the only thing turning me away is the sbmm, it’s crazy. i can’t even remember the last time that i felt like i was the best player in the lobby and didn’t need to absolutely sweat my cheeks off just to end up with a couple of kills. and i’m stuck soloing cause none of my friends wanna play anymore :/
I feel this. Solo casuals like myself - anything outside of mix tape is torture. Get good isn't an option for me. I have a handful of hours in a week to enjoy some video games and I want to have fun doing so.
I totally agree, I've been playing solo since the game dropped & it's just not fun anymore getting sent hard by every player in the lobby all the time, though I don't think the SBMM is the problem as it needs to exist to help balance the lobbies. I think the answer to the problem is to give either give solo players some sort of advantage or pre made squads a disadvantage of some sort seeing as they already have a massive advantage playing back to back games and coms together.
Pubs during 3 strikes was the most fun I’ve had on this game since release. All the sweat three stacks were playing 3 strikes and it reminded me just how fun this game can be. Then the event ended and it immediately became brutal again. It sucks that this is something they have the ability to change but don’t.
It's 100 percent the hidden MMR system. 1:8 lobbies are the ones we should be in. When you do well suddenly you are in pred lobbies getting destroyed (I think in the old system I could maybe get plat if I had the time).
Hidden MMR in ranked is the dumbest thing ever in a game. Literally makes playing ranked pointless. Yeah, let’s make people play against Masters and Preds while trying to get out of Silver. Makes a ton of sense. But if you suck, you will play against other shitty players all the way up through the ranks!!
100% on ranked. This was a game that I've been on consistently since launch. Ranked has been what has kept the game alive for me (Diamond to Masters player depending on the season). I love the competitive gameplay and the goal of reaching higher tier lobbies and truly competitive games makes me come back time and time again. But with these last two seasons, the fact that a Master level player, starting Gold, yet playing in the same lobbies for hours, seeing the same names on the kill feed, same Masters and preds throughout my games as I work my way back up slowly but surely... it's left an incredibly sour taste in my mouth with the thought of this new system not being based on your rank and instead on MMR. Ranked is ranked... and should be based on your rank.
I stopped playing because as a solo player I was getting too toxic. I just got tired of being paired with noobs with the idea that we would balance each other out but really it's like playing with a handicap every game. Nothing against the new players but even when you try to teach them the game they don't listen and my patience was just worn out.
I've been playing Apex for 2 months to the day. The first two games were a great experience. Apex Legends could be a great game. I've gotten 6 kills since then and have been in 1 win. It makes me sick now how hard the game is because I have opponents that have 8000 kills or infinite wins. What am I little light supposed to do about it? I'm being burned against dramatically better opponents, without kills, without victories and without a sense of achievement, I'm not having any fun. I've been playing every day for the last two months, I couldn't bring myself to play yesterday and I can't do it today either. The biggest problem with Apex is that there's no matchmaking, I'm put together with players who have significantly more experience and skill than me. The second biggest problem I see in Apex is that there is no solo mode and no bot lobbies for weaker players. I'm a casual player who works during the day and wants to have some fun in the little free time I have.
Three things turn me away from Apex. Matchmaking is the first, there is no possibility to get a few chill games to recharge before taking on sweat mode. Controller balancing, it's currently meta and I don't like playing controller, combine this with the matchmaking and you got an even worse experience. And the messed up infrastructure, slow servers and bad networking that is messing up my experience by packet loss, placing me in the wrong continents so you get rubber banding and what bot while you play. Lately I even started looking at Fortnite as a valid replacement. I had a year's break from apex where I was enjoying two other games: farlight and bloodhunt, sadly they did not make it, so it's going to be interesting to see if apex corrects their issues or it's just going into memorable mode.
One of the biggest issues is that respawn just doesn’t really add, change, or fix things unless the player numbers really drop. Or better yet, people start spending less money. This game has so many issues that people have been asking for them to address over and over and over and over again. And every time some asks them about one of the issues (audio for example) they either ignore it or say we are aware of it, but that’s it. But once you finally get sick of the game and leave, all of a sudden “hey everyone! Come see these new changes and fixes!” Too late fam. Too late.
For me I stopped playing b/c of the solo Q experience. I'm an above average player and I don't mind facing masters and pred players, but it's the constant 3 stacks I can't stand. I don't blame them but when I down two preds and get killed by the third while both my teammates left after getting knocked, it makes the experience feel helpless and unfair
2 years ago I tried to play Apex first time with a friend but w found ourselves vs high elo so we quit. 2 days ago, we just did the same and again vs high elos and we barely know anything... my friend quit in despair and I'm struggling alone, and I rly find it not fair nor balanced. (im just level 8 now and my friend quit at level7)
Don't forget rewards! Getting any rank, should reward you with something. A weapon skin, character skin, crafting metals, literally anything besides trackers, stickers, banner frames. After ranking all season, all you get is a badge. Spending Hours against the SBMM for 70+ days, just for you to reach Gold, Plat, Diamond, and at the end...a nice pat on the back for suffering for so long. It's crazy to think your only options for "rewards" are in the store.
for me the ONLY reason i play less is because I feel like I'm punished. I'm less than average in terms of skill. I've played Apex for two years- but it was my first competitive FPS ever. So i'm below the skill curve. For the first year I felt insane progress. I saw myself get better and felt rewarded for improving. I got more damage, more kill, more wins. But now it's different. My last win was several MONTHS ago when I had squadded up with players 10x my skill. I have 10 deaths per 1 kill. I have no way to accurately compare my skillset because while I THINK I'm better than last year my stats would tell you that i'm fundamentally worse. I don't mind dying a lot. I've had to have a lot of patience trying to learn competitive FPS games in my 20s since i didn't play them growing up. But I NEVER get rewarded for my discipline and hard work to improve. Every time I touch down in a new match I feel like I'm fodder for all the better players that play Apex for a million hours a day.
It’s literally sbmm. I don’t give a shit about the content or skins or anything else when every single pub match is an ALGS tournament. The game is dying because of sbmm.
I have been playing since day 1 and the last 2 seasons including this one, have been almost unplayable. I have a KD of 1.2 so I’m probably average. I used to get to Platinum mostly and Diamond for only 3 seasons. There has been a huge drop in the player base, so obviously the average player skill has gone up because the better players have stuck around. So average players like me have become the “bad” players and I get straight wrecked repeatedly. Pubs was so much fun when the 3 strikes mode was out, and as soon as it ended all of the Predators came back to pub stomp. Everyone loved that mode. The good players had a place to go to sweat and have crazy fun games and the rest of the player base could relax a little and enjoy pubs for the first time in several seasons. This game is such a CHORE to play now.
It's because of MMR, big brother matchmaking, EOMM, and predatory business practices galore. Apex is a cesspit of corporate greed and players are sick of it.
it’s dying because the matchmaking is bad. it’s trash. and when you get a complete tool for a teammate and you gotta play fake TTVs Horizons and wraiths that use zens and cheat and think they are good. it gets old
The matchmaking is what did it for me, last time I played Apex was maybe February '23. I have also stopped watching some other Apex streamers. Still here though, your content is enjoyable to watch, even though I don't play anymore. If matchmaking were "fixed" and yeah if some of the LTM's (3 strikes and that capture thingy) became permanent, I'd consider coming back. Thanks for bringing up and talking about this topic!
Completely agree with you on the SBMM. I’ve been an Apex legends player since it came out, I was a leftover titanfall player lol. And for the past two seasons, I have seen the lowest amount of games played on my account strictly due to my friends, who I play with that didn’t really progress well started getting rolled consistently, frustrated and eventually quit. I continue to play solo but as you stated it is an absolute sweat fest for a casual like myself I jumped on yesterday afternoon for the first time in three weeks, and in the five games I played I got absolutely annihilated by HisWattson and his teammates in 2 of the games. I wish they would fix the SBMM as I think that would curb a lot of players quitting early in game as well as retain more players for longer because they’re actually having fun and not running for their lives. I’m with you I wanna see apex do well! ❤ thanks for all you do Moose
I think a big thing for me is just the game getting a little bit stale as I’ve played so long. Therefore, I don’t sink as much time into it to remain at a higher skill level which creates more frustrations.
The biggest problem I've noticed in why a lot of people I know are leaving is the server issues. Lags, lag spikes, audio, and other similar servers issues.
My little brother bought me COD for my birthday in early November. Haven't touched APEX since. Ranked system is the worst I've ever played. COD lowkey kind of sucks but it's way more fun than APEX.
Matchmaking is horrible for pubs, you can be a day 1 player & only get new players under level 200 who are useless & take all game to loot. I won’t even get into how shit ranked has been. And instead of fixing the game they just max out their profits now instead of investing some & getting a lot more back eventually. And they really don’t help creators grow. If you were a BO3 creator, you’d have 800k-1M subs easy. The game can’t grow because the community & developers don’t let it. I wish they would take a season, not drop any pointless events & just fix the game itself first.
