Honest Trailers Commentary - The Oscars (2019)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @fandomentertainment
    @fandomentertainment  5 лет назад +37

    Will you be watching the Academy Awards?
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    One: Speak up and join the conversation- we encourage respectful debate.
    Two: Respect your community- racism, misogyny, homophobia and hate speech aren’t tolerated.
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  • @actioncaterer6636
    @actioncaterer6636 5 лет назад +243

    Is it weird that I prefer watching the commentaries instead of the trailer? The Trailer interspersed with the guys more in depth/jokey comments is more enjoyable for me.

    • @ArtAlv0613
      @ArtAlv0613 5 лет назад +6

      Agreed!

    • @jbearclowater
      @jbearclowater 5 лет назад +6

      Agreed!

    • @AWSVids
      @AWSVids 5 лет назад +16

      Yeah, the trailer is just the appetizer for the commentary.

    • @CannonRaw
      @CannonRaw 5 лет назад +4

      @@AWSVids you could it's a trailer for the commentary.

    • @Adrian-zd4cs
      @Adrian-zd4cs 5 лет назад +2

      Same!

  • @KazekageOfTheFunk
    @KazekageOfTheFunk 5 лет назад +182

    Oscars should just commission Screen Junkies to host, problem solved.

    • @ForgottenLove896
      @ForgottenLove896 5 лет назад +19

      I say instead of the oscar head speak we have dan come on stage and rant....love his rants so very much

    • @andrewfeistner3384
      @andrewfeistner3384 5 лет назад +11

      @@ForgottenLove896 Just have him up there to insult them over their snubs in each category

    • @johanabartuskova3565
      @johanabartuskova3565 5 лет назад +1

      @@andrewfeistner3384 Oscar for Toni!!!!!

    • @ForgottenLove896
      @ForgottenLove896 5 лет назад

      @@andrewfeistner3384 im up for that!

    • @JJJameson.
      @JJJameson. 5 лет назад

      To be honest,they really made some stinkers along the years as well

  • @rhekman
    @rhekman 5 лет назад +127

    John C Reilly for Best Supporting Actor in an Honest Trailer

    • @stairway718
      @stairway718 5 лет назад +3

      And for Stan & Ollie

    • @munjee2
      @munjee2 5 лет назад +2

      *staring , he's in more mentions than any other actors

    • @kylebookout1789
      @kylebookout1789 5 лет назад

      This comment is what I was looking for. Yes!

  • @SeanTSC
    @SeanTSC 5 лет назад +49

    Spider-verse not having a Best Picture nomination is the big snub for me, especially since they didn't even fill out the last two slots. It's far and away the best animated film and deserves to be in more than just the Animation category. It's easily up there with any other movie out this year.

  • @braydenfitzsimmons6824
    @braydenfitzsimmons6824 5 лет назад +33

    11:43 Dan: "I would nominate 50 films over Bohemian Rhapsody". Challenge accepted
    1. Widows
    2. First Man
    3. If Beale Street Could Talk
    4. Can You Ever Forgive Me?
    5. Isle of Dogs
    6. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
    7. Eighth Grade
    8. The Hate U Give
    9. Love, Simon
    10. Crazy Rich Asians
    11. Paddington 2
    12. Creed II
    13. Burning
    14. Shoplifters
    15. Cold War
    16. Wont You Be My Neighbour
    17. Free Solo
    18. Ready Player One
    19. Mission: Impossible - Fallout
    20. A Quiet Place
    21. Hereditary
    22. Halloween
    23. Suspiria
    24. Mandy
    25. Searching
    26. Tully
    27. Private Life
    28. Buster Scruggs
    29. Annihilation
    30. Blockers
    31. Game Night
    32. Collette
    33. Mary Poppins Returns
    34. Boy Erased
    35. The Miseducation of Cameron Post
    36. First Reformed
    37. Sorry to Bother You
    38. The Death of Stalin
    39. Mary Queen of Scots
    40. You Were Never Really Here
    41. Leave No Trace
    42. The Happy Prince
    43. The Rider
    44. RBG
    45. Incredibles II
    46. Thoroughbreds
    47. Minding the Gap
    48. Support the Girls
    49. The Tale
    50. A Simple Favour

    • @1997residente
      @1997residente 5 лет назад +2

      Boy I fucking love "Cold War". I keep telling to myself "Dear oscars, don't you think europe and other countries care about "20 minutes standing ovation in cannes Cold War" more than "60% in RT Dick Fucking Chaney" film?

    • @shitpostheavy
      @shitpostheavy 5 лет назад +2

      Nice list

    • @Kris_AB
      @Kris_AB 5 лет назад +4

      Fantastic list. The only film I wouldn't nominate over Bohemian Rhapsody is Ready Player One. Kinda meh on that one.

    • @daniellemhall1358
      @daniellemhall1358 5 лет назад +2

      Solid list.

  • @cariboubearmalachy1174
    @cariboubearmalachy1174 5 лет назад +23

    During the Cesars in France (the French Oscars) they actually filmed and edited together a short film during the ceremony itself using quick shots of the famous French actors in the audience. It was quite funny.

  • @TheSharbear14
    @TheSharbear14 5 лет назад +45

    Based off of what Rami Malek has said in interviews, the Live AID performance was the very first thing they shot, so it's probably safe to say that Bryan Singer actually did that part, and not Dexter Fletcher.

    • @mk6rfc1
      @mk6rfc1 5 лет назад +13

      based on joe's comments, it could have been the AD as even before singer was fired apparentely there was times he didnt even show up (rumoured to have happen on apocalypse as well)

  • @21pilotstillidie58
    @21pilotstillidie58 5 лет назад +97

    Please tell me SJU will be doing a live stream of the oscars. I want to watch it so damn bad.

