God, sometimes I forget that’s Hugo under there aka Agent Smith, but yea, with that reminder, watching this video back, I can just imagine someone editing a “Mr Anderson,” in there.
"Beneath this mask there is more than flesh... beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy... and ideas are bulletproof...!" gives me chills every time, this man invokes fear in mortal men in a way no normal man ever could, including some of us watching
It shouldn't be fear, it's hope! The greatest weapon against a tyranny; any tyranny - especially nowadays - is to just simply think and say no, thanks. George Orwell says in a kingdom of lies, the one who speaks truth is treason. Mark Twain states it's everyone's responsibility to stand up what we believe in and, in truth, make our stand there. Wisdom comes from fear but truth comes from thought: if you are afraid of the truth, you aren't thinking. If you are thinking about fear, you aren't wise. Be full of hope, have faith in yourself, be true to yourself and be vigilant on those who say otherwise - that's what V wants. AND that is indestructible. (He might have said it more but I think he realized those Magnums went through his steel plate).
Though it's not said in the film, in the graphic novel it's explained that the experimentation that was done on him gave him somewhat superhuman reflexes and strength - which would explain how he survived long enough to kill everybody.
Actually it's just described as hormone research with a pituarin/pinearin mixture, which causes a psychotic breakdown in the man in Room 5 and gives him a totally magnetic personality. Nothing is said about superhuman reflexes and strength.
@@Lightscribe721 It's not explicitly said as such, or stated differently, it's not as "obviously said" as "superhuman reflexes and strength". But it is heavily implied to be, and more specifically, in this scene.
Also when he throws the first 2 knives he quickly makes a V out of them. Creedy's revolver shoots 5 rounds at the end as well, instead of 6. The whole movie is full of Vs and 5s.
"No, what you have are bullet, and the hope that when your guns are empty, I am no longer standing. Because if I am, you'll all be dead before you've reloaded." One of my favorite lines ever, so badass.
@@YSleepish You wrong. One of the solders also reloaded but he never got off a shot. And Creedy wasn't killed like the rest because V wanted to take his time with him.
For anyone who didn't know, V is superhuman, but not like a big time superhero. Thats why he was able to survive all those bullets for a short while even though they pierced his armour.
Very possible that due to the fire, either his pain levels are so high as to make them mute, or he does not feel pain. So damage to body can be largely ignored, at the very least he is not susceptible to passing out from the damage he takes.
The impression i got from this scene when he said "ideas are bulletproof" even though he didnt have a steel plate and died right at the beginning, there was no way stopping V anymore and Mr. Creedy is already dead. The people already stood up to tyranny...all because of V. You're the man!
I think it's reminiscent of President FDR in that books can't be killed by fire and certain tyrannies were into that at wartime. The fact that people remember, think and pass on info to others - the things that the government were suppressing - meant that, in time, you can't use force to stop humanity.
2:13 Everyone is talking about the amazing writing, which I love too, but I have to appreciate that camera pan with the main focus being on V's knife but that the pan stops right on Creedy dropping the casings out of his revolver. It feels so cinematic having the action in the background to what should be a boring event, loading a firearm, but it isn't because of the implied pressure. They're racing, Creedy to reload and V to dispatch everyone. It has the same feel as an old western cowboy duel but with the unique component of one person using knives while out-numbered.
"we have guns." "no what you have are bullets and the hope that by the time your guns are empty i'm no longer standing, because if i am you'll all be dead before you've reloaded." -best line ever!!
Wrong guns. If your target doesn't die, you don't drop everything for a knife, you get a bigger gun. Clarence J. Boddicker would have made short work of him. Because of the bigger guns!
You have to remember, besides enhanced strength, endurance and pain tolerance, V posses heightened senses (due to cell mutation). Slow motion is used: 1) so you have an idea how fast, accurate and strong V is suppose to be (10 guys died before they were able to reload their guns, and the last guy (the 11) before Mr. Creedy, receives a knife to his head with such strength that it goes through his cranium). 2) So you can appreciate every second of the fight and gain full understanding of it.
I understand one thing for sure, Creedy didn't know how to load out his tac team. No backups, no shotgun, no kevlar, which would have stopped most of those knife strikes. The regime might have been stable if not for the thuggish gestapo head. If it had been someone like Putin V would've been recruited.
