Depends on your use case. Perfectly fine for daily road driving. IF you're planning to track the car, factory brakes are still crap. At the very least you'll want higher performing DOT fluid (MOTUL RBF600) and pads. Serious drivers will opt for larger calipers and rotors. (Yes mechanical!)
@@hyp36rmax It comes stock with the track package pads now. I never had any issues on my track days with those pads. Might need fluid though. It already has bi metal rotors and 4 piston calipers. It really already is a beefcake.
@@CharlesCo918 Yea, brake cooling is important. Def fluid, I wouldn't skip on that. Calipers are the same 4-pot Brembo from the outgoing model. I think two variations of the same caliper. Are the pads semi-metalic? not sure what compound Tesla's Track Package is. I assume yes, unless they went full send with full metalic.
Would love an idea of ride quality difference after the mild drop. Interested in a potential mild drop to go with your full body kit so also concerned over daily impact of both the new front splitter and the mild drop option in terms of driveway clearances. To clarify I suppose I'll wait till you add the body kit on at a later time, but would love to see the kit on a stock height, mild spring and heavy spring and how day-able it would be?
You didnt confirm how the car rode with the mild springs vs stock ? How much will it change ride comfort??? I’m sure that’s what most people are concerned with between your spring lines. Please comment on how it felt on bumps and city roads
@@hyp36rmaxthis has caveats. In the previous year Model 3s, the softer mild dual rate springs made the ride bumpier unless you also added the UP dampers as well, due to reducing the travel length of the spring while having the original travel length on the stock damper.
@@hyp36rmax A proper review would have been to take some time to film the test drive and talk about how it rides during the test drive and give proper feedback to assure customers what they can expect if they buy and install these springs. Not just a quick statement saying it rides fine. As a customer I don’t want to invest that much money and time just to find out their statement wasn’t accurate.
Looks as if there is a sort of strategy for those wanting to go Coilovers. Short term solution probably needs a way to fool the system from thinking factory solenoids are still active when disconnected. Long term end goal is to have a coilover OEM (Such as KW DDC) and Tesla (Give access to 3rd party to interface dampening settings). This will be exciting.
Would love to see you test how performance varies versus state of charge. According to videos, we have seen minimal impact below 50%, similar to Plaid, curious to see the curve if/when it begins to taper off.
On the previous gen M3 you didn't need to remove the whole arm to get the suspension out at the front - using a thin walled 13mm socket (or grinding down a standard 13mm socket as I did), you can access the 3 top mounting nuts through the holes. This gen M3 looks similar/ the same.
how is the ride comfort affected by sway bars? I've the springs on my car, they made it smoother over smaller imperfections. curious how stiffer swaybars will affect daily driving
Sounds like you guys will need to make a fake (dummy) adaptive suspension plugin module that simulates that the OE shocks are still attached. Then you can add coilovers.
I noticed that your website has been updated to show that the drop is now 0.70" for all model 3s, current and previous gen alike. I'm assuming these springs ended up settling after publishing these ride heights in these videos?
I am missing information on the alignment after the lowering of the car. On the previous performance you could not adjust your way out of it with out additional hardware?
Judging by my experience this is almost impossible unless you use a camber kit - there's not much play in the stock arms to get camber right once you lower in the M3.
Lowering kit? The standard Highland feels extremely low already and the Performance variant is lower than std. A lowered Performance would be un-usable to me. I am already connecting with steep curbs / ramps as it is. Try to measure ground clearance just in front and behind the wheels. I bet you only have 5cm.
Can I replace the 20-inch wheels on the Highland M3P (both front and rear) with 19-inch Nova wheels (235/40 R19)? Will it interfere with the brake caliper or affect the functionality of the adaptive suspension?
With the new springs... I think the ride will be too firm, too accurate, with the sway bar sizing added also. Maybe one change at a time to Verify. Can't wait to see some tire shredding, in the turns at a full drift, and high speed at full flight, with all wheels off the pavement! Yea!
@@dporrasxtremeLS3do u know for sure? Will the regular long range suspension fit or you mean both that and the performance? I won't be adjustable right?