Apex lost me just like Fortnite did, when FN started listening to pro players waaaay more than casuals. Ranked is buns jn Apex due to MMR, nothing feels casual at all, and its nothing new.
I think at the high end of skill level this video is spot on from start to finish. But speaking as a casual player who loves the game but isnt amazing at it... The last few seasons have CRUSHED me. Everyone seems to be killing me in seconds and is just SO much better than me. And the matchmaking is definitely funky as im in silver and seeing champion squads from masters popping up frequently. It isnt uncommon for me to play for an evening and not only not win any games but also not win any firefights atall. This goes for unranked too btw. Which is fine every once in a while but its almost all the time. And it grinds you down.
Apex Legends needs innovation. Imagine 64+ tick servers, reduced visual clutter, movement like Titanfall 2, and better matchmaking. Easy fixes to make the game great!
Lack of content, innovation and creativity? Pfff. For many many players out there, seasoned or new, it is just not fun anymore. Imagine, you come home from school, work, or whatever, you log into a game, and after encounter you are wiped in 10-15 sec. And this goes on for days, and even weeks. What or where is the fun in that? A game played should be fun, and it is not fun anymore.
I didn't enjoy season 18 or 19 ranked at all, I made it to silver and hated every second of it whereas before I was hitting late gold to mid plat average even occasionally diamond. With the MMR though it just felt like plat/diamond lobbies constantly (which I'm sure that's exactly what it was...) But it just felt wrong. I'd rather see there be an mmr break between medal tiers. When you break into Gold have the mmr lower a little bit as it's a new tier and refactor who you're matched with based on your matches within Gold. S18 and S19 just were not it for me personally, and I say that coming from a stance of being an above average but by no means god-tier player.
I totally agree and think you've made some valid points and I hope this is heard by the right ppl. I feel the same way its my favorite game hands down, only difference is I'm casual but just sweaty enough to still get shafted by the mmr. I'm here for whatever you feel like uploading bro.
I'm not here to defend respawn or the player base Here's the thing. Respawn has so much pride for this game that they won't just make a change just because they're game is dying. If they think it's right, they'll ride that decision to the grave. EA on the other side has so much greed for this game that they'll cause the game to die just to make a few bucks and then move on to the next game. It's like a tornado of greed and pride. With that said, Respawn almost always makes the smart decision. Whether you want to believe it or not. I'm very sure that they're gonna make a change to the things people are upset about but I doubt it'll be for the players. Crossovers: I'm sure you know this but, Respawn has built this game off of lore since like season 5 or whatever. Since then, they've kept to it and have made changes with the lore in mind. Crossovers just can't happen with a lore based game unless the characters are cosplaying those other characters. Like for example they had a big anime event. They weren't exact crossovers but they were pretty obvious who they were. I remember the octane skin had to be changed because of a copyright thing. Which leads me to the next point of this. They simply just don't have the rights to make those other characters. Copyright is stupid. With both of these points, mostly because of the lore, it's close to impossible to do much with crossovers. As much as I'd like Bart Simpson to be the next legend, they just won't do it. Lack of creativity and game modes: Three Strikes was amazing. You're absolutely right. It was so good, that from my memory, it's the only LTM that got extended past it's end time because the players didn't want it to go. They've also released this new mechanic in the kill code event. I don't know how it works or anything but from what I've heard it changes the way the game plays entirely. I've also heard it's simply bringing back old features. Like grenade and heal stack counts. To be honest, I think this was one of apex's greatest seasons. And it's only just started. Viewership: 100%. Viewership is definitely low because of other games. Warzone and Fortnite both to blame but let's be real. When GTA VI releases, it'll be like a nuke. The trailer already was a nuke. It became the record holder for the most youtube views in 24 hours ever. Beating the old record at 98M. But as for Three Strikes not gaining viewership. I think that's insane. But I can't lie, the stats are there. Even though this mode has caused a wave of literally the greatest apex legends content I've ever watched, and I've seen Dark Zero's b2b. it just hasn't been enough. Microtransactions: Yeah they're the worst. We as a player base have complained about them re releasing old skins so many times. And they always say we're sorry, we won't do it again. And then they do it again in a different way. Yeah. They're the worst Matchmaking: Here's my tinfoil hat. I think the matchmaking is becoming more strict than it was before. There are hundreds of thousands of other players online and yet I can only play against the same 100ish people. Yes there could be a region thing but is there really not at least 300 players in the northwest part of the country? Out of hundreds of thousands of players? No way. I'm thinking, the matchmaking gets stricter. The players get better. The players get paired with better players. The matchmaking gets stricter. The players get better- see where I'm going with this? I think it's a ploy. I think Respawn and EA have devised this plan to grow they're competitive scene. I've read through some articles that say EA isn't making much money off of ALGS and that it's actually dying but idk. Part of me thinks that fuels it, part of me thinks I'm overthinking. I got no ideas to fix it. I just know it's bad and that there's gotta be a better way Is it in a grave or are they sling shotting: Personally, we've seen them slingshot before. Many times in fact. But, as a rubber band gets stretched further, it starts to lose it's elasticity over time. Eventually, it just won't snap back the same as it used to. It will snap back, but it'll be more of a sad flop. And as any elastic thing snaps back, it's only for but a second. And quickly comes back down. I think it's just a slingshot in a grave. This quickly became my favorite game of all time. Day 1 player and still hard stuck gold. But it's going to die one day. When, I don't know, but it will. And I think respawn themselves are avoiding that thought of pulling the plug. We can only wait and see Do what your heart says my dude. Personally I watch your videos because your so good at Maggie. But if apex dies, and I never see another apex upload again, I still hope I see another moose upload Edit: Sorry for the novel
I'll share the number 1 reason me and my friends quit (we were 5). We really really like apex but all of us are MnK players (3 of us were pred) and let me tell you, once Hal made the switch to controller, pubs changed heavily and SBMM made you see it clearly. Whenever we played non ranked pubs for fun, the lobbies that we heavily stomped had 0 controller players and the lobbies that were much harder (full of preds and legit master players) were full of controller one clip beamers and man it was rough to play that. Those lobbies were easily 85%+ controller. Even when you faced a player you knew wasn't very good but still one clipped my asshole due to how strong aim assist is, it felt so annoying. Then the controller players got access to the configs to do superglides and tap strafes. The devs have been saying for 2 years that they are "watching" and considering "nerfing" aim assist but lets be real, they will never do it, they are scared of the community losing their shit. That was the nail in the coffin. We all moved to other shooters.
Yes. I booted the game on my PC for the first time since March to use some of the 500,000 legend tokens to get all the legends. I messed around in the firing range and ended up playing cyberpunk instead. I just don’t like getting destroyed game in and game out. I have a 1.1 KD so I’m not that good, but I’ve played for 3 years before it just became a chore to play.
it feels like that i have to play with controller to have a chance to win i dont want to play a game where the aim assist is borderline just tracking the enemy for you
Personally I think the ranked system is the biggest turn off. I am currently playing on PC (switched from Xbox) so my rank got reset and I queue with my friends that aren’t very good. We all started with placements in Rookie 4 and I placed Bronze 1 while they were Bronze 4. I am SLOWLY coming up to gold while they are currently on Platinum rank up trials. I consistently out frag/damage my teammates and they still seem to get 100+ more LP than me because of the skill bonus they get for playing in my MMR (Master/Pred from Xbox). I even solo queued a game and found that both of my teammates were in Diamond while I was still working my way through Silver because this MMR system SUCKS and won’t get me out of elo hell and being stuck with a silver badge on my screen. It needs a STRONG rework or just get rid of ranked as a whole because this is the most unrewarding system in any ranked mode of any game currently out there.
I quit playing apex because at the time all my controllers were broken and they still haven't added mnk support to the game. On top of that I play on a series s now and the wont add 120 hz to console either. I wont play a competitive game were the devs pander to cry baby pc players who cant accept the fact that mouse and keyboard is native on consoles now and their only argument is "if you want mouse and keyboard buy a pc". Why should I go out and buy a pc when its native on console, oh so that I spend money on a really good graphics card just to immediately turn my graphics down to get a higher frame rate.
You just said i've been thinking about apex for the past 2 years. I'm glad you made this video and shined a light on the ideas that I and many others believe in. You have a lot of good ideas, keep speaking out and they will listen!
