression and plan ahead. against this karate guy, you'd try to charge at him and take him to the floor. MMA shows what techniques work. not many are learning karate if any

    • @Slycoop
      @Slycoop Месяц назад +1

      @@percy9228 yea ofc this guy wouldn't last two seconds in MMA. But we know elements of it work (Wonderboy, MVP, ect)
      I saw some clean techniques here. Give those techniques to a well rounded MMA fighter and he could actually make em work is what I'm saying.

    • @percy9228
      @percy9228 Месяц назад

      @@Slycoop agreed but how long did it take to learn those techniques. how ingrained are they in his fighting style? will he be able to adapt, because I think its decades worth of training on just those leg kicks. his punch at the end was weak, I know he didn't try though.
      also notice how smooth the kicks were, in MMA you barely got time to have that much freedom, how well does he do under pressure.

  • @seabee0733
    @seabee0733 2 года назад +432

    The words here are Master and amateur. Big difference. Looks like the Master is in his own Dojo. If you have ever spar a true Master in kyukoshin you will never forget it. Especially a challenge in front of his students. I would like to see how well the mma guy would do in a no rules match though

    • @eeroekebom1147
      @eeroekebom1147 2 года назад +62

      Not well against this Master, I think it is clear. The master is really taking it very easy on the guy.

    • @user-nu8vw1ow4n
      @user-nu8vw1ow4n 2 года назад +6

      Karate Had The Choping Hand to Chop People head when they try to tackle not even Use Elbow and Knee at all (No Rule)

    • @hiranom20
      @hiranom20 2 года назад +7

      @Frederic Rikam A serious Japanese-style karateka from any school (old school training) of similar ability and experience to an mma fighter would be a good challenge.

    • @bryanshaw4434
      @bryanshaw4434 2 года назад +15

      I started martial arts in 1972 and got a first-degree in Isshinryu karate and then a seventh degree in Taekwondo plus kickboxing and other martial arts training. I wish when I started I knew about kyokushin karate. That just puts it all together.

    • @ryansiroproductions
      @ryansiroproductions 2 года назад +37

      Against a dude with wrestling Experience they would get pickup up slammed taken to side control or mount and then beaten up.

  • @Roll_Vids
    @Roll_Vids 2 года назад +50

    I love how he was smiling the entire time. Full control of those exchanges!

  • @bw5020
    @bw5020 2 года назад +39

    His opponent didn't throw any offense.
    I am not one to knock karate, with Kyokushin being a favorite, but... This really felt self-aggrandizing

    • @baqikenny
      @baqikenny 2 года назад

      actually if one watches the entire episode with eng sub, they would know that guy in blue is just having fun letting the master do his thing, guy in blue has some good exp in sparring actually but he's mainly focused on conditioning

    • @RedgraveGilver
      @RedgraveGilver 3 месяца назад +7

      He can't throw any offense because the Master is not letting him. Use your common sense bro jesus.

    • @HonkeyKong54
      @HonkeyKong54 2 месяца назад +3

      Because this is bs. They pulled this bum off the street.

    • @HonkeyKong54
      @HonkeyKong54 2 месяца назад +1

      Throwing those flashy kicks with your hands down is hilarious.

    • @ohboy7790
      @ohboy7790 Месяц назад

      yeah they sure meant amateur

  • @darthclone7
    @darthclone7 2 года назад +22

    Damn honestly even amongst other Kyokushin I've seen, this guy stands out.. his personal style is just unique somehow

  • @mackthnife3
    @mackthnife3 2 года назад +91

    I was fortunate enough to attend a weekend seminar with Mas Oyama and some of his instructors in the 60s, in Chicago. One thing not mentioned, is the emphasis he placed on physical fitness, strength training and endurance exercises....much of the seminar was gut wrenching ...
    Little emphasis was on technique ....I was glad when it was over...lol

    • @rtyler1869
      @rtyler1869 2 года назад +4

      That is so true with Kyokushin. Even now, 60 years latter there is a big focus on physical fitness, and in going for my 7th kyu in a few weeks one of thr items that crops up is improved fitness.
      When I graded to 8, in the following class, I was getting winded doing Kata, and was up to 8 in a role, my master chewed me out. Being swinging, biking and gaming on top of training 2-3 times a week just to get ready.

