Merry Christmas everybody!!!!!! Hey Gold and Gunpowder , thank you for the video , it's the best Christmas gift me and my fellow viewers could have. And here's my Christmas gift to you (the best pirate meme so far) : The Governor of Nassau speaking to one of his advisors : Hey, I smell something🤨........a kinda smelly smell🤨.........a smelly smell that smells......smelly🤨......Oh no......pirates!!!😨😰 His advisor : What ???🤨 The Governor : PIRATES!!!!!!!😱 (And he was right , an entire fleet of pirate ships arrives) The pirates : AAAAAARGH AAAAAARGH YO HO HO YO HO HO AAAAAAARGH YO HO HO AND A BOTTLE OF RUM!!!!!!!!!🥳🥳🥳🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️☠☠☠ The Governor and his advisor : NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
Agreed, with time he will- there’s nowhere else on RUclips with this back catalogue of specialized pirate-centered history content. As people search for answers and education over the years, he’ll keep coming up
I always understood the tallest mast was the main mast. So a brig had a formats forward and a tall main, while a ketch had a mainmast forward and a smaller mizzenmast mast aft.
Its refreshing to find out actual facts i watched the pirate kingdom on Netflix seems they just went with common lore because they say what everyone else on the web and wikipedia says,so glad to have someone cut through the bull $h!+ and give it to me straight to the best of their ability to keep it as accurate as they can and showing sources for the info , outstanding work thanks again
i do have to say my preferred ship of these is the brigantine, the best looking in my opinion... however the sloop of war would be my choice by if available
Great video as always! I love the type of ships of this era, it gives more flavor to an already compelling historical era. I think a video on cannons might be a good topic, the differing “pounders” used and how they were applied by pirates and privateers. It’s always been my understanding that smaller cannons found on sloops and small brigs were used to clear out decks as you mentioned, as guns were as small as firing half pound cannon balls. 12 and 18 pounders seemed rare and exclusive to the pirates fortunate enough to be able to sail tall ships and Man O Wars. I have two questions, I don’t need both to be answered though. 1. How did Merchant ships adapt to the pirate threat between 1650-1730? Did the strategies of the merchant navy change at all, or did the response to pirates fall exclusively to the Navy, who successfully had largely driven the pirates away by the 1730’s 2. If the Black Pearl were real, how would it fare as an actual pirate ship in the West Indies and Africa? 32 12 pounders puts it at a superior armament to the HMS Scarborough for reference, so it seems like it would be an extremely formidable opponent had it been real
"Man O' War" just means "Warship", or any vessel equipped to fight other vessels. It is NOT a specific ship type. Merchants were seldom given sufficient resources to fight back pirates. Their crews were typically small, and their armament was usually of the same quality as pirates. Their best chance to beat back pirates was to fight from closed quarters, which I describe in my video on boarding combat.
Hi. This is a great video overall. I like how you actually want your viewers to understand the topic you like so much. Your videos always have a lot of details which I personally really appreciate. So thank you and please continue making videos. Your explaining style is great and I learnt a lot from you. ❤
Enjoyed the video as always mate! I've been aboard almost a dozen tall ships of various types. They are all replicas of a historic ships or a type of ship. Everything from the Nao Santa Maria, Sloop of War USS Constellation, Royal Navy Frigate HMS Rose and the Privateer Schooner USS Lynx. I have never been on a replica of a Brigantine or Brig. I don't think there are too many of them out there! One of my fellow pirates here in St Augustine FL has a 70 ft long wooden schooner that he is transforming into a Pirate ship called "Revenge". I think he plans on having replica cannons on it once all the wood restoration is completed! Lol! I have a deep appreciation on how much work it takes to keep a wooden ship sailing!
If you want to take a trip to see well preserved brig .. take a look at USS Niagara. And Brigantine was the one called Eye of the wind i believe. Red sails, for-and-aft main sail with gallants. And theres couple more.
Hello and Merry Christmas, I watch your videos from Mexico. Thanks for making this kind of content, I'm writing a novel about pirates and I want to make it realistic, your videos help me a lot because they are well documented, you deserve more subscribers.