The match making and the constant catering to Pro players. If the pros complain they change to cater to their wants instead of what the majority of people have issues with or more importantly don't have issues with
Ground war/ big team is something thats never been done in Apex. Needs to happen. The store prices are just so ridiculous, for digital meaningless content. Skins should be $5, $10. As a solo I have mostly been playing ranked because I like playing the game to try to win, not just get kills. So you have a better chance of getting teammates like that in ranked. But the ranked changes this season and last made it a lot less rewarding. I fought and clawed to gold 4 last season. I’ve been plat a few times with less wins than I had last season. My main complaint has been LP for wins needs to be higher, I get excluding rats, but if you actually get a ranked win you should get way more LP than you do. You should move half a ranked tier in my opinion.
I think the biggest problem is player retention- apex is just and unbelievably complicated and difficult game to get good at. Thats whats kept the playerbase keeps playing but speaking from experience, i was a 3.7kd player in my prime a few seasons back but taking a break and trying to come back i play the same players i did in my prime and iust get washed every game. The other problem is the lack of content and updates theres a lul mid season where it just feels like theres nothing to do no new content or updates to keep the game fresh pair this with the extremely slow time to balance things a stale meta and boring and lazy cosmetics i find myself hopping on to try the new legend playing a few matches and being off until something new drops
Its difficult to get good at when you are level 5 learning the game and play against the sweatiest predators on pubs. Sbmm has been worse since they changed it
Yeah, as much as people don't want to admit, the advanced movement and overtuned aim assist on controller has gutted the game over time for new and even longtime players, and older players are slowly moving away to newer games, like me. The ones that remain are gatekeeping fun, and the SBMM for ranked is trash. People say that pubs is full of preds and that could be fixed, but I doubt it. The game priortizes getting you into a match quickly as opposed to it being balanced. It wants you to hotdrop, feel the thrill of, die, and repeat as fast as possible with as little downtime (similar to TikTok). Sometimes it'll throw a game in there where you're the best in the lobby, but it's random and like casino slots lol. With new players facing others using both MnK and controller (I do it too), configs, advanced movement that takes plenty time to learn and much more to master, exploiting clearly overtuned legends that get special treatment, and having to go up against thousands of hours of experienced players sweating, people are just offput rather quick regardless if the game is fun. That's without getting into the cheaters, audio issues, and lag/server spikes. I can't blame people for leaving the game.
you nailed it when talking about the hidden MMR in ranked and a new player having a different ranked experience vs a seasoned returning player playing in different lobbies despite the same rank. i stopped playing ranked because it doesnt feel rewarding. why do i have to fight high elo lobbies during silver, gold, and plat. a rank badge seems meaningless if my lobbies' elo does not reflect the rank. i occasionally hop into ranked when i want sweaty gameplay but i no longer feel like im competing for my rank. hopefully they fix it eventually
Finals has just been way more fun to me. Not a br, essentially instant queues, no in match bugs or lag, no annoying stutter bug, and it’s fresh. I feel like apex scratched an itch better then the competition but for a handful of players we never really liked it to begin with, it was just the best of a boring list
I stopped playing Apex for one reason only... And that is matchmaking can't have any sort of fun when I'm playing tdm I always get people who are preds and I'm a casual player who hasn't played in almost half a year and when I came back the lobbies weren't any different atleast 5 - 10 preds in a public match. Just want to have some fun games with my Bois.
Apex is just a hard game in general and over time it will keep getting harder. If you're just casually hopping on there once or twice a week you're going to have a rough time. Basically one of two things will happen to you. You'll avoid fights because you don't feel confident about your skills, and you'll get mad because you didn't win any games after camping for a chance at a circumstantial win. The other scenario is you'll try to fight it out and play the game but get rolled a majority of the time and eventually get upset about it. Either way you won't want to play anymore for a while. The only way to even have a chance is to put in around 20+ hours a week into the game and fight a majority of the time if you're a solo. If you want to have some real consistency you're going to have to dedicate all your free time to the game and 3 stack with the same circle of people on a regular basis. That the secret. Once the MMR puts you and keeps you in the top lobbies you need to be playing with a seasoned team to get by. Unless you're just one of those 0.00001% god tier players that can get it done solo at that level then there's just no other way.
well said 💯. apex legends is a hard game for sure compare to call of duty. apex requires a lot of teamwork and position which people dont understand. yes people are pro at shooting but this new season 18,19 exposed all the pro players. they dont know how to play for placement, it requires a lot of positon and common sense.
i know apex will never have Solo's, but the lack of people being able to have fun without a group and to play solo is what is slowly killing this game. I mean look at most streamers and youtubers they all play solo, cant do that on apex
I keep replying under people who comment this because it’s not talked about enough. Being forced to play with randoms is, 90% of the time, extremely frustrating and it gives zero incentive to play the game when none of your friends are online. Especially when they leave the game the moment they get downed-even if you win the fight and can craft their banner-and your team is left handicapped for the rest of the game. They had solos back in the beginning seasons and I absolutely loved it, and they haven’t brought the mode back ever since.
I stepped away from apex not just because of the content nor the cross progression because we have them. It’s because of the SBMM if the devs, respawn, and EA actually gives us a information about SBMM and start to fix them not just in pubs not just rank but everywhere then this game would be fine. Also, adding solo mode to me would make a lot of Players come back to apex nobody wants to have a teammates who don’t know how to play and just back out for no reason. But it’s up to them
Your SBMM observation is on point. Been solo grinding this season as always, Im in G3 and queued up with either silver or bronze, and I observe that its either we play against multiple 3 stacks teams or last season pred-master players. I just want to play, like if im Gold, can I get a gold teammates too, and if im solo, can I play against solo players too? Wtf.
Your visible rank make zero difference for matchmaking. Thats all hidden mmr. You, and your randoms in ranked are considered roughly the same skill by mmr. Stop looking at the rank you and your teammates are in as a measurement of skill. Its no longer the case. Its fucking stupid but it is what it is
I think it's because when the game came out it was just so innovative and since its release they kept upping the ante, but for the past couple seasons it seems to have plateaud and the devs or ea or whoever decided to focus on cosmetics and heirlooms more than good new content
I think what is driving away new players and just players in general is the absolute dogshit state of ranked and the cranked sbmm. Im a casual player with maybe 5000 total kills and I constantly die against preds and players with over 30000 kills. I cannot imagine what it is like for a brand new player to join and have to go against people like that. For instance multiple times I kill someone and then see theyre under level 50 with like 30 kills, and these guys are in the same lobbies as me which is completely unfair cause how can I be in the same lobbies as bots and preds. If I were new to Apex and i died to a pred or someone with thousand of kills more than me I simply wouldnt play it again
I have over 4,000 hours in this game and i can confidently say it's the MMR/SBMM. I've started playing less this season because of it. I either play solo or with one teammate, and we constantly are dying to top 500 preds who run hip to hip in every single gamemode. It's annoying, but i don't blame them, the matchmaking in this game is wayyyy too punishing and unenjoyable. I've only hit Master's once and I've never even had a 4K or a 20 kill game in BR btw
45000 hours in this game, solo q pubs only. Only ever got one 4K and multiple 3Ks but never a 20B. I’m above average but not insane but the game thinks I should carry the worst players against lobbies filled will multiple 3 stacks. In a night I might get 1 win with 2k + damage but most games end quick and no matter how much I help my randoms they can’t even help themselves. I use to be able to win games completely solo but the sbmm is so harsh now I don’t even bother trying. Sad what we get for all these hours spent trying to improve ourselves😂
@@iiTzXDXDXD I feel your pain brother. Just hopped off Apex and only died to people with over 15,000 kills on their legend while only playing mixtape lol. I try to do my own thing in LTMs and these guys are warming up for ALGS. Control is my favorite game mode(I know, unpopular opinion) and even it's pretty shitty to play rn with the matchmaking; I'm usually at the top of the ratings because I actually care about winning and play objective and the enemies will have a pred squad that's Seal Team 6'ing our home base while my teammates just run and die at B the whole game. I hate not feeling good enough because I don't hand hold every single second of the game
The rank system has killed me these past couple of seasons, there’s no sense of accomplishment at getting a certain rank cause I’m going to be playing masters players no matter what rank I am 😢
None of my friends play anymore because of the sbmm and shit anti-cheat. Protecting thebbottom 25% wont cut it. You specifically need to separate the top 25% from the rest of us. Everything else you said is spot on
im totally agree with you moose me and my friends were talking about that and honestly we have hope also in respawn team, in the meantime we are playing less apex because its still being the same thing, with a lot of potential.
Well said Moose - the core gameplay in Apex (the gun play, movement, legends, etc) are the best in any game but it's so limited - more ways to enjoy the core gameplay would make the game much better For other games try out the Finals when it comes out (the beta was super fun(
This. Take Titanfall 2 for example. And I use it because it shares an engine and code with Apex. There are so many unique game modes: 1. Pilot vs Pilot 2. "Arenas" (same rules as Apex more or less) 3. Capture the Flag with pilots only 4. Capture the flag with pilots and Titans 5. Bounty Hunt (two teams fighting to get the most AI kills and bank points between rounds) 6. Last Titan Standing (Arenas but with Titans) 7. Titan Brawl (Titan TDM) 8. Frontier Defense (4 player co op "zombies" mode) 9. Attrition (player vs player with titans and AI enemies) And I think I actually missed a couple.