    • @mackthnife3
      @mackthnife3 2 года назад +2

      @@rtyler1869 , the one thing that sticks in my mind, about that weekend, was having to stand on our heads against a wall (no hands), while the instructors walked around slapping our stomachs...seemed like forever....lol...it was an unconventional experience as my school was a traditional Mu Duk Kwan TKD place. However, the dojang owner, was a very influential man in the Chicago MA community in the 60s , and had some relationship to Mr. Oyama...his name was Mr Shin.
      My instructor ( not the owner) invited some of us to join in...I dont think any of them spoke english. It was a very special experience in my martial arts journey...🙂

    • @rtyler1869
      @rtyler1869 2 года назад +4

      @@mackthnife3 ouch.
      The last time I trained in Karate was Wado Ryu back in the early 90’s. did not get very far into the style.
      Spent about 6 months training and early on, the style grand master came out from Okinawa, and the Dojo owner who was a Sandan had us do something like 90 push Ups and 300 sit ups on the trot.
      Here is me unfit 21 yo going at it and dying in the back of the class.
      Fitness is very big in Karate. Just some styles like Kyokushin take it to thur extreme. And we are all the better for it.

    • @mackthnife3
      @mackthnife3 2 года назад

      @@rtyler1869 I bet...it was intense....I was 15 years old...lol
      If you like old school karate stories, I did a series on Count Dante and the Chicago Dojo Wars....I was a young shodan at the time of that debacle and training in Chitown...feel free to check them out......nice chatting🙂

    • @francescosaso2522
      @francescosaso2522 2 года назад +1

      Combatte da solo l altro non reagisce

  • @rebkhai
    @rebkhai 2 года назад +86

    That was awesome. I remember feeling those kicks and leg sweeps when sparring with Kyokushin fighters from Japan.

  • @mrdcato
    @mrdcato 27 дней назад +2

    Very well done sir. Your awareness and decision making about your kicks is phenomenal.

  • @insuchaway
    @insuchaway 2 года назад +11

    Impressive; it looked like he was floating from kick to kick. Phenomenal footwork.

  • @TristanBehrens
    @TristanBehrens 2 года назад +72

    Not exactly representative. The "MMA guy" clearly has very little experience as he's flinching and closing his eyes at every strike, and reaching out to try to block the kicks (this is the first thing you learn not to do if you train). He doesn't even throw a single strike whether due to lack of experience or out of respect, I don't know, however there were a LOT of openings for counters. I would bet from this video he hasn't trained for more than a couple of years consistently.
    Furthermore he's fighting someone very experienced in a rule-set that he has likely never trained under. Make that Kyokushin master wrestle with high-school kids and you'd see something very similar in the opposite direction.
    Having said that, the black belt is clearly very skilled at what he does, I dont want to sound like I'm bashing him, it just seems slightly unfair to me. Entertaining, nevertheless, however...

    • @timothyfreeman97
      @timothyfreeman97 2 года назад +1

      Why would that Kyokoshin want to wrestle with high school boys? He'd just kickbox them.

    • @TristanBehrens
      @TristanBehrens 2 года назад +12

      @@timothyfreeman97 he'd get double legged and pounded...

    • @thelastmojican4480
      @thelastmojican4480 2 года назад +2

      you know what you're right ...but instead of trying to find a high school kid wrestler why don't you find the black belt master here and fight (spar) him yourself ?

    • @s0methingrarer
      @s0methingrarer 2 года назад +1

      The young guy here is barely attacking. How much easier can me make it for the master?

    • @BalDevVD
      @BalDevVD 2 года назад

      Let em have this, how many videos out there of MMA guys stomping over traditional martial artists who I wouldn't dare call experienced. Besides, the title clarifies, it's an amateur over there.

  • @masjut1
    @masjut1 2 года назад +11

    Beautiful. The teacher moved so great. Respect!

  • @raymoe76
    @raymoe76 2 года назад +9

    What impressed me most was the control. Lightning speed but only connects with power when he chooses to. That's mastery!

    • @tyronekim3506
      @tyronekim3506 2 года назад

      Your words are spot on. I would add: his(the master's) attack was unrelenting.
      Be safe and in good health.

    • @raymoe76
      @raymoe76 2 года назад +1

      @@tyronekim3506 yes unrelenting is correct. Beautiful technique too, I loved watching it again. Lets all keep safe my friend.

    • @freetrade8830
      @freetrade8830 9 месяцев назад +1

      I always found that using the right amount of force was extremely difficult when sparring. You obviously want to get a decent hit, but you don't want to cause too much pain - especially with smaller opponents.

  • @stevebrindle1724
    @stevebrindle1724 2 года назад +19

    I am currently 68yrs old and have studied several martial arts since my mid-teens and have always considered Kyokushin by far the best school of karate in the world!

  • @ricardoblikman2676
    @ricardoblikman2676 2 года назад +33

    Man you can see how good of a fighter he is due to the flow of technique choice for the distance and position he has not even one technique is wasted.

    • @johngilmore697
      @johngilmore697 10 месяцев назад

      I'd crush him.

    • @santiagooarg6990
      @santiagooarg6990 10 месяцев назад

      @@johngilmore697 yeah, it's easy when your opponent is not throwing anything. Was he actually a mma fighter?