    • @heatherpayne1995
      @heatherpayne1995 5 лет назад +28

      The live stream of the La la Land / Moonlight debacle was one of the most entertaining things they've ever done.

    • @McNeej
      @McNeej 5 лет назад +8

      Right?! I'll watch that, before i watch the actual Oscars.

    • @eshna2012
      @eshna2012 5 лет назад +2

      The past two years it has been fantastic - totally agree, hope they do one this year too! 🤞

    • @21pilotstillidie58
      @21pilotstillidie58 5 лет назад +2

      @@eshna2012 i thought they didn't do one last year?

    • @21pilotstillidie58
      @21pilotstillidie58 5 лет назад

      @@McNeej completely agree

  • @FestArc
    @FestArc 5 лет назад +12

    I'm one of the people who is actually sad Leo won an award because I miss those Leo hasn't won an Oscar memes. They were wonderful.

  • @huntcd2012
    @huntcd2012 5 лет назад +42

    I think what bugs me the most about some of the Black Panther backlash is when people say it was only nominated because it had an all Black cast. It really devalues the movie and the legit hard work and effort present from Ryan Coogler and company along with the acting from said black cast.
    The poor CGI from the climax doesn’t reflect the whole movie before anyone says that. Even then, we still got a beautiful moment after said climax is over.

    • @sony8591
      @sony8591 5 лет назад +6

      What I don't understand is how does the Oscar jury or whatever you call it thinks Black Panther is great. I personally think it is but if you look at it, BP isn't nominated in any of the other major categories yet happens to be the best picture. I mean if you think the film doesn't have great acting, or directing or screenplay or cinematography or editing them how do they find it a great film. The answer is what it represents. And that's the problem. Most people think that it got nomination because of what it represents and not because the academy thought any aspects regarding how a movie is created is great because they clearly didn't according to the nominations it received in all major categories. That's the problem most people in offence have I think.

    • @braydenfitzsimmons6824
      @braydenfitzsimmons6824 5 лет назад +2

      Gayatri Lavanya more than 5% of the voting members had it as their #1 on the ballots. It’s not that complicated

    • @sony8591
      @sony8591 5 лет назад +5

      @@braydenfitzsimmons6824 Buy why??? That's the problem. Give a reason. Every other movie has gotten nominations in at least one major category, supporting it's claim. But BP hasn't. The most surprising one for me was adaptive screenplay. According to me, if they had given that to BP and then also nominated it for Best picture then this backlash would have been far less. Academy would have a reason. They can easily say the they thought the overall movie was great and the screenplay was soo good that they thought it deserved Best Picture. Easy. But they haven't given any reason. That's my problem.

    • @jotainfilms
      @jotainfilms 5 лет назад

      Okay but black panther is still like a 6/10

  • @vancelambert4680
    @vancelambert4680 5 лет назад +18

    I think the biggest Oscar snubs this year were 8th Grade and Sorry To Bother You.

    • @PanAndScanBuddy
      @PanAndScanBuddy 5 лет назад +2

      Yes! Eighth Grade is way closer to a real teenager than any movie ever.

    • @1269Hammerhead
      @1269Hammerhead 5 лет назад +1

      and Hereditary for Toni Collette!

  • @christophergarrett7082
    @christophergarrett7082 5 лет назад +22

    This Oscar's feels like one huge circus

  • @lizodonnell9436
    @lizodonnell9436 5 лет назад +14

    Omg the Black Panther trailer was perfection. Especially the “I personally liked Infinity War better” line. Just 💯/💯.

  • @ymagier3d
    @ymagier3d 5 лет назад +20

    The end of blackklansman was good because beeing french I did not know this happens in America, today.

  • @faureamour
    @faureamour 5 лет назад +3

    This was great! You guys put a lot of thought and effort into these shows. Also, kudos to the editor who found those great clips and cut everything together. And thanks to JTE for fixing the sound so I stopped feeling like I was going crazy!

  • @pigmiwarriorentertainment274
    @pigmiwarriorentertainment274 5 лет назад +16

    Is the sound like a plane taking off at 19:50 the sound of the removal men clearing out the office? Why does Dan keep checking his watch? Wow, who'd have thought the film about the KKK would potentially be the least controversial Best Picture winner. I got very emotional at the end of Blackkklansman so I was glad they included those clips, even though it was a big tonal shift & kind of a downer way to end a film with a lot of comedy.

  • @jonnnney
    @jonnnney 5 лет назад +40

    While I do love me some Dan rants, you guys gotta realize that the whole black panther thing isn't fans changing their minds. The thing is fandoms are fill with literally millions of people with different opinions and people that are angry about something yell a lot louder than people that are happy or content about something. The comic book fans that wanted an oscar nomination and the comic book fans that are angry that black panther got a nomination by and large aren't the same people. You're acting as if all comic book fans are 1 single entity that is randomly changing its mind. When in fact the people that wanted an oscar nomination stopped yelling cause they got what they wanted but then people that don't like black panther started yelling. So the volume of yelling didn't change much, but it wasn't hypocrisy.