@@sid2112 V being as smart and dangerous as he is, would’ve been a much better ally. Only an idiot would make a man like that their enemy, and the regime leader was that idiot.
If you pay attention to this fight scene there are five refrences to the number five and the letter "V" in it. The first is the fact that Creedy and his gaurds are standing in a V formation,the second is before he throws his knives he makes a V out of them,the third is after he throws the first two knives they make a V five times (this one you have to pause consecutivly to see),the fourth is that Creedy fires only five bullets from his gun at V,and the sixth one is that V makes a "V" on the wall
" No what you have are bullets and the hope that when your guns are empty I'm no longer standing. Because if not you all will be dead before you've reloaded. " my favorite line in the movie
Just watch the whole movie and you'll understand. One of the best fight scenes and most intense. I just got the goosebumps all over me when i watched this for the first time.
It's a great line -- which is why it's been used in so many movies: Iron Man, Serenity, and Van Helsing are just three of them. There are many more that I'm forgetting at the moment. (If anyone out there wants to remind us of some of the others, I'd be immensely grateful...)
"What you have are bullets, and the hope that when your guns are empty I'll be no longer standing, because if I am, you'll all be dead before I've reloaded." V has the most badass lines in this movie! If you think about it though this isn't a fight scene. It's a massacre!
For those that are griping about it, though it is not obvious in the Film, in the original Graphic Novel V was experimented on. He was granted superhuman reflexes, speed, strength, durability, as well as incredible immunity system and healing factor (no not like wolverine, but stronger then a human by far). This is what granted him the ability to facetank so many bullets, and still keep going- only dieing afterward. That and of course his inhuman willpower he had before the experimentation.
OOOhhhh....my favorite scene of the whole movie, with one of the best quotations I've ever heard: "Beneath this mask, there's more than flesh. Beneath this mask...there's an idea, Mr Creedy. And ideas are bulletproof!" I really LOVE this scene!
Easily one of the best movies ever made and if this is not up in the top most epic final fight scenes of all time I'm not sure what makes a good movie anymore.
"No, what you have are bullets. And the hope that when your guns are empty I'm no longer standing, because if I am... You'll all be dead before you've reloaded." And then he proceeded to demonstrate said claim. Epicly.
@@YSleepish Two of them if you count Creedy. But he took them all out after eating, like, 300 bullets, plus he choked the life out of Creedy, which was highly satisfying to watch. We so much need V now, if anything just to get us to the bad guys molesting us for two years. We can do the rest.
@@sam-kx3ty Depend. Assuming they were using hollowpoints (likely since they assumed him unarmoured), much of the impact would have been absorbed with the remaining shrapnel not being immediately lethal. Honestly, Mr Creedy's pistol probably dealt the most damage both in terms of bullet type and because he got an extra volley off into the already fully compromised plate.
Regardless of what his armor was made of, he was hit by over 150 bullets (10 shooters with mostly modified Beretta 92's, plus the leader guy with 12 shots from his wheel gun). Laws of averages are that some of them will find unarmored spots.
The closing scene makes me cry, because it's a dream all down-trodden British people desperately hope for! Governments should never give a country's citizens...nothing left to lose!
"The only thing we hav in common is we are both about to die", that has got to be one of the most badass lines in movie history. We all die, but not all of us get to say something so incredible and spine chilling to an evil person before we take them with us.
Aside of all the symbolic movie stuff, the fact that the fight takes place in closed quarters, in near darkness means that regardless of how many guys he takes on he has the advantage of tactical speed. So even knifes beat guns in this one, at least for a while.
Great scene, great movie. I've read the graphic novel too and it was even more dark and gritty posing an alternative world to the one we know today very well. I think as a film adaptation this was excellent even though this scene doesn't happen in the movie it does justify the action/violence aspect of a thriller, so in a way it keeps faithful to the genre.
You know what's frightening: the fact that he pulls out that body armour lot of bullet holes and blood and you automatically realize the blatant fate of this main character.
2 guys initially with one that figure 8 motion, then gets the duds on the immediate left and immediate right of Creedy then slaughters 10 more guys in seconds, all together 14 dudes slaughtered with nothing but bloody knifes & fancy Karate gimmicks. This scene is a 10/10!
honestly when i heard about this movie for the 1st time i though: oh well another super hero movie...tough life,beath the bad guys, save the world, bang the hot bimbo... But when i watched it i was blowned to the wall..i watched it twice in a row! Its THAT good !!!