Really glad I found this channel. Do you focus at all on the Barbary pirate kingdoms? That's a fascinating bit of history. There were even European pirates such as Jack Ward (English) and Zymen Danseker (Dutch) who became powerful Barbary corsairs in their own right. Jack Ward even converted to Islam and managed to live out his days in opulence in Tunis, living till the then-ripe old age of 70.
I only cover european colonial sea rovers between 1630-1730 on this channel but I might cover the Barbary states on my secondary channel which covers broader European naval history
How thick were the hulls of sloops and ships because obviously a round ball would have poor penetration but the fact that they would almost never go through the hull is very surprising
I would think actual penetration was rare, dependent on the type of wood used and its thickness. The thicker the planks, or even double-planked, the stronger, but also heavier. You could expect a round shot fired from a larger cannon to at least fracture the planks, and water pressure below the waterline would mean a serious leak. From what I've read, the most common tactic, by either military or pirate vessel, was to concentrate fire on the rigging and the decks, using chain shot and small shot, like a shotgun vs. a rifle. You want to disable your opponent's crew as quickly as possible, saving casualties when boarding. Obviously, if the ship's dismasted, even partially, its ability to maneuver or escape is severely compromised. Even military vessels would rather capture an opponent's ship than sink it. British naval captains/crews who captured an enemy ship would receive a bonus for bringing it in. Look how many ships mentioned in these videos started out belonging to one country and ended up belonging to another, Lighter/smaller vessels would be vulnerable to hull penetration from a larger antagonist. If you had a sloop, you weren't going to slug it out with a frigate. Naval combat tactics changed as technology changed. Nothing different from today, really.
I came here for this comment. Great video too, I love this channel. Sea of Thieves got me back into pirate stuff. I also occasionally listen to Captain Dan and the Scurvy Crew :)
Hello there, and amazing informative video as always. I do have one question, however. Were ships like the Full-Rigged Pinnace used by pirates? They were prevalent in the americas during the 17th century and have a resemblance of the more famed galleon ship type, but was lighter built and likely would've been fast.
i've seen them mentioned in nonfiction litrature but i've not encountered any specific examples of pinnaces being used in the west indies so i cant say, they seem to have been used more in europe
Pinnaces were not used as pirate ships for a simple reason. They were post ships, convoy ships, Messengers. I dont recall any report about pinnace being captured by pirates, lost or used as p.ship. i can be wrong, but i really dont recall any information suporting this idea. And Pinnaces are very interesting ships from dutch history with a uninteresting history of usage and combat. Sometimes, if p.captain got lucky, he might get his hands on Cromster. That was also small ship, race-galleon build hull and sprit-sail rigging or there Is mentioned a Cromster with full ship-rig in Bahama Banks Area history from golden age of piracy. But those sources are So rare that i wouldnt bet on them. :/ But might be true. In US museum there Is a Guy who Worked as a diver. And they saw some physical evidence (not only charts and mentions in documents) that looked like cromsters fully ship-rigged. But those excavations are still being processed.
@@deansch6089 too complicated answer. I'll keep it easy. 16-17th cent. There officialy were no brigs. Those (by modern terminology) came to existence in early 18th cent. But...there were all kind of sloops, corvettes, flyuts and brigantines. For ex brigantine around 200 tons of displ. would have 3m draft. But...what you put in, how you arm her, what wood and how many planking layers will be used, that all combined might increase or decrease the draft. And sailing qualities ofc.
@@deansch6089 And i found a perfect example of old classic brigantine of 17th cent. Fore-mast square-rigged, main-mast gaff-rigged+single top sq.sail...cca 150tons 40m loa 7m Beam 2.7 draft .... Hope it helps you.
It’s time to debunk the myths and stereotypes of the pirate brigantine. Of course, I’m looking at you Captain Edward Kenway and your over glorified Jackdaw!