    • @johngilmore697
      @johngilmore697 10 месяцев назад

      @@santiagooarg6990 They don’t mess with the Daddy! KISS KISS BANG BANG

    • @halfdoc97
      @halfdoc97 6 месяцев назад

      you would get thrashed mate. I can assure you that.@@johngilmore697

    • @HonkeyKong54
      @HonkeyKong54 2 месяца назад

      Yes you can see how great he is throwing flashy bs, hands down, and gassing himself out in less then 3 mins 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @elijasuiters9932
    @elijasuiters9932 2 года назад +30

    Everyone in the comments is so mad for some reason.
    A jiujitsu guy will typically perform more impressively in jiujitsu than an mma fighter, because those are the rules he trains for. The same way that a karate guy will usually perform more impressively in a karate ruleset than an mma fighter. Just because mma has all ranges of combat doesn't mean that an mma fighter will be god tier at every combat sport.

    • @tiffanystevens3595
      @tiffanystevens3595 2 года назад +4

      Very true! It's the individuals who truly don't understand martial arts, these same said individuals believe that MMA is the be all to the end all!

    • @eclipsewrecker
      @eclipsewrecker 2 года назад +1

      You don’t think that some of the “mad” comments are due to the dishonest/braggadocios nature of these types of videos?
      It’s almost like it’s an answer to a question no one asked. If it were a longer video then we might know more.

    • @GMunoz-oj5zb
      @GMunoz-oj5zb 2 года назад +4

      MMA: Jack of all trades, master of none

    • @eclipsewrecker
      @eclipsewrecker 2 года назад +5

      @@GMunoz-oj5zb hahaha probably most of the time. And sometimes, “Jack of all trades, master of one.” And rarely: “Jack of all trades, master of some.”

    • @GMunoz-oj5zb
      @GMunoz-oj5zb 2 года назад +1

      @@eclipsewrecker true too

  • @davidverdugo6266
    @davidverdugo6266 2 года назад +7

    Dudes kicks are insanely good and incredible footwork and ability to cover distance.

  • @MerumMinus88
    @MerumMinus88 2 года назад +17

    Amazing display of control and speed. Can’t imagine how is to get hit by a guy like him in his 100% power

    • @AMLagonda
      @AMLagonda 2 года назад +7

      I dont think you would remember it, when you wake...

    • @HonkeyKong54
      @HonkeyKong54 2 месяца назад

      He would be throwing flashy bs with his hands down while a real mma fighter would block and then feed him a vicious overhand 😂

    • @soysauce4087
      @soysauce4087 Месяц назад

      @@HonkeyKong54 And you’re here taking shit with no experiences whatsoever, lmao. Pathetic.

  • @mheung910
    @mheung910 2 года назад +8

    This guy is more of a bodybuilder than a “MMA” guy... that’s for sure.

  • @lucaslimal3
    @lucaslimal3 2 года назад +8

    Maaann!!
    This guy can sure control his legs.
    Amaizing skills!

  • @np494609
    @np494609 25 дней назад +2

    That guy is not an mma fighter he has no striking abilities. He looked like a civilian out there.

  • @Ishowspeedshorts488
    @Ishowspeedshorts488 2 года назад +13

    I wish I could go back in time and train like that. Kyokushin is very well represented in this video, and will add kyokushin is a dangerous form of karate. It’s full contact form makes it dangerous to even practice, without getting injured.

    • @mattjack3983
      @mattjack3983 2 года назад +2

      I trained at a Dojo for a long time that didn't have any qualms at all with full contact training. Black eyes, busted iips, bloody noses were very common. Like, pretty much every night. Definitely not for everyone. We had a group of about 25 really dedicated students, all black belts and brown belts who were about to be black belts..and then there was a revolving door of white belts lol. The white belt turnover rate was really high. But hey, you either wanted to be there, and had what it took to be there and advance thru the ranks, or you didn't. I feel very fortunate to have been apart of that, and look back on those years very fondly. It definitely gave me a very solid foundation to start with when I started MMA.

    • @neutrino78x
      @neutrino78x 9 месяцев назад

      @@mattjack3983
      "I trained at a Dojo for a long time that didn't have any qualms at all with full contact training. Black eyes, busted iips, bloody noses were very common. Like, pretty much every night. "
      I feel like you're not really learning the essence of martial arts doing that. Might as well do western combat sports, at that point. A big part of real martial arts is spiritual and intellectual advancement.

    • @freetrade8830
      @freetrade8830 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@mattjack3983Good way to scare new people away from karate...

  • @lorddeathspit1124
    @lorddeathspit1124 2 года назад +9

    I’m often critical of traditional martial arts but this guy is athletic and has extremely fluid movement. Impressive.