The only video that can make me cry. I think I might have to watch it a couple more times to produce some tears, but this was the saddest part of the movie, for me anyways.
thats the epic about him ,, he wants them to fear him and their people he wants them to know what he wants , what they did to him was monstrous , so they created a monster, and his speechs , ARE AWESOME !
@leverbart Actually, the metal vest decreased the bullet speed right before entering in his body. He had alot of strength, so this could be possible but probability is slim, but still possible. The only thing what is impossible is to have the strength to break creedy's neck!! It's still one of the best movies i've ever seen!!! every year i plan to watch this movie on 5 of november which will occur in a few days :) So i can remember the awesomeness of that movie
Chills. Without an actor's main tool, facial expressions, Hugo Weaving invokes just as much with his amazing skills of voice. Perfection.
God, sometimes I forget that’s Hugo under there aka Agent Smith, but yea, with that reminder, watching this video back, I can just imagine someone editing a “Mr Anderson,” in there.
@@commandercritic9036 i think he was only smith to a one generation then he was elrond to many more.
@@MrEMVme very true, I knew him as both, and it was the Smith one that stood out to me
@@commandercritic9036 Sometimes I wonder if it should have been James Purefoy. Hugo Weaving can still be the voice though.
hugo weaving is an excellent voice actor. transformers. he gets megatrons psychopathic menacing down
"Beneath this mask there is more than flesh... beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy... and ideas are bulletproof...!" gives me chills every time, this man invokes fear in mortal men in a way no normal man ever could, including some of us watching
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It shouldn't be fear, it's hope! The greatest weapon against a tyranny; any tyranny - especially nowadays - is to just simply think and say no, thanks. George Orwell says in a kingdom of lies, the one who speaks truth is treason. Mark Twain states it's everyone's responsibility to stand up what we believe in and, in truth, make our stand there. Wisdom comes from fear but truth comes from thought: if you are afraid of the truth, you aren't thinking. If you are thinking about fear, you aren't wise. Be full of hope, have faith in yourself, be true to yourself and be vigilant on those who say otherwise - that's what V wants. AND that is indestructible. (He might have said it more but I think he realized those Magnums went through his steel plate).
dont be racist psl
Carlos am I missing something here? Where is the racism?
Theodore Roosevelt; "Patriotism is standing by your country. It is not standing by the govt."
Though it's not said in the film, in the graphic novel it's explained that the experimentation that was done on him gave him somewhat superhuman reflexes and strength - which would explain how he survived long enough to kill everybody.
Pretty sure it's said in they movie, too. Very in passing, but it's there.
"The mutations seem to have triggered the abnormal development of basic kinesthesia and reflexes." from the doctors journal
Is it not said in the film? I feel like I already knew that he was "enhanced", and I've definitely never read the novel.
Actually it's just described as hormone research with a pituarin/pinearin mixture, which causes a psychotic breakdown in the man in Room 5 and gives him a totally magnetic personality. Nothing is said about superhuman reflexes and strength.
@@Lightscribe721 It's not explicitly said as such, or stated differently, it's not as "obviously said" as "superhuman reflexes and strength".
But it is heavily implied to be, and more specifically, in this scene.
While he is bleeding and he leans on the wall, the moment he leaves, the blood on the wall read V.
Simply marvelous.
Nice catch. I never noticed that before.
Also when he throws the first 2 knives he quickly makes a V out of them. Creedy's revolver shoots 5 rounds at the end as well, instead of 6. The whole movie is full of Vs and 5s.
Details to impress 10yo
"No, what you have are bullet, and the hope that when your guns are empty, I am no longer standing. Because if I am, you'll all be dead before you've reloaded."
One of my favorite lines ever, so badass.
he lied though, because creedy reloaded.
@@YSleepish You wrong. One of the solders also reloaded but he never got off a shot. And Creedy wasn't killed like the rest because V wanted to take his time with him.
@@watcher1258 that just helps prove my point. Two of them reloaded.
I think the lesson here that it’s faster to switch to your secondary than reloading.