@@dyhppyx I have not worked on any Tesla. I do know that Tesla keeps things Very simple. Interchangeability is part of who Tesla is. Many suspension parts will work on Many years of model Y with the Model 3.
I've learned that this new Performance Model 3 needs no mechanical modifications whatsoever, but this video and Luke are awesome!
Depends on your use case. Perfectly fine for daily road driving. IF you're planning to track the car, factory brakes are still crap. At the very least you'll want higher performing DOT fluid (MOTUL RBF600) and pads. Serious drivers will opt for larger calipers and rotors. (Yes mechanical!)
@@hyp36rmax It comes stock with the track package pads now. I never had any issues on my track days with those pads. Might need fluid though. It already has bi metal rotors and 4 piston calipers. It really already is a beefcake.
@@CharlesCo918 Are the new brakes still Brembo?
@@aussie2uGA Yes
@@CharlesCo918 Yea, brake cooling is important. Def fluid, I wouldn't skip on that. Calipers are the same 4-pot Brembo from the outgoing model. I think two variations of the same caliper. Are the pads semi-metalic? not sure what compound Tesla's Track Package is. I assume yes, unless they went full send with full metalic.
I love to see these younger guys doing great work on cars.
C’mon Unplugged, you seriously just tested if these parts fit but didnt tell us if it changed the ride quality! 🤷🏽♂️
Whats the ride quality of the low springs with the active dampers? Do the active dampers adjust automatically to the lowered height?
Also looking for this reply. how it rides with the low springs is the adaptive settings still noticeable?
Would love an idea of ride quality difference after the mild drop. Interested in a potential mild drop to go with your full body kit so also concerned over daily impact of both the new front splitter and the mild drop option in terms of driveway clearances. To clarify I suppose I'll wait till you add the body kit on at a later time, but would love to see the kit on a stock height, mild spring and heavy spring and how day-able it would be?
You didnt confirm how the car rode with the mild springs vs stock ? How much will it change ride comfort??? I’m sure that’s what most people are concerned with between your spring lines. Please comment on how it felt on bumps and city roads
Yes!
They did. Dual rate springs allows for more aggressive dampening in hard cornering while retaining stock like comfort during milder daily driving.
@@hyp36rmaxAnd what if the "soft" part of the spring is harder than the spring. Or the hard part of the dual rate is a lot harder.
@@hyp36rmaxthis has caveats. In the previous year Model 3s, the softer mild dual rate springs made the ride bumpier unless you also added the UP dampers as well, due to reducing the travel length of the spring while having the original travel length on the stock damper.
@@hyp36rmax A proper review would have been to take some time to film the test drive and talk about how it rides during the test drive and give proper feedback to assure customers what they can expect if they buy and install these springs. Not just a quick statement saying it rides fine. As a customer I don’t want to invest that much money and time just to find out their statement wasn’t accurate.
Looks as if there is a sort of strategy for those wanting to go Coilovers. Short term solution probably needs a way to fool the system from thinking factory solenoids are still active when disconnected. Long term end goal is to have a coilover OEM (Such as KW DDC) and Tesla (Give access to 3rd party to interface dampening settings). This will be exciting.
Oh Yea!!!
That would be the ideal scenario. Maybe Tesla offers a track suspension upgrade down the line? Seems unlikely but let’s see!
Exactly what validation did you do? Validated that it lowered the car LOL?
Would love to see you test how performance varies versus state of charge. According to videos, we have seen minimal impact below 50%, similar to Plaid, curious to see the curve if/when it begins to taper off.
On the previous gen M3 you didn't need to remove the whole arm to get the suspension out at the front - using a thin walled 13mm socket (or grinding down a standard 13mm socket as I did), you can access the 3 top mounting nuts through the holes. This gen M3 looks similar/ the same.
I just Love the interchangeability! Tesla 5 Stars!!!
How much are you reducing the life of the OEM struts using any of these springs?
how is the ride comfort affected by sway bars? I've the springs on my car, they made it smoother over smaller imperfections. curious how stiffer swaybars will affect daily driving
But how did it drive with the new parts? This video only seems to validate that the parts fit, not how they perform
My thoughts exactly! 🤦♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
I think they said they are taking it to a track soon to validate the mods.