The thing I hate the most is the fact I’m put in lobby’s with predators, 20 bomb and 4k Badges! I should never go up against these guys! I’ve played the game since season 1 and love it but I’ve had enough of dying to these people. It sucks.
I agree with you but remember, Fortnite employees complained that they were doing 60+ hours a week just for us to get these 'new skins' everyday. But yeah.. Apex is defo lacking in creativity n that post malone crossover was so trash ngl.. However, that Final Fantasy crossover looks alright, I guess.
I left Fortnite because of the SBMM. I left Warzone because of SBMM. And after being a day one Apex player I recently deleted the game because mainly because of SBMM. I just don't understand what lobbies I'm put in. Everybody's cracked. Nobody misses a shot. Everybody's wall jumping, bunny hopping and shield swapping. And by a miracle we find a team that I feel like is at my level or below. If we do win the fight, we get third party by a team that has no audio and deletes us instantly.
I got a stupid but funny idea. "All Wraith mode". Fastest player to leave when knocked get a surprise champion screen.😅. In all seriousness, remove hidden MMR and allow players to see enemy ranks. Let's undo some nap changes . Skull town and Sorting Factory ftw
I'd like to see a Ranked DUOs. Even though DUOs is sweaty. Whenever my buddy and I queue up in ranked, 9 times out of 10, we'll get a random who plays like a bot or won't stick with us or ping where he's going and will die alone. Seldom do we get a 3rd who actually plays smart.
The big issue for console is , it’s the same teams every game same 3 stack preds with Cronus zens running the lobby . A lot of people have stopped playing because we don’t wanna waste 25mins in a queue just to get slaughtered from 300M with a r99 , another massive issue is bugs , I was top 200 pred this season but I’ve stopped because of the under the map glitches , invisible glitches now there’s godmode . I love apex but console is ruined I only play if my pc friends are on now
Three strikes brought me back to Apex after skipping almost two full seasons beforehand and it WAS the most fun I've had in the game since s10 or 11. There is no need to look too hard to figure out it's because of the change in pacing that game mode brought. A team of premade plat or diamond players mow you down even though yer in bronze II? Don't worry, you can be revived and rotate away! I'd be the first to admit I am not the best player out there. Been playing since season 8 and the highest I have ever climbed was gold1 and yes, I play with friends who are at a similar level. So why do I need to run around for 10 minutes per match, maybe win a 1v1 or two, then get sh@t on by tapstrafing aimgods with ten-times more kills on one legend than I have on my account together? Where do they even come from? If I am in bronze lobbies, please let me play with bronze or silver players. Then I may consider buying yer bs 130 euro skins.
Im among those og players who played the game since season 0 actually when they added caustic and mirage together in game. Sbmm is bad,ranked is a disasters for solo players,audio doesn't exist literally especially on conduit,op legends and on the other hand we have legends that nobody plays anymore like seer,this game is used to be a first person shooter with legends abilities,now its a legends ability based game that can grab gun just in case,nerf and buff according to hal and a few more while so many people and streamers with great ideas never get opportunity like that,guns.. Everybody plays hemlock,nemesis R99 and car smg and thats it rest of the guns are literally useless and all they do is just ignore apex community and just listen to sweats Removed self res,no 120fps on next gens...
I don’t really play ranked ever but I have never gotten higher than gold in ranked. Every single pubs game I play is FULL of master players and preds to the point where I only ever die to insane players. Even my bronze 4 ranked lobbies have the same issue.
exactly why I stopped playing ranked. It is so tedious to grind my rank out especially with the artificial brake between the ranks (trials). Even worse for my motivation: Spent hours to achieve masters last season to get only diamond rewards... no ranked for me this season...
As someone with 400 hours in game, I went 72 games last night with 0 kills and 4 knocks total for 3 hours. "It's a skill issue... you're just a noob" You are right. I am a noob. But if i'm constantly being bullied by high level players, eventually the noob doesn't want to be bullied anymore and goes play another game. I respect myself and my time enough to know this game isn't worth it anymore.
You guys should get together and play different games as a squad like the "Fast Squad". Janks=Stone, Rachet=Fug, Moose=Acculite and iTemp=Tomo I can totally see it!
I love the game its just i play like 1 or 2 times a week now, because of work i cant play more than this. Now i have to play against people who are preds, or have over 80.000 kills on 1 legend i got 18.000 lifetime kills. So i went to fortnite and i like that game more now because for me its more chill. So i agree with ur statement. Keep up the good work bro ❤
Yea ive been trying to play ranked lately and im only in silver lobbies but i feel like im playing against diamonds :/ i thought waiting several weeks for the sweats to get their rank would be good enough but the mmr is killing me..
the game was gonna die anyways but the Community make it live longer but the game didnt care about them by removing the free event packs. making recoler events that each skin cost 25$.making the br much harder by making every packge has weapon.making a event that the main item of it is recoler to bp skin.changing sbmm wich make the pubs for pros unfun and for the noobs and making a aa broken and not nerfing it wich make the mnk noobs switching to roller
*meanwhile moose a couple days before next season when he and others get early access to the new season with an EA sponsor with the video title saying “aPeX iS sAvEd”*
Fix the ranked matchmaking. Cater a little bit to the casual players (you know, 80% of the playerbase). I know apex is like all mythically high skill to play, but there is no point being exclusively interesting and rewarding to the absolute sweatiest players. Twitch views aren't the only thing that makes a game good.
Wish I could brother. I been on the solo grind got thru my platt trials into diamond then I had some bad teammates and got into 0/3 demotion protection, I played 1 singular game and when I returned to the lobby I was 300 points back into platinum. I have to say it took me less than 30 seconds to uninstall the game and say this is enough. I am a ranked grinder but I’m also a whale, I’ve spent atleast 10-20k on this game so I pay for most of the players who do not, I no longer will most certainly be giving any funds and as for player base numbers I don’t see myself coming back anytime soon after being done dirty at every corner that was enough
I don’t want to play controller players that can’t move or play for shit but don’t miss. I don’t want to play anyone who isn’t on completely level footing, end of.
the MMR system is killing the game, everything else i enjoy but it makes it pretty hard for me. im gold but when i play solo i am paired with mostly diamond ish players. it makes me not only feel like shit. i dont know if i should try to improve or get worse to rank up...
Things that are making me sick of apex: no arenas, terrible sbmm, terrible rank System, trash Servers, cheaters, aimassist and of course no Solos and the advantages for 3-stacks
the only thing turning me away is the sbmm, it’s crazy. i can’t even remember the last time that i felt like i was the best player in the lobby and didn’t need to absolutely sweat my cheeks off just to end up with a couple of kills. and i’m stuck soloing cause none of my friends wanna play anymore :/
Facts man, since I hit diamond, my pub games have been full of preds
@@denzel_mob1523went diamond two seasons ago, regret it now atm because of sbmm
Solo is pretty miserable rn, stay strong my friend
I feel this. Solo casuals like myself - anything outside of mix tape is torture. Get good isn't an option for me. I have a handful of hours in a week to enjoy some video games and I want to have fun doing so.
I totally agree, I've been playing solo since the game dropped & it's just not fun anymore getting sent hard by every player in the lobby all the time, though I don't think the SBMM is the problem as it needs to exist to help balance the lobbies. I think the answer to the problem is to give either give solo players some sort of advantage or pre made squads a disadvantage of some sort seeing as they already have a massive advantage playing back to back games and coms together.
Pubs during 3 strikes was the most fun I’ve had on this game since release. All the sweat three stacks were playing 3 strikes and it reminded me just how fun this game can be. Then the event ended and it immediately became brutal again. It sucks that this is something they have the ability to change but don’t.
Right? If they get such a positive feed back on the game mode, why take it away? Such a strange, strange dev company
100% agreed
smbb even ruined that to a degree.. then all the LL, Newcastle, Mirage forever ressing teams... ppl ruin everything
Three strikes sucked, bunch of rez legends instantly rez as soon as you knock them, even noobs could kill you if they did this
It’s was dumb . Lifeline op af
It's 100 percent the hidden MMR system. 1:8 lobbies are the ones we should be in. When you do well suddenly you are in pred lobbies getting destroyed (I think in the old system I could maybe get plat if I had the time).
i agree. i have been playing a long time, but not a pred. im a plat/dia. but i get to fight preds like non stop.. its brakeing me
Yeah, what's even the purpose of "Rank" when we didn't even compete in our rank? It's so stupid
Hidden MMR in ranked is the dumbest thing ever in a game. Literally makes playing ranked pointless. Yeah, let’s make people play against Masters and Preds while trying to get out of Silver. Makes a ton of sense. But if you suck, you will play against other shitty players all the way up through the ranks!!