    • @AWSVids
      @AWSVids 5 лет назад +8

      The "Oh, you wanted this, but NOW you're mad about this, etc..." argument is probably the most overused fallacy of an argument I see. People are ALWAYS making this stupid argument when they want to shut down a negative reaction, but have no good defense of the actual movie in question. It happens regarding Star Wars a lot. "Oh, you didn't like the prequels, now you don't like the sequels... you just can't be pleased!"... "Oh, you said Force Awakens was too much of the same, now The Last Jedi is too different! Star Wars fans (as a collective group that shares one brain) are impossible to please!"
      It's a lazy, cop-out argument that treats the world as black and white, as though if you dislike one extreme, you must like the opposite extreme. But no. Most people like things that are somewhere in the middle, and the factors upon which people judge how much they like something are wide and varied. You can't just put everything into two camps and force people to choose one, lest you be labelled "IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE!".
      If The Dark Knight HAD been nominated for Best Picture, you can bet all the people who didn't like it would be yelling, "IS IT REALLY THAT GOOD?!" They were yelling that at the time anyway. There's still people who feel the need to let everybody in the room know that they didn't like it. _"Y'know... without Health Ledger, the movie really isn't that good..."_

    • @Elsim
      @Elsim 5 лет назад +1

      @@AWSVids well said. it seems like they forget that most fans understand that there's more than just 2 ways to make a movie and it's not that black and white. Unfortunately it's just that the loudest voices happen to be those at the furthest ends of the spectrum that make it seem like that's how the whole fanbase thinks.

    • @EzraDair
      @EzraDair 5 лет назад +1

      jonnnney actually you're wrong. We are the same people. Just cause I asked you for something doesn't mean you do it wrong and tell me: WELL I DID IT AT LEAST ! no you didn't. You either do it RIGHT or don't bother telling me about it.
      When we asked for comic book movies to be nominated. We wanted THE RIGHT comic book movies to be nominated, not ANY comic book movie.
      I rest my case

    • @jonnnney
      @jonnnney 5 лет назад +1

      Ezra Daßer you rest your case? Really?

  • @christophergarrett7082
    @christophergarrett7082 5 лет назад +5

    Whoever did the mister roger voice crushed it.

  • @uncleanexecution
    @uncleanexecution 5 лет назад +44

    You know, if Dan hosted the Oscars, I might actually be interested in watching it...
    "And the Oscar for best picture goes to... ho boy, I don't think so... and the Oscar goes to, let's say, Black Panther. Yeah, Black Panther. Deal with it."

    • @GloriaDuranC
      @GloriaDuranC 5 лет назад +10

      Toni collette will win best actress

  • @Phelie315
    @Phelie315 5 лет назад +16

    The best picture thing is so weird, I have zero clue what's going to happen. I will really not be surprised about any of them winning tbh

  • @BustedHeart
    @BustedHeart 5 лет назад +6

    Once I heard Bohemian Rhapsody was going to sideline his sexuality I decided I wasn't going to see it unless it was really standout, and it wasn't. A Queen biopic would've been a great chance to do actually address AIDS from a different perspective and not just make a cool music video movie skirting around a serious issue that reverberates to this day.

  • @murrvvmurr
    @murrvvmurr 5 лет назад +12

    2:45 That's not funny. That's a really good idea! A reenactment of one scene from each best picture!live on stage. Genius

  • @dr.matthewhertert310
    @dr.matthewhertert310 5 лет назад +3

    John C. Reilly is also, as far as I’m aware, the only actor who had 3 films in theaters concurrently this year.

  • @raidenxthunder8151
    @raidenxthunder8151 5 лет назад +13

    I'm not that much of a fan of Black Panther. My thoughts. I think it deserved Best Director more so than Best Picture. That's how I felt with Wonder Woman. Doesn't deserves a Best Pic win but I can see it deserving Best Director and neither happened.

  • @thatrandomderp
    @thatrandomderp 5 лет назад +54

    Thank you Dan for admitting that you wouldn't have nominated Black Panther for Best Picture. To be honest, it's a pretty weak slate of nominations this year. I'd cut Bohemian Rhapsody and Vice off that list before cutting Black Panther. If anything other than Roma or The Favourite win I'll be very disappointed.

    • @telectronix1368
      @telectronix1368 5 лет назад +8

      A film that wasn't nominated for all the other major categories.....but was somehow also a "Best Picture" contender is unusual.

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 5 лет назад +5

      T Electronix and its scary blakc panther won best pic and the screen actors guilds..so you know white guilt is in full force.

    • @telectronix1368
      @telectronix1368 5 лет назад +8

      @@npcimknot958 'so you know white guilt is in force'
      I don't, really.

    • @halane4790
      @halane4790 5 лет назад +3

      I'd add Blackkksman to complete the trio. Roma, The Favourite and Blackkksman are imo the best of the nominated films.

    • @huntcd2012
      @huntcd2012 5 лет назад +7

      Green Book is the white guilt film

  • @kylebookout1789
    @kylebookout1789 5 лет назад +1

    One of your best trailers in awhile! You guys killed it. Keep em coming!

  • @jamcalx
    @jamcalx 5 лет назад +9

    Why didn't the Winter Soldier get nominated for best picture years ago?! I'm still salty about that.

  • @benabramowitz18
    @benabramowitz18 5 лет назад +8

    Fun fact: Every time these guys make an Honest Trailer for a Best Picture-nominated movie before the Oscars-or they hint that they will make one-that movie did not win Best Picture. So that means Black Panther and next week’s target will not win.
    (Also, that means one of these movies will be pushed off the schedule indefinitely:
    Ralph Breaks the Internet
    Elektra (2005)
    Fantastic Beasts 2)

  • @Superdm64
    @Superdm64 5 лет назад +15

    I'm happy to see precedent set for recognizing comic book movies, but Logan really should've been the one to set it. Patrick Stewart should've at least gotten a nod for supporting actor.

    • @SinMidnight
      @SinMidnight 5 лет назад +2

      Absolutely agree. I think Jackman should have gotten nominated as well. Hell, it should have even been nominated for Best Director. Logan, in my opinion, is a masterpiece.

    • @RabbiSteve
      @RabbiSteve 5 лет назад +2

      I also agree with this. It was a much better movie and also at least as good as the other movies nominated that year.