That's a actually not true a brigantine is a two masted ship were the fore mast is square rigged and the back main mast has a square topsail and a spanker mainsail. A brigantine is not a 2 masted ship with ONLY square sails
actually large pirate ships like Royal Fortune, Queen anne's revenge and Fancy had cannons large enough to attack ships. but most pirate ships where small so the cannons could not have pierced through hulls. what you see in movies and video games are not pure fantasy. So you are half correct and half wrong
no i am not wrong lmao, the guns aboard the QAR were no heavier than 6 pounders which cant pierce a hull, neither were the guns aboard the royal fortune(which one) any heavier
Than you for being a historical source on piracy that's... Oh, I don't know *ACTUALLY RELIABLE.* I watched your pirate myths video and I can't help but be unreasonably angry with people who perpetuate that flavor of bullshit.
depends on the size of the individual boat and the usage of the vessel, those that were used for trading could have like maybe 3-6 crewmen whereas a sea roving vessel would require much more since it was usually rowed
@@GoldandGunpowder Ah, thanks. I also wonder, how big was a schooner? Were they about the same length as double-shallops, or closer in size to a sloop?
You have exchanged brig fór brigantine And the other way around. Brigantine term including hermafrodit brig theese days Is the one with for and aft main sail. Brig Is the one fully square rigged with a spanker. Similar to the Snow.
And there are classes like brig-sloop, sloop-of-war, brig, brigantine and so on, which are different from each other. Its a bit confusing puting them all together. However Its a very good and nice video. Your sources could ve better, but the way you present it .... You could sell shoes to a legless guy.... Very captivating and beatyful pronounciation. Thank you!
Since I already know that Galleons were NEVER commandeered by pirates, the Brig and Brigantine could already be my favorite pirate ship. Not too small as the sloop to not have enough space for cargo, and not too big as the Man O'War to be extremely hard to control. Perfect size for a sailor. Just wondering if a modern sailor could buy one of these sailboats. You could still see Sloops at the harbor sailing to this day. I have also seen a schooner. I'm wondering if Brigs still exist.
they do indeed still exist! brigs like the tres hombres operate as shipping vessels to this day. the phoenix and niagara are two more extant examples, though both are replicas of ships dating far later than the golden age of sea roving.
@@phredphlintstone6455 Not technically a galleon, though the Queen Anne's Revenge was indeed a large ship. A galleon is a particular design associated with Spain, with IIRC high stern and sometimes bow "castles". Blackbeard's flagship was a ship, originally English and then captured by the French and used as a slaver, but said by one witness to be built in a Dutch style (a Fluyt?). The QAR was definitely big though, comparable in size to a navy frigate. A handful of other pirates reportedly commanded similarly sized vessels, including Henry Every, William Kidd, Sam Bellamy, Bartholomew Roberts, Olivier Levasseur, and possibly Benjamin Hornigold. Roberts' Royal Fortune appears to have been the most powerful, with 52 guns, as per Wikipedia (the QAR had 40, though the size of the guns also matters- a ship with 20 twelve pounders would be packing the same punch as a ship with 40 six pounders).
@@GoldandGunpowder I left out a part of what I was gonna say, sorry about that, but to elaborate on what i was gonna say two masted square rigged brigs had a fore mast and a main mast the main mast would be located behind the fore mast and would be taller and have larger sails on it and would typically carry the main sail, smaller two masted boats would have a the main mast in the front as it was the larger mast and carried the main sail, and a mizzenmast in the back carrying a gaff sail or lateen style sail if you looking at the pirate era, I was mainly speaking of square riggers sorry I left that out lol
@@GoldandGunpowder so generally which mast was the main mast would depend upon how it’s rigged,which mast is taller,carry’s the most sail area,and if it carry’s the main sail. But I’m being picky sorry also I’d love to say how much I like your content I’ve studied naval history mainly the 17th, 18th, and the early 19th century’s for about 12 years now I’ve spoken with historians and professors alike, So I know there’s lots of different sources the say different things and the hours it takes to get all the info together to do a video like this, but cheers and happy holidays to you sir.