@@watcher1258 Creedy gets a much more fitting ending in the graphic novel, and so does V.
For anyone who didn't know, V is superhuman, but not like a big time superhero. Thats why he was able to survive all those bullets for a short while even though they pierced his armour.
Very possible that due to the fire, either his pain levels are so high as to make them mute, or he does not feel pain. So damage to body can be largely ignored, at the very least he is not susceptible to passing out from the damage he takes.
according to the Gotham TV show, set a few years later, V has survived (if they're the same person).
That’s obvious.
They showed it.
The impression i got from this scene when he said "ideas are bulletproof" even though he didnt have a steel plate and died right at the beginning, there was no way stopping V anymore and Mr. Creedy is already dead. The people already stood up to tyranny...all because of V. You're the man!
I think it's reminiscent of President FDR in that books can't be killed by fire and certain tyrannies were into that at wartime. The fact that people remember, think and pass on info to others - the things that the government were suppressing - meant that, in time, you can't use force to stop humanity.
2:13 Everyone is talking about the amazing writing, which I love too, but I have to appreciate that camera pan with the main focus being on V's knife but that the pan stops right on Creedy dropping the casings out of his revolver. It feels so cinematic having the action in the background to what should be a boring event, loading a firearm, but it isn't because of the implied pressure. They're racing, Creedy to reload and V to dispatch everyone. It has the same feel as an old western cowboy duel but with the unique component of one person using knives while out-numbered.
"we have guns."
"no what you have are bullets and the hope that by the time your guns are empty i'm no longer standing, because if i am you'll all be dead before you've reloaded." -best line ever!!
Wrong guns. If your target doesn't die, you don't drop everything for a knife, you get a bigger gun. Clarence J. Boddicker would have made short work of him. Because of the bigger guns!
Indeed
Man of his word
You have to remember, besides enhanced strength, endurance and pain tolerance, V posses heightened senses (due to cell mutation). Slow motion is used: 1) so you have an idea how fast, accurate and strong V is suppose to be (10 guys died before they were able to reload their guns, and the last guy (the 11) before Mr. Creedy, receives a knife to his head with such strength that it goes through his cranium). 2) So you can appreciate every second of the fight and gain full understanding of it.
I understand one thing for sure, Creedy didn't know how to load out his tac team. No backups, no shotgun, no kevlar, which would have stopped most of those knife strikes. The regime might have been stable if not for the thuggish gestapo head. If it had been someone like Putin V would've been recruited.
@@sid2112 V being as smart and dangerous as he is, would’ve been a much better ally.
Only an idiot would make a man like that their enemy, and the regime leader was that idiot.
One of the most epic lines ever. Only surpassed by his introduction.
Who else get's chills every time they hear V say "My turn"?
Every. Single. Rewatch.
"My Turn" V is amazing. Great story behind him too.
If you pay attention to this fight scene there are five refrences to the number five and the letter "V" in it. The first is the fact that Creedy and his gaurds are standing in a V formation,the second is before he throws his knives he makes a V out of them,the third is after he throws the first two knives they make a V five times (this one you have to pause consecutivly to see),the fourth is that Creedy fires only five bullets from his gun at V,and the sixth one is that V makes a "V" on the wall
This movie has so much soul. One of my all time favourites.
" No what you have are bullets and the hope that when your guns are empty I'm no longer standing. Because if not you all will be dead before you've reloaded. " my favorite line in the movie
"Ideas are bulletproof" That is an epic quote!!!!
This scene was one of the most suspenseful action scenes I've ever seen in my life
The last line about V being an idea just certifies his badassedness
"Silly V, bringing knives to a gunfight
...wait, shit."
Just watch the whole movie and you'll understand. One of the best fight scenes and most intense. I just got the goosebumps all over me when i watched this for the first time.
My favorite line is.
"My turn."
It's a great line -- which is why it's been used in so many movies: Iron Man, Serenity, and Van Helsing are just three of them. There are many more that I'm forgetting at the moment.
(If anyone out there wants to remind us of some of the others, I'd be immensely grateful...)
What a badass. He's bleeding out but still manages to make a V with his own blood.
Hearing him breathe through the mask and him struggling to walk off are the best parts. Defiant to the end!