  • @elise4287
    @elise4287 5 лет назад +8

    It’s already disappointing because Eighth Grade was completely snubbed. And honestly would have loved to see Spider-Verse in the Best Picture category.... I can think of at least 2 that are in now that don’t need to be lol

  • @socialcommentary
    @socialcommentary 5 лет назад

    At around 19:50, Spencer's tapping on the desk makes an echo that sounds like a low-key, yet subtly epic in a "WE-WILL-ROCK-YOU"-esque rumble of thunder that could make anyone listening with headphones look out the window for flashes of lightning.

  • @darkhawk4863
    @darkhawk4863 5 лет назад +2

    Even though it doesn't exist, I already like your version of the Oscars with the live editing competition, being live hairstyled... Yeah, that would make the show so much better. I propose all Best Actress/Actor and Supporting nominees should have to accept the award in character, in accordance with this plan.

  • @ashleyguerrero2752
    @ashleyguerrero2752 5 лет назад +23

    How is Roma divisive??

    • @thatrandomderp
      @thatrandomderp 5 лет назад +8

      It's divisive to some film snobs because it's a Netflix production. I'm sure the Mexican perspective also triggers some close-minded people out there too.

    • @JCIce007
      @JCIce007 5 лет назад

      @@thatrandomderp there's criticism of the movie being from the perspective of a wealthy white guy rather than the actual maid.

    • @thatrandomderp
      @thatrandomderp 5 лет назад +4

      @@JCIce007 What wealthy white guy? There are no white main characters in the film. The director is Mexican too.

    • @Meb2x
      @Meb2x 5 лет назад +2

      The biggest complaint I’ve heard is that it’s too boring. I liked it, but I think it’s because I saw it in theaters. It’s not a good movie to premiere on Netflix.

    • @JCIce007
      @JCIce007 5 лет назад +1

      @@thatrandomderp in Mexico the upper class is historically mostly "white" with more Spanish ancestry than native.

  • @michaelleahy9265
    @michaelleahy9265 5 лет назад +5

    5:05 I don't just feel something about Vice I think it's one of the best films ever made. But I'm not an Academy voter

    • @JorgeCarnero_
      @JorgeCarnero_ 5 лет назад +3

      Same here, definitely in the minority of people that genuinely loved the movie.