Wikipedia isn’t actually as unreliable as people think. My former history teacher and a few other teachers at my old high school wanted to test how reliable it is so the logged in and changed an article to something that wasn’t true and when they logged in about an hour later someone had corrected it. Wikipedia isn’t by any means a 100% reliable source but it gets a lot of bad reputation from something that isn’t as true anymore
Most of the pirate articles are shite, unreliable, or spread blatant, uncited lies, like Blackbeard being the Magistrate of New Providence or the flag with crossed swords being used by actual pirates. Aside from that, Wikipedia lacks nuance and it usually doesn't respect the context of different time periods
Really interesting but frustrating to see you, with your confident and reliable knowledge, contradicting yourself throughout your own video. Examples: "Brigantines only had square sails", yet several times you show brigantines with a gaff sail and even jibs... which you don't even mention or describe. Also, some had some kind of for-and-aft sail or sails between the masts. You also show some brigantines clearly with a third mast! If your images do not correspond to what you're currently describing, then why confuse us?
okay im like 80% sure on this because i know the wiki says the jackdaw is a brig but i have played the absolute shit out of ac4 and i am positive that its deck is the same deck used by frigates in game so i am almost positive that the jackdaw is supposed to be a frigate with a ram and not a brig. this hardly matters to the video but your smug confidence made me feel obligated to call you out on something Edit: also im in the middle of replaying it rn and distinctly remember edward calling it a frigate at some point
assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Jackdaw "The Jackdaw was a brig captained by the pirate-turned-Assassin Edward Kenway, which he obtained with the help of Adéwalé, during the Golden Age of Piracy in the Caribbean."
@@GoldandGunpowder okay i just opened the game and attacked a brig to compare because fandom isnt worth shit as a source for anything and yeah they're exactly the same whoops thats egg on my face
Merry Christmas everybody!!!!!! Hey Gold and Gunpowder , thank you for the video , it's the best Christmas gift me and my fellow viewers could have. And here's my Christmas gift to you (the best pirate meme so far) :
The Governor of Nassau speaking to one of his advisors : Hey, I smell something🤨........a kinda smelly smell🤨.........a smelly smell that smells......smelly🤨......Oh no......pirates!!!😨😰
His advisor : What ???🤨
The Governor : PIRATES!!!!!!!😱
(And he was right , an entire fleet of pirate ships arrives)
The pirates : AAAAAARGH AAAAAARGH YO HO HO YO HO HO AAAAAAARGH YO HO HO AND A BOTTLE OF RUM!!!!!!!!!🥳🥳🥳🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️☠☠☠
The Governor and his advisor : NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
This and last video’s meme has me the urge to animate them
Merry Christmas to you to sailer
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This guy needs way more subscribers. He has so much good quality content.
Agreed
Understatement
Agreed, with time he will- there’s nowhere else on RUclips with this back catalogue of specialized pirate-centered history content. As people search for answers and education over the years, he’ll keep coming up
I just clicked on one of his videos and I didn't look at the sub count. I thought he had atleast 300k subs.
A year later and I'm binge watching his content....
I always understood the tallest mast was the main mast. So a brig had a formats forward and a tall main, while a ketch had a mainmast forward and a smaller mizzenmast mast aft.
Its refreshing to find out actual facts i watched the pirate kingdom on Netflix seems they just went with common lore because they say what everyone else on the web and wikipedia says,so glad to have someone cut through the bull $h!+ and give it to me straight to the best of their ability to keep it as accurate as they can and showing sources for the info , outstanding work thanks again
i do have to say my preferred ship of these is the brigantine, the best looking in my opinion... however the sloop of war would be my choice by if available
I find that finding an accurate picture of a Manila Galleon as a total pain, especially the Santísima Trinidad of 1751.
New follower here. Your research are well done! Thanks a lot. I'm learning so much!
Great video as always! I love the type of ships of this era, it gives more flavor to an already compelling historical era. I think a video on cannons might be a good topic, the differing “pounders” used and how they were applied by pirates and privateers. It’s always been my understanding that smaller cannons found on sloops and small brigs were used to clear out decks as you mentioned, as guns were as small as firing half pound cannon balls. 12 and 18 pounders seemed rare and exclusive to the pirates fortunate enough to be able to sail tall ships and Man O Wars.