V
"What you have are bullets, and the hope that when your guns are empty I'll be no longer standing, because if I am, you'll all be dead before I've reloaded."
V has the most badass lines in this movie! If you think about it though this isn't a fight scene. It's a massacre!
Now this guy has some balls. Such strength of character is so hard to find. Best movie ever made!
For those that are griping about it, though it is not obvious in the Film, in the original Graphic Novel V was experimented on. He was granted superhuman reflexes, speed, strength, durability, as well as incredible immunity system and healing factor (no not like wolverine, but stronger then a human by far). This is what granted him the ability to facetank so many bullets, and still keep going- only dieing afterward. That and of course his inhuman willpower he had before the experimentation.
I look forward to watching this film again next month. I make it a habit to watch it every 5th November.
One of the most awesome choreographed fight scenes ever!
OOOhhhh....my favorite scene of the whole movie, with one of the best quotations I've ever heard: "Beneath this mask, there's more than flesh. Beneath this mask...there's an idea, Mr Creedy. And ideas are bulletproof!" I really LOVE this scene!
V for Vendetta truly defines the idea of never bringing a knife into a gun fight.
Beneath this scene, there is a movie...and movies are bulletproof.
If there ever is a zombie apocalypse, I want this guy on my side.
True mastery.
I haven't cried this much or been so inspired while watching a film since I was about four.
"My turn." Those two words spoken by Hugo Weaving are just so damn epic.
Considering this was all done in bullet time, this means he did all this in well under a minute.
Easily one of the best movies ever made and if this is not up in the top most epic final fight scenes of all time I'm not sure what makes a good movie anymore.
I wouldn't mind having this man in my corner - he is fearless, compassionate, sensitive and is so logical.
Most fucking badass scene ever
This is one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen.
V is just one of the best anti-heroes of comickbook history.Him,Spawn and The Crow are my favourites.
"And idea's Mr. Creedy, are bulletproof" Amazing, even in the face of death he is a gentleman
And...
it's all just in the voice.
Hugo Weaving is so brilliant. He elevates every movie he's in.
The only thing we have in common Mr.creedy is we're both about to die...just badass! Simply sexy and badass
"And ideas are bullet-proofs". Best line ever.
"No, what you have are bullets. And the hope that when your guns are empty I'm no longer standing, because if I am...
You'll all be dead before you've reloaded."
And then he proceeded to demonstrate said claim. Epicly.
but one of them did reload
@@YSleepish Two of them if you count Creedy. But he took them all out after eating, like, 300 bullets, plus he choked the life out of Creedy, which was highly satisfying to watch. We so much need V now, if anything just to get us to the bad guys molesting us for two years. We can do the rest.
@@bmsuperstar1 yeah scene was great but he still capped
I agree. Of all the movies i've seen about revolution and freedom, this one hit me hard. Pure accurate as to what's happening in today's world.
I can't hep but think of Iron Man when V says "my turn."
Creedy: "Now that that's done with...it's time to have a look at your face. Take off your mask."
V- "NO!" (with such defiance)
one of the greatest movie scenes in HISTORY.
the fact the movie has him have a vest, but it doesnt mean he is impervious to bullets, they still hit him is such a great detail
It was even primitive metallic breast plate and not a modern day bulletproof vest so it basically did nothing to protect him.
@@sam-kx3ty Depend. Assuming they were using hollowpoints (likely since they assumed him unarmoured), much of the impact would have been absorbed with the remaining shrapnel not being immediately lethal. Honestly, Mr Creedy's pistol probably dealt the most damage both in terms of bullet type and because he got an extra volley off into the already fully compromised plate.
Regardless of what his armor was made of, he was hit by over 150 bullets (10 shooters with mostly modified Beretta 92's, plus the leader guy with 12 shots from his wheel gun). Laws of averages are that some of them will find unarmored spots.
the acting in this movie is really good. the actor who plays "V" is a highly skilled actor.
After he gets shot about 100 times he can still own everybody.V is awesome.
No doubt one of movie-historys most EPIC scenes
As the saying goes,
“It’s faster to switch to your secondary weapon, rather than reload.”
-Sun Tzu maybe.
The closing scene makes me cry, because it's a dream all down-trodden British people desperately hope for! Governments should never give a country's citizens...nothing left to lose!