@schutzaustin also, what is a 1:8 lobby?
what is a 1:8 lobby?
100% on ranked.
This was a game that I've been on consistently since launch. Ranked has been what has kept the game alive for me (Diamond to Masters player depending on the season). I love the competitive gameplay and the goal of reaching higher tier lobbies and truly competitive games makes me come back time and time again.
But with these last two seasons, the fact that a Master level player, starting Gold, yet playing in the same lobbies for hours, seeing the same names on the kill feed, same Masters and preds throughout my games as I work my way back up slowly but surely... it's left an incredibly sour taste in my mouth with the thought of this new system not being based on your rank and instead on MMR.
Ranked is ranked... and should be based on your rank.
They killed it from when they changed ranked method. Everyone is waiting til final circle to pop off
I stopped playing because as a solo player I was getting too toxic. I just got tired of being paired with noobs with the idea that we would balance each other out but really it's like playing with a handicap every game. Nothing against the new players but even when you try to teach them the game they don't listen and my patience was just worn out.
I've been playing Apex for 2 months to the day. The first two games were a great experience. Apex Legends could be a great game. I've gotten 6 kills since then and have been in 1 win. It makes me sick now how hard the game is because I have opponents that have 8000 kills or infinite wins. What am I little light supposed to do about it? I'm being burned against dramatically better opponents, without kills, without victories and without a sense of achievement, I'm not having any fun. I've been playing every day for the last two months, I couldn't bring myself to play yesterday and I can't do it today either.
The biggest problem with Apex is that there's no matchmaking, I'm put together with players who have significantly more experience and skill than me.
The second biggest problem I see in Apex is that there is no solo mode and no bot lobbies for weaker players. I'm a casual player who works during the day and wants to have some fun in the little free time I have.
Three things turn me away from Apex. Matchmaking is the first, there is no possibility to get a few chill games to recharge before taking on sweat mode. Controller balancing, it's currently meta and I don't like playing controller, combine this with the matchmaking and you got an even worse experience. And the messed up infrastructure, slow servers and bad networking that is messing up my experience by packet loss, placing me in the wrong continents so you get rubber banding and what bot while you play. Lately I even started looking at Fortnite as a valid replacement.
I had a year's break from apex where I was enjoying two other games: farlight and bloodhunt, sadly they did not make it, so it's going to be interesting to see if apex corrects their issues or it's just going into memorable mode.
I forgot to mention the broken rank system that makes no point in playing ranked any longer, it's no longer an indicator about how good you are.
One of the biggest issues is that respawn just doesn’t really add, change, or fix things unless the player numbers really drop. Or better yet, people start spending less money. This game has so many issues that people have been asking for them to address over and over and over and over again. And every time some asks them about one of the issues (audio for example) they either ignore it or say we are aware of it, but that’s it. But once you finally get sick of the game and leave, all of a sudden “hey everyone! Come see these new changes and fixes!” Too late fam. Too late.
For me I stopped playing b/c of the solo Q experience. I'm an above average player and I don't mind facing masters and pred players, but it's the constant 3 stacks I can't stand. I don't blame them but when I down two preds and get killed by the third while both my teammates left after getting knocked, it makes the experience feel helpless and unfair
2 years ago I tried to play Apex first time with a friend but w found ourselves vs high elo so we quit.
2 days ago, we just did the same and again vs high elos and we barely know anything...
my friend quit in despair and I'm struggling alone, and I rly find it not fair nor balanced.
(im just level 8 now and my friend quit at level7)
Don't forget rewards! Getting any rank, should reward you with something. A weapon skin, character skin, crafting metals, literally anything besides trackers, stickers, banner frames. After ranking all season, all you get is a badge. Spending Hours against the SBMM for 70+ days, just for you to reach Gold, Plat, Diamond, and at the end...a nice pat on the back for suffering for so long. It's crazy to think your only options for "rewards" are in the store.
for me the ONLY reason i play less is because I feel like I'm punished. I'm less than average in terms of skill. I've played Apex for two years- but it was my first competitive FPS ever. So i'm below the skill curve. For the first year I felt insane progress. I saw myself get better and felt rewarded for improving. I got more damage, more kill, more wins.
But now it's different. My last win was several MONTHS ago when I had squadded up with players 10x my skill. I have 10 deaths per 1 kill. I have no way to accurately compare my skillset because while I THINK I'm better than last year my stats would tell you that i'm fundamentally worse.
I don't mind dying a lot. I've had to have a lot of patience trying to learn competitive FPS games in my 20s since i didn't play them growing up. But I NEVER get rewarded for my discipline and hard work to improve. Every time I touch down in a new match I feel like I'm fodder for all the better players that play Apex for a million hours a day.
I left because as MnK im bored playing only agains Controller and the ranksystem is the worst in this world
It’s literally sbmm. I don’t give a shit about the content or skins or anything else when every single pub match is an ALGS tournament. The game is dying because of sbmm.
I have been playing since day 1 and the last 2 seasons including this one, have been almost unplayable. I have a KD of 1.2 so I’m probably average. I used to get to Platinum mostly and Diamond for only 3 seasons. There has been a huge drop in the player base, so obviously the average player skill has gone up because the better players have stuck around. So average players like me have become the “bad” players and I get straight wrecked repeatedly. Pubs was so much fun when the 3 strikes mode was out, and as soon as it ended all of the Predators came back to pub stomp. Everyone loved that mode. The good players had a place to go to sweat and have crazy fun games and the rest of the player base could relax a little and enjoy pubs for the first time in several seasons. This game is such a CHORE to play now.
What you said about the modes is spot on. Ive been wanting ranked duos and solos for years.
It's because of MMR, big brother matchmaking, EOMM, and predatory business practices galore. Apex is a cesspit of corporate greed and players are sick of it.
it’s dying because the matchmaking is bad. it’s trash. and when you get a complete tool for a teammate and you gotta play fake TTVs Horizons and wraiths that use zens and cheat and think they are good. it gets old
I quit about over a year ago cause of controller players, ranked changes, and stormpoint, the devs just don't gaf
The matchmaking is what did it for me, last time I played Apex was maybe February '23. I have also stopped watching some other Apex streamers. Still here though, your content is enjoyable to watch, even though I don't play anymore. If matchmaking were "fixed" and yeah if some of the LTM's (3 strikes and that capture thingy) became permanent, I'd consider coming back. Thanks for bringing up and talking about this topic!
Completely agree with you on the SBMM. I’ve been an Apex legends player since it came out, I was a leftover titanfall player lol. And for the past two seasons, I have seen the lowest amount of games played on my account strictly due to my friends, who I play with that didn’t really progress well started getting rolled consistently, frustrated and eventually quit. I continue to play solo but as you stated it is an absolute sweat fest for a casual like myself I jumped on yesterday afternoon for the first time in three weeks, and in the five games I played I got absolutely annihilated by HisWattson and his teammates in 2 of the games. I wish they would fix the SBMM as I think that would curb a lot of players quitting early in game as well as retain more players for longer because they’re actually having fun and not running for their lives. I’m with you I wanna see apex do well! ❤ thanks for all you do Moose
I think a big thing for me is just the game getting a little bit stale as I’ve played so long. Therefore, I don’t sink as much time into it to remain at a higher skill level which creates more frustrations.
Also- I don’t spend money on apex anymore . I have 5 heirlooms and so many skins. Skins are not content to me.
The biggest problem I've noticed in why a lot of people I know are leaving is the server issues. Lags, lag spikes, audio, and other similar servers issues.
According to Respawn they have made audio improvements 3+ times now. I must be going deaf!!!
same here, I'm leaving because it's so buggy lately, it's almost impossible to play it without being stressed out.
Or unable connect to lobby, infinite loading screen, spinning wheel bug etc.
My little brother bought me COD for my birthday in early November. Haven't touched APEX since. Ranked system is the worst I've ever played. COD lowkey kind of sucks but it's way more fun than APEX.
Matchmaking is horrible for pubs, you can be a day 1 player & only get new players under level 200 who are useless & take all game to loot. I won’t even get into how shit ranked has been. And instead of fixing the game they just max out their profits now instead of investing some & getting a lot more back eventually. And they really don’t help creators grow. If you were a BO3 creator, you’d have 800k-1M subs easy. The game can’t grow because the community & developers don’t let it. I wish they would take a season, not drop any pointless events & just fix the game itself first.
Apex lost me just like Fortnite did, when FN started listening to pro players waaaay more than casuals. Ranked is buns jn Apex due to MMR, nothing feels casual at all, and its nothing new.