I have two questions, I don’t need both to be answered though.
1. How did Merchant ships adapt to the pirate threat between 1650-1730? Did the strategies of the merchant navy change at all, or did the response to pirates fall exclusively to the Navy, who successfully had largely driven the pirates away by the 1730’s
2. If the Black Pearl were real, how would it fare as an actual pirate ship in the West Indies and Africa? 32 12 pounders puts it at a superior armament to the HMS Scarborough for reference, so it seems like it would be an extremely formidable opponent had it been real
"Man O' War" just means "Warship", or any vessel equipped to fight other vessels. It is NOT a specific ship type.
Merchants were seldom given sufficient resources to fight back pirates. Their crews were typically small, and their armament was usually of the same quality as pirates. Their best chance to beat back pirates was to fight from closed quarters, which I describe in my video on boarding combat.
Hi. This is a great video overall. I like how you actually want your viewers to understand the topic you like so much. Your videos always have a lot of details which I personally really appreciate. So thank you and please continue making videos. Your explaining style is great and I learnt a lot from you. ❤
Enjoyed the video as always mate! I've been aboard almost a dozen tall ships of various types. They are all replicas of a historic ships or a type of ship. Everything from the Nao Santa Maria, Sloop of War USS Constellation, Royal Navy Frigate HMS Rose and the Privateer Schooner USS Lynx. I have never been on a replica of a Brigantine or Brig. I don't think there are too many of them out there! One of my fellow pirates here in St Augustine FL has a 70 ft long wooden schooner that he is transforming into a Pirate ship called "Revenge". I think he plans on having replica cannons on it once all the wood restoration is completed! Lol! I have a deep appreciation on how much work it takes to keep a wooden ship sailing!
If you want to take a trip to see well preserved brig .. take a look at USS Niagara.
And Brigantine was the one called Eye of the wind i believe. Red sails, for-and-aft main sail with gallants. And theres couple more.
Hello and Merry Christmas, I watch your videos from Mexico. Thanks for making this kind of content, I'm writing a novel about pirates and I want to make it realistic, your videos help me a lot because they are well documented, you deserve more subscribers.
Hola paisano, como le va!
Book about golden age of piracy?
@@drake3116 yes
@@silverkenji cool! I Hope you Finish it and send it over great lake as soon as possible ;) 👍
@@drake3116 thank you
While all the family opens Christmas things, I will be sitting in the corner, hiding an earbud and smiling, because this will be in my ear. Huzzah!
Thats sad
Awesome channel. Modern day pirate souls here.
Merry Christmas and a bottle of Rum
Such an awesome channel, deserves more subs
Just found this channel when I looking buy the NFT for the Pirates of Arrland game. Nice info. Thx
Really glad I found this channel. Do you focus at all on the Barbary pirate kingdoms? That's a fascinating bit of history. There were even European pirates such as Jack Ward (English) and Zymen Danseker (Dutch) who became powerful Barbary corsairs in their own right. Jack Ward even converted to Islam and managed to live out his days in opulence in Tunis, living till the then-ripe old age of 70.
I only cover european colonial sea rovers between 1630-1730 on this channel but I might cover the Barbary states on my secondary channel which covers broader European naval history
@@GoldandGunpowder Good to know, thanks for your reply!
thank you. I love tall ships but that has been confusing subject for a very long time.
Imagine being alive back then ! The smell of death !,blood ,fire,smoke the stench smell of war !
How thick were the hulls of sloops and ships because obviously a round ball would have poor penetration but the fact that they would almost never go through the hull is very surprising
Im not sure
I would think actual penetration was rare, dependent on the type of wood used and its thickness. The thicker the planks, or even double-planked, the stronger, but also heavier. You could expect a round shot fired from a larger cannon to at least fracture the planks, and water pressure below the waterline would mean a serious leak. From what I've read, the most common tactic, by either military or pirate vessel, was to concentrate fire on the rigging and the decks, using chain shot and small shot, like a shotgun vs. a rifle. You want to disable your opponent's crew as quickly as possible, saving casualties when boarding. Obviously, if the ship's dismasted, even partially, its ability to maneuver or escape is severely compromised. Even military vessels would rather capture an opponent's ship than sink it. British naval captains/crews who captured an enemy ship would receive a bonus for bringing it in. Look how many ships mentioned in these videos started out belonging to one country and ended up belonging to another, Lighter/smaller vessels would be vulnerable to hull penetration from a larger antagonist. If you had a sloop, you weren't going to slug it out with a frigate. Naval combat tactics changed as technology changed. Nothing different from today, really.