  • @AWSVids
    @AWSVids 5 лет назад +5

    Black Panther is a good movie, but a lot of people feel that there's been better comic book movies that weren't nominated, so it's a legitimate question for them to ask, "Why is THIS one the first?" Whatever you think the answer to that question is, fine. But if someone postulates that PERHAPS the fact that there was so much attention paid by pop culture to the fact that it's the "first black superhero movie" (even though it isn't...), and that therefore the Academy (well known for having liberal leanings and often giving particular attention to movies that lean that way, sometimes even if they're not particularly good, like Crash) singling it out to nominate might have something to do with race relations more than it does with filmmaking... it doesn't mean they're racist and just hate Black Panther because they hate black people. It means that they're recognizing a pretty likely reality.
    But this is a way that people try to shut down the criticism without actually addressing any of the real arguments against the movie. They just ASSUME why you don't like the movie because they've convinced themselves there's only one reason that anybody could ever have for not liking the movie.
    I mostly do like the movie. It's well-made, the acting is good, there's some good action in it, the story is decent, and SOME interesting ideas are brought up. Kilmonger is an interesting villain, and his death scene is beautiful.
    Wakanda is a cool place that's well realized. Shuri is a really likeable character.
    But I recognize there are plenty of problems with the movie too. T'Challa is a rather bland protagonist. I don't know quite what it is, but the spark that he had in Civil War just isn't there here. It may be Boseman's performance, which seems strangely reserved, even at times when perhaps he ought to be a bit more passionate to actually be a compelling lead. He had more passion and emotion in Civil War.
    I don't like that Martin Freeman's character is such a rosey, friendly, heroic image of the CIA in Africa, when the real history of the CIA in Africa (as well as the rest of the world) would have them be the villains of this movie. It's clear that he's meant to be the "token white guy" (or "Tolkien white guy" along with Andy Serkis) who serves as the sounding board for flippant colonization references, yet is still this wholesome helpful guy who's instrumental in saving the day! This is an example of something that could have been interesting and really had a message to it, but it feels so shallow and manipulative. If they had actually allowed for some bold storytelling, they would have given Freeman some more nuance, and had his character end up being a third-party conflict. Maybe he's actually on a secret CIA mission to gather intel about vibranium because the US government is seeking to pillage it. That would be a more interesting and realistic use of a CIA agent in the story. It would also add another dimension to the decision to give vibranium to the world at the end. That's the kind of storytelling decision I'd say would make it more Oscar-worthy, if they pulled it off well.
    And uh... get rid of the f**king CGI rhinos.
    The climax of the movie feels too conventional for a story that had felt more unique and interesting when it hinged on ideological differences. But there's no resolution on that front, other than to kill the guys we disagree with who want to do "bad things". Part of what made Kilmonger interesting is that he has SOME credibility when it comes to his concerns about oppressed black people worldwide. The ending of the movie with T'Challa opening Wakanda to the world, starting the schools/charity, etc... is cool and all, but it's an afterthought instead of being the resolution. Kilmonger dying is the way things are really resolved. Wouldn't it have been great if T'Challa had actually just told Kilmonger, "Hey, how about we do this to help our oppressed brothers and sisters instead of blowing shit up?". Kilmonger then has to justify why he wants to take the violent route, and then if they come to blows over it, it becomes an exploration of the nature of violence and whether it's the right answer. This is somewhat brought up, but not really explored. Exploring that in the scene, between the characters, is when it really matters. But instead they fight, Kilmonger dies, they blow up the ships, bad guys die and it's the easy way out. The theme is somewhat abandoned during the climax, and then only comes back into play for the denouement as a sort of "button" to the story instead of the climax. The pros and cons of violent means to supposedly righteous ends are never really weighed in any real way. Violence ends up being used to solve the problem of the threat of violence... what's the message there in the end, if there even is one? That's not great screenwriting... it's better than average, because at least it brought up these themes at all, but to be a great screenplay, you have to really delve into it and explore it more powerfully and integrally. The mark of a great comic book movie, IMO, is that it transcends being a comic book movie. The climax of this movie feels right dang smack in the middle of being a typical Hollywood comic book movie. Compare it to The Dark Knight, where our hero ends up in a stalemate with the villain and the climactic scene is literally them just talking about the nature of Gotham's society and pontificating about how their ideological differences have destined them to do this forever (shot in a really unique way, clearly visualizing the opposite "ying and yang" dynamic between them as the Joker is literally upside down and we twist to match his perspective opposite Batman's upright, "normal" perspective), before we get to the unconventional fourth act ending between our heroes and a fallen hero that involves a tough dilemma of covering up the fallen hero's crimes for the sake of the greater good, cutting to black with our hero on the run from the law, yet being glorified for doing so. That's an interesting climax and resolution. That's the type of movie I'd say is worthy of a Best Picture nomination, if not at least a Best Screenplay nom. It's actually challenging in terms of whether it's the right thing for the hero to do, and it really leans into that gray area. It forces the audience to ask themselves value questions that the film doesn't necessarily give an easy answer to. Black Panther tries to give easy answers and make the ending feel unquestionably positive. Kilmonger dying is a sad scene, but once he's gone, things are all peachy, and T'Challa just up and decides to change Wakanda's ways because... it's time, i guess There's no weight given to the complicated concerns of what "opening Wakanda to the world" will actually entail and what the effects might be, for both Wakanda and the world. That's not really an exploration. It just kinda happens, and the real reason we're meant to like it is because "Ooh, that means Wakanda tech will be in other movies now! Coolzies!" Meanwhile, we get a nice little subtle message of "Globalization = Good!" and/or "Using small sovereign nations for their resources = Good!"
    Sounds like an American classic, I guess.
    None of these are fatal flaws necessarily, and like I said, I do still think it's an overall good movie. But I don't think it's a great movie on the level of The Dark Knight, and there are better contenders just this year when it comes to comic book movies that deserve recognition. Infinity War had a way tougher job to do than Black Panther did, and it succeeded more flawlessly, IMO. It actually did do something unconventional with its story, and took more bold risks in how it dealt with its themes. The events that actually happened in it are what have made a cultural impact (not to mention an impact on the series' story), instead of its impact being mostly based on (you have to admit it)... the cast's race. The "Snappening" has had way more impact than anything from Black Panther, including "Wakana Forever!", which even Chadwick Boseman got sick of... and Michael B Jordon wanted nothing to do with.
    So at the end of the day, it really does feel like the logical answer to "Why is THIS one the first?" is that it happened to be a successful film starring a black cast, that at least brings up some black issues, and the Academy felt that deserved to be recognized above films that actually had more bold, unique and resonating storytelling. And that would be fine, if it wasn't treated like this wasn't the case, and if the defenders of the movie didn't feel the need to make it seem like even suggesting that it might be the case makes you racist. It's not racist to recognize what the major element of the movie is that people seem to like or be paying attention to. If people JUST liked it because it's a good comic book movie, or because they think the story was well told, then the defense of the movie would be focused on that. But that's never the defense that's used. I only ever see it defended on the basis of it being "groundbreaking" for black representation, and that's why it's significant. That's true, and that's great in and of itself... but that doesn't necessarily make it a good movie. If you want to argue that "Best Picture" also entails the movie's place in history and how significant is in terms of things like minority representation... then fine, make that argument. But don't dismiss the people who care more about the quality of the movie itself as a movie and had legitimate problems on that front... either as racists or "whiners" just to make yourself feel righteous and mature. That's really not fair.

  • @goldenlightpictures6223
    @goldenlightpictures6223 5 лет назад +22

    Who was Mr.Rogers?
    Cuz he did a good Mr. Rogers

    • @Bennyboi004
      @Bennyboi004 5 лет назад

      Golden Light Pictures I’m guessing Jon Bailey/Epic Voice Guy as he does quite a few different voices
      but I could be wrong

    • @ceruleantear1
      @ceruleantear1 5 лет назад

      Josh Robert Thompson voiced Mr Rogers

    • @shitpostheavy
      @shitpostheavy 5 лет назад

      It's almost like you didn't watch the video

    • @goldenlightpictures6223
      @goldenlightpictures6223 5 лет назад +1

      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ actually I did!! They didn’t ever say who it was they just said he was in the credits

    • @dum5375
      @dum5375 5 лет назад

      It was Gary Oldmam.100% fact!

  • @ieatgremlins
    @ieatgremlins 5 лет назад +1

    I love Joe’s point about Spike’s idea behind the ending, ambiguity can be dangerous. Yes, I am watching this super late!

  • @asiftoks
    @asiftoks 5 лет назад +6

    No one:
    Bradley Cooper:
    in the SHAAAAHHHAAAA SHHHAAAHHAAAA LOWWWWW

  • @DanielSolis
    @DanielSolis 5 лет назад +1

    On the topic of pivotal alternate universe flashpoints, I'd point to the early 00's Writer's Strike. That season led to a lot of reality TV shows getting greenlit, including the Apprentice. One thing leads to another, and boom we're in the darkest timeline.