If they give us real solo mode and the 3 strikes mode permanently it would make me happy along with almost everyone else
Ever since they removed the solo modes I’ve been begging that they bring it back
Well y'know apex they said it won't be returning cause "it's a team game". Just go play Titanfall or fortnite
or warzone@@paperclip6377
I think at the high end of skill level this video is spot on from start to finish.
But speaking as a casual player who loves the game but isnt amazing at it...
The last few seasons have CRUSHED me. Everyone seems to be killing me in seconds and is just SO much better than me.
And the matchmaking is definitely funky as im in silver and seeing champion squads from masters popping up frequently.
It isnt uncommon for me to play for an evening and not only not win any games but also not win any firefights atall. This goes for unranked too btw.
Which is fine every once in a while but its almost all the time. And it grinds you down.
Apex Legends needs innovation. Imagine 64+ tick servers, reduced visual clutter, movement like Titanfall 2, and better matchmaking. Easy fixes to make the game great!
It’s probably just the resurgence of Fortnite and the new COD
Just imagine when gta 6 drops 💀
The Finals is rumored to drop this week. Kick em while they’re down 😂
Lack of content, innovation and creativity? Pfff. For many many players out there, seasoned or new, it is just not fun anymore.
Imagine, you come home from school, work, or whatever, you log into a game, and after encounter you are wiped in 10-15 sec.
And this goes on for days, and even weeks. What or where is the fun in that?
A game played should be fun, and it is not fun anymore.
I didn't enjoy season 18 or 19 ranked at all, I made it to silver and hated every second of it whereas before I was hitting late gold to mid plat average even occasionally diamond. With the MMR though it just felt like plat/diamond lobbies constantly (which I'm sure that's exactly what it was...) But it just felt wrong. I'd rather see there be an mmr break between medal tiers. When you break into Gold have the mmr lower a little bit as it's a new tier and refactor who you're matched with based on your matches within Gold. S18 and S19 just were not it for me personally, and I say that coming from a stance of being an above average but by no means god-tier player.
I totally agree and think you've made some valid points and I hope this is heard by the right ppl. I feel the same way its my favorite game hands down, only difference is I'm casual but just sweaty enough to still get shafted by the mmr. I'm here for whatever you feel like uploading bro.
I'm not here to defend respawn or the player base
Here's the thing. Respawn has so much pride for this game that they won't just make a change just because they're game is dying. If they think it's right, they'll ride that decision to the grave. EA on the other side has so much greed for this game that they'll cause the game to die just to make a few bucks and then move on to the next game. It's like a tornado of greed and pride. With that said, Respawn almost always makes the smart decision. Whether you want to believe it or not. I'm very sure that they're gonna make a change to the things people are upset about but I doubt it'll be for the players.
Crossovers: I'm sure you know this but, Respawn has built this game off of lore since like season 5 or whatever. Since then, they've kept to it and have made changes with the lore in mind. Crossovers just can't happen with a lore based game unless the characters are cosplaying those other characters. Like for example they had a big anime event. They weren't exact crossovers but they were pretty obvious who they were. I remember the octane skin had to be changed because of a copyright thing. Which leads me to the next point of this. They simply just don't have the rights to make those other characters. Copyright is stupid. With both of these points, mostly because of the lore, it's close to impossible to do much with crossovers. As much as I'd like Bart Simpson to be the next legend, they just won't do it.
Lack of creativity and game modes: Three Strikes was amazing. You're absolutely right. It was so good, that from my memory, it's the only LTM that got extended past it's end time because the players didn't want it to go. They've also released this new mechanic in the kill code event. I don't know how it works or anything but from what I've heard it changes the way the game plays entirely. I've also heard it's simply bringing back old features. Like grenade and heal stack counts. To be honest, I think this was one of apex's greatest seasons. And it's only just started.
Viewership: 100%. Viewership is definitely low because of other games. Warzone and Fortnite both to blame but let's be real. When GTA VI releases, it'll be like a nuke. The trailer already was a nuke. It became the record holder for the most youtube views in 24 hours ever. Beating the old record at 98M. But as for Three Strikes not gaining viewership. I think that's insane. But I can't lie, the stats are there. Even though this mode has caused a wave of literally the greatest apex legends content I've ever watched, and I've seen Dark Zero's b2b. it just hasn't been enough.
Microtransactions: Yeah they're the worst. We as a player base have complained about them re releasing old skins so many times. And they always say we're sorry, we won't do it again. And then they do it again in a different way. Yeah. They're the worst
Matchmaking: Here's my tinfoil hat. I think the matchmaking is becoming more strict than it was before. There are hundreds of thousands of other players online and yet I can only play against the same 100ish people. Yes there could be a region thing but is there really not at least 300 players in the northwest part of the country? Out of hundreds of thousands of players? No way. I'm thinking, the matchmaking gets stricter. The players get better. The players get paired with better players. The matchmaking gets stricter. The players get better- see where I'm going with this? I think it's a ploy. I think Respawn and EA have devised this plan to grow they're competitive scene. I've read through some articles that say EA isn't making much money off of ALGS and that it's actually dying but idk. Part of me thinks that fuels it, part of me thinks I'm overthinking. I got no ideas to fix it. I just know it's bad and that there's gotta be a better way
Is it in a grave or are they sling shotting: Personally, we've seen them slingshot before. Many times in fact. But, as a rubber band gets stretched further, it starts to lose it's elasticity over time. Eventually, it just won't snap back the same as it used to. It will snap back, but it'll be more of a sad flop. And as any elastic thing snaps back, it's only for but a second. And quickly comes back down. I think it's just a slingshot in a grave. This quickly became my favorite game of all time. Day 1 player and still hard stuck gold. But it's going to die one day. When, I don't know, but it will. And I think respawn themselves are avoiding that thought of pulling the plug. We can only wait and see
Do what your heart says my dude. Personally I watch your videos because your so good at Maggie. But if apex dies, and I never see another apex upload again, I still hope I see another moose upload
Edit: Sorry for the novel
I'll share the number 1 reason me and my friends quit (we were 5). We really really like apex but all of us are MnK players (3 of us were pred) and let me tell you, once Hal made the switch to controller, pubs changed heavily and SBMM made you see it clearly. Whenever we played non ranked pubs for fun, the lobbies that we heavily stomped had 0 controller players and the lobbies that were much harder (full of preds and legit master players) were full of controller one clip beamers and man it was rough to play that. Those lobbies were easily 85%+ controller. Even when you faced a player you knew wasn't very good but still one clipped my asshole due to how strong aim assist is, it felt so annoying. Then the controller players got access to the configs to do superglides and tap strafes. The devs have been saying for 2 years that they are "watching" and considering "nerfing" aim assist but lets be real, they will never do it, they are scared of the community losing their shit. That was the nail in the coffin. We all moved to other shooters.
I used to get excited to play apex everyday but the sbmm has been making it miserable to play solo anymore. Really hope they make some changes
Love your content bro ,branching out playing more games would be awesome
Yes. I booted the game on my PC for the first time since March to use some of the 500,000 legend tokens to get all the legends. I messed around in the firing range and ended up playing cyberpunk instead. I just don’t like getting destroyed game in and game out. I have a 1.1 KD so I’m not that good, but I’ve played for 3 years before it just became a chore to play.
it feels like that i have to play with controller to have a chance to win i dont want to play a game where the aim assist is borderline just tracking the enemy for you
Personally I think the ranked system is the biggest turn off. I am currently playing on PC (switched from Xbox) so my rank got reset and I queue with my friends that aren’t very good. We all started with placements in Rookie 4 and I placed Bronze 1 while they were Bronze 4. I am SLOWLY coming up to gold while they are currently on Platinum rank up trials. I consistently out frag/damage my teammates and they still seem to get 100+ more LP than me because of the skill bonus they get for playing in my MMR (Master/Pred from Xbox). I even solo queued a game and found that both of my teammates were in Diamond while I was still working my way through Silver because this MMR system SUCKS and won’t get me out of elo hell and being stuck with a silver badge on my screen. It needs a STRONG rework or just get rid of ranked as a whole because this is the most unrewarding system in any ranked mode of any game currently out there.
I quit playing apex because at the time all my controllers were broken and they still haven't added mnk support to the game. On top of that I play on a series s now and the wont add 120 hz to console either. I wont play a competitive game were the devs pander to cry baby pc players who cant accept the fact that mouse and keyboard is native on consoles now and their only argument is "if you want mouse and keyboard buy a pc". Why should I go out and buy a pc when its native on console, oh so that I spend money on a really good graphics card just to immediately turn my graphics down to get a higher frame rate.
gotta fix the ping too. if i’m supposed to get 16-21 ping why do i get 66 on my main server when i have great internet make it make sense
You just said i've been thinking about apex for the past 2 years. I'm glad you made this video and shined a light on the ideas that I and many others believe in. You have a lot of good ideas, keep speaking out and they will listen!