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I came here for this comment. Great video too, I love this channel. Sea of Thieves got me back into pirate stuff. I also occasionally listen to Captain Dan and the Scurvy Crew :)
indeed, and btw quite fitting to the topic too :)
Nice one Happy. Love to see you guys on Twitch. 🤟
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ho ho ho I got a bottle o' rum in my christmas present
6:25 cute ship
Super excited
Yeah, this much better..
Did the schooner existed during the GASR period?
yes early 1700s
Hello there, and amazing informative video as always. I do have one question, however. Were ships like the Full-Rigged Pinnace used by pirates? They were prevalent in the americas during the 17th century and have a resemblance of the more famed galleon ship type, but was lighter built and likely would've been fast.
i've seen them mentioned in nonfiction litrature but i've not encountered any specific examples of pinnaces being used in the west indies so i cant say, they seem to have been used more in europe
Pinnaces were not used as pirate ships for a simple reason. They were post ships, convoy ships, Messengers. I dont recall any report about pinnace being captured by pirates, lost or used as p.ship. i can be wrong, but i really dont recall any information suporting this idea. And Pinnaces are very interesting ships from dutch history with a uninteresting history of usage and combat.
Sometimes, if p.captain got lucky, he might get his hands on Cromster. That was also small ship, race-galleon build hull and sprit-sail rigging or there Is mentioned a Cromster with full ship-rig in Bahama Banks Area history from golden age of piracy.
But those sources are So rare that i wouldnt bet on them. :/
But might be true. In US museum there Is a Guy who Worked as a diver. And they saw some physical evidence (not only charts and mentions in documents) that looked like cromsters fully ship-rigged. But those excavations are still being processed.
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Another excellent video. What would a typical draft be on a brig? And what kind of speed would she be able to sail?
sadly i haven't encountered statistics for either of those
It depends on the age that you are asking about .. ancient, aoe, Middle, aos, aost?
@@drake3116 I was thinking 1600s/1700s AD
@@deansch6089 too complicated answer. I'll keep it easy.
16-17th cent. There officialy were no brigs. Those (by modern terminology) came to existence in early 18th cent.
But...there were all kind of sloops, corvettes, flyuts and brigantines.
For ex brigantine around 200 tons of displ. would have 3m draft. But...what you put in, how you arm her, what wood and how many planking layers will be used, that all combined might increase or decrease the draft. And sailing qualities ofc.
@@deansch6089 And i found a perfect example of old classic brigantine of 17th cent.
Fore-mast square-rigged, main-mast gaff-rigged+single top sq.sail...cca
150tons
40m loa
7m Beam
2.7 draft
.... Hope it helps you.
It’s time to debunk the myths and stereotypes of the pirate brigantine. Of course, I’m looking at you Captain Edward Kenway and your over glorified Jackdaw!
aye
Video game mechanics aside, no ship that size should be trading broadsides with first rates and coming away intact.
That's a actually not true a brigantine is a two masted ship were the fore mast is square rigged and the back main mast has a square topsail and a spanker mainsail. A brigantine is not a 2 masted ship with ONLY square sails
The main mast is always the tallest. So on the brig example itd be the aft mast. Mizzen mast only w three
Masted vessel.
Typically schoomers/yawls
Dear Gold and gunpowder,
What type ofships or sinds when ships have keel?