  • @LynWise1
    @LynWise1 5 лет назад +1

    one of the best parts of my day

  • @JCIce007
    @JCIce007 5 лет назад +17

    The only controversy about Black KKKlansmen seems to be from the director of Sorry to Bother you hating on Spike and the cop the movie is about. Could be interesting tweets if it wins.

    • @npcimknot958
      @npcimknot958 5 лет назад +1

      JCIce007 that tweet was pretty epic and i agree with it

    • @21pilotstillidie58
      @21pilotstillidie58 5 лет назад +1

      I liked Sorry to Bother You but i dislike the director. I remember watching him on SJU and i just couldn't stand him. Just the sound of his voice annoyed me.

  • @shailiksarkar2724
    @shailiksarkar2724 5 лет назад +6

    Can anyone share the link to the sketch that Dan was talking about? I have faith in Internet.

    • @EzraDair
      @EzraDair 5 лет назад

      Shailik Sarkar during which film ?

    • @shailiksarkar2724
      @shailiksarkar2724 5 лет назад

      @@EzraDair Green Book. When they were discussing that Jeff Danielle Sketch

  • @grahamcann1761
    @grahamcann1761 5 лет назад +2

    Always great to see JTE.

  • @SylviusTheMad
    @SylviusTheMad 5 лет назад +2

    What's the deal with the weird aspect ratio on the Shallow Hal clip?

  • @Clothy22
    @Clothy22 5 лет назад +9

    I want Bohemian Rhapsody to win. Mainly because I loved it. Also, because the shit storm would be amazing. Weird that it had no director.

    • @PanAndScanBuddy
      @PanAndScanBuddy 5 лет назад

      It's just not that good. It's the Shakespeare In Love of this year's Oscars. Except Green Book won. Which is worse.

  • @Fawkes2574
    @Fawkes2574 5 лет назад

    ROTFLMAO!!!! 6:06, Joe struggles with his headset, but then looks up and sees both Spencer & Dan going on without their's and is like "Oh, okay."

  • @ayushsuri7462
    @ayushsuri7462 5 лет назад +1

    i guess it's because i'm short on time but i find myself just watching this and not the actual honest trailer it's lovely because I get both

  • @1chroust12
    @1chroust12 5 лет назад

    The Bathtub scene. Spencer is hilarious

  • @suramyasingh2465
    @suramyasingh2465 5 лет назад +1

    11:30 You guys nailed the argument against the nonsensical backlash that comic book nerds and rabid infinity war fans have come up with- Black Panther is far far more deserving of the nomination

  • @angelikussnape
    @angelikussnape 5 лет назад +2

    Screen Junkies should just host the Oscars. There. Problem solved. You’re welcome Oscars.

  • @patrikbasketmaster
    @patrikbasketmaster 5 лет назад +8

    Dont tell me to watch the Honest Trailer Spencer

  • @brandonandcharlene9527
    @brandonandcharlene9527 5 лет назад +3

    One of the few times I only need to watch the commentary

  • @ericmicke4130
    @ericmicke4130 5 лет назад +3

    I think Blackkklansman was the best movie last year for me. At least one of the top 2 or 3 for sure. And I haven't seen, most of the best picture nominees or a ton of others so take that for what it is. But as far as the ending of the movie, for me the movie ended and then we got a message from the director. Like a hey dipshit, this isn't a thing of the past. It's still a problem now. And so I almost don't count that as part of the movie but that's just how I took it and when it's something as important as this subject matter I'm okay with a 5 minute editorial/message at the end. Now if a movie ends and then we get a "Now here's why the earth is flat and everyone is lying to you" I'd have an issue with it.

  • @DSzaks
    @DSzaks 5 лет назад +10

    I would be good with blackkklansman

  • @artistwithouttalent
    @artistwithouttalent 5 лет назад

    Kevin should win the award for Best Editing for that _Bohemian Rhapsody_ bit.
    EDIT: AND that deleted scene! Holy shit!

  • @youcantseeme2244
    @youcantseeme2244 5 лет назад +12

    I'm not sure if Black Panther will help other comic book movies in the future because I don't think it was nominated for how good of a movie it was. I think it will help other comic book movies that have political messages but that's it. For the record I don't hate Black Panther, I think it's fine, but I think it was nominated solely for it's cultural relevance and that's not what Best Picture should be based on imo.

    • @braydenfitzsimmons6824
      @braydenfitzsimmons6824 5 лет назад +2

      Ricky Rushton you clearly don’t know anything about season if you think politics and relevance don’t play a factor

    • @NichSchoepfer
      @NichSchoepfer 5 лет назад +1

      None of them are nominated on how good they are, it's just a progressive virtue signalling circle jerk.

    • @finnkellett3104
      @finnkellett3104 5 лет назад +1

      Ricky Rushton/ I totally agree. Great film but there were better superhero movies and movies in general

    • @RabbiSteve
      @RabbiSteve 5 лет назад

      Yep. Agreed. It was a decent superhero film, with some cool set pieces and a very interesting setting. But its strongest point to make it "Oscar-worthy" was its completely anachronistic "anti-colonial" message. Which did not improve the movie.

  • @BustedHeart
    @BustedHeart 5 лет назад

    Joe Starr has literally stolen my thoughts out my brain and replicated them perfectly here. How did you do this, Joe?

  • @rw835
    @rw835 4 года назад

    Any plans to do a 2020 Oscars honest trailer??

  • @Gunslinger199
    @Gunslinger199 5 лет назад +3

    it's not like I don't like most nominees, but I don't really care about them. Hereditary, Blindspotting and Eight Grade are way better.