It actually makes me sad I haven’t played Apex in 3 weeks just doesn’t hit the same anymore
The match making and the constant catering to Pro players. If the pros complain they change to cater to their wants instead of what the majority of people have issues with or more importantly don't have issues with
Broken Matchmaking, controller aimassist, expensive skins, broken audio, just to name a few
They can also bring back arenas as a start
Ground war/ big team is something thats never been done in Apex. Needs to happen. The store prices are just so ridiculous, for digital meaningless content. Skins should be $5, $10. As a solo I have mostly been playing ranked because I like playing the game to try to win, not just get kills. So you have a better chance of getting teammates like that in ranked. But the ranked changes this season and last made it a lot less rewarding. I fought and clawed to gold 4 last season. I’ve been plat a few times with less wins than I had last season. My main complaint has been LP for wins needs to be higher, I get excluding rats, but if you actually get a ranked win you should get way more LP than you do. You should move half a ranked tier in my opinion.
I think the biggest problem is player retention- apex is just and unbelievably complicated and difficult game to get good at. Thats whats kept the playerbase keeps playing but speaking from experience, i was a 3.7kd player in my prime a few seasons back but taking a break and trying to come back i play the same players i did in my prime and iust get washed every game. The other problem is the lack of content and updates theres a lul mid season where it just feels like theres nothing to do no new content or updates to keep the game fresh pair this with the extremely slow time to balance things a stale meta and boring and lazy cosmetics i find myself hopping on to try the new legend playing a few matches and being off until something new drops
Its difficult to get good at when you are level 5 learning the game and play against the sweatiest predators on pubs. Sbmm has been worse since they changed it
Yeah, as much as people don't want to admit, the advanced movement and overtuned aim assist on controller has gutted the game over time for new and even longtime players, and older players are slowly moving away to newer games, like me. The ones that remain are gatekeeping fun, and the SBMM for ranked is trash. People say that pubs is full of preds and that could be fixed, but I doubt it. The game priortizes getting you into a match quickly as opposed to it being balanced. It wants you to hotdrop, feel the thrill of, die, and repeat as fast as possible with as little downtime (similar to TikTok). Sometimes it'll throw a game in there where you're the best in the lobby, but it's random and like casino slots lol.
With new players facing others using both MnK and controller (I do it too), configs, advanced movement that takes plenty time to learn and much more to master, exploiting clearly overtuned legends that get special treatment, and having to go up against thousands of hours of experienced players sweating, people are just offput rather quick regardless if the game is fun. That's without getting into the cheaters, audio issues, and lag/server spikes. I can't blame people for leaving the game.
you nailed it when talking about the hidden MMR in ranked and a new player having a different ranked experience vs a seasoned returning player playing in different lobbies despite the same rank. i stopped playing ranked because it doesnt feel rewarding. why do i have to fight high elo lobbies during silver, gold, and plat. a rank badge seems meaningless if my lobbies' elo does not reflect the rank. i occasionally hop into ranked when i want sweaty gameplay but i no longer feel like im competing for my rank. hopefully they fix it eventually
Finals has just been way more fun to me. Not a br, essentially instant queues, no in match bugs or lag, no annoying stutter bug, and it’s fresh. I feel like apex scratched an itch better then the competition but for a handful of players we never really liked it to begin with, it was just the best of a boring list
I stopped playing Apex for one reason only...
And that is matchmaking can't have any sort of fun when I'm playing tdm I always get people who are preds and I'm a casual player who hasn't played in almost half a year and when I came back the lobbies weren't any different atleast 5 - 10 preds in a public match. Just want to have some fun games with my Bois.
Same reason... they really screwed up the matchmaking system.. it was so much fun before
Apex is just a hard game in general and over time it will keep getting harder. If you're just casually hopping on there once or twice a week you're going to have a rough time.
Basically one of two things will happen to you. You'll avoid fights because you don't feel confident about your skills, and you'll get mad because you didn't win any games after camping for a chance at a circumstantial win. The other scenario is you'll try to fight it out and play the game but get rolled a majority of the time and eventually get upset about it. Either way you won't want to play anymore for a while.
The only way to even have a chance is to put in around 20+ hours a week into the game and fight a majority of the time if you're a solo. If you want to have some real consistency you're going to have to dedicate all your free time to the game and 3 stack with the same circle of people on a regular basis.
That the secret. Once the MMR puts you and keeps you in the top lobbies you need to be playing with a seasoned team to get by. Unless you're just one of those 0.00001% god tier players that can get it done solo at that level then there's just no other way.
well said 💯. apex legends is a hard game for sure compare to call of duty. apex requires a lot of teamwork and position which people dont understand. yes people are pro at shooting but this new season 18,19 exposed all the pro players. they dont know how to play for placement, it requires a lot of positon and common sense.
i know apex will never have Solo's, but the lack of people being able to have fun without a group and to play solo is what is slowly killing this game. I mean look at most streamers and youtubers they all play solo, cant do that on apex
I keep replying under people who comment this because it’s not talked about enough. Being forced to play with randoms is, 90% of the time, extremely frustrating and it gives zero incentive to play the game when none of your friends are online. Especially when they leave the game the moment they get downed-even if you win the fight and can craft their banner-and your team is left handicapped for the rest of the game. They had solos back in the beginning seasons and I absolutely loved it, and they haven’t brought the mode back ever since.
I stepped away from apex not just because of the content nor the cross progression because we have them. It’s because of the SBMM if the devs, respawn, and EA actually gives us a information about SBMM and start to fix them not just in pubs not just rank but everywhere then this game would be fine. Also, adding solo mode to me would make a lot of Players come back to apex nobody wants to have a teammates who don’t know how to play and just back out for no reason. But it’s up to them
Your SBMM observation is on point.
Been solo grinding this season as always, Im in G3 and queued up with either silver or bronze, and I observe that its either we play against multiple 3 stacks teams or last season pred-master players. I just want to play, like if im Gold, can I get a gold teammates too, and if im solo, can I play against solo players too? Wtf.
Your visible rank make zero difference for matchmaking. Thats all hidden mmr. You, and your randoms in ranked are considered roughly the same skill by mmr. Stop looking at the rank you and your teammates are in as a measurement of skill. Its no longer the case. Its fucking stupid but it is what it is
I think it's because when the game came out it was just so innovative and since its release they kept upping the ante, but for the past couple seasons it seems to have plateaud and the devs or ea or whoever decided to focus on cosmetics and heirlooms more than good new content
I think what is driving away new players and just players in general is the absolute dogshit state of ranked and the cranked sbmm. Im a casual player with maybe 5000 total kills and I constantly die against preds and players with over 30000 kills. I cannot imagine what it is like for a brand new player to join and have to go against people like that. For instance multiple times I kill someone and then see theyre under level 50 with like 30 kills, and these guys are in the same lobbies as me which is completely unfair cause how can I be in the same lobbies as bots and preds. If I were new to Apex and i died to a pred or someone with thousand of kills more than me I simply wouldnt play it again
I have over 4,000 hours in this game and i can confidently say it's the MMR/SBMM. I've started playing less this season because of it. I either play solo or with one teammate, and we constantly are dying to top 500 preds who run hip to hip in every single gamemode. It's annoying, but i don't blame them, the matchmaking in this game is wayyyy too punishing and unenjoyable. I've only hit Master's once and I've never even had a 4K or a 20 kill game in BR btw
45000 hours in this game, solo q pubs only. Only ever got one 4K and multiple 3Ks but never a 20B. I’m above average but not insane but the game thinks I should carry the worst players against lobbies filled will multiple 3 stacks. In a night I might get 1 win with 2k + damage but most games end quick and no matter how much I help my randoms they can’t even help themselves. I use to be able to win games completely solo but the sbmm is so harsh now I don’t even bother trying. Sad what we get for all these hours spent trying to improve ourselves😂
@@iiTzXDXDXD I feel your pain brother. Just hopped off Apex and only died to people with over 15,000 kills on their legend while only playing mixtape lol. I try to do my own thing in LTMs and these guys are warming up for ALGS. Control is my favorite game mode(I know, unpopular opinion) and even it's pretty shitty to play rn with the matchmaking; I'm usually at the top of the ratings because I actually care about winning and play objective and the enemies will have a pred squad that's Seal Team 6'ing our home base while my teammates just run and die at B the whole game. I hate not feeling good enough because I don't hand hold every single second of the game
The rank system has killed me these past couple of seasons, there’s no sense of accomplishment at getting a certain rank cause I’m going to be playing masters players no matter what rank I am 😢
dont play near as often as i use to simply due to the ridiculous sbmm and lack of audio.
None of my friends play anymore because of the sbmm and shit anti-cheat. Protecting thebbottom 25% wont cut it. You specifically need to separate the top 25% from the rest of us.