    • @samuraiz3746
      @samuraiz3746 10 месяцев назад +4

      But kyokushin isnt a traditional martial art.
      Just because they wear a dogi when training doesnt make em a traditional martial art.

    • @GodOfTheInternets
      @GodOfTheInternets 9 месяцев назад +4

      Kyukoshin is from the 1950s. Not that old.

    • @neutrino78x
      @neutrino78x 9 месяцев назад

      it's the artist, not the art, man.

    • @BhaalSakh
      @BhaalSakh 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@neutrino78x It's definitely the art. There's a reason why taekwondo fighters all get their asses kicked by any competent fighters. Martial arts have movesets and techniques that are better than others for actual fighting. Kyokushin is one of the best martials for kicking ass.

    • @neutrino78x
      @neutrino78x 9 месяцев назад

      @@BhaalSakh
      "It's definitely the art."
      Then your age is definitely under 30 lmao.
      "There's a reason why taekwondo fighters all get their asses kicked by any competent fighters. "
      Look up Chung Le.

  • @fcbfreviews
    @fcbfreviews 2 года назад +15

    It’s in kyokushin rules so it’s not really fair can’t use face punches

    • @fcbfreviews
      @fcbfreviews 2 года назад +3

      And no grappling since it’s not kyokushin what if the mma guys a grappler not striker

    • @SaikouKarate
      @SaikouKarate  2 года назад +10

      Of course it’s not fair. There’s no totally fair ruleset for two different martial arts stylists to fight.

    • @SaikouKarate
      @SaikouKarate  2 года назад +12

      @@Geburah82 MMA isn't fair or equal.
      As a sport it has factors that alter the strategy,
      It's fought with handwraps and gloves that fundamentally changes the dynamic of punching and punch defense. Without it you would see different guards, open-hand strikes to the face, different approaches to striking.
      It's also fought in a very specific type of arena that creates a very large focus on certain grappling strategies, as compared to an open mat or anything else.
      Soft mats in general create a very distorted view of grappling also. The focus on submission grappling is extremely skewed from the limited importance it has in reality.
      Regardless, throwing in specialists from various styles to fight each other really doesn't prove much. Throw in a boxer vs a Thai boxer and he will get his legs kicked out, sure. It still doesn't take away the unique skillset and value of boxing as a martial art.

    • @karatearmchairhistorian9825
      @karatearmchairhistorian9825 2 года назад +2

      @@Geburah82 Not at all. MMA rules are actually pretty hampering for martial artists who are trained in self defense arts that use strikes or attacks that are banned in the MMA. MMA only shows who is good at MMA under its rules and in its conditions (an "octagon", referee, timed rounds etc. , nothing else.

    • @SaikouKarate
      @SaikouKarate  2 года назад +7

      @@Geburah82 When you have UFC top fighters and champions getting knocked out by drunks at random bars maybe you need to have a little think about the difference between reality and a controlled sanctioned MMA bout.

  • @Gawain_Phoenix
    @Gawain_Phoenix 2 года назад

    Both of them being so respectful each other.

  • @raymondrocco8607
    @raymondrocco8607 2 месяца назад +2

    That Teacher would lose badly in a MMA Cage !! MMA Is another world !

  • @jdt1221a
    @jdt1221a 2 года назад +9

    Very nice kicks and amazing control. Looks like a true master to me. I am inspired🥋🙏

  • @cesaralvesdemoraes3187
    @cesaralvesdemoraes3187 2 года назад +3

    I love how much fun he's having with this

  • @jamesthaxton5553
    @jamesthaxton5553 10 дней назад +1

    Love this video!

  • @CorporaMedicina
    @CorporaMedicina 2 года назад +2

    The title should be "Human punching bag vs Kyokushin Master"

  • @Andrewcch74
    @Andrewcch74 2 года назад +14

    That is the culture in martial arts world, usually when you spar with the masters, it doesn't look good for the master if they got beaten so the juniors always don't go all out in the situation like this. This is called respect.

  • @hurkjinyo
    @hurkjinyo 2 года назад +7

    This guy in Taiwan issued his black belt 2 Dan by himself in two years, and then became a 5 Dan in the third year. Transferred to Nakamura Dojo to become 6 Dans.

    • @chrisgrudge6964
      @chrisgrudge6964 2 года назад

      He’s based in taiwan? Do you know where?

    • @hurkjinyo
      @hurkjinyo 2 года назад

      @@chrisgrudge6964 He is in Pingtung, Taiwan
      is fake kyokushin master

    • @chrisgrudge6964
      @chrisgrudge6964 2 года назад +1

      @@hurkjinyo I see. You know his name? I’m in taiwan

    • @jyuangrace4502
      @jyuangrace4502 2 года назад +1

      His skills is bigger than his belt color. Awesome kicks. Forget about level of dan or some other things. His already good.