  • @JDotWill
    @JDotWill 5 лет назад +1

    I need someone to do a video breaking down the controversy around the Best Picture nominees. I keep hearing about them but no one really goes into any kind of detail

  • @meloD30
    @meloD30 5 лет назад

    3:13 I'm pretty sure Taran from Linus Tech Tips did this at LTX last year.
    If the Oscars wanna give it a go all I'm sayin is I'd better see some LIVE HAND-DRAWN ANIMATION.

  • @legendlover91
    @legendlover91 5 лет назад +1

    The Favourite and Blackkklansman are the only films i feel strongly about.

    • @EdmundSnow98
      @EdmundSnow98 5 лет назад +1

      I literally had to sit in my car for a few minutes after watching BlacKkKlansman in theatres.

  • @fangirlfortheages5940
    @fangirlfortheages5940 5 лет назад +4

    I’m sad no shoutout in the trailer for eighth grade snub??

  • @nicoguerreronico
    @nicoguerreronico 5 лет назад +1

    We all still need Super Troopers 1 and 2

  • @studentfilmed
    @studentfilmed 5 лет назад +1

    Not sure what Dan’s alt title for BlackKklansman would have been but Juwanna Klan cracked me up

    • @_jolie_
      @_jolie_ 5 лет назад

      Could you explain the title to me please? Clueless French here

    • @studentfilmed
      @studentfilmed 5 лет назад

      jolie
      Juwanna Klan is a joke on the movie Juwanna Man which is about a man sneaking onto a women’s basketball team. Whereas BlackKklansman is about a black guy pretending to be white in order to join the KKK

  • @siriusgray
    @siriusgray 5 лет назад +1

    When it comes to bohemian rhapsody, I can’t tell if the people who think it’s the worst movie ever made are a very vocal minority or if they actually represent a significant portion of the populace. What’s the deal?

  • @Alex-kf4zf
    @Alex-kf4zf 5 лет назад +3

    I'm with Dan. Spiderverse was the best superhero last year. It checked the same social boxes as Black Panther, but was just way better. But I dont begrudge it its nomination, I just would have picked a different horse.

    • @kylebookout1789
      @kylebookout1789 5 лет назад

      Spiderverse was my snub as well. It's just operating creatively on all cylinders. Black panther made all the money and made such a cultural impact. But overall was just a solid film imo.

  • @goldenlightpictures6223
    @goldenlightpictures6223 5 лет назад +3

    Next week Bohemian Rhapsosy!!

    • @NateBeeman
      @NateBeeman 5 лет назад +2

      I'm pretty sure it's A Star is Born

  • @henrygold3760
    @henrygold3760 5 лет назад +1

    can we get a sorry to bother you trailer

  • @zeinaalawar
    @zeinaalawar 5 лет назад

    I didn't mind the historical inaccuracies in Green Book that much. The family seemed mostly concerned about whether the relationship between them was an employment or a friendship, which is not as major as changing someone's personality traits or the events that actually happened for example.
    It has been established that it was a fact that he had definitely fallen out with his family and didn't interact with them much, so IDK if I trust his brother's account of his relationship with his employees because I don't think he witnessed it first-hand. Also, his main argument was a snooty "oh my brother would never fraternize with the hired help"

  • @TepidShark
    @TepidShark 5 лет назад +1

    Living dangerously if the Star is Born one is next week. I don't think it will but if it wins Best Picture, they'll have to probably change it at the last minute again.

  • @beepopp7306
    @beepopp7306 5 лет назад

    I'd be super happy for Blackkklansman. So good and Spike Lee is a treasure

  • @michaelleone9931
    @michaelleone9931 5 лет назад

    Yes, please review The Wandering Earth!! I saw it in NYC. But 99% of the country can’t see it, right? Maybe 90%?

  • @HeadCannon19
    @HeadCannon19 5 лет назад

    Is this a new set?

  • @jamiericcardo6698
    @jamiericcardo6698 5 лет назад

    Does Dan have a scar down the left hand side of his face?

  • @dinitha11
    @dinitha11 5 лет назад +7

    Lol Spencer said Black Panther is the most deserving of the comic book movies this year. Respect for Dan for correcting his ignorant ass with "I'd put Spider-Verse in there". Thank You, Dan,

  • @Fawkes2574
    @Fawkes2574 5 лет назад

    OMG These guys crack me up!!!

  • @Grimmtoof
    @Grimmtoof 5 лет назад +1

    Do Legends of Tomorrow, there's so many crazy things in it half the work is done already!

  • @drmattconrad77
    @drmattconrad77 5 лет назад

    It really figures that the day that I couldn’t use my phone that you streamed this live. So sad now .....

  • @jonwright6472
    @jonwright6472 5 лет назад

    I dunno if I'll actually watch the awards. The thing is that every category should have twice the number of nominees just to keep with the times of increasing numbers of films. I'm upset "Widows," "Hereditary," "Ant-Man and the Wasp," "Eighth Grade" and even "Suspiria" get snubbed. "Widows" had several breakout performances and brilliant editing, "Hereditary" had a great actress and director, "Ant-Man" was fun and visually fantastic (note: do we REALLY have to nominate the new "Avengers: Infinity War"? How about "Solo"?), "Eighth Grade" I expected several things from, and "Suspiria" had great Make-Up and tech.

  • @drklingon
    @drklingon 5 лет назад

    Christian Bale AS Richard Dreyfuss playing Dick Cheny...

  • @eduardocosta86
    @eduardocosta86 5 лет назад +1

    dear dan people are dumb, if they're going to watch a "biopic" they will asume every thing in there is true. And joe is right about the ending of black klansman, i live in brazil and there people in the right that say that the nazis were comunist, the german government made a video explaning what the nazis were, and they said that germans don't understand nazism

    • @shauryadivya1736
      @shauryadivya1736 4 года назад

      Nazi were far right. But I hope you aren't making a case for communism.