Everything else you said is spot on
a solo mode would be very good, cause a lot of teammates in matches are just so useless that it looks like you are solo.
im totally agree with you moose me and my friends were talking about that and honestly we have hope also in respawn team, in the meantime we are playing less apex because its still being the same thing, with a lot of potential.
This reduced interest in Apex Could just be exam season
Well said Moose - the core gameplay in Apex (the gun play, movement, legends, etc) are the best in any game but it's so limited - more ways to enjoy the core gameplay would make the game much better
For other games try out the Finals when it comes out (the beta was super fun(
This. Take Titanfall 2 for example. And I use it because it shares an engine and code with Apex. There are so many unique game modes:
1. Pilot vs Pilot
2. "Arenas" (same rules as Apex more or less)
3. Capture the Flag with pilots only
4. Capture the flag with pilots and Titans
5. Bounty Hunt (two teams fighting to get the most AI kills and bank points between rounds)
6. Last Titan Standing (Arenas but with Titans)
7. Titan Brawl (Titan TDM)
8. Frontier Defense (4 player co op "zombies" mode)
9. Attrition (player vs player with titans and AI enemies)
And I think I actually missed a couple.
The thing I hate the most is the fact I’m put in lobby’s with predators, 20 bomb and 4k Badges! I should never go up against these guys! I’ve played the game since season 1 and love it but I’ve had enough of dying to these people. It sucks.
I agree with you but remember, Fortnite employees complained that they were doing 60+ hours a week just for us to get these 'new skins' everyday. But yeah.. Apex is defo lacking in creativity n that post malone crossover was so trash ngl..
However, that Final Fantasy crossover looks alright, I guess.
Too Boring and unfair play when people got Aim Assist... its UNFAIR! So i never play Rank Mode. I just Level up my Battlepass Quest after that Done
I left Fortnite because of the SBMM. I left Warzone because of SBMM. And after being a day one Apex player I recently deleted the game because mainly because of SBMM.
I just don't understand what lobbies I'm put in. Everybody's cracked. Nobody misses a shot. Everybody's wall jumping, bunny hopping and shield swapping.
And by a miracle we find a team that I feel like is at my level or below. If we do win the fight, we get third party by a team that has no audio and deletes us instantly.
I got a stupid but funny idea. "All Wraith mode". Fastest player to leave when knocked get a surprise champion screen.😅. In all seriousness, remove hidden MMR and allow players to see enemy ranks. Let's undo some nap changes . Skull town and Sorting Factory ftw
I'd like to see a Ranked DUOs. Even though DUOs is sweaty. Whenever my buddy and I queue up in ranked, 9 times out of 10, we'll get a random who plays like a bot or won't stick with us or ping where he's going and will die alone. Seldom do we get a 3rd who actually plays smart.
The big issue for console is , it’s the same teams every game same 3 stack preds with Cronus zens running the lobby . A lot of people have stopped playing because we don’t wanna waste 25mins in a queue just to get slaughtered from 300M with a r99 , another massive issue is bugs , I was top 200 pred this season but I’ve stopped because of the under the map glitches , invisible glitches now there’s godmode . I love apex but console is ruined I only play if my pc friends are on now
No matter what I'm still ridiculously addicted to this game.
Same here man
Three strikes brought me back to Apex after skipping almost two full seasons beforehand and it WAS the most fun I've had in the game since s10 or 11. There is no need to look too hard to figure out it's because of the change in pacing that game mode brought.
A team of premade plat or diamond players mow you down even though yer in bronze II? Don't worry, you can be revived and rotate away!
I'd be the first to admit I am not the best player out there. Been playing since season 8 and the highest I have ever climbed was gold1 and yes, I play with friends who are at a similar level. So why do I need to run around for 10 minutes per match, maybe win a 1v1 or two, then get sh@t on by tapstrafing aimgods with ten-times more kills on one legend than I have on my account together? Where do they even come from?
If I am in bronze lobbies, please let me play with bronze or silver players. Then I may consider buying yer bs 130 euro skins.
Im among those og players who played the game since season 0 actually when they added caustic and mirage together in game.
Sbmm is bad,ranked is a disasters for solo players,audio doesn't exist literally especially on conduit,op legends and on the other hand we have legends that nobody plays anymore like seer,this game is used to be a first person shooter with legends abilities,now its a legends ability based game that can grab gun just in case,nerf and buff according to hal and a few more while so many people and streamers with great ideas never get opportunity like that,guns..
Everybody plays hemlock,nemesis
R99 and car smg and thats it rest of the guns are literally useless and all they do is just ignore apex community and just listen to sweats
Removed self res,no 120fps on next gens...
There isnt even stat tracking in Mixtape!!! Its a shell of a game. Basically just a casino
Every time I think about playing Apex again I pause because I know how my match is likely to go. Then I don't.
I don’t really play ranked ever but I have never gotten higher than gold in ranked. Every single pubs game I play is FULL of master players and preds to the point where I only ever die to insane players. Even my bronze 4 ranked lobbies have the same issue.
exactly why I stopped playing ranked. It is so tedious to grind my rank out especially with the artificial brake between the ranks (trials). Even worse for my motivation: Spent hours to achieve masters last season to get only diamond rewards... no ranked for me this season...
As someone with 400 hours in game, I went 72 games last night with 0 kills and 4 knocks total for 3 hours. "It's a skill issue... you're just a noob" You are right. I am a noob. But if i'm constantly being bullied by high level players, eventually the noob doesn't want to be bullied anymore and goes play another game. I respect myself and my time enough to know this game isn't worth it anymore.
the game need to have more gamemodes, bring back arenas, like the only thing they focus on is br. most of the console community wants arenas back
Its much harder to win now i dont know why and the teamates is never stickning together to the rest of the team
I feel you on your ranked comment. I don’t even bother anymore.
Thanks for the commentary and the vids.
You guys should get together and play different games as a squad like the "Fast Squad".
Janks=Stone, Rachet=Fug, Moose=Acculite and iTemp=Tomo
I can totally see it!
I love the game its just i play like 1 or 2 times a week now, because of work i cant play more than this.
Now i have to play against people who are preds, or have over 80.000 kills on 1 legend i got 18.000 lifetime kills.
So i went to fortnite and i like that game more now because for me its more chill.
So i agree with ur statement.
Keep up the good work bro ❤
Yea ive been trying to play ranked lately and im only in silver lobbies but i feel like im playing against diamonds :/ i thought waiting several weeks for the sweats to get their rank would be good enough but the mmr is killing me..
the game was gonna die anyways but the Community make it live longer but the game didnt care about them by removing the free event packs. making recoler events that each skin cost 25$.making the br much harder by making every packge has weapon.making a event that the main item of it is recoler to bp skin.changing sbmm wich make the pubs for pros unfun and for the noobs and making a aa broken and not nerfing it wich make the mnk noobs switching to roller
*meanwhile moose a couple days before next season when he and others get early access to the new season with an EA sponsor with the video title saying “aPeX iS sAvEd”*
You’re buggin
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Love videos like that, good criticism and not just trash talk the game. Love that game too and hope apex make some changes to get more players
Fix the ranked matchmaking. Cater a little bit to the casual players (you know, 80% of the playerbase). I know apex is like all mythically high skill to play, but there is no point being exclusively interesting and rewarding to the absolute sweatiest players. Twitch views aren't the only thing that makes a game good.
Wish I could brother. I been on the solo grind got thru my platt trials into diamond then I had some bad teammates and got into 0/3 demotion protection, I played 1 singular game and when I returned to the lobby I was 300 points back into platinum. I have to say it took me less than 30 seconds to uninstall the game and say this is enough.
I am a ranked grinder but I’m also a whale, I’ve spent atleast 10-20k on this game so I pay for most of the players who do not, I no longer will most certainly be giving any funds and as for player base numbers I don’t see myself coming back anytime soon after being done dirty at every corner that was enough
Play whatever you wanna play my man, I'll be here to watch no matter what
Love and bleed Apex, ….it is what it is, hope it gets better.
I damn near YELLED "NO KIDDING" at 5am while everyone in my house is sleeping when he said "Is it that hard to make duo's ranked"
I don’t want to play controller players that can’t move or play for shit but don’t miss. I don’t want to play anyone who isn’t on completely level footing, end of.
My queue times were instant and I can have fun but now I’m waiting legit minutes for a single game and it’s such a turn off.
the MMR system is killing the game, everything else i enjoy but it makes it pretty hard for me.
im gold but when i play solo i am paired with mostly diamond ish players. it makes me not only feel like shit. i dont know if i should try to improve or get worse to rank up...
Things that are making me sick of apex: no arenas, terrible sbmm, terrible rank System, trash Servers, cheaters, aimassist and of course no Solos and the advantages for 3-stacks