    • @hurkjinyo
      @hurkjinyo 2 года назад

      @@jyuangrace4502 Sure,but he is fake kyokushin

  • @freashty
    @freashty 15 дней назад

    The set up for the foot sweep mixup from that last bodyshot was actually insane

  • @aikikan
    @aikikan 2 года назад +1

    I will be glad to see this master to use this beautiful kicks in MMA arena.

  • @henriqueblackops
    @henriqueblackops 2 года назад +5

    As a MMA fighter I guarantee this guy doesn’t train MMA. 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri 2 года назад

      He only trains karate and pretends to be mma for sake of video. Even an amateur knows how to deal with those weak kicks.

    • @hmantc712
      @hmantc712 2 года назад

      this dude did train for like a year or two and have one amateur match under his belt but yeah you can tell he is not an elite mma fighter ruclips.net/video/nUoi7QVEPzU/видео.html

    • @combatsportsarchive7632
      @combatsportsarchive7632 Год назад

      You provided no evidence whatsover to prove that the MMA guy is a Karate practitioner, r-t-ard. That's not fact checking works. It's keyboard clowns like you making the MMA fanbase looks mindless.

  • @pbeinandoaraujo7092
    @pbeinandoaraujo7092 2 года назад +12

    Este sim, é um karateca de verdade!

  • @luciano609
    @luciano609 Месяц назад +2

    that guy is neither a fighter nor a bodybuilder lol

  • @pitbull142
    @pitbull142 Месяц назад +1

    The “MMA” fighter was clearly not experienced whatsoever.

  • @Potatodrumcrow
    @Potatodrumcrow 2 года назад +13

    I have a buddy that is a black belt in this style and when he trains Mma his striking is phenomenal. You’ve seen how Muay Thai Mma is mixed with a wider stance to move in an out and to sprawl on takedowns. He does the same with this style karate and it’s super lethal.

    • @rjamaio
      @rjamaio 3 месяца назад

      Absolutely, when you eliminate the rules of this style. martial arts is striking or wrestling, nothing else. I don't care what style it is.

  • @TheMartialMix
    @TheMartialMix 2 года назад +5

    We need more videos like this 😂

  • @bobbytheblade2550
    @bobbytheblade2550 27 дней назад +2

    I saw the bodybuilder, but where was the MMA fighter?

  • @Moodymongul
    @Moodymongul 11 дней назад

    Which angles will you be throwing kicks at?
    Kyokushin Karate Master:
    "Yes!"

  • @yetiking2057
    @yetiking2057 2 года назад +3

    Wonderful karate sparring. Inspiring.

  • @King-uh8zz
    @King-uh8zz 2 года назад +3

    He is like Jin Kazama. 💪👑👍

  • @Techpriest
    @Techpriest Месяц назад

    The heel kick to the head prior to the leg swipe is super interesting.

  • @michaeltrimble7680
    @michaeltrimble7680 2 года назад +2

    Kyokushin is one of my favorite forms of Karate. It’s karate, yeah, not everything is applicable in street or MMA fights, certainly not boxing, but the conditioning and rules make for a really cool, tough sport.

  • @Randoverse
    @Randoverse 24 дня назад +3

    How does this MMA fighter have no takedown skills? Could of easily done a double or single leg takedown. Ground game would have crushed this dude.

    • @eplanti
      @eplanti 7 дней назад +1

      looks like they were just playing around, some of the karate strikes were just dumb, leaving your leg up for a hook kick... ick

  • @oliverjameshall2288
    @oliverjameshall2288 2 года назад +3

    I remember briefly learning kykoshin as a child. Was great fun. Sadly I was more interested in watching night rider on TV than going to classes. Such a shame really.

  • @alantacher7145
    @alantacher7145 3 месяца назад +1

    Watches UFC once: "Yup, I'm ready"

  • @davidlakes5087
    @davidlakes5087 18 дней назад

    Today I learned that “Amateur MMA Fighter & Bodybuilder” is the same thing as “Target Dummy”

  • @Antimortem
    @Antimortem 2 года назад +3

    Good demonstration. Kyokushin application the best❤️👍

  • @walterhough5263
    @walterhough5263 2 года назад +3

    Wow I wish I knew about kyokushin 20 or 30 years ago.
    If I had ten or twenty years left to study. Very powerful straightforward martial art. Respect, Ous!!!
    Shorin Ryu practitioner
    Domo arigato

  • @SkankHuntForty2
    @SkankHuntForty2 3 месяца назад +1

    He's an amateur MMA fighter who learned how to do takedowns on zoom during Covid.

  • @tshepokotelo3162
    @tshepokotelo3162 Год назад +1

    The Kyokushin practitioner's reflexes are insane

  • @jorgealameda
    @jorgealameda 2 года назад +3

    Kyokushin is amazing!!!