    • @eduardocosta86
      @eduardocosta86 4 года назад

      @@shauryadivya1736 dude where did you get i was making a point for comunism? I was saying people in brazil say nazis were far left, they say that cause they are far right and wanted to plant the fear of comunism so they could win the election, and they did

  • @LongfellowDeeds-jy2le
    @LongfellowDeeds-jy2le 5 лет назад +6

    Well it’s because the comic book movies people wanted nominated for an Oscar were amazing movies in all facets.

    • @LongfellowDeeds-jy2le
      @LongfellowDeeds-jy2le 5 лет назад +6

      Captain America the winter soldier, Logan, the dark knight, infinity war, Iron Man, The Avengers, in MY opinion are far better movies than Black Panther. Not to say I didn’t like Black Panther.

    • @yusei151
      @yusei151 5 лет назад

      @@LongfellowDeeds-jy2le WE GOT AN OPINION OVER HERE LADIES AND GENTLEMAN WE GOT ANOTHER OPINION!! Can you tell me the other films that came out those years that got Oscar noms or how the oscars worked those years? Cause if you can't explain that how the fuck can you compare today to years ago? Get over it we're in 2019, those films not having Oscars dont make them bad films but leave it to nerds to now take an interest in this award and bitch about a film getting a nom in ITS YEAR. And if you wanna get technical Infinity war isn't really a film. Its a tv show entry that if any one jumps into the MCU they are lost. Its a technical achievement but its not as story thats accessible to everyone. The blinders are on super strong for this. You would think the Oscars paid peoples bills or does their healthcare with how much people care.

  • @edwardflores6604
    @edwardflores6604 5 лет назад +2

    Vanya was destroying the world at the end, that's why the was a sound rumble

  • @venuzbabi08
    @venuzbabi08 5 лет назад +1

    That echo is crazy!

  • @withlovesavyjovannapavlak5968
    @withlovesavyjovannapavlak5968 5 лет назад

    The only thing that bothers me about how inaccurate Bohemian Rhapsody is is that they say he’s just gay, but he was clearly bisexual and even dated another woman after Mary for a long time. So now, a lot of people will likely think Freddie was gay and not bi and we’ll lose a bit of his history

  • @munjee2
    @munjee2 5 лет назад

    9:40 don't think I missed that, joe

  • @michaelmcdermott5841
    @michaelmcdermott5841 5 лет назад +3

    I don't really agree with Dan's point - The inaccuracies in Man on the Moon is part of the joke of that film: Jim Carrey in character as Andy Kaufman even states at the beginning of the film that events in his life get mixed around in the movie and that he hates it and then he tells everyone to leave the theatre, which works for the film knowing what we know about Kaufman. The inaccuracies in Bohemian Rhapsody are just sad and emotionally manipulative in order for a "big pay off" to the Live Aid performance. It's not in anyway the same because tonally both films are so different but I do agree with Dan that there were at least fifty films released last year that should have been nominated for Best Picture in its place - in fact most films released last year were probably more worthy of this nomination.

  • @specialistbrief2787
    @specialistbrief2787 5 лет назад +1

    I have watched 25th hour, Malcolm X, and do the right thing

  • @bethperforms6191
    @bethperforms6191 5 лет назад +2

    I’m all about a comic book movie getting best picture, but I just watched Black Panther, and the best part is Michael B. Jordan. The rest is a mediocre story that’s designed beautifully. Except for the rhinos. I honestly don’t get the hype. Please feel free to educate me! I’m very willing to admit it’s my ignorance.

  • @juanmiguelreside460
    @juanmiguelreside460 5 лет назад

    Missed opportunity to intro with a Michael Buffer voice.

  • @chelseafrank5941
    @chelseafrank5941 5 лет назад +1

    Paddington 2 was the biggest snub don't @ me

    • @EdmundSnow98
      @EdmundSnow98 5 лет назад

      It doesn't really fit into the categories but it is a really good movie.

  • @markrufus8421
    @markrufus8421 5 лет назад

    We live in a world where Suicide Squad has an Oscar and Logan doesn't

  • @ViggoMor10sen
    @ViggoMor10sen 5 лет назад +3

    While I also wouldn't nominate Black Panther, I'd take out like half the movies on this list before I take out that one. The list is just _really_ bad imo.

  • @Lavacamooz567
    @Lavacamooz567 5 лет назад

    I've hated BoRap since I came out due to its quality and how it portrayed certain events, especially Freddy's private life.

  • @theminingbat
    @theminingbat 5 лет назад +9

    You guys are so right about Roma. It’s such a masterful film but no one wants to watch because they have to laugh or see an action scene every two seconds instead of recognizing true art, plus normies are too pathetic and lazy to read subtitles. It’s like if a movie has no flashy spectacle then people will say it’s boring and bad. Pathetic. Roma is the best film of the year and I hope it wins Best Picture.

    • @theminingbat
      @theminingbat 5 лет назад +3

      I’d also be happy if The Favourite won.

  • @Some_Guy_In_Ohio
    @Some_Guy_In_Ohio 5 лет назад

    I said this on the other video but it bears repeating"
    > "Neighbor" is a huge snub
    >At least they don't have an equivalent of "The Checklist" this year...

  • @MyahJones12
    @MyahJones12 5 лет назад

    I might not have loved black panther but if it does win I won’t be mad because that might give other great comic book movies chances to even be nominated for best picture.

  • @redfox7497
    @redfox7497 5 лет назад

    "8 movies at the same time man.." *is he referencing Office Space joke?*