Thank you in advance.
actually large pirate ships like Royal Fortune, Queen anne's revenge and Fancy had cannons large enough to attack ships. but most pirate ships where small so the cannons could not have pierced through hulls. what you see in movies and video games are not pure fantasy. So you are half correct and half wrong
no i am not wrong lmao, the guns aboard the QAR were no heavier than 6 pounders which cant pierce a hull, neither were the guns aboard the royal fortune(which one) any heavier
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Sails Spanish rigging captain 😄🤣
She's a brig
Very nice video.
However,
The e in "Barque" is silent. :)
Werent there also 3 masted Barque longues? Like the La Belle?
Than you for being a historical source on piracy that's... Oh, I don't know *ACTUALLY RELIABLE.* I watched your pirate myths video and I can't help but be unreasonably angry with people who perpetuate that flavor of bullshit.
How many people minimum would be needed to run a Barque-Longue type ship?
depends on the size of the individual boat and the usage of the vessel, those that were used for trading could have like maybe 3-6 crewmen whereas a sea roving vessel would require much more since it was usually rowed
how about schooners for pirates then?
Would schooners also fall under the "double shallop" family or were they more of their own thing?
IIRC schooners didn't use any square sails, and i'm not sure how often they were used with oars
@@GoldandGunpowder Ah, thanks. I also wonder, how big was a schooner? Were they about the same length as double-shallops, or closer in size to a sloop?
all ships varied in size
@@GoldandGunpowder With that in mind, is there any range that you would estimate for the length of the average sailing vessel?
10-20 m
#2
I'm curious about schooners now but they don't seem to have been all that common in the period.
You're wrong
My source? I made it the fuck up!
You have exchanged brig fór brigantine And the other way around. Brigantine term including hermafrodit brig theese days Is the one with for and aft main sail. Brig Is the one fully square rigged with a spanker. Similar to the Snow.
And the mainmast on brigs, brigantines, Snows and schooners Is actually is the aft one. Not the front one.
Brigantine and Corvette are two different ships. Corvette Is three masted and very closely related to the british sloop-of-war.
And there are classes like brig-sloop, sloop-of-war, brig, brigantine and so on, which are different from each other. Its a bit confusing puting them all together. However Its a very good and nice video. Your sources could ve better, but the way you present it .... You could sell shoes to a legless guy.... Very captivating and beatyful pronounciation. Thank you!
And sometimes u use pronounces and terms from different eras. While those terms has changed their meaning as the time went on.
Source: british Royal navy museum.
For start
My favorite sailship
How thick would the hull on your average brig be? I'm working on a mod for a video game.
I know a lot about Pirate Ships.
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@@GoldandGunpowder Indeed.
@@GoldandGunpowder and by downloading them
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@@GoldandGunpowder hahah
Since I already know that Galleons were NEVER commandeered by pirates, the Brig and Brigantine could already be my favorite pirate ship. Not too small as the sloop to not have enough space for cargo, and not too big as the Man O'War to be extremely hard to control. Perfect size for a sailor. Just wondering if a modern sailor could buy one of these sailboats. You could still see Sloops at the harbor sailing to this day. I have also seen a schooner. I'm wondering if Brigs still exist.
they do indeed still exist! brigs like the tres hombres operate as shipping vessels to this day. the phoenix and niagara are two more extant examples, though both are replicas of ships dating far later than the golden age of sea roving.
Didn't Blackbeard use a Galion for a while?
like i said in the video, some sloops were bigger than some brigantines - the difference lies purely in the rigging
@@phredphlintstone6455 Not technically a galleon, though the Queen Anne's Revenge was indeed a large ship. A galleon is a particular design associated with Spain, with IIRC high stern and sometimes bow "castles". Blackbeard's flagship was a ship, originally English and then captured by the French and used as a slaver, but said by one witness to be built in a Dutch style (a Fluyt?). The QAR was definitely big though, comparable in size to a navy frigate. A handful of other pirates reportedly commanded similarly sized vessels, including Henry Every, William Kidd, Sam Bellamy, Bartholomew Roberts, Olivier Levasseur, and possibly Benjamin Hornigold. Roberts' Royal Fortune appears to have been the most powerful, with 52 guns, as per Wikipedia (the QAR had 40, though the size of the guns also matters- a ship with 20 twelve pounders would be packing the same punch as a ship with 40 six pounders).