  • @Docinaplane
    @Docinaplane 2 года назад +12

    Those kicks were very good, powerful and accurate. What I don't understand is why such a short match and why didn't the MMA man do anything. Forget pressure, etc. in time, the karate fighter would get tired with that much output.

    • @hypnoticskull6342
      @hypnoticskull6342 2 года назад +13

      It's because MMA is more careful, while stuff like Kyokushin is just, "Fuck it. I'm going in."

    • @JanKowalski-pe9lo
      @JanKowalski-pe9lo 2 года назад +14

      Because he couldn't punch in the face. I know dumb but thats the powerful tool. If you know you CAN be punched in the face you not going like this karate guy. I know what I'm talking about coz as a former kickboxer we used to train with kyokushin friends on their rules. Tough bastards they are but being able punch in the face changing things dramatically. Love those times :).

    • @Docinaplane
      @Docinaplane 2 года назад +1

      @@JanKowalski-pe9lo My teacher's teacher was promoted to black belt by Mas Oyama :-)

    • @JanKowalski-pe9lo
      @JanKowalski-pe9lo 2 года назад +2

      @@Docinaplane Yeah that`s a pretty clean lineage. Lucky you ;)

    • @Docinaplane
      @Docinaplane 2 года назад +1

      @@JanKowalski-pe9lo Thank you! He changed my martial arts life for the better. I'm not as good as my teacher, but I do the best I can. Best!

  • @Tonguinho
    @Tonguinho 2 года назад

    My man hit him with the entire arsenal of kicks from the sacred book

  • @realsoulenginecinematic375
    @realsoulenginecinematic375 2 года назад +1

    I really like this video, very insightful and awesome

  • @danielqu9926
    @danielqu9926 10 месяцев назад +19

    If that guy is an Amateur MMA fighter then I am a professional MMA fighter

    • @frfx4eva
      @frfx4eva Месяц назад

      FR

    • @turbotrup96
      @turbotrup96 14 дней назад

      Dude was under flurry of kicks and you think you'd do better than him?

  • @chriswhite318
    @chriswhite318 Месяц назад +2

    A good wrestler would've had that dude on his back within seconds.

  • @alterstassfurter5743
    @alterstassfurter5743 2 года назад

    finally both of the fighters were smiling at the end !

  • @EPFForsyth
    @EPFForsyth 2 месяца назад +3

    Utter BS....He would get crushed in a fight...Point fighting is not fighting.

  • @pupilmonk
    @pupilmonk 2 года назад +13

    Such incredible speed and flexibility for someone who looks on the heavy set side very impressive demonstration could do well in a place like Glory or even the UFC if he learned grappling to go along with his striking skills

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri 2 года назад +2

      It just looks impressive because his opponent refused to do anything than run away.

    • @ScorpionSuerte
      @ScorpionSuerte 2 года назад

      He's running forward with his head totally exposed

    • @combatsportsarchive7632
      @combatsportsarchive7632 Год назад

      @@Tespri Too bad you have not seen the good examples like the fight between Lechi Kurbanov and Travis Fulton.

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri Год назад

      @@combatsportsarchive7632 bunch of no names. Just because one karate guy once wins, it doesn't make it viable martial art. Just as some one can win once with aikido as well. What matters is high level performance and stable winning rate. Karate sucks in all of these and karate kids are laughed to the hospital if they even dare to try street fight. You know.. place where punching to the head is legal ;)

    • @ordinaryavgguy
      @ordinaryavgguy 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@TespriLaughing at the comments saying this guy would last in Glory or the UFC. He'd look like Fred Ettish in there.

  • @-CrampedStyle-
    @-CrampedStyle- 2 года назад +2

    Goddamn, that was the first time I felt scared watching a karate fighter. I think he would have hit me with every one of those kicks.

  • @oooBASTIooo
    @oooBASTIooo Месяц назад +1

    They didn't spar under MMA rules though, but under Kyokushin rules. So it really doesn't matter if the other guy is a trained MMA fighter, if he cannot use the majority of his skills.

  • @MrHitotsumusha
    @MrHitotsumusha 2 года назад +6

    Technically speaking the Kyokushin fighter is a Sensei or maybe a Shihan. Not a master in technical terms. But he could be considered a master of his own branch(s). If you look on the belt he has maybe 6 stripes and that's still a highly respectable rank. I love his kicking technique and how he's controlling it by pulling back his kicks so he doesn't hurt the other guy. Kyokushin is full contact fighting and so many great fighters comes from Kyokushin. Very impressive display. I wouldn't last 5 seconds with him.

  • @yetiking2057
    @yetiking2057 2 года назад +11

    He might have taken less damage going forward, that masters kicks where epic. That being said I can understand wanting to back up from that!