Sounds like you guys will need to make a fake (dummy) adaptive suspension plugin module that simulates that the OE shocks are still attached. Then you can add coilovers.
That's probably the way to go. Choice point for some folks. I'd sacrifice adaptive dampening for a more solid suspension to my driving style 100%.
Would be nice to test just adding the sway bars.
Very cool! Might need this for my upcoming track day :)
I noticed that your website has been updated to show that the drop is now 0.70" for all model 3s, current and previous gen alike. I'm assuming these springs ended up settling after publishing these ride heights in these videos?
Looking good! Would a square set-up on the tires be better on track? What are the pros and cons of the different setups?
Staggered setup with wider rears means way better power delivery, especially since the new Performance is rear biased
I am missing information on the alignment after the lowering of the car. On the previous performance you could not adjust your way out of it with out additional hardware?
i gotta see a vid of the new aero kit on a m3p highland, want to see before i buy it lol
100th LIKE! Btw, Black on Black is amazing. That's what I have on order.
With, with a full front windshield light tint!
What’s the effect on the lower control arms between the standard springs and the lowered ones?
How about a 0.5" drop in front and 1" in in back to make it look more equal
A video light or two would be helpful!
Can you do lowering links for the highland performance?
Are you able to align the wheels back to stock with the low springs?
Judging by my experience this is almost impossible unless you use a camber kit - there's not much play in the stock arms to get camber right once you lower in the M3.
Absolutely not!
@@YTuberosity Then Make these bushings!
Lowering kit? The standard Highland feels extremely low already and the Performance variant is lower than std. A lowered Performance would be un-usable to me. I am already connecting with steep curbs / ramps as it is. Try to measure ground clearance just in front and behind the wheels. I bet you only have 5cm.
I was wondering if 255 35 20 /295 30 20 tires will fitt on the Oem rim's without any rubbing 🤔🙄
when are you going to bring out an adaptive coilover kit
What is the ground clearance with the first springs?
Can I replace the 20-inch wheels on the Highland M3P (both front and rear) with 19-inch Nova wheels (235/40 R19)? Will it interfere with the brake caliper or affect the functionality of the adaptive suspension?
What is the name of those ramps you used to get car high enough for the lift/pucks?
I missed that. I need these! Add a Link for these. Thanks!
The ramps are made by Race Ramps….but I would still like to know which one they are using. There are several to choose from 😉
Do you think it would be a good idea to install sway bars on the Model 3 SR, Which one do you recommend?
do you have spacers for the model 3 performance 2024?
With the new springs... I think the ride will be too firm, too accurate, with the sway bar sizing added also. Maybe one change at a time to Verify. Can't wait to see some tire shredding, in the turns at a full drift, and high speed at full flight, with all wheels off the pavement! Yea!
All that r&d done by the oem thrown into the bin for a spring on stock shocks lowering vanity job. lol. Zero alignment data. lol. Nice.
Alignment data coming soon. Be sure to subscribe!
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@@UnpluggedPerformanceTesla Subscribed!!! Very exciting!
Does the highland suspension fit on to the older model 3 performance?
Tesla Interchangeability! YES!
@@dporrasxtremeLS3do u know for sure? Will the regular long range suspension fit or you mean both that and the performance? I won't be adjustable right?
@@dyhppyx I have not worked on any Tesla. I do know that Tesla keeps things Very simple. Interchangeability is part of who Tesla is. Many suspension parts will work on Many years of model Y with the Model 3.
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Stupid place to put the tow hook.
So, when you are in the middle of nowhere you have to take apart the frunk to get it. Why!
It's the opposite of how you described the spring rate
Very nice!
So this was basically completely pointless 🙂
NO!
this car badly needs spacers
New model 3 performance is legit!!!! 🔥🔥
Does this affect anything with the factory adaptive suspension feature?
Great video. I wish you guys were close to me. Is the new Model 3 performance really worth the upgrade?
Performance Never Goes Out of Style!