I saw a brig at one of the few harbours near my home
The brig has fallen. Millions must drown
What about a ketch? Idk if it's actually real
yeah i'll cover it eventually fairly interesting vessel
@@GoldandGunpowder thx
@@GoldandGunpowder I feel it's a really under appreciated vessel since it has a unique layout that makes it stand out.
Do you have anything on the ship type called a snow
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I think you should join Nebula
two masted ships had a fore and mainmast but no mizzen, the mizzen masts were the aftmost mast on a three master :)
No, according to my sources(listed in the video description), it is as I said in the video.
@@GoldandGunpowder I left out a part of what I was gonna say, sorry about that, but to elaborate on what i was gonna say two masted square rigged brigs had a fore mast and a main mast the main mast would be located behind the fore mast and would be taller and have larger sails on it and would typically carry the main sail, smaller two masted boats would have a the main mast in the front as it was the larger mast and carried the main sail, and a mizzenmast in the back carrying a gaff sail or lateen style sail if you looking at the pirate era, I was mainly speaking of square riggers sorry I left that out lol
@@GoldandGunpowder so generally which mast was the main mast would depend upon how it’s rigged,which mast is taller,carry’s the most sail area,and if it carry’s the main sail. But I’m being picky sorry also I’d love to say how much I like your content I’ve studied naval history mainly the 17th, 18th, and the early 19th century’s for about 12 years now I’ve spoken with historians and professors alike, So I know there’s lots of different sources the say different things and the hours it takes to get all the info together to do a video like this, but cheers and happy holidays to you sir.
Yes but he used confusing pictures to describe it. And mixed more than one Era in one topic without specifying it. Hence the misunderstanding.
Ive come to the realization that, the Sea of Thieves Brigantine is the most accurate ship of the game-
Wikipedia isn’t actually as unreliable as people think. My former history teacher and a few other teachers at my old high school wanted to test how reliable it is so the logged in and changed an article to something that wasn’t true and when they logged in about an hour later someone had corrected it. Wikipedia isn’t by any means a 100% reliable source but it gets a lot of bad reputation from something that isn’t as true anymore
Most of the pirate articles are shite, unreliable, or spread blatant, uncited lies, like Blackbeard being the Magistrate of New Providence or the flag with crossed swords being used by actual pirates. Aside from that, Wikipedia lacks nuance and it usually doesn't respect the context of different time periods
Really interesting but frustrating to see you, with your confident and reliable knowledge, contradicting yourself throughout your own video. Examples: "Brigantines only had square sails", yet several times you show brigantines with a gaff sail and even jibs... which you don't even mention or describe. Also, some had some kind of for-and-aft sail or sails between the masts. You also show some brigantines clearly with a third mast! If your images do not correspond to what you're currently describing, then why confuse us?
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Gender fluid pirates
okay im like 80% sure on this because i know the wiki says the jackdaw is a brig but i have played the absolute shit out of ac4 and i am positive that its deck is the same deck used by frigates in game so i am almost positive that the jackdaw is supposed to be a frigate with a ram and not a brig. this hardly matters to the video but your smug confidence made me feel obligated to call you out on something
Edit: also im in the middle of replaying it rn and distinctly remember edward calling it a frigate at some point
assassinscreed.fandom.com/wiki/Jackdaw
"The Jackdaw was a brig captained by the pirate-turned-Assassin Edward Kenway, which he obtained with the help of Adéwalé, during the Golden Age of Piracy in the Caribbean."
Jackdaw: static.wikia.nocookie.net/assassinscreed/images/a/a5/AC_Twelve_Trials_Black_Flag_Q2_Jackdaw.png/revision/latest?cb=20220802134241
English brig: cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/000/012/698/large/AC4BF_Brig_s03_Greyson.jpg?1400185426
Frigate: i.ytimg.com/vi/it9jQ44kSCU/maxresdefault.jpg
@@GoldandGunpowder okay i just opened the game and attacked a brig to compare because fandom isnt worth shit as a source for anything and yeah they're exactly the same whoops thats egg on my face
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