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri 2 года назад +2

      Nah, it just means that guy isn't MMA fighter or even experienced fighter. Heck it's also sign of low IQ. You can completely eliminate kicks impact by closing in. Since all the momentum is near the feet, thus you can eliminate the impact's strenght by closing in and then grapple the leg that was used to kick and make a take down.
      Simply put this video is actually 2 karate practitioners making propaganda for karate. There is a reason why Karate never wins any tournaments.

    • @doromizu.
      @doromizu. 2 года назад

      Mate its in the title, its a kyokushin sparring. Tf you talking about take downs for lol

    • @yetiking2057
      @yetiking2057 2 года назад

      @@doromizu. Talking about going closer to cut off kicking and punching power. I felt he was basically at a perfect range for his opponent to deliver powerful kicks. I mean either way he looked like he was in for it!

    • @combatsportsarchive7632
      @combatsportsarchive7632 Год назад

      @@Tespri Some of them did win titles in early MMA such as the ones who participated in a MMA event called "All Nihon Combat Sports Championship" (1995). The footage for that MMA tournament is already available on this website. Just search a video titled "Full Contact Karate in Early MMA" to find it. That venue also brought other fighters from modern combat sports such as Combat Sambo and Shooto.

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri Год назад

      @@combatsportsarchive7632 Early? So basically with some bs karate rules. Since clearly now all karate kids get demolished.

  • @meandyou2046
    @meandyou2046 2 года назад

    I don't subscribe to many RUclips channels and those that I have are by clicking subscribe by accident.
    This one was deliberate. This video is superb.

  • @andreamorrione
    @andreamorrione 3 месяца назад +1

    Now we want to see vs an aggressive amateur... Hands up master

  • @seraphinaaizen6278
    @seraphinaaizen6278 2 года назад +8

    Smothered. There's a BIG difference in skill level and experience here (I don't think the MMA guy has a lot of experience getting hit, to be honest. He seemed to get rattled despite the karateka taking is easy on him).
    I've got a lot of time for karate. Although when I studied karate it was essentially a belt factory (bad dojo), when properly taught karate is an extremely functional and effective martial art. It's no joke.

    • @goldehh1069
      @goldehh1069 2 года назад

      nice pfp who is that?

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri 2 года назад

      So functional that they never win mma

    • @seraphinaaizen6278
      @seraphinaaizen6278 2 года назад

      @@Tespri What the heck are you talking about? There are several extremely successful karate fighters in MMA.
      Is it too much to ask that you fact check what you're about to say before you open your mouth and prove that you don't know anything whatsoever what you're talking about?

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri 2 года назад

      @@seraphinaaizen6278 name one that uses only karate moves

    • @seraphinaaizen6278
      @seraphinaaizen6278 2 года назад

      @@Tespri .....Okay, sit down kid.
      Nobody in MMA uses ONLY karate, just like nobody in the MMA uses ONLY kickboxing. It's called "mixed martial arts" for a reason. There's no single martial art in existence that offers the complete skillset that a fighter is going to need inside an MMA environment.
      There are fighters who use a kickboxing base. There are fighters who use a karate base. But all these fighters will need to cross-train in other styles in order to make sure their skillset is filled out.
      Every single question you are asking at this point makes it abundantly clear that you don't know what the heck you're talking about. I would suggest, before you put your spindly little fingers back on the keyboard and ask another one, that you decide if this is the hill you want to die on or if you've done enough trolling for one day.

  • @sigendymion
    @sigendymion 2 года назад +6

    20 years ago I sparred against a kyokushin student.
    I got into a boxing stance, moved in, threw a jab, and he put his fingers in my right eye then kicked my stomach faster than I could move.
    A few months later I started karate, and never made that mistake again.
    A decade after that, ten years ago, I got my black belt, but truly.. it's not about the belt but the progress of learning

  • @Dan.50
    @Dan.50 2 года назад

    Those kicks were otherworldly!

  • @stufoo
    @stufoo 2 дня назад

    those kicks were truly impressive

  • @san2476
    @san2476 2 года назад +4

    One day sensei is gonna learn to keep his hand up in a hard way

    • @nicklubrino2606
      @nicklubrino2606 2 года назад

      The Karate guy was kicking at will, with his hands down, because he knows he’s not getting punched in the face. Against a boxer, with his hands down, it’s unrealistic to last more than 5 seconds.

    • @giriprasadkotte9876
      @giriprasadkotte9876 2 года назад

      @@nicklubrino2606
      Kyokushin fighters are famous for taking blows to the face

    • @mandelamohammad904
      @mandelamohammad904 2 года назад

      @@giriprasadkotte9876 no they are not

    • @nicklubrino2606
      @nicklubrino2606 2 года назад +1

      @@giriprasadkotte9876 Famous for taking blows to the face? How can that be? I thought Kyokushin rules doesn’t allow punching to the face.