"The only thing we hav in common is we are both about to die", that has got to be one of the most badass lines in movie history. We all die, but not all of us get to say something so incredible and spine chilling to an evil person before we take them with us.
Every man dies. Not every man truly lives.
This made me cry too. And yet, it was a fitting ending for V that led to the terrific ending of the movie.
"My turn." The perfect line to start off with for what takes place after it is said.
Aside of all the symbolic movie stuff, the fact that the fight takes place in closed quarters, in near darkness means that regardless of how many guys he takes on he has the advantage of tactical speed. So even knifes beat guns in this one, at least for a while.
Still a cinematic masterpiece.
'And ideas are bulletproof... Mr Anderson'
(couldn't resist)
Everything V says is badass! Even when he says "no." it's badass.
this is such a sweet fight scene i love it... they should make a game out of this
He has about fifty holes in him but he still has the strength to lift a man with one arm, what a boss!
My favorite line is "No." After Creedy tells him to take off his mask. There was such defiance in it.
when he said "My turn", he sounds soooooooooo sexy with that husky voice.. :p
Great scene, great movie. I've read the graphic novel too and it was even more dark and gritty posing an alternative world to the one we know today very well. I think as a film adaptation this was excellent even though this scene doesn't happen in the movie it does justify the action/violence aspect of a thriller, so in a way it keeps faithful to the genre.
This movie should've really alerted a lot of people, looking back at the past 2 years.
Holy fucking hell! That was by far the greatest beat down I've seen in my entire life. Thank you so much for putting this video on youtube.
I never noticed that his blood stain, when he leans against the wall, is a V. Learn something new every time I watch this.
You know what's frightening: the fact that he pulls out that body armour lot of bullet holes and blood and you automatically realize the blatant fate of this main character.
I fell in love with this movie as a child....I am now in my late 20s.
this movie ALWAYS gets my heart pumping
This scene is just awesome.
2 guys initially with one that figure 8 motion, then gets the duds on the immediate left and immediate right of Creedy then slaughters 10 more guys in seconds, all together 14 dudes slaughtered with nothing but bloody knifes & fancy Karate gimmicks. This scene is a 10/10!
I I will forever love this movie.
Best part of this move - Cready is also the narrator for Battlefield series. Hearing him as evil and then serious WW 2 documentary guy is great!
honestly when i heard about this movie for the 1st time i though:
oh well another super hero movie...tough life,beath the bad guys, save the world, bang the hot bimbo...
But when i watched it i was blowned to the wall..i watched it twice in a row! Its THAT good !!!
"Ideas, are bulletproof."
Even the blood on the wall makes the V. Amazing
this movie is a definite classic....my new role model
The only video that can make me cry. I think I might have to watch it a couple more times to produce some tears, but this was the saddest part of the movie, for me anyways.
LOL. Great quote. Interesting way to calculate. Merry Christmas!!
This movie is more relevant now than it's ever been
Am I the only one that noticed when he slinks along the wall, his blood makes a 'V' on the wall? Soooo cool!
"Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask, Mr. Creedy, there is an idea- and ideas are bulletproof."
"Beneath this mask is more than flesh. Beneath this mask is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are BULLEPROOF!"
Behind this mask there is an idea Mr.Creedy and ideas are bulletproof
this, 300, and shoot em up are my favorite action movies
Hugo Weaving should have gotten an Oscar nomination for this.
Notice how in the end he stains the wall with his blood in the letter V. Truly epic.
I like how the blood and the trail of the knives looks so much like it's out of a game.
thats the epic about him ,, he wants them to fear him and their people he wants them to know what he wants , what they did to him was monstrous , so they created a monster, and his speechs , ARE AWESOME !
When Creedy asked "How do you think we're both going to die?" I thought maybe V for unveil a bomb vest. That would have been the most efficient way.
Most badass scene in movie history.
Ideas are bulletproof,damn right.
This clip has 17 years in 2023... damn.
A man may die nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on.
@leverbart Actually, the metal vest decreased the bullet speed right before entering in his body. He had alot of strength, so this could be possible but probability is slim, but still possible. The only thing what is impossible is to have the strength to break creedy's neck!! It's still one of the best movies i've ever seen!!! every year i plan to watch this movie on 5 of november which will occur in a few days :) So i can remember the awesomeness of that movie
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