    • @giriprasadkotte9876
      @giriprasadkotte9876 2 года назад

      @@nicklubrino2606
      Yes. They aren't well prepared for face punches.

  • @nikeimizhongtomasch1880
    @nikeimizhongtomasch1880 2 года назад +3

    How about some MMA rules for round 2?

  • @stlrockn
    @stlrockn 3 месяца назад

    The karateka has some serious kicking skills and he was showing control as well. He was holding back.

  • @ClydeDerrick
    @ClydeDerrick 2 года назад

    he just woke up, mma is not the ultimate. the look on his face at end CV is priceless

  • @zorioncosima7786
    @zorioncosima7786 2 года назад +4

    Kyokushin actually scary, they keep attacking and not backing up

    • @nicklubrino2606
      @nicklubrino2606 2 года назад

      The Karate guy was kicking at will, with his hands down, because he knows he’s not getting punched in the face. Against a boxer, with his hands down, it’s unrealistic to last more than 5 seconds.

  • @solarjudgement4575
    @solarjudgement4575 2 года назад +4

    Not impressed considering the mma fighter didn't even try to fight back. Pretty sure he would lose but still. The karate guy just threw a puch of kicks with his hands down like he is practicing or something.

    • @SaikouKarate
      @SaikouKarate  2 года назад +3

      He tried to kick him back, he was overwhelmed and focused on defence, which you or most people unused to that level of pressure would be also. Throwing strikes back means opening up your defence which in this kind of situation ends up with a shin to your jaw.

    • @AndreiH1605
      @AndreiH1605 2 года назад +2

      @@SaikouKarate "unused to that level of pressure" lmaooo any so-called MMA fighter who is not used to people doing their best to kick him in the face is not a real MMA fighter

    • @SaikouKarate
      @SaikouKarate  2 года назад +2

      @@AndreiH1605 List me 10 MMA fighters who kick half as good as this. You don’t seem to understand the skill of a specialist vs a rounded MMA fighter.

    • @scottphillips8117
      @scottphillips8117 2 года назад +1

      @@SaikouKarate Exactly so. That's high level kicking and the guy was outclassed, period. Would he do so well in an MMA ruleset with takedowns and groundfighting.... maybe but probably not. Even so he's clearly a superior martial artist

    • @gongfutaijimy
      @gongfutaijimy 2 года назад +2

      I think he could be fighting his reflex to punch the opponent in the face. That hesitation is enough for the Kyokushin guy to dominate.

  • @user-kz5jm8tn3w
    @user-kz5jm8tn3w 3 месяца назад +1

    damn he surprised hell outta me. this puts to death the notion that traditional arts do not work against mma.

  • @eyessmile6173
    @eyessmile6173 2 года назад

    This is like getting a football player and a basketball player and then saying ok lets play basketball

  • @LightDragon666
    @LightDragon666 10 дней назад +2

    Very nice attacks by mma fighter wow he definitely didn't let the karate guy win on deliberately:)

  • @stjfv01
    @stjfv01 2 года назад +1

    This guy moves like a video character 😅 and looks like a casual dude. His spin kick was so smooth and was throwing with good pace but just touching. ✊🏽cool stuff

  • @manojkandampully8521
    @manojkandampully8521 2 года назад

    One of most beautiful & powerful fight i have ever seen.. Respect both of you.. Oss!!👊🥋

  • @georgeworthmore
    @georgeworthmore 2 месяца назад

    The first spin kick said it all.

  • @BreezeLeg-mo4jh
    @BreezeLeg-mo4jh Месяц назад

    I love how he smiles while delivering insane organ trauma to his friend

  • @McCracken216
    @McCracken216 2 месяца назад +2

    By amateur you must mean 3 weeks of training.

  • @marcosadcc
    @marcosadcc 3 месяца назад

    He's insanely good
    Kicks from literally everywhere

  • @higherpurpose1212
    @higherpurpose1212 Год назад +1

    The solar plexus punch in the end was a great touch to end the fight, lol. This kyokushin sensei is so impressive! Wonder how young he started training?

  • @THEOneAndOnlyDOCTORofHUMANICS
    @THEOneAndOnlyDOCTORofHUMANICS 3 месяца назад +1

    Was the other not allowed to fight back?!?
    Sensei-Marty.

  • @strangeone7198
    @strangeone7198 5 месяцев назад +1

    Easy to do karate when the other person isnt trying to hit back lol

  • @twills_8452
    @twills_8452 2 года назад

    That crescent kick is nuts

  • @jamescoward110
    @jamescoward110 2 года назад +1

    Nice kicks!!🙌👏